The 4Chan Murder... | The Horrific Case of Amber Coplin

While strange and obscure messages began to appear on the anonymous forum, 4chan, officers had just discovered Amber Coplin's body in her own bedroom... both of these instances would lead to David Kalac, a very strange and disturbed individual who had committed several awful crimes.
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00:00 Intro
01:32 Washington
03:30 Amber Coplin's life
05:20 David Kalac
07:14 November 4th 2014
13:34 On the run...
17:23 Legal proceedings
21:39 Remembering Amber
22:40 Outro
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[@opheliasinclair3635]

Murder is bad enough, but letting the kid find the body is a whole extra level of evil.

[@BBWahoo]

These are how antisocials function, they feed on suffering

[@missbae28]

That's the part that made me sick😢

[@Jucelegario]

How ironic, she was legally capable of killing someone's child but that someone wasnt legally capable of killing her in return.

[@BBWahoo]

@@Jucelegario She was just a clump of (sentient) cells

[@AshNikkosWife]

@@Jucelegario stfu. Killing a clump of cells that can not live on its own, is not the same as killing a young woman and mother.

[@unquietriot8019]

It's next level inhuman to murder someone and take some measure of joy that the victim's child will be the one to find them. Totally fucked up.

[@slavicemperor8279]

Right? I cannot even imagine the life lasting trauma that kid will experience. I had night terrors caused by being exposed to gore and it felt so bad seeing people I never knew get hurt or killed, can't imagine what it'd feel like if that person was my loved one

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

@@slavicemperor8279 My best friend's father died in his sleep when he was 24, and finding his body screwed him up really bad. I can imagine a kid seeing much worse is exponentially more traumatic.

[@loisannlovelace8988]

Why would her son’s biological father picked son up from school, take him home and just lest him to enter the house alone after son most surely told his father his mother was MIA? He should have at least walk son to door and waited until son checked on his mother. So useless some people. That poor boy found his mother’s dead body all by himself 😢

[@michaelturner5050]

Cool story bro

[@maryjane4432]

@@Axolotl_Mischief my bff since I was 5, now 40. She didn’t see her dad come up and make coffee. She went downstairs and as she was walking down she said “you alive down here”. He was not, he had passed away at dinner time the night before. He lived in a basement sweet of her childhood home bc it was all on one floor for him. She is completely messed up from it especially bc what she said

[@deucemcallister13]

The sentence "eligible for parole in the year 2100" sounds wild to hear out loud.

[@chrislondo2683]

He would’ve been dead by that point.

[@kenos911]

The future will be so cool in 2012

[@aaronjackson1493]

​@@chrislondo2683Deadass, I'll be no younger than 97 years of age by then.

[@Lapsontheboy]

maybe his body will die but his brains will be transfer into the net..didnt you listen to claus schwab !

[@rachael8646]

With the fact that he was texting his mom and not getting a reply before finding her murdered, the poor boy will likely feel very anxious waiting for texts back from loved ones for the rest of his life :/ I know that I would.

[@Disturban]

When it’s a case involving 4chan, you know it’s gonna be interesting 👁️👄👁️

[@einienj3281]

🖤

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

I knew I'd see you here with 4chan in the title! Coffee's on me next time you're in London ☕

[@angelicdexter]

two of my favourite channels supporting each other!! this is such a dream. both of you are amazing at what you do and have my respect

[@gremlinaioli]

@@angelicdexter took the words out my mouth!! Love both channels 🙌

[@Daniel-xb4oy]

My two most watched crime channels⭐️

[@APMathsishard]

The fact that those babies had to not only see the photos, but one found her… is shattering to think about.

[@kheldaur2107]

She wasn´t found by a baby. her son was 13yo

[@Heather9T2]

@@kheldaur2107 he was still her baby and Far too young to go through something so awful.

[@warrenwoolridge6171]

At least they were "permitted" to be born alive.

[@APMathsishard]

@@kheldaur2107 it was HER baby. Regardless of age. And 13 is still VERY much a child. 🙄

[@DiligentThroat]

@@warrenwoolridge6171 and?

[@IsabelB1976]

the son waiting at the window for his mom to come home broke me utterly heartbreaking

[@MisterMeyhem-pi1fk]

He still does. Always talks about her even though he has very little memories of her

[@scottyerkes1867]

David is an animal who should never see freedom!! No parole! No leniency! Thank you Adrian for airing this case.

[@Carylina1]

You are disrespecting animals,

[@YukFou1]

At the very least he didn't get to breed.

[@HeatherHolt]

@@azuman7 lol what do you care if they speak their opinion on the subject.

[@HeatherHolt]

It’s really too bad the death penalty doesn’t exist in that state bc (besides Ted Bundy and other serial killers) this is a perfect case for it.

[@tommymorgan4677]

@@azuman7 Hmm, and what the point to your comment ?

[@Marcia.Marcia.Marcia]

I have to agree that finding a loved one deceased is a whole other level of trauma. What this animal did to her boys by posting those pics is unforgivable and pure evil.

[@elsiebackup-vf7vb]

Isn’t it strange the feeling her son had that morning, makes you wonder about our intuition as humans, I feel so sorry for him I hope he heals and finds peace in this life :(

[@thefunkyJ]

His body catched on before his mind. Maybe he could smell something in the morning but his mind blocked out that possibility.

[@danig342]

Same thing happened to me the morning I found my boyfriend after he committed suicide. From the moment I woke up, I had a panic attack and collapsed in my bathroom. I just KNEW he was gone long before I found him. The mind-gut connection is so real.

[@LiarraSniffles_X3]

I remember when walking home one day an ambulance rushed past me. I live in an area with plenty of other people, including multiple old-folks homes, yet I somehow knew that ambulance was for my grandma. I even said "That's for grandma." out loud, and got a weird look from a lady waiting for the bus. I was right, and though she was all smiles as they loaded her up into the ambulance, she died less than 24 hours later.

[@maryeckel9682]

​@@danig342I'm so sorry

[@RR-on4sk]

You do just "know" in a weird way. Family member unalived themselves & from the moment we heard they were "missing" we immediately drive around looking to find them, knowing they weren't going to be with us anymore.

[@KitsuyuutsuR]

Killed a mom of 5 kids, planned for her kid to find her body, posted pictures of her body and bragged about it on a forum, bragged about it in a confession note… Then his lawyers were trying to get him convicted of a lesser sentence like second degree or even manslaughter because he was blackout drunk?! Jesus Christ, how do these lawyers sleep at night?! I’m beginning to think we should start putting some of THEM behind bars, too! This world has totally gone off its axis…

[@Annoye]

I wonder also how people can be that egoistical and make that many kids

[@Vincentvondoom]

Annoy is an obvious troll

[@Annoye]

@@Vincentvondoom Thats not a troll here tho.

[@JimmmyRaynor]

​@Vincentvondoom she's a loser. look at her boyfriend that she allowed to move in with her kids in 2 months. I pity those poor kids. amber and her new boyfriend deserved each other

[@gracec8573]

I tooooootally agree !!!

[@Emogyal]

Hearing that her son no longer likes people makes me emotional. My trauma is not similar but I relate to the emotional detachment. The inability to trust and love people is incredibly painful and isolating. My heart goes out to him and his siblings ❤️

[@missmombi466]

Pretty much none of your business Jayjay.

[@billyaubin5360]

No one cares

[@Fluffy-Fluffy]

​@@jayjaythejetplanet51 why do you want to know?

[@HanFace89]

Ugh sorry for the comments here, I care, I hope you’ve found some healing ♥️

[@DiligentThroat]

@@billyaubin5360 cared enough to comment, you attention starved dog

[@realeques]

i love that you always put a "remembering victim" section at the end ... shows how with how much respect you treat these cases and why you're my #1 of the true crime channels.

[@JattFrealzTV]

This guy and EWU are gold!

[@missjackson3223]

He should get the death penalty, his alcoholism is not an excuse.

[@moldgrim1]

Death penalty is too kind. He needs to suffer, and being stuck in jail is worse than death. He'll die eventually.

[@maryeckel9682]

It was absolutely premeditated, not an act of passion. He hated her. He probably got drunk for liquid "courage" to do it.

[@hakenbiegerchris9255]

I dont get the wish for a death penalty. When the murder recieves his penalty, everything for him is just ending. I like the fact that a person who did such cruel things to another human being, have to sit in his prison cell for the rest of his life and had to think about it. I imagine this is much harder to take than just evade all this suffering by death penalty. Also i think the death penalty is much more humane than what he had done to his victim.

[@LH-Oz]

My son is 13. I almost got wiped out by a car a few days ago and my close brush with reality made me think long and hard about the impact it would have on my whole family, but especially my son. My heart breaks for her children to know they did not deserve to go through that. The devil sure is a shit.

[@traybern]

Car crash. IMPACT it would have. HA!!!!!

[@AxisDens]

​​​@@traybernyou are very weird

[@gameaddict6969]

The child waiting at the window for mom to come back is just heartbreaking. Rest peacefully Amber.

[@lost.in.scaradise]

My uncle and mom have a toxic relationship. When my grandmother died, he sent my mom a Pic of her to prove she had passed. He sent it to me first by mistake, and 15 years later, I still can't shake that image. My heart goes out to her sons.

[@Kisha_Zuri]

I'm so sorry that happened to you...

[@kylewilson2819]

I’m so sorry. That is beyond vile

[@brandonaustin5536]

My oldest daughter dated Bryce and had our granddaughter with him. He was and still is entirely messed up over it and it's been years. Our little one is an amazing little girl. Well covered Adrian. I appreciate the well done docu...

[@VioletJoy]

💔

[@primesspct2]

My heart goes out to her children, all of them. I wish she had not moved this maniac in with herself ,and her boys, when she didn't even know him. That is a decision I made after I got divorced, no man is moving in with my children and i. I would go it alone until they were grown. And I did. Her poor sons. It breaks my heart,

[@heather3383]

@@primesspct2 Same! Good mom!!!

[@avitution]

does she know her dad??

[@brandonaustin5536]

@@avitution no, he removed himself from her life shortly after she was born....unfortunately

[@divinedevil]

This sick monster picked up his son from the school & dropped him home where the dead body of his mother was lying but he did not enter the property himself. Imagine exposing a child to such horror that will now last a lifetime. Monster😡😡

[@gigglesinside]

It was his biological father that dropped him off after school. Very surprised he didn't go with him to check though.

[@shastafuller5457]

Paul took his son home, to Amber's home it wasn't his home he was respecting her home. As he was her "ex" he lives with enough regret of what he could of done. Be he did nothing wrong. Period!

[@jenithompson5501]

Amber was my friend she was such a ray of sunshine in the lives of all the people who knew her. This was an absolutely devastating time in her friends and families' lives. This guy shook my hand when I met him, and I had an instant cold feeling run through my soul. Like my subconscious inner self told me, this was a bad bad person, and I knew that I didn't want to be around him infact I spoke with Amber about my feelings and told her she deserved better than this guy .she was the kind of person who always wanted to help people and tried to see the good in people, but there wasn't any good in this person she is missed to the extreme by me and all that knew her .rest in peace, Amber. You are always on our minds and close to our hearts

[@snicker576]

Poor lady

[@commonsense571]

What a terrible loss to the world. I wish comfort in this seemingly endless grief. I am so very sorry. To all who love her, May her memory be a blessing 🌷

[@roseandrews8523]

I am sorry for the loss of your beloved friend. You're right, she did deserve better than that guy.

[@andrewphillips470]

You mean she preferred the bad guy

[@snicker576]

@@andrewphillips470 Single moms generally do. I don't know what to make of it, there must be some evolutionary/biological reason that single moms prefer the type of men that society as a whole would love to be completely scrubbed from our DNA

[@seyma-qj4jr]

hey adrian, i hope you read this. please cover the very recent case of Sanda Dia, a case from belgium. he died after a fraternity did terrible things to him so that he could join them. the guys who did it are all sons of very rich and important people, and they are being protected. last friday it was announced that they only have to do 200-300 hours of community service and pay a 400 euro fine for his murder. the details and footage available are horrifying. this case needs international recognition so please, please cover it. a video by you could get a lot of attention and that’s what this case desperately needs. i can’t sleep because of this case. edit: since this got a lot of attention, i want to share more details. this case happened in 2018, but the “sentences” were decided past friday. that’s why i called it a recent case, it’s getting a lot of attention again and it very much needs it. by terrible things i mean (please continue reading with caution!) they made him drink 1.5 L of gin. completely intoxicated, he could barely walk (there’s video’s of him). they didn’t give him and the other two participants (who managed to survive, thank god) any water. they made them dig a hole and filled it with cold water and made them sit in it. they peed on their faces. they pooped on them while they were knocked out by all the alcohol. they forced them to swallow a live goldfish. they tried to make them throw up the goldfishes back out alive. they made them drink a lot of fish oil, which is 1/4th part salt. they made them eat live mouses. they made them drink milkshakes made of mouses and roaches and whatnot. sanda was doing terrible and barely responding. there’s a picture of him laying on the ground in fetus position. they called him the n-word multiple times. they sang songs throughout the night, glorifying belgium’s colonizing past. they called h*tler their best buddy from germany. they waited too long, before realizing sanda may need help. they put him in the trunk of their car, not treating him like a human being and brought him to a hospital like that. they lied to the hospital about what had happened. they let one or a few members behind so they could clean up and hide the evidence. they deleted their messages (during the night they texted pictures and videos of the things they made them do to a group filled with old and current members). sanda’s heart stopped, he was in a coma for two days and his organs started failing (a combination of too much alcohol, too much salt in his body and being cold and wet all night long). his temperature got to 27.5 degrees celsius and he didn’t make it. he had such a great future ahead of him. he just wanted to join them because it was known that guys from that fraternity had good connections and could get great jobs. as a black young man, sanda wanted that for himself. instead he died in a terrible way. and all those guys are being protected. so what if their identities got leaked? i hope their lives get ruined, just like how they took away sanda’s life from him. justice will find a way.

[@sarahdewinter906]

Sending love from.belgium❤

[@michellementh9651]

That is such a gross miscarriage of justice. If you hadn't mentioned the country, I would've thought it was here in the States. I hope Sanda is resting in peace.

[@louise7083]

I read about this, its INSANE to me that this wasnt considered a murder. It was pure torture followed by death

[@iva9546]

Sanda's family deserves justice ❤ It's so sick that so called frat "brothers" could hurt and and torture him like that and only get small fines and community service

[@philip-op6de]

Not surprising, that’s a predominantly white country, they’re gonna protect other white rich ppl smh 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Lordradost]

My heart goes out to her children. I dearly hope they recover and bond over this senseless tragedy.

[@maryleisinger6357]

This case is so heartbreaking. Those 5 boys that are so traumatized and have to deal with this..the youngest one still waited for Amber to return. It's too bad this guy didn't get the death penalty. It's a waste to keep him alive. Thank you, Adrian, for your well-researched, compassionate coverage of this case and all the cases you cover.

[@tygressmomma]

You did a good job on this video. Amber is my sister and this was a horrible and heartbreaking time for us. Only 2 things I found wrong in this video. Our dad's name wasn't James. His name is Jim short for Jimmy. The second thing is that Paul was a nice guy. Sadly that is not true. He didn't treat my sister right. Do to domestic violence my sister left Paul. Thank you for being respectful to my family while doing this video. To this day it is still hard for us.

[@einienj3281]

Internet is a double edged sword.. it's great at connecting like-minded people and it's awful at connecting like-minded people..

[@MikadoYuma]

Alcoholism and drunkenness should never be considered a defense of ones actions. You drank that alcohol knowing what it does and what problems it can cause, so anything you do under its influence is your own fault. Its absurd that it can even be used as a defense in court in my opinion.

[@neneshubby]

Human beings will do almost anything to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions

[@skycloud4802]

I find it a weak excuse in court. Although something like alcohol does affect behaviours, it's not like anybody forces drugs or alcohol on people. And if they are addicted, then they have the responsibility to seek help for it before it gets out of control

[@zotha]

@@neneshubby that is the whole basis for the criminal justice system works off, some lawyers need to check their ethics in the defenses they present - especially abhorrent is the gross victim blaming that is so common place.

[@MikadoYuma]

@@flingonber It's great to see that life has improved for you and that you conquered the habit and addiction. My dad was an alcoholic most of his life, and it took a stroke and a long stint in the hospital and rehab to stop. He didn't live much longer, but it was nice to know him without the drunkenness towards the end.

[@ihatecabbage7270]

@@zotha lawyers have the ethnic, they have to defend him regardless. They cannot just say: "screw you, yeah he is guilty!" He was being given a lawyer, imagine a world where only the victims have lawyers? And "victim" is a dictator.

[@kenirainseeker539]

Sounds like he was trying to force her to have a kid and she didn't want it, a controlling man with a history of DV trying to control a woman's body, what a shocker.

[@Annoye]

Ikr but with her low iq..

[@beezybaby1372]

So sad that the kids saw the photos. I couldn’t even imagine how that would feel.

[@itsasquid]

This is the only video I've seen that talked about this incident in this amount of detail. You did an amazing job of being sensitive to Amber and her family.

[@joannewilson1483]

Again you provide the best style and content watching you from Adelaide australia

[@ronniemillsap]

well, amber was a murderer, or hired someone to murder her forming baby, no sympathy for her.

[@Bambre821]

the fact that he not only cruelly took a human life, but also sought to cause extreme trauma to the kids is horrible beyond words. Thank you for covering this! Loving your videos as always and much love from Seattle. (ps Seattle turned me from a coffee-hater into a coffee addict)

[@ronniemillsap]

nice that she, a murderd of her own baby was taken revenge on though. its sad noone crying the unborn baby being murdered, and only caring about the murderer of the baby, being murdered.

[@Biebity]

​@@ronniemillsap you are braindead....that fetus isn't a child yet! It's not karma. That's so horrible for you to say.

[@LuminousLilith]

​@@ronniemillsap Your personal decision means nothing here...Rest in paradise Amber. 🙏

[@TJ-bn2cn]

As soon as you read him saying that her son would be home from school soon, my heart, stomach and shock just went into overdrive. That is a beyond evil, cruel person! His actions show that he’s an attention seeker, just like a toddler.

[@Chicken-ev1ln]

nobody does true crime narration like you. YOU THE BEST! Quality unmatched for sure.

[@flej01]

R.I.P Amber, I can't imagine what your sons are going through, I hope they can find some closure one day, my heart goes out to your family and friends. What an absolute evil critter, what he has done to these poor boys is unforgivable. I hope he rots in hell that his dreams are haunted and he never sees the light of day again. Thanks Adrian, you are a great teller of stories, very respectful, thank you got your content and work you put in.

[@ericastapleton7042]

Unfortunately there's no such thing as closure when someone dies especially in a murder. It just comes down to acceptance of the reality ⭐

[@caseyisadore7952]

​@@ericastapleton7042 glad your real with that statement..

[@flej01]

@@ericastapleton7042 yes I know, I still have days of anger for the family and friends I have lost to the hands of another but, saying that I still find reason to smile as well.

[@ericastapleton7042]

@@flej01 Yeah it's not easy. I'm sorry that has happened to you. And nothing anyone says or does can change it. But when it's time for you to pass , I believe you will see them again in a much more beautiful place. Don't feel bad about laughing or smiling, your loved ones will smile with you. They would want you to live your best life ⭐

[@brendaredmond4678]

I am so tired of these self absorbed people putting children through this. My heart is broken for her son. Not only did he have to find his mother like that, but he also had to endure their fights. He had to live in an unsafe environment. I hope he finally has a safe place to lay his head.

[@nillyk5671]

Totally agree with you

[@clemclemson9259]

if these videos break your heart why do you watch them?

[@JaneAtwellRobinson1825NY]

Yeahh, there has to be wayy more to this story about Amber than we are being told. She had dentures at her age? WTF? Did her teeth all rot out due to drugs? And he glossed over the fact that she just killed her own child! Why? Why would someone do that? No one deserves to be murdered, but Amber was not living in a safe way. Those poor surviving boys are probably adults now and will always have a hole in their hearts. :/

[@Joelswinger34]

Me too. First of all, why have that many children? It's going to ruin your marriage. Second of all,when you divorce you'll be a mom with lots of baggage and will be a lot more desperate when it comes to dating. The fact that she dropped out of high school was an early clue that she didn't have good judgement.

[@mitchkora]

​@Jane Atwell Robinson 1825 killed her own child? Get a grip. Yes probably on drugs. Yes likely abused. What, it would be a good idea to have his baby? She was likely planning on leaving And had to make a hard decision. Murder? Maybe masterbating is Murder. Seriously.😅

[@nixpuk75]

Tragic story. What a mess of so many lives, as well as the horrendous crime itself. Well done with this episode, Adrian.

[@obsidiansuby]

No, the internet USED to be a place where you speak freely.

[@johnnylothbrok9231]

I discoverd your channel a week ago, and i cant let go of it! Much love and respect from Croatia, keep it up!

[@Thorfinn_Vinland]

Him and That Chapter are great to watch

[@samuelking8718]

Yes, coffeehouse crime is a great show. Keep watching and give it a thumbs up. Have a great day.

[@davidmene6625]

Me too I'm addicted too. fantastic content.

[@SkunkApe407]

Bok tamo! Welcome to the club!

[@therealdachshunddjangosmom]

That’s how we all started😂 Welcome❤

[@aazhie]

Pretty stunning how casual he was about sharing such awful photos. I hope the family can heal, but i can see why her son would be troubled. :(

[@ddjsoyenby]

same.

[@ChrundleTGreat]

4:20 When your partner literally has 2 red flags sticking out of his face…

[@TotallyKoalafied]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@jennifermazuroski9948]

Thank you Adrian, another epic episode of coffeehouse crime! I had never heard of this case. Thank you for being a voice to the victims who can’t tell their story. Your Channel is always respectful of the dead, which sadly, is missing among other true crime channels. Thank you for giving these murder victims a chance to have their story told. 💕💖

[@boajeyisalegend4472]

Adrian, I’ve been a fan for quite some time! Thank you for your continuous quality content!

[@CactussJackk]

I’ve been an air conditioner for a bout 3 years now. Do you like circulating air for the people?

[@angeladormer6659]

Another eye-opener of a case. What a gutless piece of excrement that thing was. I really hope he will come up against a bigger thing at sometime during his sentence and live a very long life incarcerated. I hope her boys will find peace and become the men their loving mum wanted 😪. Thanks Adrian for bringing this case ❤

[@mmgprovideo]

Hey brother - I just popped in while I’m watching this new video but wanted to say I have been watching your channel for around 8 months now religiously. You’re fantastic. Much respect for all the hard work you do man. It really shows.

[@josephn364]

I hope her kids get a lot of help. Trauma like that comes with serious implications and consequences.

[@KristineS73]

Prayers to those boys. I can't imagine what seeing those photos did to them. They were graphic. 🙏🙏

[@dakg8034]

The first sign of an explosive temper or physical abuse - walk away and save your own life, or at the very least, your peace of mind. For usually, those who exhibit violent tendencies are rarely redeemable and this is because the behavior is usually entrenched.

[@carolinaamnell5577]

Say it louder for the people at the back👏👏👏. I have been there recently. My ex pushed me in the streets because I refused to engage in an argument. He crossed a line and there is no coming back from that.

[@sarahalbers5555]

Amplified by alcohol and drug abuse. My God, what a horrendous, tragedy. Those poor children, I can't imagine what lasting impact their Mother's murder will have on them for years to come.

[@sarahalbers5555]

@@carolinaamnell5577 best move you could ever make. Stay safe.

[@dazenguile4215]

“she killed me first” he 100% remembered why he did it. dude is the most sane 4chan user.

[@kelsohky28]

DUDE I LOVE your channel, i love love love it, everything about it is great, the coffee theme mixed with crime has me immediately searching your channel every morning for a video to watch while i have my coffee. Thank you for being freaking amazing and talented. Keep up the awesome work.

[@mlmc9464]

What a remorseless pos. He is a vile monster, not an animal because they do serve a purpose. You said it completely. The world loses nothing by him being incarcerated. Those poor children, not only dealing with her murder but having seen her dead desecrated nude body photos online. I can only imagine the effects it would have on a young boy. There isn't enough prison time/torture that would ever compare to what he did to her. Just senseless and sickening him fully knowing one of her sons would find her body.

[@numero480]

Amber’s death was tragic but 4chan made it that much worse! He was a waste of breath long before he met Amber.

[@imclueless9875]

I dont see how 4chan made it "much worse". They LITERALLY didnt do anything except make fun of him. So not sure how they made it "much worse" at all, none of them believed it was real. So please do elaborate.

[@numero480]

@@imclueless9875 the pictures of Amber are permanent and can be used in other videos. His account was deleted but the photos were stored on other peoples computers. Ambers love ones saw it. Cops find it difficult to look at crime scene photos. I can’t imagine how the children felt.

[@KingRumar]

Yeah but that doesn’t put any blame on 4chan just as a random person going on KZbin to brag about their crimes wouldn’t put blame on anyone on KZbin. People chase clout online, they will post whatever it is to get it. 4chan made fun of him because you wouldn’t know if it’s real or not. I assure you, if you went to 4chan, you may get one or two wanting to save those pics but most in shock over the revelation that it was true.

[@oop6390]

​@@KingRumar 4 chan is literally a safe space for weirdos

[@numero480]

@@KingRumar unfortunately the children did see the photos. 4Chan needed to regulate its platform or make it impossible to copy photos.

[@NatalieBass209]

Thank you Adrian for speaking so clearly! Even though I’m from the UK and am a native English speaker, so often I have to use subtitles because of people not speaking coherently. It really makes for an enjoyable experience to listen to you.

[@ravenslair117]

Thanks, Adrian. You do an excellent job of bringing these often tragic stories to life. Your voice is very soothing even though some of what you talk about is quite gruesome. This is important to help keep those people in our memories and to hope for justice to flourish. I also love coffee and enjoy the coffee details. 🙏🏻❤️

[@strikers1944]

I remember this one, the screencap of the thread reactions when it was realized that it was a real death a few of them got utterly pissed off for essentially ruining this kids life when they found out the son found her body

[@MisterMeyhem-pi1fk]

It ruined all her loved ones

[@ashtontk-rw7mo]

4Chan sounds like the dark web. This is so bizarre and tragic. My heart goes out to everyone affected by this crime.

[@jdbaker82]

I truly mean this when I say it. Your intro to your videos is the best thing I have seen on KZbin yet. Keep up the high quality work and your channel will be at 3M before you know it.

[@lotsoflove557]

I love how kind, compassionate, and articulate you are.

[@ProfessorWowa]

Oh man, I remember that day, I was there in the thread, we thought it was a troll at first, I will never forget those images, the bruising on her neck and position of her body are burned into my memory. Dude was a monster even by our standards. The phrase "She fought so damn hard" always brings memories of those images, for some reason he thought we would praise him. We waited for the cops to get there watching in real time, waited for the announcement the cops took him out, but just like he was a coward who took the life of someone who trusted him fully, he was too much of a coward to end himself. Hate that guy, he killed her for no reason and left her son to find her then bragged about it to us like we would call him a king. He's a piece of shit even by our low standards.

[@elsiebackup-vf7vb]

I hope everyone on the thread heals and finds peace, that has to be traumatic man I could never imahine

[@DarkwingDuck1818]

Damn right anon, everyone felt that way during it.

[@frightfright3843]

Yeah right

[@swallowedinthesea11]

@@elsiebackup-vf7vb Her photos are still online elsewhere! I regret searching for them.

[@iam0lly]

Jeez.

[@juvyjanededios97]

I've been watching you for maybe more than a year now. I typically don't write comments, but I would just like to express my gratitude to you. You cover cases with great details and you narrate it in a way that it's easy to listen to. Your voice is also calming. Thank you so much for respectfully covering cases as well and making some unknown cases known.

[@refugeemorales8003]

I remember being on 4chan when this happened. Shocked me as a teen. Especially the photos.

[@earisan]

You are an excellent researcher, script writer and narrator Adrian! 👌🏼

[@troglodytez]

Was a total shock to see you cover this video, I live in port orchard right down the road from where this happened. I have friends who used to be roommates with David. True scum. I actually learned more about it than I knew before, so thank you for covering this, and Rest In Peace Amber!!!

[@maddisonbythesea3015]

I followed this case in real time. When he posted the photos I was shocked. First uncensored photos I'd ever seen of a victim. Horrifying that he left her for her son to find. She wasn't even clothed 😞

[@somuchfortalent]

Was I wild thread.

[@sniperjoe58]

here's one easy trick to improving your mental health: stay the fuck away from 4chan

[@reggielacey2235]

eh, you get used to it

[@grogsmashrock7240]

@@reggielacey2235 not really something people should get used to as desensitization to this shit can cause depression

[@reggielacey2235]

@@grogsmashrock7240 i dont have depression and i could care less about seeing a dead person

[@GermsOilCotten]

damn i remember when this channel only have a few thousand subs. good on ya. happy for you and your growth.

[@ylocoslovakia]

Thank you for sharing this horrible case. PTSD is a serious disease which the young boys could have growing up. RIP Amber

[@traybern]

PTSD is a HOAX. JUST like the BOOGEYMAN under my bed when I was TWO.

[@LibraInSeattle]

My parents had a house in Port Orchard on Rich Passage, before they retired and moved to Idaho. I hadn’t heard of this case before. How incredibly sad. The poor kids, having lost their mother is bad enough, but then to have been exposed to the graphic photos of her murder and know that your classmates are seeing the pictures too. That is too much.

[@sewgood568]

Such a sad case, a single action can devastate so many lives. The Internet has done so much good, but also normalised so much evil. Thanks again for great storytelling

[@kimbercoleman7089]

That is my town.. Never thought I would see it on Coffeehouse... Great coverage Adrian, as usual

[@marycorzette6562]

That SOB is a truly sick individual 😢. To make sure one of her children found her like this. WOW! People are the monsters in our nightmares☹. God bless that family ❤

[@laraoneal7284]

You always cover very unique and interesting cases, not the common super reported cases. You do incredible research and also add at the end ramifications that the entire families suffer post crime. You do such a great job that when I see you have posted a new vid I instantly go to yours versus looking at another creators upload. In other words I pretty much prioritize your content first. Ty so much for ur excellent content.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you Lara! I appreciate you!

[@drgnflylover0774]

The day I clicked I was hoping you were not just another boring true crime channel. I was so NOT disappointed.🌈 I appreciate your hard work & dedication. I look forward to your postings because I Love your channel ❤

[@ChloeLKhossmer]

This is why I distrust even casual edgelords. These are their most prominent representatives, and "edgy" online behavior/community discourse combined with unhealthy personal lifestyle and habits is an unsurprisingly slippery slope to stuff like this, regardless of how hard people pretend and insist it isn't. Unless you're an actual child/teenager, being an internet or real life edgelord is a critical red flag.

[@ChloeLKhossmer]

@@qtips1719 ikr☕

[@pliat]

I dont think anyone thinks this guy is a hero lol.

[@MidnightSonnet]

Above all else, i hope the dad was a good enough person to send those boys to therapy. Seeing the dead body of a loved one will mess you up. I, unfortunately, had to see it, as well, also at the age of 13. My father slowly died for four years from ALS. To say it was traumatizing would be an understatement. At around 3AM on Thanksgiving in 1995, mom woke me up and took me into her bedroom to see dad. It's an image that will forever be etched in my mind. Blue in the face from suffocating, mouth hanging open, and body slightly hanging off the bed. I even got to see him get zipped up in a body bag and hauled away on a stretcher. My mother told me she had a hard to deciding if she should wake me up to say my goodbyes. I really wish she hadn't. Even at 41 and with a metric ton of therapy and medication, those memories still haunt me. Unfortunately, that's how it'll be for those boys for the rest of their lives. With therapy, it can be easier to live with. PTSD is no joke. I wish those sons well. I truly feel for them on a personal level.

[@AcornElectron]

Keep up the good work fella and, as always, stay safe!

[@ByakkoProductions7770]

My heart goes out to Amber's family, I'm so sorry this happened.

[@MisterMeyhem-pi1fk]

Thank you

[@kathleenwisialowski4558]

Horrible situation. May the friends and family find peace.

[@ByakkoProductions7770]

@@kathleenwisialowski4558 My heart grieves for these innocent people. Our world is cruel and so is the rest of humanity.

[@ByakkoProductions7770]

@@kathleenwisialowski4558 Yeah!

[@mikkitikki1992]

I really like the way that you describe these cases. Very professional

[@Aliciapaige777]

Hey Adrian, I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your podcast, it is definitely my favourite, and by far the best true crime channel on KZbin. I recommend it to everyone.. I respect and admire the wonderful way you present the stories on behalf of the victims. Please continue with your channel., I’m your number one Superfan from Australia💛💛💛

[@DameWhoGames.]

Oh I needed this today. Adrian, thanks for what you do. Despite the content, you are a true comfort.

[@aarongipson7056]

That was the thread that got me off of 4Chan forever. I thought it was a hoax, all of us did at the time. Just horrific.

[@BBWahoo]

8chan was better anyway

[@svampebob007]

that's the "shit" I refer too when I say "I've seen some shit on the internet"

[@BBWahoo]

@@svampebob007 Aye did you hear about hotwheels bringing 420chan back

[@nicolerain3127]

A sad story well told. Thank you for another amazing video. I truly wish all of Amber's loved ones healing and peace of mind. 🙏🏾🕊💛🕊🙏🏾

[@MisterMeyhem-pi1fk]

Thank you

[@nerdydad1127]

First time viewer today and I have to say I love the fact that you honor the victims which I haven’t seen in a crime doc, i officially will not be going anywhere else, I applaud you and will be subscribing.

[@krystynarodowicz9878]

My heart breaks for those kids.

[@Justintime619]

It never ceases to amaze me with many of these cases the “red flags” that always come up that are ignored about people. What a waste, sad. What a piece of crap not only killing her but allowing her kids to find her… funny these cowards never follow through with unaliving themselves . They are narcissists, they won’t… Hope those children are able to find some peace.

[@kartyl1wielki]

It is really easy to see those red flags when you are an outsider. There is a channel by dr Todd Grande, he looks at crime cases through the lens of a psychiatrist and often explain why some might act like they did. Some cases were eye opening.

[@Justintime619]

@@kartyl1wielki I just mean 9 times out of 10, they have a record of being in trouble with the law, DV, Assault, something they are just not your average Joe Schmo that’s got a job and never been in trouble.

[@kartyl1wielki]

@@Justintime619 Well, I won't argue about that, I think you are right. What I meant is that sometimes people in relationships don't see those flags or (maybe) rather don't want to see them. You know situations like 'I can change him/her' or 'he/she isn't really that bad, they had troubles but really they are different' (which isn't true, most of the times).

[@pamelatenn2890]

Adrian, Thank you for Sharing this Horrible Case...I really Enjoy Your Narrating these Cases.Very nice Accent.Again, "thank You".

[@Thirdpunk]

I knew Amber and worked at the same place as her for years. This was so horrific and shook everyone at work. She was an incredibly nice person. I'm very happy you covered her story.

[@cdes1776]

You are so so right, Adrian, that unwanted images will continue to appear anywhere on platforms when least expected. "Unwanted" means many things to many people - the biggest for me is animal abuse without warning. Despite his "diminshed brain capacity due to alcoholism", this perpetrator knew what he was doing as he left many notifications and publicly posted photos.

[@michellementh9651]

Thank you for your contined content Adrian ❤ it's been an honor watching your channel grow and you deserve it all. You have the utmost respect for the victims and voice your opinions about the disgusting people that commit such vile crimes. I like that you don't dwell on the suspects too much.

[@janeenstiffler]

I worked with Amber. She was so nice and always had a smile on her face. What he did was atrocious but the fact that he left her to be found by her child is egregiously disgusting.

[@nancy9401]

Great Story Telling, Sir! Thank you! 🙂

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you so much!! I appreciate it!

[@heatherbowlan1961]

You have an amazing way to put all the cases into story and just tell them , strait , no fake , no fuss , just real, same as you use real pics , videos , if someone wanted a good example, they need not look farther , thank you for all you do . ps. I don’t think my comments are getting threw to your channel I don’t know if I have a button turned off , also two other channel I watch .

[@bout3fiddy]

I don't use AI generators anymore. I once entered a pretty generic prompt - something like "apocalypse". What I got back was a strange collage of images featuring humanish figures. Quite a few looked very young, and quite a few were nude or seemed to be in sexual situations. It was nauseating. I immediately closed the app and sent an email to support, as well as a copy of the image. I uninstalled after that, but I still can't forget those horrible pictures.

[@moominesque6081]

Another very tragic case. Great enunciation as always, Adrian.

[@simonetta-ta]

Thank you Adrien, for talking so sensitively and in an appreciative manner a/ Amber. I did not know her but it had a soothing effect to listen to ur kind words. Bravo e grazie.🙏

[@wojtekas2448]

Got this recommended weirdly early

[@EnterShikari090]

For once youtube pulling through for us!

[@lightKyubi]

Same

[@SoundOfOceanBlue]

Same 😅

[@dazpheonix]

Ditto

[@alysontveidt]

Me too

[@matsamnicfam]

Much love from Italy, Adrian... love your content and have been a viewer since you had 5,000k! 🇮🇹💖

[@SeaBlue1976]

Hello from Greece 🇬🇷💙,he is very respectful to the victims,have a lovely day

[@juliecreaser878]

“ She fought so damn hard….her son will be home soon ‘’. Chillingly, hauntingly, sad 😢

[@Annoye]

She should have gotten a dude not 6’2 maybe that would have helped

[@jenithompson5501]

Thank you, Adrian, for making this video and bringing the facts to this horrible incident. I have to tell you I was shocked when I turned the TV on, and there she was. Thank you for honoring my friend Amber. Also, thanks to your parents, they did a good job raising you in my mind

[@tiberius1837]

I knew Amber in passing. We were coworkers years before. Really sad what happened and a shock when I heard the news.

[@tiberius1837]

@@snicker576 no clue. Didn't even know she had them. That was news to me.

[@delta1symons]

Once more info comes out, I would love to see the recent Portland, Oregon murders. We have 6 murders within a 100 mile radius. All female, all brunette. Possibly a serial killer but possibly multiple killers!!!!! Thanks for all the stories!!!!! I love the way you tell these victims' stories!!!!

[@Findpepperbridge]

I get more and more scared of Portland day by day. Last time I went to Portland it wasn’t drug infested anarchy…. I’m not surprised there is a serial killer.. I heard there is a serial rapist called the viper that nobody will turn in cause they are scared of him… pretty sad.

[@wyldewoodcellarswinery]

Just saw about this yesterday. Hope it gets sorted out soon.

[@sarahalbers5555]

Sounds a little Ted Bundy ish. He liked brunette woman and was very active in the Pacific Northwest. Cold chill .

[@cats.addict6457]

That's definitely an horrific story... thanks for your excellent video

[@guitarbrad]

Excellent video once again!