The ACC Might be in Trouble

[@paulmezzetta6905]

Thank you, John!

[@big12plus]

👍

[@CoachJLMTraining]

If I were Brett Yormark, Jim Phillips, MWC, and AAC Commissioners I would approach, Fox, CBS, NBC about creating their own Championship Football Playoff. Screw the Big 10, SEC and ESPN.

[@STC987]

You could call it the: Nobody cares Championship.

[@davidbrown386]

Why would Fox leave the Big 10?

[@tarheel7406]

Something like that wouldn't have enough gravity to work annually, but the as things stand SEC/B1G isn't consolidated enough to work either. This FSU situation is unique. Given the snub and that a natty is claimed not crowned, the optimum would be FSU beating GEORGIA and then having a legitimately disputed claimed championship. Unless FSU is contractually obligated to respect that CFP outcome.

[@carsonc29]

um no..the B12 is not a G5 level conference..regardless of what idiots think abou them..

[@SNERFAN]

If you did that you would pretty much be making the SEC and B1G a higher level of football and would lose out on alot of recruits.

[@joanmelnick1704]

I fully expect FSU to leave the ACC as soon as their ties to espn dissolve.

[@thomassweeney4494]

@joanmelnick I think it is a distinct possibility Florida State announces they are leaving the ACC before the bowl games are done.

[@chucklander5475]

It has nothing to do with the ACC. The blame should be pointed at the selection committee.

[@Keith_X]

@@chucklander5475the selection committee? Oh the one driven by espn? The same espn who is in financial ties with the sec and to a much smaller degree acc? Oh. Ok.

[@davidbrown386]

I suspect that if Florida State has an option it will be the Big 10. Probably with Miami

[@gregwoods5159]

Acc broke contract with acc teams by not defending them

[@LEE_65]

With the expanded playoffs next year we need to ditch the committee and go back to the BCS poll and put in the highest ranked G5 and the top 11 from the BCS poll

[@roris5882]

That's what I am saying. Go back to the computer rankings and take the human bias out completely if they are going to the 12 teams.

[@DR_X69]

Amen.

[@igorlobkovenko9480]

I have not seen any concrete proposal on how teams will be picked. Also, with the Pac-12 now gone, it's only four P5 leagues

[@roris5882]

@@igorlobkovenko9480 It's really only the Super 2 and everyone else. This has been a long time coming because the Playoff Committee already doesn't respect the Big12 and ACC because they are no different then the G-5. The only reason why Texas got in is because they are going to the SEC and they beat Bama at home by double digits. So Disney/ESPN had to do their riggery to protect their financial interests.

[@tarheel7406]

@@roris5882 No. The new BIG12 is Tier 2, while the current ACC remains Tier 1. This happened because the right thing would have left the SEC out. Some speculate that FSU was easier to do wrong because of its loud barking. Nevertheless, if the corruption can't be remedied, one must adjust to the corruption, at least short-term. Also, the revenue gap would have continued the consolidation without this situation.

[@KileyStansel]

FSU fan here- ACC record against SEC schools this year 6-4, so yes the lowly ACC owned the SEC in wins versus losses. FSU has beat 8 teams this year that will go to a bowl game. Kirk Herbstreet started the campaign to leave FSU out of the top 4 before Travis got hurt ESPN gives the committee their marching orders since the SEC brings in more tv revenue. FSU has voiced wanting to leave the ACC has pissed off ESPN since they own the ACC networks and with FSU leaving the conference that would bring the majority of the eye balls with them. Bama had to have a luck play against a 6-6 Auburn team, Texas beat Bama and Texas got beat by a mediocre Oklahoma team. FSU beat LSU by a much bigger score than BAMA. The committee penalizing FSU for Travis going down is complete BS! FSU d is one of the tops in the country.

[@Revolver1701]

Well said. Thank you,👍

[@tarheel7406]

a) The +3 is an ACC acknowledgement that it will deplete down to the Tier 2. ESPN surely refused to renegotiate a new current market deal, so it accepted the eventual depletion down as well. b) The clear snub suggests FSU does not have a pending B1G invite, as why wouldn't the BIG then favor future member FSU over BAMA. The snub could suggest a pending SEC invite, but the SEC decided to favor the current BAMA. c) The snub definitely suggests that FSU is not as big a brand as it thinks it is and/or its loud barking has harmed its reputation and lowered respect, To be clear, FSU was robbed, and SEC bias is now confirmed. Bigfoot has been caught, and all those discounted sightings are now more credible.

[@TheHamsterfist]

The top 13 teams are all B10 or SEC teams (including future teams) minus Florida State. It is actually fairly incredible. FSU has to look at that and be like "welp." If you look at that from any other conference, the messaging is clear.

[@thetrailvagabond]

Georgia is a two touchdown favorite. Georgia will prove the committee made the right decision. FSU won’t have a leg to stand on when the smoke clears!

[@tarheel7406]

This common defense of BAMA's inclusion evidences how poor a basketball conference the SEC is. This situation is rather common when top brands have down years, get a controversial bid as a bubble, and then make some sort of run. The argument is always "they should have never gotten a bid in the first place", a rational argument but with far less significant consequences when contrasted with a 4-team playoff. The other problem is that BAMA bumping FSU just confirms the suspected SEC bias which had been more subtle. Actual outcome isn't really the best test of a reasonable decision looking forward rather than in hindsight. Fighting the last war often ends in early defeats. The assumed best at the start doesn't always, if even usually, win at the end.

[@carsonc29]

will UGA beat FSU, especially with their back up..yes..BUT, that still isnt a reason why they got robbed..BAMA had 2 losses..IDC if they beat UGA...FSU was unbeaten..their resume should have gotten them in over BAMA...but, i still think UGA should have retained their spot in the CFP over BAMA....if TCU can lose its conference title game last year and still make the CFP, then UGA should have stayed in as well

[@williamlynch1929]

They should just go to a straight playoff system with the 11 conference champions + the next 5 highest ranked teams! 16-8-4-2-1. Leaves no doubts and more schools get a chance!!

[@daydaybrown741]

Too many teams and extra games if you do that I think the season needs to be 10 games.

[@STC987]

Terrible idea

[@williamlynch1929]

@@daydaybrown741 I thought about that but, to the championship game would be a total of 17 games! The NFL PLAYS a 16 game regular season! Here in some classes and divisions, the state championship game is the 16th game of the season! Also, the NFL has a basic playoff system where to get to the superbowl they play an extra 4 games. That is 20 games total for the last two teams standing then, think of the extra money that can be brought in with the extra games!

[@carsonc29]

@@daydaybrown741 not really..they could give the top few teams a bye..that would cut down on the number of games

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

The number of @large bids going to non-P2 schools this year if we had 12 teams was... ZERO. Every single team 1-13 but FSU was P2 from next year. Welcome to your future ACC/Big-12.

[@tarheel7406]

Hence the ACC's vote against playoff expansion.

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

@@tarheel7406 Maybe, but what did it prevent. It surely seemed, though, that non-sec/B1G teams had a hard time cracking that top 12 this year, even when the ACC had winning records against both conferences. Iowa jumped pretty high at one point considering the fact their offense would never win a game against a half decent team, they just didn't play any outside the conference championship. Meanwhile UL euthanized ND, OSU struggled to them, Clemson struggled with several teams, but also convincingly beat ND. The best OOC win of the B1G this year...

[@joshbeard9809]

People think the move from a 4 team to a 12 team playoff format will make it better. It will not. It still will be a SEC invitational with clear biasness towards them and the Big 10. Eight-Nine of the teams will be from those two conferences.

[@carsonc29]

unfortunately,....if the CFP wanted to make things fair and more interesting, do what the NCAA does for the BBALL tourney...conference champs get an auto bid...

[@slibertas1996]

Lawsuit is coming

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Interesting.

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

And SIX or more of the committee has ACC ties, one has FAMU ties (there is a relationship between FSU and FAMU, and of course they are in the same city). The chairman is the red wake forest (aka NCSU) AD. Did they want to punish FSU? Did the understand what this snub means for them (the ACC ones). FSU faces negative recruiting for this... but it's worse for EVERY other ACC team... if an undefeated FSU isn't good enough for the playoff... what do you think an NC State, GT, Pitt or even Miami gets... And I know Clemson fans think somehow they would be immune, but nope, you weren't getting in either.

[@tarheel7406]

I saw that the Chair had ACC ties but couldn't vote. The only other was a former ND player. Who are the referenced six?

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

@@tarheel7406 I thought I went over them for you and linked the CFP website. Two have SMU jobs at some point in the CV (Gene Taylor, Mitch Barnhart), one ND (undergrad for Rod West), Jim Grobe coached at Wake Forest, Warn Manuel worked at GT. Chet Gladchuk was an associate AD at Syracuse. So, 5 or 7 counting SMU and Boo "baby name" Corrigan, I do think SMU counts.

[@rickwiley6482]

In conference realignment, all this did was just push FSU more towards the B1g when it starts up again.

[@carsonc29]

if FSU an AAU school?..asking because I hear AAU status is required to join the BIG

[@SNERFAN]

​@@carsonc29they need to kickoff a few schools then Nebraska for sure

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

FSU is not an AAU University. Probably won't be.

[@JonathanRamsey87]

I’m suprised Fritz left at where he’s at in his career I honestly thought he’d stay at Tulane great hire Houston As far as the playoff goes I’m surprised and not surprised at the same time

[@JohnDry]

P5 coaches get paid a lot more than a G5 coaches.

[@JohnDry]

Or shall I say P4, about to be a P3 When at least half of the ACC leave for the SEC, B10, and the B12

[@MrBenitez823]

Dillingham is a stud coach! just needs to recruit. team was decimated by injuries, nearly upset washington in seattle

[@davidbrown386]

ASU will be a likely Big 10 target in a new round of expansion. They have everything the Big 10 wants and now they have AAU status and Ray Anderson is gone.

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

I noticed a few comments about undefeated teams. No undefeated team in a "power" conference has been snubbed in the CFP era. Until now. Please don't mention G5 trash.

[@carsonc29]

being G5 doesnt make them trash..why are people so harsh about non power conference teams? 2 years ago Cincy got waxed by BAMA..but they very well could have beaten every other SEC besides BAMA and UGA..that squad had 9 NFL draft picks

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

@@carsonc29 Cinci would have the lowest talent composite in the SEC that year except I'm too lazy to check Vandy. They were third in their own conference. They aren't on PAR with the P5. Let's not get carried away they can upset a team that doesn't care about playing them once in a while.

[@tarheel7406]

A P5 schedule equates to a strong enough schedule by definition.

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

@@tarheel7406 And FSU played and beat 11 p5 teams. Uga was 8-1, Alabama 9-1.

[@scotthesse3965]

The CFB Playoffs are the Big 10/SEC invitational. All four teams in the playoffs are going to be in the Big 10 or the SEC next year. A 9-3 Notre Dame team with big wins over Holy Cross and Slippery Rocks will be able to crash the party. The Big 12 better come up with something unique to stay relevant.

[@rich4783]

Cardale Jones and OSU beat Wisconsin 59-0 in the Big 10 Championship. If FSU had done the same to Louisville, I am sure that they would be in.

[@petequigley5269]

The difference is Ohio State lost to Virginia Tech in 2014 yet Florida State went undefeated. If you are a power conference undefeated team you should be in. If Florida State won the Big Ten or SEC championship as an undefeated conference champion they would have been chosen.

[@rich4783]

@@petequigley5269 I agree that FSU has a real beef here. But, how does your comment address this statement. If FSU had won 59-0 over Louisville, they would be in the CFP! OSU proved that their 3rd string quarterback could compete. FSU didn't.

[@davidluck3539]

Ohio State lost that year, FSU never did and was jumped by two 1-loss teams after winning its conference with perhaps the best defense in the country. It’s nonsense.

[@joeballs6447]

​@rich4783 OSU LOST. Comparison is moot. Our 2ND string QB would've played in the playoff. Again, moot.

[@williamadams2964]

Indeed!

[@KNIGHT-T1ME]

FSU was snubbed for sure

[@machtschnell7452]

Not snubbed at all. FSU did not have strength of schedule.

[@tarheel7406]

@@machtschnell7452 Undefeated P5 champ. Period.

[@tarheel7406]

@@tarheel7460 You're too dumb to realize what that interpretation would mean for the new BIG12.

[@alaneren9296]

That’s why I hate the 4 team playoff if it was 6 then it would be 1 Michigan 2 Washington 3 Florida State 4 Texas 5 Alabama and 6 Georgia

[@STC987]

How would you have 6 teams? You giving a bye week to the top 2 seeds?

[@wadecockrill3646]

Enjoyed it as always John! Thanks!

[@purpleivory2]

The Crimson needed a hail Mary to beat a team that got smeared by New Mexico State. How come that didn't damage them?

[@MrTadfortitude]

Because of their fan base and how much they bring in to espn in ad revenue. It's not complicated

[@nathangibson2114]

It did

[@SNERFAN]

Cause mickey mouse decided the SEC can't miss the playoffs.. I definitely don't like FSU but feel for their team and fanbase

[@michaeljanuary6511]

PAC-2. Stop it. 😂

[@mikemclendon4962]

The ACC is defunct , the Noles 13 & 0 and disrespected.

[@tommygunzz8117]

The ACC is still the ACC

[@STC987]

Is it too difficult to acknowledge that any conference not named the Big 10 or SEC is in the same boat? Acting like the ACC is in worse shape than the Big 12 is simply avoiding reality. Any school from any conference would join the big 2 in a heartbeat. That means Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, FSU, North Carolina, Clemson and so on. The Big 12 and ACC will be allowed to play with the big boys as long as they want them to.

[@carsonc29]

I think when they do put the 12 team playoff system in place, they need to do how the basketball tourney does....win your conference championship game, you get an auto bid..if they dont do that, you can guarantee that the BIG and SEC are gonna want at least 10 of those playoff spots..which would be a lame playoff format to watch

[@dietrich4808]

They smack FSU for trying to leave the ACC and ESPN. You had to see it coming. ESPN controls the playoffs this year their monies push the needle

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

No, I am not rooting for Texas.

[@nashmonti120]

FSU getting snubbed was basically the loudest nail in the coffin.

[@machtschnell7452]

FSU not snubbed any more than Georgia was. Their strength of schedule did not support them as a top 4 team.

[@aCycloneSteve]

FSU left out of the ESPN Invitational. 😞

[@CouzsCornerSports]

Loving the new look my man.

[@EvilE22]

They just screwed FSU and said ACC doesn’t matter.

[@tarheel7406]

Which also says the new BIG12 won't matter. If a B12 rep voted for BAMA over FSU, that's a B12 suicide.

[@kingpowers93]

If FSU finishes 14-0 they can just claim National Champs like UCF did.

[@SNERFAN]

😂

[@cllintdevena7712]

FSU should have scored style points at 1.45 on the Lou 10 yrd. line. I am sure Alabama's win over Chattanooga put them in the play off.😮 FSU should boycott. There best player's won't even be playing.

[@RobMacQ]

How can any school that cares about football stay in the ACC?

[@tarheel7406]

Or the new BIG12.

[@blackflagnation]

The issue is a little overblown. Was FSU robbed, yes, but had their star QB not gone down, they would have been in. College Football is all about money now, so the CFP committee is looking at match ups that will generate the most viewership and TV sponsor dollars. Anyone who watched the FSU - Louisville game can attest that it brutal to watch. Both teams' offenses were atrocious and inept. No one outside of FSU fans want to watch this crippled team try to move the ball against the playoff teams. It's always been this way - we've seen so many teams get snubbed over the years, we shouldn't suddenly be surprised to see this outcome

[@machtschnell7452]

It was more strength of schedule.

[@grillmaster95]

That wasn't even the QB we would play in the final 4. Our QB2 would be out of concussion protocol by then

[@tarheel7406]

The issue is that we now know that college football is closer to professional wrestling than the NFL.

[@derrickleath1525]

it's not just scoring 50/60 pts ,Team Defense, OFFENSE, SPECIAL TEAMS, that's what Wins CHAMPIONSHIP

[@chucklander5475]

I think the SEC is in trouble. They had to cheat their way to get Alabama in the playoffs. Everyone knows FSU deserves to be in the playoffs.

[@tarheel7406]

For me personally, all of the SEC 4-team playoff appearances now have an asterisk. Overrated members cause inflated schedule strengths confirmed. We now know where all the Cold War era Soviet Olympic judges went. The SEC could have admitted a relatively down year in football yet still claim to be the best, as in context "best" doesn't mean the best every season. The measure of top-level success (frankly the strongest metric) has now been tainted.

[@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982]

We just thought FL ST. wanted out of the ACC before. They may go independent they want out so bad.

[@SNERFAN]

It would only cost them 120 million according to SEC roll call. Can't remember the guys name Matt something

[@dcmoore1959]

The ACC s lined up to be the next Pac-12, expanded playoff or not…

[@tarheel7406]

Next BIG12. Depletion down to the Tier 2 level.

[@williamadams2964]

​@@tarheel7406 Wishful thinking

[@davidbrown386]

ACC is in better shape then the PAC. Why? There are more OSU and WSU level teams that the Big 10 Big XII and SEC do not want. BC, Syracuse, Wake, GT and that is just a start. Add future members James Madison USF and Tulane to that list

[@STC987]

@@williamadams2964 he’s actually spot on but your fandom clouds rational thought.

[@tarheel7406]

@@williamadams2964 Why would I wish for the biG12's fate? There's no purpose for a large and wide Tier 2 conference. BTW... UNC will have its choice of P2s, so I can be objective about the future Tier 2 level.

[@joanmelnick1704]

ACC is in trouble alright. Before long it will be weak to very weak. Maybe even disappear one day. 😂🤑😱

[@tarheel7406]

Near certainty to deplete down to the BIG12's Tier 2 level, but not "very weak".

[@ronelite582]

Maybe if FSU administration did not go into a nuclear rant this past summer, screaming how inadequate their conference is, perhaps they would’ve been chosen by the CFP committee. Its much more about perception than many want to readily accept.

[@god-like]

Not that I agree with the BCS, but the BCS algorithm had Florida State 4 and Alabama 3... So Texas would have been left out in the BCS era.

[@Redscfbreview]

Yeah Fritz won @ Tulane, so that is a great hire for the Cougars. He should have them competing for conference titles in a few years.

[@dietrich4808]

U mean to tell me Oklahoma State is better matchup than Louisville? Damn they won the title with 3rd string QB. Has to be worth something. So the QB was the only player on FSU that had gm? 😮

[@jackandlaneysdad]

Florida State should refuse to play Georgia

[@BrownsBacker]

With FSU trying to break the ACC's grant of rights and destroy the ACC this season, sorry, but I don't feel a bit sorry for FSU. To me, it's karma.

[@tarheel7406]

Some are speculating that FSU's foolish loud barking was a factor.

[@davidmead2529]

3rd string QB Ohio state team can get in but not Undeafted conference champ FSU? Bama and UT have losses and with close wins and they get in? Who did Michigan play?

[@olivercroomes8223]

Dana was the worse coach ever for UH. I was bore and raised in Houston. Graduate in 1991. I have been watching the COOGS like forever. I a glad he is gone. I no longer have knots in my stomach just listening to this guy....Let's go FRITZS

[@thomassweeney4494]

Here is the issue as I see it. Luke Fickell's last year at UC, he was distracted by Wisconsin. Tulane loses Coach Fritz to Houston. Was he distracted as well? I find it quite bothersome coaches are not focused on their teams, who are paid by the college, to lead their team to victory. Seems to be a conflict of interest. Not saying the coaches are not deserving. What are they paying attention to?

[@carsonc29]

I totally agree...I feel the same way about players transferring..I think no coach should be allowed to leave until the bowl season is over (unless they arent playing in a bowl) And I dont think players should be allowed to transfer until after their team plays in the bowl...if you want to leave, ok..but why ruin things for the guys NOT leaving by accepting another job WHILE coaching your current team or transfer and not play in the game that you helped the team to get to?

[@Nebraska-CatFanDanOzzy]

I also like the frosted chocolate fudge, s’mores, and the chocolate with vanilla filling pop tarts! Maybe we need to talk women’s Basketball this year! Great show as always John!

[@wetblanket1977]

Hey snappy if making it to the conference championship game in a rebuilding year is settling for mediocrity, then hey im guilty too Go Pokes! 👈🤠👉

[@tarheel7406]

a) This is about forcing an SEC team in. It just so happens to be an ACC team that was the most vulnerable. b) "There's always next season" is nonsense. It's hard to have a legit natty chance. c) Agreed. If an undefeated current ACC champion can't push out a 1 loss SEC team, no new BIG12 would.

[@vistatiger7493]

Agreed. The Big 12 should be very concerned with this as well. My guess is Texas would not have gotten in without the Bama win and the fact they will be SEC next year. The new 12 team playoff will be 8 or more SEC and B1G teams every year. Book it.

[@davidbrown386]

Look at 2 of the NY6 bowl matchups. Penn State vs Mississippi and Ohio State vs Missouri Big 10 vs SEC

[@JordanEMAW]

Top four conference champs get a bye. Doesn’t matter if there are ten SEC schools ranked over the Big 12 champ, they’ll still get a bye.

[@KSUFatherJ]

FSU was jobbed, but I think people are missing a major part of this. Perhaps the committee is trying to make it as hard as possible on Michigan to win the whole thing. I can't imagine they want the NC vacated. With FSUs QB situation, they are much less likely to beat Michigan.

[@aCycloneSteve]

They should have just made it Alabama, Georgia, Michigan & Ohio State to the ESPN invitational.

[@SNERFAN]

They should have just kicked out Michigan for cheating 😂

[@nathangibson2114]

what a weak take. Louisville threw that game. It was obvious. That's why they were left out.

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

Not in any more trouble than it already was but I understand the desire for clicks. They didn't have much prestige to damage and the 24 pro-SEC, anti-ACC ESPN propaganda machine is not going away. FSU is doing EVERYTHING they can to leave. I guess booster pressure could increase, and should, but likely won't. FSU can't afford to stay in the ACC, and they can't afford boosters cutting off the tap. Seems like more money is going in. Since the snub, 900 new people have joined the NIL collective.

[@benjaminhawkes6693]

But I hope you're right, FSU should just declare they are out. They should forfeit the Orange bowl after taking the field, and ban Kirk Herbstriet from campus for any official activities.

[@DR_X69]

FSU is just further proof that the old 4 team playoff is a joke and not legit. These sort of things should be strictly determined by record and points for and against. Never should be subjective.

[@gregorywhite4345]

John, MHVer3 stand for Major Harris version 3.

[@davidfrost801]

It's still the same B S that has gone on for decades, people talk about fairness and level playing field for college football and its always the same crap. It's just as bad or worse when the sports writers voted based on who did what in which bowl game....

[@jameschapman6825]

Florida State not getting invited reeks of corruption and I have no affinity for that program. I'm boycotting the playoffs. UT beat a team destroyed by UCF and who had struggled since beating OU. FSU beat a #15 team, finished undefeated, and yet they are dropped

[@machtschnell7452]

Jeff Choate going to Nevada to be Head Coach.

[@chriskim4731]

Not a fan of the acc or fsu but this selection committed just turned me off with College football tbh. I may not watch college football again besides maybe bowl games every year. Kinda sick and tired of it

[@randycrownover5580]

If you feel so strongly about it, sure, don’t watch. Especially when you choose the word “sick”.

[@Revolver1701]

The four that made it deserve to be in the playoffs.

[@randycrownover5580]

Minor league envy.

[@tarheel7406]

The SEC is down this year, but not really minor league.

[@shortsallyear8602]

FSU should have been in ahead of Alabama this is just ridiculous. The reason FSU is out because Texas beat Alabama head to head.

[@MrJara1018]

Con job

[@ardentlions6636]

It want get worst you are projecting.

[@rich4783]

It is disappointing that UT only won four Big 12 Championships. But, we are the last Big 12 National Champs and there are only three national championships from the Big 12, one a shared title by Nebraska. UT and OU had to leave. It will be good for both teams, unfortunately, it won't be good for the remainder of the Mid 16. I will continue to root for them, as long as it doesn't affect UT.

[@aCycloneSteve]

You are only the last Big 12 National Champs if the conference changes it's name. 🙂

[@rich4783]

@@aCycloneSteve I really doubt that there will be a Big 12 or Mid 16 National Championship any time soon, more likely ever. Who will it be? BYU and Utah are the only real possibilities and they are unlikely. Also, pay attention to tense. Are is a verb describing a status in the present. Which makes my statement true. Do they teach grimmer at Iowa State?

[@aCycloneSteve]

@@rich4783 You know, I actually posted that I wanted UT to win the Big 12 Championship. It's been 15 years and now that they are in the SEC it might be another 40 years. After all, the SEC is not filled with a bunch a "mid" teams & if you struggle to win here I shudder to think how you'll do there.

[@elvangulley3210]

The committee did its job they got the teams that deserved to be in they weren't going to make the same mistake they made with tcu

[@vistatiger7493]

Huh? FSU didn't lose their championship game like TCU did. 12-0 UGA just lost theirs and didn't make it. Seems like the committee acts and talks out of both sides of their mouths.

[@elvangulley3210]

@vistatiger7493 no they put the best team in over the feel good story. Tcu had no business getting in over Bama last year. They were made to look like fools for that stupid decision. They weren't going to make the same mistake.

[@tarheel7406]

TCU won the first round over MICH.

[@elvangulley3210]

@@tarheel7406 another weak ass team

[@tarheel7406]

@@elvangulley3210 Beating a cheating MICH team evidences deserving the bid. In its overzealous need for playoff representation, the SEC just tainted all of its earlier bids and/or seeding. "Yeah buts" from now until the heat death of the universe.

[@ardentlions6636]

File a lawsuit.

[@zplapplap]

. . . and lose that lawsuit.

[@css31069]

The only lawsuit they can really do is against the ACC. This may be the leverage they need to say that the ACC is a detriment to the program. The conference has cost them a lot of money and opportunity. So it may be able to be used to take them to court and get a deal on that grant of rights.

[@tarheel7406]

@@css31069 No. The case would be against ESPN.

[@AlohaBlockchain]

The best team Florida St. played was Louisville, a team Kentucky blew out. If Alabama were matched against FSU, the Tide would be a 10 point favorite.

[@KileyStansel]

Ummmm LSU? I mean they are a mighty SEC team aren’t they? FSU beat 3 top 25 teams. Do your research

[@AlohaBlockchain]

@@KileyStanselOh, that is why FSU has the #58 SOS in the country.

[@KileyStansel]

@@AlohaBlockchain wins don’t matter I guess and now we penalize a team for not having a player playing. Like I said FSU beat 8 teams going to a bowl game- FSU beat both SEC teams they played

[@AlohaBlockchain]

@@KileyStansel Why don't we put Liberty in the playoffs? They are 13-0.

[@tarheel7406]

@@AlohaBlockchain LIBERTY isn't a P5. Honestly, fool or fraud?

[@mikelally97]

It was a weak year in the ACC this year as well....just like it is every year. No way in Hades FSU should be in the playoffs without their Heisman caliber QB who was largely responsible for beating the best teams on the schedule. I'm a Louisville fan, but Louisville was over-rated this year. Benefitted from one of the most favorable schedules in the nation. A CFP without a rep from the SEC would be deemed illegitimate.

[@amariantiquity8543]

The ACC was 6-4 vs The SEC this year. FSU went 2-0 vs SEC ( LSU & Florida)

[@tarheel7406]

Going into this realignment, the ACC was only behind the SEC in appearances, wins and championships during the 4-team era. As a reminder, the BIG12 had no wins nor championships. As things stand, the new BIG12 has only 2 appearances, 1 win, no championships on top of no appearances in the BCS game since 2000.

[@tarheel7406]

I'll add that excluding the SEC this season would have improved people's faith in the process. After what happened, this season and the prior playoffs have all been put into some question. Even SEC Shorts knows the SEC is down and BAMA is undeserving.

[@jackandlaneysdad]

Love your channel, hate the Chiefs

[@Spitfirethedragon]

Alabama is weaker than Florida State. They almost lost to Auburn and Auburn got manhandled by New Mexico State. Then Liberty manhandled New Mexico State. So, Liberty could beat Alabama. Why do SEC gets preference over other conferences when they could easily be beaten by the top G5 program?

[@zplapplap]

You conveniently forgot to mention the whole Alabama beating #1 Georgia yesterday thing. On the field performance matters.

[@Spitfirethedragon]

@@zplapplap It means The SEC is weaker this year.

[@zplapplap]

@@Spitfirethedragon I agree. But, that doesn’t change Georgia being #1 in the CFB rankings when Alabama beat them in their championship game. ‘Bama moved up, Georgia dropped out. I fail to see the problem, other than Georgia being, perhaps, a bit overrated.

[@delema835]

​@@zplapplap I totally agree. On the field performance matters. Just like it mattered when Alabama, that was on the field performance. FSU did not lose a game "On the field performance matters"

[@zplapplap]

@@delema835 A one loss team beating the #1 team in the CFB rankings in its conference championship game and moving up accordingly, is to be expected. It’s a predictable outcome. FSU falling following a win, was not. We agree that winning on the field matters. Following that train of thought, winning on their field against top ranked teams in championship games matters more, at least for the purpose of ascertaining which teams are presently the best in CFB. After all, championships matter, right? Certainly FSU, as an undefeated power 5 conference champion, would agree. Of course, FSU didn’t have the good fortune of playing and beating #1 on the day before the selections were made. Neither did Texas. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@olivercroomes8223]

Texas is the team that should be out, not BAMA. They beat the number one team in the country. I agee FSU should be in...not Texas

[@machtschnell7452]

How to tell us you do not know Jack about CFP.

[@xavierrendon925]

Sounds like you better enjoy basketball bcuz that's the only thing the big 12 is gonna be worth a damn in

[@Spitfirethedragon]

Texas beat Alabama.

[@shortsallyear8602]

That doesn’t make sense Texas beat Alabama at home by 10.

[@ThatGuyz82]

You ain't very smart... are ya boy?

[@dericparks7242]

Haha HOOKEM HORNS

[@dejure9178]

If FSU had played a schedule rated in the top 5-they would have been in. Instead, they struggled against a Louisville defense that got shredded by a Kentucky team that finished SIXTH in the SEC Division East! So-they proved they were a 7th place SEC team last night. And, the NC State AD Chaired the CFP Committee! So, no shenanigans. The Committee got it right. And, if you need to switch Conferences-go for it.

[@area.man.]

ACC 6-4 vs SEC this year. FSU 2-0. GTFO with this "wElL If ThEy WeRe In ThE SeC"...

[@vistatiger7493]

@@area.man. Exactly. Alabama needed a miracle play to beat Auburn the week before. Auburn a team that just lost 31-10 to New Mexico St. Auburn also had 48 hung on them by LSU who FSU beat. SEC is so over hyped! SEC fans are so full of BS.

[@gregorywhite4345]

John, Alabama is simply a better team and they have a great coach. It’s not anybody’s fault. It’s “the system” man. Quit complaining about Alabama-you look like a whiner.

[@shortsallyear8602]

FSU is 13-0 and should have been in over Alabama. And the ACC has a winning record against the SEC this year.

[@peters822]

The point is that nobody wants the teams to be selected by the "eye test" because it is done to favor the teams with better TV draws. You need to earn it over the course of the season. Alabama very well could be the better team but why play the regular season if the end results are scewed? I like Bama but I don't want the TCU's and Cincy's to get screwed in the future.

[@JamesSmith-vs8nv]

The committee made the rules of being undefeated, and the conference championship game is automatically in the playoffs series. This needs to be seriously addressed because committee members just showed favoritism to the SEC and not the ACC conference champ. College football is looking really dark. Bowl games are going to be meaningless, and star athletes are going to opt out of them because they're looking to get ready for the next level of professional league.

[@JamesSmith-vs8nv]

Should be two national championships to make it more interesting. Not one but two national titles if you are overlooked like Florida State. Divide the championship like college basketball like the NIT tournament. This would make the bowl games more interesting and popular. I know that they're going to the twelve team tournament. This should've been installed a long time ago. I hope that Florida State comes out swinging and represents the ACC conference in good fashion.

[@area.man.]

Alabama has not shown they were better. Do we need to keep bringing up Auburn, Arkansas (at home), USF, Texas A&M, and of course a 10 point loss at home. Then they play a crippled UGA receiver core in the conference championship. Maybe UGA needs to be viewed as a team that wasn't the same due to injuries as FSU was. This joke of a committee still had FSU at 4 knowing Travis was done two weeks ago and FSU continued to win. This was a back pocket excuse they had in the event UGA lost.

[@rich4783]

Hey Mid 16! I can't wait to see you flash Horns down when we aren't even playing you anymore!! haha You don't even know how bad it will be without UT and OU

[@williamadams2964]

We shall see.

[@coreydsousa]

Damn dude, might be a new record, 25 minutes to get on. To a second topic. You need to get to the point quicker.