The 3rd Ecumenical Council: The Council of Ephesus of 431 A.D.

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

Thanks for all the comments below. I would like to add that the council's promulgation of the Theotokus wasn't new or a novel, for most of the early theologians believed that Jesus was the son of God, and thus Mary was the Mother of God.

[@sabrinastutterssa2184]

Thank you so much for doing this ongoing series on the councils.

[@goeffreylundun8113]

I think it’s going to go a little slower than the New Testament series. He was doing two episodes a day back then so I think within a month he did every book. I think he’s going to do one every three weeks of the church council. This one could go all the way into the summer

[@sapenelopelarsipan2915]

Love it

[@hhsquizbowl]

yes, the NT books were fast. I loved it

[@antonmansten826]

they bore me but they are important

[@penelopebrown4083]

i like learning this stuff.

[@sapenelopelarsipan2915]

I really like the mix of history with the apologetics. I'm learning so much

[@hhsquizbowl]

me too.

[@antonmansten826]

history opens the mind

[@pammedd5931]

i like the dating ones

[@antonmansten826]

I love history. Keep doing history episodes.

[@sabrinastutterssa2184]

I had no idea it centered on Mary

[@goeffreylundun8113]

Yes!

[@dmitirikolyma441]

now you do!

[@caseyl2022]

I never cared about history before I started homeschooling my daughter and now I find it fascinating. I love your vast knowledge of history.

[@rodrigosalazar426]

"to know history, one ceases to be protestant". Cardinal Newman

[@caseyl2022]

@@rodrigosalazar426 I disagree, just cause something was done one way for a long time doesn't make it right.

[@thecopticmonk9423]

it is easy to control the populace if they don't know history. Orwell has that saying from 1984 "those who control the present, control the past, and those who control the past, control the future

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

thank you

[@rodrigosalazar426]

Great episode. I can't wait to see all 21 videos (22 if we include Jerusalem 50AD)

[@goeffreylundun8113]

I think it’s important to note and you know did this on your episodes on Mary, the idea of what we called the Marian Dogmas Was already seen in the early church. You can sit in the writings of the apostolic church fathers. So this council was more about solidifying that belief and announcing it as official church teaching by both the east and west

[@sapenelopelarsipan2915]

The protestants will have you think that none of the early Christians believe this and we just made it up in 431AD. Lol

[@hhsquizbowl]

well said

[@antonmansten826]

you betcha!

[@nataliabancroft8464]

aquinas falsely thought she was not immacuately conceived. he was quickly corrected. even great theologians can be wrong

[@alonzodejalisco1440]

I like how Nestorius got hoodwinked

[@antonmansten826]

back then the heretics did. nowadays they get promoted lol

[@pammedd5931]

bad boy lost!

[@dmitirikolyma441]

he's a sucker!

[@goeffreylundun8113]

Where are the champions now? Where are the champions of orthodoxy when we need them the most? We have too many nestoriuses. Saint Cyril, pray for us

[@sapenelopelarsipan2915]

So true. We are lacking in good strong leader ship right now

[@hhsquizbowl]

vigano. i would say strickland but I can't count the US ones until they openly call out Biden

[@antonmansten826]

none, since we are in apostasy

[@penelopebrown4083]

the church is in a rough spot

[@rodrigosalazar426]

we have none

[@thecopticmonk9423]

I'm new to the channel. Didn't know you are doing the councils. Cool!

[@TeamistressTX]

it is cool!

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

yes, it will take most of year though.

[@goeffreylundun8113]

I really like your range of topics on your channel. And I’m glad you’re avoiding politics because there’s way too many Catholic KZbin channels that cover this ad nauseam

[@hhsquizbowl]

i hate the trad con gloom and doom channels the most

[@antonmansten826]

taylor marshall and return to tradition is all negative stuff. constantly

[@pammedd5931]

taylor marshall rubs me the wrong way

[@nataliabancroft8464]

i do too

[@penelopebrown4083]

francis is doing this.....francis is doing that....! it gets annoying.

[@pammedd5931]

I love seeing Rome exerting more authority over these councils. you see the progression from Nicaea to Trent. wow!

[@rodrigosalazar426]

you do

[@maxhelvetius544]

If the protestants really understood the church teaching on mary and not want they want to believe, they would understand her importance

[@pammedd5931]

i agree

[@rodrigosalazar426]

first you believe theotokos and then the others make sense

[@hhsquizbowl]

#stmaryprayforus

[@alonzodejalisco1440]

amen!

[@antonmansten826]

amen!

[@pammedd5931]

who can say no to that?

[@nataliabancroft8464]

we need it now more than ever

[@penelopebrown4083]

amen!

[@hhsquizbowl]

#churchhistoryrules

[@alonzodejalisco1440]

it's boring but important

[@antonmansten826]

yes

[@rodrigosalazar426]

it does!

[@nataliabancroft8464]

how many councils are there? I know vatican 2 was the last

[@thecopticmonk9423]

none in the 20th century should be counted

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

21

[@antonmansten826]

Plus I think it is important FOR ALL CHRISTIANS to know church history. so many protestants think their mega church was the beginning of the christianity. No link to the past at all. All they need is their bible and uptempo music. No idea as to who gave them the bible or the contribution of the one holy apostolic catholic faith did to give them the bible, but who cares! LOL

[@penelopebrown4083]

amen

[@paul_321]

Beautiful conclusion 🙏 Mother Mary pray for us

[@penelopebrown4083]

I'm curious to know when these ecumenical councils become more Western bishop-centric. Maybe Florence? It seems all the early ones, the 7 or 8 that the orthhodox agree with us on, are very eastern specific. Makes sense since the capital was over there and western europe during this time was in barbarian shambles

[@thecopticmonk9423]

the longer it goes, the west gets stronger and therefore more western bishops

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

all yes. you will see a movement West later for sure

[@rosekobusinge4162]

I think I like Nestorius' refusal of the title the rest had given Mother Mary "God-bearer" with those profoundings of how it happened.He considered that Virgin Mary is not God bearer but a Mother considering what happened and said Jesus is both Divine and Human!! That's why I think most Protestants consider her not a Mother of God but like an errand girl fulfilling God's purpose. Bravo to this conflict that led to this Council. Thanks for tapping the roots of our faith.👌

[@TeamistressTX]

many don't even think about her. It's sad

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

great insight, rose

[@penelopebrown4083]

I love when you wear your cardigans. I just want to snuggle up with you and feel it against my skin🥰

[@TeamistressTX]

I do like them too

[@alyssacalderon2150]

I think watching all 21 ecumenical videos in order would be a great playlist since you will see the evolution of church theology, the magisterium at work, and papal supremacy waxing

[@TeamistressTX]

it would be fun

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

like binge watching a TV show. LOL

[@nataliabancroft8464]

I was surprised she wasn't always thought to be god bearer. I guess she was always thought that way. Nestorius was wrong and the majority of bishiops shot him down

[@penelopebrown4083]

how can he be christ the anointed one and not be the son of god?

[@rodrigosalazar426]

he was surely surprised

[@hhsquizbowl]

#catholicismischristianity

[@alonzodejalisco1440]

the authentic one

[@antonmansten826]

one and only

[@nataliabancroft8464]

the bonafide church

[@penelopebrown4083]

people who beleive otherwise are idiots

[@alonzodejalisco1440]

Is it really hard to be so much of a church nerd, greg? LOL

[@antonmansten826]

he once said he knows all the british monarchs in english history in order lol

[@pammedd5931]

i like nerdy greg

[@mariacelesteacosta1500]

baby, space the ecumenical councils out, let's say once every 2 weeks. LOL

[@pammedd5931]

don't be a hater lol

[@nataliabancroft8464]

lol, he won't choose you now!

[@penelopebrown4083]

shut your mouth! LOL

[@rodrigosalazar426]

I agree. let's not run through all of them

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

I agree. I was doing 2x a day eps in past so NT series rolled off faster. this one will be slower

[@maxhelvetius544]

the hypostatic union is truly one of those mysterious that is hard to understand. I defer to the church on this one. LOL

[@pammedd5931]

I don't get it

[@penelopebrown4083]

hard stuff

[@thecopticmonk9423]

I don't get it

[@TeamistressTX]

deep mystery

[@pammedd5931]

Hey baby. you looking good today. You are naturally handsome.

[@nataliabancroft8464]

he's a cutie

[@penelopebrown4083]

back off from "my man!"

[@thecopticmonk9423]

this is the flirt brigade

[@TeamistressTX]

Give the Virgin Mary the due veneration she deserves! The early church believed in her exceptional "full of grace" status. they just needed a council to rubber stamp what the majority church believed. Now it is dogmatic

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

amen!

[@AdithiaKusno]

As a subdeacon in Byzantine Catholic who grew up in a Dutch Calvinist tradition in my opinion it's important to address Marian Christology at Ephesus. Nestorian debate was triggered when Princess Pulcheria consecrated a church dedicated to Theotokos in Constantinople. She was inspired after her pilgrimage to Theotokos' shrine at Ephesus. Veneration of Mary as Theotokos is core and center in this debate not as mere periphery. First anathema at Ephesus was affirming veneration of Mary as Theotokos. St Cyril preached seven Marian homilies at the Council. He then closed the Council with an Akathist to Theotokos. The Council of Ephesus dogmatize veneration of Mary as Theotokos.

[@SknappCFA]

Was it just a coincidence that there was an enormous temple devoted to Artemis, a life-giving female deity, in Ephesus at the time? Theotokos seems like an accommodation as much as anything else.

[@a.d1287]

Hi, why does council of ephesus canon 8 say this: Canon 8 condemned interference by the Bishop of Antioch in affairs of the Church in Cyprus and decreed generally, that no bishop was to "assume control of any province which has not heretofore, from the very beginning, been under his own hand or that of his predecessors […] lest the Canons of the Fathers be transgressed".[2] seems like n arguement against the papacy

[@rosekobusinge4162]

#dmitirikolyma?????

[@5MinuteCatholicApologetics]

what happened?