I see "within reason" for the first tenet meaning that while you should act with compassion to all, if you are in danger or a bad circumstance then compassion sometimes just isn't the move to make.
@Beauweir2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was by someone from the temple and then it seems that it was a Catholic channel. I am an atheist but I enjoyed the philosophy etc in this discussion and it never hurts to hear another perspective
@Emily-me Жыл бұрын
I was raised by my secular mother and got my Catholic dad every other weekend. I suffered great religious turmoil growing up and made a lot of mistakes. Stumbling in the dark. I accepted the truth of Christ at around 20 and finally came around to Catholicism a few months ago at 25. I want better for my future children. It isn’t perfect, but I got here. I have in a large way the rosary to thank for my conversion. There is hope for your child. It may come with pain, but there is hope.
@therealivydawg Жыл бұрын
What is true about Christ?
@Emily-me Жыл бұрын
My secular mother was Jewish. Per the Jews Christ was not real or was a false prophet.
@soraialeventhal38929 ай бұрын
God bless you!
@LouisaWatt3 жыл бұрын
The conversation about empathy being tempered by rational thought when dealing with evil is the most pertinent thing I have heard in months. I had an abusive marriage and my empathy was always leveraged against my best interests. Truly selfish, unscrupulous people rely on manipulating others through guilt and empathy. For the sake of not caving to evil, sometimes you have to use detatched rationality to make choices
@user-tz1fd1hl8t3 жыл бұрын
So this dude wasnt abusive before you were married? Did he just wake up one day and put his hands on you? I doubt it
@LouisaWatt3 жыл бұрын
@@user-tz1fd1hl8t you're right. There were warning signs which I should have paid attention to rather than believing his verbal promises. I falsely believed that things would get better when reality was they got much worse.
@kristasavage65292 жыл бұрын
This is actually a perfect example of why “within reason” is included in the tenant
@barefootarts7372 жыл бұрын
This is actually what Satanists believe also. The usefulness of reason to temper narrow sentiments. The people in this video don’t know much about the topic at all. For example, who wants Christianity to be represented by someone who is not a practicing Christian?… to talk about reason.
@feralgoat37712 жыл бұрын
Evil is a matter of opinion
@nicolelowe36193 жыл бұрын
if it weren't for internet or KZbin, we would be stuck with just what we hear at mass, blessed if the priest is holy, but what if he's not? what would happen? who would explain to us what's happening around us? CNN?😔 no Matt Fradd, no Trent Horn, etc so Thank God for People like them.
@HeroQuestFans3 жыл бұрын
Donatist heresy held that if a priest was a hypocrite in terms of his faith or moral behavior, then the sacraments he performed would be invalid. the Church (and the great St. Augustine) rejected this premise. yes, the celebrant should be holy, but even if he is not, it is Christ who supplies the grace. so long as the form and matter are valid. you can ask a canon lawyer, but unfaithful priests don't invalidate sacraments. God works effective grace through the sacraments he has instituted but is not constrained by them....
@nicolelowe36193 жыл бұрын
@@HeroQuestFans amen. the sacrament is always holy
@susanrodrigues8113 жыл бұрын
@@HeroQuestFans This is true, but the graces received through the mass celebrated by a true holy faithful priest are much more/greater then when celebrated from an unfaithful priest or one living immorally
@Ca8tisawesome3 жыл бұрын
@@HeroQuestFans I think Nicole was more making a point about the moral teaching of the priest. There are a lot of priest leading their parishioners into error, and their parishioners don't even know. I think of a priest I had who claimed love was love and there was nothing wrong with being in a homosexual marriage.
@RodDop-us9ex3 жыл бұрын
@@Ca8tisawesome It's hard to raise voice against them when we know there are many ready to bite heads off....devilish behavior tbh...
@michellemailloux24833 жыл бұрын
Steven Rmmelsburg, I had a reversion at 40! You are so delightful; really genuine. Blessed be God!
@civitatedei92243 жыл бұрын
Thanks be to God Michelle! Just like my conversion at 40! And thank you for your kind words, not too common on this topic. May the Lord keep and bless you and your family!!!
@terezka53402 жыл бұрын
I can attest. Our lady has been the one who from grace of her son has been intermediating my liberation from demonic possession. There is so much hate towards her from the supernatural and nothing stands chance against her. Holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners.
@ochem123 Жыл бұрын
Pray to Our Lady of the Rosary. Do not use the “Divine Mercy” Chaplet, as it promotes heresy and is from evil forces. Faustina talked to (a) Demon(s), not Jesus. Her diary is creepy and demonic. Antipope JP2 was instrumental in getting this demonic devotion in the mainstream. It should be avoided. It distracts from the true use of the Rosary with traditional prayers.
@rebekahbrown9306 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@loosetube5417 Жыл бұрын
Have mercy on us, most Holy birthgiver of God ❤️
@marlonecorpuz42119 ай бұрын
you interviewed the wrong man to this subject he is bias. you should interviewed the author of the tenant.
@Dorvin559 ай бұрын
Hail Satan
@cyberhighdiver3 жыл бұрын
This stuff about as heavy as a tablespoon of neutron star...and if you don't already know, THAT'S REALLY HEAVY MY BRO
@JHarder10003 жыл бұрын
Excellent show. However, these"tenets are only advocated by one branch of Satanism, The Satanic Tempe. The "Church Of Satan' is much different, and deserves a separate critique.
@JoshSteed2 жыл бұрын
The Satanic Temple are fundamentally a humanist pressure group. In my view, a true Christian should have no problem with either their ethos or their goals, as the Biblical Jesus clearly preached a message of unconditional love and acceptance. The Bible warns us of a wolf in sheep's clothing, which could be Evangelical Christianity - there is no mention of a sheep in wolf's clothing. Contrastingly, the doctrine of the Church of Satan promote a heavily individualistic and nihilistic philosophy, to the point where it seems to me to legitimise and encourage undiluted self-interest, unfettered pride and an exaggerated sense of self-importance, making that organisation a far more legitimate target for criticism from Christians and humanists alike. Ask yourself which side you are on in the eternal battle. Is it which holy name you evoke that determines whether your actions are good or evil? Or is whether or not your ethics and actions lead you to behave with compassion towards all sentient beings ? Its not Christ vs the World - the good Samaritan helped the passer-by, he didn't try to convert him. Its not theist vs atheist - thats a meaningless argument, until we can agree on what 'God' means. Its universal love/respect vs dogmatic hatred, which equates to self-righteousness vs tolerance, or helping others vs persecuting them, inclusive vs divided societies, peace vs war, Heaven on Earth for mankind vs Hell
@Skurian_krotesk2 жыл бұрын
I agree but i would add that this is not the complete picture. The temple of satan advocates science and the way this works is that our best understanding of the universe is always the most modern interpretation of our collection of knowledge. The satanic church is much older and therefore not as fitting for modern society as the temple of satan. Also i would argue it has alot less active members. So in conclusion yes they would certainly have to be receiving different judgements but the church of satan is more or less irrelevant because it is already falling into the background and fading away. I highly doubt that any of those people who where openminded enaugh to go to the satanic church would be too ignorant to see that the satanic temple is such a clear upgrade. The only real difference is that the church of satan still belives in some degree of supernatural and has a more dramatic approach of moral guidelines. Which you know... It is what it is.
@bottleofdehydratedwater83242 жыл бұрын
What about the Luciaros?
@kiryu-chan5772 жыл бұрын
Tenants are just a facade to lure people in. Ultimate goal is to sell your soul. If only they really knew the truth about what happens after they sell it.
@Skurian_krotesk2 жыл бұрын
@@kiryu-chan577 they lure people in by telling them how to live a life as a decent person as opposed to an egocentric and ignorant adult-child. Then as you catch the lure and you change yourself to be a better person you are being punished by living a great life with the only downside of not being able to harm other people anymore. The question i have is.. How exactly do you think you are losing or selling anything by learning and adapting? Why would you think that getting information will cause you to be less than before? If you want to belive that god created you, go on. But why would you let your god given brain rot away instead of using it by confronting yourself with opposing ideas. If you think those well designed tenets are horrible and false. Use the same type of analytical skills on the ten commandments please. They could use an update. Thats why those satanists came up with a new guideline to live by. We are a modern society, not a millenia old tribe of slave owners.
@jenzimmerman90793 жыл бұрын
Matt, I appreciate your devil's advocate questions in this episode.
@oswaldofranco12873 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Matt and Mr. Rummelsburg!
@Sacredservants2 жыл бұрын
I think the point of the santanic church is to keep the separation btween church and state we all have the right to follow religion of our choosing . All of these tenants and these santaic practices are against other religious push back. For example. Abortions and there abortion ritual
@JP2GiannaT3 жыл бұрын
On the point about their art being ugly...keep in mind that a lot of their stuff is aimed for shock value.
@IloveJesusChristNowandForever3 жыл бұрын
For a self-referential materialist, there's no logical way out of the loop. In order to overcome this evil, supernatural intervention must take place. That is why prayer and the sacraments are the best and most important way to reach these souls. I was gifted with a supernatural experience to overcome my wayward stroll toward secular humanism. Thank God for my family praying for me! God bless all watching and please ask St. Michael to defend you in battle, along with your guardian angel and the intercession of Mary our mother and all the angels and saints. God bless you both for soberly addressing this important topic.
@barbaraepley83583 жыл бұрын
Barnhardt had a video up about "niceness". That was the 7 tenets in a nutshell. I am glad that people are actually seeing these things as they truly are.
@angelrock82543 жыл бұрын
He is correct with public education. I babysit my grandchildren so the parents can work and one is exceptionally bright and she is done with school work in 10 minutes and is expected to sit quietly and surf the internet. After discovering that I find things/projects and stuff for her to do to occupy her time. I agree its very eye opening.
@realdealreds25783 жыл бұрын
Public education is only as good as we fight for it to be. When our government is run by people who don't think government can't work, but that it shouldn't work, that it should just protect the interests of the wealthy and well connected, then we get bad schools. That's directly in line with the libertarian, pro market, pro capitalist sentiments of the Satanic Temple
@c.a.2003 жыл бұрын
I already knew from basic life experience how accurate and profound The Screwtape Letters are, but this certainly adds a new dimension.
@scapegoatiscariot27672 жыл бұрын
I just heard this man equate humanist values with psychopathy. Sir, I am glad you go this far. You are pulling your own curtain back while you adjust the knobs, to be viewed by all.
@finallythere1002 жыл бұрын
You are missing some key points. He pulls his own curtain back, but still you do not see. It is not a criticism of you, per se. More explanation may be needed for you to understand what he is saying .
@viarah15365 ай бұрын
These tenets are not what I expected. Thought provoking discussion, I plan to actually look more into them and dispel the myths and preconceptions I had growing up.
@stephendecaturjr.74693 жыл бұрын
Truth is the ultimate form of restraint on human autonomy.
@barefootarts7372 жыл бұрын
Truth helps define autonomy. After all, the ‘boundaries if the self’ are evident, and are preeminent to self-autonomy.
@daracue56983 жыл бұрын
Mary will always bring us to her son! I'm catholic because of the Blessed Virgin. *edit bad distracted typing. 😊 thanks!
@gma9043 жыл бұрын
I am not lost today because of Our Lady and Her prayers for me.
@TheKingAmongThem3 жыл бұрын
O
@killianmiller61073 жыл бұрын
*to her son. Remember that going to Mary is to get to Jesus through the person who knew him most intimately.
@robertjosephkleist20043 жыл бұрын
Mary will always point us toward her son Jesus Christ (John 2:5).
@daracue56983 жыл бұрын
@@killianmiller6107 yes, I made thr correction. Somehow I messed up the typing. Thank!
@benh5803 жыл бұрын
The biggest lie the devil told is that he doesn't exist.
@CaptainFantastic2223 жыл бұрын
Satan doesnt exist. And funny thing is Satantic temple is non theistic and they dont have belief in magical mysticical creatures
@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou2 жыл бұрын
The biggest lie god ever told was that he is good and just.
@benh5802 жыл бұрын
@@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou God is perfect and doesn't lie.
@pokedum67042 жыл бұрын
@@benh580 no he isn’t, he doesn’t exist and satanists don’t actually believe in Satan. Lol
@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou2 жыл бұрын
@@benh580 Case in point. If you're being genuine,, I'm sure you came to that conclusion from either the Bible or another person who believes in that genocidal maniac.
@dh82413 жыл бұрын
not gonna lie, i want nothing to do with satan or satanism, but the guest wasn’t making much sense to me
@TheChesnutCafe3 жыл бұрын
It's very obvious the guest decided any tenets put forward by the Satanic Temple must be awful and then tried to justify that decision, rather than just examining the tenets on their merit
@slimfrinky3 жыл бұрын
@@TheChesnutCafe Member of TST here. I believe that you just hit the nail on the proverbial head.
@commissary41962 жыл бұрын
I found the guest made incredible sense from the vague tenets.
@matiasmwanga16783 жыл бұрын
Thank you matt for this interesting and informative video
@kubodrdul3 жыл бұрын
When I was watching this it was showing 666 likes, so I liked it too. You know, just in case. Also, you Matt look like a protestant youth pastor but in a very good way. Like the show. God bless you.
@francismarion-swampfox94522 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Steve, you can't act like these tenets are corrupt in any way.
@KarenStewartCamden9 ай бұрын
Christians go out of their way to see evil in places that don't exist
@caroldonaldson59363 жыл бұрын
"Evangelized into the world..." That's a very good way of describing the call and infiltration of the current culture into our lives, homes and education systems!👍🙏✝️
@jocelynrosal95303 жыл бұрын
God blessed to both of you brothers...Praise the Lord Jesus Christ with Mary our Virgin Mother forever and ever...Amen
@simonslater90243 жыл бұрын
hi Alex,from Simon thank you and God bless you. May the holy angel’s watch over and protect you especially your guardian angel. Praise Jesus and Mary always!!!
@LostArchivist3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who has been seeing a synchonicity of the Mass readings with the current events and felt a potency to the Advent and Christmas readings uniquely this year?
@helena_augusta3 жыл бұрын
It's like that all the time. We are confined to time/space as we are 'matter'. However, 'salvation history' is the past, the presence, and the future. Much like what is spiritually occurring at the Mass/Divine Liturgy.
@LostArchivist3 жыл бұрын
@@helena_augusta Sacred Scripture is the Living Word of God, so yes you are right. But, weare not merely matter though, we are also spirit. The soul is spiritual and we have an eternal destiny. Either way, I meant in a more distinct way. It is not merely this day and that, but an ongoing narrative. Obviously there is an element of that always. I guess what I am saying is that the Scriptures are speaking more loudly, maybe more clearly than normal.
@jovialmoshahary15563 жыл бұрын
Awakening conversation on how secularied ideas deceives.
@elainecdsilva4153 жыл бұрын
this is a mind blowing interview guys!
@themobbit90613 жыл бұрын
“There is always hope with Mary” 😭❤️🙏🏼
@alextollinche99473 жыл бұрын
Yes there is Hope with Mary and Jesus remember the act of Love to save a soul. Jesus Mary I Love You Save Souls Save the Consecrated .God Bless us all .😊🌅🌅🌅🌅🌅🌅🌅
@simonslater90243 жыл бұрын
Amen. Praise Jesus and Mary always!!!
@alextollinche99473 жыл бұрын
@@simonslater9024 God Bless you Simon .😊🌅🌅🌅😊
@TheBibleCode3 жыл бұрын
Mary? Was she crusified for you? Is she YHVH in the flesh? ... Your hooe is on Mary??...... BLASFEMI!!!!
@alextollinche99473 жыл бұрын
@@TheBibleCode Hope is in Jesus and Mary study your Bible 🌅🌅🌅
@paulgibbons23203 жыл бұрын
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The thing about the devil is that there is no truth in him.
@dasan91783 жыл бұрын
Actually, the really deceptive thing about Satan is that he tells the truth much of the time; however, within that truth is a lie. Though the lie is frequently not obvious, it’s a left turn to Hell for the unwary.
@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou2 жыл бұрын
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. If that's the case, Jesus and all followers of God are in hell. After all, they want people to ascend to heaven. Is that not a good intention?
@commissary41962 жыл бұрын
@@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou Unless there is an objective altruistic goal. Those good intentions will bring negative consequences. Just read into the saying. There are explicit and implicit notions.
@pokedum67042 жыл бұрын
Nor does he exist
@JustAReminder Жыл бұрын
It seems like the term "Satanism" has caused an alarm bell to go off and you're reasoning backwards into a forgone conclusion. OBVIOSULY the tenents of Satanism are bad because satan. Both of them thought the tenets were fine and had to do serious mental work to prove to themselves that they were actually bad. Another conclusion is their first reaction was correct and that Satanism as religion really doesn't have anything to do with satan outside of iconography.
@MilanJibril2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the picture argument at 16:36 is that cake batter is in preparation to become a cake, whereas a fetus is already a human. A true comparison would be sperm cells to the batter, where the cooking of the batter is akin to the merging of sperm and egg.
@faithstanley22632 жыл бұрын
You realize that’s literally what that was right. It was a sperm and an egg fertilizing as you yourself said! A sperm and egg are not human nor is a fetus human. A human is a human
@jonsalmonowicz92823 жыл бұрын
"This society, as it stands, does not deserve to exist." Thank you Matt for being such an incredible light in the world!
@user-qm8cc5go8r2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess it’s time for another flood 😂 just need to find a 585 year old to build the floating zoo lol
@sonder1522 жыл бұрын
@@user-qm8cc5go8r skip the flood, this world needs to be burned by fire already, it's beyond redemption
@say10..8 ай бұрын
Funny thing is that Anton LaVey, the founder of Church of Satan, would probably agree with a lot of what this video is saying. 🤘
@elainecdsilva4153 жыл бұрын
Shivers …. I prayed with the both of you the Hail Mary and St. Michael.
@johnjohnson28253 жыл бұрын
The big picture is that America is NOT a Christian nation. This country was based on the principle of religious freedom. Meaning you can practice whatever religion you want.
@buddytrevino82593 жыл бұрын
I just kept thinking of that star wars dude, "It's a TRAP!"
@davidvanvranken15953 жыл бұрын
Admiral Ackbar
@dasan91783 жыл бұрын
True, but if you can’t see where and what the trap is, you’re going to fall into it at some point.
@dilligaf10092 жыл бұрын
I say that about marriage
@HeroQuestFans3 жыл бұрын
"do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.... now then, here's a bunch of laws anyway..."
@kinghoodofmousekind29063 жыл бұрын
Crowley: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." LaVey: "Awesome, well put! Now, lemme put a few rules..." Crowley: "..."
@MicahMicahel3 жыл бұрын
The current Satanists are just far leftist SJWs that are naive and don't realize anything. They are mostly trolling Christians. The Crowley Satanists were into being mean and degrading people for fun. The current Satanists are trying to prove you can be a good person without God. It's like the tale of the person that doesn't believe in ghosts so they stay over night in the haunted house. They don't believe yet they occupy an evil spirit's identity. .. because they don't believe they think they are doing something harmless.
@slimfrinky3 жыл бұрын
@@MicahMicahel Member of The Satanic Temple here. I am not far left, and pretty far from a SJW. Yes, I do consider my religion to be Satanism, yes, I do take it seriously. We have very little to do with either LaVey or Crowley, other than some aesthetic choices. I'm a member because after leaving Christianity and examining other religions, I found it obvious to me that they were all false, making me a serious atheist. However, I missed things like the sense of community found in church, and the rituals. Then I discovered the Satanic Temple a few years ago, and after reading into it a lot and learning more about how religions are defined and why it is possible to have an atheistic religion, I signed up with a quickness. TST has been able to provide everything that I could have wanted from a religion, and I am so happy to be a part of it.
@MicahMicahel3 жыл бұрын
@@slimfrinky It seems to me that you still believe or else you would've picked one of the atheistic religions like Buddhism... no? My understanding of Satan is that he tempts us with the idea that we can do it alone... that we don't need God because we become godlike ourselves. He's just holding us down. Is that right? Or does that sound like Anton Levey? (he was an atheist as well). You are aware of the SJW Satanists? They also seem to feel an attraction to Christianity. Maybe they're sneaking a little Christianity into the experience and in ten years half of them will be born again Christians. Whenever there's a temptation, people typically rationalize it with themselves. You miss Christianity so you rationalize you reentry into it? The ceremonies are based on Christian ceremonies? Shouldn't Satanists reject the whole idea of church and do it alone... or at least have people worship them? It seems kind of non-Satanic to even worship Satan. I'm not sure if that's ever been the case. I know there were lots of claims of it. Do you know if there were real Satanists that worshipped Satan? You took the temptation but still need a feeling of meaning that can only be found in church.... doesn't that say something? Seeing that since you used to be Christian you can't help but be always referring to your old CHristian feelings... even digging them out.
@davidabner88852 жыл бұрын
"it's deeply disturbing that people are doing good things in the name is Satan"... not nearly as disturbing as all the evil things done in the name of Jesus. You guys are so funny
@dwightschrute9002 жыл бұрын
Cope
@shanerobison33922 жыл бұрын
Cope
@troothseeka41162 жыл бұрын
You're right, both are disturbing, because both scenarios are contradictory. By saying that you acknowledge Jesus is good and Satan is not good.
@marklizama55602 жыл бұрын
Only the Satanic Temple is not doing good (and no one on this video said they were) they’re promoting evils like the slaughter of unborn babies in the womb.
@louisecooper25802 жыл бұрын
But this is so true though and the satanic Bible is my truthful and thought full than the Christian Bible
@emanualellinas53202 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious. You guys are clutching pearls so hard! Bless your hearts.
@friendlyfire75092 жыл бұрын
Mockers are gonna mock
@BlackieNuff Жыл бұрын
@@friendlyfire7509 And dipshits gonna follow and believe without objective questioning.
@selfademus10 ай бұрын
friendlyfire7509 you don't seem to get it. you mock yourselves. ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴠᴇʀʏ ᴏᴡɴ ᴘᴀʀᴏᴅʏ. that's what's so funny. it's like looking up swear words to prove the dictionary is unrefined, lacking in sophistication and profane.
@smokyquartz58172 ай бұрын
@@friendlyfire7509Thinkers gonna think.
@AlejandroGarcia-ek3uy3 жыл бұрын
The devil is the father of lies, and murderer from the beginning. Sometimes parades as an angel of light: all this is in the New Testament.
@PRHILL96963 жыл бұрын
god must be the devil then
@PRHILL96963 жыл бұрын
@QQminusS Satan keeps us from doing evil which is great
@Softlacesam3 жыл бұрын
Without Satan, the church would fail. “God” killed more people than satan ever did.
@PRHILL96963 жыл бұрын
@@Softlacesam so true
@norkathompson13463 жыл бұрын
Compassion is not ok? Emphaty is not ok? ok I guess not when you have to be homophobic... I get it... You guys are making this look like the devil is within, when evil is in numerous religions that follow your god....
@kyrieeleison27932 жыл бұрын
I was a formal member of TST and had a brief stint of minor leadership in a chapter in the PNW. I left when the in-fighting and "purity"-spiraling began and accusations of sexism, racism, "transphobia" etc. caused a major split with the National TST leadership and the local Chapters. The leadership realized they couldn't just let anyone in, despite their supposed liberal/progressive/open-door political views, and they instituted their own distorted form of theological study, which also alienated chapters. By the grace of God, I was able to see that my hedonism--particularly fornication--was causing great distress and discord in my life. Once I stopped the sexual sins, more and more of God's grace and mercy, the light of truth and goodness, was revealed to me, until I found myself finishing my catechism classes I abandoned in my youth a few years ago, just before the "pandemic" hit. These people literally suffer from demonic oppression, perhaps some of them possession, and definitely generational demons from sexual sins (divorced parents, fornication, pornography, prostitution, etc). The only way they'll be saved is if they manage to stop fornicating/watching pornography/etc. and many of them won't be able to stop that until they stop the alcoholism and drug use. I pity them, and I thank God every morning I wake for the chance to atone for the evil I've done. Perhaps the theological study and aping Latin will impart some grace upon them to see how misguided and lost they are, but mostly they just serve as a way for everyone else to see that liberalism is Satanic and always has been.
@laurentheheiress982 жыл бұрын
I’m glad for your conversion/return. But the “pandemic” started less than two years ago now. So you had started catechism classes, then went into satanism, and back again? What got you into satanism?
@ZyroZoro10 ай бұрын
I'm at 11:58 and I have to stop. This is ridiculous. I thought he was going to be intellectually honest. He's really taking the word "reason" in the tenet and saying that it doesn't actually mean reason, but instead subjective opinion. This is some next level dishonesty.
@nobody.of.importance19 күн бұрын
I looked up these videos just to see if any christian COULD be honest about them and I've had no luck so far. That being said, I've been enjoying Checkpoint Church's channel. Highly recommended, he's not a condescending liar and actually accepts criticism and honest discussion.
@bobbettedavis91682 жыл бұрын
These 7 tenets are a mockery of the 7 Sacraments instituted by CHRIST.
@ptahparadoxia49107 ай бұрын
I am a Minister of Satan and a member of TST speaking only for myself. Sincerely, with as much respect and charity as I can muster, I'm still left to call Rummelsburg's ramblings here (and in his own video) little more than him reading a bunch of Christian-alarmist hokum INTO the seven tenets. I reget to have to say such things, but I have to call such sophistry like I see it. Anyhow. If you'd like to have good-faith discussion about the tenets with a Minister of Satan, I'd be happy to do so, or to put you in contact with TST spokespeople on the matter. Come what may, I wish you peace and prosperity.
@michellemailloux24833 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!! God bless you both and your families.
@MartySarmaidoff3 жыл бұрын
He actually answers those emails too. It's amazing
@mychannelofawesome2 жыл бұрын
The satanists say this stuff, but then burn down catholic churches and perform sacrilege on Our Lady. So empathetic and compassionate.
@smokyquartz58172 ай бұрын
Which church burned down?
@frankie.m.pepper69743 жыл бұрын
Minor point, many cartoons have been ugly and distorted for over twenty years.
@nobody.of.importance19 күн бұрын
Ugly to you, maybe. And distorted? You do know what cartoons are, right? x)
@ForgingThought2 жыл бұрын
Satanists don't believe in a heaven or hell nor a divine designer and his angelic antagonist. The tenants seem to be worded around that, "all creatures" sounds like all creatures. Much of this argument seems to be on the "even tho this is what they say, we know they actually are saying this" not sure that is a wholesome argument.
@nobody.of.importance19 күн бұрын
Misrepresenting other people's religion seems to be the apologist's bread and butter. Lying for Jesus etc.
@roshnijoe62873 жыл бұрын
This was an eye opener...Thankyou for spreading the message out there.Prayers from India.
@HisWordisLife4U7 ай бұрын
The problem is "moral responsibility" is not subjective. People don't get to decide what morality is. God must decide; if not, it is not, by it's nature, moral.
@andreafirth5772 жыл бұрын
It’s because the enemy uses ‘compassion’ to soften the lie , to justify the need for the lie , truth is truth but when compassion is used to create a ‘twist’ in the way of truth it can redirect the point of consciousness away from’God’ which is the Way , the truth and the life …..and so to be twisted by ‘compassion’ and empathy in this way creates a way towards a lie and death ….towards an antichrist mindset …to a false ‘Christ’ doctrine ….appearing as truth but yet always dwelling within a place of lies .🗡🇬🇧🌸❤️🩹
@Z4r4sz2 жыл бұрын
*_"It’s because the enemy uses ‘compassion’ to soften the lie"_* Have you ever heard of christianity? Have you ever read the bible? They lure you in with love, compassion, kindness and once you are in they exploit your gullibility, want your money, tell you who to hate and to worship a genocidal tyrant who blackmails you with "love me or I will hurt you" like an abusive spouse. *_"appearing as truth but yet always dwelling within a place of lies"_* Sounds like every christian Ive met.
@andreafirth5772 жыл бұрын
@@Z4r4sz yes I have and yes I have , have you ever encountered the demonic ? Maybe then , you wouldn’t be judging ‘Christianity’ in the form you speak of but actually know the Real Christ , I understand what your saying , I have experienced that part of it in bucket loads , but don’t put all your eggs into one basket , that’s all I will say on that . Thanks for commenting .
@michaeloconnell35323 жыл бұрын
Why do they call it the Satanic Temple if they don't believe Satan exists?
@alinktotheblast402 жыл бұрын
Because it's a quick way to get their message across and it worked
@barefootarts7372 жыл бұрын
Because using Christian theology is kind of embarrassing if you’re not a Christian.
@KarenStewartCamden9 ай бұрын
Satan is the ultimate rebel. He's blamed for lies and death by Chrisitians. God of the Bible, however , killed multi-millions. Satan only killed Job's family and that was with God's permission. Who's the epitome of evil?
@ThinkingWest3 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason these 7 tenets are worse in reality than they appear (because do contain some truth in each of them) is that they imply doing these 7 things without God in the picture. They attempt to build a moral framework without the Creator of all moral action, and as such, this framework will collapse like a house of cards in the real world.
@he-mememan3593 жыл бұрын
If your only objection is that it doesn't say that I need your imaginary friend, that's not a moral argument at all.
@christianb11763 жыл бұрын
@@he-mememan359 No, it's not a moral argument. It's that the basis of the moral framework is removed.
@he-mememan3593 жыл бұрын
@@christianb1176 Your basis for moral framework, not everyone needs a sense of always being watched by big brother to have morality.
@kitthorton98603 жыл бұрын
@@he-mememan359 I don't think you understand what is meant by moral framework. If God does not exist, then there is no moral ontology. People can be good without belief in God, but there is no good if God does not exist.
@he-mememan3593 жыл бұрын
@@kitthorton9860 Your belief that good is what your imaginary friend likes and evil is whatever it dislikes doesn't make it true. Your failure to be able to comprehend something being good or bad without a big brother deciding what is good and bad. I see it exactly the opposite, if good and evil are nothing more than what your deity likes and dislikes then it is meaningless. Sometimes he wants to save the unborn, sometimes in the bible, he said to rip the unborn out of the bellies of the women who didn't worship him, which makes me wonder why Christians are so against an ungodly woman having an abortion if that god specifically ordered that ungodly woman have their unborn ripped from their bellies. Sounds like the work of your lord to me, at least that was the way he used to do it. This brings us to the second point, your moral system is actually moral relativism. It used to be okay to own slaves, it used to be okay to marry your aunt on your mother's side, it used to be okay to cut a woman's hand off if she grabbed a man by his testicles to defend her husband, it used to be okay to marry a woman off to her rapist or prohibit her from marrying at all, or stone her to death if it happened within city limits. It used to be okay to perform animal sacrifices, it used to be okay to have multiple wives, it used to be okay to stone your son to death for telling you to f*ck off, according to the bible.
@lukasandisaaktime91473 жыл бұрын
The 7 tenants are possibly a trick or lie - just like all demons do.
@rfwells12 жыл бұрын
All the tenants that are bad have been evicted
@daniellindemann39602 жыл бұрын
And how do you know it’s a trick without referring to the Bible?
@cephalonunsuda94612 жыл бұрын
Thank you and I love your name.
@dr.lawsonaxeford21052 жыл бұрын
The seven tenants are just like the nine noble virtues (norse neo-paganism) in that they sound brilliant, but when seen in context are evil.
@crossbearer64532 жыл бұрын
Never knew. Thanks
@marklizama55602 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and well-said; of course it comes as no surprise as all Paganism is basically Satanism as well, Zeus and Odin are both demons.
@Persun_McPersonson4 ай бұрын
Except TST has not demonstrated that their context makes them evil. They're one of the most morally-sound religious organizations I've ever seen.
@sarcodonblue28769 ай бұрын
At least they are against r*pe but it never appears in the 10 commandments and the bible condones it . Yahweh would prefer we had no other Gods before him rather than not r*pping .
@smokyquartz58172 ай бұрын
You're entirely right, you're just talking to an audience that doesn't care if r*pe happens. Thats the end of it.
@themobbit90613 жыл бұрын
I study psychopathy (in research it’s called a personality disorder not in the clinical diagnosis). The difference between our fallen tendency towards narcissism and psychopathic narcissism is the inability/unwillingness to EVER feel one’s conscience or look at one’s faults
@civitatedei92243 жыл бұрын
Excellent point! Does it seem to hold true that many can behave in psychopathic ways by ignoring their own faults and conscience, even if they have not been cut off from them? I mean by imitation? It seems our culture promotes the psychopathic and many act like psychopaths and are unaware of the growing guilt in their souls. I would like to learn more about your study in personality disorder- its seems to me that the DSM personality disorder characterizations are not nearly as elucidating as the kind of study you are undertaking, but that is of course as it strikes me on the surface.
@themobbit90613 жыл бұрын
@@civitatedei9224 I entirely agree that narcissism can be a learned perception as it seems to be in our culture - an entitlement added to ones self-centered ness, a tuning down of conscience if you will, perhaps being brought up that it is perfectly fine to put yourself first and be insulted by anyone who affronts you. But Psychopathic Personality Disorder is always preceded by childhood trauma and/or neglect (usually pretty severe) so that it interferes with attachment which is the basis of empathy and conscience.That element makes the defense much more impenetrable and conscience almost inaccessible. I have found this to be true of Narcissistic PD and at times other Cluster B’s. Have you read Timothy 2 3:5?
@themobbit90613 жыл бұрын
@@civitatedei9224 That’s actually 2 Timothy 3
@civitatedei92243 жыл бұрын
@@themobbit9061 Very interesting!!! And although psychopathy comes from severe trauma, with psychopathic role models, and instruction, do you think people who are not otherwise PDed can mimic psychopathic behavior? mob mentality? cancel culture? violence in protests etc....? the ideas of putting oneself first, ignoring conscience, destroying other's lives, taking offense at slight things, while at the same time holding egregious moral errors- (think of the anti-racism and anti-hate movements) the maxims, rules and even unseen principles asserted by these movements are disordered at the least and perhaps derivative of or at least emblematic of the movement towards psychopathy, do you think? And yes, I have read 2 Timothy 3 many times and find it remarkable and appropriate for these times.
@themobbit90613 жыл бұрын
@@civitatedei9224 Yes of course. Psychopaths whether with just an individual, group, cult, or country must be in a dominant role or they won’t participate. There are many examples of psychopaths having a dominating influence over a partner or group and the partner or group (for whatever reason based upon their own traumatic wounding) will hurt others and even kill for the psychopath, where on their own they never would. Think David Koresh, Hitler, killer couples, gangs - often a shared ideology will mask the psychopaths true goal of power and control (played out in sadistic and/or sexual pleasure, murder, dominance, etc). What you’re saying I think is an ideology itself can become psychopathic if it seeks those same goals. I agree! May we say then that the psychopath in control is Satan? It seems evil in all its expressions has the same pattern: figure out the vulnerabilities of those you want to lure/control then become the answer to all their dreams and needs (Eg. utopian or romantic fantasy, you don’t feel victimized, you are loved or special), and subtlety gradually conform their will to yours until you possess them.
@lourdezgalindez77712 жыл бұрын
This is a great topic the devil has a grip on so many people with all these earthly things praying for this world is a most doing the rosary 📿 everyday is our way of helping them come back to Jesus Christ 🙏
@joekey8464 Жыл бұрын
Our time has been prophesied by our Lady of Good Success: ”I make it known to you that from the end of the 19th century and shortly after the middle of the 20th century…..the passions will erupt and there will be a total corruption of customs (morals)"... “As for the Sacrament of Matrimony…it will be attacked and deeply profaned" “Further, in these unhappy times, there will be unbridled luxury, which will ensnare the rest into sin and conquer innumerable frivolous souls, who will be lost. Innocence will almost no longer be found in children, nor modesty in women.".
@anneoutarsingh39663 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this excellent session. It clarified things that I always ponder. Thank you both.
@DeathsAngel3232 жыл бұрын
How about read the actual satanic bible by Anton Lavey to educate yourself besides having people tell you what it means from their distorted perspective
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@KarenStewartCamden9 ай бұрын
I love the way he says it is "unreasonable" to use the subjective term "within reason." So funny!
@dapperspaghettimonster Жыл бұрын
In accordance with reason- if a bear is doing nothing to you do not harm it. If it's mauling you, defend yourself, don't turn the other cheek trust t me the bear doesn't care
@Demonoicgamer6662 ай бұрын
What are you talking about it’s reasonable to assume a bear will attack you if you don’t do anything.
@jantz012 жыл бұрын
My first thought hearing these 7 tenents is how Satan deceives us as an angel of light.
@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou2 жыл бұрын
So...these tenets are pretty good. Satanists use these tenets. And you see them as awful, I presume? Because, if so, then your god is deplorable for making you think this way.
@jonson8563 жыл бұрын
Church of Satan, does not believe in Satan. A movement built on a fundamental contradiction. Alright...
@salamaabid69233 жыл бұрын
They don’t believe in a literal Satan though, the Satanic temple use him as a metaphor or “brand logo”, and the depiction of him in Paradise Lost as a rebel leader is the message they use. Probably know that by now but figured I’d leave a comment for others
@smokyquartz58172 ай бұрын
Two grown men: "But look how ugly the pictures are." "Yeah." Compelling stuff.
@sheetalsilveira95543 жыл бұрын
Wow...This video is truly helpful. So many will find these tenets attractive but we know that the devil is the father of lies and always disguises himself as the angel of light. Love what Fulton Sheen said about the devil.. “Very few people believe in the devil these days, which suits the devil very well. He is always helping to circulate the news of his own death. The essence of God is existence, and He defines Himself as: 'I am Who am.' The essence of the devil is the lie, and he defines himself as: 'I am who am not.' Satan has very little trouble with those who do not believe in him; they are already on his side.” Without Christ we are powerless against this ancient enemy. We just don’t realise how miserable we are and how easily we fall..we need a Saviour. It’s sad we don’t even hear homilies on this topic nowadays - so many Catholics just don’t believe in the reality of the devil. This serves his purpose pretty well.😬
@he-mememan3593 жыл бұрын
If your only argument is that I need your imaginary friend, it's no argument at all.
@calvinwright22143 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@tryhardf8442 жыл бұрын
@He-Mememan. No argument was made for God existence or presence. Rather how flawed people who are angry at the concept can't grasp basic theology.
@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou2 жыл бұрын
Translation: These tenets are good and all, but muh bible
@barefootarts7372 жыл бұрын
This is untrue in a sense because more people consciously adhere to Satanism now than ever before. Thanks to X-tian theology, the Satanic temple is thriving. Without this theology we would have other personalities/gods, but certainly not Satan. The two sort of hold hands and spin around making a complete system.
@thelittleway3 жыл бұрын
almost 100k souls reached! wohoo!
@crystald33463 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, you have to define “within reason” which immediately makes it subjective. Steven Rummelsburg is an astute man!
@Metal_Is_The_Way2 жыл бұрын
But the issue is he’s assuming that only Satanists are the ones who subject “within reason” to their subjective viewpoint. Everyone, even Christians, assign their subjective view to justified actions by saying for example“Well this is just what any good God-fearing Christian would do.” while they’re doing something at half the world might see as immoral or wrong. So he makes a good point but he’s only applying it to fit his argument, not unilaterally. Also the “within reason” is closer to a term of acceptance. You can be vegan and a Satanist so you don’t ever give your money to materials or food that came from an animal or you can be an omnivore, eating cheeseburgers but you can still hope the beef came from a harm free farm.
@padraicbrown6718 Жыл бұрын
@@Metal_Is_The_Way Not exactly true. Christians might fail to do this, but the rightly ordered way to understand this is not according to each of our own subjective human viewpoints that we see as reason and will, but rather to behave according to objective standards. What "any God-fearing Christian" would do, hopefully, is to act in accord with God's will. When we act according to God's will, we will NEVER do anything immoral or wrong. The difference here appears to be this: the satanist, when she follows tenet 1 as a matter of religion, and behaving according to her own will does as St Thomas Aquinas says of Islam and Mohammed: "(Mohammed) seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teachings also contain precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men.” In other words, if you follow a religion that promotes indulgence in your own passions, in your desires, in your own will, that is exactly what you will do. Whereas when a rightly ordered Christian follows tenet 1 as a matter of religion, behaving according to the will of God, she struggles mightily but with grace will rise above the merely human will, she controls her worldly passions and overcomes her own materialistic desires. You do make a valid point though: it's not "only" satanists who do this. Materialists, Atheists, political Leftists all promote the same moral relativism based on human reason and acting according to human will.
@simonslater90243 жыл бұрын
Those who obey satan and reject Jesus’s beautiful and Immaculate mum ate themselves blasphemous against God. So the foolish individual who falsely accused me of blasphemy is guilty of it themselves. God bless. Praise Jesus and Mary always!!!
@defactproductions22533 жыл бұрын
God is great
@mammyoriordan3 жыл бұрын
"Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, ..." 1 Timothy 4:1
@pokedum67042 жыл бұрын
Lol ignorant. I doubt you even watched the video 😂
@Xeladur20773 жыл бұрын
Min 34, just apply the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirt, specifically Fear of the Lord. Fear of the just God and transgressions against him.
@vlad_III_dracula3 жыл бұрын
"An' thou harm none, do as thou will." is good advice, yet to sin is to cause thyself harm by guilt, even to merely err is cause thyself harm by shame. While good advice, it would be wiser to say "See to it that thou dost act with love that thou canst harm none in all that thou dost will to do."
@simonslater90243 жыл бұрын
hi S.F.C USA,I totally agree. God bless. Praise Jesus and Mary always!!!
@clarkusna3 жыл бұрын
Dude straight up called COVID 19 a "plandemic". Regardless of your thoughts towards the policies or danger of the disease, it very clearly fits the definition of pandemic. To refer to it as a plandemic is to be overly dismissive and a conspiracy theorist.
@civitatedei92243 жыл бұрын
Clarkisna, maybe you could explain how the “definition” of a pandemic compared to reality would suggest that one who disagrees with our national response deserves the ad-hominem attack of being called a “conspiracy theorist”?!! Do you know enough about science to clearly explain the efficacy of masks? Are you certain about the percentage of asymptotic transmission? Do you believe the economic shutdown is a response commensurate with the danger from this disease? Do you consider all the mental issues, suicides, substance abuse, economic strangulation, ruining of livelihoods, eventual inflation and impending starvation issues so easily ignored by your definition of pandemic? Or are you just voicing the ideological position that we are not allowed to question the wisdom of our federal government. Or is it your subjective omniscience that takes offense? If you know all these things why don’t you give me appropriate fraternal correction instead of name calling?
@clarkusna3 жыл бұрын
@@civitatedei9224 Pandemic: prevalent over a whole country or world. COVID-19 is across the USA, and in fact across the world, hence pandemic is appropriate. Notice how the definition doesn't rely on policy or danger of the disease? That's why using a play on words that implies it was planned is dismissive and insinuates a sort of conspiracy. And since you seem to know a few logical fallacies, I'd like to point out that you make red herring, appeal to authority, and ad hominem fallacies in your own reply. So, given that this is a comment box and rather easily prone to digressions, I will keep us on track and not respond to your baiting.
@MicahMicahel3 жыл бұрын
leaders have made statements where they say they can't waste the crisis. So though it may not have been planned the 'world order' has certainly found out how to gain control through the crisis. Allowing international corporations isn't worth avoiding a flu that kills the very old, (people over the life expectancy are the average age of the deaths from covid!). so these corporations and political factions have figured out how to exploit us. Meanwhile the largest transfer of money to the rich in human history.
@impurfekt3 жыл бұрын
The powers in this world have done a good job in remaking the West according to these tenets.
@ColoradoLocalMF3 жыл бұрын
The enemy lies calling rationalization "reason". Do not accept a false compassion in the name of a "mercy", which enslaves. The antidote is God's right order. John 10:10, "He came so that we might have life and have it to the full." The Lord wants us to share in Him. The enemy wants to use us and us to use each other.
@miwimarmer2323 жыл бұрын
Too many people fall for the soothing lies of satan and insult God for his harsh truth
@AngelicaDoucet3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, both of you, for giving advice on how to transition to lives of holiness in a culture that seems so "nice."
@edwardanderson28473 жыл бұрын
'Hail Satan?' is an excellent documentary on this group. It's the prince of all ironies that the Satanic Temple strongly criticises organised religion and hierarchy, yet they experienced a schism of their own when one chapter went against the central organisation on a question of doctrine. The leader of the Satanic Temple had to rule on the dispute and ended up excommunicating the heretical chapter! The Satanic Temple and its purported tenets-secular humanism dressed up in edgy satanic trappings-appear to me as a wrongheaded and farcical imitation of our Holy Mother Church. From what I've seen, its members deeply long for the spiritual life and for religious order, hence their codification of beliefs into a canon, and their instantiation of rituals which attempt to 'invert' and 'corrupt' Christian rituals like the mass. But their modern pride prevents them from committing to God (or anything higher than Self), so they commit themselves to a very poor inverse imitation of Christianity, an imitation which asks nothing of them, which promises no salvation, which endorses hedonism, et cetera. The tenets of the Satanic Temple are always spoken with a certain irony, because its members are caught between two contradictory ideas: 'Yes,' they say, 'we believe in Satan, the ultimate rebel against authority, and we conduct obscene rituals in his name. And yes, we also believe it is ultimately all symbolic, and really we are just a secular charity/activist group.' I believe we should pray that these people will be led by the Holy Spirit away from sin, and will find redemption in Christ. Many of them evidently are blessed with gifts of the Spirit like intellect and a strong sense of justice and fairness, but they've given their gifts over to self-worship. I pray that God will turn their gifts back towards good and godly ends, and away from the service of the Deceiver. ☧
@joshw30103 жыл бұрын
I've known a few of them over the years, and I think your observation is spot on.
@DA-of5yj3 жыл бұрын
Lucian Greaves and TST are doing wonderful work for church/state separation. We are NOT a christian nation! 😊
@UskInaTE3 жыл бұрын
You honestly have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re obviously seeing this out of a biased lense that taints everything in your own religious bias. We aren’t against organized religion, we are against one form of religion being sanctioned by the state and put above all other religions in a way that their religious rules are implements on the rest of us. Unlike you, we have nothing against you or your religion as long as you don’t try to push your religion on the rest of us and we aren’t going to pray that you change just because we don’t agree with you. We’re for religious pluralism. Also, of course there’s going to be infighting within Satanism! We’re a group of highly individualistic people who value self governance and unlike your religion, we have no strict religious structures or rules and that allows it’s followers to make up their own rituals and practices. That doesn’t mesh well when trying to build large unified organizations with a consistent message when the membership numbers have exploded in size and the people in leadership are struggling with limited resources and lack of experience. We aren’t the Catholic Church sitting on a massive amount of wealth. And no we don’t believe in nor do we worship Satan. We don’t believe in any higher power or deity nor is it in any way connects to anything Christian besides the mere symbolism. Satanism is post Christian, more so than Mormonism. It is only loosely inspired by the fanfic of the mythology. I’m speaking as a Satanist who has been a life long atheist and comes from parents who have been life long atheists. This has nothing to do with Christianity or Catholicism. We don’t care about your dogma or what you consider sins, so please don’t try to speak for us like you understand what we’re coming from because you clearly don’t.
@PRHILL96963 жыл бұрын
I like that The Satanic temple does not embrace the supernatural like LaVeyan satanism does
@Brillemeister3 жыл бұрын
@@UskInaTE I am a former member of TST and current practicing Catholic. My advice to you is to run, not walk away from them. The idea that Satanism doesn't involve the supernatural is the ultimate joke. You surrounding yourself with occult signs, symbols and ritual is an invitation for forces beyond your understanding to enter your life and do incremental and lasting damage.
@jojorumbles87493 жыл бұрын
This video is incredible. I've never seen anyone try this hard to twist what the Satanists actually said into what you wanted it to say. I've also never seen anyone argue against compassion while simultaneously arguing for compassion in the same breath. Well done battling the Satanic strawman that you've created.
@marklizama55603 жыл бұрын
And Satanist aren't engaging in a strawman against God and Christianity by making Them out to be tyrannical, irrational, bigoted etc.?
@jojorumbles87493 жыл бұрын
@@marklizama5560 the fallacy you just engaged in is called the Tu Quoque Fallacy. You're attempting to deflect from the issue at hand which was not effective.
@marklizama55603 жыл бұрын
@@jojorumbles8749 So you admit that the Satanist do engage in the very thing that you are accusing the Catholics in this video of doing; if you want me to address your accusation I will, I'm just pointing that you are basically admitting to my accusation.
@jojorumbles87493 жыл бұрын
@@marklizama5560 once again your attempt to divert away from the topic at hand has failed. Do you want to have an honest discussion or not?
@marklizama55603 жыл бұрын
@@jojorumbles8749 I do, I'm just clarifying that, for the time being at least, you concede on this point; also, the fact that they call their belief system "the Satanic Temple," and then re-define Satan to be a figure that opposes all forms of tyranny, and advocates "freedom," emphasizes my point. Satan was high-ranking angel (most probably a Seraph) who believed himself to be better than God and did not want to have the Blessed Virgin Mary to be his Queen and thus, he rebelled against God and rejected His kingdom and now spends eternity away from Him. (Along with his co-religionists) God is the Supreme Being, (YHWH quite literally means "He Who Is Being") that basically means He is Perfection Himself, He is Perfect Power, Perfect Truth, and, most apropos to our discussion Perfect Moral Goodness, He is Moral Goodness Himself; that's key problem with the Seven Tenets, how do they justify themselves? They're clearly not justifying themselves from God, Whom they most probably do not define the way Catholic Theology defines Him, how do they justify themselves?
@Desert-Father3 жыл бұрын
One mistaken or ill defined word is enough to make a heresy. And the best lies start with a hint of truth. Remember, Satan is a deceiver. "Be sober and vigilant. Your opponent the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." 1 Peter 5:8
@mollyragdollfan1917 Жыл бұрын
My estranged son follows tst and has fallen for these 7 tenets hook, line and sinker. I find them deeply disconcerting, as it leaves out love and empathy, "within reason" negates the whole sentence. it's exclusively self-serving.
@claritasyoutubechannel3312 Жыл бұрын
Will keep your son my prayers.
@tefky7964 Жыл бұрын
Empathy... like in the 1st tenet?
@mollyragdollfan1917 Жыл бұрын
"Within Reason " and there the problem, Tefky.
@Persun_McPersonson4 ай бұрын
Empathy is a form of compassion. "Within reason" qualifies the statement, not negates it: if someone is acting in a way that doesn't warrant compassion, like actively trying to abuse others, then you shouldn't need to be compassionate towards them.
@sandmot3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel! Thank you so much for your work! God and Virgin Mary bless you!
@Eye_of_a_Texan3 жыл бұрын
The only reason why I never tried to perform any spells is because I didn't value myself enough to desire anything. I was at least rational enough to realize that I hated others that meant I hated myself. So I did, which ironically robed me of any desire to see change in the world. I still don't know what I'm supposed to do with myself besides pray more. Oh well.
@shannonrouston32983 жыл бұрын
Gosh, this is heartbreaking. It makes me think of the beginning of Matthew 8. Jesus says, “What do you want me to do for you?”
@Eye_of_a_Texan3 жыл бұрын
@@shannonrouston3298 I still don't know anything which I want Jesus to do for me. I just pray for things like strength to resist despair, a willing spirit, kindness. I attempted to bless my home with Holy Water and chalk for the first time this year. I need to watch less YT and read more. God bless you ma'am, and I'm sorry if I rained on your parade.
@notamused37153 жыл бұрын
Ah God love you! And He does! Please , if you can have Confession go as soon as you can and go regularly, then you can receive regular Communion in a state of Grace. God bless and keep you and also try and say a Daily Rosary! It one of the best medicines for hurting souls! God bless!
@Eye_of_a_Texan3 жыл бұрын
@@notamused3715 I will go to confession as soon as I'm allowed. I'm studying for confirmation for now. I meet with a priest 2-4 times per month.
@notamused37153 жыл бұрын
@@Eye_of_a_Texan That's brilliant! I'm in need of Confession too and I don't even know when we'll be allowed again here in Ireland. Sure all any of us can do is our best! God bless!
@x4mayne982 жыл бұрын
I’ll be starting my own temple because Arizona only has one and it’s far from the city. I have land and reassure people love and communication
@Nativeson99798 ай бұрын
Did anyone else SERIOUSLY get a sponsored add by the catholic church prior to watching this?!?! W😂W
@tabberluck473 жыл бұрын
The hideousness is the point of modern art. Of the modern era.
@autumxxleaves41863 жыл бұрын
Oh my days I thought I was the only one who noticed, no detail no creativity just mess....
@LaMgtx2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty crazy to me to watch these two men speak about this… I grew up Catholic and have officially joined The Satanic Temple. I am simply tired of Religion, Tired of what it preaches and how the “followers” of Christ behave. This video only cements my one believe - Religion is the root of evil. I grew up reading the Bible and everything Jesus teaches is what modern religious people dislike and hate… I’m happy to be moving on to a social movement that aims at correcting these issues.
@r.c49142 жыл бұрын
God loves you! and we all are sinners .
@marklizama55602 жыл бұрын
Regina sine labe originali concepta, ora pro nobis et hostibus nostris!
@sonder1522 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should watch it again, it's a great refutation of the Satanic Temple.
@marklizama55602 жыл бұрын
@@sonder152 Or Jonathan Pageau’s commentary on Montero and WandaVision, he does an even greater job there.
@georgekeenan722 жыл бұрын
@Pints With Aquinas Did your guest refer to the pandemic as the "plandemic"?
@rab-cnesbit41812 жыл бұрын
And no marvel for satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
@dasan91783 жыл бұрын
One overarching problem with the Satanic Tenets is that they rely on reason alone while denying God. Reason does have an important role in decision-making, but it’s one that should always be subordinated to God, especially related to God’s Law, Virtues of the Holy Spirit (wisdom, understanding, council, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord), and Faith in Jesus. The application of reason may help us better understand God’s Will, but it’s important to remember that Christian thinking is informed (NOT determined) by reason. Once you realize the fundamental flaw in the Tenets is the denial of God, it’s not hard to begin seeing their application in numerous areas of modern life (advertising, marketing, success strategies, education, law, medicine, movies, TV, online media, etc.). They can look deceptively appealing, such as, “The Power of Positive Thinking.” The purpose of denying God is to suggest that people don’t need him…that we can help ourselves just fine without him. Want to be successful? Think positively! No mention of relying on God, or asking for Divine assistance. Will this help you achieve success? I guess it depends whether the standard by which you measure or define success is purely materialistic or based on God. For those who are strong in their faith, trust in God is more important than positive thinking. You might say it doesn’t hurt for Christians to think positively, and you would be right. It’s not that thinking positively is wrong, but that the power positive thinking has to change your life for the better pales next to God’s power, which is not accessed through positive thinking but through faith (faith=belief + trust + love) and prayer. Next time you see some encouraging or wise sounding statement or motto, look for God in it. The number one giveaway that you’re looking at a cleverly disguised Satanic Tenet is the preeminence or elevation of humanity over God, if not the outright denial of God’s existence, power and love. No matter how good the motto sounds, such thinking is dangerous. How? “For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?” Mark 8:36.
@friendlyfire75092 жыл бұрын
Test EVERY SPIRIT 1 John
@dasan91782 жыл бұрын
@@friendlyfire7509 Great point! Thanks.
@jeoltem2 жыл бұрын
There is no god! Keep calm and repeat after me: Is up to me to become a better person.
@dasan91782 жыл бұрын
@@jeoltem I repeat: the purpose of denying God is to suggest that we get along just fine without Him. He’s not needed. We humans have or can invent any/all needed solutions. The thing is, however, one only needs to glance at the mess the world is to know this isn’t true.
@jeoltem2 жыл бұрын
@@dasan9178 we used to be messier, and religion was a part of that.
@julietspaghetti3 жыл бұрын
My cousins are satanists. I cant talk to them. They're my cousins I love them. I cant abide in the evil crap.
@alinktotheblast402 жыл бұрын
Don't ignore your family cos of myths and it's not like you have to share their beliefs. Cherish the time you can spend with your cousins, you don't want to regret not spending time with them when you are older
@taylorsachse54692 жыл бұрын
That’s sad, and not very god like. It sounds to me like you need to ask for forgiveness from god for playing a nasty role in which you condemn your own blood to “evil crap” instead of simply asking god for protection and then asking him to guide you in leading by his example of love and acceptance in hopes of them seeing god through you. You seem like your rejecting him, and you may be going to hell for this one sis 🤧🤦🏽♀️
@daniellindemann39602 жыл бұрын
Explain to me how it’s evil without using the Bible or Christianity
@williamadebonojo30612 жыл бұрын
If they are good sound positive tenets with then they should be followed. And yes, among intelligent people, reason more often than not overcomes passion.
@marklizama55602 жыл бұрын
And can you make the case that these tenets are good, positive and sound?
@momooks2 жыл бұрын
I mean 10 commandments, aren't like 3 of them about not cheating with another God?