The 6 Best Dangerous Game Cartridges - Madman Review

Dangerous game demands specialized cartridges with lots of stopping power and that are capable of penetrating thick hides.
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Today, we will be talking about something a bit on the extreme - cartridges for dangerous game animals. There are not many of them out there, which is why the rifles and cartridges for the job are not sold in some gun stores.
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[@DaveL9170]

The .375H&H punches WAYYYYYYY above its weight class.

[@bp814]

375 RUM punches harder...

[@davhuf3496]

On the shoulder!

[@franklinhayes8673]

There are plenty more cartridges out there with more power. I’ve reloaded for 30 years and the .375 is about the minimum you want to use on dangerous game. I actually deer hunt with a .375. Best cartridge I’ve ever used. Love it.

[@robertlosasso4222]

The 375 H&H is used mostly by professional guides in Africa. It is still held in high esteem by them and wildlife outfitters . By law in Africa it is the smallest caliber you can carry when hunting dangerous game .

[@jarrettpage706]

Depends on the country in Africa. Some that state a 375 H&H minimum will accept the 9.3mm cartridges such as the 9.3x62 and its ballistic twin the 9.3x74R ( my favorite). While on Safari my 9.3x74R actually outperformed both the 375 H&H as well as the 375 Ruger. I had 0 recoveries of bullets in the carcasses (to my displeasure as I really wanted one for a souvenir) and all animals were recovered quickly from one shot kills.

[@jerseycasull4546]

The guides use double rifles, 470, 500, 600, 700 Nitro express, 416 Rigby and so on not the 375 H&H magnum

[@user-uh9mq7ci2q]

I know a ex game warden from South Africa and he swore by the 375 H&H. He kill all the big 5 with it and I ask him why he prefer the 375 and he said it penetrate deeper than the other big game cartridges does. I think if I went big game hunting in Africa I would bring a 375 H&H.

[@freddydiaz8292]

Here in Hawaii we have wild roosters everywhere and they always wake up the entire neighborhood at around 5am, now i know which caliber to use thank you guys.

[@user-qu8pm3fs8b]

"I would rather have a client bring a .375H&H for Dangerous Game than any other caliber." Harry Selby

[@fimfengius]

Selby held the .416 Rigby for himself as a stopping caliber. My direct experience is that .416 Rigby is widely favoured and used by wardens, rangers and PH in Africa as a stopping caliber. World wide clients are generally not accustomed to these big-bore calibers in an adrenaline rush and therefore should gear down in order to be able to comfortably manage a follow up shot and also being able to hunt and shoot for a week or two in a row. Selby was probably right in his opinions.

[@markstout1864]

Id prefer the 458Lott for any animal.

[@bahubalbaba7886]

Most PH’s have kinda, like ITCHY FINGER & they tell the client to shoot on the shoulder which most probably would not drop the animal on the spot. Then the PH gets the excuse of a “back up shot“. That’s why Harry Selby wants client to be UNDER GUNNED so he can pop in a few rounds too. I would do the same too !

[@charlessmith4242]

@@markstout1864 * I don't know why Lott created his wildcat when he could have just used the .450 Watts, if he thought he needed more power. The Watts uses the same cartridge case only it's slightly longer. I believe both the .458 Win. Mag. and the .458 Lott cartridge can be shot in a .450 Watts chambered rifle.

[@markstout1864]

@@charlessmith4242 its an interesting story of why Lott came to build that wild cat. You should look into it. Short answer is, near death experiences cause people to do unusual things

[@jimmiefarris4218]

I have seen cape Buffalo killed with 2 shots from the great old 375h&h .The second shot was simply an insurance shot. Allow your PH to help with the charge stopping.

[@erichaun4529]

The 375 takes more buffalo in Africa than any other caliber. I also saw a write up by a PH there that overwhelming showed many more one shot kills on buffalo with scoped 375’s than any other caliber of his clients. His theory was the combination of scoped bolt rifle and moderate recoil allowed the average hunter to make a better first shot. I only take one rifle when I go on Safari and it’s the 375 for everything. Last trip I bang flopped a 45 inch Buffalo and took plains game down to impala. With a premium bullet like the A-frame it handles everything, penetrating on the big stuff and not tearing up the little stuff.

[@smithwesson7765]

The negative nonsense about the .458 Win Mag is just that. It was introduced in 1956 and is still one of the most popular dangerous game cartridges available. The days of clumping powder and poor ignition with the .458 are decades in the past. It's pretty much human nature to shoot an animal badly and blame the outcome on your tools.

[@metalmessiahmetal]

458 win should be powerful enough

[@Frog13799]

The problem was powder compression and sticky extraction due to incredibly high temps hunting in the zambezi Valley, got a few folks stomped and gored, the solution was to download it, the 458 lott was to overcome this.

[@ph4tboy]

​@thefrog634 with modern day powders this problem should be resolved. I love my 458WM. I don't think I need the extra power or recoil of the Lott.

[@DeanMk1]

The .458 was intended to put .500 Nitro power in a bolt action rifle. Clumping powder is not a cartridge issue, it's a powder issue.

[@peterwright4647]

I’ll keep my Lott thanks. Might get a 505 Gibbs someday but the 458 Lott is very effective.

[@jmfa57]

Both my .458 WinMag and my .375 H&H Mag are more than adequate for the paper targets I shoot them at, especially with handloads. Not likely that I will ever make it to Africa to put them to their intended use, but they sure are a hoot to shoot.

[@mattc5647]

Shoot some hogs or deer with them.

[@timbamler8964]

I just built a 375 acly with a 26" barrel, I hope to join you with being a hoot to shoot.

[@Mark-uq9km]

I do believe the .458 Win Mag is a .375 H&H case necked up to .458.

[@josephbyrd6642]

i didn't understand comment while dissussing 500NE "...you might argue the 460 weatherby is superiour, but there's a problem with the recoil, it will ruin our gun"

[@BuddWolf]

I’ve shot just about every round of ammunition there is. The big ones (.375 and up), are life changing 😳, they make you pay more attention than the other ones.👍🏻thanks for sharing the video post best of luck🍀 🇺🇸🦅🌎⚓️🇺🇸

[@billmcmullen5329]

I had a .460 Weatherby mag. A 500 grain bullet at 2800 fps has a tremendous amount of energy, (on both ends).

[@scottrackley4457]

I shot that rifle...once. Don't want any more of it.

[@earlelkins9086]

The 460 Weatherby needs a 50bmg muzzle brake. It (the 460) generates 8500lbs of muzzle energy if I remember correctly.. the 50bmg is in the neighborhood of 11000.. but 8500lbs needs more brake than Weatherby gives it. It WILL hurt you.

[@billmcmullen5329]

@@earlelkins9086 I had a .460 WM. It was not fun to.shoot. Mine was factory ported, but it didn't help much. The book said it had about 6 times the recoil of a 30-06. It was kind of fun on the range, I would fire it and the rest of the line would look around for who threw the hand grenade.

[@jamesm3123]

I have a 375 hh magazine. The rifle it is is weighs just over 8 pounds. That is enough recoil for me.

[@bsabes5750]

9.3x62 is my choice. 286 gr nosler partitions will go through most critters lengthwise. Or use a solid.

[@G19Jeeper]

It’s one of my favorites. I own two. A 9.3x66 is next

[@Drivapete]

The 9.3x62 is a great caliber for elk is about all my personal experience with the caliber extends. I shoot 250gr Nosler Accubond and 250gr Barnes TTSX at approximately 2550fps and the results are simply put....devastating! I haven't tried anything heavier for hunting yet, but have purchased Speer 270gr hot-cor, 286gr Hornady inter lok and 286gr Barnes Tsx. My rifle is a re-bored model 111 Savage from a 30-06 and is very accurate and a pleasure to shoot, kicks about the same as a 200gr and larger 06. Brass is easily formed from 06 cases as well. In my humble opinion the 9.3x62 should be included simply based on its versatility and effective uses on anything that walks.

[@peetsnort]

Its bidens favourite lung removing 9mm

[@JumboRacing1]

As much as the 9.3x62 or even 9.3x74R are great, they aren’t DG cartridges for a number of reasons. Firstly they don’t meet the legal minimum limits in some countries. However more importantly they are typically fine to hunt most DG with, but when things don’t go to plan, they lack the stopping power required of a proper DG rifle. So I guess that’s probably why they were not included. Having said that I love my 9.3x74R and have shot plenty with it……but when I chase Buffalo I want my 416 Rigby and up. The difference in punch is noticeable.

[@douglashelsel]

I have a beautiful 375 H&H and wouldn't hesitate to use it against any Dangerous animal on the planet, man or beast. Remember, shot placement is more important than bullet size. 😉

[@randyrush9856]

👍True. I used to subscribe to several hunting magazines back in the '80s. There were articles with photos of hunters with their downed game like Water Buffalo, Bison, Grizzlys, Moose and even Elephants, filling the pages of those magazines, and all shot with anything from 300 Win. Mag. to 338 Win. and all the way up to 378 Weatherby Magnum. And not one time did any of those animals get up and run off the pages. Go figure, huh.🤔

[@JonHunter80]

"shot placement is more important than bullet size" thats what she said

[@jacooosthuyzen9732]

.375 H&H will outshoot all of those in the video in terms of penetration, distance, accuracy with more than enough power. At the end of the day it's all about shot placement

[@francoisdumon4699]

That might be true for many cartridges on this list, except for the 416 rigby. And if you want real penetration, look at the .450 rigby rimless. Regular full lengthwise penetration on hippo and buffalo with 600gr monolithic solids

[@John_Redcorn_]

I believe the 416 Rig will def out perform the 375.

[@fishermansking1512]

.375 H&H Mag is still a common cartridge to take down the african big five. It's the smallest cartridge to hunt elephant legally in many african countries. It's powerful and take out big game. The recoil is easy to handle and it's excellent for taking long range. The common 270 grain ammunition I use, delivers 4434 Joule of kinetic energy at a distance of 100 meters into the target. .458 Win Mag in 500 grain delivers about 5800 Joule of kinetic energy at 100 meters. Unlike the old days of .470 NE, it's common to take a shot of about 100 yards in africa today and landing a vital hit before getting closer and risk your life by getting charged. Hollow point or soft point are also common now, because of the critical damage to organs when you hit the chest cavity. Today, precision at shooting and hitting the animal is more important than just the pure ammount of firepower. The best way of stopping a charging buffalo is a perfect shot that takes out the animal right away. In this situation precision is als aquired.

[@ericholbrook1733]

I have a .375 H&H and a. 416 Rigby. The .375 H&H kicks, but the .416 Rigby really kicks, at the shooting range... In the field, shooting at hair rather than paper, you never feel the recoil or hear the report. Experience talking. I don't have experience with the other cartridges mentioned, but I would trust my life to the .375 and/or the .416

[@jerseycasull4546]

Have you ever fired 450gr Woodleigh solids thru your Rigby, try it it's a blast. that's what I run through my Cz 550 safari magnum

[@davidpearn4344]

Yep got same rifle 450 grn woodleighs are a great bullets.I load mine to 2300fps certainly gets your attention lol

[@tertiusreed8228]

Honestly, I stay in Africa, and if I should choose a rifle for Africa, I'd have a .375 H&H Magnum. It's all you need, and it's very very versatile. Anything bigger is just overkill. Oh and it doesn't matter if your using a .375 or a 2bore double barrel, if you don't place your shot correctly on a elephant or hippo, your screwed anyway... doesn't matter the size.

[@francoisdumon4699]

Well it does matter. If you miss an elephant's brain by 1-3 inches with a 375 h&h, the elephant will usually run off. Miss by the same distance with anything .500 and bigger, and you stun and drop the elephant allowing you to place a killing second shot.

[@johnkertzman3223]

I have learned that there is no such thing as too big of a gun for Cape Buffalo!

[@Idahoguy10157]

How about a video on the lesser stopping cartridges? The 9.3’s, 375’s, and 338’s.

[@marcuspierantozzi]

For me you can not call these calibres "stoppers".. in zimbabwe the .338 is not even legal for buffalo and elephant.

[@danclay8229]

I can't really wrap my head around shooting an animal the size of an elephant. I don't know if I would shoot a rhinoceros. That would feel like destroying a church to me. So, that leaves lion, leopard, jaguar, cape buffalo, crocodile, brown/grizzly/polar bear. For these sized animals and ammunition availability the .375H&H is appropriate. I have always wanted a .458 Lott though. It has always been fun to talk about these things.

[@popman10001]

Love it keep it coming!

[@davidv.3135]

I have both a .416 rem mag and 9.3x62mm. I think I'm well prepared for big critters.

[@GibsonTick]

9.3x62 is such a great round! I have 2 of em. Might be my favorite cartridge of all time! Great accuracy, great killing power, and coolness factor off the charts.

[@jaymartin6475]

If I could pick a double rifle to carry in Africa it would be the .404 Jeffery. It was the go to rifle for wardens in East Africa.

[@johnkertzman3223]

So basically a 450/400 3 in?

[@Frog13799]

The 404 was used by wardens in magazine rifles, the beauty of the cartridge was it could be made to fit a standard m98 action

[@smokedbrisket3033]

Minor correction on 458 Win Mag - it was intended to compete against both 450 NE 3 1/4" and 470 NE. While 458 Win Mag never really achieved the velocity Winchester claimed it did early on, 1900 - 2000 FPS MV with a 500 gr bullet is more than adequate at dangerous game shooting distances of 10 to 80 yards. There are more 1-shot kills on cape buffalo with 375 H&H and 9.3x62 than all other cartridges combined. They're both quite popular owing to their milder recoil, which lends itself to more accurate first shots than the rest. For those who roll their own 9.3x62 ammo, or those interested in rolling their own...what the reloading guides say on velocity and what you can actually safely achieve are 2 fairly different things. Most 9.3x62 rifles have very long throats, meaning you can seat your bullets out to 3.32 - 3.34 rather than the 3.291 SAAMI spec that all reloading manuals show.

[@jk-kr8jt]

Nice video. Scratches the surface of "best dangerous game cartridge". The list is as long as your arm. But a fun "campfire discussion". Cheers, Jeff.

[@davidhowe7844]

My uncle used to have a .460 Weatherby and in a 15lbs rifle with a break on it the recoil wasn't much worse than a .30-06

[@edsmith9846]

I prefer the 16 mm canon mounted on the hood of D9 caterpillar. 😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@stephenland9361]

The .404 Jeffery is an awesome dangerous game cartridge. It is every bit as capable as the .416 Rigby. The reason the .404 was eclipsed by the .416 is because of American author and hunter Robert Ruark who wrote the book, "Horn of the Hunter". In it he praised the .416 Rigby used by his PH, Harry Selby. Sales of the .416 rose and those of the .404 fell. The usefulness of the .404 is verified by the fact that several countries in southern Africa equipped their game officers with Vickers rifles chambered in .404. They were used extensively in culling operations of both cape buffalo and elephant. When you're doing that kind of work, you need to KNOW that your rifle is up to the job. Another tidbit about the .404 Jeffery is that the greatest North American trophy of all time, the Chadwick ram (Boone and Crockett No. 1 Stone Sheep) was taken with this cartridge. Lee Sherman Chadwick did that back in 1936.

[@earlchesnut9017]

Can't agree with you the 404 is good but you have to reload to get 2400 which equals the Rigby

[@bp814]

Then Remington saw this and said let's make RUM. I have the 375 and love it!

[@marcuspierantozzi]

My list would be : .375 h&h, .416 Rem, .458 lott, .500 NE The .375 will take down anything with a good bullet and a well placed shot.. but its not a "stopper"

[@bp814]

What about the 375 RUM? Beats all but the 500 and runs even with it with a hot load.

[@jerseycasull4546]

How do you know

[@jerseycasull4546]

@@bp814 Why? a large heavy bullet doesn't need high velocity to penetrate and the rums of any caliber are barrel burners, Do you have any experience with the big bore calibers? It sounds like your posting just to fit in,. Stick to your 300 Win Mag so you dont hurt yourself

[@bluesman7475]

Where is the .470 Capstick? .475 diameter with 400 grain at 2500, 500 gain at 2400 fps and 600 grain at 2300. I also like the 50 Alaskan 535 grain Woodleigh (same bullet as 500 nitro) at 2000fps. I would add the 375 H + H to the list. it has done it all for over 100 years,

[@G19Jeeper]

No 9.3x62, 9.3x74R or .375H&H. Shame, those are some of the best and most popular in a lighter recoiling package

[@Drivapete]

I have a 9.3x62 on a Savage model 111 rebored from a 30-06, simply love the caliber and rifle. Very effective on elk with Barnes 250gr TTSX and Nosler 250gr Accubond bullets. This caliber should at least be mentioned in most dangerous game topics because of its versatility, ease of handling and the simplicity for reloading. Mine will shoot any bullet well with minimal effort.

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

My .458 Win Mag fits me perfectly and I can (and have) shoot it all day long.

[@IHWKR]

I've never had a problem hunting game with howitzers or tow missles and javelins. The recoil is more manageable too.

[@msa4548]

Not saying right or wrong with this list, the felt recoil you mentioned on some of them is the same as a stiff shotgun load. Not exactly the same as the .375 h&h but there are factory loads for the .375 Ruger that surpass 5000 ft-lbs at the muzzle. Though you are sacrificing frontal area. The .400 Jeffries is fathering a growing family now.

[@felixgoudeau19]

375 h&h Magnum can be underestimated - is also versatile - especially with 235 grain bullets for North American game

[@TheMormonPower]

I've shot a number of these rounds. The recoil isn't as bad as their reputations. The only one that is too painful to shot, is the .460 Wetherby. It's a true shoulder breaker.

[@brucepanny5010]

I disagree with that statement ... i must have fired over 2800 rounds of 460 weatherby and at least half of that would have been long distance shooting off a bench rest at baboons ... there is some recoil but nothing that is going to break bones unless you lie down and try shooting from the prone position, in which case you will wind up with a busted collar bone

[@ph4tboy]

@@brucepanny5010 can I ask what did the poor baboons do to you to warrant a 460 Weatherby LOL?

[@kraaidievoel]

Love the 416 Rigby

[@jerseycasull4546]

Load your cartridges with 450gr Woodleigh solids, YEA BABY

[@jimrichards1798]

I remember several years ago ordering some 500 grain .458 caliber Speer African Grand Slam Solids from a local retailer. He was stunned at the cost. As I remember they were well over $20 a piece at the time. I remarked that gauged against one’s life, they were remarkably inexpensive. Aside from being tremendous bullets, their relatively short length allowed slightly greater powder charges in the .458 Winchester Magnum. Sadly they have long since been discontinued.

[@gls2501]

Well judging how a friend of mine's 7mm Rem Mag with 174 Speer Grand Slams absolutely drops everything it shoots I can imagine those solids where potent medicine! The 7mm RM is considered a pea shooter for giraffe hunting and it dropped a tonne plus bull in its tracks with those bullets with a neck shot

[@jimrichards1798]

@@gls2501 They are tremendous bullets. I paired those .458 AGSS solids with 500 grain Swift A-Frames on Cape buffalo. I believe A-Frames to be superior to any other soft point, though the Grand Slams are very good. I still have a few of the African Grand Slam solids in reserve, though my days of hunting Africa are at an end. Best of luck to you.

[@damanifesto]

The Speer AGS series had a tungsten carbide insert, making them short for their weight as you describe. They're rare, and if you can find a seller the bullets alone fetch from 5 - 10 dollars each.

[@jimrichards1798]

@@damanifesto Back in the early 2000s, as I didn’t clearly state, just the bullets alone were over $20, but well worth it. I believe I have 4 left.

[@lurebenson7722]

Every time someone writes about limited powder capacity I believe as an advanced reloader and wildcat cartridge loader those who say such thinks don't have a clue what they are talking about because rarely is a rifle cartridge ever loaded with power to the top of the case. Some powders are making such High pressures only 3/4 of the cartridge case has powder leaving a wide gap between bullet and powder. I have leaded both the 458-win mag and the 458 Lott with 500 grain bullets then ever see these cartridges ever loaded with power to the case neck because these cartridges take powers that are High pressures.

[@donjennings9034]

The biggest cartridge I've ever used is a 300 Win Mag, so I'm not qualified to speak on this subject, but that's never stopped me before, lol. I've always thought that if I was going to Africa, I would want two rifles, one in .460 Weatherby Mag and one in .338 Win Mag. They just happen to be a couple of rounds I like.

[@tristanpatrick2202]

Should really have a look at the 450 Rigby

[@beckd02]

A phased plasma rifle in 40 watt range would do the trick

[@stephenblakely9608]

I have three 303 brit 404j and 505 gibbs ...the Gibbs is a step up but spend some money on fitting the rifle and indeed a decent recoil paid ...and relax ....

[@carlgomm9699]

I'm wondering about some of the old rounds that were chambered in the old Sharps rifles ??

[@johnkertzman3223]

The problem is with black powder they just don't generate enough energy! With a more modern smokeless load and modern bullets they would be capable!

[@andrewbrekke6739]

458 Lott is a brutal round still to this day only gun I have shot the I scoped my self on and I love heavy recoiled guns 500 nitro express is also a brutal one

[@davewinter2688]

So much crappola. All the professional hunters I read (Dr. Kevin “Doctari” Robertson example) say the 375 H&H is plenty good for dangerous game. 9.3x62 Mauser very close. The guy I got my 9.3x62 from grew up hunting in Africa. Now he lives in the USA , arranges African safaris and still hunts there. He told me that he has taken 3 Cape buffalo in recent years with the Husqvarna 9.3x62 that I got from him. His favorite is the 375 Weatherby Magnum because you can shoot standard 375 H&H in it and then you have perfectly fire formed brass for reloading in the Weatherby. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊

[@marcuspierantozzi]

I have been reading through some of the comments and I see that people are saying the .375 (or smaller calibres used by Mr Bell) are more than sufficient to kill any game in africa.. while I will agree with that statement,( only with the .375) it seems people do not understand the difference between taking a shot at a buffalo or elephant standing still and one that is charging! A charge is a whole different story!! The speed and agility of a wounded or angry dg animal will shock all of you! This is where you need, in my opinion nothing less than a 500gr round doing 2100 + fps. To stop a charge you need to hit the brain or spine.. if you happen to miss you are in big trouble. This is where the knockdown power of the larger calibres comes in. If you miss the brain/spine with a heavy calibre at least you stand a good chance at stopping the charge .. NB if any able bodied man cannot handle the recoil of a heavy calibre he doesn't deserve to hunt big game!

[@johnkertzman3223]

And also people don't take into account during Bell's days if he shot and wounded an elephant it was no big deal but in today's Africa if you shoot wound an elephant you're paying for that animal and you could be out the cost of your hunt!

[@lurebenson7722]

I am a professional hunting guide since 1976 with hunts in Alaska for Yukon moose and brown bears. You see allot of total ignorant people making the most stupid comments because they never been to Alaska and never seen the danger a Yukon bull moose can cause a hunter or the unwilling to stay down after shot a brown bear can keep coming at you even with vital organs wrecked. You see hundreds of videos on KZbin go used a 9 mm or 10 mm handgun to hunt Alaskan brown bears and every video has the same in common the moron making the video never in their life has been to Alaska and never seen a brown bear in wild Alaska and most often lives in an East coast state. I've had clients get their nerves rattled at the end of shooting a Brown bear with a large rifle then say to me what the hell why are people saying to use handguns on these bears?

[@user-me3er7lm1o]

Wow! You are coming across as a pretty arrogant person saying who deserves to hunt and who doesn’t. Ask any PH and they will tell you to shoot the gun you are most accurate with and you wont have any problems as long as you have chosen the correct bullet design and the shot placement is correct.

[@marcuspierantozzi]

​​@@user-me3er7lm1oso you will take your .22 on a buffalo or elephant safari because you shoot it well?? It has nothing to do with arrogance, it's plain and simple facts. What calibres would you suggest out of interest??

[@dancecaller]

I have 375 H&H, 416 Rem Mag, and by far my favorite, the 450-400 40]gr bullet at 2200 and far lighter recoil than the others, and yes, I've shot the 416 Rigby, 450Rugby, the 500 NE and the 470 NE, I'll take the 450-400 one and done one CAPE Buffalo, even Elephant. By FAR my choice

[@828enigma6]

What about hot loaded 45-70, 45-90, and 45-120? I'd image all three would work well on North American dangerous game with the right projectile.

[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

NO NO AND NO!

[@mjkpanda]

@Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOE! what can't you take with it?

[@mikehenthorn1778]

i have and have read Peter Capstick's " death in the long grass" and his other books. you left out all the Weatherby rounds. having shot the .378 mag i would say that would serve you well in any social encounter including light armour. there is also the 600 nitro and 700 nitro express. because why not give yourself brain damage while hunting? it is much like the fisherman who uses the lightest rig to bring in the biggest fish. sure you can do it but you have to be lucky and good to pull it off. so i pig hunt with a 30-06 and 308. either will handle any north American game. then again as Peter said " always pay insurance. what is the cost of a round vs your hospital bills?". if i ever went to Africa like a friend has, i would feel fine with 308 or 30-06 for what i would hunt. no jumbo or buff or hippo for me. just nice tasty antelope and the like.

[@cliffordbinedell6950]

My Mannlicher model 1910 is a 9.5mm x 57 - 375 Rimless Nitro Express

[@EUK007]

If i'll be hunting in Africa I will just bring .375 H&H and .458 Lott

[@michaelgover1519]

Lots of big bore options but I won't argue with the list. All Jen U Wine thumpers

[@mattsmash93]

I have a .375 Ruger in a 7.5lb rifle. What’s the felt recoil on that? lol

[@michaelkrafft84]

All the calibers are capable. The important criteria is, is the hunter used to the rifle so to shoot straight

[@user-vj9xx2dp2y]

I like the 400 H&H best of all shoots a 400 grain Barnes at 2350 feet per second with mild recoil

[@jerseycasull4546]

Holland & Holland never made a 400

[@user-vj9xx2dp2y]

I have a Winchester model 70 rebarrelked and re chambered into a 409 H&H. It shoots the 400 grain Barnes into 1/2 inch. It took a 45 inch Cape buffalo last year. It is great with mild recoil

[@jaybailleaux630]

458 Lott is the most pragmatic if elephant and rhino are on the list other than that 416 Remington for best all round. Just an idea on my part. Own neither and don't hunt dangerous game . Just a simple hand loader and gun crank.

[@dusty7264]

For Africa grandpa used a 375 H&H and a 505 Gibbs. 👍😄

[@sakostwwy1903]

I have no idea how you could leave either the 416 or the 460 Weatherby out of this list. Noone shooting any of these guns is worried about recoil and that is what brakes are for.

[@francoisdumon4699]

No, in this case thats not what brakes are for. As a ph in africa I have never seen a fellow ph with a brake on their dangerous game rifle. For a client maybe, but then we'd suggest you go with something smaller like 375 so that a brake isn't necessary. We (the vast majority of ph's and outfitters in africa) very much dislike muzzle brakes.

[@user-me3er7lm1o]

Using a brake on a guided safari hunt is extremely thoughtless regarding the rest of the hunting group and more than likely the PH will have you remove it. Even with hearing protection the brake will damage the hearing of those standing away from the rifle.

[@felixgoudeau19]

I would have set up the 458 win mag with 450 to 480 gr bullets- I prefer my 416 Rigby

[@retsukaio130]

You forgot the 700 nitro

[@chrisc2671]

If I was going to make the list is have 1 500NE / 505 Gibbs / 500 Jeffery. 2 450 Rigby Rimless 3 450NE 4 450/400 3” / 404 Jeffery / 416 Rigby 5 375H&H / 9.3x62 1 = perfect (if you can handle the recoil and weight of the riffle) 2 = my pick of the ultimate dangerous game all round cartridge unless you are a PH. 3 = a very good double rifle calibre, (shits all over the 470). 4 = adequate for every animal and much less recoil than the others 5 = not ideal but with the heaviest possible bullets is ok. Good for women or as a 1 gun for everything in Africa calibre.

[@GhostDragon907]

A brrrrrrfrikinbrrr! Awesome video

[@seventhson27]

The muzzle of a .500 Nitro is equivalent to BOTH barrels of a 10ga double. It WILL rock you, but, like one hunter put it, "It feels really good when you have a bull elephant charging you at 30 yards.

[@jimf3932]

You're right, Madman. The.375 is a minimum cartridge at best. Sorry that you left out America's 19th century express cartridges, the .50-100 and .50-110 designed for John Browning's 1886 lever masterpiece.

[@lennie8098]

@Mr. Cool And Black powder

[@joetamaccio9475]

The 416 r. Is the same brass as the 375 not the 8 mm

[@lurebenson7722]

They said 8 mm Rem mag which is made on the 375 H&H cartridges. The Remington 8 mm magnum is a super great cartridge and a shame it failed to gain popularity. When I owned a rifle in 8 mm Rem mag, I often used 300 Wby mag or 340 Wby mag brass to size to 8 mm Rem mag then fire form the cases.

[@clooperman3745]

404 Jeffery can be loaded to around 2350fps, matching the 416 Rigby at a lower cost, making it an excellent cartridge.

[@jozefhorvat3625]

At lover cost ??? Show me most affordable but reliable rifle chambered for each of them...

[@jozefhorvat3625]

And if you want, you can hand load Rigby to 2600 fps. Price for hand loaded ammo is similar.

[@davidchase1439]

460 weatherby gor really big game go up to the 905 caliber!

[@coalcreeker583]

Why wasn’t the 460 Weatherby on the list?

[@maf3656]

Hmmm . . . No mention of the .505 Gibbs?🤔

[@TheBudgetOutdoorsman]

9.3x64 brenneke or 9.3x74 R 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@QUINN5786]

UH HELLO .460 WEATHERBY MAGNUM!!!! ROY WEATHERBY DESIGNED IT TO PUT DOWN THE BIG AFRICAN 4 WITH 1 SHOT!!

[@brucepanny5010]

well said ... 38 years in Africa ... And i lost count of the number of times my 460 Weatherby saved my skinny backside ! ... Thank god for Roy Weatherby ... I literally owe that man my life

[@johncrosser8783]

375 H&H Magnum, 270 Grain, Check Camp Perry 1,000 Yards… Holds The Record!! 60 Inches High At 100 Yards… On at 1,000 Yards 😎

[@joshawageorge2122]

Lol you forgot the 505 gibbs

[@MarktheSharkC]

416 Weatherby is all you need for anything!

[@chunter9262]

My 375 H & H loaded with 300 gr sierra gamekings @ 2640 FPS produces over 4600 ft:lbs of ME which is more than enough to drop ANY game on this planet. Anyone who claims they need more than that has an ego to feed. A pass through on a Cape buffalo is a pass through on a Cape buffalo. The energy left in the projectile after exit is wasted. Find a round that will expand and dump all its energy prior to exit with ME minimum of 4000. The 300 gr game king expands to 0.75”+ causing a devastating wound channel. Happy hunting guys & gals Cheers 🍺🍺

[@gls2501]

I am going to respectfully disagree with you on two points. 1. The Sierra GK is fine for thin skinned game, but it is not nearly tough enough for thick skinned game. You will get lackluster penetration or a bullet that pancakes on impact. There is a reason not one single dangerous game load has that bullet in it. 2. A pass through gives you more of a blood trail to follow and two wounds that allow air to enter the body making it harder to breathe. The fact that the bullet did not stop doesn't mean energy wasn't dumped, it just means that it retained enough momentum to get out of the animal. Dangerous and thick skinned game hunting is a very different sport to normal hunting. Do not think what applies to one necessarily applies to the other

[@wesleyturner1979]

A pass through with a .375 could have been a better energy transfer and more tissue damage with a .458 at a lower speed with the same recoil. It’s all a give and take.

[@dougsadler5923]

416 weatherby magnum and 460 should be on here, ive shot the 416 weatherby mag...and holy shit is all i could say

[@arnocilliers5324]

Funny how many guys mentions the 375 h&h. Probably the guys that's been to Africa....I think it should be first (and maybe last) in the list🤷

[@tertiusreed8228]

I stay here, .375 is the way to go...

[@cesarecama396]

Always the 500 jeffery for buffalo and Elephant

[@nabajojak8734]

.416 Man Eating Lions🦁🦁🦁🦁 Cartridge .

[@brandonschriner6847]

I'm disappointed that .700 nitro express didn't make it on the list.

[@timbamler8964]

I think you need to do your research. A 375 h & h is a highly recomended rifle to use in Africa.

[@LaTaureau]

AFTER 30 YRS IN BUSH I AK HAD MANY CLOSE CALLS. THE 458 WIN. IS MY FAVORITE RIFLE AT 1900 TO 1950 ITS AN EASY 4000 FPS AND IS A BETTER STOPPER. AS AT CLOSE RANGE HIGH VELOSITY MEANS LESS PENETRATION ONE REASONS WHY THE THE 375 IS A TERRIBLE CHOICE UP CLOSE

[@jadamwagnerdc]

Where is the 505 Gibbs?

[@keegantripp1245]

What about 600 or 700 Nitro Express?

[@francoisdumon4699]

Ive shot both and my father owns a 600 nitro. Both are beast but the 700 is large and cumbersome, making it impractical. The 600s recoil is very manageable, and i shot it the first time at 16yrs old

[@charlesrainey6830]

What about a marlin 444?

[@massad028]

Sir, you would do well to give credit in your video to the author where this list and pictures displayed came from. Fair is Fair sir. Author and Ballistician Philip Massaro

[@rogerramjet7567]

375 H&H. PERIOD. IT DOES EVERYTHING VERY WELL. !!😀

[@codyjochem6761]

So where are the 600 and 700 Nitro express

[@jeanettewest]

.500 A-Square.

[@edwardpate6128]

Hey where is the 600 Nitro Express?

[@felixpalencia4547]

I like when talk on the videos

[@ronaldvoigt6761]

Well I’ve encountered nothing in the lower 48 that a standard 30-30 can’t drop with ease. Having said that I’d not go on safari in Africa with that carbine.

[@Heatherly3102]

Try me

[@ronaldvoigt6761]

@@Heatherly3102 from the looks of ya a spit wad launched from across the room could take ya off you're feet, what exactly do you mean try you? I think you might be watching to many movies.

[@Heatherly3102]

@@ronaldvoigt6761 sorry I have a morbid curiosity 😂

[@ronaldvoigt6761]

@@Heatherly3102 well take a guys word on this, a 30 caliber bullet will kill you. So keep to the rear side of the business end of one, ok?

[@Heatherly3102]

@@ronaldvoigt6761 I can honestly say I will listen lol thanks for the advice

[@philipe7937]

Makes my 30-30 look like a peashooter

[@benjimenfranklin7650]

You know they have been killing elephant with 303 British for more than 70 years.

[@johnkertzman3223]

Not trying to be rude but would you risk the chance of a $70,000 elephant hunt on your 303? Because in Africa if you draw blood you paid for that animal!

[@benjimenfranklin7650]

@@johnkertzman3223 In 1918 that was not a problem . I don't hunt elephant . Will the 303 do the job ? Yes it will ! It's all in shot placement and just how brave you are ! It's not for pussies ! They have used the 303 in Africa for many years and still do .

[@johnkertzman3223]

@@benjimenfranklin7650 but it's not legal for hunting the dangerous five in any country in Africa! And are you willing to risk your money in case you don't get your animal and just draw blood? Because in Africa if you draw blood and wound an animal you're paying for it! That and if you showed up from a dangerous game hunt with a 303 your professional Hunter would kindly ask you to use one of his rifles or your hunt wouldn't even begin and you'd be out your money!

[@johnkertzman3223]

I must correct myself the 303 would probably be legal for leopard hunting but I'd want to make damn sure I have good bullets!

[@benjimenfranklin7650]

@@johnkertzman3223 You know what I could care less I'm not going to Africa I'm not going to hunt nothing over there and you can kiss my patootie. All I was saying is in Africa they use 303 British to kill elephant and have for more than 70 years. Is you don't like it talk to the bushmen in Africa .🐵

[@dennisyoung4631]

All of these will have you hearing the fictional version of “Eleanor Rigby” - who is *John Rigby’s Niece.*

[@Colt-tf6xf]

Not starting with the .375H&H pretty much killed your credibility on the whole video.

[@johnkertzman3223]

Technically the 375 h&h is not a big bore and I think he was talking more about rifles for stopping dangerous game!

[@Colt-tf6xf]

@@johnkertzman3223 technically you're correct, however I remember reading stories about the.375H&H penetration being deeper than the.458WM in an elephant head. The opinion of the writers at the time still gave the.458WM credit for delivering more energy, but the elephants couldn't say😁

[@johnkertzman3223]

@@Colt-tf6xf I think at the time that was said modern bullets didn't exist and they were relying on old style solids! Yes the 375 is adequate for hunting elephant and any of the other dangerous five but it really isn't a stopping cartridge! If a 375 H&H was all the gun I had I wouldn't hesitate to take it to Africa to hunt dangerous game!

[@Colt-tf6xf]

@@johnkertzman3223 perceptive indeed

[@mountaingoat2340]

The video is not titled 'Big bore DG guns'. The author appears to cite big bore = DG gun only in his output.

[@FantomWireBrian]

Really depends on what type of guns you shoot . Side by sides are the first choices, even the 12 gauge 3" slug . I used my Barretta 626 for white tail . Very hard punch at 100 yards. I use 2 3/4 now and have hit at 100 hard enough . The side by cracks open shorter than an Over under. Open shut it's cocked and you know right away if you have a mixed round rather than finding it jambed in a bolt or semi auto. The 375 HH in a BAR I've heard picked before but no other autos . I had a Tee bolt in a Browning 22 it would be nice in a high power . Folding and shutting under stress is very falable. Side by side with a side arm. 😎

[@22vampyre]

Your story of Lott is incorrect.

[@Sokole81]

i have .450 Rigby and .505 Gibbs