The 4 Affordable for High Horology

Here are 9 relatively affordable watches from 4 affordable brands if you're thinking of moving into High Horology.

[@ivansmith4242]

The jlc reverso probably the first purpose built sports watch. Still a classic. Perfect Art Deco flourishes without being overwrought and amateurish. Nice pics like that you also included a German watch and weren’t biased towards the Swiss.

[@watchartsci]

Good affordable watches don't have borders... "Watch Collectors Without Borders"... sounds better than a bunch a watch vultures. Take care and be safe, Bill😷

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Thanks, Bill. I learn a lot from your videos.

[@watchartsci]

As always Sushi Man! My pleasure. Kindest regards, Bill

[@jeffreyblue627]

Another master class in horology. Just ordered a condition zero blue dial GP Laureato from a reputable dealer I know in Hong Kong. Should have it within the week. Love the Genta lines. Yeah, it might be something of a homage to the Royal Oak and other Genta designed classics but I don’t care because I just like it and I dont need an AP on my wrist to feel secure in my own skin. I just love the integrated bracelet look and I love a textured dial. Last year I bought a Tudor North Flag and with the Laureato I’ll have two watches I really like for a fraction of what a decent AP Royal Oak would cost. I think you’re saving me loads of money but my wife disagrees..... but that’s another story altogether. Thanks again Bill!

[@watchartsci]

I fear I may be on several wives' Enemies Lists ... including my own! Enjoy your wonderful watches! Cheers, Bill

[@blueshirtbuddah1665]

Another great review Bill. That Parmagiani Tonda has really peaked my interest. I’m going to have to keep that one on my radar. As for JLC, I am really loving my Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds. For me it is like a little Ferrari on my wrist. Sleek,stylish and has a great engine. Thanks for introducing us to these entry level high horology pieces.

[@watchartsci]

Your JLC Bruce is a sweet one indeed. The thins are both great looking formal watches and a testimony at some first rate horology. Cheers, Bill

[@h111551]

Dear Bill, You and the estimable Arthur Leyenberger both directed me to Parmigiani. I have a Transforma chronograph in stainless steel with a complex galvanized dial and a Kalpa Grande in 18k gold, both with exhibition backs, and love them. The Vaucher movements are exquisitely finished with amazing decoration. More importantly Peter Speake-Marin who both worked at Vaucher and then became a customer of Vaucher when he developed his own watch line notes that the Vaucher movement thoughtfully uses some ceramic parts so that the prospect of damage arising from delayed maintenance is minimized. The ceramic parts avoid metal upon metal damage is service is deferred or ignored. In answer to the question raised by your video of yesterday, this thoughtful approach to the carelessness of watch owners is a feature I greatly appreciate. Other high horology at a discount options include H. Moser & Cie Venturer Small Seconds manual wind watches in either rose gold or white gold which have a retail price of $19000 +/- trend down as low as $8200 +/- new. The availability of some of these large discounts may not be a forever thing as some of the brands gain better control and discipline over their distribution streams or the superiority of the offerings of these brands becomes more widely acknowledged and better known in the watch community at large. While mainstream Bovet watches (not the sport line) never dipped to an under $8,000 level, they did trend down to the under $15,000 level. Bovet‘ s showing in the Swiss awards competition for its extraordinary complications is likely going to elevate the brand among the watch community and help firm up the Bovet pricing structure. It is interesting to note that Parmigiani Fleurier purchased the rights to the intellectual property rights and Bovet trademark which had last been used by Favre-Leuba in 1950 after F-L acquired the Bovet assets in 1948 from Albert and Jean Bovet, significant watchmakers and patented watch technology developers. That Michel Parmigiani thought enough of the Bovet provenance to buy these rights which were held only from 1989 to 1990 says volumes Bovet’s history. Pascal Raffy was the ultimate purchaser of these Bovet rights in 2001. The entire history of just Bovet reflects that wheeling and dealing in the watch industry is not a new phenomena. Leuba family members had owned Bovet from 1901 through 1918. None of this has seemingly has anything directly to do with the topic at hand, great horological buys at a discount, but it really does. New owners come in to control of a manufacturer entity or a distributor entity or the entities experience financial stress. Inventory is dumped into the marketplace on a discount basis and this depresses prices for a certain period of time. While I do not know the details of why Parmigiani, Moser and Bovet became so relatively affordable, the investment group that took control of Breitling just completed a monumental dump of Breitling inventory. While Breitling is not a high horology brand, this pattern of dumping inventory and tanking prices is likely entrenched in watch brand history even among some of the high horology brands. The take away from your video is as follows: if one is interested in high horology, it is much more accessible than one might think. The prices of some high horology watch brands like Parmigiani and Moser get knocked down and as a consequence provide cost effective entry to high horology accordingly, But as your video clearly points out, entry to high horology is also provided from nondistressed watch brands like Jaeger Le Coultre who offer watches of serious technical merit and finishing like the Polaris or certain of the Reversos at very affordable price points.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Howard, there's something in the water in Fleurier ... in addition to Bovet and Parmigiani ... Kari Voutilainen has his shop there too, and he once worked as a restorer at Parmigiani. Also part of Chopard Manufacture is in Fleurier- where they produce the in-house L.U.C movements. Keeping my finger off the H. Moser and Parmigiani trigger has not been easy...other than the ones I have. Their prices are low because they're not popular among the general watch-collectors / watch-buying citizenry. That's good for real collectors. Cheers, Bill

[@rezasoheil]

Perfect, I liked all of your choices, great video for the Social distancing time. Cheers

[@watchartsci]

Thanks Reza ... as long as there's no social distancing from my watches ... everything is ok! Cheers, Bill

[@losfont5674]

The Glashutte Pano is absolutely stunning in blue. First time seeing it. Adding this one to my want list. Already looking at it in Chrono24 what a great value. The Reverso is also a must have watch. I really like the red dial and band they released last year. I will be adding a high horology watch in a few months. The hunt and deciding which one is the most enjoyable part of purchasing a watch. Thanks again for another great video Bill.

[@watchartsci]

The pleasure is all mine Los Font! Good hunting! Take care and stay safe, Bill😷

[@24KArabiaFelix]

I think you should become a brand ambassador for PF from watching your videos i have acquired 7 PF, what an amazing deals on real high horology. GIO is another amazing brand that is undervalued, I was able to pick up a Seventies chronograph and i really love it. JLC master class sector dial was another beauty that I was able to pick up, the JLC is so light and just fits on my wrist and looks better than a PP that i have that look similar.

[@watchartsci]

Me an ambassador? - you should ArabiaFelix with seven Parmigiani Fleurier watches! Wow! Which ones did get? Kindest regards, Bill

[@24KArabiaFelix]

@@watchartsci Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpagraphe Palladium Chrono, Parmigiani Fleurier Toric Platinum Chronograph, Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda Hemispheres, Parmigiani Fleurier Pershing 005 , Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa XL, PF Ionica white gold and a Parmigiani Fleurier PF000340

[@watchartsci]

Holy cow!! That's an outstanding collection! I have the Tonda Hémisphères and the Kalpa Grande XL ... that's (...for now...), but you've got a huge and wonderful collection! We both need a Kalpa Hebdo! Cheers, Bill

[@Michae52]

I need to save up my pennies. I only have three. @@24KArabiaFelix

[@24KArabiaFelix]

@@Michae52 I was able to pick them all up for between 70% to 80% off brand new from a dealer who was closing down here, that was the other reason i got so many

[@emanuelestuder2885]

That’s an amazing haute orologerie entry level selection. Thanks Bill.

[@watchartsci]

Emanuele, thanks man! Kindest regards, Bill

[@AbdulRWatches]

Hi Bill, great watches, after your recommendation of the hebdomadaire, i can't find one with the discounted prices as before :) . I especially like the Glashütte Original and the JLC. I think also as great choices it would be VC Overseas especially the Gen. 1, also Piaget and Breguet entry level models are heavely discounted in the grey market. If i had my choice between on of these watches i would definitely choose the GO Panoreseve or Parmagiani Metrographe. Have a great Sunday. Best, Abdul

[@watchartsci]

Hi Abdul, yes! I noticed that too. The Hebdomadaires not only have gained in price, their numbers have dropped. Maybe Clyde got the last best deal on one! Both the GO Panoreseve and Parmagiani Metrographe are great buys. The Parmagiani Metrographes are especially tempting because the brand new ones in Condition 0 are a steal! Good hunting! Bill

[@crappyluxurypdx]

Great choices.

[@watchartsci]

Thanks CWCW...Cheers, bill

[@timweatherill3738]

I always get enthused by that Jaeger Lecoultre Master Control Date. It's just ...Cool. Thanks for another interesting video, Bill!

[@watchartsci]

Hey Tim! That's a world-beater entry level Haute Horlogerie watch; cool and relatively affordable. Cheers, Bill

[@nssomething8370]

The other cool thing about the MCD with the 899 movement is that the caliber has been "autotractorized", i.e. modernized with unidirectional winding, ceramic bearings, laser welded hair spring, free sprung balance, etc. It's a modern technologically advanced movement that also stands on the heritage of the 889 movements and the other similar JLC calibers that made their way into high end watches form VC, AP, etc.

[@johnnychung4020]

Thank you Bill for another great video. I really admire that GO pano, my fav would be the panolunar. No idea, why they are not winning any awards. Btw, that Parmigiani looks interesting, time for more reading.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Johnny, thanks man! That PanoLunar is a nice watch, but in a general choice between Parmigiani and GO; I'd go with a Parmigiani that had been discounted. Take care, Bill

[@Alexander-hk6mb]

Hy Bill, great list! I would ad the Eterna Madison Spherodrive with inhouse calibre you can buy new for under 2k!

[@watchartsci]

Hi Alexander, that would be a great addition for Strong Horology, but these 4 are for High Horology; albeit the low end of high horology. However, do like that watch; especially their 8-day version....which is a tad more than 2k. Kindest regards, Bill

[@DEXVD]

Great content. One thing maybe you could consider discussing in the future is more classically sized dress watches. As a guy with a ~6.25" wrist, I am regularly disappointed by the new dress watch releases at 40-41mm and feel much more comfortable with the sizing of my vintage dress watches at 33-35mm. When I look around I don't see many options for these smaller diameter thin dress watches produced today, while there are lots of great options if you go back ~10 or more years, like the Patek 3919 with its 33mm case or JLC Master Ultra thin manual with its 34mm case, outside of a few exceptions like the 35mm Lange Saxonia (I would consider the medium or classic sized reversos to be similar in proportion). It seems that once classic dress watch size of 33-35mm with 8mm or thinner case is pretty much dead unless you are okay with a watch clearly made for women like the diamond bezeled Piaget Alitplanos at 34mm. If you felt like discussing this or talking about some currently produced watches that you think suit this classic dress watch size, I would be very interested. For me a 36mm watch makes more sense for something like a datejust or day date not something in a dress watch style.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Dexvd, that's a good point. I'll try and add more of the smaller sizes ... or as you put it "classically sized dress watches. I have two myself, a Patek Philippe Calatrava (32mm) and a Vacheron Constantin 1974-v.2. Cheers, Bill

[@apars78]

Good picks Bill. I agree with all the picks -1, ie. the JLC master sector dial; may be its a personal thing but when I had a look at the watch in person, for some reason it didn't click, but that just me.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Apar, if you're going to spend that much money, you should look at the watch in person. If it doesn't click; it doesn't click. Take care, Bill

[@gearyhurst1972]

WatchArtSci The flat crystal doesn’t belong on it, the other two in the series are domed.

[@richarda9961]

Great video bill!

[@watchartsci]

Hey Richard, thanks man! Cheers, Bill

[@algorithm007ify]

Bill, great choices...I am biased though, being a Parmigiani fan. GP, GO, and JLC are also great buys

[@watchartsci]

Hi WA, thanks man! I was just looking at the precision with which the numbers were applied to the dial on my Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda Hémisphères ... even the smallest numbering and lettering on top of a circular guillochè are precisely applied. Cheers, Bill

[@nssomething8370]

It's like the entire universe is telling me to get a Tonda 1950. The Tonda 1950 Lune and Meteorite dials are also very nice.

[@watchartsci]

This is the Universe speaking! @@nssomething8370 Tonda 1950 + your wrist! Good... (...the Lune or Metroite isn't bad either...) Cheers, The Universe.

[@algorithm007ify]

NSsomething you cannot fight fate...

[@fkurcik]

Those Glashutte pieces are the nicest. I guess that top 3/4 plate covering almost whole movement on the PanoReserve got to be some German specialty.

[@watchartsci]

Hey Frantisek, you're right! The 3/4 plate was originally used by Lange (...pretty sure) for production purposes. By leaving the balance and escapement open, the watches were more efficiently made, but it turned out that they also were more visible for the owner and watch repairman to see and/or adjust. Cheers, Bill

[@clyde2801]

Once again doing the Lord's work, Bill!

[@watchartsci]

Clyde! It looks like you may have got one of the last great buys on the Parmigiani Fleurier Hebdomadaire-at least of the model you have. I've seen some decent buys on an earlier version, but the one you have as 1) begin to disappear and 2) go up in price. Take care, Bill

[@clyde2801]

@@watchartsci You want me to check in with my buddy to see if the local still has its twin?

[@watchartsci]

Thanks Clyde, but not right now. I've got too many irons in the fire as it is. With two new watches (Lang & Heyne and Christiaan van der Klaauw) I'm pretty tapped out. Besides I'm still thinking about the Cellini Rolex Prince and the Habring2 Doppel Felix. Cheers, Bill

[@tonyng6602]

The Polaris Sector Dial is one of my 'targeted' catches as are the Glashuttes.

[@watchartsci]

The Polaris Sectory Dial & GOs have many great buys for excellent watches! Good hunting! Bill

[@Youcantleavethisempty01]

That Master Control is just the bees knees. As I always say though... "If only it came in a 35-36mm!"

[@watchartsci]

Hi Empty, you sometimes have to look to some earlier versions for the smaller sizes. Here's one I found for you. www.prestigetime.com/preowned/Jaeger-LeCoultre-Master-Ultra-Thin-Manual-34mm-1458404_145.8.79.s-43248?gclid=Cj0KCQiAheXiBRD-ARIsAODSpWOjKtdhq6oeA-saZ6Chtk9kiyqi_LvPorSXAZp7_fP0UcWq2Mzttv8aAmdlEALw_wcB Good hunting, Bill

[@zzeuss87]

Up early on Superbowl Sunday. Will they get #6 tonight? Might need a nap before game time. PF out of this group would be my choice, but also like JLC at their pricing. Good entry level pieces they have, although I don't view them as true haute horlogerie. Really good uploads you have lately; much appreciated. Go Pats!

[@watchartsci]

Hey Zzeuss, staying busy today for tonight's game too! Time flies when I'm busy. This is a strange Super Bowl-two teams that have major haters. The Saints will never get over that bad call! (Nor should they! Maybe some good rule changes will come out of it.) Everyone except the Pats fans hate the Patriots because they keep winning Super Bowls with an aging QB. Well, for us Pats fans, we'll just ride the wave as long as it lasts-they seem to have forgotten the 49ers of the 80s with the Joe Montana and Steve Young eras back-to-back and the Steelers dynasty of yore..not to mention the Cowboys under Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman!) So just for the first two decades of the 21st Century...it's the Pats! Cheers, Bill

[@zzeuss87]

@@watchartsci Today's game is played differently than the one played by the dynasties of old. High scores abound now and I think it will continue in the future. With the concern of players' safety and the CTE risk that is now in the minds of the league, we will see a more restricted defense. I expect more rule changes in the future towards that end. Another rule change is needed so teams can challenge calls, and non calls by the officials. The NO LA game was decided by the refs. That has happened too often lately. It will be interesting to see how the sport evolves, but I fear it will eventually become something more akin to flag football. I hope not.

[@watchartsci]

I hate to see professional athletes end a career because of concussions and other body-destroying injuries. Helmet improvements should help. Interestingly, after working with a biologist-researcher, shortly before I retired, we found that most high school concussions were caused in girls soccer games. I used to surf, and I guess my head is harder than the rocks I got slammed into. Cheers, Bill

[@zzeuss87]

@@watchartsci 3-3 with less than 3 min in the 3rd. I will eat my claim of high scores. This is Bill B working his magic.

[@watchartsci]

All of the pundits figured "Highest scoring SB ever!" They got the opposite and another Pats win! Cheers, Bill

[@KarimDeLakarim]

Interesting what you can get for the money .

[@watchartsci]

Indeed it is Popenbenadict Rock! Cheers, Bill

[@LeaFrydman]

Can you do a video on vintage watches maybe starting with a brand like Hamilton or Elgin thanks

[@watchartsci]

Hi Lea, I have a few vintage watches, but most of my watches are 21st Century. I think that you'll find other watch channels do a much better job than I on that topic. However, I've done some on deep historical background. See for example, kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGe7YayratyHm9U ... one of the most important ones I've done about origins of watchmaking in Switzerland. Kindest regards, Bill

[@gilbertombp]

Bill, what do you think of Parmigiani's Toric collection?

[@watchartsci]

Gilberto, the Torics are classic! Love 'em. Bill

[@antg.3846]

Would you put Grand Seiko in this category Bill?

[@watchartsci]

Hi Ant G. You could include GS, but I didn't consider them that affordable. I may have been mistaken. Thanks, Bill

[@washingtonfootballfanwgil8392]

Hey Bill, I have a question; if my collection was only a Glasshutte Pano, a Parmigiani Tonda 1950, a JLC Master Control, and a GP Laureato, I would be "near" or actually "high" horology collection? For me, it doesn't matter because I love each of your choices. Just wondering how a collection like that would be perceived. BTW, I am here in Atlanta for the game. Since I have no dog in this fight, the thought has crossed my mind to sell my tickets to help finance an F.P. Journe Souveraine. I don't own expensive pieces so I'm hesitant to sink that much into one piece. Perhaps a JLC 8 day Reverso and a Habring2 would make better use of money. If you were here, I'd give you a deal in exchange for your advice! The partys here are crazy! Redskins fans are enjoying ourselves because we know we won't be here as a team for years to come. #FireBruceAllen

[@watchartsci]

Hey Red! What a quandary ... if you can get $20k for your Super Bowl Tickets ... that means you'd have to watch the game on TV like the rest of the country...easy one for me...seeing the Patriots in the SB is pretty routine for New Englanders...(cruel to say to a Redskins fan...I know) If I had $20k right now, I'd probably blow it on a Habring2 Doppel Felix and Cellini Rolex Prince with enough left over for a pre-owned Parmigiani Hebdomadaire ... but only if I didn't a FP Journe Chronomètre Souvrain already. (I'd trade my platinum CS for a stainless steel F.P.Journe Chronometre Holland & Holland, though ... even without the power reserve indicator.) Enjoy the parties! Cheers, Bill

[@cnaarndt]

Hi Bill, Great video since I am contemplating my first High Horology watch and you validated my decision to go with a JLC Reverso, and in my case a lightly used Grand Reverso 976. I have big hands and 19.2 cm wrists and while the Classic Large Small Seconds was originally my first choice, the Grand 976 at 30 x 48 mm is near perfect, plus I love the display case back. I'm seeing them in the $5K to $5.5K range and was wondering if this was a fair price, or should I try to get one for sub $5K, after all they are about 7 years old. It appears that this is a rather rare and sought after watch? BTW, I also have a Rolex GMT 16750 that I bought new in 1983 (yes I'm older too) and a Speedmaster Pro Moon, so this watch would give me in my opinion a near perfect luxury three watch collection. Let me know what you think.

[@watchartsci]

Hi Curtis given your wrist size, and your budget, I would get a Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa Grande XL instead of the JLC Grand 976. There's nothing wrong with the JLC, and I have great respect for both JLC and Reverso. (I got my wife one, and it's been an excellent watch.) However, neither of your current watches really reflect much about the watchmaker. The Kalpa was designed and formed by Michel Parmigiani and has a presence that is unique, functional and striking without being ostentatious. (And Michel is still alive & kicking!) The interesting thing about the Parmigiani Fleurier watches is that they often drop like a rock initially; but once the price drop has occurred; they don't drop any more-some have been climbing upwards. So if you got a $5k Kalpa, you could sell it for $5k-now that's an initial drop between $5-$8k from the original price; so you end up with a $10-15k watch for $5k. Anyway, I do like the Grand 976, but in looking at the ones for sale in your price range, they looked a bit stressed. On the other hand, I found some Kalpas for sale that had the 22k gold rotor with the barley corn guillochè pattern-( others had the tungsten rotor). Here are a couple of links: www.chrono24.com/search/index.htm?caseMaterials=4&dosearch=true&gender=1401&manufacturerIds=193&maxAgeInDays=0&models=2245&movementTypes=1&movementTypes=2&pageSize=60&priceFrom=0&priceTo=-1&redirectToSearchIndex=true&sortorder=1 www.therealreal.com/products/watches/strap/parmigiani-fleurier-kalpa-watch?sid=pxogmz&Google&cvosrc=cse.google.google&cvo_crid=149136451394&gclid=CjwKCAjw5pPnBRBJEiwAULZKvnfoDSOFUvPmIwSvv6vN_FNZ0oVzEHPok7F_b0FL9Nd2XVTvtftbiRoCSwUQAvD_BwE www.montredo.com/en/parmigiani/ Good hunting, and remember, get what you want! Cheers, Bill

[@cnaarndt]

@@watchartsci Bill... Awesome! Thanks for the super quick response and the advice. I'll let you know what I decide. More to follow...

[@cnaarndt]

Bill, a little about me... Pro pilot for 42+ years USMC, corporate and airlines, tool/aviation watch collector (I love GMTs, 15 watch collection). With regard to dress watches, I love rectangular. My Father had a Longines gold rectangular that my Mother gave him in 1954. I had an inexpensive gold tone Seiko rectangular for 25+ years until in was stolen in Jan. My current is an Oris Rectangular Complication, anniversary present from my wife. I've liked Oris since 1983, and love this large D/D, moon phase, GMT watch. Three grail watch wish list, Breguet Type XXI, Blancpain Fifty and PP Gondolo, this exact watch at JS... www.jomashop.com/patek-philippe-watch-5124g-001.html I believe that we have somewhat similar tastes since I know you like this watch too. I believe that with time a patience this watch can be had pre-owned for half of the new retail price! Anyway, thanks for the links to the Parmigiani Fleurier Kalpa Grande XL. Not a watch I was familiar with, but a stunningly beautiful design (BTW, I'm a trained Industrial Designer by education). I will be doing more research on this watch. I've purchased four watches from JS and have been very pleased. Now looking a Chrono24 as the best venue for a used pre-owned timepiece. Oh, and my favorite money is no option watch... A. Lange & Sohne 1815 Annual Calendar. Big Sigh! Cheers, Curt

[@watchartsci]

Hi Curtis, for rectangular watches, I can recommend the H. Moser et Cie, Henry Double Hairspring ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3rSeYywidZjnK8 )-they're hard to find, but if you can (and the price is right), you'll have an amazing watch. Here's the video I did on Parmigiani Fleurier-kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHy1iX1nqLmipKc . They have great prices and I have a hard time keeping my finger off the trigger...even though I own two. In the late 80s & early 90s I used to own a Cessna Cardinal, flying out of Palomar, just south of Camp Pendleton ... where our avionics would act up. I flew with a group called, 'Liga: The Flying Doctors" and one of the pilots was a former Marine aviator who had flown everything from Corsairs to Phantoms ... great guy and lots of fun in a grumpy way! We had clinics in Sinaloa and the drug lords of that region left us alone because of our clinics, but the flights into that region were always interesting...even a little exciting at times. (Also flew with the 'Flying Samaritans' in Baja...where we had clinics as well.) Some of the pilots were professional-one flew for FedEx, and when we returned to the US, the eagle-eyed inspectors always hassled him for the number of cross-border flights he had! I finally had to give it up when I moved from San Diego to El Paso, Tx. Had my IFR rating and flying IFR was my favorite kind ... except in Mexico where the Nav aids were iffy ... but I used my backup IFR (I follow rivers!). Cheers, Bill

[@cnaarndt]

@@watchartsci Thanks again Bill, the research is half the fun.

[@cedarcanoe]

5:07 chronometers?

[@watchartsci]

Hi Erik, I am forever confusing 'chronometer' and 'chronograph...' I say one and mean the other. Thanks, ... and you're right. Cheers, Bill

[@Michae52]

All three of my Parmi,s keep better time than my Sub

[@watchartsci]

Hey Michael, I like the Parmigiani showing in your icon too! Cheers, Bill

[@algorithm007ify]

Do not tell Don or Archie that..😋

[@Michae52]

Don Haines and AC3 would not know a good watch if it bit them ib their ass. And Craig Ship needs to learn what a real stunner is. @@algorithm007ify

[@algorithm007ify]

@@Michae52 Agreed!

[@johngentile6814]

Bill I guess I am a stickler for proper pronunciation Laureto is pronounced: lore-ee-ott-o

[@watchartsci]

Thanks, John. I need all the help I can get and having it sounded out for me helps. Kindest regards, Bill

[@kevinmorrice]

you seem to misunderstand the word affordable, thousands of dollars is not affordable, 500 dollars is affordable

[@watchartsci]

Mr&Mrs Morrice, one could say that $500 isn't very affordable. What you need to understand is "relative" and "relatively'- it means in relationship to other watches or in relation to initial asking price. Take care, Bill