The 40/60 Rule in Destiny 2

[@ShadowDestiny]

Hey Controller Players, want to learn how Sensitivity ACTUALLY works and how to find the best settings for YOU? Watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ-loJJraM2gm80 Unless you work at Bungie, I *guarantee* you'll learn something by watching this video.

[@ondrejbacka]

Have you settled with your sensitivity yet?

[@myronakse5172]

Yea very interested in your sense

[@ShadowDestiny]

@@ondrejbacka So far my favorite is 9 @ 0.5 w/ 0.8 sprint turn scale. Not sure if that's what I'll stick to, but I've been enjoying it!

[@WinningItAll]

Didnt learn anything because I already watched it. Carry every week now?

[@ShadowDestiny]

@@WinningItAll deal

[@opulentresplendence5103]

This was the single most informative video I have ever seen on the subject of improving your pvp game. I love it when the top 1% of players make videos about helping 99% players improve. Great vids, keep it up bro!

[@gravity-arbor]

Agreed. Great knowledge here.

[@reece3587]

I was just teaching my friend who is a new player about this today then I see this video imma tell him to watch this

[@Monkeyman-qt1sm]

Lmao y’all need a video to tell you not to stand in the open while getting shot?

[@dylanhumphrey2479]

@@Monkeyman-qt1sm always a prick in the comments

[@Rojer05]

@@Monkeyman-qt1sm lol you really wasted your time commenting this lmao

[@AscendantNomad]

I was about to get my lawyers ready re: the title, but then I learned a shit load from this video. Well played, and well made sir.

[@ShadowDestiny]

haha thank you man! Of course the title and bit of the structure was inspired by your video, I really liked that one!

[@mindofthemuseless]

I was going to thumbs up this comment but its likes are already nice.

[@bruceayers512]

The 2 people I am learning the most From for PvP. Thank You Nomad and Shadow. Grandpa is getting Better.

[@liltommytrucker5319]

Absolute respect to you top tier streamers who aren't afraid to give respect to those giving it a go. As a PvP potato I live for these vids. Thankyou.

[@ZenSoCal]

You're rapidly becoming one of my 'go-to' creators for actionable PvP tips. Fantastic job.

[@Geekermon]

Keep it up man! Proud to see you growing! Well deserved!

[@ShadowDestiny]

Thanks so much man

[@juxcrim1387]

This man always makes sure to stay humble

[@keithcuster606]

Geek is My favorite Destiny YT. Glad I subscribed to your channel as well.

[@daMillenialTrucker]

Thanks dad

[@Shapeshifter617]

Watched multiple pvp youtubers for years and literally only heard this rule today. Recommended on my main feed and earned a subscribe, thank you for the useful info.

[@Totone56]

Haven't heard people talking about this since Counter Strike, it's been a while here too !

[@Zaidy_Waidy]

@@Totone56 You see, most people have enough common sense to use cover

[@xavierkane37]

@@Zaidy_Waidy people have common sense. But putting a flashy name like “40/60 rule” helps people remember

[@AxzoYT]

@@xavierkane37 remember? its common sense lmao

[@drofrehter]

I am a historically crappy PvP'er in Destiny but this video has made a significant difference for me. My game sense has gotten much better and I find myself in better positions and situations frequently but I still make dumb mistakes occasionally. Thank you for the vid!

[@CinoG2G]

I'm new to this game/franchise but it's dopee to see players actually have these ideas and discussions... being able to actually improve at a game while the game itself is growing too is great for both players and the Devs. My experience w Destiny as a shooter thus far has been soo much better than BF or recent CoDs. Still a ton of lore n shit to learn about lol

[@spiralshadow]

pretty cool of you to show times when you screw up and make mistakes as well - helps to contrast the good gameplay clips and provide context to your tips

[@deepego3]

Dude I love watching you play Spectral. You wring every ounce of utility out of that subclass. It's awesome.

[@picklucas]

6:24 Actually such a great comparison, thanks for this video. That one comparison alone actually resonated with me & I will continue to think of that as I’m playing.

[@ShadowDestiny]

Awesome!!

[@thomasghost8526]

I’m in the military so we apply this rule all the time and I understand your logic behind it. Dude we need more people like you in this game. Thanks for applying this rule in being OP in D2.

[@CastleContent]

Ah yes, I’ve had so much fun diving into peeker’s advantage in the past. Super intense in destiny lol.

[@brock8]

I got my first "we ran" today because I kept this in mind. I only ended up with 22 Kills but didn't die. I'd rather that than the 30 kills with a 1.5

[@ShadowDestiny]

GG!

[@THEMETALISBETTER]

You're an excellent teacher. Wish most of my time spent watching "improvement" videos was this productive or helpful. Big ups. Thank you for the video.

[@ShadowDestiny]

You're welcome, and thank you! I try to make all of my videos as helpful and informational as possible, so I hope you find them useful :D

[@jameskenner2015]

that rule about having the RIGHT cover is so key. i’ve been applying the 40/60 rule for awhile now but i always find myself dying because i can’t escape from my position. great point 🙏🏾

[@bendubose9887]

You have been absolutely killing it with this advice based content lately! This and the controller sensitivity video are the best I’ve seen in quite a while. Thanks!

[@ShadowDestiny]

Thanks so much!

[@navejar2764]

I actually never heard of this myself though I've been through the ringer of PvP quite a bit, but the moment you started talking about cover I instantly knew what you meant as it's how I play In any fps PvP game ever. Even though I'm a hunter that many would recommend and say I should be flying around, I like sticking to my cover on the ground and zap those in the air instead. I actually get myself killed more often jumping around than not! It really effective, having done Trails for the first time last week, AND got first flawless with the new trials update by simply doing what I was familiar with. Great guide!

[@ShadowDestiny]

Thanks! 🔥

[@largefren843]

Who says hunters should be jumping around? They have the worst jump for most gunfights that require accuracy

[@Zion-18]

The content of this video is super helpful, as always! Random side note: I finally got a Rapid Hit/Desperado Messenger this weekend after using Killing Wind/Kill Clip for months. I had a few Trials moments like your Messenger clips in the video. That perk combo is nasty! Great video, man.

[@ShadowDestiny]

Thanks! Yeah I love my Messenger it’s so good

[@aliahsan507]

yur videos are the reason my kd got better and how I went flawless 2 times this week, this is a big achievement for me. Thank you a lot shadow :)

[@ShadowDestiny]

you're welcome, congrats on the flawless :D

[@CoteVermeille0423]

And that is how in one video I learned a more than during the last three months of playing. You start doing this unconsciously but once you pay realise what you're doing, you can focus on it and improve. I'm subbing by the way.

[@goldenjam_0189]

I've been doing this because I was so sick of getting shredded by 3v1s its been working really well. Wish I found this video sooner lol. I had to figure out the 40 60 rule on my own

[@sauloquinones1660]

I just wanted to thank you for this video. I’m definitely one of those meat heads that runs out into the open and starts shooting only to get shot from 5 different angles. This video really helped me change my mindset and I have literally seen positive results from implementing it in just one day. You are my new favorite destiny content maker.

[@jadenyoung9439]

This video infuriates me so much simply because of how much of a god this guy is at crucible. This is the type of dude I feel like I get matched with every game and have no hope of winning

[@cameronwilliams6803]

always remember that he is the 1% of players so the other 99% of us feel the same, as long as u have fun when you play it doesn’t matter how good others are

[@aymanothman2114]

Nice video to inform the new people I’ve been doing this since destiny 1 and everything he’s saying will help 100%

[@ShadowDestiny]

Thank you very much!

[@devilduckietu]

One of the best videos on this subject i"ve ever seen. 10/10 examples, dude. You do such a great job of illustrating what's going on.

[@benlee4910]

This video helped me. A lot. I was bad at PVP. I was that guy who showed up for the pinnacles each week and contributed jack shit to be honest. The principle of the 60/40 rule and this video has helped my movement and game play so much that I actually enjoy crucible now. It gives you an anchor of how to build a play style by surviving, then engaging in multiple fights to increase your skill level where you actually start to enjoy the crucible and turn it from a chore to an enjoyable experience. Thankyou for this video.

[@ltdan0357]

This rule will help teammates with revive positions as well. Great video! Thanx.

[@Espurrz]

This was a great informational video, I’d appreciate it if you could make a video based upon the importance of team-based movement around the map.

[@jamiefajber5864]

This is such a good video. All the clips with breakdowns is the perfect format. I've been watching less d2 videos than I used to since I've watched literally 100s of hours of d2 gameplay at this point, but this video was fun to watch all the way to the end! Easy new subscription for you 🙌

[@ShadowDestiny]

thanks so much for the support

[@AndrewOnYoutube]

Effective use of cover, like effectively using your movement abilities to get into that cover, is mostly learned through having it done to you, and accidentally doing it to others. This video was a GREAT IDEA. Keep up the great content!

[@Sinyck-501]

I have less than 100 hours and this was absolutely huge for me. Your videos constantly help me improve, and help me catch up with my friends who are leagues above me

[@jayden5692]

your destiny content is by far the best and most informative

[@lancelehmkuhl]

A must watch if your looking to up your KDA and overall value to your fireteam. Plus your enjoyment of D2 pvp. This is great advice. A legit tip to keep in mind that isn't overly complicated. No skill gap to clear. Just being a bit more aware of your surroundings and the cover they can provide. I am very bad about breaking this rule. This video will definitely be in the mist of brain matter above my guardians corpse. Next time I'm picked in open area. I like how you bring up its necessary at times to play loose and not make rules sacred. Also learning the rules to know the best ways/times to break them. Some angles you provide explain my absolute astonishment/rage with some shots that opposing guardians have hit. This brings up the next topic to broach. Map awareness! Subscribed!

[@RobinBrowne0310]

I was busy being amused by your absolute nutty shot in the background.... Holy heck you are nuts👏🏼👏🏼

[@woodyrulesok]

This is literaly the best, most informative crucible video I have ever seen. Hats off my man!

[@ShadowDestiny]

much love!!

[@frostyraylyn2739]

I watch you videos to get better at sniping and it never fails you call out the mistakes I make subconsciously and I appreciate it alot

[@innenkosnarukami2450]

I'm a Destiny 2 scrub who almost never does Crucible. I suck at it, I agitate extremely easily, and I always seem to just die instantly. Asking of PvP tips has never been helpful, because I often get build advice like "Try running this more meta weapon" or "Build more Recovery" that would surely help if I were trying to push for Trials completion or something, but not when I'm some guy who's just trying to have a bit of fun completing his bounties without getting curbstomped every game. And then I randomly get reccomended this well-written, well-made, and immediately informative video on practical advice that I can immediately apply. I feel like I've learned more from this video than most PvP advice lumped together.

[@cee_ves]

This was the best tip I have heard for pvp. Apart from Lord Shaxx telling me to always throw more grenades of course

[@benstanfill363]

Slowly pumping up my KD. Started around a 0.8 about 2 seasons ago and am now hovering around a 1.3. Your videos have been so helpful. I actually enjoy crucible here and there now 😂

[@D_VABodyPillow]

This video helped me so much this week in trials, I realized the only maps I had gone flawless on were ones where the lanes helped me follow this rule, had trouble thinking of this rule this week, but got it down and got to the lighthouse.

[@chaosclg]

Awesome video man! A tip I learned from battlefield that will work hand in hand with this is remembering that the closest player to the corner dies first, it's a similar concept to the 40 60 rule but goes off you being so close to a wall that your arm is sticking out, or the end of your gun is sticking out so enemies can see you but you can only see the wall. So you aim to have the cover in front of you but you aren't completely hugging the edge of it. Bad explanation but it's good to be conscious of it

[@craiggant1]

Thank you for this informative video! I have seen a significant boost to my survivability, which is reflected in my k/d, almost instantly! My total kills are about the same per match, but I'm trading less, and surviving longer. I even utilized an escape route to bait my opponent into a lane, and that felt amazing!!

[@chrustopherbennett]

Seriously dude. You're a legend. Keep it up. This was a great video.

[@lancetersus1757]

I was a very skeptical even while trying not to be when you started, but the whole video was just incredibly informative, well done!

[@lelandj.4662]

I learned this hard way when I was on my Dead Man's Tale usage spree. Being far away from cover didn't just spell death to me, but to those who challenged way too far from cover. Was a valuable learning experience.

[@soulhunter7812]

I was wondering how I should explain about positioning and this. This went up. Thanks for uploading this

[@joshkstruble]

so i dont know why i never actively thought of this but actively putting it in my mind and making me think about this in my engagements IMMEDIATELY gave me an 11-0 undefeated and has drastically improved my kda. just being actively conscious of cover. thank you.

[@GreysDen]

This is the most helpful video on PVP I've ever watched!! Thank you!!

[@doc9970]

This video explains perfectly what I’ve been trying to tell my friends In crucible. However this made perfect sense while my explanation was dogwater. I even learned a few extra tips and tidbits from it so sick vid man

[@jakkersun]

This video, like all others you make, are as well thought out as they are clear and concise. Thank you so much!

[@kellygreenii]

Thanks. This video explains why I play well some days, and poorly other days. I instinctively do this when I play well. Now I have something to work to improve.

[@ShadowDestiny]

Love to hear it!

[@AaronJ180]

This is even more prevalent in Escape from Tarkov, very well explained.

[@hudsonps4669]

Great video to watch. In the past I would have said to myself “don’t find yourself in open spaces”, and the 40-60 is a nice systematic way to state what that means. I enjoyed the portion about having the cover on the right of your screen, as I didn’t know about that aspect. Also, I’d argue that this truly applies to PVE as well, but Destiny players tend to disregard cover most of the time because most of the content is too easy. And that’s why they tend to be slaughtered by enemies like cabal turrets, shriekers and ogres a lot of the time. (I am tired of seeing people die to the turrets in Gambit.) These are enemies are extremely dangerous if they catch you on the open field. I also find myself benefitting from what I learned in PVP all the time when I’m playing endgame content like GM’s, where cover is also essential.

[@ShadowDestiny]

100% facts!! Thanks man

[@matsuu1155]

literally the most important tip i’ve heard and used in crucible for the 2 years i’ve been playing

[@homedeezyfasheezy5662]

I’m total trash in PvP. Really appreciate the info from your video. Hopefully I’m able to apply it effectively to my game. You just earned a subscriber

[@godin.gaming]

Terrific video man! I'm a huge advocate of understanding your exposure and cover like this, so this was top-notch.

[@ShadowDestiny]

Thanks! Lane next to cover is the key haha

[@godin.gaming]

@@ShadowDestiny Always! ha ha

[@shinmentakezo2994]

This video helped a lot once you've adjusted to it, it really comes naturally! Thank you dude!

[@Moonlight-ux5ln]

This works out in strikes, raids, and closed spaces if you have enough time to read the room as you run in, knowing where you can jump and how to get through those pesky window spaces quickly to get some cover by dropping left or right (whichever has enough cover for the situation) and regain health

[@grandadmiralsuntzu5066]

I implemented this and I went from an average of 2-6 on a good day to up to 20 a game! I also implemented the use of the Scathelock. I was awful at Crucible, hated it. Now I actually enjoy it! Thanks Shadow!

[@cullenkuykendall]

I’ve been unknowingly doing this for a while. A good tactic to add to this (not sure of the actual name) is angle sweeping. I mostly use this in trials but if you find red on your radar but can’t see the opponent in a lane I’ll hug the angle of the cover I currently have and rotate until I see the enemy. If they get the jump on me I already have immediate cover to readjust and engage. You’ll see him do it a few times in this video.

[@taniksatthedisco6013]

When you got solo supered by that chaos reach in the beginning of the video I felt that in my soul

[@opulenceharbingerofchaos3939]

Your name and profile picture deserve an award.

[@keepitfuknmetal]

This is something that, over years of playing Destiny PvP, I’ve just programmed into my brain. But I didn’t know it was an actual concept. I knew about “peeker’s advantage” but this is a much more well articulated way of thinking about it.

[@WathanDerneise]

From 0.9-1.2 efficiency to 1.5-1.7 immediately after video. It's no magic and seems pretty obvious but just paying attention after looking at this has done an unexpectedly big difference. Thank you!

[@kaizen_5091]

Watching clips of Shadow pull out those sniping clutch moments is gold 💛 So glad he mentions the elephant in the room, D2 servers, uuuugh.

[@ethelz2cents]

Great stuff. But I can't help but wonder how much abilities and class special perks carried close calls that may have otherwise gone the other way.

[@drugastronamedalu]

i just won my first rumble using your knowledge! thank you sir!

[@NoctaLeche]

this is great info, I shared to my discord. I have to say man, its crazy how many people don't shoot at you when you're invisible.

[@d3nzoid]

useful. what do you think about videos on individual maps? tips n tricks on every map.

[@parkermauzey620]

This video was so helpful I can’t not like and subscribe. Incredibly informative!

[@BrandonPeach]

Always fun to see Destiny 2 controller magnetism at play. Good video.

[@captaincaffiend8880]

Very helpful. I'm very rarely the worst person on my team now. Get about middle of the scoreboard. Nowhere near top, but it's a big improvement.

[@cortezoliveira8211]

Amazing job, Shadow ! I was thinking about that these days, my best matches are when i play like this.its like playing safe but not safe exactly. Real good video. Thank you so much !

[@chaoticpuncher8756]

The thing that single handedly boosted my kd by an entire point (went from 0.8-1.8) was next gen max FoV and 60 FPS. Made the biggest change and made everything feel smooth. Less melee whiffs, more accurate gunplay and quicker response times were all results of that one change. Always had the good positioning just needed that performance boost.

[@zshinra3504]

Shared this with my New Light friends. Excellent video, good examples and well described. Thanks man.

[@ShadowDestiny]

Thanks so much for sharing!

[@pandafrosch]

At 30 seconds the plop sound synced with the kills satisfied and worth a like 🐢

[@revanjagergaming8714]

I just realized that I did this all the time in Destiny 1 and I was pretty damn good. Now I never do this and I get stopped all the time never could figure out why sucks so bad going from Destiny 1 to Destiny 2. Learn something new everyday thanks man

[@mrapyro]

Listening to this while playing a match instantly got better

[@ShadowDestiny]

Absolute W

[@oreoex9392]

Wow i never even thought about this, this has truly opened my eyes, thx bro

[@Christopherseander92]

Great video, I always knew that my positioning was kinda wack but these tips were perfect. you got a new sub!

[@mannixslaw5865]

that was one of the best tips i have ever heard and it has changed my entire gaming behavior and game !,boy thanks for that tip you are the best.

[@ShadowDestiny]

Wow tysm

[@Julian-rt9qs]

One of my clanmates told me about this the first day i was in the clan and keeping this in mind has helped me TREMENDOUSLY. Funny enough, I was remembering it backwards: I've been keeping my screen at 60% cover / 40% open attack space lol. Regardless, it's been extremely helpful.

[@BirdMoose]

I've definitely been using some version of this just subconsciously by playing the game more, however conscious implementation might be a interesting experience. Some stuff like peaking on the right I never knew, and totally re contextualizes why I like some angles to peak with a sniper and lose others much more frequently!

[@BigBoss549]

From playing other tac shooters like csgo and Siege, I definitely carried this into my pvp when I came from Destiny after two years

[@iEternalnite]

Goldeneye was my first FPS and Halo was my first foray into FPS games online. I didn't immerse myself completely into the genre until I got MW2 for PS3. Like most players, I've always had that crazy game that I could never repeat and that's probably because I was focusing on hitting all of my shots. Instead, I should've been applying the 40/60 rule so people could feed me the nuke rather than chasing after one in the case of MW2. This is a great idea that I'm going to make sure to practice in ALL of my shooters.

[@oliechan]

I watched this and the Sniper tips video, finally unlocked the adored sniper which I felt so much more comfortable with in terms of zoom level, and the combination of all three led me to topping my first crucible match ever!

[@ShadowDestiny]

LETS GOOOO

[@Nobawde]

I watch alot of these "improvement" videos and ever since i started following and watching shadow, my game has gotten better. Just this weekend i went flawless twice this weekend. My clan mates, whom i never played pvp with before, thought I was joking when i said at our flawless g7 that it was going to be my first ever. They said for someone whos only started playing pvp religiously since season 11, i was pretty good. Ive only been playing destiny 2 since season 9 and all Shadows videos among others are GREAT for new pvp players. Thanks for all your hard work shadow and would love to run a card some day

[@inceneration]

Console or PC ? If console... Playing since Season 9 should have made you a god aimer in pvp. Since Season 11. You should be up there between the average people. I rarely touch pvp since the pvp is so freaking broken thanks to P2P. Or for the simple fact that Battleye is just utter shit of an anti cheat.

[@CeNaSATeD]

Thanks shadow for this videos ! For us new players on fps games that play alone this tipe of tips and vids are huge, thanks a lot for doing this !

[@buen0_]

+plus respect for sole survivor snipes When I first started getting more serious about PvP I used huckleberry and a sole survivor with snap and slide shot

[@wallyofjericho]

This was amazing, I’ve been looking for ways to improve and this was just the thing I’ve been looking for. Kinda long video idea I’d love to see would be the best opening sniper pushes for a mode like trials. Either how to secure a lane fastest or map specific spots to surprise opponents.

[@gunfumaestro6196]

First time watching a video - instant fan. Thank you for the succinct content bruh. ✌🏾

[@EpicAkuma]

watched 2 videos of yours... 2 videos I found helpful - subscribed thanks!

[@DonnyBwelding1]

Best d2 pvp vid ..Ever ..thanks a ton ! Way informative

[@isyeetboi2331]

Amazing guide!! Perfect pace and explanations!!! 🙌🙌

[@Oak_Rocket]

This is helpful and something I need to work on. I do really well in 1v1 engagements but I can see now how I can improve my 1v2+ engagements. Usually when it's 1v2 or more I try to dish out as much damage as possible before dying and hope my teammates just finish off whoever is left. Using these tips hopefully I can start winning more of those engagements. Though I just got Dead Man's Tale last night and after playing Iron Banner today it made me feel like I don't even need to take cover. Lol. Now I see why everyone in Trials is using it. This is my first time seeing this channel and obviously Shadow is a very good player regardless. Watching the gameplay though is very eye opening to how strong the aim assist is for controller players. I am aware of how the bullet curve, aim assist, etc works in game for everyone but you can still clearly see the difference when watching a controller player.

[@sdup1987]

Back with another underrated 📹. Keep them coming.

[@Valorant_Simplified]

This video is GREAT. This lets me understand why I always needed to use bakris when playing competitively since it has a longer distance, and so I can back into cover without having to apply this rule. Now knowing this, I can actually use something else, maybe those stompees everyone talks abt lmao.

[@yseultblack2723]

I didn’t know this was a thing at all. I’ve never heard of the 40/60 rule and honestly that makes so much sense to why so many people have been able to beat me when I have the advantage.

[@DanielforKing]

Great info here per usual! Would love to see some sort of outro or tag line at the end of your videos tho. Sometimes your endings seem a bit abrupt. Even something basic like “Catch you in the Shadows” or “Until next time, Guardians” would help make the last few seconds feel like a book closing rather than the “stop recording” button simply being pressed. Just a thought. Love your channel!

[@ShadowDestiny]

Hey thanks, appreciate the feedback. Might add a little something like that in future vids

[@tabularasa7907]

I absolutely love your videos. Such high quality and actionable information. Thank you so much!

[@josephsmith8232]

Thank you for this. I learned a lot about how I contantly die from magic shots, and now I will try to apply this information myself.