The 4 Levels of Psychedelic Geometry (Ft.

[@josikinz]

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[@woodandwandco]

I love your presentation, and it is in my opinion the most accurate representation I have ever seen presented on the general subject of psychedelic visuals. I think there are a couple of points worth looking into further, and these are the geometric scale of 'sharp and defined' geometry to 'fluid and undefined' geometry, as well as the presence of noise or geometric oversaturation at higher doses where it is impossible to perceive forms of any kind. The first notion I find extremely significant because we do not know if these patterns are innate or learned patterns. Meaning, if a human being does not learn mathematics, does not live in civilization, and has never seen an object with a definite form like a sphere or triangle, then is it possible that the 'sharp and defined' aspects of psychedelic perception would be missing, and instead they would only perceive the 'fluid and undefined' geometry, or are such networks innate? What about such perceptions in other animals? Do other brains produce such phenomena? As for the second point, beyond the structural and fluid dynamics, we must account for the significance of randomness in the experience at high doses. It has been expressed that at very high doses of 5-MEO DMT the geometry dissolves into a mess, similar to white noise. Perhaps this implies a limit to our perceptual faculties as relates to our biology and chemistry, and perhaps complex geometry is the final frontier as regards human knowledge. On the other hand, perhaps it is an indication of a wall that we have yet to develop the capabilities to break through. Just a couple of thoughts! Thank you for the amazing content!

[@plasmak2273]

Tried Terrance McKennas guide to Cannabis I thought I was dieing I thought I hit my head and even was hallucinating, kundalini saved me

[@Xgjigzigzyixiy]

Totally useless , this is barely relevant. You don’t even know what’s generating this geometry 📐

[@Whatever.Forever94]

@@Xgjigzigzyixiywhere’s your video at friendo? How about instead of criticizing you could contribute your thoughts and opinions to the discussion so we can all learn together? Psychedelics should be about communal understanding and growth as a whole. Could you perhaps elaborate more on the things you think were lacking from this video that you claim make it “useless”? I’m genuinely curious and not trying to be an arse lol

[@4rillymanilly]

​@@Xgjigzigzyixiyi think its the drugs affect on the brain that creates the geomitry mate😂

[@jamescolvin575]

I'm 65. Twice in my experience I hit level 4 for a brief time on two separate occasions. It was exhilarating and scary but so beautiful. I was in another dimension briefly.

[@mixreality8]

this is the most accurate psych visuals replication ive seen. it gave me chills. well done!

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

Absolutely what I felt woow soo accurate

[@briandowers851]

They are so good. Almost like 5D remembering.

[@johnnylong6289]

Do you also suffer from aphantasia my friend? My fellow redditor?

[@Moonshine449]

That beginning animation with the twisting tree looks exactly like what I saw one time when I closed my eyes. Trippy asf

[@dot_t]

​@@Moonshine449check out Loka

[@emilykins]

We worked so hard on this! The promise of psychedelics leading us to the science of how our brains work is so inspiring to me. I hope that came across in the video!

[@ohethean8475]

I am so glad I watched this, I have always been extremely fascinated by hallucinations but especially psychedelic ones. You guys just shined a light on...and then spoke in depth about a topic I haven't been able to even describe to another person

[@emilykins]

​@@ohethean8475Thank you so much! Comments like this really mean a ton

[@amerajanovic4841]

Yes Emily! I left another comment about my amazement by the video, but your excitement particularly for how psychedelics research can help us discover how our brains work shines through and through. It also made me excited! I can see how videos like this may inspire teenagers to get into neuroscience and science in general! Looking forward to reading more from you and watching your content :)

[@tremolo2109]

​@@amerajanovic4841This just warms my heart, thank you so much! I care about these things immensely. Much love!

[@TheAlkhemiaStudio]

Congratulations on making such an excellent video!!

[@eggstatus5824]

This marks the point where Josie threw a curveball at us and significantly improved production quality

[@josikinz]

the secret was mostly just giving creative input while other people made the video

[@nuonflower]

Collaboration is beautiful 🩵

[@DaisyChaine]

industry plant …

[@eggstatus5824]

@@nuonflower Tis true

[@ultragd69]

I haven't watched it yet, the other videos are already amazing I can only imagine the quality of this

[@FigmentariumAnimation]

You are seriously moving the psychedelic community so far forward with your work

[@dionysusyphus]

💯

[@Waltyworld]

Yep

[@Yesntss]

Yeah very cool research

[@anonemouse1470]

no offense but the work is derivative of work thats actually been done, most people just lack the education to understand, hence the video i imagine

[@MegaBrokenstar]

@@anonemouse1470putting information in a form understandable to the layperson for the first time might as well be new discovery as far as societal advancement is concerned.

[@tantzer6113]

15:03 “… study of geometry as a result of the physical structure of the neurons … which may not interest all of you.” I’m very interested and would love a dedicated video on this topic, and will check out the links, too. And it’s good if the discussion delves into the mathematical or biological intricacies. Not every video has to be accessible to everyone.

[@emilykins]

They had to restrain me from talking about it more, it wasn't right for this video XD But yes, it would be very cool to make a little documentary about it sometime

[@duckpk10]

Me too

[@jacobbarnes9691]

@@emilykinsplease! This is a fascinating topic

[@Tomogeny]

I'm also interested. A previous study showed hyperconnectivity in the brain during LSD usage, so it is a very natural idea that the visual cortex would link to areas that don't get visual input so that activity in other areas leads to activation of the occipital lobe. I'm particularly interested in the temporal domain. I wonder if the frequency with which the visuals move/flicker are slow or are sychronized with larger scale brain activity, such as the 40hz of gamma waves (conscious, awake activity) in the EEG. I do really struggle to think about how patterns get so complicated and how e.g. activity of a bunch of neurons in the frontal cortex would translate to crazy fractals. Maybe interconnectivity between areas that already represent elemental shapes (e.g., the cluster of neurons that lights up when seeing a triangle and therefore encode a triangle) with associative areas leads to more complex shapes simply because the elemental shape areas get 'overdriven'. A different idea would be that whatever leads to awareness in the visual cortex is extended to other areas of the brain. We know there's a lot of unconscious processing going on even in the cortex (parietal cortex, cingulate gyrus, entorhinal cortex etc.) and we still have no idea how some brain activity is translated into a conscious experience and some activity isn't. Maybe some quality of neuronal processing is altered so that the direct link between the occipital lobe and conscious awareness is established in other areas. This would suggest that consciousness does not require a central coordinator (I guess the precuneus is considered a candidate). My guess would be that psychedelics have an interaction with microtubules through their aromatic molecular structure and that the whole serotonergic thing is more just a coincidence, since most ligands of the HT2a receptor have an aromatic structure. That would suggest its not the effect of serotonin that causes the psychedelic experience and that it is something more elementary within the neurons. Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff came up with such an idea - that microtubules create a stable microenvironment that allows for quantum states to be coherent in a wet and warm biological environment and that microtubules have rapid access throughout the brain to integrate information (near)instantly without suffering the delay of neurons. Neurons have the issue of being a temporal mess, i.e., activity in one area only leads to a consequence in another area many milliseconds later yet our conscious experience integrates all that activity into a single moment of experience. Could be that there just is considerable latency between sensory domains to become conscious, but we can't measure it if we don't get consciousness in the first place. I took a minor in quantum physics a bunch of years back to be able to wrap my head around quantum ideas of consciousness, but I really didn't manage, so all these ideas will remain unfounded biological ramblings. Hope we can do some nice fMRI studies though and diffusion tractography in chronic psychedelic users to figure the first steps of how psychedelics may work out. Sorry for the difficult lingo. If anyone is interested in these ramblings and isn't a neuroscientist, chatGPT can probably translate :) (I don't work in psychedelic neuroscience FYI so I don't actually know shit about this topic)

[@goose300183]

that's something I've also pondered over - with a more basic question - why geometry at all? Why would things be symmetrical and colouful? It's very interesting!

[@Senki207]

Honestly you're like the Bob Ross of psychedelics with your calm tone, simple yet very effective script and stunning visuals by Loka

[@ewthmatth]

That's Emily speaking on this video. But what you said applies to Josie too, the one who voices/presents most of the previous videos.

[@MrJayArt]

The universe has shown me the most beautiful art that I'll never be able to share or recreate, it's still remarkable to me.

[@kalebjacobs111]

The fact that we are able to somewhat portray what these substances are capable of with amazing colours and patterns is unbelievable

[@Vivec]

Next level this, bravo

[@josikinz]

thanks bro

[@Wooodfield]

Incredible work. This is the best quality video yet. Well done everyone

[@josikinz]

thanks man, it took a full month of in person irl effort from me/emily/loka/hypna 🤣

[@redbear4027]

Like Rome, in the end, we're living in an art world, too smart for our own good.❤

[@One_Lov3e]

Tremendous work

[@Yuvraj.]

First time viewer, not new to psilocybin, I am floored by the production value and clarity of communication. The information density was rich and engaging. You were having a pretty interesting conversation at the end there. Part 2 when?

[@ohethean8475]

I cannot begin to describe how incredibly well put together this video. This topic is extremely hard to talk about articulatly and in a digestible way. You guys did it so well. Keep up the good work👍

[@lorenmars5244]

MY GOD! What great work on this video. I honestly think it is the best video, on the subject, I've seen. The correlation with the nerve shapes and the shapes of the hallucinations is a very sound hypothesis.

[@Heyoka86]

It's astounding how the mind can create such beauty that also makes perfect mathematical sense. Or maybe the mind isn't even the creator, more a receiver, I dunno... Fascinating.

[@Rolling_lens_photography]

Full blown aphantasia here. My own personal experience is extremely vivid geometric patterns and colors and even actual internal visualization of objects under the influence of psychedelics. Than back to pure darkness afterwards. I cherish these fleeting moments.

[@steviejoe66]

Just out of curiosity, have you ever tried microdosing to see if it allows you to visualize objects, without geometric visuals?

[@Rolling_lens_photography]

Microdosing doesn't have any effect on visuals.

[@steviejoe66]

@@Rolling_lens_photography interesting

[@TomMeats-fv5ud]

I have full aphantasia too, I see visuals and patterns with eyes open but don’t get any closed eye visuals

[@jessemontano762]

I always get blown away by the holy sights i was looking at my friend sitting down on a step and suddenly it all became a holy gothic cathedral.. not only the sights, but the feeling it provoked. Incredible how it does that...

[@cosmiccomedy7394]

A full on religious experience... I've been there too mate. The Divine is real... it's insane.

[@mbunds]

"Expectations" have a huge role in visual imagery. In my college days, I had these three posters on my bedroom wall, one of Jimmy page holding his double-neck guitar, one of Jimi Hendrix playing an intense solo, and a poster with a fantasy wooden ship being towed by dragons. After putting them up, I couldn't wait to see them "come to life" during a trip, ESPECIALLY the dragon ship. I wanted to see THAT one in action, knowing "for a fact" I would see the heavy swells breaking against the ships bow, spraying wildly, as the dragons labored against their tow chains quivering with tension, and the dragons long necks weaved around, and the ships pilot in their heavy Strangely though, after the intensity of the trip reached "acceptable levels", I went into my bedroom anxious to see the dragon ship "in action", but nooo; Jimmy and Jimi were jamming together in front of a huge crowd, stage lights flashing, fog machines running at full bore, background musicians (whether real or imagined) running around, or rocking in the background, but my dragon ship poster? It was as solidly fixed in reality as it was when I wasn't tripping. With all of the action around and within the music posters, with all of the textures on the room ceiling boiling, with all of the fern-patterned geometry superimposed on ALMOST everything, and everything else typical, my damn dragon ship poster simply "sat on the wall", like any "common" poster, doing nothing but displaying an image. I could only guess that my attention and expectations were so strong, I actually "hallucinated" that the "motion imagery" I wanted so badly to see was only a poster.

[@chriscohlmeyer4735]

All I had was pencils, crayons and paints to try to capture a point in time... You have really captured the fluidity, and motion, and intensity, and the ever changing nature of the experience with computer animation. Thanks ;)

[@nathanjacob0459]

This is the first video I’ve seen exploring WHY such profound geometry begins taking up our vision, this is lovely. One day we may be able to confirm scientifically what translates between eyes, processing, and consciousness during these experiences.. it’s something I’ve wondered since my first experience

[@Litepaw]

Wow! This is super accurate as far as i can tell. Ive never been further than the deep end of level 2 and i can undoubtedly say that was my personal limit with classical psychedelics. DMT is a whole another beast though, and its the only one that actually warped my consciousness into a completely different visual alien world without any of the mental load. It was a very humbling religious and spiritual near death experience, rather than a mentally and emotionally loaded psychotherapy session like shrooms tend to do sometimes. Thank you for this video, amazing work!! It's really important that there are people trying to correct all the misinformation and myths around psychedelics and their value to humanity. They're not just "some drugs that make you see pink elephants".. They can be a powerful therapeutic life-changing tool for people who are stuck in various bad situations like addiction, depression, or just feeling hopelessly lost with no direction or passion in life. But its also important to remember it's not risk-free, not for everyone, and also not an automatic solution to the above mentioned things. The danger they can pose should 100% be respected.

[@DavidAKZ]

What are the risks please?

[@doseferatu]

​@@DavidAKZwhen I was 16 I took too much acid and the dark spots in a white bathroom became portals through which giant slugs with razor teeth were crawling out. I ran around the neighborhood until I got tased and beat up by the cops and rushed to the ER still trying to rip the slugs out of my body

[@DavidAKZ]

​@doseferatu thanks for replying. They talk about 'set and setting'. Do you think the experience would have been different with a different place or do you think it is related to state of mind? Thanks again.

[@Litepaw]

@@DavidAKZ Some people are predisposed to certain conditions like schizophrenia, and even without having a straight up condition, there's always the risk of someone jumping too far into the deep end without any guidance or research and traumatizing themselves for life. Some of them have a very low dose range too, so you gotta measure out the dose extremely accurately. And also because sourcing them is currently illegal in most of the world, so there's also the nasty risk of dangerous fakes, adulterants, and random research chemicals. The risks can be dramatically lowered by using test kits, doing research, and taking set + setting into account.

[@TheDeathOfSound]

Loved it. I have the hypothesis that learning/improving your drawing skills might increase the appearance of geometric shapes with more detail.

[@CaptainKirk01]

This was the most interesting talk on this subject I have ever found. I am in my 50's I tried psychedelics maybe 10 times when I was in my teens, and 20's. I have had so many questions since then and you answered almost all of them. Thank you, you helped answer a lot of questions.

[@evelynnnyt]

You seem like a cool person :) mush love

[@bzmin99]

Thank you so much for making this video. I was a passionate psychonaut when I was younger but now with work and life taking over I just can't find the time or energy to explore the mind. This video explained a lot, heck I might even go on a trip soon

[@umarmikailu-cj8qg]

Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. Imagine carrying heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.

[@floppypancake]

Love it! I really enjoyed the in depth science at the end and your ideas on the mechanisms of action on the brain. Super interesting.

[@emilykins]

Thanks! I was really excited to find that research when I was writing the video. I feel like some of that stuff has just gone unnoticed by a lot of the psychedelic community, flying under the radar in bio mathematics journals

[@krissywhiskiart]

Awesome. As an artist who has synesthesia I enjoyed this video. So glad I found this video. I’m subscribing!

[@tonygatos1]

Thanks!

[@BartWronsk]

So beautiful and accurate; the best visualization on the internet. I love it. :) I was blessed with very strong and always fascinating CEVs (to the point of often reaching level 4 even on small~ish doses < 2g of shrooms), though rather subtle OEVs (I never got beyond level 3 of OEVs, even on 3 string acid hits when my soul and mind were completely melted. And interestingly, I get more OEV effects on molly/sally and strong CEVs). Meanwhile, my wife almost never has any CEVs and they are mostly "faded" and not very distinctive.

[@francescocarbone369]

This video was amazing. The graphic design, the narrating, the background music, the content, just amazing

[@Secretgeek2012]

I studied psychology a couple of decades ago and have been something of a psychonaut in my younger days, so this video and your hypothesis is absolutely fascinating to me. Personally, I used to experience auditory "interference" or distortion quite early in a trip. Voices became very difficult to understand. Though music was less affected. Fun times! 😊

[@Moeron86]

Ive often found my mood creates different types of visuals For example, a more happy, enlightened mood gives me more smooth, rounded geometry. But a more "negative" for lack of a better word, or intense mood gives more angular and sharp visuals.

[@entorwellian]

Pretty good description of the visuals on different psychedelics. I think one caveat though is the amount of psilocybin in the mushrooms you are taking, as I've had powerful visuals which were indistinguishable from the LSD ones and other trips where it pretty much matches your description of dark and soft. LSD is pretty consistent (i just hate that lasts like 12-16 hours). DMT ones are 100% like how you describe.

[@pmac5934]

Agree with you about the mushrooms / acid . Although I do find the acid experience a little bit more 'angular' than shrooms , regardless of relative intensity . Psilocin , the assimilated form of psilocybin , by the way, is actually a form of DMT

[@ezetobebad]

Most excellent, and it was delivered without the need to attach any kind of 'spiritual' meaning that may be derived from the visual experience and similar related mumbo jumbo. thanks for taking the time to present this, it must have taken ages.

[@Brousey]

You absolutely Nailed the levels with this video. Level 5 unconscious otherside of veil needed😊

[@lionelpiresalves7477]

wow you are a needed scientist i think the way you explain some of the geometric secrets is really fascinating.

[@njones420]

I've never seen that morphing-effect reproduced so well! "the curtains are breathing!" As a natural synesthetic, the discussion on neural interconnects was facinating and I'll definitely be reading those linked papers...I only had one experience with psychedelics 20 years ago, I hit level 4 and it scared the hell out of me. :) Fantastic video!

[@xxFreakifyxx]

I loved this video! And it confirms lots of my personal experiences on different substances. One of my favorite experiences was on LSD seeing the symmetrical face of a woman morphing into a cobra like Medusa and surrounded by laser light geometry. I was staring at a brick wall. And later on in the same trip, I saw the level 3 visuals that overlay every surface. I walked out onto the front porch and looking down at the street, everything was covered in doodle drawings of faces in glowing green and purple lines. I usually have to take a much higher dose to achieve visuals compared to the people I’ve done it with, so it’s a real treat when I do get there! I’m an artist, and I believe psychedelics have greatly helped me in my art practice

[@jedi36mindtricks]

Very cool, thanks! 13:40 gave me full on body goosebumps!

[@HerbalSergal]

Do you know what the song is by chance?

[@Charlie-Em]

Dude I literally thought I lost track of this channel forever until finding it again just now and immediately recognizing it and clicking. I'm definitely not only subbing but I really want to have an academic discussion!

[@sun0ne693]

Wow you are the future, thank you i dont feel lonely anymore with all the statistics you give us. I really hope you get the Noble prize some day for your research! Much love we are one

[@peacepuffz]

I try to concentrate on the feeling & not get too distracted by the amazing visuals, I was told this was the way to letting the healing in. I do find I had the best results in ceremony's where you sat up & joined in rather then lay down & go inside. It is hard to concentrate on a song book though when it's written in a language you don't read & the words are floating all over the room.

[@Ana0bella0goth0fox]

Absolutely loved the video 💜 Very informative and concise. The synesthesia theory makes so much sense. So basically, if I understood it right, thanks to the hyper-connectivity caused by psychedelics, the normally separated "data" from various senses bleeds into each other and causes various artifacts. So like, the "audio data" gets converted into "visual data", and gets displayed (perceived) as a kind of geometry. Kinda like how you can put a track into Audacity and get the waveform display, a visual representation of its audio data. Or even convert a .jpg (visual information) into .mp3, import it, and get a bunch of seemingly meaningless noise - the same data interpreted according to Audacity's key. Except here it looks less like noise and more like art.

[@dionterry7958]

Incredible.

[@robertwoods1380]

Definitely profound experience that closer to the experience I’ve ever seen as of today. I want to thank you and all involved in this experience.

[@smoothashummus140]

I LOVE Hypnagogist and his work! So awesome seeing his work here!

[@hypnagogist-art]

Gonna build up some really cool stuff from the things I’ve been working on through the channel, can’t wait till I can show y’all ❤

[@SarahU310]

Down to get some good psychedelics? (lsd,dmt , shrooms,salvia,mdma……..)

[@SarahU310]

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[@TheAlkhemiaStudio]

This is (what I think) a must watch to anyone who wants to learn (and maybe experience) psychodelics, it's effects and how it relates. No other video about this topic is as deep and as well structured. Thank you so much for your hard work and hope to see even more videos like this in the future with even deper research. 👏👏👏👏👏

[@frolicsomefae]

FascinTing video! The part on aphantasia potentially influencing geometry experience is peaking my interest for research. Happy to have found this channel, thank y’all for your work :)

[@swimstud5151]

Last night this video was unexplainably displayed for me in the middle of a music session. It took me further than I've ever been. I'm glad I had all my bags packed for that one. To everyone who has a hand in these; much respect and gratitude. You guys are doing fantastic and fascinating work. 🌌

[@bridgeofspirits]

THIS IS MAGNIFICENT, Thank you for creating this

[@paulthomann5544]

Amazing as always :) I love that you mentioned the pressing on eyes and the strobes. These are what i did as a kid. I built a little blinking LED circuit and changed two resistors to potentiometers, which allowed me to control the speed of blinking and the pulse width, ie. the length of bright vs dark. I got under my blanket, eyes close to the (very low power) LED, started slow, increased speed until i could still tell that it was blinking but not identify the individual strobes anymore. At that point, playing with the pulse width made geometries appear, change shapes, and fill my field of view. The character was similar to the ones i got when i pressed on my eyes, but of course the color was that of the LED, whereas with pressing i mostly got white. If you ever make a video on the correlation of neuron layout with the patterns, i'll totally watch that!

[@Ana0bella0goth0fox]

Oh god, you got creative. The farthest that I've come as a kid was squinting at light with tears inside my eyes, watching the little floaters and light artifacts change :D But also, with the eye pressing thing, I've noticed the visuals tend to be much stronger when I'm sick or low on iron (that dizziness when standing up after a long time). I wonder what that's all about?

[@briandowers851]

I’m learning so much about visuals I could not put into words with this channel. Thank you to everyone that contributes to your videos. I am very grateful for you.

[@Bo-kq8tn]

woah, it was really interesting to hear the connection between synesthesia and psychadelics! I have synesthesia and I've had many instances of seeing geometry like this at level 1 and 2, despite having never taken psychadelics. It's especially strong when I'm very sleepy. I've had it happen ever since I was a child and thought I saw swarms of translucent bugs flying around the ceiling when I had just woken up. I also definitely have the musical experiences you described, but the shapes are much less fractal and much more in my mind's eye, than something I can physically see, with eyes closed or not. I'm really excited to see any future studies about combining syneshesia and psychadelics, fingers crossed!

[@emilykins]

That's so interesting! That you get it without as much of a fractal style might support the idea that it is a combination of non-visual stimulation of the visual cortex to create the geometric style and synesthesia to create the complexity and profundity of the experience, since if you remove the first part you still have a lot of the behavior but without the geometric style. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@georgello123]

I also see these things as you described "swarms of translucent bugs"and if i focus looking into nothing, i can see them more with my side eye. they just appear more and more, and then all of a sudden disappear. . i noticed there are different types of them.

[@milos4794]

i watched this on acid and i couldn't figure out if the visuals were me or the video effects . You guys did an outstanding job with this i haven't seen work this well made and well produced about the subject of psychedelics let alone the geometry of it all . Very indepth bravo !

[@christopherebner1741]

Hands down, the most helpful discussion about these experiences so far. Immense gratitude to everyone involved in the production of this video. I have searched for a way to explain to others as well as myself what's going on, and this video is the closest approximation I have found. Thanks again!

[@Epicsburg]

I had no idea you were behind psychonaut wiki. Your work has helped me and so many others so, so much! Thanks so much for all the information!

[@FLScrabbler]

I do find it really great & refreshing to have discussions about this that explain things from a scientific perspective and not one that involves esoteric stuff, religion or even just pseudoscience. ❤ Thank you! A great video! I agree with everything said, even though I am in the minority groups regarding most LSD vs Psilocybin...

[@flowinsounds]

those object filled visual denote a remaining attachment to symbol and meaning. I did a lot of work on visualising 4d and moving 4d objects entire, and found that once I'd done that, my experience of visual effects changed significantly. Flatland is a great primer for understanding the actual nature of the reality into which we are embedded. lokavision did great work here

[@hanfo420]

I recommend using the translation / audio track feature. A ton of people don’t understand english good enough to understand everything. But this video deserves to be seen by masses to educate.

[@ekuude]

Yeah and communities used to be able to upload their own localized translated closed captioning until KZbin decided to replace it with the god awful auto gen CC

[@Rawi888]

This is so cool, you even got Loka here. Woooo. Thats so sick.

[@KieTheCreatingOne]

This video is incredible. You managed to immerse me into a psychedelic trip, full of visuals and insight, without the need for substances. I always feel like I have eureka moments or insights while tripping, piecing together information I already knew, but couldn't really put together. The one unsolved mystery for me was the patterns and geometry. You've given a fully comprehensive thought to that in this video and I'm left with my mind blown. Can't wait to trip and properly deep the thoughts from this video. Thank you for continuing your research into psychedelics.

[@thekateress]

Two things fascinate me particularly: one is the way intricate geometric patterns appear on the skin, but only the skin of me and my partner, they glow luminously and are so incredibly beautiful but they only appear on the skin and not the clothes, hair, surroundings. I am always fascinated. Sometimes they’re a repeating pattern with straight edges or dots, sometimes they are like floral vines and creepers which grow, such as when I watched them grow out of my partner’s hair, across the skin of his face, framing his face and honouring him like a god with celebration and reverence. I am awed by the beauty of it all. The other effect I love is the way similar ‘vines’ of luminous light grow in time with the music I am listening to, my favourite was a glorious violin tune that made beautiful light ‘vines’ grow through my field of vision and I loved those things so damn much. I still enjoy listening to the same piece of music, it makes me feel such overwhelming, all encompassing love and safety. Isn’t it all just fantastic?! Even the hard stuff, it’s still amazing 🤩

[@weversondiego35]

So, yesterday i did my first trip with 3g of psilocibin. I did it alone for the first 3 hours and honestly i wasn't prepared for the intensity of it. At its peak it was a level 4 experience where it didnt make any diference between eyes open and closed. 3 hours into the trip i called my friend wich help me bring back to reality, and the way i tried to describe it for him (he never did it) while i was still on trip, is that my thoughts itself where being desconstructed into fractals, and that was the part where i kinda freaked out. I coudnt recall who i was or what i had taken (psilocibin), and didnt remember the process it would take into my organism for it to end, the more i tried to find logic, the more confused i became, it was like each concept was a fractal, where every little meaning it had came to my mind at the same time, and every concept/meaning of the previous meaning came to my mind aswell. An exemple was when my mouth was dry, i though about drinking water, and the word water brought the thought of liquid and molecules, and molecules brought atoms and particles, but all of it came to my mind at once,from water to particles, in a way that i got lost into it until the next time i felt my mouth dry again. I believe it was kinda a bad trip because i coudnt let the shrooms take me with them, i was scared and tried to resist, but the good moments where the best of my life. I will do another trip next month. The feeling i got from this first trip is that the visuals are a consequence of what is happening with yout thoughts, the toughts itself are being deconstruct into fractals to the very root of ther meaning, and thats why i think my ego was dissolved, this could be explained by the intense activity between the brain areas. Im sad that i coudnt let myself flow with the trip but wont give up. I know that you should try to take knowledge from the trip back with you, but the only things that i got was that time dont exist, the present is infinite and reality as we see is a lie. i know it sounds superficial and far fetched but it makes total sense to me, and today i'm feeling way better than before the trip. I understand that the bad aspect of it was my fault and im looking foward to do more trips. Thank you for your content

[@iainhill492]

The "only" things that you got were the telephone call that you may have heard spoken of before ! (when you get the call...hang up!) I mean this nicely, spend time processing and learning from your recent experience before trying to get anymore insights , you have much from that alone ! 😊

[@mayatrash]

I often get this kind of mindset when “I’m trying to hard”, to hard what you ask? It depends, most of the time it’s either trying to hard to understand, explain or to hard to come back to a sober state. I can imagine how this was not easy for you but I can give you a tip for the future: This mindset of trying to hard, being to much in one thought, leaving to a deconstruction and fractalization and also resulting into something “hard to leave”, is one thing that can be easily dealt with: somebody has to tell you one simple different beautiful thought like grabbing your hand gently and saying: “Look at this beautiful tree, isn’t life so beautiful?” And then you’re almost immediately out of it. Some people manage to do this on their own, I sometimes can, but not always, it helps to then change the setting. If the set is struggling, change the setting: listen to different music, take a walk, eat something, talk to someone, put the headphones away etc etc. This helped me a lot

[@weversondiego35]

@@mayatrash ty, i will definetly try this. Im planning on a maditation centered trip next time, and will make sure to seek some "good triggers'' for good thoughts. i really apreciate the advise. cheers

[@weversondiego35]

@@iainhill492 i didnt fully understand what you mean, could you please elaborate more. all the help is appreciated ty

[@Spiritguide1984]

As someone who grows if it's someone's first time they always say I do a 8th right and I'm like no way bro. Do a little. In a few days do a little more you will know.when your ready to move onto the next level I would never recommend 3g for a first timer unless they did other psychedelics before and not dmt cause dmt is easy and not scary like other ones.

[@pfn1]

Wow, been searching for an explanation for a long while, but this has to be it. Even though I do not use psychedelics, I can see the random patterns when I close my eyes somewhat similar to what the video presents. Not as pronounced, but the patterns change fast with very dynamic movements. I look forward every time before going to bed and just observe the random patterns. They actually put me to sleep.

[@Swaderz9]

WOW!!! This was truly the most incredible presentation on this subject I've ever seen! I love everything about the way you presented the information and visualized every part of it. Having been to the deep end of Level 3, maybe 4 on LSD along with many "hero doses" on mushrooms and DMT, this is incredibly accurate visually.

[@spectrumofconsciousness-waja]

Brilliant! Fascinating and very well structured and presented and visualized, thank you so much. I am not a very visual imagineer so my psychedelic visions have tended to be more energetic and colorful formations (representations) of ideas and sensations and emotions even, but I just wanted to offer an alternative hypothesis for the patterns and "geometric" visuals, because neurons are too small and they have to form neural networks comprising millions even billions of individual neurons, through trillions of connections or synapses, in order to facilitate perception, and so I think what we are looking at, is actually the perceptual representations themselves, the pattern recognition "software" of the mind that is constantly looking for patterns that enables us to know what we are looking at (and differentiating and categorizing). In certain phases of the psychedelic trip we are between the normal regular everyday constructs of the left brain, and the much more creative imaginative distributed possibilities of the right brain, and for me, that's how these visuals are arising.

[@DJTeddyJetts]

These visuals were so good!!!! So accurate! Wow! First time seeing such a satisfying video replication of psychedelic videos. And the information to go with it is so good!!! I deeply appreciate the accuracy of this video!

[@catsinq5726]

Fantastic visuals. I was completely blown away. I am one of those people who never has visual experiences with LSD (and there are times when I have taken a LOT) but psilocybin yields a wonderfully beautiful and intricate set of patterns. Some of these visuals reminded me of DMT, I substance I wish I could find again. Those were some transformative experiences.

[@harrystylesisamazing07]

Wow thank you for this !! I keep coming back to learning more about psychedelics because it feels like it’s a topic that you can forever keep learning about!!

[@lyonwillman302]

This is an incredible video, wow just wow I’ve been looking for a video like this forever! Keep up the amazing work! Love from New Zealand ✌️♥️

[@pawelsobieraj]

You've done something that I don't think anyone has ever done before. This is by far the best and most faithful recreation and description of psychedelic visuals I have ever seen. Excellent job.

[@merlinmakinson4724]

I like the hypothesis I feel it’s solid . I’m a very visual person and am an artist. I have a photographic memory and explain things visually so I’ve had insanely great visuals on LSD and shrooms . On heroic doses of LSD I’ve had visions that are very similar to DMT descriptions. I’m with you on the idea that the geometry is being influenced by the vibrations of the electrons . I feel sacred geometry does have a place here . When I watch videos like yours and Josies I can actually feel it in my mind . I think there’s a neural memory there . I love all your work and feel it’s advancing this field of brain research.

[@PAULTHEMAGNIFIK]

Loved it! I lived an incredible experience by just looking at your video, wandering in my head at the same time

[@pcn267]

Xtreemleee great job putting this together im sure it took quite some time.i personally understand more and how to travel through. Thanx Emily!

[@poplopong]

I've never seen a more accurate visual representation of aphantasia than at 5:24, for my whole life this is what happens if I close my eyes and try to imagine anything at all. Ironically psychedelics tend to have the opposite effect, being at level 1 "cures" me temporarily but only through involuntary imagery. I've never been able to imagine a specific thing on demand even while tripping, but psychs can at least give me some idea of what a normal person's visual experience is like, just having a mind's eye to begin with. I don't like doing them though because it leaves me with a fear of missing out and sense that I'm somehow broken and unimaginative

[@RadekPilich]

same here

[@maxduewel54]

I did not thought It could be done but you guys did it !!

[@feargripper]

Josie you using your S/O for voice acting was a great choice! She’s really good!

[@josikinz]

thanks! she even wrote the script too! i just gave creative input 😅

[@thomasmightsnap]

The hypothesis makes so much sense, thanks for sharing!

[@EdGreenTO]

Beautifully presented and interesting discussion, thank you. I often think of our brains as pattern-matching supercomputers, so it's not too surprising that throwing some magic into the mix makes us see patterns everywhere.

[@JalenJaguar]

Incredibly thought provoking stuff!! I think it’s so fascinating the way the human brain strives for pattern recognition in every bit of stimulus that we take in! and it’s very incredible how psychedelics enhance that in our minds

[@fischX]

I think it gets funky with group psychology experiments, ask someone who trips to find something really cool but ask to not talk about it but write it down (as good as it gets) let someone who also trips look at the same space and also write it down. You will get extremely similar descriptions, what points to a underlying physical bound element of visuals that is somehow shared.

[@zinakojima6760]

You mentioned in the video, 18:10, that some people may not experience psychedelic geometry due to aphantasia. I'm a mathematician and can sort of visualize higher-dimentional spaces, manifolds, and objects in common life. Most of math work is done purely imaginatively/speculatively. Can't tell what comes first, aptitude for maths or advanced inner sight, but what I can tell instead is that this ability to visialize drastically enhances on acid. It's much easier to visualize fractal-dimentional spaces (i.e. fractals), generative grammars (these are basically the same), semi-orthogonal latent subspaces, infinite-dimentional Hilbert space etc. Likewise, solving 7-dimentional geometric problems becomes almost as easy as a pie with the caveat that concentrating becomes hard in general.

[@max-fj7np]

I lose all self awareness on psychedelics. Feel like I can get annoying, pointing at things I'm seeing and saying "LOOK AT THAT" "HOW COOL IS THAT" without realizing everything I'm seeing is within my own mind. Others don't see it. Don't have the self awareness that others around me are having different experiences. I have this overwhelming urge to share things when Im tripping

[@miheekrao1292]

U shd trip alone brother

[@newfreenayshaun6651]

Sounds like you got caught😅 I almost got caught. Can't imagine the trouble I'd have been in😂 showed up late at the house before the shrooms kicked in, went to bed🎉 laughing and making way too much noise!😂

[@NowayJose889]

This was very well done and extremely accurate, great job! thanks for doing this

[@dezzi6219]

this truly is the next step in exploring hyper dimensional space, by categorizing and identifying structures constantly in motion we can better understand what they are. For me personally it’s hard to remember the specific types of structures post trip because it’s such a profound space of reality. 💯

[@Mikata-Mark]

It was probably too late, but recently, i had my first level 4 trip. Eyes open while watching anime and suddenly holes opened in my vision, sending me into my trip officially! It was the first time i saw actual visuals from mushrooms and it was a beautiful trip! The visuals in this video are stunning! Good job!

[@ketalesto]

Absolutely superb video!! :) very well structured, explained and represented

[@daniele.7438]

Tripping under a full moon in the desert on a mouth of mountains was amazing it's as if the ground was sand as if the environment was under water. And the moon with clouds around made a worm hole . It was the most profound experience in my life and I'm grateful for the courage to see it .

[@GettingHyphy]

I've always been blown away by psychedelic geometry, specifically the intricacy of closed eye visuals i've seen and always wondered how our brain could create such a thing. Thanks for explaining your hypothesis!

[@LokaVision]

Vision goes brrrr

[@jedi36mindtricks]

Awesome work yall! Was this a re-upload or did we get a sneak peak early VIP backstage preview this morning??

[@josikinz]

if you're in the discord you probably just saw the video while it was still unlisted

[@JoePiotti]

Good job on the visual effects.

[@hypnagogist-art]

what does it mean when you see a square

[@LokaVision]

you’re going to hell

[@l.ronhubbard5445]

That you better get some cooler friends

[@Calicofrost]

What an incredible video. I'm going to send this to friends who've been on the fence about psychedelics 😁❤️

[@Blueyzachary]

I think level 2 is my baseline for everyday life-I’ve never had a psychedelic recreationally

[@SarahU310]

Down to get some good psychedelics? (lsd,dmt , shrooms,salvia,mdma……..)

[@SarahU310]

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[@beefusdoesstuff5194]

As someone with aphantasia, it's always nice to be acknowledged. I can say that yes, during psilocybin trips, I have experienced some pretty intense closed eye visuals. I've even experienced some open eye visuals with LSD before. I have no idea if this makes me an outlier.

[@amodernalchemist432]

*Wow!?* Thanks for the trip Josie Kins and LokaVision! Fantastic hypothesis👏

[@acazea7864]

This is probably my me of the best, most well produced and informing video on this channel to date

[@Eskimew]

i have aphantasia (no "minds eye" at all) so when i had my first closed eyes visuals a couple months ago it was amazing. it was on shrooms and it was basically the lineart of a 3D rubiks cube, furry and snaking along, taking up my whole "vision". it was black and white, very contrast-y, reminded me of the old beetlejuice cartoon lol. i was on a low dose so i'm not sure how i got so lucky, i kept opening my eyes and saying "wow, wow, oh my god", and i would close my eyes and it would come right back. i was having almost no open eye visuals. i tried again a couple weeks ago, i wanted to see with my eyes closed again, but i wasn't successful, even on a higher dose. i hope i can experience it again! i don't desire to take a high dose to get to that place

[@cogniplantari]

This is one of the best videos I've seen in regards to the psychedelic experience. Spot on