The Absurd Power of Gen 1 Chansey.

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Jimothy Cool

Jimothy Cool

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Pokemon Competitive Singles in Gen 1 is a world full of mechanical quirks and jank. This metagame is dominated by Normal types, and of all the Normal types in the game, Chansey reigns supreme as the most powerful defensively.
Chansey is a member of "The Big 3", alongside Tauros and Snorlax. 3 Pokemon so powerful that they're on almost every single Competitive team.
Is Chansey the best of the 3? Maybe. That's a great question. I know the answer, and yet I won't tell it to you. I'm going to keep it to myself.
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@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 ай бұрын
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@geoffreygeorge999
@geoffreygeorge999 10 ай бұрын
bro make a video parodying the youtubers who think Australia don't exist
@pikapete2719
@pikapete2719 10 ай бұрын
Is Iron Mugulis dishwasher safe?
@raytonlin1
@raytonlin1 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for making it available in Canada :)
@agentblackbird9435
@agentblackbird9435 10 ай бұрын
Iron Mugulis is probably the only time I’ve considered buying KZbin merch
@crabjonas1946
@crabjonas1946 10 ай бұрын
If it would ship to the Netherlands it would be the first merch i buy
@ScoutBostonAnonStuds
@ScoutBostonAnonStuds 10 ай бұрын
That's why there's always a Chansey at pokemon centers. Not only do they provide healing assistance, they are also the bodyguards of the patients.
@Bonovasitch
@Bonovasitch 10 ай бұрын
Truly the ultimate Pokemon, Chansey determines whether everyone else's team lives or dies.
@penpal222
@penpal222 9 ай бұрын
I will never forget this comment 😅
@slemded
@slemded 10 ай бұрын
In generation 1 competitive singles chansey is an absolute monster
@perturbo4253
@perturbo4253 10 ай бұрын
Chansey is a member of the trio called The "Big 3"
@davidmandel8960
@davidmandel8960 10 ай бұрын
Chansey's two other partners in crime are Snorlax and Tauros.
@lunafreed
@lunafreed 10 ай бұрын
These 3 pokemon are so powerful that they are auto-include on just about every single competitive team
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 10 ай бұрын
Woah spoilers for the first line
@zorgling25
@zorgling25 10 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, Normal is the best type in Generation 1.
@charglie
@charglie 10 ай бұрын
That’s not Chansey, that’s her pixelated past paradox form, “Bad Egg”
@shadowtitanx3962
@shadowtitanx3962 10 ай бұрын
Bad Egg is actually a thing since Gen 3. More like Spoiled Egg.
@KopperNeoman
@KopperNeoman 10 ай бұрын
​@@shadowtitanx3962Since Bad Egg is just data that failed checksumming... yeah.
@irupana2ify
@irupana2ify 10 ай бұрын
"El huevo malo"
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 4 ай бұрын
Rotten Egg
@yuxnhockeyBC
@yuxnhockeyBC 10 ай бұрын
Wow Iron Mugulis really be stimulating the australian economy and indulging in it’s rich history
@chester1882
@chester1882 10 ай бұрын
A video about the history of discovered mechanics would be cool. Gen1 Normal type para immunity, Gen 7 can't stack Veil + screens etc.
@appointmenteer
@appointmenteer 10 ай бұрын
seconded! thatd be really cool
@appelofdoom8211
@appelofdoom8211 10 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed that he'll release it december 27th for the 9 year anniversary of the bodyslam para discovery.
@essentures
@essentures 10 ай бұрын
Can u guys say more of those mechanics discovered? Veil + screen gen 7 stack is new to me, is there more?
@Omla33
@Omla33 10 ай бұрын
​@@essentures in gen8 metronome was discovered to reset if the move was protected or something similar, which killed it as a niche item
@goatles9423
@goatles9423 10 ай бұрын
Crazy part about the gen 1 normal para immunity was that they explicitly mention it as a mechanic from gen 1 that was changed in gen 2 if you went to the trainer school in Stadium 2. Guess everyone thought the tutorial was a waste of time
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 10 ай бұрын
With Gen 1's Big Three, despite Snorlax, Chansey, and Tauros all sharing a type, they fill in different niches. Chansey is a special wall that can heal herself and spread status, and has a bit of an offensive bite, Tauros is a purely offensive revenge killer, and Snorlax is a mixture of offense and defense, able to both hit hard and stay in for long.
@apricot8301
@apricot8301 10 ай бұрын
Chansey's biggest issue in gen 1 is its 4 moveslot syndrome. You really just want to run absolutely everything on it for different situations. Softboiled is a must so that takes up a slot. Thunder wave is so useful that you almost always want it. Ice Beam is basically necessary as coverage, and to threaten a freeze. Reflect is so good against the other normals that you really like having it. Seismic Toss is great overall damage when Ice Beam isn't enough or runs out. Thunderbolt good coverage against Starmie which you wall. And of course Sing is pretty good on its own.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 10 ай бұрын
Ice Beam also threatens Rhydon (Chansey 2HKO's) who also threatens Chansey with a 2HKO from EQ. Being stuck against it isn't something you want since Thunder Wave and Thunderbolt does nothing to it and Seismic Toss doesn't KO it quick enough. Reflect also turns Chansey into a bit of a mixed tank (of course crits ruin the fun) which is something I like running personally.
@ethosterros9430
@ethosterros9430 10 ай бұрын
Meaning you build the other team moves around its holes.
@raybob7904
@raybob7904 10 ай бұрын
can't believe i was so close to iron mugulis irl, i'm never going outside ever again
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules 10 ай бұрын
he said 100% accuracy in gen 1 unironically.
@williamhowells806
@williamhowells806 10 ай бұрын
the poor fool has never faced the 1 in 65k chance to miss twice in a row
@furiouscorgi6614
@furiouscorgi6614 10 ай бұрын
​@@williamhowells806that's Stadium, Gen 1 Showdown is usually in RBY, which is 1/256 to miss
@williamhowells806
@williamhowells806 10 ай бұрын
@@furiouscorgi6614 yes i know. that why i said twice in a row. missing once in stadium is 1/65k. missing once in base rby is 1/256. missing 2 times back to back is also around 1/65k
@JamesRBroklin
@JamesRBroklin 10 ай бұрын
@@williamhowells806 There's actually ANOTHER weird glitch in RBY, where if you hit the 1/256 chance to miss, the odds for hitting get flipped, meaning you're only 1/256 to HIT the opponent, and you miss the other 255 times.
@ultraalex20
@ultraalex20 10 ай бұрын
It’s hard out here for a trainer.
@Wrulfy
@Wrulfy 10 ай бұрын
At this point you're just adding small inaccuracies to get us gen 1 nerds to comment them out
@Espadasilenciosa
@Espadasilenciosa 10 ай бұрын
1:15 The best fighting type attack in gen1 is "High Jump Kick", not "Submission". It has 85 damage, 90% accuracy and only 1hp of recoil damage per miss. Unfortunately, it's a move exclusive of Hitmonlee, a pokemon with too many flaws to be popular.
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 10 ай бұрын
Hitmonlee's special of 35 did not help it for sure
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 10 ай бұрын
AKSHULLY In the context of gen 1 OU, the best fighting move is actually Low Kick. It's not significantly weaker than Submission, and doesn't really have any notable benchmarks it misses that Submission hits, it has better accuracy, and most importantly, you don't take recoil from hitting Chansey or Snorlax with Submission. If they could run it, they'd absolutely run Hi Jump Kick, but, they can't, and if it can learn both Submission and Low Kick, it should just use Low Kick. Unfortunately, Pinsir can't learn Low Kick...
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 10 ай бұрын
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Pinsir couldnt learn anything in gen1. it took until gen4 for it to get any kind of help
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 10 ай бұрын
@@vulcanraven9701 It has Swords Dance and Bind That's... uh... I mean...
@manuelschmidt3530
@manuelschmidt3530 10 ай бұрын
Hitmonlee and Missingno can learn it😂😉
@BETTER.THANYOU.
@BETTER.THANYOU. 10 ай бұрын
I love how iron mugulis has changed for the better ❤
@meilleurefr3356
@meilleurefr3356 10 ай бұрын
Don't be fooled, he might be doing some tourism he is not even a bit less dangerous. Who knows what he's ploting, probably looking for allies and become a menace to society once again
@chester1882
@chester1882 10 ай бұрын
Chansey attac, Chansey protec, but most importantly its sprite cute as hec
@skortyspice
@skortyspice 10 ай бұрын
Chaney is the only pokemon in the big three who has been cut in competitive circuits and those teams were still successful. it is generally considered by far the worst of the big 3 as its lack of offensive presence lets a bunch of other pokemon who don't care about paralysis set up on it, such as snorlax or slowbro.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 10 ай бұрын
Its Speed and 4 moveslot syndrome hurts it. Base 105 Special is good by Gen 1 standards but it can't take full advantage of it when Softboiled and Thunder Wave is mandatory, Ice Beam is better to run than Thunderbolt if you had to pick between the 2 and then the wildcard move of Counter, Sing, Reflect (I like Reflect for matching up better against Rhydon), Seismic Toss, etc. You can't fit everything you want onto one set.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 10 ай бұрын
Yeah The problem with Chansey compared to the other two, is that Chansey is much, much more passive. You can win with just a Tauros or a Snorlax and a plan, you really can't win with just a Chansey, outside of weird conditions. Chansey is stuck picking what it doesn't get beaten by, not how it wins the game. Ice Beam/Blizzard means it doesn't lose to Zapdos, or probably Rhydon. Counter means it probably doesn't lose to Tauros. Unlike, say, Snorlax, which can decide between Amnesia, to do a special sweep, explode to take out a bad team matchup, etc.
@keneor4468
@keneor4468 10 ай бұрын
If Iron Mugulis ever becomes available in Europe, I'll make sure to make him visit the palace of Versailles.
@bobjoe3492
@bobjoe3492 9 ай бұрын
It's funny how the same type proc not activating mechanic wasn't found until recently when the Trainer School in Stadium 2 straight up tells you that the mechanic was removed.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 4 ай бұрын
Probably because everyone assumed they had nothing to learn from the Trainer School
@bobjoe3492
@bobjoe3492 4 ай бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 but it turns out stadium 2 trainer school was by far the best official guide to how mechanics work
@SteveScapesYT
@SteveScapesYT 10 ай бұрын
All 3 are super important but to me Chansey always feels like the most important in a given game- the hardest to bring down, the most critical to get real value from.
@nvdawahyaify
@nvdawahyaify 10 ай бұрын
People really didn't know that normal types were immune to the body slam paralysis until recently? I noticed that when I was playing gen one. No body believed me when I told them though. All it took to realize it was a lot of playing and a little bit of pattern recognition.
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 10 ай бұрын
How strong do you think gen 1 SpA chansey would be in later gens? Like, imagine chansey got an alternate evo that was just chansey gen 1s stats, so no eviolite.
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 10 ай бұрын
It's a great Special wall, but a terrible Defensive wall. So, it'd be extremely strong, unless you sneezed on it with a physical attack.
@LuLurret
@LuLurret 10 ай бұрын
Blissey
@meltysap1679
@meltysap1679 10 ай бұрын
0 SpA Chansey Hyper Voice vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Walking Wake: 118-141 (34.5 - 41.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO Chansey Seismic Toss vs. 12 HP Walking Wake: 100-100 (29.2 - 29.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO it'd have a bit more power than it does now if attacking special attackers, but even with gen 1 chansey's base stats it won't quite do what it can in gen 1 it needs to invest in bulk to withstand attacks, especially stray physical hits it might take, but that leaves it uninvested in special attack so the increase in damage output can be minimal no eviolite also pulls from its primary role
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 10 ай бұрын
@@LuLurret Difference from Blissey is 5 less HP, Attack, Defense and Speed, but 40 points of SpDef are moved to SpA
@iss2075
@iss2075 10 ай бұрын
It probably would be good in Gen III - V I reckon. But after power creep 105 Special Attack is considered "weak" now.
@glumreaper8885
@glumreaper8885 10 ай бұрын
I love how every reason behind Gen 1 tends to revolve around mechanics just not working. "Normal types can't be paralyzed by body slam" is definitely not an intended feature lmao.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 10 ай бұрын
Caveman programming. I think it's more to stop Fire types from being burned, Poison types from being Poisoned and Ice types from being Frozen. That oversight found its way into Gen 2 and Twin Needle can Poison Steel types due to not being a Poison type move with that effect.
@Emma-rw8yo
@Emma-rw8yo 10 ай бұрын
It's possible it was initially a glitch, but the Stadium games are very much aware of this mechanic, NPCs talk about it and the AI is aware of it
@duncathan_salt
@duncathan_salt 9 ай бұрын
It's an oversight as a result of a very much intended mechanic. The intended mechanic is that pokemon cannot be inflicted with a status by a move they share a type with. Electric types can't be paralyzed by thunder; ice types can't be frozen by blizzard; fire types can't be burned by fire blast. For the vast majority of cases this was an effective optimization (rather than adding special cases for each status, as was done in later gens)
@gamingwhilebroken2355
@gamingwhilebroken2355 9 ай бұрын
@@Emma-rw8yo It’s not a glitch, as the same type move can’t status same type Pokémon was obviously intended (they didn’t want fire types burned for example). BS not status-ing normals types was just not a big enough deal to fix.
@NO.10162
@NO.10162 10 ай бұрын
It used to be the "Big 4" the 4th one being exeggutor, until it was found out that his inclusion wasn't that necessary.
@Zeppongola
@Zeppongola 10 ай бұрын
Back when I first checked out competitive, I'm pretty sure smogon talked about a "big 8" too. Can't quite remember what the remaining 4 were, though. I know golem/rhydon were included, but I'm not sure if they were treated as one or two of the remaining slots (since they were considered roughly interchangeable). (zapdos, alakazam, and starmie, maybe?) I wonder what made the term switch to "big 4"
@NO.10162
@NO.10162 10 ай бұрын
@@Zeppongola I believe you're correct. Maybe it was because, out of all 8 options, the 4 (Chansey, Snorlax, and Tauros) were pretty much instapics and those who didn't use them were disadvantaged because of it.
@Emma-rw8yo
@Emma-rw8yo 10 ай бұрын
@@Zeppongola I'm guessing just "these ones are basically must-includes on almost every serious team" was a more important distinction than "these ones are all really good and every team should build with them in mind"?
@Zeppongola
@Zeppongola 10 ай бұрын
That's likely the reason for the eventual distinction, I'm just wondering what was the turning point; as in, why they didn't just use "the big 3/4" to begin with? It could be that there wasn't any particular "tipping point", and it simply became apparent enough after enough games that the gap between the top few and the top 8 was too big (or between the top 8 and the next few places was too small) that "top 3/4" was more significant, but I'm wondering if there was maybe some tech/metagame discovery or something that made them rethink it. For example, the discovery of the "normal types are immune to bodyslam paralysis" thing: maybe before they implemented that, the normal types weren't quite dominant enough to justify the "big 3" distinction, but gaining that immunity pushed them over the edge? (Either through just making already top tier pokes even stronger, or via some logic like "turns out you don't really _need_ a rock type; snorlax can tank some body slams without fear of paralysis in a pinch", or something)
@notshockwavedemon7543
@notshockwavedemon7543 10 ай бұрын
Normal was the only real way to deal with Psychics in Gen 1 since Psychics have lower defense but tend to have High Special
@Psycho3418
@Psycho3418 10 ай бұрын
That and Psychic is resisted by other psychics with good special like: Alakazam, Starmie, Exeggutor, even Jynx could switch into Psychic, not to mention Chansey so it is harder for them to get ko's compared to normals. Mewtwo and Mew subvert it but they're op :)
@kurze8297
@kurze8297 10 ай бұрын
It had so much bulk crazy to think it even evolved the generation after
@Psycho3418
@Psycho3418 10 ай бұрын
I remember reading a description on Chansey somewhere back in the day (don't remember who wrote it, maybe Hipmonlee) who remarked it was ironic that despite Chansey receiving a evolution in gen 2, Blissey was never as good as Chansey was in gen 1. Chansey may very well have been the biggest beneficiary of the singular special stat in gen 1. It has higher special than Starmie, which is kinda nuts when we see Starmie as this more offensive tank. Regardless while I wouldn't stamp the big 3 as mandatory per say, you pretty much need a good reason not to use them (especially Tauros who I think is outright indispensable). And Chansey, while arguably the least mandatory because Tauros and Snorlax do so much on the offensive side, is also kinda the glue that holds the metagame together as Starmie and Alakazam get ruined much faster by bad rng while Chansey can run Sing viably cause it gets so many free turns. The lower RBY tiers play so offensively compared to OU, and it almost all have to do with them not having good defensive mons (sorry Porygon).
@Elfman126
@Elfman126 10 ай бұрын
Iron Mugulis seems to be traveling alot, I am so proud for it man.
@MarMaxGaming
@MarMaxGaming 9 ай бұрын
5:03 nostalgia hit so hard seeing that view of Articuno
@TheCrazyhusky
@TheCrazyhusky 10 ай бұрын
To correct you about thawing pokemon in Gen 1, They are not thawed from Fire-type moves, It's any move that can inflict a burn that will cause you to thaw from freezing. Due to NEARLY all fire type moves are able inflict burn thats cause that what makes foes thaw. However Fire spin doesn't cause a burn. Since Fire spin doesn't cause a burn you can still use it on a Frozen foe and not thaw it. You've got to love the weird Gen1 programming.
@ManiacalMan
@ManiacalMan 10 ай бұрын
what about tri-attack?
@TheCrazyhusky
@TheCrazyhusky 10 ай бұрын
@@ManiacalMan Tri Attack in Gen1 only inflicts damage and has no secondary effect. The burn, freeze and paralyze chance was added in Gen2.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 10 ай бұрын
Yep and Fire types in Gen 1 have it rough and stuck in NU or below.
@Omar_ZX
@Omar_ZX 10 ай бұрын
The big 3 is my favourite competitive trio in pkmn
@bitterzombie
@bitterzombie 10 ай бұрын
If submission was just a fighting type body slam, it would balance the game a lot
@thomasxl200
@thomasxl200 10 ай бұрын
Am i going to spend my weekend taking Iron Mugulis to the Rocky statue in Philadelphia
@VerbalLearning
@VerbalLearning 10 ай бұрын
This might be a hot take but i'd actually like to see Gen 1's Hyper Beam mechanic brought back. Maybe just for Hyper Beam (and perhaps Giga Impact), as i'm not too sure how strong it'd be for the starter type variants Blast Burn, Hydro Cannon and Frenzy Plant as those can actually hit for Super Effective damage making the KO condition somewhat easier to meet. Don't get me wrong it made sense back in gen 2 and for quite a bit onwards to keep this mechanic out of the game, but with the amount of power creep the game has seen over the years, i think there's a chance to bring this back without it being too overwhelming. But perhaps i'm super wrong.
@lucasferro6050
@lucasferro6050 10 ай бұрын
No, because choice specs Porygon-Z with adaptability and Gen 1 Hyper Beam would be ridiculous but also, don't forget Pokémon can't be as bulky as they were in Gens 1 and 2 because of the change from stat exp to EVs making you unable to fully train ALL your stats, that's why Gen 1 Gengar can take an EQ from Tauros as seen in the video. The introduction of items and abilities makes this unviable to do, LGPE could've done it though as it lacked both
@lucasferro6050
@lucasferro6050 10 ай бұрын
Also, entry hazards
@iss2075
@iss2075 10 ай бұрын
@@lucasferro6050 Maybe, it's hard to know. But I would like it back too. We have moves like Draco Meteor and Close Combat now, so Gen I Hyper Beam doesn't seem so good anymore. Also tons of priority moves and also the opportunity cost is huge, if you switch in a Ghost or Steel on the Hyper Beam you get a free turn, it's not completely spammable, you definitely will need to execute a gameplan to pull it off. I'd like them to bring back Gen I Explosion too. I think 340 BP is a nice middle ground between 250 BP and 500 BP. I really miss Explosion, it was such a fun move for the game when it was good and commonly used.
@noukan42
@noukan42 10 ай бұрын
​@@lucasferro6050except it's a lost turn if it fail the KO. Making very possible to counter it. Even if it does 99% you are sure next turn you won't be attacked and that is big for momentum. And if oush come to shove you can just ban Porygon. To me that a move that is supposed to be super powerful is competitively almost worthless is a bigger problem than a couple mons becoming more dangerous.
@lucasferro6050
@lucasferro6050 10 ай бұрын
@@noukan42 Thing is, the only pokémon that would run HyperBeam are the broken ones like Porygon-Z, the risk would be too much for anything using it without stab and a high attacking stat, even Xurkitree or Chandelure would avoid using it for a key reason: they have better options for coverage without that huge risk. Let's not forget why so many mons used it in the first Gen, there weren't any better options AND pokémon wee just bulkier, so the risk of losing a turn wasn't as big of an issue as today, revenge killing was not as easy as today. Tauros missed a KO with HyperBeam in Gen 1? It's fine, he can take a hit or two and still be used. MegaKangaskhan missed a KO with GigaImpact nowadays? Yep, it's probably dead to a close combat or specs draco meteor. Pokémon are less bulky and moves are way stronger, making revenge killing super easy today. So these recharge moves would be either avoided unless a pokémon has no other better option, or it would be Porygon-Z KOing max spdef Toxapex after spikes damage. TL;DR: The rechange turn is too risky for most mons to use it because getting revenge killed is super easy nowadays, so it would only be used by a very limited amount of pokés. Sorry for this essay of a comment lmao
@JohnDoe-gc3bj
@JohnDoe-gc3bj 10 ай бұрын
I would submit that Low Kick is the best fighting move in Gen 1, it had a decent base power, as well as 30% flinch chance.
@shironeko1843
@shironeko1843 9 ай бұрын
Low Kick could flinch?
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 10 ай бұрын
This is why Pokémon Centers do not need security. Chansey is all the security they need.
@Toontownrulesall
@Toontownrulesall 10 ай бұрын
Bros uploading at 6am. The madlad
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 10 ай бұрын
Its 10 pm in sydney
@spiciestbirb
@spiciestbirb 10 ай бұрын
The world is not America.
@Toontownrulesall
@Toontownrulesall 10 ай бұрын
@@spiciestbirb youtube comments cant take a joke apparently
@Toontownrulesall
@Toontownrulesall 10 ай бұрын
@@tsawy6 it was a joke :u obviously i know timezones exist
@spiciestbirb
@spiciestbirb 10 ай бұрын
@@Toontownrulesall sorry, didn't realise it was a joke. no need to be rude tho.
@kaja3932
@kaja3932 9 ай бұрын
I once ran a Metronome Chansey set. It was obviously goofy, but I once Metronomed into Dig while my Chansey was paralyzed. I got the paralysis during the second part of the attack. Let's just say my opponent wasn't happy
@kaja3932
@kaja3932 9 ай бұрын
I was gonna upload the replay to this reply, but it expired. For now, here's the odds of that happening: 0.306748468% chance per Metronome
@snrken
@snrken 10 ай бұрын
hello jimothy
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 ай бұрын
Hello.
@cadesummers5866
@cadesummers5866 10 ай бұрын
Can you do a video about how the body slam paralysis mechanic was discovered? How was it unknown to the community for so long?
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 4 ай бұрын
Shouldn't have been, Stadium mentions it in the tutorials
@wacobodene3453
@wacobodene3453 10 ай бұрын
iron mugulis has changed his ways after experiencing the joys of art, this is insane !
@daka.notatp
@daka.notatp 9 ай бұрын
The limited options and specific niches that GEN 1 has its just perfect
@BlaqueT
@BlaqueT 10 ай бұрын
Defs would like to hear more about the other 2 of the Big 3, thanks for the vid!
@CMDRPF69
@CMDRPF69 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jim, just wanted to note that Hi Jump Kick is the best Fighting type move in Gen 1 - It's just also limited to only Hitmonlee.
@pspsmallz
@pspsmallz 10 ай бұрын
Nice video, hope you cover the other two of the big three if you have not already.
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 10 ай бұрын
Normal is like Dragon Type from Gen 4 to 5. Only 1 type resists it (Ghost there is only 1). So having Normal STAB is also great in Gen 1. Steel Types and the addition of more Ghosts and Rock Types really hurt Normal Types and Normal Type moves. Funny that the Normal Types being immun to Bodyslam paralysis is discovered recently through datamining. Recently I found out that Pokemon Stadium 2 acknowledged its existence in Earl's Pokemon Academy. Which also confirms it was intended game design at the time. While Stadium 2 is a gen 2 game, it does address changes between Gen 1 and Gen 2 like how Fire Blast used to have 30% burn rate compared to its Gen 2 10% burn rate.
@niethenerich
@niethenerich 10 ай бұрын
I thought it was more common knowledge that you can't get paralysed if you have the same type as the move, but I guess not?
@wedding2710
@wedding2710 10 ай бұрын
it's common knowledge now, but the "body slam doesn't paralyze normal types" interaction wasn't actually discovered until I think 2014, which makes it relatively new knowledge in the minds of old-heads
@dbf_exe
@dbf_exe 10 ай бұрын
@@wedding2710 Which is pretty funny because Earl's Academy in Pokémon Stadium 2 (2000) covers it, so it goes to show that zero people actually played through it
@lxram9139
@lxram9139 10 ай бұрын
Thats not true in general anyway. Thunderwave can paralyse electric type in early gens
@Taterz.
@Taterz. 10 ай бұрын
Every time I hear you say "Iron Mugulus" we inch closer to world peace 😂
@ethanjohnson2849
@ethanjohnson2849 10 ай бұрын
Where there's a Tauros there's a way. - Generation 1 Proverb
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 2 ай бұрын
chansey is overcentralizing 😂
@yoshineitor
@yoshineitor 10 ай бұрын
People run level 85 Chansey to Seismic Toss 3 times and make their enemies lose exactly 255 HP, which in Gen 1 causes recovery moves to fail, Chansey is that bulky in Gen 1 to allow itself to get -15 levels and still wall 99% of the 151 Pokemon. But Tauros is the best of the big 3 because it mauls everything in sight, you can win matches by simply statusing the enemy Tauros, because that means your Tauros will clean the enemy team with no speed ties on the way. I mean Tauros counters are: "Can it take a Body Slam + Hyperbeam or Blizzard AND status it? ", if anything most checks need to be full HP to survive the combo and status it
@melikmourali2072
@melikmourali2072 10 ай бұрын
People = that one guy that Big Yellow talked about. The strat makes sense but it's bad in practice : you get 2HKO'ed by a Body Slam from Snorlax and Tauros has a 97.4% chance to 2HKO Chansey with it . Don't use that set
@StuSharp93
@StuSharp93 10 ай бұрын
I think what makes Tauros the best is that it takes advantage of all of Gen 1's weird quirks better than any other Pokemon: Normal typing making it immune to Body Slam Paralysis and access to STAB Body Slam and Hyper Beam, Special being one stat so it's Blizzard is coming from a respectable base 70 Special stat, a solid movepool when so many mons get no STAB moves, let alone a good movelist in general, and Crits being tied to a Pokemon's base Speed so it has a high chance to land crits, unlike Snorlax and Chansey.
@a3aannaqvi627
@a3aannaqvi627 10 ай бұрын
Cloyster is the best Tauros counter
@melikmourali2072
@melikmourali2072 10 ай бұрын
@@a3aannaqvi627 I use Thunderbolt Tauros which 2HKOs 🤓. Cloyster checks Snorlax though, which is rare enough
@saiyaddanapudi9216
@saiyaddanapudi9216 10 ай бұрын
@@StuSharp93and Hyper Beam skipping recharge
@JamesSonOfBaboonzo
@JamesSonOfBaboonzo 10 ай бұрын
I just got my Iron Mugulis, right on time for American Thanksgiving tonight.
@AI-DreigonGPT
@AI-DreigonGPT 10 ай бұрын
Alakazam should have said Pls babe dont hurt me
@Maelael
@Maelael 9 ай бұрын
Chansey, Sorlax, Torous, Persian, Hitmonlee, and Hitmonchan and watch the wins just roll in
@subtodicerat8305
@subtodicerat8305 10 ай бұрын
i love gen 1. it is the most goody metagame i have ever seen
@cruye9633
@cruye9633 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how the freze thing would work out in a theoretical gen 1 doubles format. Would certain sets run weak fire moves just to thaw their team mates?
@nathanlamont9920
@nathanlamont9920 10 ай бұрын
Iron Mugulis is going to invade my home with his 5th dimensional shenanigans. Iron Mugulis > Mr. Mxyzptlk
@glitchedoom
@glitchedoom 10 ай бұрын
I finally get to hear the funny mug man talk about my preferred metagame!
@mjross007
@mjross007 9 ай бұрын
Nothing like beating your friends with a lvl 255 Chansey after doing some glitches😂.
@pimpgod4085
@pimpgod4085 10 ай бұрын
Chansey and electrode are a must in stadium 1 rentals for defeating Mewtwo...the highest HP mon and the highest speed mon
@TayoAAdetola
@TayoAAdetola 10 ай бұрын
Are the Big 3 aware that the Loyal 3 got big in the game in order to usurp them?
@ultimapower6950
@ultimapower6950 10 ай бұрын
The big 3 solos them anyways
@Crayvanitas
@Crayvanitas 10 ай бұрын
The big 4 , I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU EXEGGUTTOR
@_Bunger_
@_Bunger_ 10 ай бұрын
Oml gen 1 porygon back sprite is so silly looking
@perfectspare3009
@perfectspare3009 10 ай бұрын
First there was Iron Jugulis. Now Iron Mugulis. Next one must be Iron Pugulis or I’ll be sad
@ASMRstates
@ASMRstates 9 ай бұрын
what song is playing at 3:33?
@polokus_
@polokus_ 10 ай бұрын
I thought it was the "Big 4" of OU? What happened to my boy coconut tree?
@notme2966
@notme2966 10 ай бұрын
some weird starfish did him dirty
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 10 ай бұрын
@@notme2966 Mega Drain being so weak also doesn't help.
@jamesgiles4517
@jamesgiles4517 10 ай бұрын
Do i sence a tauros episode next 👀
@reptiledisfunction9232
@reptiledisfunction9232 10 ай бұрын
& normals don’t get para’d by body slam or other secondary effects on normal moves ‼️
@RespectCarbuncles
@RespectCarbuncles 9 ай бұрын
Blizzard has 90% accuracy in Gen 1 and a 30% freeze chance in the Japanese version.
@niki75
@niki75 9 ай бұрын
Actully I'd argue Snorlax is the one that is the "easiest" to justify dropping. Tauros is fast, strong and not afraid of Rhydon or Golem thanks to it's access to Blizzard and perfectly serviceable base 70 Special. Snorlax is good but without it's mammoth SpD it recieves in Gen 2 it's just a slow Normal type who's only two advantages over Tauros is Self Destruct and bulk.
@Nugget-master147
@Nugget-master147 9 ай бұрын
In gen 1, Chansey can actually be a powerful Pokémon
@playc.holder6432
@playc.holder6432 10 ай бұрын
I remember battling a friend back in high school and he let me use two chanseys..... TWO!
@austinfletchermusic
@austinfletchermusic 10 ай бұрын
Big Three Moment
@aldwych285
@aldwych285 10 ай бұрын
Sa generation 1 competitive singles, si Chansey ay ganap na halimaw.
@thesaltyapplewannabe5493
@thesaltyapplewannabe5493 10 ай бұрын
Im loving your content!
@melikmourali2072
@melikmourali2072 10 ай бұрын
There were a lot of clips in the end where Alakazam was losing to Chansey but I think that Alakazam can be quite good in the 1V1 vs Chansey with Thunder Wave, the 32 PP on Recover and the 33% chance of a special drop from Psychic. I would say the matchup is on Chansey's favor early and midgame, but Alakazam has better odds in the endgame
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 10 ай бұрын
If its down to a 1 v 1, Special falls from Psychic are the difference maker. Chansey can't hit it hard enough and the damage taken becomes more noticeable.
@melikmourali2072
@melikmourali2072 10 ай бұрын
@@ShiningJudgment666 We're saying the same thing, yes. I was just thinking that Chansey is better a taking a T Wave than Alakazam is at taking a Sing or a T Wave
@marvinvillasana9648
@marvinvillasana9648 10 ай бұрын
And this is why I'm subscribed hehe
@DubCmusicTV
@DubCmusicTV 9 ай бұрын
What move set?
@enlr5551
@enlr5551 10 ай бұрын
This is insane
@casonpate8536
@casonpate8536 10 ай бұрын
Tauros is easily the hardest pokemon to cut, I genuinely can not see one viable team that does not run the bull
@user-AADZ
@user-AADZ 10 ай бұрын
What terrible fighting type moves do to an old generation's metagame
@lantern108
@lantern108 10 ай бұрын
ok
@Tarkham
@Tarkham 9 ай бұрын
The most powerful pokemon in gen 1 is mewtwo with is insane stats, good type and large moovepool
@DusmaEduardo
@DusmaEduardo 10 ай бұрын
I remember making a Chansey run on Pokemon Red when I was a kid, just because it was a pink pokemon, I had no idea she was a top three
@ChibiRuah
@ChibiRuah 10 ай бұрын
I don’t play ton of gen 1 and even than I’m more casual and use mostly sample teams. I personally think snorlax is the best of the big 3 as depending on the set, they have the best match up against the other 3. That said if you are serious, I don’t think you ever cut any of them (or you super need a specific game plan why)
@kheireddineattala1281
@kheireddineattala1281 10 ай бұрын
tauros has the chad factor. This auto makes it the best
@Begeru
@Begeru 9 ай бұрын
Isn’t Mewtwo the best Pokémon and a Psychic type? I think Psychic is better than Normal.
@sillygoober752
@sillygoober752 10 ай бұрын
0:20 false psychic is the best type
@pksprite6401
@pksprite6401 9 ай бұрын
Nope
@Werelight
@Werelight 10 ай бұрын
Chansey is the weakest of them, tbh. Still an excellent mon, and a great beneficiary of the body slam discovery.
@yuki_on_ice
@yuki_on_ice 10 ай бұрын
Not using the Big 3 means only one thing: You want to lose.
@Blanktester685
@Blanktester685 10 ай бұрын
only for them to win without it lmao.
@yuki_on_ice
@yuki_on_ice 10 ай бұрын
It's hard to win without the Big 3. Sure, Chansey and Exeggutor can be substituted. But Tauros? Nah.
@joefarrow1599
@joefarrow1599 10 ай бұрын
Normal is only the best type in the game after banning mew and Mewtwo to ubers
@notme2966
@notme2966 10 ай бұрын
Mew wishes it was normal and Mewtwo would be just as good as normal (or even ice, his stats are just that good).
@joefarrow1599
@joefarrow1599 10 ай бұрын
@@notme2966 well sure but if you're just going to change things then you could give bug an immunity to everything and then bug would be the best type in the game
@nicksa1029
@nicksa1029 10 ай бұрын
Uber Chansey
@appelofdoom8211
@appelofdoom8211 10 ай бұрын
Someone forgot about high jump kick. It's not relevant since hitmonlee sucks but having him use submission in the vid is just cruel. Also it's been 8 (almost 9) years since the smogon thread about the bodyslam discovery. It's not a recent discovery. It's barely even a relatively recent discovery anymore since it's been known for almost a third of the games lifespan at this point.
@UntarLaManteca
@UntarLaManteca 10 ай бұрын
You can make an argument for all Big 3 members to be the best
@desktop-ini
@desktop-ini 8 ай бұрын
What happened to exeggutor?
@desktop-ini
@desktop-ini 8 ай бұрын
I guess guildmaster tauros decided to kill exeggutor.
@desktop-ini
@desktop-ini 8 ай бұрын
By what happened to exeggutor, I mean that isn’t exeggutor part of the big 4?
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 8 ай бұрын
it used to be. Eventually Starmie surpassed it as the #4 Pokemon and only Tauros, Snorlax and Chansey are considered "must haves" now. Still one of the best mons in Gen 1 though
@v1ultrakill730
@v1ultrakill730 10 ай бұрын
Chanseyless teams exist. They're usable. Giving up lax? Maybe. Giving up tauros? No, he's the best mon in the tier. You are not giving up tauros.
@pitchkinker
@pitchkinker 10 ай бұрын
Does Australia have thanksgiving for their abos? USA USA USA. Happy thanksgiving
@gamezharks
@gamezharks 10 ай бұрын
I sure am glad that as a European, I am safe from Iron Mugulis, as I would be forced against my will to spend my money to aquire one, were it availible in my region.
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan 10 ай бұрын
I think Naruto or Ichigo are the most powerful of the big 3, pretty difficult question. Definitely depends on when during the story we’re asking, Ichigo is just about a god at one point but Naurto is too at the end. So idk, i don’t think Chansey is even comparable.
@jimdaflynn
@jimdaflynn 10 ай бұрын
naruto is like moon level at the end of naruto, Ichigo at EoS is universe level, not even close. atill tho ichigo is a special attacker so i think hed loss a 1v1 vs chansey
@pmahcgop6693
@pmahcgop6693 10 ай бұрын
Didn’t even mention level 85 chancy using seismic toss 3 times to make an enemy chancy or snorlax unable to heal. Smh my head didn’t do enough research
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 10 ай бұрын
I knew that one.
@lardassbutternut3060
@lardassbutternut3060 10 ай бұрын
is this guy australian? he reminds me of Slazo
@FartInhalerSlamPoetry
@FartInhalerSlamPoetry 10 ай бұрын
In my original universe, chansey is rarely seen Gen 1 double battles. But then again, Ninetales is Fire / Ghost and in Gen 2 steel type was super effective vs dragon but weak against water
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