The 7 Deadly Sins of Christian Contemporary Music (Part 1)

[@smallsthetimelord4066]

I've never really enjoyed "Christian music". I'm probably the only kid at my church that wishes we did hymns instead.

[@ronaldshank7589]

Hymns-That's what I was raised on, too. I wouldn't give you 2¢, or even 1¢, for this "Modern Christian Music"! I'll take the Hymns anyday!

[@peoplelegend8476]

I'm not even religious but I fucking love Hymns! Not just Christianic hymns but just hymns in general!

[@ellap4235]

[@josephk4807]

Freedom of choice! Bible says, who am I to judge another of God's servants?

[@uncleloof]

Check out a Lutheran Missouri Synod service. Liturgy and traditional hymns.

[@Artorius19631]

Johann Sebastian Bach, the greatest composer to ever live, died believing that he failed in creating music worthy for the glory of God. Think about that for a moment.

[@lukea.907]

to be honest the right place for music is for the praise.and worship of God. Centuries ago when people were smarter they realized that God deserved amazing and complex work... the best art oriented ones attention toward God.

[@mintybadgerproductions]

@@lukea.907 Centuries ago when people were smarter? How do you reach that conclusion? Sure there were very intelligent people, however the vast majority of the population were uneducated and even the intelligent ones are fairly ignorant by todays standards regarding science and ethics.

[@KarlOlofsson]

Well, God probably doesn't exist, so it seems only likely that you will only fail an attempt like that. Sort of like dividing by zero.

[@nordscan9043]

@@KarlOlofsson Gud Finns.

[@jeffreyyoungblood7438]

Yeah. It's called false humility.

[@Lantanana]

That explains why I have never cared for the genre. I am a christian, and I love music, but much modern christian music leaves me cold. I love the old christian music from my childhood... which was mostly black hymns. God made us with a brain, and I think he wants us to use it.

[@projectionv.accountability1010]

With you 100%

[@lsrose]

@Lantanana Possibly the best statement ever.

[@africkinamerican]

@The Barefoot Kid as far as artistry is concerned, it has followed along with the secular trends of draining all the actual musical skill and creativity out of the product. It's greed and laziness. There's also a kind of control freak factor in the Christian music industry that I think got a little freaked out in the wild and crazy 90s and just wanted everything locked down to a safe simple formula. Last but not least, I think the Enemy loves what has happened, because the power is mostly gone. CCM is useless for outreach to the world whereas it used to be powerful, but also turning off a lot of Christians or even would be Christians because of its lack of power in worship as well.

[@alexandria2243]

Same! also I sometimes enjoy music with Christian themes that isn't meant to be 'Christian music'. For example I love love love old folk music, and a lot of it has Christian imagery and such. Bob Dylan for example uses tons of Christian imagery but it was more subtle and in the general Dylan way, either poetically vague or incoherent lol (unless you count some of his 80s stuff, as he did make a few actually gospel esque albums then).

[@scottst1112]

A remedy to all of your posts and the christian artist and musical issues is Josh Garrels. A secular music executive reviewed his discology and was blown away, that he was not only the standard for and answer to the Christian music dilemma of authenticity and devotion to God first, but stated he should not be limited to the genres' fans, but stated he should be on a musical platform of appreciation as the Beatles. To each their own as artists comparison go, but I agree he is the antidote to self gaining or focused reasons to love, follow, and worship our Lord Jesus Christ, I tend to receive in most contemporary Christian songs I hear in worship services and on the local Christian radio songs. Take Marvin Gaye vocal, Bob Dylan lyrics/demeanor/folk style, with a slight Grandmaster Flash flow or rhythm in hip hop blended as a ballad of worship and forgiveness in a modern day recreation of how I would imagine King David's sincerity and devotional psalms to God would sound. That's Josh Garrels, Christian music genre and it's worst kept secret.

[@bluntrapture]

I have been in Christian bands and secular bands. Christians often let the message get in the way of the music, or try to downplay the message so it WON'T get in the way --- which makes it get in the way. And there were conflicts over the styles of music that were deemed "acceptable." As a youth church band, we were once told firmly to stop playing songs that had a strong beat --- because rhythm was what "godless tribes in the jungle" used to call up demons. One time, when we played at a black church and the congregation stood up and started clapping and dancing, we were lectured about not letting our music make people want to dance. So, we were always being told to mellow out, to take things down a few notches, that true Christian rock shouldn't make you feel good, like secular rock does. Which seemed to create dishonest mediocre music. It was a weird and confusing time.

[@tinkerbelle2271]

Wow. That’s confusing. King David danced to the Lord. I’m Filipino and I hope to one day attend a “black church” for the precise thing you mentioned. 😊

[@matthewroberts3125]

"Can't you see you're not making Christianity better? You're just making Rock n' Roll worse!" - Hank from King of the Hill

[@SigGuy320]

I think that's my favorite episode.

[@JCDwyer]

Yup

[@glowingdawn9179]

I always misquote that as Stan from South Park when Cartman starts the band Faith+1

[@KevinWayne]

I wouldn't know, I don't get my taste in music from Cartoon Charachters.

[@JCDwyer]

Lighten up, Francis. They’re jokes.

[@josephk4807]

Everything labeled "Christian", does not necessarily mean it all is!

[@davidholdbrook9428]

Agreed 100%.

[@laurenjordan5470]

True. I remember the late Bishop Iona Locke said regarding Gospel music that God told her just because His name is mentioned in the song doesn't make it Gospel.

[@haltestelle793]

Ok boomer

[@sabrinasusen7463]

They intentionally lead people with their ear tickling music into their false churches that mislead people and its satan's design. This goes so much deeper than this video creator understands. Satan has done everything possible to take as many souls to hell as he and his demons can.

[@brooklyn7722]

Very true

[@daughj]

The lack of original songwriting and true creativity is what really irks me about CCM. I'm a musician and songwriter and Christian, and I think music made for God should be the BEST, most original, most experimental, most creative music out there. Christian artists should be the most skillful and dedicated to their craft. When David said, "Sing a NEW song of praise to Him; play skillfully on the harp and sing with joy" I don't think he meant use the same rehashed I-VI-IV-V chord progression, the same tired lyrics, the same production and arrangement tropes, and the same nursery rhyme melodies that have been used a thousand times before. Pretty Sure.

[@markadams5009]

The Christian metal and hardcore bands have much better music than CCM overall. Check out bands like Diatheke, Theocracy, Wolves at the Gate, Ben S. Dixon. Etc. Also KZbin channels that cover heavy Christian music (and some secular music too) try Metal777, Lyrical Resonance, For the Rock, and Pastor Rob Reacts. You will definitely find some top notch music if you check out these channels lol. 👍

[@nicford1486]

You like John Mark McMillan?

[@markadams5009]

@@nicford1486 Have never heard of him. Will check his music, thanks. You may want to check out "Royal Diadem" it's a solo praise and worship project by one of the band members of "Diatheke". He only has one single out so far titled "Glory and Honor". (Quite good!) But the entire album "Jesus Above All" is supposed to release sometime this summer, hopefully quite soon!

[@lstrusowski4170]

Doesn’t God want us to spread His Word anyway we can? I thought so. Shout out to the Lord! That’s a song, or Shout it out to the Lord. I sing them, and the Old Rugged Cross, one after another, plus all the children ones I always sang as a child. Like Jesus Loves Me! Yes, Jesus loves me! 🕊🙏🏻✝️

[@grammichal6759]

I love your comment. Please check out my friend Beth Whitney. She’s been producing amazingly creative music anchored in her faith for a years--a number of albums. I don’t know how to check if you’ve read this comment but I hope you search for Beth. 🙌🏻

[@themysticalexperiencer8141]

I'm listening at about 46 minutes now, and something struck me about Steven Curtis Chapman. In his autobiography, he says how all these girls were grabbing at his feet and screaming, and that when he went offstage, he fell on his knees and wept, and apologized to the Lord. I thought that was cool.

[@SkyFire2112]

“the easiest sin to look at is...” Ad plays “Maple leaf top dogs, Canada’s best all beef hot dog”

[@jrayproductions7790]

Whoa, weiner-loving is a sin?

[@rickc2102]

And my American brain instantly plays, "Hot dogs, Armour hot dogs..."

[@plain_simple_garak]

@@rickc2102 When I was a kid I had a bunch of baby painted turtles, the size of a quarter. They would eat anything. Anything edible at all you dropped in that aquarium, they ate it. Except Armour hot dogs. They spit it out and swam to the other side. I took that as a sign

[@CraigKeidel]

I'm certainly feeling the lust

[@amandahuginkiss6868]

@@rickc2102 What Kind of a man wears Armour hot dogs?

[@RAMONES3122]

Sufjan Stevens is a Christian who writes about his faith often, but never in a way that imposes or puts up a front. He has condemned CCM as well. He’s quoted as saying “On an aesthetic level, faith and art are a dangerous match. Today, they can quickly lead to devotional artifice or didactic crap. This would summarize the Christian publishing world or the Christian music industry. If you are an artist of faith, then you have the responsibility to manage the principles of your faith wisely lest they be reduced to stereotype, which is patronizing to the church and to the world, and, perhaps, to God.”

[@BecomeTheKnight]

Wait for part 2

[@rogerwilliams9656]

I followed CCM music from the mid 70s into the early 1990s and I definitely understand your point of view. I would say that like any form of music there is good and bad. There are groups that are totally frauds and there are groups that believe in what they’re doing and work hard at the musicianship and to make the best possible presentation. It’s entertainment for Christians. I followed legendary groups like the Second Chapter of Acts and Phil Keaggy. These bands featured some of the very best vocals and musicianship in the industry. These bands also crossed over into the rock industry as musicians like Kerry Livgren would play for the Second Chapter of Acts, then be with his regular band Kansas a few weeks later. I met Matt Ward and Annie Herring and in addition to being great vocalists they are also very nice people. I think it’s like anything else when people see others being successful in a certain industry they look at it as a shortcut and believe they can infiltrate and use that as their foot in the door. The bands I listen to are the original bands that were out in the 1970s well before it morphed into something else.

[@stevenbatke4167]

Sufjan Stevens wisely never got caught in the christian music scene, and thank God for that! Honestly, most Christians wouldn’t like it anyways, because he’s actually making art. No offence to CCM, but art isn’t their bag.

[@aprilkurtz1589]

@feargm He's so damn good, I didn't even consider what his religion is. Nor do I care.

[@voicelikemanywaters1017]

give me Part 2 pls

[@hermenegild3511]

“The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul.” ― Johann Sebastian Bach - Ditch CCM listen to some real music 💯

[@longstreet2740]

AMEN !!!!!

[@s.f432]

BACH 100%!!

[@russellreeves373]

Amen

[@kajikanna]

As a Christian, I really appreciated this video. It didn’t change my mind, just confirmed things I already suspected. I’m highly suspect of musicians that never improve their craft all while singing about God and reaping the rewards of laziness.

[@fagnersousa5906]

I have a thought on that. The Bible says that there are things waiting to be revealed to those who ask. As a Christian musician, I REFUSE to believe that shallow, 4-chord songs are the best thing that God has to reveal to His people...

[@kajikanna]

@@fagnersousa5906 Agreed, and amen. I think simple 4 chord songs have their place, but not when every single song is the same 4 chords with no depth.

[@walmartian422]

Christian music is only as good as the society that generates it. Its a reflection to the inner workings. Making assembly line soulless cash grab religious music is a perfect allegory to the motivations of the larger society’s social and economic proclivities. Compare this shit to the religious music made 300-400 years ago. We are farther away from meaningful spiritual experiences than ever before.

[@fagnersousa5906]

@@walmartian422 totally well said!

[@DemonicRemption]

@kajikanna As a Christian who doesn't listen to CCM because of how dull and repetitive it is, I'd expect a person such as yourself to have become a tad more picky about which CCM artists and bands they listen to after this video.

[@MsCadamia66]

This is why Rich Mullins was equally such a breath of fresh air and so terrifying for so many. He refused to sale out.

[@levans3447]

And Keith Green

[@levans3447]

And Keith Green

[@jimbubbatube]

I miss Rich Mullins. He was such a genuine and dynamic force for good in the industry.

[@jeovannyfernandez4680]

Steve Camp was also a truly a great Christian artist in CCM also a good friend of Keith Green. Good reason why he wrote the 107 thesis for a call for reformation in CCM.

[@debralitton4600]

absolutely agree 100 percent

[@falconsii1031]

I'm a Christian but I absolutely disagree with musical choices in worship music, thanks for making this video

[@andrewplck]

It's a mass-produced crap, and as Mike have mentioned, it tries to elicit emotion reaction rather than a true worship of the LORD. CCM has the very same problem as the church, and that's the compromise with the world and desperate need to be accepted by it.

[@dashiellsisson9263]

What about Bach and Kerry Livgren?

[@falconsii1031]

I used to play bass for a couple different churches but I'm done with it. It is so lifeless and passionless, and I'm never allowed any creative input because of my influences in jazz and metal. It's disgraceful and I don't get why it has to be so constricting and formulaic

[@randomcoffeetable777]

@@falconsii1031 I feel that. I would join on Cello at some points. It was either a pop song where I just drone the tonic of the chord or an actual composer for the Choir would write some obnoxious cello part in Dflat major just to fuck me over. I also didn't practice for that one (lol), but the point stands. The former is WAY more common than the latter.

[@virtualsnake1994]

" OH, CAN YOU HEAR THE DOLPHINS CRYYY?"

[@christopherhughes9787]

"You don't even know anything about Christianity!" "I know enough to exploit it." -South Park

[@TytoMobile]

The reality, from a Christian perspective, is that a lot of CCM songs these days are very theologically and spiritually weak, and a lot of the popular artists are at best theologically underdeveloped, at worst outright heretics that endorse false teaching. A lot of big songs sung in very orthodox and sound churches, because they're more modern and pass a theological sniff test, are written by these people. There's plenty of info on KZbin about this topic from channels like Mike Winger, Spencer Smith and a few other channels I'm missing, as well as some popular sound teachers, i.e. John Piper (DesiringGod), John MacArthur (GraceToYou), Paul Washer (HeartCryMissionary), and others. As a worship musician, and a electronics tech in the music industry, it's interesting to see this side of the issue. Thanks for the work put in on this video!

[@flight2k5]

Yep saying the same two versus over and over and over

[@mj7335]

"theologically and spiritually weak" You mean: Doctrins of devils?

[@92Raider-art]

Yeah you're absolutely right. I completely agreed with you. My old church used to write their own songs and they were good, but then we stopped making our own songs and only played Hillsong. Same thing happened in my new church. We played a song with our team that was written by the leader and it was good, but then we never played it again and just kept playing Hillsong

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

I had to agree w/ Spencer Smith on his recent showing of how they use hypnosis and eastern religious spiritual practices in modern mega churches. Though I sometimes find Spencer hypercritical and flagrantly legalistic on some matters, he had it all very well covered in his recent video. I didn't know about this movement around a decade ago, or the tricks the devil has slipped in back when Christians were telling me, "You have to hear this, it's such anointed praise music". No, it wasn't. It was boring, the lyrics were repetitive and vapid, even though though the production value was obviously there. Spencer was very astute in pointing out that Christians that listen to this empty music tend to have similar besetting sins and can't seem to grow in their walk, though w/ rare exceptions. I can see God honouring new and fervent believers, that get honestly saved in these types of churches, or who are initally hooked w/ this kind of music. The real sheep will invariably move on in time though.

[@guiller2371]

This means nothing more than Christians representing a large market segment and money hungry business people are exploiting the market. We are the idiots when we buy it. We should be able to discern trash, but most of us fail because deep inside never wanted to renounce the charm of the world.

[@Barronvoncrash]

6:35 this is what "taking God's name in vain" is actually about. It's not just using His name as a cuss word, it's about misrepresentation, "taking" would have been better translated as "carry" or "bear" His name... at least for modern English.

[@rickc2102]

Misappropriation of God's authority.

[@jacobneal24]

I've been trying to teach my kids about this... it's more than just say "oh my God"... it's about "wearing God's name for vanity/vainglory", so using God to make profit, gain publicity, elevate yourself... etc

[@frankstanley8499]

Oh so like Christmas and Sunday

[@Barronvoncrash]

@@frankstanley8499 Christmas is when we celebrate Jesus's birth (even though it's highly unlikely that's when He was born) & we go to church on Sunday because that's the day of the week that Jesus rose from the dead, twas declared the Lord's day thus we gather together to worship & there are biblical reasons for it. But yeah, people ruin it, misuse it, secularize it & interject their own stuff that isn't scriptural & thereby misrepresent God & turn people away.

[@frankstanley8499]

@@Barronvoncrash Christmas is when we worship the sun gods that's been the holiday for Sun God for years ilios is jesus also sun. The sun of god. Then you worship on SUNDAY the sun's day. The Sabbath is Saturday always been Saturday. So by this definition you're putting God's name on something that was not originally to do with God right so that's taking his name in vain I was right.

[@codymarkley8372]

Not to mention the fact that most of the CCM praise bands come from churches that preach heretical doctrine. When a new believer or a neophyte Christian takes interest in the music they may be drawn into these powerless and Godless doctrines.

[@kwt7667g]

Exactly!

[@jennifercooper3812]

Yass!! So true. I got into heresy thru music b/c I was young and stupid. Took 20 years to fully get out of heresy and find Biblical Christianity. Basically hymns only now.

[@hereticsout6036]

Very true.

[@supa819819]

@@jennifercooper3812 amen

[@randalclarke5487]

Exactly

[@isaiahmumaw]

The message of the Bible is not comfortable. There are some pretty clear sacrifices required in order to grow in faith. I worry that artists who write “comfortable” music are contributing to the infantilization of faith, much like Paul talked about in 1 Corinthians. This isn’t to say that music should always deeply convict us (there is a time and a place for everything), but if the entire career of an artist is bland and recycled, I worry that their faith is also weak. The best artists, in my opinion, are the ones who do attempt to push back at the world, in a way that isn’t so safe. One such band that comes to mind is Impending Doom, which confronts the church head-on, opposing internal corruption and reminding us that judgment day is approaching. And during all of this they write interesting compositions which add additional weight to the lyrics, rather than just serving as background ambience. Fantastic video, I really appreciate your approach. Looking forward to part 2!

[@BecomeTheKnight]

YES 👏👏👏 There is time for praise and joy, but that's not what gets us closer to God. That's not what helps us grow. Great sacrifice is required. And I already acknowledge a great amount of hypocrisy by ME saying this. But it's true.

[@isaiahmumaw]

@@BecomeTheKnightMad respect for acknowledging your own hypocrisy, though. I appreciate that you always come across as genuine, and I hope the people in your own life appreciate that. In reality it’s just a part of the faith - the standard given in the Bible is perfection, something which we as fallible people will never reach alone, which makes us all hypocrites.

[@DWN-020]

@John Savage I remember being 14 and edgy. You'll grow up...God willing

[@ashleyjohansson230]

@@DWN-020 Yes the bible is an edgy work of art. Thats exactly how it is.

[@DWN-020]

@@ashleyjohansson230 Can't say I remember being female, but I recall being a tryhard back in my teens. Wasn't a good look for me, and it sure ain't one for you.

[@jameswoolford2698]

Bethel & Hillsong lure many people in with their emotive music then preach an apostate message in their churches

[@jessitabonita]

🎯🔥👏 Yes! …Also can’t forget Elevation.

[@2degucitas]

Apostate message?

[@jasongravely7217]

They preach a message of abandoning ones faith? That’s the definition I found for apostate so I’m out of the loop just curious.

[@Mobayeats]

What does apostate mean.

[@bensisko7154]

I don’t listen to either. I don’t trust Hillsong.

[@donmcc6573]

So, they have all the same temptations and shortcomings as any other Christian. They just happen to have a guitar in their hands. That is not a music problem. That is a human problem.

[@l.r.designstudioslauriesul8993]

My thoughts exactly

[@dlawlis]

Yeah but it's also a music problem, at least for those of us who like music 😏

[@oneofhis1979]

That's a sin problem, just more access.

[@Mysimplemind]

You and your guests have verbalized what so many have thought but not been able to say! I mean, bashing Christians for making mediocre music over and over again? Who wants to do that….There is Hope! Ken Steorts, founding guitarist for the band Skillet felt much the same and 20 years ago started Visible Music college which is now offering 4 year degrees! He’s actually doing something to see change come via educational opportunities not previously available. Please do one of your videos interviewing him…. I think your audience will resonate with what he shares! Thanks for your work sir!! Great stuff as always!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGPMlIqirL6gj8k

[@russellreeves373]

I agree to a point, at the same time some of these "bands" are flying blind.

[@JaggieMoMo]

24:56 Psalm 33 : 3 says “Sing to him a new song; play skillfully, and shout for joy.” Worship musicians are CALLED to be skillful. Unfortunately, that’s not always the case.

[@punker-gamer-trucker-guy]

Haha my youth leader use convert all our worship songs to G-C-D because that's the only chords he knew besides bar chords. We asked him to step back from leading the youth worship band, as the rest of us knew how to play and read music, even as teens, versus a grown man who went to college to study for his profession. He just wasn't a musician, and barely a good pastor, but that's a different story.

[@fishinabarrel2256]

All of you need to stop judging. You are as bad as the people sining.

[@RegionalRadioShackManager]

@@fishinabarrel2256 oof practice what you preach

[@invock]

What, you really think Christians actually read the Bible?!

[@stephensdygert7600]

Crummy translation sounds like a "new age" bible.

[@alexhollon7526]

I relate to Steve so much. God is worth more than the garbage pushed out by CCM. I'm actually so happy to see other Christians who truly understand what it means to be one know exactly why it's so awful.

[@christiantolliver6331]

Right there with you, Steve sounds like and awesome guy, I'd love to meet him/talk to him about some of this stuff

[@MisterRorschach90]

I read this as it’s so awful to be a Christian and wanted to agree. Too bad.

[@christiantolliver6331]

@@MisterRorschach90 I can see how you thought that, he kind of worded it poorly, I think when he said "why it's so horrible" he was referring to the music, not how horrible it is to be a Christian.

[@firemarshal2629]

@@MisterRorschach90 lol so edge lord

[@carlprice2133]

I thought the same. I’d love to hear more from Steve as he seemed to have a really great perspective. As a Christian, I cannot stand CCM and listen to Gospel hymns for worship. I just always got a fake vibe from the music. The lyrics are (not always but in most ccm songs I’ve heard) just bland and repetitive. Plus, the messages a lot of the time are more self help and motivation than actually spreading the word of God.

[@KenWhitson777]

As a musician at my church, I just have to say it’s a heart thing. Every time. Every song. Every practice even. I don’t doubt that there’s some falsehood within the “Industry“, but God will always receive genuine heartfelt praises from His people. I’ve also tried writing original songs, not so easy.

[@LetsGoThere]

God deserves more than the same three chords over and over.

[@KenWhitson777]

@@LetsGoThere Three chords over and over from a truly grateful heart would still be better (to God) than the most elaborate musical from a virtuoso composer who had no relationship with God and was just out for $$$. Granted, those 3 chords would get boring pretty fast for most people.

[@LetsGoThere]

@@KenWhitson777 I respect that 🙏

[@TheShamuraja]

People actually would have to learn the art of polyphony. It is a science in and of itself. Bach wrote for 5 voices. But there are ways to learn from the classical / baroque systems. It is just not being taught - but contemporary on purpose. The complex music actually does sth. to our brain, soul and spirit. This is why they abolished it. For example in Germany, the country with a big tradition of composers, it happened with the CCF congress for cultural freedom, the Frankfurt School and dena.zification.

[@rjpresleyable]

It is a condition of the heart..

[@michaelmullins7125]

"selling people an emotion that they interpret as an experience with God"...wow!

[@mikefanofmovies]

"Churches of men, you also refuse to listen, nor will you give heed to My correction; therefore hear the Word of The Lord, for thus says The Lord: You have all gone out of the way! You have corrupted My Word for your own glory! Pride has become your master and greed has entered your houses, houses which bear MY name! DESECRATION! BLASPHEMY! I dwell not in any church made by human hands; I dwell in the temples made by My own hands! O churches of arrogance, how shall I gather you when you resist all correction and follow after the vain babblings of men in authority, heaping to yourselves teachers, wolves in sheep’s clothing, saying the Word of God is the way to riches and material things?! Woe, I say to you who follow these acolytes of satan! False teachers! Soothsayers! Desolations are coming and great want! How then shall all these silver coins and paper, houses made of brick and wood, save you?! The riches of men shall be taken from them in a day! What then shall you stand upon, O men of vanities and vain deceits? Where shall you hide?! Churches of men, cast out these leaders who speak as doves and teach doctrines of devils! My children, wash your robes and purify your houses, for The Holy One comes nigh! Be not left in bitter sorrows, abased in the Great and Terrible Day of The Lord! Cast away these false doctrines and filthy traditions; stop committing fornication with the harlot! Repent therefore, and come out of her! Take not one of her corrupt doctrines to yourself, stand apart from her traditions, for they are most perverse! For I tell you the truth, you all remain like her! Says The Lord. From the least to the greatest, you all pollute My name by your traditions and profane My Word by your doctrines! Behold, you have agreed together to forsake My Law and forget My Sabbaths, justifying your transgression in the name of Grace, upholding your sin by permission in the name of The Messiah, whom you call Christ! DESECRATION! GREAT BLASPHEMY! You follow another messiah, a false christ, a molded image, which your forefathers created and you continue to mold to this day! Return to Me, therefore, and seek your Savior in truth, that you may now embrace Him as He truly is! For YahuShua, yes He whom you call Jesus, is your only Sanctuary from the storm. To Him alone shall you flock, His flesh shall you eat, His blood shall you drink. Walk in HIS ways as they are, and not as you would have them be. Put away all your holidays, and no more worship Me in that way,[1] for it is most perverse. Seek now the way of true righteousness, and obey all My commands; set all these crooked paths straight, and you may yet escape all these things which are about to come upon you. TURN TO GOD!... Turn to Me as I am, and not as you would have Me be! For The Holy One comes quickly to deliver His own!... Behold, you shall see the angels of Heaven Ascending and descending upon The Son of Man;[2] The sleepers shall awake, and you who are yet awake, Having been fully awakened to Him, shall be caught up With them to meet The Lord in the air, as it is written; And forever shall you be with The Lord...[3] Purify your faith! Purify your worship! Purify your houses!... Do it now! Says The Lord God, Creator of Heaven and Earth. Thus says The Holy One of Israel: I have come not to make peace, but war, even war in My members - a great division,[4] the scourging of nations, the wrath of God! For the fulfillment of all that is written is at hand, and shall progress quickly. Yet for the sake of the elect, it shall be cut short. Beloved of My heart, be not troubled nor weep, for these things must be. Then the end shall come, and I shall reveal My glory. Behold, I shall cleanse the sanctuary and restore the garden, and you shall learn war no more[5] - NO MORE! Says The Lord. For I died; behold, I am risen! And so as I died, sin has also died in those who love Me. And that which leads My people into sin shall also be destroyed, ground to dust beneath My feet, carried away upon the winds of restoration, which I am... Behold, The Morning Star is risen, the universe is filled with His glory! And that glory shall abide with men, even in them and among them! I shall be a Father unto them, and they shall be My beloved children, forever! Lo, a return to innocence, paradise lost is paradise found, a return to the garden - the universe, your playground. Thus I have spoken, so shall it be: The mystery of God revealed, The counting of days no more... Forever young in the presence of Your Shepherd, your Redeemer, your Father, Your Brother, your Most Beloved Friend... The fulfillment of all things For which your hearts have groaned... I AM THE MEANING OF LIFE! And all who live in Me, and I in them, will live forever!" [1]Deuteronomy 12:31 [2]John 1:51 [3]1 Thessalonians 4:17 [4] Luke 12:51 [5]Isaiah 2:4 trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=To_the_Nation_Once_Called_of_Itself_%E2%80%9CUnder_God%E2%80%9D

[@donnisscott4944]

@@mikefanofmovies Truth be told!!!!! Praise and bless HIS HOLY NAME YAHWEH JEHOVAH YESHUA HAMASHIACH JESUS CHRIST,amen and amen!!!!!

[@mikefanofmovies]

@@donnisscott4944Did you read more of His Letters brother? You find the shortcut at the bottom of my previous comment, freely shared so your ears may have more of this joy! And remember, a good tree cannot bear bad fruit.

[@donnisscott4944]

@@mikefanofmovies friend, I am your sister. Thank you for the info!!!!! Amen, we are known by our fruits,!!!! Amen!

[@mikefanofmovies]

@@donnisscott4944 Amen sister!

[@mcgruff7355]

Lead singer from skillet has surprised me from watching his you tube show he is a serious Christian knows his Bible and doesn't mince words or belief.

[@MightyWomanOfGod9050]

I agree. I really do like him.

[@calebcarroll7641]

Agreed

[@TheBlubunni]

Yes! John L Cooper is bold for Christ and the Faith.

[@joerojas5448]

Even CCM didn't like something John said on stage of the KLOVE Fan Awards. That's why I have mad respect for John.

[@TheBlubunni]

@@joerojas5448 What did he say at the Klove awards?

[@soundrat]

I’ve been a Christian musician and audio mixer for decades. Thanks for this video. It makes me feel I’m not alone in exposing some of the Christian world of music. I’ve learned that people are not always going to be perfect and have many double standards and favoritism and yes I have mixed musicians that can’t sing nor play. We must still honor the Lord even if we are in the minority.

[@randalclarke5487]

Agreed... the problem is self-worship and putting forward the image of being perfect/anointed. This is, I believe, what Chrst spoke of in speaking of false prophets, etc.

[@lstrusowski4170]

Read what I wrote on here, please, about just what you say! Amazing! And lose the dishonest liars who try to infiltrate Christian music will be judged one day. We are not their judge, but totally prefer not to hear liars in Christian music. There are real sincere true Christian singers out here just waiting for a break! Advertise! Get a new Christian music thing going, in the name of Jesus, please! I will listen and spread it around, as I always have, even on here as suggestions, to lost people,who really need some music to soothe them, and minister to them, as we did before! It just needs weeding out of fakes!🕊☺️❤️🙏🏻✝️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🕊

[@martinjanev1705]

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[@hwd7]

@John W can you explain why so many sermons on You Tube have poor low audio?

[@Jeff.Paquette]

As a Christian musician all I can say is... thank you for making this series! It's saturated in truth and honesty. God bless you.

[@Ninja_S1000RR-R]

10:15 Cartman had it right when he said all you have to do is take love songs and put the word Jesus in them.

[@alexanderwagner4587]

🎶When I see Jesus up on that cross I can't help but think that he looks kinda hot🎵 😂😂😂

[@MosoKaiser]

@@alexanderwagner4587 _"I wanna get down on my knees and start pleasing Jesus"_

[@sicknashty3837]

@@MosoKaiser oh no

[@sicknashty3837]

@@MosoKaiser you're going to hell for that XD

[@kayjay6114]

faith+1 😁 When I listened to Bieber's 'gospel' song, it also brought me back to South Park

[@gabadaba5436]

I think a lot of us would agree that gospel is probably the best Christian music

[@samvanblarcom4758]

And Bach

[@Leo-uq6jp]

I think the chanting at my Orthodox Church is probably my favorite.

[@Ahalaya]

I'll put it this way. When Nanowar of Steel made a comedy metal Christmas song, they didn't include elements of CCM in the song...

[@rebeccassweetmusic4632]

Agreed! At least it's not so boring and formulaic. I used to sing in a traditional church choir, and while the music we performed was a bit more sophisticated, it just became boring and dull after a while. The only part I enjoyed was when we would do special performances before the pastor would start preaching the sermon's theme.

[@nolanbarth9211]

Oh for sure!!

[@KeyWestCorona]

Even when I was younger, CCM seemed a bit derivative. There were certain artists though such as Carmen, Phil Keaggy, Michael Card or Russ Taff that were true musicians and followed their own path. Unfortunately, today’s CCM is driven by the same focus group research that drives the music industry at large. It’s why everything starts to sound the same over time.

[@lisabellamy8424]

Exactly…Rich Mullins would walk up to the abyss and stare down into it…and then come back and write about it. His songs are really good.

[@michaelflorczyk1394]

@@lisabellamy8424 Rich Mullins and Michael W Smith are two I actually enjoy from time to time. However, there are others like Leeland who during interviews just give a sermon instead of talking about their own music and musicianship.

[@NegdoshaManido]

Hehe. "...start to sound the same over time." Like 5 minutes. That much time. :D

[@PurpleIrishSweater]

At least Rich Mullins lyrics and non-music writing was honest about being a Christ follower and not 100% promoting the CCM/Religious machine

[@laurenjordan5470]

I've heard lots of songs over so much time that most of them sound the same all across the board. It became a turn off for me, I'm selective about the songs I hear, I like real music, music that I can relate with and it encourages, uplifts, and inspires.

[@wtrdawnlord]

My wife usually listened to the local CCM station in the car. I don't know how many times a song would play and I would think, "this sounds like..." a secular pop or rock band that was big 5 years ago. Happened almost every time we were in the car together.

[@voxextremos22]

I’ve played worship music in bands for 10 years+ and it’s every watered down. I can learn these songs in about a week. Here’s the formula for drums Either 5/4, 3/4, 6/8 Intro:Druma Out or in lightly V1: usually a tom groove Prechorus: 16 measure build C1: ride groove V2-3Hi hat groove PC2: repeat chorus 1 C2:Repeat c 1 Bridge: Tom groove for 30 measures With a 16 measure build C3. Repeat Oitro

[@voxextremos22]

@@droidfan Many other christian musicians hold the same opinion

[@TheLeech-137]

Yea man I’ve been drumming in churches for about ten years and it’s really based on denomination. For example I started in Pentecostal churches, and it’s a lot 4/4 upbeat soul and gospel. As for modern churches yea it’s exactly how you described!

[@lasagnasux4934]

I've been leading worship at church for several years now and I've got so many issues. We've got people who play who just "don't need to practice" or "play by ear" and that's so annoying as the person who is supposed to lead them towards excellence. I don't care if the song is "easy" ; make it so it isn't. Add a new thing, learn a new thing, just be creative.

[@TheLeech-137]

@@lasagnasux4934 yea I feel you there, if we’re praising god with with our talent why don’t we work to foster and grow that talent. People don’t have that mentality because they don’t want to put in the work or think their abilities are enough to satisfy a congregation. I’ve been in bands inside and outside the church wear “we don’t need to rehearse” dominates the mentality of the band.

[@lasagnasux4934]

@@TheLeech-137 yeah, my blood pressure is rising just thinking about it. I always tell them, when we meet together to play the songs, its rehearsal, practice is the thing you do at home.

[@ryanballantyne1811]

It seems like CCM is following the trajectory of the North American mainline churches as a whole - fading. I feel like there is a hunger for old tradition, both theologically and aesthetically, which perhaps is a ray of hope.

[@TheShamuraja]

That means just quality. Everything else puts you asleep. This whole thing brings people to times before Bach musically. Flat lead melody and a bit of stuff around it. Polyphonic music was a breakthrough and we are abandoning it and going to the dark ages.

[@PneumaticTube]

Phil Keaggy. Steve Taylor. Iona. 3 bands/artists that were truly creative, highly talented, and sincerely Christian.

[@c.m.cordero1772]

@Best Movies I’m Catholic and that isn’t true.

[@djentile7773]

Yes and amen

[@beardedrogue4282]

This Providence is apparently a Christian band. They just aren't exactly worship.

[@MR-yx8hj]

A friend of mine calls CCM “seven-eleven music”; the same seven words sung eleven times.

[@jameswood231]

Thats my thought of today's CCM praise music. Give me "Love Lifted Me", "Nothing But the Blood", "Amazing Grace", "At Calvary", It Is Well With My Soul", "How Great Thou Art". All these songs, Hymns have a true spiritual annointing. There is NO Misunderstanding of WHO we are giving Worship and Praise to. Most CCM is a worldly repetitive chant😝Very sterile, sitting on the fence style Christianity(which doesn't truly exist)

[@lstrusowski4170]

Christians want to hear the real thing. Repent, ask God for forgiveness, and live your life as a truth teller, not an accuser and judge of all Christian Music! The songs from the 80’s and 90’s in CCM are the best ones, not today’s CCM. It all sounds the same today….

[@MR-yx8hj]

@@lstrusowski4170, to each their own. Personally, I find it to be drivel; weak lyrics pre-packaged in a corporate bow.

[@lstrusowski4170]

@@MR-yx8hj like I think I said, go back to the late 80’s or early 90’s, and you will see a marked difference between then and now in Christian music. Barely played on radio, just on one station here. A lot of that music saved lives, and some pretty big already famous singers/musicians turned from their wicked ways and changed their lives, through Jesus Christ, through that music. Today all so-called music stinks so bad, I just play the Beatles station on Sirius radio, plus a couple of older music stations, in the car. I’ve heard Beatles stuff I never knew about, and love it so much, even the stories told by Paul and Ringo are just what I was thinking as a teen in the 60’s. That and my Christian music never ever bore me! I love the Christian talent from the era I was talking about as much as the Beatles, or any other clean music from then. Today ain’t music! I can’t even listen to that filth and horrible evil people talking, or whatever that crap is, the music part is horrible, and twerking is disgusting, especially on police vehicles. On stage 2 girls writhing in a giant bed! Where in the hell is the music, musicians, arrangements, etc, especially TALENT! Porno music or murderous things that spout out of Satans mouth is not music. Just more brainwashing of people and little kids, girls, twerking in the streets! Really? A sick man driving by could scoop these girls up, never to been seen again! Babies! That does not restore the my soul. Good music, especially those older Christian bands rock! For Jesé! I DIG IT! 🕊❤️☺️🙏🏻✝️🕊

[@buckoz3353]

The church you mentioned in this video has got to be the most badass church ever and it also makes sense seeing how the first metal band (Black Sabbath) preached Christian values and warned about the dangers of organized religion

[@calebhawk6868]

I feel like the best part of this whole thing is that they’re Christians. It’s not just people who became atheists and have anti-religion bias, it’s people who share the supposed beliefs of this music that are critiquing it.

[@Dram1984]

As a Christian CCM is always an embarrassing topic when it comes up.

[@spiderfan1974]

@Caleb Hawk do you believe in unicorns? If not why do you have an anti unicorn bias? What about dragons? If not why do you have an anti dragon bias? Or Bigfoot, nessie, or ghosts? What's your beef with them?

[@tomdeters735]

I've learned some lessons from them..im not a musician, but whatever kind of work we do, we have to be mindful of our coworkers, customers etc

[@deaj8450]

@@spiderfan1974 I am not really a devout Christian, but most see those kinds of things as metaphors up for interpretation.

[@spiderfan1974]

@@deaj8450 that tired old chestnut of "you hate gawduhhhh". Or you just want to sin. Or you have a bias against etc..... . It's a straw man for the "persecuted" Christian to tear down and win an argument they were having with themselves. My point being unicorns don't exist so how can one have a bias against unicorns. Same with my other examples. I've known a few christians that grew to hate god. If your curious his son passed away from cancer. He's a non believer now and a bitter one at that. But he 100% drank the kool-aid he was a card carrying prothletizing pain in my ass christian at one time. Believe what ever you want as long as your not taking advantage of people or taking their money. If you do that I have zero problems with you or your diety at all.

[@Reply-who-me]

I prefer hymns to the hokey-ness that I feel when I hear the music at the more contemporary church services. It doesn’t make me feel like singing it, it makes me feel silly when I try to sing along. It is more a distraction. For instance I’m usually confused by and stare at the clear plastic cage the drummer is in wondering if they locked him it from there my imagination goes off the rails until the pastor begins speaking again. I don’t feel that way when the hymns are used with a good choir, guitar and/or piano/organ, i have a more community connected sense when we are able to follow the hymnals together.

[@kristophstjames4143]

exactly- that's because it's about the performers on stage- You can't glorify Jesus if "man" is in the center of the attention. I don't sing along either - it's ridiculous, often, in the church that I attend. They will just have the piano play while the congregation sings a hymn, that's the way it should be. When that happens, everyone is singing, not just staring blankly at the stage.

[@lisarodriguez8681]

I saw that plastic drum box today for first time and thought maybe the drummer had immune deficiency and needed a bubble protection from covid

[@PurrMore]

🤣🤣🤣 oh man! How I do feel you!!! Very well said 👏

[@brittneyesp]

Totally agree

[@jakebarnes3054]

Protestant moment

[@gospelballer33]

As a independent Christian hard rock artist. I refuse to release anything that I dont put all my effort and energy into it to reach people with the message. All of my songs talk about real issues that all of us face coming from a Christian worldview perspective. Theres no excuse to not give our best.

[@budgetgearguru4211]

I subbed to your channel, gonna check it out on the way home.

[@gospelballer33]

@@budgetgearguru4211 hey I really appreciate that. My first couple of songs were, let's just say alot to be desired. But I would like to think I'm getting better each song.

[@ComeToTheFeastOfWar]

That reads like an advertisement to me (with the special emphasis on how good you are lol). Not sure it's a good look especially given the topics discussed in the video, tbh.

[@gospelballer33]

@@ComeToTheFeastOfWar its definitely not. I said that to give context. It bothers me how CCM music is all the same. Just like the video said it's based on feelings and not lyrical content. That was my point. I stopped listening to mainstream ccm music over a year ago. Also did anywhere in my comment did I say my music was good???? I said the lyrics talk about real issues we all face. I also said I put 100% into my songs, because the video also spoke about how ccm music is notoriously lazy. Context my friend.

[@ComeToTheFeastOfWar]

​@@gospelballer33 I'm sure everyone understands that the video isn't saying that all CCM artists are lazy or don't work hard, so your comment doesn't really work as a counter argument or so, either. You coming here to brag about your own work ethic just sounded funny to me, given the nature of the video, especially if ALL of your songs are about "real issues that all of [Christians] face", which sounds, well, a bit grandiose. To me, commenting on your business account about how well you're executing said business just sounds like an advertisement, that's all. On a different note, I thought their criticism was more directed towards musical laziness, or lack of musical skill (the song structures, copying popular music, keyboardist who couldn't play, etc) than lyrics alone.

[@gregsnider2023]

Grew up in the church playing music and remember just being bored at the lack of complexity as early as 13 or 14 just teaching myself guitar. For years on end I had many "leaders" (not all of them fortunately) that actively supressed my musicianship and desire to make the music better. It was always strongly implied that I was just trying to "show off." It really showed me the blatant immaturity of those people who were supposed to be leaders. This was one of many factors that led to me leaving the church.

[@kseismoloj]

When I was on a church mission, I went to lots of different church denominations. There was a Methodist church that I attended for a Christmas service, and they alternated contemporary Christian music with hymns. There was a wonderful Spirit in the congregation when the hymns were played, but it seemed to get driven out once the contemporary music was played.

[@lsrose]

In my small Methodist church, a number of years ago some members started a worship band complete with electric guitars and drums. At first it was great and they were a talented group, but as time went on it became a source of contention between older and younger members. Then we went to a blended service, which included CCM and hymns. Finally, our pastor, who was younger than me, decided the CCM wasn’t good for our church and decided that we needed to go back to traditional hymns. The praise band was allowed to continue to play the hymns, sometimes in a different way to add to them. Everyone seemed to like it. But alas, the praise band was largely a younger group, and one by one they quit. We are back to traditional hymns with an exceptional piano player, who will occasionally change things up with the music of a hymn but not fundamentally change the tune. Most of us are genuinely happy.

[@azurephoenix9546]

@@lsrose That reminds me of this catholic church a friend of mine used to go to. They did a LOT of...I guess mariachi interpretation of catholic hymns. When the old priest retired, the 20 something priest came in and cut that off immediately. He wasn't having any of it, explaining that it didn't evoke a spirit of reverence for why people are there and what is supposed to be happening there. I am not a Christian, but that actually struck a chord with me. Why are you there? Is what you're doing there evoking the level of respect that God deserves or is it there to entertain you and keep you awake during church? I think it's a fair question to ask when you're directing any aspect of service.

[@lsrose]

@@azurephoenix9546 that’s exactly right. At first our praise band was great and created a whole new level of energy for worship. But as time passed I think we all could see that it wasn’t creating the reverence that we needed. Methodists are just that…methodical in worship. In our traditional service we have a very defined order of worship and it works for me. Very structured and allows me to ‘get into the reverent mindset’ so to speak. We don’t have a Sunday night service anymore so it would have been great to have the praise band play on Sunday nights. I’m not sure why they didn’t. But I love the old hymns!

[@azurephoenix9546]

@@lsrose I agree. I was thinking about this a little bit and it occurred to me that a good example of 2 different contemporary songs with the same title are a good example of setting the tone of worship. They're both theologically sound and engaging songs in their respective ways, but the messages they convey are very different. Both are called Lion of Judah. One is by Phil Thompson, the other by Sunny Tranca. I highly recommend listening to both, and comparing the lyrics, sentiment and the music, just to view the same theological concept from different angles, the warrior Jesus and the fierce comforter and protector Jesus. These things are simultaneously consistent, but very different views of the same thing. And each can be applied to different situations and venues.

[@emelphick4742]

Thank you for sharing this. I had the exact same experience as you at church. They alternated contemporary Christian music with hymns. There wasn't anything wrong with the contemporary music, the words were worshipful of God, etc. But wow when the hymns were played, it was like night and day, the presence of the Holy Spirit was so strong & sweet. When the modern music was played it was flat in comparison. This is the first time I've ever heard someone else say the same thing!

[@Mr.Truxton]

I'll stick to old hymns for the most part if I want christian music. Also Neal Morse if i want complex stuff. Also i like Narnia, Theocracy and stuff like that sometimes.

[@joneill3dg]

“ should you not offer God the absolute best writing and performing you can” As a Christian musician, and worship leader: YES! in fact that’s what I ask of my team before we lead worship at church, I always ask them to give their all and their best for God. Sometimes that looks like playing awesome guitar solos, or hitting high powerful notes, or going crazy on drums

[@williamsporing1500]

Love it brother! My two brothers and I write ‘Christian’ music. I don’t know what it is but it’s not ‘praise and worship’ lol It makes you think. It might make you think, what is wrong with those guys lol

[@xylord18]

That’s a wonderful idea Jacob. Unfortunately it’s not common, if it exists at all, in writing Christian music. I have yet to hear a Christian music artist that actually pushed any real boundaries in music as an art, much less pioneered or altered the art as a whole.

[@annettetesta8816]

I know my church worship team are all past music majors and very sincere people. I know they all get together before each service and pray their hearts out. But the stuff they offer is usually embarrassing. You can't blame these folks too much - they were raised on pap. It is heartbreaking how they crucify the harmonic possibilities in the simplest hymn, and forget that they are to lead, not overpower. Thanks for your comment. God bless.

[@stupidlyfamous]

As a lead guitarist in a worship band, I wanna start by saying thank you for this perspective, keeping us Christians accountable for the things that we say that we are. Yes, there are some questionable people at the forefront of what the mainstream knows as the Christian poster child. That’s all the more reason for for a person to get into their Bible, have a relationship with God, learn about Jesus and his teachings, and that way you can discern what is of God and what is false pretense. Those guys on Katie Perry’s bus obviously did not have God with them. They could have very easily removed themselves from the situation. I won’t deny that there is a few stagnant characteristics of some CCM, but it boils down to the heart, as someone below has already said. When I am at rehearsal, that’s time for me to give everything I’ve got to Him. When I am on stage during a service, that’s also my time to give everything I’ve got to Him. Because that what He deserves. The best of my abilities at the current time are different than the best of the abilities of the other worship leaders. And so finding a common ground where it’s not elementary and also not a concert is where you’ll likely find your stagnation with the musical structure. But rest assured, all of us that are on stage are 100% for the Lord. We aren’t paid. We are a small church, so I don’t think you can consider us famous. Also, we are very choosy about the songs from some of the very same bands you’ve mentioned that we play. If even one word is biblical or alludes to being unbiblical, it’s out. The idea is to bring people to Jesus in an atmosphere that feels safe for people to reflect inward, lay their sins down, and and reverently take up their cross. I think truthfully your discomfort towards CCM is rooted in the blatant hypocrisy of relatively small sample of Christians. Also I think it’s fair to say that you’ll be hard-pressed to find a church that doesn’t have flaws. Church is a hospital for souls, not a sanctuary for the saved. Which leads me to my question/challenge. If you are in a church that is tied up in some of these things, rather than leaving to appease your own agenda, stand up in your faith and called them out on it. Get out your Bible and respectfully show them where they are wrong. but also be receptive to their answer. The outcome should always be glorifying to God.

[@jennc2990]

Well said!

[@jennc2990]

I will say that I agree 100%! I will add, that I am a Jesus freak! I love the Lord and I believe in the Gospel and that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and that no one goes to the Father except through him. John 14:6. I sing on the worship team at the church I attend, and I may not be the best when being compared to others out there, but my heart is in it for the Lord. When I get up to sing, it's about my mindset, my heart, and my WHY! Why I'm doing it is most important...to praise and bring Glory to the Lord who created me. It boils down to, what is the hearts intentions, what's the motivation behind why people are doing it. God is after the hearts of sinners. Jesus even asked the tax collector to follow him. Jesus is after the heart of ALL, whether you claim to be a keyboard player, guitarist, singer, drummer, etc. If someone is portraying to play an instrument but truly can't, and are lying about it, then pray for them and encourage them to be honest and ask for lessons. Don't laugh and make fun of them. Everyone has told a lie or sinned in some way. We're not perfect, only Jesus is perfect. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the people in this video is lying about something. It's about the heart and the intent. There is nothing wrong with singing for the Lord, just like David danced for the Lord. Everyone has a talent or gift that God blessed them with and it's okay to use it to Glorify him. Society puts to much criticism on the simplicity of loving the Lord. It's just like anything else that skeptics and society does to anything out there, judge, critique, and if it doesn't line up with what you think, it's wrong. Bottom line, it's about first being convicted in the heart about your own faults, plucking the thorn out your own eye before you go tell your brother to pluck the thorn out of his...hypocrisy! It's all in the Bible and Christians who love the Lord, get to know his true character and get to understand that Jesus went through trials, suffered for 40 days in the wilderness, hunger pains, thirst, pain, cold, fatigue, temptation from the devil and all the while, he never wavered in his faith this fullfil his Fathers plan for him. His crucifixion!!!! How many of us could do that? He is absolutely worthy of praise, worship and admiration for what he has done and still does for us. HE gets it done every second of everyday and HE is the reason you are here and wake up to a new day. Be careful what you say. Do not judge, lest you be judged. Again, it's about what's in the heart and only God can help change a person's heart. He works in his own ways, so if he uses another to speak life and truth into someone, even through the lyrics of a song or a melody, then he can and he will. Ultimately at the end of it all, those people have to face the Lord about their transgressions. The Bible, God's word, tells believers in Christ to hold each other accountable for actions and behaviors that don't align with what God says is appropriate. That's acceptable to do, but only when we wash our own hands clean first from our own faults. Again, hypocrisy and pride are not what God favors and he will resist the prideful and bless the humble. Humble yourselves and get to know the Lord and base your opinions off of his words instead of your own. Lean not on your own understanding, but on his word. He is after the hearts of man because the heart is dead without him in it.

[@KenWhitson777]

Good stuff brother :)

[@Poopbutt2134]

The kingdom of god is within the Bible can b and will b interrupted over years! JLP has really shown me how ppl who read the Bible go further from god cause his teachings aren’t in a book, he never says believe in the Bible he says believe in me.

[@KenWhitson777]

@@Poopbutt2134 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Without God’s Word, how could we know Him?

[@dneuens]

Mike exposing contemporary Christian music while wearing a t-shirt that says “Crusade”. 👀

[@meowtherainbowx4163]

He’s more into Christianity’s early stuff.

[@jaspermcminnis5538]

🎵CRUSADER CRUSADER🎵by Saxon

[@ChiefFalque]

@@meowtherainbowx4163 underrated comment right here

[@barnabasmike4318]

His band is literally called Crusade.

[@dneuens]

@@barnabasmike4318 You don't say...

[@jonathancisneros7150]

It’s crazy I remember when I used to be the pianist in my church. In the Hispanic congregation I started realizing that the modern Christian music wasn’t really in correlation with the hymns. So there’s was a time where I stop singing the modern and went back to the original songs that where truly inspired by God.

[@AmericaisTheBabylon]

Bring classical music back to the church!!!!!

[@92Raider-art]

I'm with yah. Bring back the hymns

[@eddiewalker7252]

....sounds religious whatever anchors you in His presence!

[@mollietenpenny4093]

Amen!🙏🏻💕

[@TheoHawk316]

That's pointless, if you don't mean the lyrics then it doesn't matter.

[@steve00alt70]

not everybody likes classical music

[@maryloulongenbaugh7069]

Retched lame-o music. It takes me 2 to 3 days to recover from the 'contemporary worship experience'. I quit attending and it was a great relief. I liked how one person described Christian worship music: Lounge music without the drinks. I concur.

[@Bibletruth01]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXq6mWmpjNGNqtk

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

It's pretty vapid stuff. I love a lot of rock music, but if I want to listen to secular music, then I just put on secular music. It's not even about drum beats or slower melodies, since some deeply anointed, true praise music, like Keith Green, is a terrific cross between Chris de Burgh and Billy Joel. So it's not about beat and tempo, when you can have all that w/ real anointing and profound and biblically sound lyrics. You could never mistake a good Christian artist for a top 40 love song either.

[@eddiewalker7252]

wow, did you just make King David a true worshiper feel stupid. Truth is he didn't care as he danced before the Lord till his clothes came off. Listen to Brandon Lakes Miracles and see your room fill with the peace of God! Taste and see that the Lord is good!

[@jendergauged185]

I really like Keith Green. I think he was completely genuine in his desire to give everything he had to God. A great piano composer and performer.

[@gordonpeden6234]

That is a very good description: "Lounge music without the drinks"

[@marksman1107]

*Hundreds of old people at my church want to know your location*

[@conormurphy4328]

Time to go Colin Firth

[@dw6213]

"If it weren't for the hypocrites church would be empty" - A Ministers Son

[@BecomeTheKnight]

We address that in part 2

[@chasm9557]

I grew up in a very christian area. We used to say that the ones who rushed to be in the front pews of the church at mass were the ones who lived the least christian lives by virtue of their actions.

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

ive heard that saying before honesty i think its overly nihilistic especially since nowadays people just throw the word hypocrite around as an easy criticism whether its justified or not

[@dominikweber4305]

@@m.j.vazquez4720 if you are christian, you automatically become a hypocrite because either you haven't read the bible or you don't fully abide by it.

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

@@dominikweber4305 ok ? i can easily say if you are human you are a hypocrite because no one abides by their own rules 100 percent

[@Luanne_Ashe]

I have been a "church musician" for the better part of 60 years. Of late I have found contemporary worship music to be infantilizing both musically and in spiritual content. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

[@thinkagain2033]

Totally agree. The purpose of the music is to prepare the heart to receive the Word of God.

[@karenlynnkennedy6162]

I have been one too, for 35 years, and I feel the same way.

[@TheShamuraja]

It might be the reason I will join the Catholic, the Orthodox or find a traditional Protestant church.

[@cynthiakarkeys]

@@StephanieWitmer-iq5pv The original lyric is unforeseen kiss...?

[@cynthiakarkeys]

Great way to describe it Luanne! I love Come Thou Fount and I only recently discovered the lesser sung verses... It really takes you on a journey of working out your faith in the hills and valleys, it has such depth that is lacking in so many contemporary worship songs. I don’t mind listening to it in the background of daily life, but I have a hard time with some of it being used for worship in my church.

[@Godsrocker1970]

Christian metal saved me. 1987 I waz given Bloodgood Detonation, Whitecross ST, and Tempest A Coming Storm. I now have over 12000 Christian Rock/metal songs. These songs have led me deeper into God, encouraged me when I was in despair, taught me God's Wors and caused me to fall into a deep awe filled worship. Lot of these artists are still continuing their ministry.

[@tonymurray6518]

Had the opportunity to hang out with Whitecross, during their Triumphant Return tour. Great men of God, saw many youth get saved, Holy Spirit definitely touching and changing so many lives.

[@steveoooooo09]

Hot damn! You weren’t joking that this would be more of a documentary.

[@fuziontonygaming]

Boi leveled up

[@bodvarson1933]

Pastor Bob is a legend! The dude was a force in old school Christian metal.

[@youmothershouldknow4905]

And his hair. His Hair!!!

[@slamdancer777]

Sanctuary was an awesome time of fellowship too.

[@JoshMuscella]

As a Christian, I like this a lot. I grew up listening to a lot of CCM. I play bass at my church. I haven’t really enjoyed listening to or playing a lot of modern worship music as much as the older stuff and can’t stand listening to a lot of the CCM radio locally as they play the same “feel good” songs over and over... I want to be challenged by music.

[@benebluesman]

Living Sacrifice. Reborn Empowered was the album, good metal, challenging Christian lyrics.

[@JoshMuscella]

@@benebluesman I love Living Sacrifice. Most of the music I listen to regularly is from the Christian Metal scene.

[@williamsporing1500]

Yup, that’s why my bro and I write more ‘interesting’ Christian music

[@jimmymelendez1836]

My sister listens to the same type of feel good Christian music on her Christian music station of her choice. And I'm sick of it. It's the same type of sucky, crappy Christian music you hear on any Christian radio station. It's all she listens to. We're both Christians, mind you. I can pick out a few songs, maybe one that is good. There was a period when I didn't here any Christian music. But yeah, Christian music has been sucking since like the mid to late 2000's. When I was younger, I remember hearing Christian music. When I hear the Christian music I heard as a kid, I can think how it used to mean something.

[@dennismiller9681]

"I can't think of a less challenging form of music than CCM" -- so true. Must follow the standard format and only use the 4 anointed chords lest they be led astray, and also not allow themselves to be corrupted by those perverse non-diatonic notes

[@israelthacker8568]

"It sounds like Americana and Imagine Dragons had a bored baby" lmao 🤣 👌

[@filianablanxart8305]

Americana is offended .

[@pegc9889]

I still LOVE Christian music. These artists have weaknesses, like all of us. I use discernment and listen to music that glorifies JESUS CHRIST. When you listen to the lyrics, you can tell if the writer/singer is sincere or not.

[@JRNipper]

It isn't just the lyrics, the type of music also comes into question. Does it have a heavy bass beat? Demons are drawn to those.

[@willyf6172]

@@JRNipper Is that in the Bible or did you just make that up?

[@guitarambition9949]

@@JRNipper There are plenty of reasons to criticize christian music. That's not one of them.

[@heatherkeck7692]

You guys really sound like your jealous and you have no idea what your talking about

[@DoCyberCrime]

me an agnostic, that grew up in a hardcore christian house, i could totally write some very convincing lyrics that you would eat up. but i really dont believe that and only want money... just something for you to ponder on..

[@AnkerPeet]

The voice actor for Bob killed it

[@barringtonwomble4713]

Pastor Bob's hair killed it.

[@chaliceguard4575]

I love the old hymns, the songs of praise and worship. My family stopped attending our local church because it became rock and roll, dramatic performances every week, and lacked reverence and respect for the Lord that should be present in a House of God, where people go to worship Our Father and Jesus Christ. Those in the Christian music industry need to remember their priorities, and ask to whom do they really serve?

[@rhm5158]

As a Christian this just confirms what I feel about CCM. Very informative. Thanks

[@jacklandy5704]

Like I said before, I'd say Adam Neely's going to love this.

[@rockhurley3589]

The fact that an atheist/agnostic can be exposed to so much CCM, and NOT be moved to faith, speaks volumes to me.

[@revanrijndgreat8670]

I even have no idea why this is recommended to me - an atheist.

[@livingproofoutreach3982]

I totally agree and I perform gospel rap and I promote the gospel music

[@martinpaddle]

oh, it's very easy not to be moved by it

[@paigeodell]

Prophecy of Isaiah ✝️👑🛡️🗡️Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; For the hearts of this people have grown dull. ✝️🙏👑🛡️🗡️

[@heythere5121]

They're basically saying the same Christian stuff but singing it...sooo its not hard to not be moved by it. I like a lot of "Satan music" but I'm not moved to Satanism. Plenty of rappers I love are Islamic but I'm not praising Allah any time soon lol

[@toddmayer6859]

A real eye-opener. I'm now 70, so I was blessed to have lived in the era of the 70s when there was so much great spiritual worship ... and it seemed it was far more about substance and ministry. Then around 1980 I read an article about how the CCM industry was bought up by bean counters. The first thing they did was to fire Randy Stonehill ... because he was too old ... and Bob Bennett .. because he was too overweight. Sex sells, so they only wanted slender young sexy artists. They also put out this edict: "Singer songwriters ... we want no more I got saved you get saved too songs. Get commercial ... or get lost." I've been writing songs since the late 70s, but they are all about reaching out to the lost and about edification, which can mean challenging. I've been trusting God to make a way ... where there appears to be no way. I do believe we are way overdue for the rise of a music industry more bent on ministry than money

[@michaelhenderson6112]

The Afters, Barlow Girl, Todd Agnew, Skillet, Red, Switch foot, Third Day, Building 429, Inhabited, The Benjamin Gate, Casting Crowns, Fireflight, Flyleaf, Kutless, Leeland. There are good Christian bands out there, you just have to search for them. A lot of times, radio doesn't play the good music anymore.

[@kareemortega617]

Mike really wasn't lying when he said this is his most ambitious project... Fantastic video in the end!

[@fritzguldenpfennig2486]

Now I know why Skillet so often don't travel with other Christian bands. Even though right now they're touring with Feliz and Dixon

[@GoneAfterMidnight]

Every time I went to a show of theirs is been with the likes of Sick Puppies and From Ashes to New, etc. Makes a ton of sense watching this

[@edenwinter9055]

Just found your channel and I'm so impressed with your openness and insight. Amazing guests. I'm an atheist but support thoughtful and straight forward conversations surrounding faith and religion. Again your guests were incredible.

[@eddetom7417]

King David had a band with many members. My Father in heaven created music. He knows the heart.

[@domen6398]

Conspiracy theory: Crusade's keyboardist can't actually play

[@sicknashty3837]

no way

[@Ed_Lima777]

I want to find out who the keyboard player is so bad LOL

[@sicknashty3837]

@@Ed_Lima777 same

[@RatelHBadger]

Fun Fact: Crusade have gone through several drummers, one died in a tragic gardening accident.

[@sicknashty3837]

@@RatelHBadger is there an article on the garden death?

[@TheJchawk91]

All this just reminds of that South Park episode. Where cartman forms a Christian band.

[@edthejester]

Faith +1 With Token on bass

[@Kinnakeeter]

That episode was hilarious

[@BassandBuds]

This video just reaffirms how accurate the portrayal of CCM in that episode was (please react to that episode Mike)

[@Mark-co8gt]

And a stunning exposé of the damage pirated music does. Truly chilling.

[@hollymeredith9998]

Best episode next.to poor and stupid...Makin left turns

[@kensteorts7424]

Expose the bad stuff. Love it. Many of the reasons I started a college in 2000 that is serious about spiritual growth, professional skill in music, and academic knowledge of music for Christians to really commit to discipleship and serious musical work. There are many serious, passionate, creative Christians who are working with skill and character and can't stand the stuck place of the genre and work to stay away from the dark side of music and touring too. So much more to say but there are some significant future artists breaking through these problems.

[@tadpole2bullfrog201]

When Clayton talks about the band member who couldn't play their instrument, it reminded me of an experience I had. I saw Audio Adrenaline in concert in Philadelphia. I was standing right next to the sound board. I'd always thought Bob Herdman was the keyboardist of the band, but during this show he is playing guitar. At least he pretended like he was. I pay close attention to musicians and I'm noticing that there is no sound coming out his guitar- his strumming is not matching anything coming out of the speakers. So between one of the songs, I yell over to the guy on the board and say "There's nothing coming out of his guitar!" He points at Herdman's channel on the board and it is turned basically down to zero. He tells me "That's because he can't play!" The more I watch the more comical it became. He was the most animated of the bunch- jumping around, etc- and the reason is now obvious- it didn't matter how accurate his strumming was, no noise was coming out. I said to the sound guy "I thought he was the keyboardist anyways." He replied "He sucked at that too." The best part was when they did band member introductions with each member doing a quick little jam after their name was called. When they got to Herdman, the sound guy yelled over to me "Watch this!" As soon as Herdman's name was called, the sound guy popped his channel up from zero up to a ten, Herdman plucked a few high notes, and then the sound guy popped it back down to zero for the rest of the show. Pretty hilarious to watch. Another show was All Star United. Probably one of the best Christian rock concerts I saw. Was talking to the band afterwards and asked them how I could pray for them. Ian responded that I should pray for unity among the band members. He explained that everything was great but that life on the road tends to fracture relationships. When I pursued that and discussed faith among band members, he responded that a lot of the bands that were out there at the time (the 90's) had members who weren't Christians at all but were just in it for the money and that can add a lot of stress to the process (he didn't say that was true of them). Interesting stuff.

[@michaelholmes7147]

I still love old All Star United stuff. The seemed like legit and genuine dudes.

[@jjccarpentry]

Totally thought of Bob and AA as well😆

[@shanemcguire6428]

its all image i guess you used to actually have to have the talent

[@albertplaysguitar]

Thanks for sharing... I got to see them one time. Makes me re think the whole experience

[@bghoody5665]

I have no problem with him calling out CCM band members for not being able to play their instruments, but for him then to turn around and say the same thing does not go on in secular music is completely disingenuous. Most of the time the singers are lip syncing to auto tuned tracks and the bands are made up of session players.

[@nanthilrodriguez]

Bach was a virtuoso whose every musical product was deliberately his worship of God. Where's our modern Bach?

[@TheJLPShow]

His name is Neal Morse.

@@TheJLPShow this is the truth. Or Neal Morse Band IMO.

[@charlesmartiniii1405]

Guthrie goven is our new god, and gordon goodwin is the new Satan

[@justinfbabay]

Prince

[@ShadrachsGuitar]

lincoln brewster perhaps. I heard Steve from Toto is also a Christian

[@JakeTerch]

I LOVE hearing pipe organ in Catholic masses, whenever low pedal notes are held out and the whole church is vibrating it gives me chills every time. Lyrics aside, I also love how some pieces are joyous and others sound more melancholy in tone. And I think Ave Maria might be the most beautiful composition ever. But damn did I laugh out loud at CCM being too cookie-cutter and sounding like The Edge with the guitar work! Great video Mike, looking forward to part 2 and other long videos like this 🤘🏻

[@richardlewis1243]

I credit the pipe organ with my start at learning and loving to read and sing music. As a child I connected the hymnals with my voice and the music reverberating throughout the church, what a fond memory

[@izzyizzm8761]

That is because it is light and sound healing,Stain glass and sonic frequencies !godbless

[@genethemachine7169]

I've always said an actual worship service (i.e: hymns) should be lead by some type of organ. I've too much trouble singing with a piano!

[@BassGoBomb]

Me too when Genesis used the Taurus pedal .. 'Watcher of the Skies' etc., Or the rumble of an Elephant... :-)

[@LindsayMach]

Agreed! It breaks my heart that so many Catholic churches just sound like CCM when you go to Mass now! The Church has abandoned so much beauty!

[@buckoz3353]

9:40 To be fair Crowder is actually pretty experimental. Crowder actually still makes southern fried gospel music. Like he makes contemporary southern fried gospel music and it's pretty freaking awesome.

[@DWPF17]

This is something even small guys playing for church worship teams feel. I’ve been involved with church worship for over a decade now and am still a Christian. I couldn’t tell you the number of people I’ve heard echo a feeling of my own that worship as a genre isn’t for them or is boring. It makes a lot of church musicians question what they’re doing and even their faith itself.

[@mikestillwagon5675]

I play in a "Christian band" and frankly we have precisely zero interest in fitting the mold. We'll never be huge, and we know that. We're content to do what we do for the people who enjoy it.

[@dondiwood]

Why can't you find Clayton Ferguson anywhere online? Just a simple curiosity. I have no dog in this fight. I am a professional musician/producer/film-maker. Curious about your opinions expressed here.

[@jackjones3657]

Play for the world and your rewards will entirely be in the world. Play for Christ and your rewards will be eternal! Stay faithful brother!

[@4jefftvai]

Yep. And you are ultimately doing it for Gods glory.

[@belladonnascorner7240]

Any youtube link??

[@mikestillwagon5675]

@@belladonnascorner7240 try this. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6GYq6iPlKZ1qdE

[@JamesGreen-bf4jy]

The world needs more people like Pastor Bob and less televangelists.

[@conormurphy4328]

And more hair styles like Pastor Bob

[@BecomeTheKnight]

Pastor Bob is good people 🤘🔥

[@slamdancer777]

As someone that attended his church in the 80s and 90s I whole heartedly agree.

[@maarkaus48]

From what I understand, Keith Green went his own way label wise because he wanted to sell his records for whatever people wanted to pay, including for free. He used to be signed to CCM and Sparrow, but left them.

[@ImSuitsMe]

His documentary is really good. So is Rich Mullins story. I believe he had the same problems.

[@DesGardius-me7gf]

“Can’t ya see you’re not makin’ Christianity any better!? You’re just makin’ rock n’ roll worse!” -Hank Hill

[@justachonkyspider]

I went looking for this comment if I didn't find it I'd say it myself 😁👍

[@dougtibbetts857]

You get your religious opinions from cartoons?!? Whatda maroon Bugs bunny

[@danielricciardo7251]

As a Christian I am very interested in seeing where this goes. I would concur in saying most/all Christian music that plays on the radio is just a offshoot of the same bland pop that plays on any other top 40 station. I have spent hours listening to Christian rock trying to find some new bands, and I couldn't find anything I like that released recently. My favorite Christian music group is Becoming the Archetype; Terminate Damnation (2005) being my favorite album.

[@brunogrill3774]

Thank you red bull era daniel ricciardo very cool

[@christiantolliver6331]

Dude, Becoming The Archetype is one of my favorites too, SO FREAKING GOOD, I miss them

[@papabroly8000]

I mean aren't Glass Cloud at least loosely considered a christian band? And yeah, a friend recently introduced me to BtA, but, as someone who is no longer a believer. I find Aeon more entertaining. God Gives Head in Heaven may be 16 years old, but it's a new kind of hilarious to me.

[@Destractoid]

All of the "christian" bands I listen to aren't so much christians bands as much as they are good bands that are full of christians and so then have christian topics in a number of their songs. I've also noticed the albums specifically don't tend to be any newer than like 7 years old.

[@chimpaflimp]

Is this the sort of music that's otherwise known as 'Jesus is my boyfriend' music?

[@dominikweber4305]

Yes

[@dominikweber4305]

Although i personally knew it as "jesus is my daddy"

[@rickc2102]

Amy Grant and Margaret Becker were that for us in the late '80s, early '90s, lol.

[@barringtonwomble4713]

@@rickc2102 When Amy Grant crossed over into secular pop music she just replaced Jesus with "Baby".

[@markdumas4587]

@@rickc2102 u remember Crystal Lewis

[@BillyJr68]

Long time ago I worked at Glorietta Baptist Encampment in New Mexico which had a bookstore/music store. They actually had a chart that compared secular bands to christian bands....Like "If you like Journey, you'll like Petra...If you like AC/DC or Judas Priest, you'll like Rez Band" As long as christian media follows trends, that will always be the case.

[@tinkerbelle2271]

I listened to one of Petra’s albums with the song “Ancient of Days,” and I must say, all their songs on that album are biblically sound.

[@BillyJr68]

@@tinkerbelle2271 yeah but that doesn’t really have anything to do with what I’m talking about

[@tinkerbelle2271]

@@BillyJr68 I just happen to have listened to one of Petra’s albums. Which I found biblically sound. I commented because I don’t know many of the bands mentioned here as I am not American.

[@rebekahmcclintock716]

I sincerely appreciate the honesty in your work and video. I have felt this way for many years. This is why we have to keep praying bc they are truly lost. Even though it may anger us at times. Thank you all for bringing this to life.

[@jeffsmith1819]

I have struggled with contemporary Christian music for years. Follow the money!! It’s so sad and disheartening As a rock drummer who got saved and now a pastor and worship leader I have noticed the cookie cutter sounds.

[@TheHazeKiller]

As a Christian, I really appreciate how fair, well-researched, and accurate this is. You always expect these things from the music when you're a Christian, and it really does cover everything in a veil of skepticism. Like, are these people just playing a part, or are they for real?

[@sur-real3416]

Interesting in the video, the host keeps referring to his guest speakers as.. "self-identified Christians" It took me some years to realize much of my favorite CCM songs are direct biblical references. They paraphrase or speak exactly of certain passages. There is a huge variety all different kinds of music including worship music, oftentimes worship music is favored by somewhat defined lines. Elder members and it would seem Catholics would prefer the old style hymns, whereas younger people or Gen x I guess prefer the more modern worship music. For myself, born and raised jewish, began by chance, and then self-study in the Bible and finally came to Christ on my own. I am a christian. Not a self-identified christian. Just a christian. And it turns out the music that I like, so many of the words come straight from his. Suggestion listen to more of what you do like. The title of the video is almost offensive. And my understanding is that the Beatles when they were in England were vilified only to be loved here in america, and that rock and roll in the 50s was all but banned depending on what part of the country you live that was far too outrageous. There are some I would say so-called Christian artist that I don't like their music I choose not to listen to them, and it seems very commercialized much like Christmas is with Santa claus. Or Easter for that matter. Speaking of which how about for Easter instead of hunting for eggs children make crosses out of popsicle sticks and learn what it's all about

[@AaronPLehmann]

Technically, Easter's not about the cross. Good Friday's about the cross.

[@nyar-heramercy]

Wow this is so true. I find your idea of making a cross better than what we do today

[@allismama]

@@AaronPLehmann Easter is about the risen Christ....not about the death on the cross.....

[@allismama]

I agree with you this guy is making comments yet not listening to the words of songs....the lyrics are mostly from the word of God....

[@AaronPLehmann]

@@allismama that's what I said. Good Friday is about the Cross, Easter is about the Resurrection.

[@pizzarat7825]

Im a practicing Christian and I cant stand modern praise and worship music. My biggest gripe with the genre is that it all sounds exactly the same. They all sound whiny and fake.

[@harrysachs2274]

It's whiny and fake, that's why.

[@forrestday6492]

Sounds like U2.

[@gibby8141]

Agree! It all sounds the same! CCM from the 1990s was excellent, and very distinctive! Rich Mullins, The Winans, Michael Card etc.!

[@williamsporing1500]

Lol....my bro and I write Christian music, and it’s throwback 70’s rock and prog rock

[@forrestday6492]

@@williamsporing1500 that’s U2, man. LOL.

[@dantee1138]

Finally a teaser of Become the Knight MCU!!! Seriously, great job Mike.

[@cbrindle91]

"All right, guys, this is gonna be so easy. All we have to do to make Christian songs is take regular old songs and add Jesus stuff to them. See? All we have to do is cross out words like "baby" and "Darling" and replace them with Jesus." ~ Eric Cartman, Faith +1 That said. CCM literally embodies the definition of a "hack writer." 🎤⏬

[@godisawesomeasalways6004]

Literally all I could think of watching this whole thing

[@s.f432]

For real though, Eric Cartman wrote more melodious songs in his Faith +1 album than today's CCM.

[@stevenblack1155]

Christian music, via a friend, was what drew me to Jesus, and has encouraged me on my 38 walk with him. People have been tearing down CCM that whole time for various reasons - legalism, jealousy, narrowmindedness....all sad things. i lived in Nashville in the 90's for 7 years and crossed paths with many in CCM. Everyone in it is human, as am I, so we are all fallen, but I think it's a very genuine genre based on the many artists I met. Many CCM record companies were sold to secular companies and that did change parts of the industry. I think it's just sad at the Christians and non-Christians that continually throw stones at CCM.

[@nurgleschosen8145]

Honestly as an atheist i didn't ever care about this genre and i couldn't possibly understand the spirit i guess behind the lyrics but this is interesting to listen to. I would love to see more of this type of content. A like from me.

[@theleap2946]

As someone who watched from the outside in, being a part of a family that consumed this world, it is pretty spot on. I couldn’t hit play fast enough when I saw this one my feed.

[@davidmatheny1993]

As someone who tries to live a life after Christ, it is tough to get into the modern worship music scene because it feels like often the same recycled feel good lyrics vs. anything challenging or admitting real issues of the soul or within the church itself. There were some good exceptions in the 90s and early 2000s, but the past decade has basically turned into everyone copying the same top worship bands/leaders like Bethel, Hillsong, Chris Tomlin, Elevation, etc.

[@mvunit3]

Checkout Neal Morse, he was formerly the co-founder of the LA Progressive Rock band "Spocks Beard". He has quite a few albums and side projects that are Christian based and secular, and plays with astounding musicians. To be honest, I wonder if he is even _known_ in the Christian market because the music may be beyond the industry.

[@Babs42]

Theres only a few good artists that write good stuff the rest is kind kind of meh.

[@Babs42]

I always liked David Crowder as well just because he's so eclectic.

[@williamsporing1500]

Lol....give my brother and I a listen. Windswept hill, the road. It’s on KZbin. We aren’t the greatest singers or musicians, but I guarantee. It’s different than any modern ‘Christian music’......I don’t know if that’s good or bad lol

[@PurpleIrishSweater]

I miss Rich Mullins…but I am old…. That being said, Dustin Kensrue blew me away with a bunch of his music

[@frankyyy510]

Man this video is everything I believe about ccm. I’m a Worship Pastor and I’m starting to run out of songs that I feel are great and really spirit filled. So sad.

[@janethefriend-awakened33]

You may have to go back to some of the stuff grandma sang and used to love. Alot of this new stuff is just noise and vain repetition.

[@seank.2589]

I'm in the process of auditioning for my church's worship team and when the lead worship pastor was talking with me about my faith musical ability, he said the guitar has tonal versatility and I don't have to fit in the copy of the typical ambient worship guitar sound and I have some tonal independence within reason. Really interested in seeing how versatile.

[@Yenneffer]

Oh wow, this really is like a documentary. Good work! Props to all of the guest for giving their insight! I am not very familiar with CCM so this was an interesting look into it. Looking forward to part two!

[@savannahrobinson3830]

Reborn Christian here 🙋‍♀️ I didn't know much about the CCM industry before watching this video and I've never actually listened to CCM or Gospel music. It's always felt insincere, generic and has never 'spoken' to me or drawn me to explore it more. I don't go to church or worship meetings either. It might sound cheesy but I find more truth in rock and metal lyrics and these are the only genres that truly expose or discuss the serious issues and don't sugarcoat everything. The comment you made about it being a safe and non challenging place for Christians is very true! Not just with music but when it comes to discussing other aspects of the Bible or the lost books of the Bible. I have never heard a church discussing prophetic or apocryphal books and this is exactly what fascinates me! No church has ever been able to introduce me to God or make me feel close to Him. The only place I could feel connected was in nature and by myself. Christianity has been very distorted and so many people are confused and blind. The church has been and still is the biggest problem with Christianity.

[@BeachBumZero]

There are churches out there that are truly dedicated to following Jesus and authentic, but it does take time to truly search for those churches. The great news is most churches now have their services posted online on their website or KZbin or Facebook page, so it is a lot easier to check them out quickly.

[@AceGoodheart]

Not at all judging you Savannah, but I urge you to seek Jesus with all your heart. There's no better friend than Jesus. He's always there. Spend time praying daily. Read the Bible daily, Worship daily. Asking the Lord into your life is just the beginning of being a Christian. Christianity is about a growing relationship with your Lord and Saviour. God bless and I hope these words find you well.

[@thomasskokan4644]

Wondering what you think of Soul Asylum's Fearless Leader ? I personally don't feel any higher spiritual being WANTS to be worshipped .....EVER ....One must choose between following ( As a teacher , ie... a Gandhi / Vinoba Bahave / / Socrates / Lao Tse / Thoreau / Which is hard soul searching WORK ) Or worshipping ( which leads to the current disaster we find ourselves embroiled in ( ie ...Trump ) Hero worship only creates demigods ....

[@johnathonlane2824]

This makes me appreciate Kanye’s Jesus Is King even more. He didn’t fall into the norms of the typical genre he whether or not you like the album or not, Kanye was not lazy when he made that album. Not only did he have reverence for God, he made art with it

[@orlock20]

Beth Hart has written some good faith based songs. She sang Show Me the Way as a contestant on Star Search and will slap in Spirit of God and There In Your Heart in at her concerts.

[@harrisonswift1416]

Aggree to a degree. If Kanye has given his life to Christ truly, i pray that he continues in Faith. However, it can be harmful to surround himself with the Osteen / Prosperity Gospel crew.

[@leswhite3524]

To effectively do CCM, one MUST have a '73 Thinline Telecaster and/or a Taylor acoustic. There's a great little book published in 1999 called Snakes in the Lobby....