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[@bigsmooshflopdong33]

Oh god, another Seiko complaint video. Let's just face it when these came out most of us weren't nearly as knowledgeable about watches, so these were cool and hold a place in many collectors hearts. Pricing going up is a dumb arguement, everything in the world has gone up in price and there is always supply and demand, the sarb017 was far more popular than anticipated, as a business owner you would've raised the price as well. Seikos quality control has never been stellar. These are just biased opinions that really don't really hold any weight. My rent has gone up 100% in the past 5 years as well.....

[@roziroslan7891]

Agreed with u bro...skx need to be discontiuned as Seiko need to push their mid range actual divers watches..5kx sports is not the skx diver replacements.. they are a sports theme watches with upgraded movements using the 5kx base only. Errmmm..

[@4by_yotaguy373]

100% rent increase is wild! Wait...my rent went from $800 in 2015 (that was upscale in my city in CA) to $1500 now. This fvckn blows! 😢

[@rccdesign]

I would not mind the price increase if they wouldn't refuse to do some long needed upgrades (glass, bracelet clasp, signed crown) and QA. Hardlex on 400$ watch? Come on! Chinese watches have shown that sapphire upgrade costs like literally 20$. How can Citizen release ISO rated diver that is cheaper than Seiko 5?

[@L2HfT]

I got this SARB017 and SARB033 in 2020 from a small shop in Tokyo. They had 2 last pieces. The best buy I have made! Love them both, so versatile.

[@gold6813]

That’s crazy. The SARB 17 was going up in value way before that. And theurbangentry predicted the price rise or help create it

[@mwesten3444]

Good find. I also pick up three of the SARB017 as availability was winding down, $375 each.

[@tiagodvt]

Citizen is doing what Seiko used to do. You can still get a true ISO diver for under 200bucks with the NY0040. You can still get a NB1050 for 450ish, which is a better SARB033. They are killing with the Tsuyosa line of integrated bracelet sports watches. They are coming out with a true GMT as well.

[@toddgaak422]

Yup.

[@MichaelTravis12c27]

I recently bought a Citizen Automatic Divers 200 Titanium for $568 after tax, direct from Citizen. I absolutely love the watch. I'd argue that Citizen is still providing the bang for buck that Seiko used to provide.

[@user-zx5yd4cf3y]

Your Citizen kills any under $1k Seiko

[@MichaelTravis12c27]

@@user-zx5yd4cf3y agreed

[@OscarOSullivan]

A blue dialled NY-0040 Promaster diver is the watch I hope to get for my 20th birthday

[@kevinh5349]

I'd really like to see Citizen, Bulova, and Casio turn their attention to automatic and manual wind watches. I just can't get into quartz, no matter how nicely it's packaged. although the mechaquartz and higher frequency stuff has possibilities.

[@steevkeyes]

Citizen is a full tier above Seiko on all measures. Citizen excels technically on: eco-drive, hand and marker alignment, accuracy, adjustable bracelet.

[@Thetdgross89]

You could just title this video "inflation happens". Its crazy to think that their watches would not go up in price.

[@chipi1972]

I bought the prospex version from Japan for $600 with the green dial and let me tell you i love this little watch I wear it with everything. Definitely worth the $600 I paid for.

[@JLynnJohnston]

Back in 2017 I OBSESSED over which automatic watch was going to be my first to purchase, knowing full-well I was going to be diving down a very deep rabbit hole of a hobby. Went with the SARB017, and 20 timepieces later I'm still very proud of my first decision. Love this thing!

[@Alan-cl2ix]

Dispolsable watches, a 110 dollars watch is costing me 140 dollars to service, now think about it if you decide to do that service every 3-4 years as Seiko recommends but even if it stops working after many years it will still cost me that money if not more to service it. Would not wear a mechanical as a daily for this reason, I've started to appreciate quartz watches for daily and wear mechanical only time to time otherwise it's a money hole, costs more than a car for maintenance.

[@nerychristian]

@@Alan-cl2ix I've never services any of my Seiko's. They are still running fine.

[@lihaniska87]

@@nerychristian As a watch collector myself i would say that if its not broken dont fix it they run just fine but the backplate have to be super tightened so anything shit and dust to go inside movement

[@typedeaf]

I used to ask jewelry stores if they carried the Grand Seiko. They would either say they have no idea what that is, or some smug response like, "Maybe go check Walmart". People are now realizing that the movement and detail in those watches are top game. I just hope that doesnt change prices. I have a couple Presage but they arent that great.

[@W.Edwardovich]

You nailed it. Like everyone else commenting, I’m just glad I bought my favorite seiko pieces years ago. I’m still rocking my SARG009 5 days a week

[@gnus88]

Same here!

[@Kenzabukuro]

I'm with you 100%. This week to work I wore my SARG009 three days, my 6309 diver from 1980, and a 1968 King Seiko. The SARG/SARB era was the end. They don't make much new cool stuff.

[@justicelaw4498]

He didn't nail sht. I nailed his momma

[@nerychristian]

Luckily I kept a SARB065 in my collection that I never wore until recently. I will never part with that watch. I also had a brand new SARB035 that was brand new in box. But sadly I sold it because I needed the money.

[@cylentone]

Seiko has slotted Orient in where Seiko budget watches used to be and are now trying to compete in niches with a higher price point. Grand Seiko will remain competitive in the luxury sector, but in between the two price ranges, it will be interesting to see what happens with Seiko.

[@nerychristian]

I wouldn't mind that. But unfortunately, Seiko continues to make some shitty low tier watches. I wish they would focus on what they are good at... Making nice dive watches.

[@prfzcat]

The SPB121J1 for 690£ is still great value for money. 70 Hours power reserve, 200m water resistance, automatic and overall great durability with a stunning face (and I personally prefer the see through back)- it’s a steal! Find me a watch with similar specs for the same price in today’s day. Tissot’s watches which are more expensive produce similar specs but less overall durability.

[@simonthomas5113]

I have three Seikos and I love them, but every time I see a new one that interests me I'd need to spend £600+ to even get a sapphire crystal as a starting point, so I'm on the Orients and I just view their range with passing interest these days.

[@hughmckendrick3018]

Lucky enough to own a Sarb017 & 035. Fantastic watches, both punching way above their weight. Wish I had the wit to have picked up the 033 when it was around at the same price point.

[@pk464]

Love my 017, 033, and 035. The (SPB143)SBDC101 for $800 is a current winner in that category for me being a seikoholic. I’m stoked on my 55th anniversary remake. But it is a shame they couldn’t have just kept making the sarb and skx lines and just increased those prices. They could have done so much with both references.

[@nerychristian]

They will probably release a limited reissue of the SKX, but charge you around $1500 for it.

[@Shaggy-8392]

I bought the new alpinist in sunbeam forest colour with the cyclops. I would have preferred the non cyclops model but I do like it. Looks lovely in the light. Build quality has been great. It was that or the Hamilton Murph but when there was a sale at half price I just had to get it. Got it for £340. After the sale the watch disappeared and has now reappeared at £660. Still got my eye on the murph though. But it's never on sale!

[@derekobeirne4137]

Seiko’s main problem is the sheer scale of its offering and it’s attempts to be all things to all people, addressing the requirements of all budgets.

[@patrickmurphy3179]

Reminds me of Toyota. Not in a bad way, however.

[@nerychristian]

Seiko should stop producing any models they currently sale for less than $400. Most of those watches are trash anyways. They should just focus on their higher end dive watches, and a few nice dress watches. They should leave the low budget watch market to Orient, Casio, and Timex.

[@SamrayGTR]

I still have yet to own a new Seiko post 2019. I have the SARB017, SARX033, and Turtle SRPC91 Save the Ocean 2018. However the modern ones I do like and would consider; SPB143, the newer Black Alpinists, and Red dial Sharp Edge series.

[@user-gl7cs3dj4y]

Has been my go to beater watch for the last 4 yrs. The original strap still looks great. I hope it lasts as long as my last beater watch that I purchased in 1977..... a Seiko Pogue.

[@wbwills2]

Hope you are having a good afternoon…1977. That’s a while ago.Time flies…Thats a fact!I don’t know very much about watches in general.Especially automatic watches but I ordered one because all these watch collectors on KZbin said it was such a great bargain for all the features you get for the price (Boderry voyager field watch, with a pretty popular/good quality??Seiko movement inside of it.?.?$96 USD on Amazon after taxes)I reside in NC Sandhills, USA & do a lot of outdoor activities in & around salt & fresh water.happened to see your comment and figured that since this is a recent video + you have owned automatic watches since at least the 70’s,you might be the right person to ask ,”do you think I bought a good watch that will last a long time without any problems?” The only watch guy on here that seems to really know about watches that attempted to take the back of the watch off to look at the movement/action ,has the right tools and knows what he is doing but couldn’t get it open to take a look inside,was the little Baldheaded guy with a British accent (can’t think of his channels name right now but I think you probably know who I’m talking about.?.)So I surely won’t be opening it or know what is inside of the watch..Any opinions or information that you can give me about what I can expect as far as longevity without having to try and find someone to service it(IDk if that’s possible & if so most likely more expensive than buying another watch.?.?),or anything else that comes to mind about the watch I bought would be great ..I haven’t worn a watch in years (last one was a digital timex iron man that I needed for work. I was a dental lab tech at that time and needed a watch with multiple alarms ,timers & was also waterproof.I was mixing small batches of all sorts of materials for very specific amounts of time,washing mixing bowls + had multiple other things going at once all over the lab,in ovens at very specific temps/amount of time ect.There were timers on some of the equipment + I had additional timers here & there,for backups but it gets loud In dental labs at times & I was all over the place in that building. If I didn’t have my own alarms with me at all times, I could easily forget about something & have to start all over. Even with the alarms I’d occasionally miss something & ruin it…You get the point.That was a long time ago.Back in the early- mid flip phone days .not as easy to set alarms and didn’t matter what kind of phone it was…no good if it’s in my pocket or sitting somewhere else. The inexpensive timex did the job well for around 2-3 years ,battery would start to die,throw it out & get another.lately I have been leaving my cell phone behind every chance I get .It feels liberating .Tired of always relying on a cell phone!!BUT… I still need to know what time it is. Went to the coast with friends a couple weeks ago,noticed an old good friend of mine had gotten a new watch(he’s sick of the constant phone thing too)The one he went with was a citizen eco drive dive watch.His wrists are bigger than mine,it looks nice on him.That brand has a good reputation as far as I know .He said it was good so far & I respect his opinions . Hes always had good taste & gets nice things with out paying too much & he’s mechanically minded type ..A smart fella all the way around. So, I started looking at A few different Citizen eco drive models before I came across the one I ordered. The idea of automatic & having nothing that’s battery operated on me at all seems like a good thing.And I have followed my friends lead with all sorts of things in the past.He’s yet to send me in the wrong direction when I ask him for his advice. Want simplicity,decent quality & plan on wearing it 24/7/365 on the underside of my 7.25” wrist .That’s what I did with the timex.Rarely took it off. The watch will be delivered early-mid September..I won’t know if I will even like it until I get it in hand & try it out .If it turned out to be uncomfortable,loud or anything else I couldn’t deal with or get used to,I can return it. I apologize for the long drawn out question. I have taken enough of your time. I don’t buy many things for myself but when I do I like to be an informed consumer & get something that’s worth the money that I enjoy. Keep the Boderry if I like it when it is delivered,or spend some extra money on aCitizen or something else all together.?.thank you in advance & I hope you see this.took a while to type…On this PHONE..!.must put it down now!!hope you have a good evening. WBW II

[@G1NZOU]

This was the first mechanical watch I bought along with a Seiko 5 at the same time period, still one of my favourites in my collection. Green happens to be one of my favourite colours so it tends to go well with a lot of my outfits, blending with browns and contrasting well with reds, and the shape of the case makes it slip under the cuff quite well for its size. My favourite thing about it is the versatility of it, I've worn it on holidays before up in Scotland or when boating in Norfolk and it has both the active specs to be able to be worn while sailing or mountain climbing on a NATO, while looking stylish enough that it looks great worn on leather while sitting in front of a fire holding a glass of Scotch. It fits into a niche, but it's absolutely my niche.

[@G1NZOU]

I do wish the newer Alpinists continued the Alpinist logo, either on the dial replacing the Prospex logo or on the caseback like the SARB017 has, I understand they maybe want to simplify their brand range offerings but Alpinist is one of their iconic brands and it shouldn't die. I do still think you can get some decent bang for buck with Seiko though, I haven't bought many newer Seikos other than a Sakura Fubuki cocktail time Presage (but I did buy a new stock OG SARB065 as well), a SARW019 Chocodial (current favourite), and an ice frost Mini Turtle (my watersports watch), but I see a lot of priee increases with certain newer Seiko models without a justifiable improvement, Seiko used to be the king of value to quality ratio, but some of their newer models seem like they're resting on their laurels rather than fighting for that key position of bang for buck.

[@bronovalter391]

That's a beautiful watch! I love the green dial with the NATO strap. As I type this, I'm wearing a plane jane Seiko 5 from 1967. I love vintage Seikos and have many of them, including quite a few quartz models. The early quartz movements are a thing of beauty, and I get to see them every time I change the battery. Collecting Seiko vintage is relatively inexpensive, compared to other brands. The 5 that I'm wearing and love so much, was $20 at a thrift store (covered with grime!). It won't impress people like a Rolex, but it impresses me.

[@Laennec568]

Glad i got the spb089. Seiko downfall stared when they discountinued SARB017, SARB033 and SKX007 ans

[@Jones-xx2gc]

After a few Seiko 5 watches this was for me the first relatively expensive mechanical watch I bought, the green dial did it for me. Currently languising in a box somewhere after a house move. After this great video, it will be on my wrist tomorrow.

[@matthewbessey681]

I consider myself lucky that I own a sarb017 and skx011 and wish I’d have picked up a sarb033 as well when they were readily available and affordable as nothing Seiko produce currently equals the bang for buck of those watches or the iconic designs.

[@riseuplight]

I bought a SARB033 in like 2016 or something and will never let it leave me

[@Str8baller32]

Absolutely spot on I wish they would come out with some more affordable awesome pieces, I too have a sarb017 as well as a sarb033, sarb035, and a skx013 and they are the most worn out of my collection because the specs on them are amazing and classic

[@sammyh.8563]

I haven't had a hands-on experience with any Seiko Prospex watch, but the Seiko 5 series improved over time IMO. Enhanced movements, less cheap bracelets, good finishing for the price, etc. Take the 5kx for example, most people would not need a 200m watch, and the screw-down crown would be more of a hassle for most people. It keeps the charm of the case shape and size while modifying it for an average person's needs. Want a dive watch? a G-shock should do. Inflation has taken its toll on many things, and Seiko is no exception. Seiko isn't quite falling off, just modifying its catalog for a different demographic. Edit: I just bought a new alpinist, totally love its looks.

[@lawncrow]

One point of contention on the screw down crow/lack there of, the push pull crown on the 5kx is really hard to pull out sometimes with the grip pattern being the way that it is, and I think a screw down crown would help it a bit, but that's a little bit of a nitpick.

[@slayergut]

​@@lawncrowI actually prefer a push pull crown though. Screw threads wear down over time and I've had a couple older watches which I needed to get them replaced. I don't even NEED the screw down crown. I don't swim w my watches on.

[@mywatchesdiary]

jory talking about the downgrade, downgrade with higher price. Not talking about people would not need a 200m watch. the context, open your eyes, seiko is not fun anymore

[@RenghisKhan]

Orient is a division of the same company as Seiko and yet they haven't bumped their prices, they are still a lot of bang for buck. So I doubt it was 'necessary' for Seiko to up their prices this much, imo it's just a case of making MORE profit. It's become a no-go watch brand for me.

[@slayergut]

@@RenghisKhan i believe it's a move to "raise" Seiko to a higher perceived brand status. Its not logical but the general public considers more expensive products to be better, regardless of actual quality. Seems like Seiko E. is keeping Orient as the affordable enthusiast brand, and Seiko with it's more widely known brand name to a high priced brand and attract the general public. They don't want Seiko to be seen as "cheap" anymore.

[@joespart4782]

Totally agree, I’ve loved seiko for over 30 years but ever since the changes a few years I no longer recommend seiko as a bang for your buck value watch .

[@marvean2519]

The price increase is a true bummer. I really like the baby alpinist though. Still has a threaded crown 200m WR and I really don't mind the PX logo.

[@12stringblues]

2015-16 I started to collecting Seiko's, you could find excellent watches for $100-300. I have kept the my favorites and wear them regularly. Some issue I've had are the Hardlex Crystal sucks (easy to scratch) compared to Sapphire and you usually have to upgrade the strap to evenly complement the case/dial.

[@kodiakc6227]

Shout out too Citizen! My first and only dive watch is a Promaster Eco Drive Diver. It's iso rated and very durable. Bought it for sale for 190 dollars.

[@LucianoCapocci]

Even though I absolutely adore my green Alpinist 1959, I completely get your point. I don't think Seiko will ever go back to what it was before, but here's to hoping they at least get better with pricing over time PS the only thing that annoys (yes, annoys) me of my Alpinist 1959 is the screw down crown. I don't use it all the time so I have to keep winding it, making unscrewing the crown a constant hassle. Apart from that, I really love it, exhibition caseback and all!

[@WinWithZach]

Here I am contemplating selling my Sarb017 and you go and make this video. Thanks a lot! 😂 I may have to hang on to it.

[@reedgrabowski8314]

I have been contemplating selling mine as well. I need to trim my collection down to what I REALLY WANT.

[@drgunsmith4099]

Looking at the price that the sarb017 is fetching now it’s definitely a keeper and mine is still my favourite for some reason and I absolutely love it for reasons I can’t explain, she’s just got so much charm. I have the newer version and it’s no where near as appealing in my eyes.

[@BrianMiller-yg6dp]

Just picked up a SRPE37 with the white dial and I love it.

[@jazzman5598]

Good vid man. Zelos floats my boat! And after I put an Erster bracelet on my Sarb 017……..wow!

[@BrianSinai]

So true. Looking back at the value that was available it seems like another world. I picked up an SNK809 for 50 quid back then and I just saw one on Amazon for 300!!

[@Dochorahan]

I have a SARB017, the first gift from my GF (now wife) to me 8 years ago. It's been serviced and still worn regularly with others in rotation. It's in my permanent watch collection for sentimental reasons but also for its perfect size, unique look, and 200M WR. One of my favorite watches ever regardless of price and will never leave my collection even though I've acquired Tudors and new Omegas (among others) along the years.

[@PaulVonRieter]

I started collecting with a Sarb017 & Sarb065. Love them both, but I feel like there is nowhere else to go with seiko other than a skx or flighty. I keep eyeballing some of their newer offerings, but nothing really holds my attention. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@arindambasu9850]

Bought the Alpinist and the sarb 033 the year before they got discontinued and prices went crazy. Love both of them and they are absolute classics.

[@scoth2930]

I got mine around 2014. I don’t know how many times I have had comments on what a great looking watch it is and I have literally had people stop me and ask if it is a SARB017. It is a legend. PERIOD

[@tico481]

I still love my Sarb017, but my daily has been the Big Crown Pointer Date for a year now.

[@antyvirusuk8056]

Orient needs their answer to the alpinist

[@carllange3950]

Forty years ago, all my watches were Seikos. When I really got into watches in 2019, I bought a few Seikos, but have given them away or will sell them. I prefer my Bulova, Casio, Citizen, Glycine, Islander, Orient and Timex watches. Recently, I have purchased four Zelos watches, which has altered my expectations in the $430 - $850 range. I would like a Seiko Spring Drive, but like the Accutron Electrostatic drive models, the prices just seem too high for me.

[@Psysso]

Once you get a Zelos , you feel like every seiko below 3 grand is a robbery.

[@franciscolopez8331]

Agree and you forgot to mention the endless list of LE they released afterwards Each one with a more sticking dial and a higher price tag And been snatched in seconds and flipped on eBay for x more So now the Sarb017 used and beaten up sells for more than an SPB121 Seiko has killed my appetite for an Alpinist and left me feeling so annoyed that I didn’t buy one prior to it getting discontinued This said I’ll probably buy an Alpinist eventually if I find a gem at a decent price Excellent video

[@mizeni]

I'm with you - the green dial is definitely a nice feature, giving it character. Shame about the Prospex re-branding (much as I love Prospex in general).

[@silverfunnel6819]

What do you think about Astrons? I I own a SSE093 and still happy with it.

[@sheisty1753]

You’re 100% right about the pivotal moment. I’m still in love with Seiko. But I’m being tempted to ask for a divorce… In therapy as we speak.

[@onewatchjustisntenough]

I think most people forget that under $500 you can get a very nice turtle or a Samurai and or even a monster that has everything that the skx had and looks better and are made better and don't forget the skx had a really crappy movement in it. So I don't get the complaints

[@gerardprummel8709]

Exactly right!

[@bradmcpherson7591]

Recently bought the King Turtle Grenade. I think it's my second best buy behind the SARB017. Paid about $600AUD for it and it's a weapon. I think Jory is forgetting the Turtle, Monster, Sumo, Tuna, Samurai. They all make the SKX look very tired and all still well under $1k.

[@onewatchjustisntenough]

@@bradmcpherson7591 there you go dude. Exactly my point. Enjoy your new watch brother. I love that dial

[@allenjanes5976]

Thanks for your thoughts. Ive settled on Marc’s islander pilot series of watches. Well built for a great price . Wear it every day

[@LockheedMartinF22Raptor7]

I would say the SKX was the start. The SARB Alpinist was the fuel for the fire. Now, the Prospex is the ashes after the burn.

[@Kenzabukuro]

But the SKX came out in 96 and was a direct ancestor of the 7002 and 6309. If the SKX is the start, then the 6309 is the true start in 1976. That's when the dropoff in quality from the 6105 happened. The cancellation of the SARB/SARG in 2018 was the death knell for modern Seiko. Now it's all reissues.

[@_e5598]

The SRPG27 (and other SRPGs msrp: $295) will age well imo. The finishing on those punches well above that price with the applied indices and case finishing. The quality of the SRPGs feels similar to the nicer "baby alpinist."

[@CH-yp5by]

Man great video! About time someone gave a good rant about this!

[@jamesg4670]

One of my favorite pieces ever…cnt ever get rid of this one…it kind of ruined vintage rolex and tudors for me as well…steals wrist time from my air king and jumbo tudor date

[@rioriggs3568]

Love my SARB017 Alpinist... I need to geed to get blue and white ones.

[@jonboy8181]

You’re spot on with this. There are too many good vintage and used seikos out there. I don’t think I’ll ever buy a new seiko again.

[@dredgewalker]

You should start looking at the Seiko Bellmatics, those are really cool mechanicals with an alarm. I got one and intend to get more.

[@ragnaroker85]

spot on with the most interesting seiko's being all limited bought the SRPJ43, SRPJ79, SRPJ91, and SRPK17. no complaints here but would love to see them put the same kind of effort in their regular lineup.

[@BennyLlama]

I sold mine years ago and just repurchased one last week. I paid the price and ill never sell it again

[@alanmcdougall9323]

Never understood the dislike for the 017 green dial. I think it looks stunning. was fortunate to get 035 and a 033 and a 017 when they were all about 250 quid. Great watches

[@chrisj854]

You forgot to say every watch manufacturers prices are going up in price

[@SteveLum]

Definite agree. Thank you for making one of your classic KZbin presentations.

[@AndreGio77]

I absolutely agree, Seiko has moved up in price. Perhaps trying to move towards the "luxury" world. They've always had very expensive and beautiful watches, but also very good quality entry level. No more... oh well I have an Alpinist, two SKX, a Monster and a Cocktail... guess I'll look other brands ! Speaking of this ... I just got a Venezianico, italian micro brand, with NH34 GMT movement....very very very nice watch at an interesting price !

[@marcelt7203]

You forgot to mention the not aligning bezel which is ridiculous for a watch of the price it is.

[@vals8062]

I have a sarb017 and am glad I bought one below $500 but I wish I had your blue hodinkee sarb0.

[@xgford94]

You just Ouched my whole Sekio collection … thats my bad luck for comming back to watch collecting in 2019

[@kb9oak749]

I love mine on the optional steel bracelet.

[@rdug2165]

You cant expect them to keep prices static for 15 years.

[@WolfBoehme]

The gold tone hands and hour markers against a stainless steel bezel drove me crazy. I sold mine. You live and learn.

[@markwolfson2023]

What's even worse, is that they will not answer or give interviews. I would settle for sapphire crystals on their 5 models, and 4HZ movements under $1k to match the Miyota 9 series. Oh, and regulate them for a change.

[@gaylemcgee2221]

I'm glad I've preferred Orient over Seiko. I still like the Seiko watches that I have. Too bad downgrading means more money to companies. Look at Toyota as an example. This was a needed and informative video!

[@OscarOSullivan]

Toyota Corolla Verso mid to late 2000’s version the best family hack you can buy

[@markrhode5069]

I agree. Good contact. Thank you.

[@structurescience]

Excellent! Watching from Taby, vacation day 16.

[@The_AOP]

Got my SPB209 for $400 the other day (brand new), very happy as it's such a cool watch!

[@EWOHL08]

I started using an apple watch primarily for the health tracking & notifications which put a big dent in my use of traditional watches, almost rendering them obsolete. I have to make an effort to put the apple watch away and put on one of the others, mainly when I go out (not that anyone notices or gives a rip what I'm wearing.)

[@peterlaurence-couzens8913]

Yup, I think you hit the nail on the head there. I own a “ baby alpinist green dial that’s been back to Seiko uk 4 times, and had 3 movements so far and it still keeps lousy time :-(. They also put a display case back on it but stencilled the prospex logo on the glass so you can’t see he movement clearly. 6r15 was a much better movement than the 6r35 imho. Have stopped wearing it now because of the bad timekeeping. Great channel by the way, thanks :-)

[@itxofficial8281]

Yup, you absolutely nailed it. Seiko used to be my favourite brand, even when I wasn't into watches yet. My parents bought me a Seiko titanium chronograph back in 2010 (model no. SND419P1), and I loved this thing to bits. Build quality was exceptional for a sub-400€ timepiece, the integrated bracelet looked cool and was way ahead of its time, and the 12 hr chronograph was a neat tool that I used on a regular basis. For more than 8 years, I solely wore this watch and didn't even THINK of buying another one, that's how versatile and nice it was. Sadly, I lost it at an outdoor pool in 2018. My heart was broken beyond repair, and it almost felt like a family member had died. Fast forward 3 years, and my girlfriend bought me a Seiko SSB301P1 for christmas. Now, I would never tell her what I tell you now, but compared to my good old titanium chrono, this thing looks and feels like a TOY. I wear it frequently and it's a nice watch, don't get me wrong. But for the price she paid, she could've gotten a far superior watch from the likes of Citizen, Orient, Casio etc. Even my Presage, as much as I enjoy its beautiful dial, feels cheap and not really worth its bold price tag. Guess the glory days of Seiko are numbered! 😢

[@lamentate07]

Which Presage do you have?

[@tomhohum4275]

Love my SPB121J1. Bought new in 2022

[@Zotrax1946]

Ahh, that’s too harsh, man. Not wrong, but it’s not that extreme,IMO. The OG Alpinist is one of my best and most favorite pieces, for sure.

[@KNM48]

I'm waiting for my Orient Star Sports Outdoor. Maybe something you should check out? There are several colour optioons, I'm sure you'll find something that matches your handbag.

[@lmf3629]

I can’t believe the prices on the SARB017! Doubled in price since I bought it new. I love the watch and I love the green dial. It’s a great piece and extremely versatile I would never part with it. I hate the cyclops feature they’ve added to the new ones.

[@shawndolan3704]

So true. I'm still in disbelief that the SKX wasn't replaced with a true dive watch.

[@davidgarciagarrido129]

It had to be said, and you, Sir said it.

[@tommym1966]

That the 33 35 and the 65 were a golden generation of ridiculously good value watches. The replacements are nowhere near as good.

[@tjs1189]

I LOVE Seiko…. From when I started getting into watches. It’s the same as how I feel about 4cyl tuners from the early 2000’s

[@martinkaplan1805]

I’m sad. You failed to mention the tragic loss of my favorite Seiko - the SARB 033. Make me happy again,Jori, and please mention it

[@joshuabriggs7114]

I bought my SARB017 in March of 2016 from Long Island Watch for $349! Best watch purchase ever! Added a factory bracelet for $100 and have a GADA watch which will never leave my collection :) Am wearing my SKX007 as I type this! Only newer Seiko that gives me equal fizz is my SLA051 Naomi Eumura but it cost $2k! Ah, those were the days!

[@Og_AkhilRjn]

I feel the seiko speedtimer is a great watch if you find good deals on it from an AD. Or from ebay i got one for like 600Cad which is great for what it provides

[@jspeakman53]

Yep my SARB017 and my SKX007 solely down to your channel. Can’t thank you enough🙂

[@apparaoapparao]

We also complain about the cathedral hand-they are polarizing.

[@Whizzer_]

The Seiko 'Sumo' solar GMT sfk001 is fantastic - that's a recent one I believe and around $800

[@user-kg7zn3ou8v]

mamacoo You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much

[@ozzybenittah8229]

Hey, I can’t argue with the fact that seiko increased their prices in the past couple of years. Personally I feel that it is just the factor of the market and self branding that kicks in and changes things. They must differ themselves from many new/low end brands that entered the market, while keeping the brand value and the people’s perception of seiko as of not part of this low end brands. Of course that as a customer, I’d like them to sell me the best value for a sub 100$, but in this day and age, I feel like everything had shifted up in price that I can’t really blame them. For me, and I’m sure for many others, seiko is their first “real watch”, and the one that got them into this hobby, and I’m sure it will still be this way. But of course the cyclop was not needed 😂 Keep on the great work.

[@clarencebenjaminlim]

Oddly, today's my Sarb017's rotation. Coincidence?

[@JuanHernandez-dw4vq]

I skipped the display caseback alpinist and went with g-shock gwg-1000 mudmaster

[@calumpatondrone]

I got my sarb035 for £180 brand new in 2016. One of my most versatile and best value watches in my collection. It will never leave me!

[@nicolavorgna1623]

Glad I have this watch. Actually bought it after watching the first video you made about it! Great dimensions, love the green dial!

[@cartoonpete407]

Been saying that for the past couple of years. Seiko think the fanboys would lap up anything they put out and have slackened in their QC as a result of this complacency. It looks like there's no turning back now, sadly.

[@RobertOrtiz1015]

Loved Seiko and still do! I have the skx and many other divers and the skx is outdated big time! Wearing one right now btw! Love my baby alpinist as well! Got it for 450$ ! Seiko offers the cheapest auto gmt as well… Presages are insane nice!

[@uzaerahmed]

Man I owned Sarb 017 in 2015. Loved it so dam much that ended up owning 033 & 035 as well. Regrettably sold all to fund my first Rolex thinking I wouldn't miss it after the collection gets swiss heavy; how wrong was I. In 2022 I purchased the SBDC091 and believe me I tried to like it .. for over an year, until I finally admitted to myself that this is just NOT a 017, and sold it. I hated the dial colour, absolutely hated the hideous prospex logo. Seiko is so out of touch with reality it is sad. Case in point - SARB017, SKX007/009

[@doomthespacemarine4998]

Used to have one. Felt it too small on my wrist and didn´t like the useless solar compass. Sold it and bought a Seiko Tic Tac 35th. Looks better in each and every way.

[@vktravellog1242]

I am buying an islander next before I buy a seiko. Also I got my first G shock square recently and love it.

[@MeestroDavid]

But that new 1/100 Speedtimer-truly unique design, insane tech, under a grand MSRP, less at retail...it's the most Seiko thing Seiko has done in decades.

[@armani722]

I haven't really been keeping up lately, why are nato straps no longer allowed to be called nato straps? Did someone copyright it or something?

[@misaroorasim]

I dunno, think he was joking. Maybe youtube has something against war etc, might affect algorithm