The 6 Best Discontinued Watches From Seiko & Orient Watch

[@toolongforyoutoread6]

At Seiko Headquarters: "Sir, this watch is selling in the thousands. It's a hit with collectors and enthusiasts, who see it as a great value and an irreplaceable piece in their collection." "So I assume you have already canceled production." "Oh of course! And I destroyed the existing stock." "Good, good."

[@islandwatch]

LOL. You forgot: "and destroy all the tooling too"

[@summoning111]

😂😂😂 too funny👍 nearly pissed my pants

[@kaibaCorpHQ]

Probably want the legacy to age a bit, and then in 5 years or a decade to bring it back and watch it fly off the shelves. Either that or it was competing with another product, too expensive to produce, cost cutting, just not enough margins or something.

[@saltydog9321]

@@islandwatch I am new to watches, and i am seeing this, and i just cannot believe it. This is just how it is? They sell out of something and that's just the end?

[@jancovanderwesthuizen8070]

@@saltydog9321 unfortunately yes. It’s mostly a problem with micro brands, but even big brands sell out of stock. A lot of the time you can still find those second hand, just no more new ones.

[@arnason123]

Recently ordered a mako 2 pepsi from you , as someone who has watched your videos it felt more special than buying it from anywhere else

[@islandwatch]

Thanks so much, I appreciate that.

[@rp20832]

I found a NIB Spork at a mall watch dealer a few months ago. Did a double take going past the window, and almost threw my visa card after the lady at the counter. Much happy :).

[@waktosha7378]

rp20832 So I take it that you bought it? You lucky devil! I'm jealous!

[@islandwatch]

Wow, lucky ducky!

[@rp20832]

I figured that owning something, some people consider cool, makes me cool. Yes? Anyone? Bueller? My Blue Lagoon Samurai gets way more wrist time though.

[@petershallis2294]

That Spork.. Seiko were insane to drop that from the line up.

[@islandwatch]

Indeed they were.

[@drewsmith6066]

To much like a Rolex that's why.

[@petershallis2294]

Drew Smith Rolex what? A Submariner doesn't have numerals and an Explorer doesn't have a bezel..

[@JohnClarkW]

It was always referred to the as the "Seiko Sinn" because it looked like a Sinn 656 or sinn 856 with a dive bezel.

[@petershallis2294]

John Clark yes, that sounds about right

[@DonYenko]

What a coincidence, watching your video about the discontinued Seiko Monster while wearing the SRP313K2 I bought from you last year. I was lucky you still had some in stock, they were already starting to dry up back then. Love the different types of videos you make. Keep'em coming.

[@islandwatch]

Awesome, great timing!

[@samsudinabdulrazak247]

I have a Seiko spork..awesome watch.just love it.

[@FitOutPost]

Thanks, Marc, for this informative video. I must agree with all those 1400 people on your waiting list for the Seiko 5 that it appealed to me as well.

[@islandwatch]

Absolutely.

[@gabrieljilavu6289]

"We all want what we can't have - that is a tragically part of the human condition." this did put a smile on my face :))) that is wisdom right there

[@inabit1956]

Another great video Marc! For anyone wanting a 2 o'clock pushbutton for date setting, look for a 1960's to 70's Seiko Bellmatic. Great vintage watch if you can find one in good condition.

[@steven3379]

Wow! Yep that spork is nice! And the push day is cool too! Thanks Mark and Merry Christmas!

[@islandwatch]

Same to you, thank you!

[@diamonbacks47]

Mark, love the channel and all the content you provide. Thanks.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you!

[@bthivierge]

Must. Have. Spork. Geez Seiko bring that thing back please...

[@HRM.H]

Just bought myself a discontinued skx031 , full kit with the original bezel and crystal.

[@HarryUnchained]

Mark, you have the best job in the world (for watch people of course)

[@badegg2914]

Outstanding. I appreciate the time and effort you take to make these videos.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks!

[@salbriganti4880]

The SPORK is hands down one of the best looking and most legible divers Seiko has made.

[@MohamedSharif]

What would be the alternatives to these? That would be great to know.

[@islandwatch]

Maybe that's a future video!

[@karlsenula9495]

Definitely would love to find a alternative to the snk791 light/ baby blue.

[@Sirgromulus]

Videos like this illustrate why Marc and LIW is much more than just a watch seller. Marc is a teacher and student of the hobby and always provides information and education for novices and hobbyists alike. You can't put a price on this.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks so much for that!

[@canonyeo4286]

Great video as usual. Learnt so much from you. You are my man, Mark. Thanks a lot.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for being a fan!

[@elegomeskin]

' Who knows what goes on in the minds of corporate individuals '...so true...love your watches...I got one of your last Howards - what a beautiful watch !

[@islandwatch]

Nice grab!

[@mojomomo1475]

New monster just came out! Looks less monster, more refined. Very nice.

[@Zsolto66]

A great video again, Marc. The Spork is gorgeous and I was also on the hunt for an SNKL23 but I had to go for an SNXS79 instead. Another nice one with some great lume. Thank you! Zs

[@islandwatch]

Thanks.

[@themightysquid]

5 years later and I just picked up a SARG009. Fantastic watch. I can’t understand why they discontinued it.

[@tortugabob]

Seiko management is insane. That Spork and the last Seiko are very nice. I could see a 40mm version of the Spork selling thousands of units.

[@valueink]

Discontinuing the monster seems like a really poor business decision considering how popular they were. Such a shame.

[@islandwatch]

We never know what fuels the corporate books.

[@kyoukan91]

I own one of the SNKl23. I didn't know it was discontinued. It's an amazing little watch.

[@deaday]

Wearing the Orange Monster as I'm typing this. What a fun piece :)

[@islandwatch]

I love mine

[@ManishSahay]

Seiko Monster (SRP307) is the perfect "beater" watch. Unfortunately, I don't own one. I was lucky enough to get SNKL23, and a much better looking Seiko dress watch - SNX111. I love the Spork. I, too, loved the Diver, Pilot hybrid style. The other pusher gave Mako the "personality" :)

[@paulodr33]

Hey Mark! My local AD (in the Philippines) just announced that they will be having new stocks of the SNKL23 this May 2018.. It has disappeared in stores here as well so news of its resurrection might mean something for the US market as well.

[@ponce1968]

i have the same nato band that you have on that seiko monster. I enjoy your videos, very informative.

[@meltdowngrfx969]

Bought that exact Seagull 1963 from you and have it on the same vintage Bond NATO strap.

[@islandwatch]

Love the combo.

[@coldshadow3480]

Love the Spork. If they made a new version with a 6R15, under 43mm I'd buy it in an instant.

[@wongjefx980]

yeah.. little smaller, with updated movement, hand-winding, hacking, Sapphire not a big deal.. and yep it would be a really nice watch...

[@SkyBridgeRE]

Cold Shadow, I would be right with you on that

[@bobneutron467]

Sinn 857

[@imrinnahfaith5199]

Hey! This is not related to the video but I need help in removing links from my Casio DB 360 watch. I can't seem to find a tutorial on it. Thanks.

[@flippinzippo9670]

Since you asked for video ideas im going to ask you to include something.. Anything about the SNE245p1.... I know nothing about it, but it looks cool imo. I dont even know how old the thing is!

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for suggesting it.

[@desertwurm]

Wearing my original Pepsi Mako right now! One of my favorite watches! Did pick up a Srp583 for Christmas to make sure I have a 2nd gen Monster since I've wanted a 307 or 309 for so long and they are hard to find

[@islandwatch]

It's like hunting after endangered animals!

[@jmand63]

Great SEIKO models, but I have recently learnt to love so much ORIENT.

[@whatever3043]

Got the Seiko 5 snkl23 via Amazon.jp just recently. The total price was around 120 USD because of shipment and import tax...

[@LazyJacques]

Another great video, Marc. Quick question about the Seagull 1963 you showed during the wrist check: is that the 38mm or the 42? I'd wager the latter, but I'm pondering which one to order for myself. My 7 ½" wrist seems happier with something around the 40mm size, but I'm thinking the vintage style might work best by sticking to a size closer to the original. Thoughts? BTW, I like the NATO you have put on it; I ordered that one for my SKX007, and it looks great.

[@islandwatch]

It's the 42mm. Even on my 6-3/4" wrist, it works perfect.

[@XKCommander]

Aghhh, I want that Monster! Great vid bro.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks.

[@walterhart4651]

I have a Seiko Sport 100 ( 5H23-6030). Not working. Do you know how I can get it fixed. I live in South Africa

[@mings6744]

Thanks for the video. I don't recall you ever featuring the Orient Saturation Diver 300m, kinda like Orient's answer to Seiko's Marinemaster 300. I think that's one of the best looking divers ever made, but it seems to be discontinued too. Wonder if you know anything about that

[@islandwatch]

It was in my black friday video, the red one.

[@1701spacecadet]

The Spork is amazing! Why discontinue it?? It's got everything going for it.

[@tomasinacovell4293]

I'm glad I picked that SNKL23 up from you a few months ago, I'm going to give it a nice low-double-dome sapphire crystal. I sad to hear this about the monsters, but the Spork SRP043 must be 7S36 because I know the 4R15 hacks & stem winds too?

[@islandwatch]

The 4R15 hacks but doesn't hand wind, I think, from what I remember.

[@tomasinacovell4293]

You remember well, I had to look it up. I even use the SII NH36A's to replace and upgrade Seiko "5" class watches, and it's like the 4R36 et al. Some how I just had it stuck in my head that way. Sorry Marc.

[@itunes4819]

One of the future holy grail is the Orient Neo70 Panda, the perfect watch

[@ccooper8040]

Too tempting. Love your videos Mark. Please stop showing me stuff that I can't have.

[@islandwatch]

Sorry :)

[@mhz9003]

Oh man that Orient Moderno is stunning!!

[@islandwatch]

Best seller!

[@zixianyong1995]

Watching the video while wearing my snkl23😊

[@islandwatch]

Perfect companion.

[@DC-mu7nn]

I love the classic Seiko 5 as much as the Speedy. I hope it doesn't get discontinued in the rest of the world too that would be heart breaking

[@ksichelstiel]

LOVE that Spork!!! Seiko... please bring it back!

[@salbriganti4880]

Wow... SEIKO SPORK and SINN 857. TWO OF THE MOST LEGIBLE DIVE WATCHES MADE. PILOT MEETS DIVER.

[@mihaigeanta5110]

Hi guys! A question for Mark or anyone who can clarify me... How do you find out the fabrication date in a Seiko? Txs in advance!

[@akiole7356]

YES, a video from Marc and TGV in one day!

[@islandwatch]

LOL

[@helmiabdullah2271]

Love the spork and the Mako 👍

[@BrianHartman]

That SNKL23 is a gorgeous watch. I've seen it for north of $120, but I got the SNK 795 instead.

[@ryanjenkins6899]

I have the snl23. Managed to pick it up on eBay before the price shot up too much. It's a beauty

[@islandwatch]

Good catch

[@jerryjensen6430]

I bought my Spork from Mark. Sold it a couple years ago. Still miss it.

[@camberwellcarrot420]

If you like the SNKL23, check out the SNK793. It's a very similar dial, but blue. To me, it's an even more attractive watch.

[@Chris-de2qc]

CamberwellCarrot I discovered that blue dial last week and the pattern on it is beautiful!

[@perezjose7456]

CamberwellCarrot hello ther I don't know where to order a crystal for my movado bold can you tell me please

[@CFCseventy]

You could make the Shikoku sport Marc I’d buy one

[@1Eagler]

06:00 I really like this watch. BIG dials but day of the months ? Why? - I hate that I have to change it every other month.

[@MERKAMGCLK]

I have a Seiko SPORK. Did a Super Spork conversion. sapphire crystal, Sinn second hand, 4R36 action swap. Perfect watch now. NOT FOR SALE!!!!!!

[@bertkanne4572]

I'm surprised the Mako USA is not on this list. Other than it's fairly easy to replace flimsy bezel, it is a very well made, great looking, comfortable dive watch!

[@fazfaraday]

I missed my chance to get my hands on the Seiko SARG009 when I was in Japan earlier this year. In the end, I settled for the SARB033.

[@islandwatch]

Not bad still.

[@MrTeopantli]

snkl23 still available on amazon but way too expensive when compared to original price. the watch was also featured in an amazing video by TGV. I wanted one and was never able to find one. now i understand why i never got an email saying it was back in stock. shame. it is a gorgeous little watch.

[@chrisjarrett7228]

You missed the gen 1 Orient Ray. It also had the double pushers. Great watch!

[@melvinch]

I believe the Spork had a short production run. Bought it at around USD300 and sold it for USD600 20 years later.

[@aHigherPower]

I'm so disappointed Seiko has become a collectors company that caters to the secondary market hacks. I so wanted a SKX 035A yellow dial.

[@maxp5422]

What size was that 1963 on your wrist?

[@VictorC1891]

Mark i was curious and i checked out the SEIKO 5 SNKL23K1 Automatic, on my favorite watch store that i use all the time. And It says that is new stock and it's available, the price is 127$ but unfortunately for you guys they don't ship to US. So looks like Seiko is still making the model, but they don't ship It to the US any more.

[@islandwatch]

Yes, like I said in the video, the USA is no longer distributing them. I'm sure they will be back overseas.

[@VictorC1891]

I was just confirming your information's most for your US subscribers, hope you don't mind friend. I wish you the best from Romania !

[@ZommBleed]

another award-winning video.

[@islandwatch]

Wow, thank you!

[@williamryan6268]

SNKL discontinued in Indonesia as well. I think they did not want to make a lower cost and lower priced competitor to their own products.

[@Troacoli]

As I watch this video in January 2018, I'm actually wearing the SRP 309. Glad I bought it back in 2015. I have the exact same style of strap for it too, although mine is a NATO rather than Zulu style.

[@islandwatch]

Good grab!

[@Serginho153]

Are new model of seiko 5 still in production?

[@skipper_mtb6644]

Is the seagull any good? Do you know where I can get a display case back without any writing for it? Thanks

[@islandwatch]

I love mine. Sorry, don't know where you can get parts like that.

[@JICKY2.0]

I adore the original Orient Mako.

[@midnightrider379]

My first real Seiko was a jdm Vampire Monster and still a great watch

[@waktosha7378]

Tanner Peavler I wish I had gotten one! I have the orange one though.

[@islandwatch]

Love that one!

[@adamluzon9114]

Do they still make the Snze 81k1

[@12stringblues]

They need to bring back the 4r36 Monsters ...great watches!! One of the few watches strangers have complemented me on..

[@aharon613]

The Orange Monster just screams, "I am here to have fun, and I don't care if I get wet doing it!" An icon is an icon for a reason.

[@islandwatch]

Very true.

[@MrBacchus18]

I bought the black moderno from your shop last year. The strap was way too shiny and I figured out that I don't really like skeleton or open heart watch. Oh well I flipped it for a profit.

[@islandwatch]

Nice job!

[@ryancollins312]

I'm looking at getting a new watch and can't decide. Between the Orient mako xl or gigandet sea ground. Any suggestions?

[@islandwatch]

I love the Mako XL; I own one too.

[@ryancollins312]

Long Island Watch awesome thanks that's the one I'll go for I have heard good things.

[@salbriganti4880]

Mako XL is a sensational watch

[@disasterpiecemusic]

‘Hi! This is Marc!’... annnnd It’s gonna be a good night on KZbin 😎

[@JerryWDaviscom]

Yeah, the Spork is a winner. Want one. So is that '63 on your wrist, and the orange/black NATO on the Monster makes the watch complete.

[@JohnClarkW]

I almost bought a SRP043 in 2012. I was just starting back into watches, but wasn't spending much, and I couldn't quite justify the price ( about $250 ), and at the time thought it was too big. Now a 45mm that classy looking at $400 would seem cheap.

[@islandwatch]

Hot item nowadays.

[@jaguarguy67]

I have the Sports 100 Pepsi Bezel Orange from 1980. I still have the Box, and Receipt from Slavicks Jewelry. My Parents bought it for me for my 15th Birthday. Paid almost $300.00 it was on Sale. Which is about $800.00 in today's Money.. May I say the watch is in Mint Condition as of Today.

[@wongjefx980]

I guess some watches are unique, that even their quarks are OK. I think I prefer my SKX009 over something more advanced like the latest Seiko divers.. because I like the dial layout, even though the watch isn't hand wind-able, doesn't have hacking. That SPORK looks good... I like the date in the corner.

[@islandwatch]

Thanks for sharing.

[@TheVarskvlavtbichuna]

I have that Orient pepsi Mako on a mesh strap, looks great

[@tippersteffi1]

Are they still selling the Seiko SKX 173?

[@QAdeputy]

What about the Orient Day Date without jewel markers?

[@islandwatch]

Which one?

[@armandojuan64]

The SCH015 and the SNN079P2 . I was lucky that after two years of hunting , I found one SNN079P2 ( brand new ) with nylons , papers and box in the JDM .... no such luck with the SCH015 .

[@9876karthi]

38mm with open heart...that is dope

[@Markobass96]

I'd loove to get a spork one day, terrifically good looking watch

[@islandwatch]

It is!

[@erikrusso9808]

I love my SNKL23. It's the cheapest watch I own, but still my most worn

[@jefferyneu3915]

Now I am even more glad my wife gave me an SRP309!

[@jefferyneu3915]

I can’t understand why Seiko would kill the SRP309. They seem to be skyrocketing in value. To my simple mind, the screwed up.😱

[@waktosha7378]

Jeffery Neu I'm glad I got one!

[@islandwatch]

Who knows, maybe something new is coming.

[@scienceisgod1]

Aggreed. The "spork" is a classic

[@sms042]

love the looks of that "spork"

[@islandwatch]

Me too :)

[@brianmsahin]

Would you believe that right now, 3 years later, the SNKL23K1 is actually still for sale in İstanbul, Turkey....... for $140 equivalent...

[@thegeneral123]

Curious, why your gloves have the blue dial on?

[@pantheraleo2490]

thegeneral123 I think it’s his company logo

[@thegeneral123]

Ah yes, I just noticed that. Feeling stupid now.

[@islandwatch]

Merchandising! Like Yogurt from Spaceballs.

[@minecraftpedo698]

luckily i got a seiko snkl23 from a dealer on ebay i checked and it's been discontinued since 1/1/17

[@islandwatch]

Yup!

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

Thanks Mark.

[@islandwatch]

Thank you.

[@jmand63]

In watches' companies there are sometimes a lot of irrational decisions. A designer being replaced by another one. A Commercial Director deciding that he has to make a print of his "reign" and then suddenly, you see models "written off" the collection. That might change, but you never know then WHEN and IF it is coming back to the brand's passionate/ lovers/followers, (aficionados).