The A.I. Art Webtoon is about as bad as you can guess.

[@kattherat1309]

I hate how this comic is meant to be set in the 19th century, but the characters use modern slang. I doubt anyone said "hold on a sec" in that time lmao

[@sheesh6936]

They would probably say shit like “Pardon me a minute” in 19th century

[@niggacockball7995]

​@@sheesh6936 "please forgive me for a moment of inconvinience, my apologises"

[@girl-cv4il]

Or maybe "excuse me"

[@notcoolperson95]

IT IS???? I COULDN’T EVEN TELL?????

[@KnightTheValet]

@@sheesh6936”I beg your very pardon, I shall need a moment, if you may.”

[@Rodri34451]

When I'm in a inconsistent art-style competition and my opponent is an AI-"artist":

[@mage_no_title]

Noo dont do that, it'll make the artist tag a priority /j

[@manboy4720]

can i get a participation ribbon?

[@adrielleakuryo]

How ironic that this Webtoon revolves around art and yet the "art" here in this Webtoon is made entirely by AI!

[@MyChemicalKilljoy]

THANK YOU, I’m SO glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that omfg 😭

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

@@MyChemicalKilljoy A shit ton of people think like so, bro. This take is cold and popular, it's became it's own new brand of ice cream.

[@kyrohowe3156]

It's pretty clear why small independent artists are angry, claiming they're gonna be replaced.

[@MyChemicalKilljoy]

⁠@@viktoria_pikovskytruee 😭

[@Higanbanaflowers]

This whole webtoon is like “nooo dont steal and reproduce art people are making a living off of art!” While basically doing the same thing

[@AlytheWolfcat]

The photographs in that era was blurry and usually grayscale, the first photo with was in 1861, even then, it wasn't the quality we have today. The author I think looked at the wiki for the first camera and did little research for how painters feel at that time.

[@positivea9111]

Yeah I was about to ask, weren’t photos back of day completely black and white, and theirs wasn’t a photo that match all the color it had in the 19 century.

[@barrybend7189]

Even then it took days for photos to develop.

[@SunnysFilms]

The first photo was taken back in 1839. Some of those were pretty clear, but it depended a LOT on the conditions, esp. lighting. They looked nothing like that camera, though, and took a hell of a lot longer than mere seconds. lmfao It's weird because the AI got some of the info right, but still managed to screw up everything about it.

[@cam4636]

@@SunnysFilms *1826, but the first daguerrotype was in 1839

[@barbararab6390]

​@@positivea9111they also took a long ass time to develop

[@deerlyqueery]

Painting and photography are both completely different forms of art and both are valid and amazing, their argument is stupid.

[@millie567]

Especially in an A.I. Art webtoon, which just makes them look hypocritical.

[@niggacockball7995]

yeah photopraghy still requies years of experience, using the lighting to advantage, manuplating environment, using different lenses and positioning AI art is just promt engineering that you can git gud within days

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

So is AI art too. Yet people like you are fighting a losing war against it, only because you still can't accept that It is the next evolution of digital art, the same way as digital painting was the evolution of traditional painting before it, and photography was the evolution of life drawings before it.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

@@millie567 There is exactly 0 hypocrisy in here. The moment you accept that AI art is a legit art medium as traditional & digital art and photography, you would see how you own arguments against it are stupid.

[@millie567]

@@viktoria_pikovsky Did you even watch the video itself...? The look of some characters and their clothing is not even consistent between panels. Even with things like "goatte/snub-> no facial hair-> beard". The author of this webcomic just chucked some of their own "drawings" into A.I. Art and didn't even really check if the "end product" is even consistent. Besides, aren't traditional & digital art, as well as photography different...? Yet, all of them are made by humans, in their own way. A.l. art, from what is known is an Artificial intelligence taking key words/random doodle, searching in a database of already existing art and combining things together to make a "new drawing". Or did I understood it wrong...?

[@ileniagennari499]

I hate the subtext of this webtoon. Looks like telling people "get over yourself, AI is future, like photography was the future of painting" I really, really REALLY hate this narrative.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

Well, AI IS the future tho, whether you like it or not. It's here to stay with us, and you cannot just magically erase it out of existence. So it would be better for you to really just accept that more and more people WILL use AI for their work, and they WILL create more comics like this in the future, no matter how much you hate it. You can hate the narrative of this comic all you want, it won't change the fact that it IS talking about the course of art world from on now.

[@cam4636]

@@viktoria_pikovsky More likely AI art is a fad that will disappear in less than 5 years, and your understanding of why AI art is hated is ignorant. We don't want to "magically erase it out of existence," we want artists to be appreciated for their hard work--which AI generators, literal computer programs made to steal others' art, do not qualify for. No, it would not "be better for you to really just accept" that people steal art and refuse to put in effort; that's like saying you should accept eating garbage because garbage is the future of cuisine. Get over yourself.

[@kirabad-artist6532]

@@viktoria_pikovskyJust like NFTs are totally the future of art, right?

[@genericname2747]

@@viktoria_pikovsky No it ain't. Be smart about this, you think rich snobs will let ai art be put in a museum? You think they'll say "Hm, yes, this art generated by a robot truly is comparable to this art piece by a famous man who died hundreds of years ago"

[@barbararab6390]

​@@viktoria_pikovskythey also said that about NFTs, yet here we are

[@Zetact_]

The better metaphor for the AI push would be the TV dinners of the mid 1900s. Cheap, convenient, pushed as "the way of the future" in marketing but they're ultimately just slop for lazy people.

[@schemesthefox1255]

That is the most fitting metaphor that I’ve ever heard of.

[@lunar_proxy]

yea but even those took more effort than writing some words 💀

[@quvuergatulyai980]

Exactly

[@rubylee9566]

At least the tv dinners were appealing to look at 😭

[@schemesthefox1255]

@@rubylee9566 And gave you smth to eat :/

[@awkwird8035]

It's funny how they think developing photos was basically point and click in the 1800s. Just because AI takes no effort doesnt mean actual art mediums don't.

[@kaitlynmorgan4613]

fr. like... the webtoon is taking place when cameras were first invented, it said it takes pictures in a matter of seconds. and yet real cameras, and especially the kind theyre referring to, took 20 minutes to take a picture in its early days. and the earliest camera took 8hrs to days to make a good photo 💀💀

[@EEErmine]

They did NOT do their research

[@Noblesse_Sapphire]

Also, even with photography, there's still a limit that a camera cannot reach (if we're talking about an observable visible nature around us, without editing or props). Fantasy like a dragon flying in the sky, a depiction of the multiverse or even Hell and Heaven, and artists can fills those gaps with AI, technically you can do all of those with just prompts, even tho the visual probably uncanny/unfinished, but I doubt that AI bros can catch those and just satisfied with whatever pooped out by the AI :""D Also, sometimes some artists and photographers would work together and collab on a project, while AI bros (and companies) actively trying to replace artists >

[@brandi598]

@@kaitlynmorgan4613 literally and not only that but they had to invent ways to edit and combine photographs because cameras weren't able to get proper exposure during nighttime or darker scenes.

[@liandoaethend2403]

Shout out for the windows photographer because i thought that place isnt real even tho its actually look like that💀 (it is very pretty)

[@insertaname2485]

As an artist who also has taken photos before, photography isn't as simple as using a camera and mindlessly taking a picture. There is some artistic liberties that are used to make a good photograph, not to mention you have to edit the photo as well before you can call it finished. Editing can include adding a pop of color to certain places of the photo to make the viewer look at that pop of color, fixing or removing things that can distract the viewer from the thing you want them to sea first, and you also might have to add light where it matters. Comparing photography to ai art is like saying improv is the same as kids playing pretend when both improv and photography are legit art forms that actually takes talent.

[@RubykonCubes3668]

Omg thank you! It's especially grating when people even use Ai to générate realistic images and then tag it "photography". Not only disengenuine but it makes no dang sense

[@genericname2747]

@@RubykonCubes3668 Photo-realistic art isn't even called photography, what are these dudes on.

[@barbararab6390]

also, the composition, the position of the camera, how its distributed...

[@cassualtea2040]

​@@barbararab6390and then we get into ISO, Aperture, White Balance, Shutter Speed, types of lens, like even the technical aspects of photography, all of the fiddling with settings you have to do before you begin to take your shot. Photography is a lot of work.

[@Melifanatique]

The metaphor does work to some extent as photgraphy did push out a lot of artists back then bc the aim for painting was realistic. It forced art to change adding another layer to painting and giving the space dor artist to show their pov…and it forced photography to evolve to a few years later as we realized that each photo could give the photgraph’s pov too and hence turns a photograph into an artist too. Recognizable by their style despite having the same means / the same level of realism.Then art changed again to become more cartoonish and play with the rules to detach itself from reality. The metaphor however doesnt work in a sense that photgraphy didnt steal from the artists’s painting directly like the AI did. (i think that’s what they tried to explain in the comic part with the photograph taking picture of the art gallery even of it was clumsy) . Dont get me wrong this reply is by no mean a defense of AI. I hate AI. Im just repeating my art history lesson.

[@incineroar9933]

I like how everyone was claiming that artists would use AI art for references, only for non-artists to use it for garbage instead.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

Artists DO use AI for references tho. People going out and using AI to generate comics like this one doesn't take away from the fact that there are still artists who genuinely do use AI as a tool to cut on donkeywork. Don't lump the bad apples together with the people who do use AI responsibly in their works.

[@incineroar9933]

@@viktoria_pikovsky I am an artist. None of the other people I know bother with AI. Like, why bother with that when you can get articulated blocky figures you can pose in any pose you want for two whole dollars? Besides, look at this garbage. None of the poses it spat out are anywhere as good as readily available reference poses. Why bother fiddling around with AI to get something that looks wonky? All the stuff AI spits out is just referenced off of other work, it's an unnecessary step in the process.

[@Katrya-Kateryna]

​@@viktoria_pikovskyas an artist, I can say that it became difficult to find proper references because of AI "art". For example, you try to understand the construction of 15th century armor and start googling some photos of real armor but the search is flooded with AI abominations that resemble armor from afar but have no structure at all. It's useless as a reference.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

@@Katrya-Kateryna That's what museums are for, bro. And so are history books. And armor reconstruction historians. If all your research consist of googling random images of armor, you would NEVER find the right reference photos, with or without AI. And I'm not even talking about you find real historical photos of armor to begin with, and not props from movies or LARP campaigns, let alone photos of armor from the right *century*. Been there, done it myself when I tried to research 1910 hospitals and medical workers for a graphic design project I did. AI is NOT a problem in here, that's I can guarantee you.

[@Katrya-Kateryna]

@@viktoria_pikovsky lol, have you ever been to a history museum? You will not tell this nonsense about non existing historical armor if you have ever visited museums, cause there are real armor sets displayed in museums . Prior to AI stuff I could find a lot of photos from museums all over the world but it became harder to find good photos since AI generated stuff flooded the search. Searching for good references became unnecessarily harder an longer. And I used the armor stuff just an example. You experience the same problem when trying to search for good photos of some particular animal for example. You just have to go through a lot of AI generated abominations with extra legs to find some proper photos. Would you advise to go catch an animal in the wild? Also, go watch some videos about how artists actually work with references if you think that researching object's shape and construction is an impossible thing that only historians do 😑 You clearly have no idea what references are used for in drawing.

[@therealplaguedoctor]

Is... Is the maker of the webtoon trying to compare AI art and art made by people to photography and other forms of art? Cause if so, as an artist, I still know that photography IS a form of art and that it takes a Hell lot of work Imho art stops being art when the human behind the process of creating is removed

[@novaangle2183]

Dude photography is HARD and these ai wannabes trying to use it as a metaphor for ai art is dumb. Photographs are hard to do well and takes a lot of work to get the right shots etc. It's not a simple point and click. The best wildlife photos I've seen are breathtaking! Ai users try to pass off ai art their own artwork when all it is is generated art made for them from ai that took art from artists. Ai artwork is bland, lifeless, and generic because it isn't creative. It has to steal from others to even generate an image and will never produce anything unique or new which is why it all looks the same and is easy to spot.

[@cesar6447]

Nah, everyone can make photos

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

@@cesar6447 Then why isn’t everyone a photographer, hmm?

[@cesar6447]

@@SweetOrangeGirl bc people rather have actual jobs

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

@@cesar6447 Ok damn, I see what you are. You’re one of THOSE people.

[@Eusong]

I drew an anti-smoking PSA inspired by old Soviet propaganda posters and someone accused me of using AI....because they thought the *Russian text* was scrambled AI garbage.

[@Debbie-CRK]

I honestly want to see it

[@DeadVoxel]

Never have I seen anyone assume that my language was an AI artifact. This is just hilarious

[@darrellaldrige3909]

Ai will destroy all of humanity

[@peppermintgal4302]

@@darrellaldrige3909 Maybe, but not this kind of AI. It is crashing a lot of cars, though.

[@darrellaldrige3909]

@@peppermintgal4302 well, you have a point

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

Webtoon really doesn’t care about its standards, huh?

[@heartaura]

I don't think they had standards in the first place lmao. Wouldn't be surprised if they start licensing fully AI comics within the next few years.

[@sugarzblossom8168]

Well it is on canvas.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

@@heartaura Fully licensed AI comic ARE already a thing. And the artists who made them are fighting against the copyright legal system to get them commercially licensed & protected under copyright laws. So webtoon licensing AI art is only a matter of time for it to become a normal practice.

[@catcactus1234]

@@heartauraThere’s already an Originals webtoon called Quantum Entanglement that most people think was made using some AI assistance. Everything is rendered very professionally but there’s tons of weird discrepancies like the backgrounds changing and the MC’s necklace warping on every panel.

[@heartaura]

@@catcactus1234 I'm well aware... there's a comic "Trailer Trash" that uses AI backgrounds too. AI is definitely slowly making its way into the process. That's why I think it's only a matter of time at this point. At least most readers seem to dislike the technology at the moment, but I'm sure even that will change soon enough.

[@Luxndr]

A better metaphor for AI "art" would be the synthetic krabby patties. They look nice on the outside, but they aren't made by putting love, passion or effort, they are lazily made. And after a closer look, you can notice all of it's flaws.

[@SunsetDragon]

oohh, I think this is actually the best comment tbh! Like, I am an artist who uses AI as reference and inspiration, and on occasion I'll use the AI as my avatar or something, but I would never commission a person who makes AI-generated images, because, while I'm certain they work on it and tweak it and whatnot, it just.. isn't the same. While the AI, yes, compiled and mixed photos that it found applicable to the prompt, just like a human would, a human has subconscious opinions, personal preferences, and exaggerates their favorite parts. When you see a drawing from an artist, there are memories in there, but with AI art, while loads is very beautiful, none has any personal flair, and there's nothing stylistically that you can use to differentiate between AIs other than quality.

[@Ocha431]

even though ai images looks nice, I never really feel inspired by it like I do when I look at a real art piece made by a human. It just has this hollow feeling to it. it's like putting a bunch of icing on a cake that has no flavor

[@Gir_fan]

​@@SunsetDragon I use ai for similar purposes!!

[@gothbimbo9470]

THATS THE EXACT METAPHOR THAT I USE!!!

[@axelnetzahualcoyotl5223]

A really fitting metaphor for A.I. images.

[@tortyborty]

Idk why but the art gallery at around like 8:54 made my blood boil. That is NOT what art galleries in the 1800s looked like AT ALL. Art galleries back then were massive building with extremely detailed architecture and usually VERY high ceilings and walls so they could hang up gigantic canvases all around. Just look at the Paris Salon. ART GALLERIES DID NOT LOOK LIKE EMPTY, BORING ASS ROOMS WITH 3 PAINTINGS IN EACH ONE. Author definitely did not do any research making this garbage lmfao

[@GlassesnMouthplates]

I doubt someone who used A.I. to "draw" their comics would even care to do some research. Dude probably just entered "Art gallery" on the prompt and then called it a day.

[@Noblesse_Sapphire]

Even tho in the webtoon she said it was a local gallery, but was it common for a small village in the middle of nowhere to have their own art gallery in 1800s? I mean, even now, it's still rare O.o

[@tortyborty]

@@Noblesse_Sapphire It was mostly cities that had art galleries since art was more of a luxurious thing, so small towns or villages prob didn't have any (maybe tiny ones altho im not 100% sure) We also see in an establishing shot that she seems to live in a fairly large city so there's prob gonna be one there.

[@theden9123]

i thought it was a time skip for a second when it popped up

[@liandoaethend2403]

I dont look at art museum before (aha, poor.. man 😔) But theres a museum about disaster and holy sht, they are detailed arse hell miniature and sht (funny or not to say this, but, the disaster museum is so fun to look at) I only goes there because family want to go there before Also culture museum, theres alot of thing in there, it definitely doesnt look like this.. what the hell is this💀

[@TheLoneReni]

The issues with AI Art is more about how the artwork put into the allgorithm was stolen and put in without permission. Now people whose art was taken are getting accused of using ai generation when they are the source. Ai cannot make something from nothing. It needs a vast amount of already created art to read to make something.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

Your take is complete bullshit. Artists Steal from each others on daily basis too, and copy each other works while on it. Yet nobody bets an eye to that because everyone knows that that stealing is nothing more than people looking at someone else's work and getting inspired by it. Heck, what you call "AI taking human artist's work without permission" is basically the exact same thing as artists creating mood boards out of works they saw & saved from Pinterest. Works that they took without permission too, mind you. and human artists cannot create art out of the void too, they also need to look out existing works to make their own. People like you are just complain about AI doing the same cause 'it's just a machine, and machine have no artistic merit of it's own", and refuse to look at how humans had historically created art by themselves as it would break your narrative wide open.

[@asshat8892]

Not exactly how the technology works, but i agree!

[@EEErmine]

@@viktoria_pikovsky 🤖☝️

[@rexholland5130]

Technically speaking the computer is shown images that it replicates and “trains” on, the immoral part is that it takes billions of art that they don’t own or received permission to use.

[@vrictor]

i mean its not like its mixing parts of images, lol. The AI "trains" by using images as references and then when it starts to look good its published. By that(your) same logic, AI's mere existence would be "bad" because it "steals" everything it knows from internet. I still think its lazy to use AI to make art tho-.

[@schokolebkuchen]

mennnn.... I'm french and I hate absolutely when some artists want to place their stories in Europa and specially in France, but don't want to make some researchs about fashion and cultur. I know that many webtoon creators are not european (I think the majority is Korean) but please, don't create some fantasy dresses that are not correctly to this time. In 1889 we were in a time period called "Belle Epoque". If you want some example of (feminine) fashion, you can analyse the art and poster of Alfons Mucha who worked in France during this period and was one of the famous artists of Belle Epoque. Women wore long dresses with gigot sleeves, a coat and a hat and not a f*cking dress so short that we can see feet, or visible corset on that. And I don't talk about hairstyle.... And please, don't use modern slang or expression. We have many funny old french slang :( Edit : I watched the panel Jack things this is photo... Maybe it's some photography, but not a photography of France :/ The character looks like they wear some strange hat but we don"t have any hat like that. Maybe some slavic country

[@Debbie-CRK]

Saying "Photography is like AI art" is like saying "Being a fry cook in McDonalds is like heating up Lean Cuisine".

[@selmabm3409]

"What a great way to spend my Saturday morning" said the painter character written by someone spending their Saturday morning typing prompts.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

Still a much better way for someone to use their time than sitting in some random YT video comment section and complain about it!

[@selmabm3409]

@@viktoria_pikovsky no offence but I can’t take this seriously since you clicked on that same “random video” and took time to scroll through the comment section to write this. This creator is known for critiquing and complaining about Webtoons. I may complain, but at least I use this kind of content to work on my own projects carefully.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

@@selmabm3409 Yeah, you ALREADY took it seriously, bro. If you didn't, you would have not bothered to even type a whole paragraph in response to me in the first place.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

@@selmabm3409 that's a very fancy way to say "I watch webtoon review videos to laugh at shitty creators and stay away from their comics for my own works".

[@selmabm3409]

@@viktoria_pikovsky hmm. Nope. Rather watching reviews and take notes of things to avoid doing. Also, bold of you to assume I laugh at them and call them “shitty”. That’s what you’re doing.

[@kaitlynmorgan4613]

my first gripe was that they said cameras took seconds to take a picture, but early daguerreotype cameras took 20 minutes to take a photo and the earliest camera took 8hrs to days to produce a good photo. my second gripe (upon further watching) is that the story is "omg my art medium is being taken over and ill be out of a job/money 🤯🤯" but artists hate ai because its doing that same thing. my work, which is at a theater, has used ai images for projected backdrops and all i can think of is "we couldve paid someone to draw these and not have x mistakes/inconsistencies :/"

[@Yayyayaya656]

despite how bad the artstyle may be, adleast artists actually try to draw and not just depending on AI.

[@editdotexe]

Yeah that is one thing I can respect for it, but it would also have been funny to see a version that only uses his drawings.

[@snailandspider9178]

Being french and looking at France from the point of view of other artist or just people that aren't french in general will always be weird and funny for me lmao, it always look more like how people fantasm about it then how it actually look like or looked like. I wasn't alive in 1839 but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have looked like that at that time XD. Maybe it's the clothes of the peoples when they show the street before the art galeries but it just feel kinda off. (I don't think there is actually anything wrong with drawing a fantasmed version of a country you like, as an artist you can do pretty much watever you want, actually I said it feel weird but I saw a lot of other french people who like it and find it really funny when they're represented in media because like I said it's always romantized and never look like the real place at all so they can laugh about the differences between how people from other places see us and how it really look like).

[@Bi77er]

"This is the way to the Future". My man, many people said the same about NFT and cryptocurrency. Guess where they are now...

[@twilightspxrkle]

fr 💀

[@GlassesnMouthplates]

Wdym, they recently held a fest in Hong Kong that was so FIRE, that they burnt the attendees' eyes.

[@Saliferous]

Watching the Times lawsuit right now which is relevant.

[@darksidegryphon5393]

NFTs and crypto still refuse to die.

[@serperiorandtheanimator9216]

You know, I took a class called graphic medicine. It was about looking at comics that dealt with either people in the medical field or dealing with medical issues. Many of the comics were made by people who weren’t professional comic artists, and they were still very powerful. My teacher said “comics don’t have to be good drawings in order to tell a story” and I agree with her. It should at least be drawn. Let there be some humanity and error in it. Not errors made by computers.

[@aiiiia9971]

This! It is the human authenticity that is the soul of art. When AI is used as a sheild to hide ones humanity, "flaws" and all, the implications become dubious. The comic would have been more authentic to who they are if they kept the drawings they drew in it. The fact they didn't want to is a bit telling

[@MrJefferson07]

@@aiiiia9971 No, because people want something that looks good, they want a good result, they are not here to look at a second grader drawing, and they are definitely not here to pay 1200$ the pixel to an "artist".

[@aiiiia9971]

@@MrJefferson07 What "good art" is is subjective. Take a look at ONE mangas such as Mob Psycho 100 (which is insanely popular) The art is messier than any other manga I have seen but the story is amazing and millions love it. In the western world, many classic popular comics have a simplistic style, but because of the fun characters people adore them. Whats more, AI is still incapable of keeping character designs even consistent enough to not be totally distracting. And it doesn't even have a recognizable "style" or idenity that would make it stand out to audience unless it was trained to rip off of specific human creators. And the point of the writing is still not addressed. Have you read AI fiction? It's almost unreadable. Characters change names all the time, plot threads are chaotic and random, pacing is always wrong, and theres never a theme to speak of. Even these "ai comics" have human writers. Do you think you would enjoy them unironically if they were generated in chat GPT or something? Without that human touch it won't even be palatable or meaningful for other human beings to relate to and enjoy. Final point to make; I thought it was important to put my two cents but I will end this discussion here, because I'm sure that someone who would jump into a confrontation to defend ***AI ART COMICS*** of all things is not really interested in hearing out any reasonable argument. If you reply at all it'll probably just be something vapid and rude that ignores every point I made. I know how people act on the internet and I have low expectations for having actual adult conversations. Go read AI comics or something I don't know. Have a good day.

[@MrJefferson07]

@@aiiiia9971 I hear arguments, but you don't understand mine, whatever this A.I Webtoon is, I do not care, because I think A.I should be used strictly for individuals usage like my profile picture. You are talking about making A.I stories etc, which is something bad, because A.I will always gets something wrong, and it will get worse the longer it is. Pictures aren't affected the same way, the mistakes are still there, for an exemple, I've wanted a brown leather coat for the woman in the image, and since I've written "green eyes", it gave her green leather jacket. I'm defending A.I personnal usage, like when you need to replace a "Translator" voice, like with the recent drama that put light over Wokes taking over jobs to change completely the meaning of stories and many more. I use A.I to fight the ingerence of Wokism in the Art World, since they own like 90% of the Medias on Internet, A.I is getting banned pretty much everywhere. That's all, as for the exemple of Mob Psycho, I don't think it's fair to compare while A.I is still on baby footstep, it didn't have that much time to really evolve. Hell, it isn't even true A.I, it's just machine learning, which is a glorified way to say: "Auto-Generated Content with Computed Filters and Database."

[@thetwelfth9987]

Isn’t it so RICH that this webtoon is basically mocking itself? Like it’s trying to make us feel so sad uwu about the protagonist being robbed, being replaced, whilst she and everything else has being created with stolen art, all while the author is trying to justify themselves as an ‘honest’ creator, just as good as any artist, because we don’t know what goes behind pushing a button to shuffle around pre-existing images.

[@DanksterPaws]

I think that was the point of the comic

[@CruelestChris]

If you were to be needlessly charitable it could be the art of the comic looking bad is also part of the point that AI can't replace a human artist's skills, sort of a self-demonstration.

[@SunnysFilms]

I love how the costumes and hair change from panel to panel and not once are they even remotely historically accurate. lol

[@nixy1244]

I mean, at least they’re honest about it being AI generated. My take on the whole AI thing is, I think it could help with concepts and help jog an artist out of art block, but the way it’s being used I really exploitative. It should be used as reference when you can’t find what you’re looking for anywhere else. It shouldn’t be the project itself.

[@nixy1244]

@@taki7546 exactly

[@twilightspxrkle]

it’s very obvious to tell the difference between ai art and real art tbh, even when people claim it’s not ai, it’s usually obvious

[@aiiiia9971]

Yeah, AI is a great tool but it is being applied in a way that isn't ethical. It should have been directed toward greater uses. Not whatever this is

[@aiiiia9971]

​@NoProblemoBob Also important detail here, actual singers/voice actors CONSENTUALLY offer their voices to be made into vocoloids.

[@MrJefferson07]

@NoProblemoBob Nobody cares about your feelings that you want to be a rule for the entire Universe, we're free to live, we're free to access art, we're free to not have to consume your woke ideology in every corner of society.

[@shreddedcardigan3972]

1. They did not wear that shit in the 1830’s 2. Taking a photo was not that quick in the 1830’s 3. This comic is straight up doodoo balls

[@barrybend7189]

I like how instead of doing a story of actual art reproductions and showing a historical analog to lazy AI use they use photography which in the long run allowed these people to post their comics on webtoon and not have to sell on a news stand and copy everything by hand.

[@Gustoberg]

I use ibispaint a lot, and imagine my shock when I found an "AI" button, good thing it is the type of helpful ai, that detects spaces and these thingies, being a company from Japan I really was expecting them to go full on to the AI route lol.

[@acentertainment8589]

It’s always been there in the filters

[@kezektikorermen]

Where?

[@firstlast9855]

"ai art is the way of the future" no it really isn't.

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

Except that it's very much is. No matter how much you hate it, AI is here to stay, and there only would be more and more people who use it to create new art.

[@aprodelblod121]

@@viktoria_pikovsky yet another one of you droning on and on about this like a broken record with no actual argument. Yes, neural networks are going to be used more often, as long as you have enough data. What an ai generator spits out are assets. Either you know what you are doing and the result is irrelevant, or you end as asset flips, like this comic is. People who say "it democratizes art" are self reporting themselves, that they want to use assets they don't understand. The result is either in incoherent mess, or just uploading something not made by them and pretending they made it, even though a bot could have just as well. The only thing that can be associated with the author is the writing and the assembly of the images, none of the actual images themselves, which is a little sad, if you ask me. Ai art are the horrendous mobile game section of art and I don't think that's going to change.

[@youraveragesinner5474]

@@viktoria_pikovsky get a hobby

[@GlassesnMouthplates]

@@viktoria_pikovsky I swear every pro-AI art comment sounds the same, almost feels like they're posted by Bots, which is really fitting.

[@thechica3918]

@@GlassesnMouthplates lol what the hell is that mindset

[@alexandriaacord9895]

Honestly, the legend of John Henry stands out as a better metaphor for AI art than photography vs. painting. It's a direct story of man vs. machine and while John Henry loses the contest, he becomes a folk hero and the drilling he did get done is seen as better quality than the machine made. I'd love to see an updated version of this story with an artist attempting to beat an AI.

[@t1mburt0nsdandruff]

That’s actually a perfect example of this! Machines can’t feel emotion, so why is AI art considered better than real art?

[@aiiiia9971]

Yesssss I love that

[@Peachesdemon]

Gotta disagree..3:10 companies will try to use ai "art" as a cheap way than paying artists.. that's why people are freaking out/scared Freaking Disney was being called out for using ai for their thanksgiving artwork. People know how big companies are and have every right to be paranoid.

[@why.do.I.even.try.]

I'm just hoping this in turn brings a new rise in popularity of indie developers, with fully human teams. If everyone, not just artists start getting sick of the shit big companies produce then maybe we'll collectively start favouring indie games more.

[@Noblesse_Sapphire]

​@@why.do.I.even.try.also, i hope those indie developers learn from those big companies ' mistakes and not end up "corrupted" like them and actually care about their product quality, employees and customers 💙💙

[@Cayfur-kh1mk]

And they should freak out when companies use ai art Ai literally steals artstyle of other artists, would you like your work to be stolen and given no credit?

[@Persephone01]

​@@Cayfur-kh1mk This is why I hate AI art and platforns have people using it already. I create all my own art from scratch and while not being good, I can still improve. People who do this stuff just enter prompts and let the computer do all the work for them (with extra fingers lol) and steal other artists work.

[@MrJefferson07]

@@Persephone01 No one cares, and your "it steals people!" is just a blatant lie, you're just mad that you cannot charge 1200$ the pixel anymore.

[@Supernova2464]

I wish I knew how to explain all my opinions on AI art and Ai writing

[@editdotexe]

Hahaha, same.

[@Supernova2464]

@@editdotexe dot?!?

[@editdotexe]

@@Supernova2464 Yeah, weird how YT do that.

[@Supernova2464]

@@editdotexe I didn’t know you watched BLJ, why didn’t you tell me you were based?

[@editdotexe]

@@Supernova2464 It was just kind of recommended to me, I think I saw one of his videos on Webtoons once before.

[@barbararab6390]

You can tell the loser that "made" this comic doesn't know wtf they are talking about. I'm in art school and took photography classes, and let me tell you: it's not as simple as pointing a camera randomly and pressing a button. You need to know about composition, value, angles, the rule of thirds, wait for the right time so the light isn't in the way, how to carry the equipment. Especially on these old cameras where it took way longer to finish a photo, so you have to stay there for a long time. Photography isn't simple, and a whole different type of art. The author would know that if they actually put effort into anything in their life.

[@DeadVoxel]

Ironic! I'm an artist and I plan on taking a shot at photography as well. I always found it easier to photograph due to the already present artistic skills I have. I still have a long way to improve and learn, but it's definitely a lot similar in concept thus making learning way easier So many people are misguided on what photography and art are, the misconception around both is just insane. Photography is watered down to just a "point and click", and art is watered down to "well it's easy! It's not a real job, it's just a silly childish hobby". Or in case of digital art, "well it's not REAL art, you're drawing in a program and it makes everything for you!". Like no, AI is what makes the image for us, digital programs are just meant to help us keep all the tools we need in one neat place, we still draw by hand and it requires a lot of studying and learning, acquiring skills, and practicing for years, much like photography does But now it's the whole opposite, AI is considered "real art", but guess what? Once again, actual artists are looked down upon, and somehow AI is more of an art than what artists create... This is a sick joke, I swear

[@brandi598]

Fr Im a mainly 2d artist but I took 4 photography classes in college and it was one of my hardest courses. There is sooo much that goes into photography that no one can just pick up a camera and immediately become a great photographer. Also I think theres honestly a very incredible social element that goes into photography that is entirely ruined by AI. I saw an ai "artist" making "photographs" of female sumo wrestlers for "representation" and it really shows how ai destroys even the social element. Real photographers go out into the world and explore their subjects, talk to the people theyre photographing which makes not only the photo but the concept so much more complex and empathetic. Imagine if this ai artist had gone with a camera to real female sumo wrestlers and photographed them to give them a platform to show their skill, talked to them and gotten a greater understanding of their perspective, and then used that to inform how the photos were shot/edited. It would've been so much better and the photographs would've meant something. but i found that these ai generated images of female sumo wrestlers were almost like inflation fetish art. It felt disrespectful how the shots were.... somewhat pornographic? The way photographs are composed and shot holds meaning, and it showed to me how poorly the ai is able to capture the subtleties behind these choices. It will never be able to replace the depth that can be seen in real photography.

[@DeadVoxel]

​@@brandi598 right? That is a great point you have. I can see why they're trying to infiltrate the art space since it's more vulnerable and subjective, but photography???? The whole point of a photograph is to capture REAL objects/subjects. AI can never do that, it cannot capture an object, it can only imitate one. If they want to represent, they should indeed go out and find real people, instead of telling an AI to generate something that doesn't hold meaning or representation. This is just so stupid. People that use AI will never understand the point of art or photography, to them it's nothing more than just pretty pictures. It's way more than that, and the work that goes into both is incredible. This just shows how much people want to create something quickly and easily, without putting effort into it. This is just lazy and sloppy. Worst of all, they argue that AI allows them to have access to creating art. Like no, just pick up a pencil or a camera, and do it yourself. It's way better, especially because neither art nor photography are meant to be easily accessable to the public, both require a lot of patience and skill, and both have meaning, while AI does not

[@MrJefferson07]

@@DeadVoxel The sick joke, is that "artists" who are just wokes with a glorified name, are so mad at A.I because their little friends are getting thrown away by the people that does not want woke crap being forced upon everything. You didn't want poor people to access art, and I enjoy making A.I Art just for this.

[@DeadVoxel]

@@MrJefferson07 what makes it "woke"? And what are you even on about? You do you pal, but AI is also forced upon us from every corner, it's everywhere you go. Artists are brought down in favor of some soulless images, how is that any better?

[@fevid7617]

I think the metaphor only works when talking about all the artists during the invention of photography that was put out of a job, as suddenly you didn't have to hire a painter to have a picture of your family. I think photography is what mainly took art out of being only commission based and realism based into being able to experiment with styles. Art will survive after ai like it survived after photography but ai pieces' existence is predicated on it being stolen. These ai bros are not going out of their way to only use images in the public domain.. luckily for now though ai created works can't be copyrighted.

[@kookiesandcream5930]

1:25 finally, the Webtoon users did something right! Also, I feel like the idea of two completely different artists identifying with each other and bonding over it could've made a cute comic, but the A.I. elephant in the room, the blatant hypocrisy, and the lackluster storytelling completely ruined it.

[@Marrianno]

Tbh, idea of two artists bonding reminds me of living tombstones splatoon song about artists and musicians inspiring each other and working in duet. And its honestly such a cute concert!

[@millie567]

"Interesting" story, about how photographs are bad and somehow hurt art...While the comic itself is made with A.I. Art. A very hypocritical "comic", is what it is.

[@RattataPrincess2007]

It genuinely sucks that AI-generated content is even allowed on Webtoon... I would never use AI in any of my projects!

[@spicynoodles2742]

I mean is Webtoon, that site doesn't even have standards lol

[@themightyflog]

Webtoon is financing an actual webtoon AI software.

[@thechica3918]

bro a fucking kid-like drawing comic can be allow in Webtoon lol, what the standard

[@MrJefferson07]

@@themightyflog Ah, that's great! At least, even if Webtoons allows Wokism for some shady reasons, they have one good moral!

[@elujinpk]

This webtoon is literally what most ai art bros think is happening.

[@t1mburt0nsdandruff]

8:44 WHY IS EVERYONE WEARING DIFFERENT CLOTHES FROM DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS?? This proves that Ai art has NO knowledge of historical accuracy. 💀

[@emilylike-the-soup2502]

Karolina Zebrowska (fashion history KZbinr) recently put out a pretty interesting video about AI art as it relates to her field. You might like it. I think AI’s inability to make historically accurate clothes is partially because the general public isn’t good at identifying time periods. If the Internet is using “Victorian,” “Regency,” and “Edwardian” interchangeably, how is the AI ever supposed to tell the difference?

[@Polyeurythane]

Okay so this AI webcomic “author” clearly didn’t do any research into what a daguerreotype actually is. In my opinion it’s like a pre-camera camera because it’s such a different beast to later cameras. First of all, the reason it wasn’t used as often is because it’s typically used as a long exposure camera, you can’t just click and have the photo, and it took longer for the photo to be created if it was taken in darker lighting. Why? Because the photo is “printed” on a sheet of silver. Another reason it was quickly replaced was because it was extremely expensive, because the sheet of silver-plated copper had to be polished (imperfections/dirt would easily mess up the final result) and it had to be treated with chemicals to make a latent image that could then be made visible with more chemicals before it was sealed behind glass. So suffice to say it was extremely difficult to use a daguerreotype and the “photographer” in the story must have balls of steel because I don’t see any bags or extra silver sheets. Sources: Wikipedia- Used to describe the process better A college class I took on Art and Photography- Included the history of the daguerreotype

[@voguishthrone5887]

I hate AI art because most every model is trained off of stolen artwork.

[@georginanunez9393]

​@viktoria_pikovsky That isn't all artists tho, and they are still people making those arts. Sure, people steal ideas and trace and all that, but most decent human beings discredit and hate on those people. Unless your meaning people that use other's art for reference posing or using someone else artwork for inspiration on how to render, lineart, etc. Then your just comparing apples to oranges. Because people are using those tips they gathered from other artists for their own artwork. Ideas THEY are making. With AI art, not only is it blatantly stealing from people's art, but it's not even made by real artists, it's made by a machine. There's no creativity, no soul, no passion, no talent. It's a prompt someone feeds into it, someone who is too lazy to improve their skills. Now, I am not saying there is anything wrong with using AI art on their own. I have made an artpiece INSPIRED by an AI image I've seen. But using AI to sell or use as a medium is bad.

[@bootyyyshaker9000_ahem]

@@viktoria_pikovsky except that trancing, recoloring or photobashing other peoples artworks is frowned upon in the art community, but of course you don't know that since the idea of human conection and community is non-existing for an AI-Bro lol

[@viktoria_pikovsky]

@@bootyyyshaker9000_ahem Jokes on you, I'm a graphic designer. And photobashing, recoloring and tracing IS part of my work. and no, it's very much NOT frowned upon in the art community AT ALL, believe it or not. The trick is in using those elements in a way that makes it unique & different enough from the original source that the new work fully yours. it's called creating a collage, if you ever heard of something like it. Wait no, I don't think you did. Monkey brain AI haters are just too stupid for words like this.

[@imtrappedinmydadsbasement]

@viktoria_pikovsky no, because human artists learn from the artwork and think of how the art looks like from experience. Ai art takes elements from stolen artwork to make an amalgamation of what it thinks to be a drawing. Ai-made art depends on getting fed stolen artwork through an algorithm while human-made art doesn't. As the other commenters said, people still discourage tracing and stealing artwork, but ai doesn't know that's wrong.

[@ember9361]

get NightShade and help poison AI data

[@Creighty]

Never let A.I cook

[@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS]

There is something truly spectacular about complaining about art theft...in a comic made using a tool that just steals art to generate new art.

[@fanendey]

"It's a camera dude" ACKSHUALLY Dagerreotype was the name of that specific type of camera, one of, if not the first! And it "prints" on copper/silver instead of paper using chemicals!

[@daymare9134]

8:56 if this is taking place in the 19th century, why is she in what looks like a modern day art gallery? Couldn't this person have used AI to generate an art gallery from the 19th century?

[@Whatsvrmn]

Irony of the villain being an art theft in a comic that is about traditional painting in a comic made from ai that steals art

[@6knotty6thotty6]

It’s sad when people who can draw resort to A.I. Yeah, the author’s art doesn't look amazing, but it’s still a drawing. They still made art. With time and practice, they could turn that into a cool and unique art style. However, AI art and its fans don't want to make actual art. They just want an end product. One of the most insidious parts of this technology is how it says, "art is either bad or good" instead of what art is: creation through the lense of the human experience. I’d go so far as to say their art doesn’t even need to be that refined. Crude, messy, and disproportionate art can still look great depending on what you’re trying to convey. I hate this idea that all art has to be hyper polished to be “good.” How boring world life be if all digital art was semi/photo realistic paintings? The beauty of art is it’s subjective. What looks like a bunch of scribbles to one may look like a masterpiece for someone else. I wish the author just took the time it sit down and hone their skills rather than make a sloppy end product.

[@yukimisouzou3036]

Would it be rude if someone redo the webtoon to show people how Human can make it better?

[@s.t.a.pstudios4231]

Nope. Has no copyright

[@GreenRasqberries]

Nope 😁

[@slavishentity6705]

You can't offend a toaster, just try it.

[@yukimisouzou3036]

@@slavishentity6705 That's a tempting challenge ngl 🤣

[@eienforlife]

nah. I would've done it if I was better at art

[@the.avatar.and.doll.lover.]

Her: I hate change!! Her clothing changing every 2 seconds.....

[@lbwnova6654]

How ironic that the photographer was the one stealing art. If we were to follow this ‘metaphor’ then it’s not looking very good for AI

[@ferd3007]

"You're a filthy thief" Oh the irony

[@Kittyboi.]

Honestly, even though the metaphor wasn’t the best I thought it was an interesting idea and I personally think it would have been more fun if the painter was actually drawn and the photographer being ai generated, idk.

[@novaangle2183]

But that would have taken work and ruined their stance with ai lmao. I think it would be cool to make maybe something like that, like an artist and an computer who is 'personified' like a hologram that makes ai art and made by ai art and them interacting. Like rivals etc who then start to work together. Artists do sometimes use ai artwork to help with ideas or inspirations so it isn't too far out there.

[@Kittyboi.]

@@novaangle2183 exactly. That would have been a way better metaphor.

[@incineroar9933]

Why bother with making ai references when we have much better tools at our disposal already?

[@1faithchick7]

If AI was just used to feed your specific artwork into and only your specific artwork (instead of stealing art from everywhere) and that art was never shared with others, it would be great! It would be an awesome tool to auto fill colors in my comic. I would draw it all, AI would fill at least the basic flat colors in all panels. It would cut out so much monotonous work and let me focus on the creative part of my art. Sadly, that is not how it is used right now. That is the sucky part. It's just being used to steal other's art and make complete pieces.

[@audreyluan5325]

As a fellow artist, I agree with this 💯. I wish there are AI tools that are designed specifically for us, such as doing basic colorization and comic layout suggestions.

[@xXLazysoftwareXx]

where... did her hat disappear to? lol Man, reading comics like these and all the others you've reviewed really motivate and inspire me to finally make the leap and make my own comic! Wish me luck; It'll be my very first comic so I've been very hesitant on ever beginning. Stuff like this though just makes me want to do it out of spite, and boy is spite a crazy motivator 😂 Better get to it! ✍️

[@mousesunset]

The author put too much "iron" in his food it became "irony".

[@puppetmasterofficial0107]

4:00 I just realised she had one leg 😭

[@GreenRasqberries]

Bro to me I thought she was in that one Omniman pose 😭😭😭

[@twilightspxrkle]

that whole panel looks off

[@kendiikendoll]

13:55 the way I cackled. This webtoon is trying to show how art "changes and grows" over time but is just a mockery and a joke XD

[@mariahs6]

I agree, the main character was very shallow for giving up on her dream so easily. Photography and Painting are both wonderful art forms but don’t overlap each other. In fact, when have they ever overlapped each other? Never. The message just doesn’t work historically or with the fact this is made with AI.

[@Goozero1]

The side-by-side of the image prompt and final comp in the author's note really summed up the comic. People can leave comments dunking on the comic but the side-by-side comparison that the author themselves added in is enough of a diss.

[@Catttails.-.]

The only reason I ever use art Ai is either for fun or for reference images

[@5Megamen]

"Art is always changing and evolving" Is that the explanation as to why they have different styles almost every panel?

[@thorified1234]

Lol

[@probablyjinxed]

not trying to jinx anything but if the “artist” files a copyright strike that’ll be the funniest shit on the planet. like, what the hell would they even have the copyright to? the insulting amalgamation of thousands of peoples’ actual art lmao??

[@Somethingiguess-tj6xo]

Painting and photography are so different, I wouldn't really compare them. But yeah, it's SO IRONIC 😭

[@Aickelodeon]

There's something funny about an AI comic about being an artist. Also, there's a website like dedicate for AI comics and it's equally as bad as this.

[@lovelydreamingtime9563]

Yes, because skin tight dresses with a corset over the body, hair completely undone and with no puffed sleeves is definitely how women dressed in 1830s Europe. (I'm joking)

[@babyblue422]

I think whoever made this trying to say AI art is a new kind of art and is more advance 😒 ( like how artists take time to drawing something and photographers and AI artists can do it in a sec )

[@yuki0kurois0akura]

Omg an AI bro turned their own weird argument of "will AI is like when photography came out, artist hated that too but look at now" and turned it into a comic. God this is stupid XD

[@MartinMartini-kh5rd]

If anyone wants a recommendation for an actually good canvas webtoon, I would totally recommend Your Wings and Mine, it has great art and storyline!

[@yuki97kira]

I hate hate hate how these AI user (not artist) thinks AI is the same as photography. Photography needed skills, unlike generating some AI "art"

[@SecondBestArtMuseum]

Comparing AI Art to a camera would be better if the metaphor wasn't about a landscape. Like, if he was taking a picture of her canvas, that would be a more apt comparison, because AI art takes from people who went through the ordeal to paint and draw, while a camera is mostly used to capture people and places, the latter often has no human touch to it unless you're actively taking pictures of man made structures. But, of course this comic is supposed to be Pro Ai and paint artists as babies who are mad that they're "making art the easy way," the problem isn't that it's easy, the problem is that it takes from other people without permission.

[@Ars-Nova258]

This AI webcomic is making me want to quote Optimus Prime circa Transformers: Age of Extinction: “YOU HAVE NO *SOUL*!!!”

[@Kimo_Neko]

This argument was used in my college by my teacher on the subject of AI art vs Art and how it was similar to photography vs art back then. But anyone who makes this argument fails to realize that photography is literally a different medium with its own rules and conditions. Not only that but back then it was most likely pretty quick to make laws on photography vs art back then and no problems of big shitty companies trying to exploit it as bad as companies do today. Not only that but AI art litterly STEALS other art off the internet to combine with other art. It's like an art theft taking other artists different artworks and combining it all in photoshop but without the hardwork of learning how to use photoshop. It's lazy to the EXTREME. AI wouldn't be such a problem if idk the government actually gave a shit to put copyright infringement laws and laws to prevent exploit, if that was done then AI art would have been a great tool.

[@ulforcemegamon3094]

I recall that one AI art program has a rule regarding copyright ai art , basically *any* art made used the ai program lacks copyright protection , which means anyone can use , make money of , copy etc the image made by the ai

[@themphantom9138]

The Inconsistency reminds me of that Crunch Roll show, High Guardian Spice

[@valentinechoco6917]

The only reason why I sometimes use ai art is for references/inspirations. It's really hilarious seeing the creator's prompt for the Ai to generate, bro has her neck looking like a giraffe

[@lexfiles721]

The only real application I’d use AI for are some hilarious memes, cause shit looks so funny. Even then I wouldn’t substitute art with it

[@papaxota4725]

I do use ai for inspiration for characters designs and I dont give a fuck if other artists seethe about it. If it helps my process and drawings I will go on bing ai and draw the reference I get there

[@brandi598]

@@papaxota4725 I don't mind ai being used for reference but I just don't understand why you wouldn't just look for actual artists to use as inspo instead of ai. 90% of the time the actual artwork the ai is sourcing from is a hundred times better and more helpful in learning.

[@papaxota4725]

@@brandi598 because sometime I dont find what I want on pinterest or I dont want to scroll around for to long, as simple as that.

[@kirsch3]

​@@lexfiles721 like the BIDEN SHOUT It looks so goofy, the entire thing being made by AI and obviously having AI flaws just adds to the goofiness and makes it funnier lololol

[@berrybluebird3842]

They didn't even bother editing the comic art. It would have been easier and better looking to just draw the damned thing from scratch and manually write the dialogue in the bubbles by hand.

[@Gggrizz]

Also the historical inaucrracy in the dresses/clothes and overall information. They act like cameras could produce such high quality photos, that you could easily copy paintings lol

[@GVeraMoore]

I took an art history class when I was in college. At first I thought the comic was trying to parallel the time period when photographers first started popping up, and the people believed photography wasn't real art and rejected it. AI art is a terrible parallel to photography since there is still a sizable amount of effort to put into taking a great photo (composition, lighting, etc.). This comic, a series of images, can't even keep its art style consistent, nor can it maintain the art principles that would make it appealing to look at.

[@mangosarescary8748]

“Artist here make a living off their work” *hysterical laughter ensues*

[@dragonetafireball]

Once on KZbin I got an unhinged AI comic dub where the script it wrote was unhinged being about a woman who’s boyfriend cursed her to gain weight so her Native American stereotype of an ex told animals to burn the witch who hexed her to death and like it couldn’t even keep the characters hair colours constant.

[@mazerumaze]

Honestly, we need to stop calling it "AI art". Both parts of that are a misnomer. Just call it AI-generated or just generated images. The more we perpetuate it being called "art", the deeper we're digging our own grave here.

[@lonekirin905]

The cesspool just keeps on getting deeper and deeper

[@DrachenIvy]

when im in a "having zero self awareness" competition and my opponent is this webtoon

[@notjeih]

when I'm in a fanboyism competition and my opponent is an AI imagery supporter

[@SwuishyK]

I just find it ironic the message of the piece is supposed to be that cameras are challenging true artist.....but then proceeds to use AI generated images. Which is far more offensive and degrading to artists....

[@moolcazy3805]

Unlike Ai generated images photography actually takes skill and effort and helps artists by allowing them to have images they can use as reference to improve their art

[@Pelkann]

I literally thought the creator was using ai to roast it bcuz theres no way that its this bad and its unintentional 😭😭

[@mechakraken]

It's funny the webtoon works better as a critasism of ai more than its intended mesage.

[@aoihitori]

A.I. image generation + ChatGPT script = STONKS 😂 This reminds me of Cryptobros for some obvious reasons.

[@damelceri1009]

something a lot of people forget or conveniently ignore is that AI "art" is only made by stealing other people's artwork without their permission, it's why so many people hate it, yes, sometimes AI can help solving some issues, but the way people are using it is making it replicate something an artist already did

[@user-dp9ky9io3t]

I only used ai when i need a specific pose for a character cause im so tired of taking a photo of myself to create that specific pose. My dignity decreases whenever i fo it

[@Sadakorka]

what makes ai art so terrifying, especially in the context of the generated art compared to real works is that ai art can create non-objective images. a photograph captures only what is real and in reality; ai art can create something “new”, although everything is derived from previous real art. a photograph cannot be a replacement for art made from scratch because it cannot capture something that doesn’t exist in reality. ai art, while a terrible idea, has and will continue to be used by some “artists” as a replacement because it has the ability to create pictures of something that isn’t real.

[@ryuumajin]

Despite the inconsistency of each panel of the comic (and how the theme is pretty much either cliche, cringe or downright tone deaf), I gotta say the interaction between the woman and man in the 2nd chapter is pretty much "not bad", and in manga/manhwa way of saying it, the author knows how to compose the scene, NOT drawing it. The author could make a some kind of storyboard, that's for sure.

[@clownmonomaniac2630]

9:04 every artist has gone through this what is this man talking abt 😭😭

[@novakitty1619]

literally like why is he so fucking mad about the idea of an artist experiencing self-doubt lmfao

[@clownmonomaniac2630]

@@novakitty1619 fr this just showed up in my recommended and i was immediately put off at how angry he was at times LOL

[@novakitty1619]

@@clownmonomaniac2630 Literally 100% same, I came to the comments looking for someone who noticed it too bc it was so jarring how mad he got at such small things

[@Lovestruck_Records]

I like how they contradict their argument by using Ai art 🤭

[@xothium]

i think that was the intentional irony behind it.

[@LonelyAssassin96]

Honestly, this whole metaphor doesn't even work because cameras at that time were not able to reproduce color images at all. If the person taking the photo wanted color, they'd have to paint it on themselves, which kinda defeats the purpose. Taking pictures of a painting with that specific type of camera especially, wouldn't work. The picture wouldn't be anywhere near as vivid as the painting, and you'd need some pretty specific lighting conditions to even view the photograph in the first place. I myself am an artist. I also dabble in photography. In this day and age, both are equal as art forms.

[@nutmegdoesstuff1339]

Dude, the fact that they chose early photography, where you had to keep the camera steady for minutes at least for a black and white photo and pretending it was even in the same field as painting is crazy. Photography wasn't even considered art in the first place back then, and it took like decades of debate before it was even agreed upon that yeah, it could be art.

[@bananajewell8846]

About 10 days ago, Comicfury (another comic site) banned AI-art webcomics. When will Webtoon address this?

[@GlassesnMouthplates]

What I never get about A.I. comic "artists" is they have pretty much all of the workload of sketching, inking and colouring/shading done by a computer, yet they never make use of the time and energy saved (you know, the reasoning that A.I. shills keep on claiming as the benefits of using the technology) to at least revise the panels and get the consistency right. The biggest problem isn't because they're made by A.I., it's how the people who would exploit the technology tend to be people who don't even know the basics of producing a comic.

[@RubykonCubes3668]

Idk why, but this webcomic seems like a projetion / manifesto to make anyone who can actually draw and/or paint submit to Ai, even when you consider what it represents in a larger scope. Also, the dialog in this comic holy sheet- Was Chat GPT also involved?? How lazy can you get???