Why Do We Need Heroes?

So the recent announcement of I Am Not Starfire from DC got me thinking about heroes, comic books, and how we treat our modern myths and legends. And well, it doesn't look too good. The question now is, why do we even need heroes?

[@TheCriticalDrinker]

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[@LordLowe]

Your books lack a strong boring invincible female character BTW you know I’m totally messing with you dude

[@adrianchatman5734]

I'm reading Redemption, right now. Good stuff!

[@vepr5596]

If you don't lower your audio sound effects I'm going to go deaf man

[@bc-in5lq]

We're on black list and deception game in texas keep rocking brother.

[@mx_th_0111]

Hello

[@Paulafan5]

"Why doesn't Superman look like me?" asked no boy EVER.

[@goban2816]

ikr dc is too poor now.. i mean look at dem budget cuts, their animated movies make no money no wonder, they dont even put any budget in there.. theyre down way too bad, its helpless, especially this thing goin on with amber heard thing, fuck man, in the near future, im gonna see disney logos in dc movies

[@barretxiii27]

Neil Gaiman: "You don't make Superman 'relevant'. You make him inspiring!"

[@JohnNy13375]

I always thought “I want to look like Superman” so it inspired me to work out

[@solongsuicide9]

"Why isn't Alfred, that really old butler from Batman, gay?" asked no one, ever. I'm gay & I dgaf.

[@SM-qv2om]

@@solongsuicide9 exactly, I'm bi and I hate stuff like race bending and changing someone's sexuality for no reason. I don't even really care about representation but if you want to represent minorities then come up with something original. don't change someone that wasn't even a problem to begin with

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

No one would insert themselves into that character except the author.

[@genegene8488]

Not even food would willingly insert themselves into this "Blobfire".

[@Snakedude4life]

@@genegene8488 “Dumpsterfire”

[@jonbaxter2254]

Maybe a burger would insert into her, but via the mouth and followed by cheesy chips.

[@ronniejdio9411]

I can promise you peick grayson would and will insert himself into starfire daughter just cause

[@johnbeaumont1563]

Ouroboros looking for the begining...

[@ArsxnIV]

"A body positive Wonder Woman that strikes fear into the hearts of fast food buffets everywhere" God I love you, Drinker

[@majidqayyum9613]

Yea, since when "being fat" become "healthy"?

[@silashurd3597]

@@majidqayyum9613 it didn’t. It’s all the humpback whales trying to fit in

[@roguespartan2854]

@@majidqayyum9613 they don't know the difference between "being fat and obese" and "being THICC and curvy"

[@gitgud1555]

So im an artist and im gonna try my own take on this story

[@theintrovertedarcanist984]

@@gitgud1555 As long as it mocks the real thing, I’ll read it.

[@eeveeofalltrades4780]

Superheroes aren't supposed to be relatable, they're supposed to be inspiring

[@HTacianas]

Kinda half right. A hero should have struggle through the course of their story to show how they relate to us, but you are right in that they shouldn't be made to be so relatable that they become a parody of the audience. A fat, unenthusiastic narcissist is more of an insult to the people that the character is supposed to be representing than an inspiration. But seeing them overcome adversity and change for the better is where the audience can connect with the character.

[@adamshafeeq8685]

The only "relatable" a hero should have is their struggles and hardships that made them who they are as we know them

[@grandcanyon-fu9zt]

Anti heroes are more relatable

[@Abrothers12]

Both if possible

[@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904]

I'd say it's both. A good superhero is supposed to be relatable (which is why writers strive to make their superheroes more nuanced than not) and at the same time inspiring (by emboding the ideals that they represent).

[@mmorpger0558]

I didn't know Starfire and Penguin had a daughter.

[@ericrhodes5174]

She took more after her father LMAO

[@spacedinosaur8733]

@@ericrhodes5174 and she's a dead shot with her umbrella gun 😉

[@flymecourageous6313]

Underrated comment

[@Crazozourus]

I think it's not Penguin, it's Wario.

[@redjirachi1]

Nekron did nothing wrong

[@AnotherCoyote]

"Once you accept everything there's no need to strive for anything." .... Woah.

[@TheScorpionStrike]

Almost like the Drinker is an author, eh? :)

[@cw3le]

And they say alcohol is bad for your brain. Look at how it turned our Drinker into motha-fokin philosopher and motivator. :)

[@DPROKimchy]

Sooo... If you're not sexist and racist ... somehow you give up your dreams and hopes? Zero sum game is the only way? Getting on top of the pile over a ton of corpses? Exploatation? And why would acceptance of silly and pathetic be bad? Because acceptance, will somehow not make us tough? I see empathy triggers some.

[@rebelg]

Without taking away anything from Drinker, I wholeheartedly recommend listening to Jordan Peterson. He has the same take on these problem, but at a more fundamental level. I love how these two voices complement each other.

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

@@DPROKimchy It seems I need to spell this out for you. Fine. Its about the extremes. He talks about how accepting everything is just as bad as accepting nothing. That accepting the *wrong* things can cause harm. That, unlike how today's PC culture sees it, acceptance is *not* always a good thing, and you should also consider *what* you want to accept.

[@jameslyons6655]

I asked my local comic book shop owner how many books he was selling on average from these “SJW” titles. He said “Single digits at best”. I think the comics business forgot it’s a business.

[@davidlacoste]

When i look at the sales numbers, i don't understand how Marvel even pays its personnel.

[@ASoberBear]

As a car salesmen for 5 years same with hybrids and electric. We would sell maybe 1 every 2 months and we had 200 plus cars on lot at any given time.

[@pierce7992]

you mean that are not from those titles

[@gigajerk6953]

I wish comic shops would start curating their own content and stop buying crap. I seldom buy anything from them. Comics are too expensive considering that there's like an 80% risk it's just gonna be filled with the agenda

[@looinrims]

He hasn’t gone bankrupt?

[@abhisardahiya9156]

"When you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything" Jesus I could wheep for hours at how good these words are. No wonder the drinker is as successful an author as he is. This line makes me recontextualise all my struggles and failures and reminds me why I've been fighting and striving for something better. He's articulated something that I've known to be true deep down, but never found the words for. Thank you.

[@joelolukaiyeja6095]

I couldn't agree more

[@silentoccasion4359]

He's an author? What are some of his works?

[@ajsepti5827]

@@silentoccasion4359 the ryan drake series. He also wrote something with james patterson i think

[@ChristianSteinheimer]

"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything" - the Drinker, 2020

[@ronlandis588]

nails it!

[@michaeldreibelbis9529]

Kind of like “If everyone is a super hero... then no one is...” Only a true villain could think like that... I mean... what kind of person would try to tear down those meant to give us hope, to shine a light upon a better way? Besides JJ Abrams... Kathleen Kennedy and Chris Chinballs....

[@barretxiii27]

"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything." - The Wise Man, Sucker Punch (2011)

[@1dirkmanchest]

@@barretxiii27 Harder than you think is a beautiful thing. - Chuck D, Public Enemy

[@MrSkeltal268]

Postmodernism

[@Zack-xv2yc]

"Human beings are strong, because we have the ability to change ourselves." -Saitama

[@parappa5002]

Nice quote 👏👏👏👏

[@Bobba8590]

Saitama spits fire all the time. "I'm hungry. Fancy some udon?" is one of my favourites.

[@Bobba8590]

@Tyler Dripden IT IS

[@bruhman3406]

"Here have some banana." - Saitama

[@WLTR-]

@@bruhman3406 yeah the second season Sucks.

[@matthewbell5142]

"Because once you accept everything, then there's no need to strive for anything" That is the one of the most profound pieces of wisdom I have ever heard.

[@EricSmith-gx7lu]

The Drinker's message is more inspiring than the comic book heroes we have now. Well done.

[@elizabethperry2622]

I love how he frames it as well. Gives a very basic premise and yeah, that actually could be promising, there’s a lot to explore there. Then shows the fail of an execution and, “Ok, we need to talk.”

[@skoot2488]

Looks like starfire had an affair with the Penguin

[@joethestrat]

Damn, nailed it bro lmao.

[@Atreus21]

ew ew ew ew EW.

[@BrunoSantos-jp1lv]

Starfires sister

[@hemidas]

😵🤢🤮

[@ten4054]

when the stolen comment is sus!

[@spardaprowess3277]

Penguin is obviously the father.

[@aviadd843]

How has this comment not exploded.

[@Venom-eq1vj]

Amazing.

[@samblack5313]

Fucken hell, mate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SergeyPupkoMusic]

Or an orca... I mean... Shoe does look like she's atl least 50% whale.

[@SergeyPRKL]

@@SergeyPupkoMusic Could be the Shark from THE Suicide Squad though...

[@BeskarDevil]

This is an incredible video. Heroes exist so we can build ourselves up to their ideals. You’re not supposed to see yourself as exactly like a hero, you’re supposed to see them and strive to become stronger, smarter, faster, more valorant and honorable.

[@gl1zzy468]

*valorous

[@sarahb.7175]

This reminds me of one thing I learned as an English major. I felt like a pariah at my college because my classmates were reading and writing and gushing over "experimental" or "literary" fiction that I found boring, confusing, or gimmicky; meanwhile, I loved reading and writing mysteries, thrillers, sci-fi--anything with an exciting plot. My story submissions to our lit journal were rejected time and again, our author visits rarely featured writers of my type, and I sometimes felt like everyone else saw genre fiction as inferior. One day, we were discussing Beowulf in class, and I reflected on the oldest surviving stories in various cultures: Beowulf, the Odyssey, Gilgamesh, etc., stories that were definitely not "literary," but very plot driven and exciting. Perhaps there was literary fiction in ancient Greece or Mesopotamia. But the stories that survived hundreds, even THOUSANDS, of years, that people committed to memory, that people still recognize today, are stories of epic adventures, larger-than-life villains, and courageous heroes beating unimaginable odds. I think that says something about the importance of heroes.

[@mike0a0whogivesacrap]

I think there’s a false dichotomy between popular fiction and literary fiction. One piece of literature CAN be both. I would say the epics you mentioned are a good example of that. Good literature should appeal to humanity broadly. I suppose bad fiction can do that too, but in a way that is dishonest or shallow and, therefore, transitory. P.S. I was an English major too. Studied at a private Christian uni, where I wasn’t amongst a sea of work nonsense (called Grove City College in western PA). I now teach English at high school in my hometown of Roswell, NM.

[@Dusios]

"I think novelists come in two types, and that includes the sort of fledgling novelist I was by 1970. Those who are bound for the more literary or “serious” side of the job examine every possible subject in light of this question: What would writing this sort of story mean to me? Those whose destiny (or ka, if you like) is to include the writing of popular novels are apt to ask a very different one: What would writing this sort of story mean to others? The “serious” novelist is looking for answers and keys to the self; the “popular” novelist is looking for an audience." - Stephen King I've never had a lot of patience for "serious" literature, or experimental literature, or, God forbid, existential literature. At the end of the day, I may just not be smart enough. That's fine by me. The stories that have always gripped me are the ones that are character driven, especially the ones with characters to, for some reason, admire. I love Star Trek because it holds up an ideal to strive toward. Same with Luke Skywalker, and Superman, and Spider-Man, and countless others. The world is hard enough. I'd rather enjoy what I'm reading.

[@michellechouinard4958]

When I was an English Writing major, my teacher actually said the words, "Literary fiction isn't supposed to be entertaining." She and the rest of the class had just laughed at me because I told them I enjoyed Twilight (book, not movie). After she made that statement, I decided she was an idiot and I'd do all my homework but not take to heart any of her advice. Because who in their right mind would write or read stories that weren't any fun?

[@alcerdemon9768]

If my mom was Starfire and my father was Nightwing, I would be pissed if I looked like her too

[@DrakeKnight99]

I've wrote fanfics better than this

[@DaDitka]

Totally agree. I would be feeling like Danny DeVito's character in the movie Twins. "I sure got the wrong end of the genetic here, didn't I???"

[@designanddirection]

The liberal left are the destroyers of dreams. Mean spirited, envious, low expectation w_nkers who want to re-write history as white patriarchal oppression and in their rush for “diversity and inclusion” can’t provide inspiration because they worship desperation.

[@alcerdemon9768]

@@designanddirection Wow, calm down there dude. We’re talking about the lesbian edgy daughter of fictional alien orange woman. You don’t need to bring your radical political points of view here

[@stormisuedonym4599]

@@alcerdemon9768 Are you completely unfamiliar with the current state of leftist politics and comics? I mean, it looks like you are, because you're calling someone radical for describing them as they are, but... This lesbian edgy daughter came about _because_ of progressive ideology.

[@hbleblanc205]

"Once you accept everything, there is no need to strive for anything." Put that on a freaking wall!

[@karazor-el6085]

I think Syndrome from THE INCREDIBLES had it when he boasted about developing tech to give powers to everyone... "And when I’m old and I’ve had my fun, I’ll sell my inventions so that everyone can be superheroes. Everyone can be a super! And when everyone’s super...NO ONE WILL BE."

[@H.U.R.]

i need to rethink my life

[@esdeathsenpai5128]

Quote of the century right there.

[@DaDitka]

Agreed. One of the best quotes I have heard.

[@hbleblanc205]

@V. V just use "the Critical Drinker" I guess. Anyway, that's all I've got time for today, *go away now.*

[@Boi69xx]

“Once you accept everything, there’s no need to strive for anything.” That’s wisdom right there

[@QodeMusic]

"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything." Damn, this one hits hard.

[@ProboscusMonke]

A good quote from The Incredibles of all places "When everybody is Super" "Nobody is"

[@kyleclawson8130]

Incredibles had a lot of good quotes. Another is: "they always tell you to be true to yourself but never what part of yourself to be true to." Just beautiful and poignant in an age that decries any attempt to examine what it means to "be yourself."

[@scianna13]

I believe the word they use is special, which adds another layer, for me anyway, to the depth of that line.

[@xShadowChrisx]

@@scianna13 No syndrome says "When everyone is super no one will be". You're thinking about when Helen and Dash are chatting in the car about being special, and Helen giving the example of bad parenting saying "Everyone is special Dash" to which Dash correctly points out "Which is another way of saying no one is" The genius is in having Dash subtly emphasize and point out the villians point before we even get to him lol.

[@ryankornacki9918]

The worst part about it all was that Syndrome was making everyone super by raising the common human to super hero standards, making nobody super since everyone could do what superhero’s could do. These new writers seem hell bent on dragging our heroes down to our level, making it so that there are no heroes because no one could ever be heroic, it’s achieving the same status quo of a sorts but the bar is so much lower since the old heroic standard of being is now unreachable, that’s almost worse if you think about it.

[@j.j.4708]

I'd take any amount of people being Super over nobody being Super

[@redacted8567]

Sir, you are wrong. I was inspired and motivated by that short goth girl to read better comics.

[@bluedaylight1243]

This is so underrated oml 😭😭😭

[@hawkfang]

ngl knowing her origins make me loses hope on everything that are western related

[@dedrik1461]

This sent me rolling 😂

[@fancycat1893]

Fr she inspired me to not be fat anymore, what a hero

[@soyalguienqueestamuyaburri8396]

@@fancycat1893 xd (good for you)

[@egarza0905]

By the end of this video, I had tears in my eyes and wanted to give you a standing ovation man. My 68yr old father felt the same way too. The way you articulated everything about what heros represent was right on the head. I've have been going to the movies with my family since I was little girl and I'm almost 40 now. Going to the movies was an escape from reality for me. I grew up with anxiety and depression. For those 2hrs, I was absorbed into whatever was happening and forgot about the cold cruel world. If I truly could go on epic adventures to Mordor or join starfleet, I would! I know these aren't real but if you told me I had a chance, then I would push myself to make my dreams happen. Even now, I'm tired of working in corporate America and I want to purse a career in writing. I've gotten into writing the past year as a self taught writer and I want this to take off. I'm looking now into how to make this happen. It may take some time but I'm willing to see where this newfound hobby takes me because I love it. I will not accept everything for what it is and because of this, I will strive to do better for myself. Thank you for this video, I raise a toast to you!

[@greg403]

I Believe in you❤

[@sparaxisblanc2473]

"They represent something fundamentally good about us, despite our mistakes..." Considering how cynical I've become over the last few years, I really needed to hear this, especially as a discouraged author/artist.

[@davefred]

"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything."

[@m4tol]

The Drinker is a goddamn genius, always on point and full of wisdom. He certainly has some ancient druids in his bloodline.

[@jonbaxter2254]

When everyone's super, no-one will be...

[@Mikedot]

This is so quotable.

[@clearsmashdrop5829]

I wish there was a Thumbs Up ^ 2 button.

[@crisananca313]

@@clearsmashdrop5829 I wish there was an applause button

[@maxwellharris1434]

Me, wiping away a single tear: “I will, Drinker. I will go away now.”

[@armintor2826]

Bye bye 👋

[@theamericanbusinessman3953]

Dude lol I said about the same thing.

[@cjhepburn7406]

U make that sound real final...do I need to call the Samaritins?

[@KalonOrdona2]

Don't be silly my dudes. I interpret OP saying "I will go forth indeed, honored sage, inspired by your words."

[@BigShepp1432]

@@KalonOrdona2 You have not yet received the credit you deserve for these words. ONE THUMBS UP FOR YOU, FOR I AM NOT ABLE TO GIVE TWO!

[@blackfreud9048]

“A unflattering reflection of their failings…..” Nailed it!

[@156892]

The problem I have with this, on a surface level, since I am a normie.... is that being fat, is NOT healthy, while I'd agree with the sentiment that fat people should not be looked down on or treated differently, advertising having bad health as part of the norm, and straight up encouraging young'ns to STAY unhealthy is just not okay objectively. Subjectively, superheroes fight for a living... unless being fat and having a lot of fat is a requirement for exercising their duties/superpowers, otherwise being fat is NOT a good example of a hero. If anything... getting healthy, training yourself to be fit and able to help others... would be a very basic but much more acceptable superhero-origin story, if simply because it'd make a lot of sense, and stay coherent while telling it.

[@Mr_Mistah]

Based

[@telophasemusic]

I agree

[@ghost3d474]

That’s exactly why this comic is not gonna sell

[@tyrfree5733]

And if all of these companies are trying to strive for more realism, then they would understand that for anyone to be a highly functional human being, you would have to be in some sort of decent or good physical condition. I don't think every superhero needs muscles, but there's a reason why most superheroes are not fat. It's just not realistic. If you give children a hero that is obese, then these same children will find out the hard way that you cannot be obese and be highly functional in real life when it comes to physical activities. Like running and playing and all of that. It was part of the reason why heroes would push good health and working out and vitamins. Sure there was some capitalism in place with those ads, but it wasn't a bad message so it was a good trade off.

[@dankrigby5621]

@@tyrfree5733 no, heroes aren't realistic in any way. They have been buff since basically forever since that is what they represent. They represent being more than ordinary people. Being that buff is no advantage for anything except for weight-lifting, which is not really an advantage when it comes to fighting. If you look at athletic people they are muscular und skinny, but not even a fraction as muscular as most superheroes are. Really buff people just seem mighty and strong, and this can also be observed when looking at ancient depiction of gods (when they didn't even have these buff people in rl like we have today with steroids and such). People saw these buff figures and figured themselves that people that look so mighty HAVE to be really strong and capable and we haven't moved on from that until today. We connect certain traits with being really buff, it's not rooted in reality, it has been like that for ages.

[@sosigsunkcrunkywunk7224]

"Reimagining Bruce Wayne as a Asian American teenager with his gay butler Alfred" Excuse me hwat

[@FunSizeSpamberguesa]

Originality is dead. There's a reason there are so few truly original movies -- seems like anymore everything's a sequel, prequel, remake, or adaptation of an existing work, and comics are no exception. You know a writer is creatively bankrupt when they "re-imagine" some character for the fifteenth time instead of making their own.

[@sosigsunkcrunkywunk7224]

Although I can agree with some of your points I can't fully agree that originality is dead. Yes there has been multiple reboots for many superheroes but there have good Reimaginings (although i can't remember them off the top of my head sorry.) This is all my opinion but I feel that there are also some good new superheroes that aren't popular but still original. I would use anime as a example but that's not what we're talking about. So yeah I don't think originality is dead just yet. (sorry if this shit is hard to read, English isn't fully my main language)

[@sosigsunkcrunkywunk7224]

@Zardox I'm Chinese lmao

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

@@FunSizeSpamberguesa but Japan is still creating orignal ideas. It's just modern American company's dont want to take risks

[@MahouShoujo-Studios]

@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 Japan is running out of ideas as well. They're rebooting A LOT of their old shows and are (usually) following played out tropes.

[@izanagi4108]

Why is a drunk man making a better argument than all my literature teachers

[@RedRaikou]

Because your literacy teachers have a list of things to teach you and have the system, teachers union and parents holding them down. Either way It doesn't matter what you learn, it doesn't have to be actually useful or even interesting, it only matters that you get a good grade at the end of the year, than you may be a total idiot but what matters is that you have your certificate of completion.

[@magosexploratoradeon6409]

Because Teachers most of the time have their hands tied on specific plans and schedules regardless if it's actually doing anything productive in your development or not. Nothing matters except for a passing grade.

[@nicholas3585]

Because he's speaking the obvious instead of repeating what he was brainwashed to think.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Because the drunk guy is using his brain. While pickled, his brain still produces better arguments than a liberal's indoctrination can tolerate.

[@derricgreene]

Because he's Scottish

[@romanperone1237]

Damn Drinker, got me tearing up over here with a mf speech on what it means to strive to be something more. Whether intentionally or not this is probably your most inspirational video ever.

[@shayliakara]

I am a 3D artist and I can promise you that no one has ever asked me to make a hero look like that... ever. There is no commission for that kind of art. No artist will make it, except her. Unless, perhaps, it is for a very specific art style. But so far, I have not seen anyone ask.

[@MugenCannon97]

Starfire's daughter looks nothing like her. Hell, the same people who made this would arguably be up in arms about her being white instead of orange like her mother.

[@bartholemeowthefirst]

Yeah, that something i noticed too. But, i think the design is deliberate. No to invoke a body positive message, but to show the consequences of neglectful parents whose shadow is large. She looks nothing like either of her parents, with the exception of her eyes and hair, and looms like she was raised by herself. CD makes some good points, but im willing ro give this one a shot, if only to see the dynamic between mother and daughter.

[@alivesalad4064]

Is this... is this... WHITEWASHING??????

[@bartholemeowthefirst]

@Jay Toledo True, but characters based off of the author aren't always bad.

[@awkwardboi1328]

@@bartholemeowthefirst Maybe, but this doesn't look like it'll be a good character study about the consequences of having a famous mother whose shadow eclipses her daughters achievements. Rather it looks like a fan fiction about a woman who hates the idea of someone else being more popular than her and want to trash their history

[@bartholemeowthefirst]

@@awkwardboi1328 Aye, but looks can be deceiving. But, you may be right as well.

[@theodoreroosevelt6439]

I'd, personally, like to see Starfire as a black man, Hulk as a Hispanic trans woman and Wolverine as a desk lamp. They join forces to fight the dark forces of evil but then the dark forces of evil get offended and they have to apologize.

[@VainerCactus0]

That might work as a satire and commentary on modern "entertainment." You have to have an SJW preaching at the start about how the original versions of the heroes are oppressive and why they needed to be replaced.

[@questionmark521]

Lol Love to see that

[@sunessetham627]

a desk lamp sure would do great against dark forces

[@clown454]

They can't fight the "dark forces" of evil, that's racist

[@OklahomaBoomer]

If Steven Universe was a KZbin comment…

[@carsondemeter5657]

This video is truly a masterpiece of critical analysis. I'm in my last year of university throughout which I've refined my practice as a writer. In doing so, I've learned to recognize and appreciate the unparalleled craftsmanship and sheer talent displayed in these videos. Well done, sir.

[@briskettaco]

Damn, I don’t know how I missed this video but this is one of your best ever.

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

“No one wants to look up to you anymore, Superman. They don’t want to strain their necks.” -Lex Luthor, Marvel/DC: After Hours

[@OutlawDin0]

All I was thinking of while watching this incredible video, was that exact quote.

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

@@OutlawDin0 RandomGuy taught me that good writing is _everything._ In a world where movie studios spend hundreds of millions on CGI blockbusters, some of the most compelling superhero videos around are just a guy puppeting action figures in front of a webcam.

[@OutlawDin0]

@@DrFranklynAnderson They'll never get it. Now pardon me while I go reread Kingdom Come.

[@martinportelance138]

Hey, that's actually a great line...

[@ExteriorsDoneRight]

Looked up the full quote: Lex: Because the Marvel Universe has corrupted everything you stand for, all in the name of high drama. Think about it, Kal-El! Your job is to be an inspiration for people. Someone they can look up to, someone they can aspire to be like. In steadfastness, in character, in ideals, and what did Marvel offer? They said "Don't worry, you don't have to aspire to anyone in our books. You just have to relate to them." And now we have an entire culture that thinks that who they are is just fine, and how dare anyone suggest that they could improve themselves! Why aspire to be Superman when it's so much easier to relate to Spider-Man? No one wants to look up to you anymore, Superman. They don't want to strain their necks. Instead, they look straight ahead at the compromised heroes in front of them and say, "That'll do just fine." Don't you see? We have the power to put it all back the way it was! The way it should be! You can still be the inspiration you once were! You can still make a difference. Isn't that why you became a hero in the first place? Superman: I also became a hero to stand for certain principles. And this thing you're suggesting, for better or worse it would be a lie. And of all the things I stand for, truth always comes first.

[@imblue434]

And then they are wondering why people are buying mangas

[@peika8324]

Ohhh shot fire.

[@Mystic_Apollo]

Just letting ya know, ya cant hide the truth behind your pfp Mari Setogaya

[@GFHCyan]

@Some Guy sauce? *is bagoong a sauce?*

[@first-law-fantasyabercromb7308]

japanese media is far superiour at this point, be it manga, anime or games.........why? because japan doesnt even know how to spell woke

[@ras3996]

Also correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't manga cheaper to produce than western comics? Comics use that shiny paper thing while manga mostly use paper.

[@GUNROCKS1990]

Very good speech about heros

[@TheStempl]

I am not a comic fan, but this has become one of my goto videos, when I am unsure or lack the motivation to hit the gym an a certain day.

[@coolguy082]

“I wish the Hulk was as weak and unhealthy as me!” “I wish He-Man stayed in his room for 12 hours a day like me!” “I wish Tony Stark was as smart as me, even though I’m pretty dumb!”

[@dog7146]

I would like to captain america was coward as me

[@georgeb5262]

Yep. It's good for a hero to have flaws, but they need to be an idol after all.

[@jockeyfield1954]

@@dog7146 this reminds me of how even before the serum, cap was still as good a hero as any he signed up for the military, well aware he would probably die, while as a skinny and weak boy even the og comics had this same character trait, comics that were made back in the 40s still hold up to this day unlike other character traits that were changed as time went on (like how the og spider-man was a douche who wanted to get back at the world with his powers)

[@shivamnetam6543]

"I wish Batman is a pussy just like me" It would be fun and realistic right...

[@patrickhoneyman9019]

@@jockeyfield1954 In the first Spiderman film Peter is a douchebag once he realises how his powers benefit him until he loses a close family member due to that attitude. He then realises that the words he heard before weren't just the ramblings of an old man but important in shaping who he would become. I love the idea that the original Spiderman films are our generation's Superman. I know Parker has been rebooted more regularly than Kent was but I'm going to watch the original Spiderman films again this week to remind myself why they are still great (thanks NWH for helping with setting this in motion).

[@conorhadfield3415]

“Do not pray for easy lives, pray to be stronger men”

[@waltercomunello121]

this comment is so underrated. Please pretend I've given 20 likes instead of just 1.

[@obiuss]

@@waltercomunello121 this. so much this. underratet as fuck. 20 likes from me as well.

[@GreyDeathVaccine]

C'mon people, lets elevate this (OP) comment!

[@jbktpl1245]

Abe Lincoln?

[@knox7945]

@@jbktpl1245 JFK

[@kalir5522]

"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything." What a great line!

[@Mysticmegster1]

"Once you accept everything then there s no need to strive for anything." Well said!

[@faceless_lurker]

"I don't feel good about myself, so no one else is allowed to feel good either."

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Never understood why misery loved company so much. I don't. I just want music and I'm as happy as a lark.

[@aksimtaioreunin5385]

Modern age in a nutshell

[@Cookieofdoom]

Sounds like a super villain

[@haizuru1]

The "virtue" of misery. (Eye roll)

[@faceless_lurker]

"hard work" and "personal responsibility" are 4-letter words to these people.

[@punchtothegut]

my thing is, yea, if she were REALLY starfire's daughter and part tamaranian, she'd have more orange skin. BUT the real thing is, i dont get why she looks like a pudgy raven. and yea, she looks more like the author if anything

[@mysterynerd3591]

The secret Is raven and starfire came out as lesbians to eachother and now that's the child of them That why it looks like raven

[@piapie928]

@@mysterynerd3591 "it"

[@mysterynerd3591]

@@piapie928 I don't know the name of the daughter that's why I said it

[@piapie928]

Mystery nerd ohhh no problem man, i just thought it was funny :]

[@mysterynerd3591]

@@piapie928 oh thank god, I thought you were getting annoyed that I said it

[@JohnScott-uz9sp]

"once you accept everything, there is no need to strive for anything"

[@Aussie_Core]

Heroes, especially ancient myth heroes were a thing to make people strive to be a better person, and a symbol of hope in some cases. They were also someone to look up to and attempt to be as good as them.

[@almuhaaajir]

We're witnessing the rapid decline of literature, art, politics and IQ.

[@finethehuman1821]

The voice of stupidity grows louder. And it's being listened to. We need to do something

[@almuhaaajir]

@@finethehuman1821 it used to be: the law does not protect stupid people. Now it's stupid people who control the law.

[@FloraJoannaK]

Nah, we're just being lazy, and kind of scared of being that Nietzschean creative type. Do nothing, say nothing, be nothing, and nobody will criticize.

[@waltercomunello121]

@@finethehuman1821 that's because at some point in history the concept of "free speech" has been dramatically and hugely misunderstood and misapplied. As I usually say, everybody is free to say anything they want, but some people should just shut the fuck up.

[@Crimson34533]

Bioleninism...

[@Wisekuma]

"What is her superpower?" "Eating and bitching at people." "SOLD!"

[@fattiger6957]

She has super twitter powers. She can cancel 20 people in a minute.

[@c-loslando8420]

When she REEEEEE's it calls the soy based males to white knight for her.

[@fdrisgreat]

Rioting and burning down blue cities is her superpower.

[@Desmont123]

Also: Body Odor

[@barrybadranath]

@@Desmont123 haahahaha! You got me with that one.

[@dustantraver6829]

Dude this was amazingly well written, without satire and true to form, well done Drinker, well done!

[@pobretomate3090]

Never thought a drinker video would simultaneously make me want to hit the gym the hardest I ever have in my life and bring me to tears 🥲

[@RealCoolstriker64]

I still refuse to believe that “safe space” and “snowflake” were anything other than ironic.

[@RealCoolstriker64]

My brain just won’t let me

[@arbiter204]

Me either man

[@fge00]

Mark my words, they will be the greatest superheroes of our day

[@arbiter204]

@@fge00 very funny

[@jockeyfield1954]

snowflake sounds like the name of a kind hearted snow based hero girl who was created back in 90s

[@adm102401]

Raven: Exists DC: Let's make a goth daughter for Starfire!

[@nathanieltrunzo7230]

I saw the thumbnail and thought it was a comic where raven was obese.

[@tisf0]

If they made her Raven's daughter it wouldn't be subversive enough

[@Necron1999]

That was my immediate confusion after becoming aware of this. I was like: “Who put Raven in a pneumatic press?”

[@DarkDodgers]

Heck, They could have done Blackfire if they really wanted

[@elephantpowerproductions]

Maybe if they had the daughter be more of a Raven fangirl similar to how Miles Morales liked his uncle Aaron, it would make more sense. But nah! That takes thought and effort with the intent to tell a truly interesting story

[@aworldmadeofcardboard3692]

Your description of what a hero is incredible, accurate and your analysis is perfect... You are a HERO!

[@56Tyskie]

Your speech at the end was just beautiful.

[@OhHeckNono]

"by the new york times bestselling author" now that explains a lot.

[@engelsseele2]

It's been proven that NYT best sellers now a days is just pay to get in lol.

[@kingvinoda3896]

Every. Time.

[@J4m35ful]

New York Times bestseller is one of the most worthless titles on this planet.

[@meris8486]

It's not hard to be a New York Times best selling author it seems

[@foreverd4nk796]

@Stix N' Stones Hey, do you still like my profile pic?

[@michaelgeiger4043]

I'm a 63 year old male, having had a 40+ year career in the entertainment industry here in Los Angeles. This video made me weep real tears...

[@hiiambarney4489]

As you should. I could not imagine how heartbreaking it must've been to work hard to push things to the screen and speakers at the time to only see it wither away, disregarded and burned at the hands of individuals who don't know hard work, pain, suffering at any rate. Grown up into an age of comfort and peace, they want even more. They don't want to accept that living a healthy and fulfilling life takes this work and takes that dedication... To do things you don't want to but do it anyways, because they are the best thing for you, your friends and family. To not touch that donut and binge eat the entire package in one sitting while writing a tumblr post on the oppression of fat women and how the world needs to accept them, as unlikable and rotten as they are, instead of working hard to become what they once wanted to be. I have much respect for you sir. I hope you and your family is doing well in these trying times. Thanks for sharing your side of the medal.

[@thdn8127]

This woke garbage will pass. Avid comic fan and pro Ya boi Zack complained in a video that he could not remember the last Iron man comic he read after turning the last page. Narcissistic mediocrity only appeals to the tiny circle it represents then will fade quickly. Quality can be lost, but will live again if it is preserved. I for one am looking forward to ordering some Cross Gen comics that I was too broke to buy when the company was around.

[@hillaryclinton2415]

That's racist or something

[@arkhambricksskylar3808]

What some people have done to our heroes is truly saddening. But on a different note, what have been some of the things you've worked on?

[@michaelgeiger4043]

@@arkhambricksskylar3808 vocalist/musician on hundreds of major motion picture feature films, video games, tv, etc. I’m a session singer and voice actor.

[@channelmachinebroke9638]

"once you accept everything then there is no need to strive for anything" Damn good quote

[@donaldtimpson4320]

Beautiful speech at the end.

[@GoblinKnightLeo]

Once you accept anything, the only enemy you have is people with standards.

[@MassiveKreutz]

That's an even better quote!

[@hokodo]

Underrated and succinct comment.

[@philipwebb960]

Yeah, the way I heard it was, "If you don't stand for something, you'll stand for anything."

[@RoosterDog0712]

Professionals have standards

[@liamhogan4369]

Well said. If nothing really matters, then those that hold something matters are wrong ... and probably dangerous.

[@OriginalGazGoose]

"Do not pray for easy lives gentlemen. Pray to be stronger men." Edit: just fixed an error with the quote

[@furry_aids4946]

Just the storm dick

[@spacebat3657]

SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS BREAKING IN

[@dir-gk]

@@furry_aids4946 sit dooowwnnn

[@anakiap.w1673]

**ZOMBIES NOISES**

[@barretxiii27]

reminds me of a bit from "Uma Musume" (Pretty Derby), a cute sports anime about horse racing, but the horses are horse GIRLS (basically normal girls, but they have horse ears and tails, as well as exceptionally strong legs and stamina). The girls of the protagonist team decide to pray for success in their impending races. Then their coach tells them that the proper way to pray isn't to just wish for things to happen in your favor, but to basically promise to god and yourself that you'll DO whatever it is you want to accomplish. It ties well into the main theme of not having things made easy, but to constantly push yourself to be better than you were, while also inspiring and pushing others to do the same.

[@markdavis8532]

Yet another fantastic speech by The Drinker! As inspiring and excellently articulated as anything I've ever heard. He is such an exceptional thinker. Always inspiring and entertaining.

[@wonderings4100]

This was actually.. a really good speech. Well done

[@afro117icarus5]

I’m mixed race, and my personal hero is Miles Morales. That’s not because he looks like me, it’s because he’s everything a hero should be to me, Peter Parker is too and so is Barry Allen. and that’s okay because it’s not about how they look, it’s their hardships and how they overcome them

[@harrambou9468]

Idk about Barry Allen, myself, but I agree 👌

[@kittyykatie]

I am also mixed but we don't need stuff like whatever this person self inserted lol

[@openthinker6562]

I think we mixed-race people understand this so much more, because we know that skin color is only surface level. What truly matters are your beliefs, your mindsets, your actions.

[@kingkilla777]

@@harrambou9468 depends on the version of barry allen

[@amoghketkar2559]

but..what about Cherry boi?

[@davidwells9982]

"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything." -The Critical Drinker, 2020

[@FlyingNova223]

A Philosopher of the modern era

[@general_merten]

if you tolerate everything , you are not tolerant anymore. Because to be to tolerant means to accept bullshit but if nothing (like this comic) is not considers bs anymore then noone ins tolerant. and u cant live in a world like that.

[@nutsuloid1887]

fucking fantastic line

[@faischka]

Yes but there's a difference between striving to be 7ft tall buff guy or just somebody who's incredibly brave and clever. You can try to actually overcome yourself and train your brain but there's no way for you to become much taller.

[@nutsuloid1887]

@@faischka what he's saying is that you should be striving to better yourself in the ways that you can. you cant become 7ft. that doesnt mean you shouldnt try to change what you can. dont make excuses for being lazy.

[@matthewlennhardt8408]

That was one of the most powerful things I've ever had the pleasure to listen to. Accurate and heartfelt. Good work, my friend

[@Sultschiem]

I don't think having Starfire's daughter be overweight and depressed as a result of living in her mother's shadow is a bad concept for a young adult storyline as that is somewhat relatable: Children often try to go the opposite direction of their parents.... Starfire is always cheerful and beautiful, so it makes sense that her daughter might have inferiority complexes based on that and all kind of issues. But chances are, this will not be the basis of growth and good character development as she creates her own identity, instead these woke characters end up being played as "Perfect from the start" and they just have to lecture everyone into accepting her, rather than growing.

[@WhiteManOnCampus]

Yep. She remains hateful, abuses her mother, and at the end she discovers she was awesome all along. Now she has powers like Starfire and can go out hurting others.

[@user-ff6dl9zr7u]

@@WhiteManOnCampus Well,that sucks. Because it doesn't work in real life.

[@NathanCassidy721]

Having actually read that comic (out of morbid curiosity), Mandy is the most selfish, disgusting, self-absorbed narcissist I ever seen. A major plot point in the book is she cusses out her girl crush because, I kid you not, she took a selfie with the Teen Titans and posted it on social media. It’s a good premise with a fantastic manga artist involved completely wasted by a writer who is a vindictive Jim Sterling cosplayer.

[@oscarwalet1814]

"If you accept everything, then you don't strive for anything." That is so unbelievably true.

[@krasserTerror]

This would open up the career path to become a drinking youtube film critic. Wait a minute...

[@bartek15011]

Yup that's the socialism in the nutshell.

[@jbaketkd]

And this is why i tell people "i thrive on doubt"

[@genesisbustamante-durian]

Buddhism.

[@patricksmith8906]

@@krasserTerror #SuperSoyan

[@nurse0857]

When everyone is super, no one will be.

[@a_man_of_clay4080]

Who would have known that syndrome would be right...

[@doclouis4236]

Spider Island in a nutshell.

[@Nickle_King]

Hell. This isn't even that. This is if Syndrome made a virus that took powers away, made everybody drunk with a desire to binge eat, and put us all into big, comfy blankets. You know. Sheep.

[@moistmeathateroffurries8621]

@@Nickle_King nick you sound like a redditor and that's a terrible crime I'm afraid I'm gonna have to put you down

[@bemotivated8443]

At the rate the Marvel and DC comics are going manga is going to take over in no time and if they continue doing as they are I don’t think I’m gonna have a problem with that

[@cgill4269]

Da fak man!! All you needed at the end of that rant was, “but they’ll never take our FREEDOM!” I was about ready to get my AR & follow you into battle!! Preach on brother!!

[@matsuringo24]

I come back to this every so often when I need a little motivation, it always does the trick.

[@ZENMASTERME1]

@1:09 “Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners” ~ George Carlin

[@theoregontruckerT880]

I never remember this quote when it matters. God I wish I could hear what George would say about today

[@Snakedude4life]

@@theoregontruckerT880 He would’ve gotten the Alex Jones treatment today.

[@jonbaxter2254]

It's also not wanting to right the wrongs of the world, it's wanting other people to bow and scrape before them.

[@birdup6663]

I've already been seeing the SJW pushback against George Carlin, which is kind of bizarre when you think about the things he stood for and what he had to say.

[@el_killorcure]

@@birdup6663 Where? I'm new to this godsend person whom to my sorrow is no longer with us...

[@SpecialEDy]

Remember, you guys are the real heros. *Sips milk

[@wraitheory]

HEY! ... Thank you. Also, an old legend speaks of milk "doin a body good"; perhaps we can all continue believing in that... MAYBE? :/

[@fearoffema]

That's what I told the judge.

[@bemotivated8443]

We need a comic staring the drinker with a pistol in one hand and a bottle of Jack Daniels in another he bravely fighting back the hordes of feminists and SJWs

[@sclarin2]

You've always been such a good boy *milk sipping intensifies

[@edrosa3485]

I see what you did there.... The Boys fan....

[@brentnuttle4193]

Last couple of minutes was epically inspiring.

[@dootguy2238]

I absolutely love that your videos aren’t just about storytelling and movies, but rather the philosophy behind them and how it connects to the much wider philosophy of the state of our world and the people in it.

[@fenrirtheicewolf2019]

Japan: Makes female characters as cute as possible and enjoyable. America: Designs the most hideous thing there is.

[@_V.Va_]

Weeaboo moment.

[@Jsssddfgffghshdhdhusjsjd]

Aye, why'd you want characters to be ugly on purpose? They can look however you imagine, might as well make them look good eh? Or weird or just creative, good point reply man

[@Snakedude4life]

Compare this cover to chainsaw man. To Demon slayer. Almost any cover of MHA.

[@kegman83]

America: Why is our comic industry dying?

[@patrikmiles9342]

This feels like the Jimmy neutron meme where you do the same thing over again

[@Pika-Chu64]

"Once you accept everything there is no need to aspire for anything" - Critical Drinker

[@furtim1]

It is hard to say that these woke folk accept everything. Seems to me it is the inverse. Nothing is acceptable. Yet, we are asked to accept everything or be deemed "unacceptable" for our "discriminating" taste. 2 + 2 = 5

[@jesusknight1]

@@furtim1 And that is exactly what they want. So we will aspire for nothing.

[@mwrightinsurance]

This subject matter is critical. Great video. Great writing. 👍

[@taylorman666]

Now, this might come off poorly, but I think that what made early heroes so powerful was that they were relatable. Every slave in Rome learned of Spartacus and his ventures, every poor person in England knew about the deeds of Robin Hood. These people did things that people wanted and strived to do. They looked to these people as inspiration and a reason to not give up. It is almost sad how today, these heroes are seen as products, things to be profited off of, and I think that is why a few newer heroes fail, while some people may relate, the majority of people aren’t inspired the way that older heroes used to be. For example, during WWII, (even though he was used to sell war bonds) Captain America inspired the ideals of the country during that time. Now look at this comic, you have a character that caters to certain groups as a self insert. No inspiration, no motivation, just a product.

[@arranleon7874]

The "bar" should be something we hit our heads on, not something we trip over.

[@dragodx8238]

This. This is a good qoute

[@overlorddante]

I disagree. The bar should be something we do chin ups on. It's meant to help us better ourselves.

[@shan4680]

James Cameron, we need you now more than ever! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ2cn4ewedN5d6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnqmY2WdhsubbKc

[@arranleon7874]

@@overlorddante that's kind of what I was going for dude! 😉

[@overlorddante]

@@arranleon7874 I got you 👍

[@stupid90able]

Why starfire let her daughter get that size? Sounds like neglect to me.

[@DragonTigerBoss]

Starfire already disintegrated Jericho. Why not disintegrate the rice krispy treats out of this chub scout's paws?

[@the.french.lobstercolinrau2728]

can't see how people who devaluate their mind and body health that much could value other people's ones..

[@DiggitySlice]

@@the.french.lobstercolinrau2728 good point. We see how they treat others

[@peytonmac1131]

@@the.french.lobstercolinrau2728 Plenty of people hate themselves and cause personal harm, but would never wish harm or sadness on others. It's just those people usually aren't the sort who then go and write comic books like this, so you don't find out about them.

[@amberslahlize7961]

More likely the baby just demanded to be fed donuts and Chinese food, and Robin just wasn't there to help smack the baby into shape because he was off on missions, leaving poor little Starfire helpless to figure out that giving into demanding children is rather poor parental guidance....resulting in the child becoming overweight with unmanageable anger issues.

[@emixmim]

That nearly brought me to tears! Holy shit Drinker! Thanks for voicing my inner thoughts that I couldn't have formulated any better!

[@thomashauguel6811]

One of the best breakdowns on why humanity need heroes; to inspire us and to show us that even the best of us have flaws that can be overcome with hard work and perseverance. And that "Anyway, that's all I've got for today. Go away now." was delivered with soul-wrenching perfection. Well done, Drinker. I salute you, mate!

[@Hazyla]

WHY ISNT ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT SPEECH? THATS THE BEST SHIT I’VE EVER HEARD

[@brakk7117]

lmao are you on something? there are so many people talking about the speech. but whatever, i agree with you it was a 10/10 for me

[@TheFlackbaume]

@@brakk7117 Perfect score, 5/7.

[@Hazyla]

@@brakk7117 idk man maybe I was because I guess I didn’t see any of the comments when I said this

[@frisktheangel5318]

AGREE!

[@user-iz8np3vv4i]

Because people don't want to be put on a 'LIST'.

[@ermac9275]

For anyone who hasn’t read Kingdom Come, Starfire and Robin already had a daughter, and no, she’s nothing like this abomination

[@frozenkilt]

And, by God, EVERYONE should read Kingdom Come.

[@Zathren]

Thank you. This is the kind of thing I desperately wanted to know about. Got to look up Kingdom Come some day. Now if only there was canon BB and Raven.

[@nightghoul7368]

Nope sorry BB has to be a sorry loser who watches everyone he likes die in front on him.

[@ermac9275]

@@Zathren no problem man. Happy to pass on comic book knowledge wherever I can

[@RodsRetroplays]

One of the most beautiful comics I've ever read. Alongside the Justice story for the Justice League. It's what got me to admire Alex Ross so much

[@tanksaawk]

"Once you accept everything, then there's no need to strive for anything." My goodness!! These are equally philosophical and true words my man Pretty much everything is said with these words, ever

[@gregoryhancock6057]

Damn... your posts don't exactly cause me to tear up. Great post, man.

[@zackanderson7440]

I’m not even angry anymore, I just want good storytelling again.

[@terminate2345]

I was thinking the exact same thing. My rage has died down, now I just miss what once was. I’ve collected comics for 30 years, I’ve pretty much given up on it at this point.

[@fattiger6957]

Unfortunately, mainstream comics seems deadset on suicide before they would ever create good stories again.

[@terminate2345]

@@fattiger6957 It does seem intentional. I find it hard to believe that even the “writers” think this is quality work.

[@dongately2817]

To be fair - the cover is definitely not eye-catching. The story may (I’m trying not to judge by the cover here) have some substance. I don’t mind being subverted, but at first glance this looks like a soft option.

[@florianlaur5300]

That died in the 2010s

[@ClassicKrak83]

Nightstar is actually Starfire's and Nightwing's daughter. This garbage is just a smack in the face to what's already been done.

[@mitchellatticuswolfgang6554]

That’s a shame because Nightstar is actually not a bad name.

[@Jnnewsman]

@@mitchellatticuswolfgang6554 Plus she's a beautiful character, unlike this...... abomination

[@mitchellatticuswolfgang6554]

@@Jnnewsman I saw the cover floating around and I thought they just made Raven fat.

[@Jnnewsman]

@@mitchellatticuswolfgang6554 Lmao, but the face is beautiful

[@garmadonsrightarms4434]

@@mitchellatticuswolfgang6554 same

[@SteelR4t]

I literally don't have the words to express how fantastic a summary this video is of what's not only going wrong with our popular culture, but as a wider point our entire society. Both this and the similar video you did about villains are just so absolutely bang on the money. Bravo, CD. Bravo.

[@MrMarkjams]

You talking about story telling and heroes brings me to tears

[@RogueFox2185]

And here I thought we couldn’t find something lower than Snowflake and Spacespace, but Mandy proved me absolutely wrong.

[@Exodus-sh5mq]

nah snowflake and safespace are still the lowest. this is still pretty low tho

[@dtmcgmcgr9081]

Weren't snowflake and safespace gag characters?

[@razorflossrazor2937]

@@dtmcgmcgr9081 nope. They were real characters and the only reason they didn't come out(although I've heard they still might)is because of how much hate the video introducing them got. It was hated by both sides.

[@Jar0fMay0]

Way to go on pushing the bar even lower

[@multitimmytiger2]

It's her super power, you know.

[@coolbeans3752]

It's not even a cringe OC it's a cringe self-insert.

[@fattiger6957]

The sad thing is, Starfire and Nightwing had a daughter in Kingdom Come and she was a pretty cool character.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@fattiger6957 nightstar right? was a well loved and cute character too

[@TricoliciSerghei]

Wow, utterly impressed by your speech.

[@brucequam7416]

Excellent. You cut straight to the core of the matter in a succinct manner.

[@audreygroger1395]

“And when everyone’s super... no one will be” Syndrome; The Incredibles

[@albertovalcarenghi350]

Apparently similar concept but different approach, IMO. Syndrome was determined to destroy superheroes as they rejected him, so the plan was to give "superpowers" to everyone but for cheap... making everyone super without struggle or achievement, an easy way to the top. Basically, the result would have been to remove the "super" from heroes but only because powers would have been common. This, on the other side, destroys the superheroes, taking them down in the dirt. The result is to not only remove the "super" part by eliminating it, but also to destroy the "hero" part.

[@TalkingAboutGames]

@@albertovalcarenghi350 Exactly, it's more like "and when no one is super... no one will be", that's it.

[@jimlongo5494]

"When everybody's somebody, then no one's anybody."--Don Alhambra (via W.S. Gilbert), The Gondoliers, some 115 years earlier.

[@pwnmeisterage]

Syndrome's plan was to make everyone "equal" by elevating everybody up to the same high (somehow superpowered) status. The woke approach is to make everyone "equal" by dragging everybody down to the same low (somehow undesirable) status.

[@Neverender6]

This reminds me of a time when the public transit service in my city partnered with the local ballet company to make a series of ads encouraging people to take public transit. They featured beautiful photographs of ballet dancers, men and women in incredible shape, performing all kinds of difficult ballet moves and poses in public locations. A group of the same sort of nihilistic, cynical people described in this video complained that the ads were triggering and offensive to out-of-shape people, and that they should be taken down because they do not represent the average subway rider. To the city's credit, they refused to be bullied and kept the ads up. It still brings me a little spark of joy every time I see one of the photos on my commute.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

We live in a Quality-DROUGHT

[@sirrogersii4582]

I'd prolly feel that same spark too

[@Neko_Medic]

considering how nightmarish ballet training actually is, mad respect.

[@brunsomarrr]

Great story. What city?

[@skullcrusade3436]

If people in better shape than you makes you feel bad about yourself, the only correct response is to take that as a motivation to be better. Screaming and getting offended, trying to make them put down posters that was a result of their hard-work, is incredibly offensive as well. Imagine putting dedication to your craft, and people say they don't want to see your work because it makes them feel self-conscious...

[@reoden7546]

This new "hero" inspired me to watch what I eat and go get some exercise. So I guess I should be grateful. All jokes aside though, this video was extremely profound. Some of your best work yet, Drinker!