The Absolute State of the Comics Industry

The release of the 'unique' cover for Wonder Woman 1984 certainly ticked a lot of boxes, and may be peak 2020, but is the tide turning in the comic industry? Are the layoffs at DC a sign of wider changes to come?
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[@lightningfarronxp8899]

Comics in the 90s: "if you want to grow up to be like superman eat your vegetables and stay in school!" Comics in 2020: "if you want to grow up to be like wonder woman eat 2 big macs a day and harass people on Twitter!"

[@Raycheetah]

I don't post this often, but, LOL! =^[.]^=

[@jennrat513]

😂😂😂😬👍

[@theflashgordon193]

lmao

[@InternetStudiesGuy]

the dude who eats 3 big macs a day looks super skinny. You gon need more than that

[@illyria7756]

@@InternetStudiesGuy maybe "a small meal for an average person" from mcDonalds, as Diabeto called it.

[@gauloise6442]

Her thigh is wider than her waist. That is not anatomically possible. They are replacing one unachievable body type with another.

[@2thirds]

Some of the best bodybuilders in history come close to 1:1 waist to single thigh ratio

[@Raskolnikov70]

Have you been to a WalMart lately? Trust me, it's possible, but not something you want to see.

[@2thirds]

Example Dmitriy Vorotycev I'm pretty sure and I think Dorian Yates was also pretty close

[@sirquaffler542]

I've seen these Walmartians waking around, and I have to seriously consider whether they're smuggling inner tubes around their thighs or if they're disgusting fatasses.

[@richardhockey8442]

@@sirquaffler542 striving to generate their own gravitational field

[@HagbardCeline23]

I feel sorry for kids growing up in the Culture Wars. Being a kid used to be about playing and having fun. Now you have to walk through a minefield of mediocrity and risk getting scarred for life.

[@crusher5599]

I grew up in the 2010s so I'm not going to be stopped by some blue haired fattie on TWATTER

[@davysmith1934]

Thats....my gosh. That is exactly what I feared. They have been robbed of their childhood. Where will they go next? :(

[@martinportelance138]

And yet this had been running for a solid 40 years now.

[@captaingalaxy5265]

That is true Yep nowdays swearing isn't a big deal I do try not to but people get me angry too much in school

[@elineitz2428]

As a kid, this couldn’t be more true

[@martinb.1324]

I'm now waiting for beer belly Superman and skinny Batman, of course that won't happen because body positivity is only for women.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

Well we had beer belly Spider-Man in Spider-verse movie so it's something.

[@kyleorr533]

We had fat Thor...not that I mind as it fit a narrative. But I’m afraid marvel is going to ramp it up in phase 2 or whatever. No Ironman and more of this SJW crap = the nail in the coffin.

[@singhatar0912]

We about to see an all transgender green lantern corps.. I’m all for inclusivity but my god DC comics and Warner brothers are fucking dummies

[@MarcelMatani]

Thing is women dint need to get shredded and men do for these roles

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

are you asking them to create a gender-swapped version of those franchises?

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

I now have an inexplicable urge to hear the entire history of the American Civil War narrated by an inebriated Scotsman.

[@jmo2475]

I would pay to hear that.

[@Snakedude4life]

“AN DEN, THEES FOOKIN’ DUUDS, DAY FIGHT IN A FOOKIN’ MISSISSIPPI SWAMP! ASO LUTE! MAD LADS!”

[@spaceodds1985]

Same here. I smell a Kickstarter campaign about to be launched.

[@Hiraghm]

Well the inebriated Scotsman can make up whatever stories he wants, since America has never had a civil war.

[@yodaslovetoy]

@@Hiraghm 1861-1864 never happened then? All those folks died from shaving accidents?

[@wildtrickster4135]

Why would someone who trains intense and are at peak physical condition look like an "average" person. That's like me saying soccer and basketball players should look just as fat as me

[@nk_3332]

That's not the point. If such a person (in real life or in a comic) makes a lazy slob feel bad then it is the hard worker's fault and they are bad.

[@phabiorules]

I agree, I do think it would be cool to see different body types in comics (ectomorphs are naturally better runner than mesomorphs, so it would make sense to have the flash look more like the former), but regardless, they are still going to be incredibly skinny, and have plenty of muscle because they are very active.

[@steveouk90126]

It's an inverse of reality, allowing a payoff without investment. Look around the entertainment today: those who did not earn value are doing "updates" to preexisting works which denigrate them. Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who, Ghostbusters---all beloved properties which earned their iconic status by hard work; their _titles_ are being used as lubricants to inject failed ideas and ideologies back into culture as if a new sheepskin will disguise the hungry wolf. The overweight woman wants to be attractive, the cowardly soyboy wants to be brave, the pampered feminist with the million-ear audience wants to be oppressed, and all the rest.

[@gokux75]

Because it is all about "mUh RePrEsEnTaTiOn!"

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

My question is why an Amazon from an island in the Mediterranean would be chonkers like an average *American?* PS Both Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts tried "colonising" Israel years ago and hastily retreated. McD is here but they're always fighting to stay relevant. I'm sure the situation is similar all around the med.

[@whiterabbit75]

It's worse than you think. According to the, er, _artist,_ that... _person_ on the cover isn't even Wonder Woman. It's an alien _cosplaying_ as Wonder Woman. Moreover, that alien is an author avatar, so, yeah.

[@DantesInferno96]

Wait so it's a self insert?

[@whiterabbit75]

@@DantesInferno96 Eeyeeeeup.

[@shr1mpsush1]

@@whiterabbit75 "Fuck" -Geralt of Rivia

[@Quadrolithium]

Like almost every comic these "comic pros" make.

[@whiterabbit75]

@@Quadrolithium Yeah, that new not-Starfire YA novel is another blatant example.

[@Willowy13]

This is so horrendous. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 As a fat woman myself I strive to go back to my thin self and look like Diana. I don't want Diana looking like me.

[@NorekXtreme]

You comment is both so true and also hilarious! Don't give up and keep going! Wish you a great journey! :)

[@ChillyCharizard006]

She looks like rejected Steven Universe concept art drawn by a airbrush artist hippie.

[@elegantoddity8609]

It looks like a different character, maybe some star sorceress, just put on a wonder woman constume.

[@ChillyCharizard006]

@@elegantoddity8609 Cringey cosplay... I hope so...

[@peterzeppeli2563]

LEGIT!

[@wend2.082]

Celestia hair headass

[@iceman00behave]

Looks exactly like artwork you'd find in a feminist bookstore in Portland.

[@hungryewok1684]

"If you don't like my comics, don't buy them". Any one who says this should be fired so fast that their head should spin.

[@control_the_pet_population]

Not necessarily, you can't please all the people all the time. I get the general notion of "this product isn't for you, go find something else or make your own. The problem with the mainstream comic companies was that they figured their fanbases were locked in for life and they could make any changes and push any agenda they wanted. Hasn't worked out for them at all, and the new gender swapped MCU will land with a thud... But there isn't anything inherently wrong with "if you dont like it, dont buy it." That's the exact approach taken by all the creators who have gone indie. They aren't going to listen to Twitter activists because they know that isn't their audience.

[@SaurontheDeceiver]

Well, I disagree slightly; "If you don't like my comics, don't buy them" isn't necessarily a bad thing to say; some products just don't appeal to everyone. What they say on Twitter these days is more generally "Fuck you, I don't want you to buy my comics because I would rather win a moral victory on Twitter than sell a comic book".

[@control_the_pet_population]

@@BobDevV oh sure, I would agree that there isn't any excuse for an outright lack of professionalism. But telling someone that "my product isn't for you" isn't in itself unprofessional.

[@davidkyo1985]

@@control_the_pet_population Depends. If you're working for a company that's trying to profit off the comic books you draw, they might see it that way, even if you word it with a tad more thought than the average SJW crybully does.

[@OrnateRat]

"If you don't like my comics, don't buy them." You don't work for an online indie company that's trying their best. You work for a COMICS GOLIATH.

[@chasgalaxy6721]

The fact that Amazonians are a genuine thing/culture and were a major mythological race (which inspiredthe former), a warrior race created to fight alongside the gods themselves. Do these people understand the concept of what a warrior, y'know, someone who is fit, healthy, strong and doesn't look like they'd be out of breath after a 5 minute walk

[@patrickn.4113]

Really generous with the 5 min there

[@jimboi2318]

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made." - J.R.R.Tolkien

[@blueninion]

That wonder woman poster looks like she's turning into a Willy Wonka blueberry.

[@TheBelrick]

I bet that the political commentary was in response to Obama separating pedophile human traffickers from kidnapped children. Which in 2017 the media took upon themselves to rephrase it as Trump separating loved innocent children from hard working, law abiding, pedophile human trafficking "parents".

[@DeinosCZ]

blueninion: Thank you man I was wondering what the heck it reminds me off and it pissed me off that I couldnt remember :)

[@stevefinnegan5142]

.... the snozberries taste like snozberries...

[@scruffythejanitor1969]

Holy shit.... That's it exactly.

[@mayasharyasharala22]

Violet! You're turning violet, Violet

[@sanctumofficium]

As an artist, looking at that cover makes every single fibre of my creative being shiver and convulse with seismic gag reflexes. Also makes me reconsider my life. Why do I even bother putting in all this time and effort into my work when some fuckwit gains success through the comic-book industries equivalent to taping a banana to a wall.

[@beingsshepherd]

'Cast not your pearls before swine.' ~ Matthew 7 : 6

[@baruchhashem3719]

I value and respect your work, where can I view some?

[@bob74h67]

Such a simple design too like this is something that you would expect from a novice or animator not a paid professional not saying animators cant draw btw however it's just that said medium typically has less detailed designs as they have to move them around afterall so having to draw detailed clothing or body parts per each still frame is just too much work especially when you consider animation is not about the art design like comics or manga rather the movement if the model

[@SciFiDude99]

I'm an artist myself and I know what your feeling. In my beginner days I once took the opinions of others seriously and thought however they succeed in doing what I want to achieve I should do the same. Time passes and I learned however those fuckwits got into the industry that's their path, but every artists story is different. So whether art is just a hobby or you want it to be a career, make your own path and don't let the success or visions of others influence yours even if you don't agree with it.

[@sanctumofficium]

@@SciFiDude99 Yeah, the takeaway from all this is as simple as "don't take criticism from people you'd never ask for advice." My art is merely a passionate pastime that every so often lands a couple bucks in my pocket, and I'm more than comfortable with how it's going these days.

[@harrymills2770]

It's not just that she's thick. It's the art, itself. Something a 14-year-old flunking art class could manage. Entertainment industry will be fine. But the companies that went woke will not.

[@alx123094]

I have thighs like that so it's not an impossible body. But the art is definitely not very good. Cover art us generally better than the art within the comic right?

[@SusanDelgado1177]

Good

[@sparaxisblanc2473]

​@@yurrahtowel2904Nope, drawn by someone who disrespects the hard work of art.

[@zeked4200]

​@@alx123094 We've all been to WalMart, nobody doubts that people can have thighs that thick. The unrealistic part is *one* of her thighs being thicker than the entirety of her waist/hips. It's not just them being...large...at her size, that body shape would seem to be anatomically impossible. I'll have take your word that your body looks like that...quite frankly, I don't want to see...but I'd be lying if I said I'm not skeptical. Actually, how many hours a day do you spend in a corset? Because unnaturally manipulating your body is the only logical explanation I can figure for how you ended up looking like...that.

[@Bevzthejcs]

I think the counter-revolution started with "The Joker" (How ironic). They bucked the trend and showed that by ignoring woke politics and going back to good old fashioned film-making they made an absolutely OBSCENE amount of money..... A lot of people in all aspects of the media (including comics) knew then the game was up.... Just as sharks follow the smell of blood.... corporate suits will follow the smell of money, and the Joker film stank of it..... It was only a matter of time before the corporate overlords starting sacking people and trying something else...

[@INFILTR8US]

It was a critical and commercial success. Please share with us your plethora of awe-inspiring filmography otherwise kindly stfu

[@cheekyknave]

@@INFILTR8US I don't think you understood what was written there, lad...

[@ChrisR395]

@@INFILTR8US Wtf are you talking about, dude?

[@theall-usechannel8916]

The problem is, some people won't feel represented and the entertainment industry will boomerang back to the way it was before. So, I think were just in a cycle here.

[@theall-usechannel8916]

@@ender3675 You know I don't listen to people like THOSE OR you, right

[@Kyntteri]

Wonder Woman is now officially a regular Walmart Woman.

[@hayleys1260]

I think you win the comment section today.

[@thebatman4279]

This is a gold star comment ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@stevekillgore9272]

Not fair to Walmart shoppers and staff

[@SuperLloyd84]

Shouldn't she be on a Rascal then?

[@justinm2697]

And instead of the invisible plane it's a mobility scooter.

[@TheNefastor]

No, no, I think this drawing is actually a Wonder Woman, as in "I wonder if that's a woman".

[@visionist7]

Lmao!

[@samuelyoung5664]

🤣 yep that's the real secret of the Amazon's. They're all trans women.

[@TheNefastor]

@@samuelyoung5664 I don't think so. No amount of hormone therapy is going to turn a man's thighs into a couple of blimps squeezed in denim condoms.

[@altima22689]

@@TheNefastor I don't like what's going on in comics either, but this is my type in reality. I don't see how anyone could confuse a pear shape woman as trans, no amount of therapy will give you the estrogen needed to create hips and thighs like that.

[@NapoleonBonaparde]

Wonder; Woman?

[@aquarius5719]

Imagine training extra hard as Amazon warrior and end up with THAT body. Imagine fighting wearing some mama's pants instead of armor.

[@patrickn.4113]

right? How annoying would that be? :D

[@stone-ageraccoon1157]

"My 75th husband used to call me Wonder Woman." "Why is that? Because you were brave, strong, loyal and true?" "No, because he used to wonder if I was a woman." - Broom Hilda

[@Dowlphin]

Could be a dwarven joke.

[@Bluecloudprod]

"Executives selfishly deciding to listen their customers for once." - Critical Drinker BURN.

[@canadiandeplorable6413]

He's a sarcasm Jedi.

[@Xehanort10]

But apparently to those companies listening to their customers is supposedly "toxic." For wanting quality they're insulted for not blindly liking and praising everything.

[@kyotheman69]

not sure how that industry kept going when they had retards running it, in normal business if you alienate your customers you would be FIRED, seriously these yahoo's and weirdos are lucky they were able to keep a job this long, but how times has changed and AT&T wants to make money, so kiss these morons good bye. Moral of day go woke, GO BROKE!

[@TheEvertw]

@@Xehanort10 Yeah. It will never cease to amaze me how the epitome of a commercial enterprise suddenly got a "conscience", and starts to prefer expression and artistry over income. It won't last.

[@scifiwriter98]

LOL

[@UnderratedBurnyBadger]

Anyone else remember when we had female characters who *weren't* smug, bitchy, vindictive, pretentious, and self-important twats and who *didn't* actively emasculate and talk down to every man they meet? I miss those female characters.

[@UnderratedBurnyBadger]

@jigyoda I've liked plenty of characters who were girly girls. Elle Woods from Legally Blonde being a prime example. What I don't like are blatant self-inserts that act as bitchy and self-righteous as the people who create them.

[@wiictvchannel1112]

@jigyoda What? What do you mean by girly girls?

[@UnderratedBurnyBadger]

@jigyoda And a likable character who grows as the story progresses.

[@orencio1969]

hell I miss those females now.......

[@bertrandsalaun3721]

Imagine if we did it the other way around... Stick your head out of your bucket: those traits you find in Women characters can very, very much be found in a lot of Men characters, you're just used to it. Talking down to women is very accepted in a lot of ways. I am not for extremism, or wokeness. But I despise the will to stay encapsulated in a point of view. Try and adopt the one of the people you hate the most. You might find yourself righteous in the end, but you might learn as well. You might also learn and become even righteous-er. Win-win. Next time a feminist or SJW comes at you, sit back, relax, and try and put yourself into a different perspective than the one you always knew. I don't agree with everything, but I also know that no one ever whistled, or made openly sexual or rape-ish remarks towards me in the streets, while being twice my age. It's a thing very few women can say, and it tells something. Maybe in the end, it shouldn't be about antagony, but cooperation. Stop getting defensive when people get aggressive, and teach aggressive people to be less aggressive. Win-win again, and working together towards a more humane future. :3

[@Glisten456]

"I got intimidated by Knight Thrasher who had a blade coming out of his wrist" Well, that's kind of the point.

[@Tronathon242]

Shit like this is why I'm heavily invested in manga, comics from the past, and independent series in genres other than cape shit.

[@goaway5297]

You'll be happy to hear a single Manga (Demon Slayer) managed to outsell the entire US comic book industry then

[@kossettereaditte7552]

Same

[@Tronathon242]

@@goaway5297 I had a very good laugh.

[@insidiouspancake5590]

@@goaway5297 “omg, why do people like Tanjiro?!!?? he’s only superhumanly strong from years of hard work and exercise *SUPPORT MY LAND WHALE FEEL-GOOD STORY!* “

[@meddlingmage23]

That doesn't make sense cuz back in the 80s, women weren't ok letting themselves look like crap yet.

[@mindandbody9427]

@Zoomer Waffen Now there is a term worthy of return and in need of much use...."gutter trash" - Dudley SFIII.

[@item6931]

@solomani And you played Traveller lol

[@mehitablestorm8877]

Good point - one of the most popular thing in the 80s were Jane Fonda & Richard Simmons videos. Women were big into fitness. Now they're just big.

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

The concept of 'be yourself' is abused by these fat loser who think being fat is being themselves

[@aguyfromnothere]

We live in sad times. Asians will inherit the earth.

[@luminousmonkey4512]

Watching this while doing my daughter’s hair. She loves Wonder Woman, she looks at the picture, “Who’s that?”

[@scottmantooth8785]

*the point has been made by someone of exceptional brilliance*

[@combat-coz]

Someone hire that kid to do the next cover.

[@Fluoride_Jones]

+LuminousMonkey I hope your response was, "No one, Sweetie. That's no one."

[@herheartbeats5727]

Your daughter (of whatever age) just sounds like a really sensible person. I sincerely hope she'll make a good way in life, because so much people would probably just hate her for that.

[@CarrionCrow993]

Don't tell her. Say its cosplayer fan art.

[@croweman6515]

Say what you will about the Joel Schumacher Batman films, at least he had the decency and the BALLS to apologize to the fanbase rather than insulting and belittling them, when his "Batman And Robin" was received so poorly. You see, that's what we call... "being an adult".

[@NorekXtreme]

To be honest I really never " held a grudge" against Joel for f-ing up Batman. He was the wrong guy for the job for sure, and given the amount of trash people gave him for screwing up, he remained respectful to the people he pissed off. And another thing - his movie was partly responsible for Batman Begins and the new era of comic book movies that followed. In addition - B&R is hilariously entertaining to this day, makes me laugh more than 90% of the comedies in the last few decades, so its all good I think! :D

[@Love-Sensibility]

Batman and Robin has its charms

[@jamesrfb]

In junior high I was fat and DEFINITELY DID NOT want to read stories about fat super heroes - I believe having positive role models helped inspired me to lose weight and get into shape as I went into high school.

[@Dowlphin]

One reason why Japanese are so slim is because they have a cultural habit of politely but quickly reminding you when you're out of shape. And that's actually quite wise, following the natural approach, immune system style: As soon as you see something getting a bit out of hand, you act immediately and it resolves easily. This could even be related to Toyota Kaizen production philosophy which teaches the same approach.

[@calemr]

1: As a fully admitted lover of big chicks: They don't look like that. The proportions are way off. 2: Why the fuck would Wonder Woman, the literally crafted by the gods Amazonian who trains constantly for athleticism and muscle mass, be Fat? If your job is built on your physical combat capabilities, your speed and strength... You're going to be fit. How many MMA champions are fat? You want a fat hero? Zephyr, A.K.A Faith Herbert is a perfect example. She's telekinetic. She uses that to manipulate, among other things, her body, so she can fly. Ergo: she does very little exercise. It makes Sense that she'd be overweight. Wonder Woman should Always be fucking Jacked.

[@6581punk]

The artist claims it was just a collaboration picture and wasn't aware it was going to be used as a cover. I wouldn't hate on the artist as it was DC who decided to use it. She's just doing what she always does.

[@brianhomer4033]

Dude ah totally agree with everything you said, but not to shit in your sink but Daniel Cormier is ah tad chubby.. 😎

[@illyria7756]

So Faith is basically lazy asf lol. Makes sense. The fantasy of lazy fat people. Xd

[@likelemmyidabasest3882]

Daniel Cormier, but he is also insanely fit, just carrying some weight in the old tum-tum. But I am being a pedant, why can't people just appreciate The Blob and be happy? Like SJW's he cannot be moved...

[@deathpyre42]

Re point 2: Hear me out: this wonder woman art makes perfect sense, if you consider how Greek stuff was adopted by the Romans. See, Roman gladiators were often a bit pudgy because they wanted a layer of fat to mitigate sword cuts, since their loadouts were designed to entertain. And the gladiators are remembered to this day as a grotesque blood sport that was the symptom of a society in decline due to degeneracy. But, gladiators were more than mere slaves. They were part of a propaganda machine (bread and circuses), they were often used to sponsor and promote products, and they were cruel mockeries of former enemies of the Roman empire. Back to Wonder Woman, she's gone from a Greek heroine to a cruel mockery of what she was, existing only to be a lazy advert or propaganda tool. She's being paraded around by people who don't respect her and actively tore down what she is. Just like the Gladiators of yore mocking the Samnites. So, purely by accident, this new body type perfectly represents what she is through the lens of Greco-Roman history.

[@tomoliver2112]

Politics aside, the art is just plain bad and juvenile.

[@carybeweary7209]

Her eyes are creepy as hell Why is she blue?

[@sacredheart9053]

It's a literal insult towards black women. "She's so dark, she looks blue." 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@AudioGAWD]

Even that basic pic could have been better and more detailed smh

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

@tk k You never stop improving as an artist, man, and there's a massive boom in the illustration industry going on right now. I know social media is cancer, but if you're savvy and a good artist, you can make a killing or get a really nice job by creating a strong following or/and a professional online portfolio. Check places like Artstation, you'll see career paths are endless if you can adapt and evolve.

[@TheEvertw]

@tk k It doesn't look like a healthy workplace, for now... But then, there are many ways to be an artist.

[@slickryder]

wouldn't be suprised if there was a comic book where the protag's only power is to cancel poeple

[@iliagluhchev2821]

"My hands will rise from the depths of Hell (twitter), And I will ruin your life because of a man you smell; What I draw could barely pass as art, And my comedy is no funnier than a fart; When I start to bitch and whine, Go outside and save yourself some time."

[@annademo]

This is the outcome when every child gets a participation trophy and merit becomes unacceptable.

[@jimjimerson6865]

I used to feel threatened by this woke horror nonsense. Then I realised we’ve only been hearing from a tiny militant angry irrational minority, and the silent majority who hate this are now standing up. This will pass and important things will be important again.

[@herheartbeats5727]

Well, not as optimistic as you but still think you're right : the more you give them the more they despise and eventually crush you. Being crushed for being crushed, better being that while disdaining them.

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

I hope. For me, these woke people are the new nazis. Everyone seems to think it's cool "diversity, yay!", but when they get a hold of a country WWIII will start. Maybe I'm a little dramatic but they do feel like the new nazis

[@herheartbeats5727]

@@Doctor_Straing_Strange Unfortunately I agree with you. And it probably gets wider than just some political side. I really think tribal wars are becoming a huge political / social tendency *back* in the West...like soon close to 2000 years of social, political and economical progress will just be wiped out as if they never, ever existed. . That *is* a bleak though, I know. On the other hand, the deeper I think about it, the fewer arguments I find against that hypothesis.

[@ultima2399]

Can this please pass fast? I just turned 18 and I'll be damned this is the era I have to live in for like 20 years before FINALLY it gets good again which by then it won't even matter anymore

[@herheartbeats5727]

@@ultima2399 Sorry man (or woman) you look like of good faith, and really bothering about the state of our societies now...I have few advice's to give to you, except : . -learn / keep an useful trade, and keep proficient in it . -defend your own values well . -find ways to exchange with people who are able and willing to trade real values to you, but don't forget to keep some distance (and to watch your own values). . Because, History learns us, when societies begin to change, then they cannot go back to the previous state within decades (sometimes, not even within centuries...in fact sometimes it never happens).

[@christopherrahoche1759]

That moment when Wonder Woman suddenly looks like a Tumblr social justice warrior

[@DanielSzilagyi]

The one thing about the art that to me sticks out is that it's this style of the last 6-8 years that's slowly gotten more and more popular, I think in part because people who yearn to be an artist can see that and think "gee, I guess I CAN become a paid professional" because the bar has been lowered so much. Most new animated series look ugly and while from a production view it makes sense (simple = easier to animated) for comics and other things, I guess the main draw (pun intended) is that it feels more "real" to people, and by that I mean a whole bunch of them who gawk at Tumblr and think most of it is great and now think they too can do this.

[@thedarkestknight0590]

I generally enjoy reading comic books. However, the entire experience is ruined by the constant need for writers and publishers to push their ideas and agendas. I don't care about body positivity when I am reading a comic or graphic novel. I just want a good story.

[@aelius3805]

"Legs like zeppelins stuffed into denim condoms" is my new favorite sentence.

[@AllanGildea]

That's talent!

[@gabrielboorom6196]

Oh, that explains the flammable gas I smell...

[@toryficarola]

*lol*

[@thedudeabides3138]

Yeah, have to say, that had me giggling my tits off.

[@aelius3805]

@グールにも愛が必要 Lol. Nothing wrong with being ｔｈｉｃｃ．

[@spiritoftruthcoaching1720]

Wonder Woman is dead. Long live Wonderbread Woman.

[@BoopBobBeep]

Woker Woman

[@aeternusdoleo4531]

Super Woman about to be Supersize Woman too? I wouldn't be surprised...

[@thebloocat]

Blunder Woman

[@gabrielboorom6196]

You know she has foodstamps.

[@14sixtyone]

*womyn

[@allisonundercover9959]

Safespace seems like the kind of superhero that would be in a cheesy educational I would make fun of at school.

[@anttt7993]

Dude, you are so spot on. I consider watching reviews kind of junk entertainment usually, but you make me feel comforted because I get to hear that someone else sees what is going on in the world. And I appreciate your humor too of course. Perhaps put in more clips of that older lady saying "shite" more often, I like her.

[@hyperdragon001]

DC's proudest moment; To go out not with a bang, but with a social justice whimper.

[@illyria7756]

The sound of soy sauce going down the drain.

[@Gnostic88]

And a vapid vaguely smug smile on a Steven universe parody cosplaying as wonderwoman.

[@UsedGames]

She has that facial expression that says I got that guy wrongfully arrested and no one will ever know.

[@patricklee5239]

The Shadow knows...

[@Gnostic88]

She's also thinking of how much she'll enjoy adopting his son and declaring him gender-fluid.

[@RobotHau5]

@@Gnostic88 lol cuz she didn't want another 'man' to ruin the world.

[@Gnostic88]

@@RobotHau5 Yeah it has nothing to do with being drunk with power at all lol. She's doing it to save women and non white cis males of course.

[@worldcomicsreview354]

"I drove that man to suicide and made myself look like the victim"

[@warpax497]

This makes rob liefield’s art look god tier art. Yep i said it.

[@c-secofficer123]

I used to be an avid comic book reader, had my own box at my nearest comic book store. And I ended up closing my account and cancelling my orders because I just literally have had zero interest in buying any comics. I don’t think I’ve bought a comic book since 2016/2017? I’d rather just go through my classics like Punisher Max or Long Halloween etc

[@almuhaaajir]

This picture means DC started by laying off the whole marketing team.

[@martinstein9553]

Dang! Where is that person going to find work?

[@KEYBLADE4BUY2]

@@martinstein9553 "person"

[@alejandrohualdez5550]

Does anyone remember 'escapism' in entertainment instead of relentless preaching?!?

[@ericmiller5603]

I do. Avid Marvel Comics fan from the late 70’s through late 80’s. I have great memories of reading Byrne/Claremont X-Men, John Romita, Jr. Spider-Man and many other titles that were 100% about great art and storytelling with universal appeal, not socio-political agendas.

[@normadgarmez7026]

✋

[@IzzySarru]

Escapism is racist/sexist now. You HAVE to make everything about politics. If you're not an activist at all times, you're evil.

[@stefanoputignano1555]

I do. Usually when I dust my father 30 year old Mac and play the first prince of Persia

[@juliagoodwin9510]

THANK you!

[@sethmiller4596]

love your videos bro. lol. I'm writing a research paper about this topic and it's going very well. thanks for the inpiration.

[@luke_Citino]

I always wanted to be a comic book artist when I was younger, not anymore, unfortunately. I would want to draw godlike characters with exaggerated muscles, not this crap.

[@SirButtz]

the fucking do it, don't blame wokism for your lack of motivation, there's a fuck ton more to comics than DC and Marvel.

[@devyboo2]

Remember everyone, the Manga industry has been flourishing for years, even far outselling comics in America. It's not an issue with the medium and it never was.

[@absolutemadman110]

Japanese publishes are trying this crazy tactic called: 'selling quality products'

[@devyboo2]

@@absolutemadman110 Honestly I think the main difference is the the Japanese Manga business doesn't really try and mess with the creators work on an artistic level. Editors may offer changes and strict deadlines kill plenty of Manga's quality but the stories aren't corporate swill at the end of the day.

[@LouLikestowatch]

Mangakas are real artists and story-tellers. They own their work and can create what they like. I only read manga, because it is free online, and it is the best.

[@PolarizedMechs]

@@devyboo2 Some are corporate swill, and there's a lot of "follow the leader" in the manga industry. But even the follow-the-leader manga are still far and away more inventive and less cookie-cutter than Marvel and DC are these days. I'll take yet another "I died and got reincarnated in a fantasy world" story any day over Fat Woke Wonder Woman.

[@PolarizedMechs]

And there's some independent comics here in the States that aren't bad either. Hell, the MLP comics are better written than anything Marvel's put out in years.

[@IbrahiemLegoFilms]

God do I miss Constantine, Sandman, Fables, Sin City, all the masterful adult comics

[@Chandasouk]

Is Fables really good? I could never get into Constantine personally.

[@IbrahiemLegoFilms]

@@Chandasouk Well I frickin loved Constantine, Fables had of course The Wolf Among Us video game, which was a complete masterpiece in my opinion, so I tried the comics. They're badass for the most part, but unfortunately Bigby doesn't look all that great. However his and Snows relationship is probably one of my favourite romances ever written so there's that

[@niccolomachiavelli3907]

I saw the cover and haven’t been able to sleep for days.

[@Chandasouk]

@@IbrahiemLegoFilms Yeah, I played the game a while back too! There's just so many trades of Fables that I wasnt sure if I should dive all in. I'll see if any volumes are at my library or something.

[@grantdreyo2585]

@@Chandasouk The Fables comics are my absolute favorite. 150 of them and one video game. Sgt.Rock is also amazing as well.

[@LJW1912]

Almost impossible to believe that this is the same company that produced things like Watchmen and the Extremist

[@thereal_ayden6402]

I’m actually related to general pickett and when you started talking about his dumbass charge I immediately thought to myself “well shit here we go again”.

[@8Dataman8]

At this point, they aren't even failing to make good stuff (and therefore money), they are REFUSING.

[@Italian_Scallion]

I'm reusing my joke but she looks like she's about to punch a McDonald's employee for getting her order wrong.

[@michaelplatts8052]

So...more of a Wonder Karen, instead, mom jeans and all...?

[@sophiarose7329]

So if you gotta reuse it homie that means it wasnt funny the first time around. 🥺

[@kenb2671]

All while doing the Karen head shake with an oh no she din’t!

[@Doctor_Straing_Strange]

Wonder Karen.

[@harryfromwork]

lol...awesome

[@ThousandTimesNo]

That's the most valuable channel i've subscribed so far. The best thing is i don't even agree with everything You say in Your material and still i'm coming back with every notification. It's almost like "we don't have to like eachother to have respect and understanding one another". All in all this is the way to live forever no matter how bad condition Your liver is right now.

[@johnymcmememan2151]

There's definitely gonna be people out there they say stuff like "you're wrong because society generally looks down on women who do not meet their patriarchal standards of femininity and that her new design represents how women with more natural bodies can be great" and sure you may have a point or two there but these super heroes were originally made to represent the peak of who we can be physically and mentally,and they were made to inspire us to strive for better. Completely changing their character to fit the "new" times shows no respect towards their original purposes and what they stood for. Never be ashamed if your body doesn't exactly look the best because that's ok,but that doesn't mean you can't strive for something better than that.

[@O4C209]

"Selfishly deciding to listen to their customers for once" Exactly.

[@kyotheman69]

what actual business should do, you want respect your customers so you can get MONEY, comic industry made no sense before how it ran this long, in normal business all those weirdo's would of been fired, I would be fired my job if i told customers to piss off, id be out door in no time if i didn't shape up.

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

"I don't like ass kissers, flag wavers or team players. I like people who buck the system. Individualists. I often warn kids: "Somewhere along the way, someone is going to tell you, 'There is no "I" in team.' What you should tell them is, 'Maybe not. But there is an "I" in independence, individuality and integrity.'" --George Carlin.

[@NatePrawdzik]

There is no I in team, but there are five in, "veni vidi vici".

[@travisking8577]

There's no "I" in team but there's only one in win.

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

He also said private property was a mistake. George Carlin talked a lot of contradicting shit and let fame take away his perspective. You need team work to actually get shit done, but hey, its easy to deride others when you're living the grand life talking out of your ass, eh George? I agree with Carlin on a lot of things, but I also think he said some deeply retarded shit in his day.

[@brucemcinnes6348]

Also: There may not be an I in team, but there is no 'f' in way! - Lee Mack.

[@visionist7]

@@NatePrawdzik I can picture Wonder Woman saying that to the Justice League after hearing the OP's words of wisdom. Aquaman would be all like "...eh? Is that Greek?'

[@gortmundy01]

Here am I, in sunny Aberdeen, back in lockdown and bored shitless, and here you come, like an inebriated champion, rescuing me from this unending drudgery. You are a hero! I owe you a dram my good man! Keep em coming.

[@redacted8567]

Yes, because it’s incredibly fun to read about perfectly average characters who do everything averagely.

[@marcusskyfall]

All I'll say about this "version" of wonder woman is... Go away now!

[@PosranaRegistrace]

DC: "Nah, will be fine."

[@mitchp85]

@@Ballbaggins Drunk on Big macs

[@greglemieux9809]

Lol. As quick as possible.

[@flyingfireballmaster1816]

Meh. It doesn’t look bad to me in and of itself. I actually kind of like the design. But this is not Wonder Woman. This is not someone inspiring for young women. Heck, this design doesn’t even look like something that should be in the DC Universe.

[@GoldInk-ds5up]

Is DC hiring tumblr 'artists' for the comics? Because holy shit. Gross.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

F for fugly, I mean respect. /s

[@samreddig8819]

After Amazon bought tumblr they purged most of the "artists". I heard theyre on twitter now.

[@thepsychicspoon5984]

No, they hired off diversity hire cause the company leaders didn't want to get called a ----ist and risk losing money. So then via force, they hired these "diversity consultants". Some by the companies thinking by complying, throwing money at it and hope it goes away, others by city, county, state mandates and laws. See they hit the politicians first and most politicians. Same with Companies and Corperations neither didn't care as long as the bad PR is out of the spotlight and they make votes and money respectively. However, as you know these "diversity consultants" have no stake in the business, except to make sure everybody follows the "new rules". Thats how a certain 'Anita S.' got so much influence in the gaming industry. Then they work their way to getting rid of the old leadership, a corporate coup d'etat. After that as a old saying goes, "shit rolls down hill".

[@GoldInk-ds5up]

@@thepsychicspoon5984 bottom line, get woke go broke

[@Relugus]

Variant Cover.

[@teabearchurchill5600]

Unlike (I'm guessing) a lot of people commenting here, I actually went and *read* the "I Am Not Starfire" book. The tragedy is bigger than you know. Because I could see how it could have been a *good* book.

[@qtarokujo3694]

Japan: *"The future is now, white man"*

[@OgIKidd]

DC is actually the second Domino to fall, Marvel was doing this bullshit first, and got their asses kicked by the numbers. For some reason DC decided.... "Yeah, I wanna collapse my comics division just like that," and now here we are. On the one hand, it's super unfortunate watching this happen to the two giants that have stood the test of time providing countless memories to so many. On the other, they've both infamously treated their writers and artists like absolute shit, so maybe this is some kind of delayed retribution wreaking havoc on them. As long as Dynamite and Darkhorse are left alone, I'm honestly not complaining.

[@whyuhatan]

Dark horse has been putting out some pretty good stuff lately Their Vader comic for instance is awesome!

[@service-smile210]

@@whyuhatan That Vader book is a marvel one if it's recent, marvel has had the comic rights to star wars for a few years now

[@whyuhatan]

@@service-smile210 Not talking about the recent one

[@service-smile210]

@@whyuhatan ah okay, my bad

[@bronsonmacleod8533]

Image comics too

[@Christo_Coop]

The sad truth is this, it is no longer “entertainment.” It has become something else.

[@Dagoratho]

When art meets politics, is no longer art, its just propaganda.

[@perseusjoppa426]

It's become shite.

[@magicjohnson3121]

Propaganda

[@anicjan4654]

@@Dagoratho Not true. You can have political stuff in arts...IF...you explore the politics. That means giving voices, faces, humanity and nuance to ideas and opinions you may not like. It's one of the reason good stories with dividing topics that do explore something can be seen as mirrors of our own issues sometimes. But these arrogant, pig-headed, self-righteous leftists activists cannot concieve of a world where their opinion is not absolutely morally the best one and thoroughly believe that even expressingly an idea contrary to their own is some sort of offense on them, their beliefs and the world and balantly make it clear they would silence everyone if they had such power. Good writing with politics is exploring a political concept but fits the world-gun control for example in xmen...would gun ownership go up with random mutants running around and can you blame people for doing so when some angsty teenager can mind rape you if you give them the chance- Exploring a theme like that is political but it also builds a world and human reactions and the consequences of those reaction. In this given example: pranking or tresspassing teenagers might accidentally get shot by spooked guard or home owners more because the mutant scare is up...probably after some big event in world and teenage gangs and groups tend to make dumb choices together and be rebellious.

[@matthewalston7234]

It's all about the identity politics and indoctrination. Nothing else matters anymore.

[@arisette5386]

this is the video that got me to subscribe, great video my friend!

[@daistoke1314]

At Gettysburg I think you will find that the Union army was commanded by a strong diverse women. Or it will be in the next film about the battle.

[@davidmccullough2466]

I'm intimidated by the stupidity of the comic industry, their crap is destroying my favorite comics, well them and disney

[@toganium4175]

A Scottish man is giving me a lecture on American history. What a time to be alive.

[@jakubrejak1114]

@Randy No, they were reasonable and collected, they would never unleash hell upon America regardless of its state. But I agree they would scold you for what you've done.

[@wolfieinu]

At least the Scotsman's take on American history was far more accurate than the American take on Scottish history

[@kurtisstryker2299]

Is north american history that hard anyway? ..its not that long

[@jakubrejak1114]

@Randy Yes. They really shat on Diana's character here. As for your forefathers, I believe they would take the same stance as I do: America isn't beyond saving. And it's not left, or even the right what is destroying it. What really is the problem is fear and paranoia, which cause both political options to seek enemies everywhere. Americans aren't the purest nation, but there is still hope for you. Yes, hope. You were born by it, you thrived on it, now it's time to use it again.

[@joesouthborn2960]

@@wolfieinu Adam Smith was Scottish. He got a lot of respect in the US of A

[@therevelistmovement4683]

I stumbled upon this in a comic store. The curiosity was magnetic. It compelled me to pick it up, and I was as evenly impelled to reach. I flipped the cover and first page (not really bothering to read it), but I did vigorously scan that book for anything reminiscent of the cover and...nothing. It was just a cover; the inside housed a skinny Wonder Woman, and that's all. That truly shocked me, that day.

[@anthonyalvaladero]

As a writer myself this does kinda motivate me to be better and “follow my own path” per say. To me it shows that we need new stories as it seems like these stories and characters are beginning to fade away at the hands of “artists” who want just take something loved and recognizable and turn it into a voice for their own BS.

[@Timasion]

Hundreds of years ago, we had legends. Stories about gods who fought and struggled. They were supposed to be inspirational. They weren't supposed to be like the rest of us.

[@shr1mpsush1]

Child: "Mom, can I have a female representation?" Mom: "No honey, we have female representation at home!" Female representation at home:

[@gabrielboorom6196]

No mom, that's not a female.

[@archivist_13]

Mom I don't even think they're fucking human.

[@khosrowzare8301]

@@gabrielboorom6196 Mom: Wrong, you never specified it has to be a female "human"

[@gabrielboorom6196]

@@khosrowzare8301 Child: "I pray every day I was adopted."

[@Mitzoplick]

Do they really think that they can re-invent physical fitness?

[@Fairly-odd-kel]

Just found this channel and have been binging it, got to say I love it

[@heatherh3605]

“Legs that look like a pair of zeppelins forced into denim condoms…” I nearly passed my breakfast porridge through my nose from laughing so hard. BRILLIANT, Drinker, brilliant!! Also, the bit about a “simplistic art style that looks like it’s been drawn by a preschooler using Microsoft Paint” is spot-on. Excellent video as usual.

[@Morphfromx-men]

I laughed so fucking hard every body around me thought i was a maniac.

[@ShahjahanMasood]

Hahaha its fucking stupidly hilarious hahaha

[@TurnStyleGames]

I've seen it mentioned below...but it needs more mentioning: Zoe Quinn falsely accused an ex of harassment and this same 'industry' bullied him to the point that he committed suicide. Quality people. The finest.

[@MigIgg]

Holy shit that is messed up, this goes to show on how mentally retarded the so called ‘industry’ is

[@Dowlphin]

You are parroting the biases outrage from the other side of the coin. People don't bother to read the whole story or even if they do, they just choose to ignore what doesn't fit their agenda. Alec Holowka was an abuser, struggling with the psychological damage inflicted by his abusive father. There was both demons and good will on both sides, but when an abuser is homing in on you, then a troubled childhood is no excuse for letting it pass, especially not when you are co-workers and trying to accomplish something creative. Alec committed suicide not because he was bullied but because it pained him how much suffering his inner demons caused others and himself. The backlash was just a natural consequence of that. Alec also apparently was quite ignorant of lifestyles different than his, and he eventually learned what hardships other people are going through. Night in the Woods is an oustanding meta piece of art also because of this drama of life flowing into the product. I hold no grudge agains Alec or the rest of the crew. Everybody tried to handle a really shitty situation the best they could, and we should actually honor that sacrifice by learning from the game, because in the genre of video games it has a rarely seen and very important message. The whole situation even prompts philosophical ponderings about how greatness necessarily has to be fueled by suffering, and what the karmic balance sheet of that is. Maybe Alec would never have been known for outstanding musical score work if the pain of his childhood experiences hadn't driven him towards musical escapism. And then who knows whether NITW would even have happened in the valuable way it did. And last but not least, summarizing: Don't forget that they were all quirky artists on the project. - It's rock band split kind of drama. That one is full of drugs, violence and suicide but people don't lose their shit over it.

[@watchparty1]

I'm from the future. Unfortunately it didn't mark any change at all. It only gets worse.

[@codieomeallain6635]

More information on Pickett’s Charge; the attack was ordered originally by Colonel Robert Lee (I do not recognise the Confederacy or any ranks it bestowed so I will be using the ranks obtained in service of the U.S. Army) who passed it on to Major James Longstreet who in turn passed it to Captain George Pickett. Major Longstreet protested strongly against the attack and even against the Battle of Gettysburg itself, advising Colonel Lee the very first night that the Army of Virginia should break towards Washington and dig in between the Army of the Potomac and the capital to force them to attack entrenched positions or leave the capital at their mercy. Colonel Lee said that if the Federal army was still on the field the next day then he would order an attack to which Major Longstreet replied that if they were still there then it was because they wanted the Confederates to attack them which was the best reason not to. When ordered to organise Pickett’s Charge he told Colonel Lee that he had been a soldier amongst soldiers all his life and it was his opinion that no ten thousand soldiers who ever lived could take the Federal position and again advised to dig in between the enemy and Washington. He was again overruled and he dutifully organised the attack. When the time came he was so overcome with the knowledge that he was sending his men to slaughter that when Captain Pickett asked for the order to advance Major Longstreet could not bring himself to say the words and instead simply nodded and looked away in shame. The attack played out exactly as Major Longstreet predicted. Out of 12,500 Confederate soldiers almost 9,000 were killed, wounded, or captured. When the tattered remains of Captain Pickett’s division limped back to their lines Colonel Lee lamented his poor judgment and proclaimed it “all my fault”. Nearly 75% casualties on an attack that he was warned would go bad, in a battle that he was advised against fighting. It was to the great advantage of the Army of the Potomac and General Meade that they faced Colonel Lee those three days in July and not Major Longstreet.

[@shadowgattler]

me: "why does the drinker have tumblr fan art in his thumbnail?" *clicks video* "oh dear god"

[@SilverbackGorilla69]

It really is that bad..

[@RobotHau5]

honestly I kept seeing this picture but I literally thought it was just fan art ppl were mad at. lol.

[@janwitkowsky8787]

Y'know... I never made that connection before, with the whole new simplistic artstyles vs tumblr art. And the more I think about it... the more it fits and makes sense.

[@BeforeMoviesSucked]

(Insert Sam Neill's scream from Event Horizon that The Drinker always uses)

[@Victor-um9ce]

Well if you think about it maybe the staff has been taken over by tumblr users when you look at Zoe.

[@ZENMASTERME1]

@1:44 “The only thing worse than a fool, is a fool who thinks himself wise” ~Critical Drinker, 2019

[@julianmarco4185]

"Fools are so proud of being foolish"

[@thedrifter5531]

aren't amazon's meant to be constantly training and working out how the fuck would she be in the slightest bit out of shape like really how?

[@jedieclipse383]

this is actually a variant cover produced by Robin Eisenberg from Rooster Teeth, which is sad because they used to be an amazing production company.

[@joshuacrane1961]

"Zeppelins forced into denim condoms." You, sir, are a poet.

[@MicahDarkFantasy]

If I was the CEO of the comic industry, I’d fire EVERY single person because of how stupid they have become!

[@aeternusdoleo4531]

That sentiment is... quite strong among the comicsgate crowd. Gatekeep the gatekeepers...

[@mistahsusan2650]

trouble is that the whole mainstream of the industry are actively or passively going along with the woke crap. the people who didn't go with it have been blackballed and/or have gone off the plantation to do their own thing.

[@mikeylambda1322]

Congrats for the new 500k subs drinker! Cheers

[@endarasman]

If all daughters of Themiscyra shape like that, they’ll never been able to swing hammer and smashed those door pins in order to lock Steppenwolf inside the temple.

[@Ch4os4ever]

Saw Nerdrotic and HeelvsBabyface discussing this abomination and thought: "I hope the critical drinker has seen it!". And then you come next day with this gem! Brilliant!

[@justaguy105]

Actually Drinker, the "artist" for that picture said that she was asked to draw a picture that was inspired by Wonder Woman. Her normal "artwork" is supposedly drawing aliens who have normal everyday human bodies? Ummmm. So this picture is supposed to be a female alien, who has a 2020 mom bod, who cosplays as Wonder Woman. Ummmm... and DC chose this as one of the alternate covers of Wonder Woman 1984?? *Just fire 'em..fire 'em all!*

[@kevinintheusa8984]

Likely DC picked that picture just to poke fans in the eye and get word of mouth on the street. This constant "fans" don't matter is causing them to go broke.

[@pagatryx5451]

@@kevinintheusa8984 My theory is that the certain person who was in charge of choosing the cover is part of the SJW gang and wants to paint the fans as -ists and -phobes so by choosing such an image, she can make fans look bad when they get upset. Unfortunately, it's ridiculous and most people thinks it looks fucking stupid. So it didn't work very well.

[@animeangel1983]

@@pagatryx5451 He was, Paul Khouri and he got the axe for it in the DC layoffs. There was a tweet where he purposely CHOSE her cover because he KNEW it would piss every one off. This dropped just before the layoffs were announced so it was a final fuck you to the fans.

[@carybeweary7209]

@@animeangel1983 HAHAHAHA He's garbage,but I gotta admit that sounds like a pretty funny troll thing to do lol

[@Relugus]

Its variant art, By it's nature variant art is the editor saying to an artist, "just come up with something wild or just stream of consciousness".

[@ayaniz]

You are truly a breath of fresh air. Thanks for telling it like it is.

[@dr.kennethnoisewater26]

Excellent video. On point

[@snoochieboochies197]

“Excelsior!” -Excelsior Rest in Peace Stan. Its all over now.

[@Nolaaan]

Unless

[@dondoloparisi5041]

So, fat Wonder Woman is their latest stroke of genius? Well, not to say that a man cannot have "fun" with a woman that "has a bit more to hold on to", but I am pretty sure that I do not want to pay for and read a comic book about "Obesity Woman of uncertain Color" really.

[@theawkwardskeleton6608]

Not to mention the backstory of Wonder Woman’s Creators is an interesting story even they would like.

[@michaelbraxton137]

And manga kicking everybody ass

[@MitchM240]

“Legs that look like a pair of zeppelins forced into a denim condom” you sir are a gem.

[@MrYaco123]

Comics used to take me out of the mundane hole we're constantly living in. We all feel, at least once, that we're not going anywhere, that everything is pointless; so it was nice to see people with a point. From heroes willing to sacrifice their lives, to cosmic entities finding their meaning in the universe. But that's all gone now. Now comics are filled with tokenism and petty politics. Heroes that were capable of destroying planets, that reached the end of the physical universe are complaining about pronouns. Trump was literally made into a villain in a Marvel comic. I want my comics back.

[@darthrevan1281]

I, for one, still want Trump to be on the receiving end of a universe-shattering groin kick courtesy of one of the classic-style superheroes you mentioned.

[@MrYaco123]

@@darthrevan1281 That's because your life lacks meaning. Donald Trump is a temporary politician, and not even a bad one. Get over it and do something useful with your life. And I'am telling you this only because I have a little bit of respect for you for knowing what KotOR is.

[@hei7846]

Start reading Manga

[@TWRehab]

Comics then: With great power comes great responsibility. Comics now: You have white privilege and need to get educated on your unconscious bias now give everything you own to someone else.

[@jaden8811]

I just got into comics, and while experiencing the many great stories from the 60s-90s for the first time is great, it's sad knowing that there just isn't any creativity any more.

[@Firefox13A]

You never disappoint.