"The Acolyte" Episode 3: Where everything's through a clouded "from a certain point of view" lens

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[@Oudeis000]

The number of times Thor says “I’ll let that slide” and “I don’t know” and “for reasons” tells me that this is a wreck of a story, something like a mashup of Kill Bill and Frozen perhaps.

[@victorm5890]

I think there were too many ''I'll let that slide'' and ''don´t know'', more like a mashup of The room and Plan 9 from outer space

[@piercedbylight]

Both Kill Bill and Frozen had well thought out stories.

[@renatonovis]

@@victorm5890 Nah, that would be a show I'd rather watch.

[@kodyshaw6991]

​@@renatonovisYou're missing context. The "Mashup of Kill Bill and Frozen" was how Leslye Headland pitched the show to KK.

[@KantokuSpirit]

That's probably the saddest part, we need to let things slide if we want to "enjoy" whatever they are presenting us. I hate having to "turn my brain off" while watching content, because lazy writing is usually the culprit.

[@vonsowards1297]

If the force goes around getting women pregnant, then wouldn’t that make the force…. male?

[@MichaelWarlock]

The show is trash literally the mandalorian is good but this wtf zero sith in the first episode when it's 8 episodes what?

[@LordHollow]

Definitely.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Or they're like Whip-tail Lizards and are all female clones of each other.

[@mustardeater5162]

Pretty sure this episode never depicted the force as female...

[@50043211]

No but lets not go any further then that because its lengthy and annoying.

[@admiralseabass8993]

So far the Jedi in the prequels are looking better by comparison to the Jedi in Acolyte

[@anthonyyoutubefan7567]

Yep. What's more: The Jedi in The High Republic books, comics, and Animated series, are WAY BETTER in terms of overall execution than the ones in The Acolyte. I barely recognize these 4 Jedi, in comparison to The Jedi of BOTH The PT and THR.

[@supremeleadersmeagol6345]

Legends had the Padawan Massacre in the KOTOR comics. This is nothing new.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@supremeleadersmeagol6345And it's been shown earlier that the Jedi would take children against the will of their parents out of fear that they would fall to the Dark Side.

[@admiralseabass8993]

@@Lobsterwithinternet I could care less about anything in Legends.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

People want to make them the bad guys and make up new force user that wields both sides They don’t seem to want to accept the emotional conditioning as a necessity to avoid personal corruption so when they push their fan fiction into official canon they’re gonna basically turn the Jedi into the villains they declare them to be themselves It drives me insane Being a Jedi is a sacrifice, allegorical with striving for the highest of character. No they don’t kidnap children: I know in real life you can’t ask a child to do something like this obviously but the point is it’s necessary to become a Jedi as channeling the force comes with consequences and the republic needs the Jedi to maintain it.

[@ALDO_GOODENS]

Wow, Thor, the tone in your voice is an utter condemnation of this show. This show is so bad that you can’t even muster your usual optimistic, objective voice… Look what Star Wars has done to my boy!

[@troubleondemand7703]

He's done it to himself (Anakin). There are still people out there who are both objective and positive about this show. Thor has just given up and as a result so I have I. I had been subbed to him for a quite a while and I unsubbed today.

[@Starwarslegorob]

IMO this series was clearly created to divide fans and create controversy rather than bring the fandom together!

[@slowmoe1686]

I'm not sure its creating much controversy per se: From what I can see, people are almost universally against this series online.

[@anthroparion]

neither should be the goal of a story teller. Ruin Johnson started that, "it's good if 50% hate it and love it" nonsense. Make good stories, and it will find fans (eg: GoT) - you do not have to set out to bring people together, they will gravitate towards a good series.

[@therecalcitrantseditionist3613]

A decent % of people defend boba fett and shit on andor, some even defend the sequels. the fact people like that exist in the fandom kinda means us all coming together is an impossible dream. Because we want and enjoy very different things that idk are irreconcilable. Seems like the only thing almost everyone agrees on is that kenobi was awful

[@janambd711]

20:20 ...Well, if you're looking for Star Wars with multiple Wookiees with distinctive voices, there is a LOVELY television special that is absolutely **perfect** for you--

[@carolbriscoe9337]

I'd love to see someone, anyone, wearing universal translators!

[@randomguyontheinternet3483]

"we have the right to test your child. With your permission of course." Speaks volumes about the intellect of these writers☠️

[@lightningleopard8877]

Geez I didn’t even catch that, I was to busy trying to figure out how the Jedi are the bad guys and to blame for the inevitable fire by the girl 🤦‍♂️

[@Skolvikes37]

I caught that too and was like something in the writers brain does not compute here lol

[@shannonmcelroy8454]

To be fair, that is how many advocates of certain groups behave in real life. A lot of sellers or peddlers will try to emotionally or intellectually manipulate you into feeling like your integrity and self-worth are questionable if you don't do what you are being asked.

[@drakethesnek6429]

Why the hell would the jedi care about some obscure tribe of force-users? They never bothered to pay attention to the witches of dathomir. The jedi only go after darksiders when they behave in tyrannical ways.

[@StarWarsSegredos]

They probably heard they had "force dyad kids"

[@drakethesnek6429]

​@@StarWarsSegredosno, it's just anti-fanfiction.

[@supremeleadersmeagol6345]

We don’t know the full story here. We know the coven was exiled. Likely they did something to deserve it, which is why the Jedi are keeping track of them.

[@gimzod76]

They were probably messing with the dark side after being told to stop it multiple times. That or snorting ground up Murakami black orchid

[@kurtmccathron3781]

Just one of the ridiculous canon breaking retcons Disney has come up with since taking over.

[@Wayne5002]

Bro, that "shows her his lightsaber" line made me laugh out loud.

[@ryanb9749]

I like how thor is slowly becoming more agitated and irritated the further we go into the story and every time something doesn't make sense it cranks it up a little more.

[@slamdunktouchdown]

“ thank you for your time we leave in peace” - master qui gon I just kept thinking this is how a Jedi wouldn't act. Obeying the will of the force. I miss those Jedi. Qui-gon was a rebel indeed but also cool and collected and let things come to him, or wait for the will of the force to present itself

[@KantokuSpirit]

I really miss Qui-gon, the one that embodied Jedi values the best. Sol kinda looks like he is supposed to be a cheap version of him, but it doesn't work all that well.

[@shannonmcelroy8454]

Plus, Liam Neeson was always a strong candidate for the role because you could always feel his authenticity even when he was having to work with seedy people.

[@justinparker7712]

I don't know how you could get past the witches chanting seen and continue to watch the show. I've seen intro acting classes that were less cringe and easier to watch. So awful. Them saying these scenes are inspired by Rashomon is like a 6th grader saying the play they wrote has hints of Shakespeare in it.

[@CliffJacker]

Trinity referring to the other Jedi as colleagues felt awful 🤣

[@Alpha_bit_co_isa_terror_org]

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[@CaptainSolo1080]

That killed me too, the Jedi just ain’t like that

[@NameNotAChannel]

Remember, in Deisney Star Wars, they also "discuss next steps" and don't do things without "meaningful conversation" in corpor... jedi meetings. They're a busine... I mean, religious order.

[@Alpha_bit_co_isa_terror_org]

In Disney Slop Wars, trainees take out exorbitant loans from the Banking Clan to attend Jedi studies and obtain a highly useful degree in many in demand fields such as... Lesbean Witch History Transspeciesisms Rhetorical Engineering Incorporation and Variant equity Feminist Droid Programming Offspring Conjuration Vergana Mysticism, Microbrewing & Baking Contact your local Jedi College to apply today!

[@pabloj.garcia2559]

Colleague: a person with whom one works in a profession or business. What is the problem?

[@dejanrancic7409]

Jedi in The Acolyte: "With your permission, it is within our jurisdiction to compel you to surrender to us your children if they express the desire to become Jedi, coercion not withstanding, and they pass the Jedi mind test, whether by answering truthfully or us detecting that they're lying." Qui-Gon Jinn: "I could've just gone with that and skipped the pod race?"

[@ryanb9749]

AI force ghost qui gon will say something similar.

[@dejanrancic7409]

@@ryanb9749 If you say so. Personally, I wouldn't know.

[@mpnuorva]

Nope. Anakin had a subdermal bomb that needed to be taken care of.

[@pabloj.garcia2559]

The pod race was to get money to repair the ship.

[@dejanrancic7409]

@@pabloj.garcia2559 Which all made infinitely more sense than what we saw in The Acolyte Episode 3.

[@Starvin-Marvin]

Why were the Jedi even interested in recruiting children too old to start training?

[@MMZERO9]

More than likely they were high on death-sticks.

[@Alpha_bit_co_isa_terror_org]

Because... Reasons! 😡

[@mazkeraid4039]

The Prequel!Jedi (more specifically High Council) did not want to train Anakin because he is too old to be trained, but Qui-Gon Jinn trains him anyway, that is reasonable.

[@jayhartRIC]

Is that possibly a rule that started later?

[@335chr]

@@jayhartRIC Yord literally states in the first episode that OSHA was too old

[@mphoramathe1801]

This episode should have gone: Jedi arrive, see the twins are too old and have attachments, Jedi leave and we all turn off our TVs and go to bed early

[@Nightc1tyronin]

This is the only acceptable outcome lol.

[@Sam_T2000]

I figured it out… it’s an allegory for the perils of IVF, surrogacy, and fatherless homes.

[@l8on675]

Yup, this whole origin is derived from conversations between Leslie and her wife.

[@just_delightful]

And the force then is symbolic of whiteness, and the thread is anti-racism.

[@Sam_T2000]

@@just_delightful - no, you’re missing the point. the show is actually based.

[@mkhud50n]

finally someone gets it!

[@vincentdelmas2792]

What means IVF or surrogacy please?

[@darthcaedus9130]

When my friend enjoys the sequel trilogy, hates this series, you know something is wrong.

[@adamwillis908]

There were Jedi in the sequels?

[@cklambo]

​@adamwillis908 ikr

[@Needler13]

There were no jedi in the sequels

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

The sequels are popular because people think they will pave the way for a “grey Jedi” but the last Jedi by no means invalidates the Jedi, it just doesn’t want Luke to have faith in them for some reason

[@darthcaedus9130]

@@adamwillis908 woops. Thanks for the catch. Comment edited.

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

The creators of this episode of Star Conflicts should look out for the inevitable lawsuit they will be getting from Disney.

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

I thought this was Nebulous Disputes

[@serballista]

I thought this was Cosmic Confrontations

[@katathoombz]

I'm quite sure this ain't _Blood for the Blood God_ 🤔

[@Mr.PepeSilvia]

Damn I thought it was Space Fights

[@absurdyellowdog9700]

This isn’t Planet Battles?

[@Lt_Rik]

Thor, what the showrunner wants to tell you, is that she, as a queer woman never felt accepted in our society, that's what the lesbian witches stand for. This show is made by a political activist, not by an artist, that's why it's so bad and everyone hates it.

[@achaudhari101]

There have been different factions that the Jedi didn’t accept. Don’t know where you got the lesbian allegory from.

[@Lt_Rik]

@@achaudhari101 It gets pretty obvious if you watch just some of her interviews.

[@maxcalder1010]

What’s so bad about an artist drawing from their life experiences for inspiration?? Isn’t that what all artists do?

[@Lt_Rik]

@@maxcalder1010 Nothing at all, I was only explaining, what I think the reason was for that line about the Galaxy not accepting them. Though I don't consider her a real artist to be honest. Look up her previous work on IMDb and explain to me how she was put in charge of one of the most expensive tv shows ever produced. She made Russian Doll, that got a 7,7 on IMDb, which is not a very high rating for a tv show, nothing else worth mentioning. And when you see her giving interviews, it becomes clear what her mindset is about our society, men, etc. It doesn't seem to fit very well with a fanbase (or what's left of it) where white heterosexual Caucasian males are the largest group by far. (Well, not anymore maybe :)

[@ian-flanagan]

@@maxcalder1010 Nothing wrong with it! The problem is stretching the skin of Star Wars too wide.

[@abthedragon4921]

This probably doesn't count and I'm probably wasting time by even typing this comment, but we have seen discrimination in the Star Wars the Old Republic (SWTOR) game from 2011. Most of the time it's between different sentient species. - The Hutts discriminate against the Evocii who's planet they took over after the Hutts' own world suffered irreversible environmental damage. The Hutts literally stole their land, wiped out a lot of their people and put them in low esteem jobs, if they can find work at all. - There's a lore entry on the planet Taris that, to basically oversimply: Taris suffered a massive famine which especially took a toll on the lower classes who, after being pushed to the brink rebelled against the nobility on Taris. The rebellion was quickly crushed and since many of the rebellion's leaders were non-human immigrants, the Tarisian (Republic) government passed a series of anti-alien laws which restricted where aliens could go and barred them from high level jobs. And to top it all off, Republic historians later gloss over this when covering their history. - On Voss there are clashes between the Voss and Gormak species who (spoiler, I guess) are actually the same people or at least a common ancestor. - And perhaps the most obvious example is the Sith Empire which is incredibly xenophobic. Many human imperial officers repeatedly refer to aliens regardless of context as primitive, cursed or some other negative description. One Sith lord Darth Baras when trying to track down a Jedi asks "Is she human or one of the Jedi's cursed aliens?" Heck, the most powerful class of people in the Sith Empire are literally called Sith pure bloods and there's even a Flashpoint mission involving one of these Sith purebloods (Darth Ikoral for those curious) who tries to "cleanse" the Empire of aliens. I'm sure a bunch of people will probably reply to this saying stuff like "it's a non-canon game it doesn't count" or something like that but I'm sharing it anyway.

[@ian-flanagan]

Yeh, I think it's more a question of: should Star Wars be tackling discrimination? Of course discrimination happens; it's almost an unavoidable result of species that exist due to evolution / survival of the fittest, so if you're ever expanding Star Wars storytelling ("mining" the brand), you'll eventually hit it. But that doesn't make it a good topic for a Star Wars story. E.g. People and aliens have sex too, but that's not really a suitable topic. Discrimination is a bit more open to personal preference, but Disney should have foreseen that many fans would not really be interested in that. (Same goes for "there is no good an evil")

[@jayp.4381]

Its a non canon game besides none of those examples involve Jedi.

[@GoobNation]

Yeah discrimination is a big part of star wars but in the context od tge videothere hasn't been any discrimination on sexuality. Probably due to such a huge galaxy would probably have a lot of different cultures with different sexual behaviors. Plus in the EU hutts are hermaphrodites so having a powerful group with a flexible sexuality would probably help normalize other sexualities. The point is that there is no reason to suspect that the witches were discriminated for anything other than their use of the dark side. I mean look at any news regarding high republic books and you'll find stories with gay/lesbian jedi

[@GoobNation]

​@@ian-flanaganthe original 6 movies were more subtle but definitely hinted at discrimination being widespread. Even the clone wars show had many story lines about slavery and the treatment of other species which was pretty interesting. Being excluded in some way is something all people have faced in their lives and connects with many people so I think it being a part of a storyline isn't something most people would be against

[@spartan117zm]

@@GoobNationthat’s probably true but ultimately it comes down to how it’s written, and you hit the nail on the head: the Lucas stories covered it in a more elegant way, Disney however has writers that feel they have to literally spell out 2+2=4. It’s a good topic with a lot of potential depth for a universe with so many different species, but you have to write a compelling story around it, and Disney isn’t known for writing compelling stories anymore.

[@Daemonik]

Sorry Thor. I normally watch every vid of yours, even though im oretty much checked out on star wars. But i couldn't make kt to the end of this one and won't be watching any more about this show. For someone as reasonable as you to say "because reasons i guess i don't know" says it all.

[@20th_century_Ghost]

Imagine coming home from work one day to find half of your stuff is gone and your wife has been replaced with someone else. Then, when you start raising hell, the kids and a few of your neighbors treat you like you're crazy because they don't notice anything wrong. Welcome to Star Wars in 2024, everyone!!

[@Emanon...]

1. What the fuck are you talking about? 2. How does that even remotely relate to Disney Star Wars? 3. Who cares? You got the kids. She can have the TV and sofa...

[@leonardoespino9780]

No this episode in a way breaks the show (for now and for me) not due to lore but to plot. The whole reason why evil twin is going after the Jedi is because the Jedi did something bad AND this episode was made to frame the Jedi as evil and hence why Leslie here was going after the whole “let’s paint the Jedi in a lesser friendly view” but in reality, it’s these witches who are the bad ones by preventing good twin from joining the Jedi on her free will. But the Jedi are the more rationale choice of the story because the reason why the witches left to live here was because the “galaxy aren’t friendly to us”, well why wouldn’t you let a member of your clan to join a prestigious organization that is held high by BILLIONS OF PEOPLE?! And evil twin is in a way the consequence of raising a child with (in a way) lies that the whole world is ought to get them and hence it should be bad towards everyone and her sister who wants to engage with people. So this episode is bad, idk where it’s neither bad or good unless you’re talking about the lore

[@KororaPenguin]

With apologies to Mark Twain, the rules of narrative fiction require as follows: They require that when the author describes the character of a personage in the tale, the conduct and conversation of that personage shall justify said description. But this law gets little or no attention in the _Acolyte_ tale. They require that crass stupidities shall not be played upon the reader/listener/viewer/player as sound investigation and/or threat-neutralization procedures. But this rule is shot with a DL-44 blaster in the _Acolyte_ tale. They require that the personages of a tale shall confine themselves to possibilities and let miracles alone; or, if they venture a miracle, the author must so plausibly set it forth as to make it look possible and reasonable. But this rule is sacrificed to Yun-Yuuzhan in the _Acolyte_ tale. They require that the characters in a tale shall be so clearly defined that the reader/listener/viewer/player can tell beforehand what each will do in a given emergency. But in the _Acolyte_ tale this rule is fed to the Sarlacc.

[@leonardoespino9780]

@@KororaPenguin you mean destroyed by the death star’s laser 🤣

[@E_T_31]

I'm pretty sure "this episode was[n't] made to frame the Jedi as evil", as it completely shows us what Osha & Sol told us before. We still have no clue what rubbed Torbin the wrong way etc. We'll get Mae's (& possibly Torbin's) perspective in a later episode.

[@leonardoespino9780]

@@E_T_31 it’s been described as a “crucial” episode and I would assume due to that description, it has all the perspectives as we also see how both twins interact AND how the people around them besides the Jedi so I can’t be easily swayed as “oh it’s someone’s perspective of events”. Why wait then for a cliché story element if the word “crucial” is being thrown around? By the way, how can we have tornbins perspective when he’s dead? The witches here as I stated on my comments have showed to be hostile so if we were to suddenly showed a scene of the Jedi attacking the witches without provocation…. Why wait for a dramatic revelation when this whole episode was about backstory and it was banking on the idea that here everything will be revealed to understand the show or the plot… but by you saying “oh we haven’t seen all perspectives” it’s like pulling the rug out of our feet and rendering the whole episode just redundant and pointless. Hell, it would have been even more better having the episode more as of flashbacks from both Mae and osha each with their own perspectives and the truth somewhere in the middle than a whole 44 minute episode with just one perspective

[@E_T_31]

@@leonardoespino9780 "crucial" is comparatively non-specific, there can certainly be other "crucial" episodes down the road, which then in contrast show the divide. If this is based on Rashomon, this wasn't it. Also, the trailers show further scenes 16 years ago with Kelnacca attacking Torbin etc. I'm not saying that I fully agree with the story they're telling & how they're going about it, but "this episode breaks the series" is kind of a non-argument.

[@kurtmccathron3781]

Thor, if you keep letting things “slide” eventually your just accepting crap by slowly giving ground

[@ian-flanagan]

I don't think so. You still give up when the slide-count gets too high, so being a little charitable isn't the same as lowering your standards

[@achaudhari101]

You can leave.

[@Lt_Rik]

You can hear it in his voice, he's annoyed that Star Wars is getting worse and worse, but he doesn't want to admit it outright and tries to stay neutral. Which I understand, but I wonder when Disney succeeds to break him. ;) (just kinda joking around, I don't really know him)

[@Maybeabandaid9]

​@@thomasduarte4311It's not like he can't branch out into other tv and movies. You are acting like his opinion is biased by his potential monetary gains. That is pretty low seeing as how its pretty clear he is trying not to be and I haven't even given this show my money or my time other than watching peoples reviews.

[@thorskywalker]

When I say I'm "letting it slide" I mean for the sake of moving on, not that I forgive it. If I went on about every little thing that was wrong I'd still be recording the video.

[@AndyTheGypsy]

you love Star Wars and that's why people connect with you. Sadly, these monsters have hijacked the IP and have poisoned the brand.

[@suzygirl1843]

Guys, it is WRONG to hold onto our childhoods. Millennials have had the privilege of turning their childhood fantasies into an income online but I worry that the hold this generation has had actually is responsible for destroying entertainment because we want things from our past and not allowing new things to thrive

[@yagamifire7861]

@@suzygirl1843 WTF are you talking about?

[@disneyboy3030]

​@@suzygirl1843can you elaborate on it.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@disneyboy3030 Disney's business model is aimed at kids and are making a concerted effort to get rid of older Star Wars fans. Cartoon Network cancelled shows like Generator Rex, Young Justice and Infinity Train because it veered away from their target demographic who are kids/ boys yet these shows were successful with teen audiences and girls. Why cancel successful projects? Star Wars is not meant for adults - George Lucas said this back in 2001. He didn't account for the returning new adult audiences from the 1980s.

[@bentinbama1]

Dude all I hear is copium because this show is terrible. Think about this. One of the strongest dark side users (plagueis) tried to manipulate the force to create life, and couldn't do it. Yet we are supposed to believe so random group of lesbian witches are able to create not one but two extremely powerful force users? Give me a break. The show has destroyed star wars Canon.

[@Rich_H_1972]

Just waiting for a 'it was all a dream' shower sequence.

[@tischvier3880]

Yes!! But the REAL twist is that CGI Bobby wakes up in the shower and tells CGI Pam about how Disney took over Lucasfilm.

[@therecalcitrantseditionist3613]

Im still waiting for the same thing from rey on jakuu. She opens her eyes and it's back to the first force awakens scene. That's my dream. But instead, an unceasing nightmare

[@ahcomeon]

Suspension of disbelief breaks down when the creators don’t pay attention to the simple things like how the twins don’t look alike.

[@ahcomeon]

Or could it be that the creators think all black people look alike?

[@KantokuSpirit]

Looking at the show it was the least of my concerns. I wouldn't care if they were of different race if the rest of the show had good writing at least.

[@foxfire9124]

Or how much stone structures don't burn usually.

[@ahcomeon]

Actually when I think about it, it’s not just that the young twins look different it’s that somehow when they become adults they look exactly alike.

[@ahcomeon]

@@KantokuSpirit you know that we as fans hoping for good writing is like being on the titanic and hoping it’s not gonna sink.

[@johnpoulton9446]

"Henceforth, you shall be known as Yahhss Yaahss."

[@supremeleadersmeagol6345]

Har har

[@Corvonis]

😂

[@jameslikesit]

Darth Yaass

[@Antidoxy]

It's Yaashssin' time!

[@danotto8970]

Well said, not much added up in this episode as there were so many contradictions and vague dialogue. I don’t think it helped that we also don’t have any depth to any of the characters and so I still don’t really get why any of the characters are doing what they are doing (nothing seems very consistent). I know we aren’t going to get all the answers but I don’t feel like we are really getting any answers to what is driving the characters..

[@creativeflowltd]

Thor, correct me if I’m wrong but I feel that Disney Star Wars “invented” people taking their own lives quite often. It happened in TLJ, here, and probably in other series or movies I haven’t seen. I can’t recall that happening in Lucas’s movies

[@SuicV]

It sounds like this episode pretty much does break the lore, yes. Can they explain it such that it doesn't? I suppose, but than they are just deliberately trying to anger the fans, for their own reasons. There's no excusing it if it can only be idiotic or malicious, or both

[@-AtomsPhere-]

We’re a 1/3 of the way through the series and I’m still wondering what the supposed “mystery” is?

[@l8on675]

I just want to know who is the "Acolyte?" I sincerely think they just named it that because thry think it sounds cool.

[@JoRoq1]

That's one of the core problems with this story, it hasn't committed to any clear narrative purpose to tell it. The only truly enduring mystery so far is the identity and intention of the master. Everything else gets revealed (even if only partially, like this episode showing what happened in the past) sometime between 5 minutes later and the next episode. They advertised it as a murder-mystery about some unknown person killing Jedi, and then revealed the answer within the first half of the first episode.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Headland said that this series was inspired by her relationship with her sister. That is one screwed up family!

[@marsoelflaco5722]

​@@l8on675I was wondering the same thing.🤷🏽‍♀️

[@marsoelflaco5722]

There maybe two mysteries. How is Kathleen Kennedy still employed? Why was this rubbish green lit?

[@genghisgahan9623]

Thor, I think you are being very generous with this series-i don't mean that as a criticism, but rather as a reflection on how poor the quality has been these past few years. While not everything Disney has done with Star Wars has been bad- it has been mismanaged to an extent I'd never have thought possible when they took it over. This episode really sounds terrible - this is not some Saturday morning cartoon- this is star wars. How are they releasing this quality of story considering all the money and talent which Disney could access. How is this possible?!?

[@mazkeraid4039]

Simple, because they say something about creative freedom, but all they do is write strictly from the events of ST, OT, and PT in that order. There is The High Republic, but even it is a bit too close to the Prequels timeline wise. Not buying that nonsense.

[@Nightc1tyronin]

Thor won’t be overly critical because he’s still in denial and wants to stay on Disney’s good side. Same goes for Theory, bro just won’t accept that the franchise is completely dead.

[@genghisgahan9623]

@@Nightc1tyronin ah I don't blame him. He tries to be very fair and the destruction of star wars must be breaking his heart. But I do think that if this series did not have the star wars name attached to it, it would just be another one of those crap sci fi series that would come and go, with nobody remembering it. A good star wars film or series should be good in its own right and not relying on the baked in fan base. I think we just need new franchises, star wars has fallen too far.

[@dwarrenmsp]

When the thesis of your story is that there's no good or evil it's just all grey and about "power", I as the viewer have nothing to latch onto. Nothing to root for or get excited for. It just boils down to you saying things to me and all I can say is "ok". What is the point of this show?

[@markinlosangeles9108]

Dear Disney, FOR THE LOVE OF DISNEY, please STOP releasing more episodes of The Acolyte creating more damage to the Star Wars brand and to your own company. STOP the insanity, halt all streaming of The Acolyte, press the "DELETE" button on this entire series and FIRE Leslye Headland!!!

[@Nightc1tyronin]

Leslye is just a symptom of a much larger problem. Disney needs to fire KK first. Honestly, all the leadership at Disney and Star Wars need to be gone. I wish the board would come to a decision and fire all of the executives. Even if they did that, Star Wars wouldn’t magically be fixed. Star Wars needs a complete reset. They need to throw out everything Disney has done and start from scratch. They should take some notes from the EU and follow some of those stories. Even then, I’m not sure there’s anything that Disney could do to save the franchise. I genuinely think that Disney should sell the franchise off to somebody who cares and would listen to the fans. The only way this franchise can be fixed or saved is if a new company takes over.

[@wbfwbl8434]

Wounds are getting deeper and deeper. This show will make a lot of fans flee from Star Wars. This won't end well for SW and Disney. A small group will stay but will there be enough new fans? I don't think there will be new people willing to follow SW like the old fans who brought their brothers, sons, grandkids etc. Honestly SW are REALLY DYING. New generations have a lot more stuff to like or fall in love with. The old days are ending. Old fans won't bring new and the new ones won't give as much as the old with their descendants. Could the franchise be revitalized? Yes but it won't get as high as during the pic of G.Lucas years or the hype of 2015. Disney SW will be like Dr WHO just on much bigger scale. The fall will be gigantic

[@NisGaarde]

These shows just keep getting worse and worse. It's really quite impressive. I don't even care about the lore stuff. Just the writing and acting. Burning stone walls? Just to name one thing. It's so dumb. Low-effort.

[@achaudhari101]

Lore is important.

[@thoseclipsyouvebeenlooking1289]

Hey Thor! I appreciate that you watch and review these shows so I can be more aware of it without actually haven’t to watch it (and not give Disney my time, money, and views). Thanks for taking one for the team. Your voice tone in this video sounded like you were annoyed and just trying to get it over with. Question: If you didn’t have a Star Wars themed KZbin channel and need stuff for content, do you think you would still be consuming Star Wars or do you think you would be checked out (like so many of us) by this point?

[@ALDO_GOODENS]

I’m pretty sure that he’s recently said that he would check out.

[@Loki_Yogi]

No, he hasn't said he would've checked out. He's been very consistent in saying that he always hopes for better writing, etc.. BECAUSE of his love for Star Wars. Plus, he's literally the most balanced SW KZbinr I've ever seen. Probably due to his Jedi skills.

[@mazkeraid4039]

@Loki_Yogi He's going to realize that Thor is falling into Kennedyfilm's trap. He just doesn't know it yet.

[@root13pie]

Thor enjoys and praises the animated shows, some of the books, and Andor, even though most of the live action stuff is mediocre at best. So to him, and I agree, star wars content is a mixed bag. However, it makes sense that those of you who only watch the live action shows would be checked out by this point.

[@TheSlackrguy]

Great synopsis. Thanks for not being histrionic about it. Appreciate that approach.

[@ChrisPierce-y1r]

They spit on anakin and him being the chossen one i hate them ugh

[@jamesneese7663]

Women are real chosen one. Didn't you get the memo..?

[@leewalker8207]

Lucasfilm must hire the best plumbers in the world with all the money they flush down the toilet...

[@Nightc1tyronin]

I’m genuinely starting to wonder if this is some sort of money laundering on their part. There’s absolutely no way that Disney spent 180 million dollars on this shitty, lazy, ugly, badly written, cheap looking show. I refuse to believe it lol.

[@noxiabathys]

Thor is was a great video, I would love to see more like this for the future. It’s a good to show what you’re talking about and having a conversation about it. Love the vids keep it up. Would love to see you on EFAP someday just talking about Star Wars.

[@chancellor500]

Here we go.

[@danielbadillo8334]

I'm very much convinced that the twins mother (the one with the horns) looked at the reactor as a means of framing the jedi. She probably messed it up to blame them and cause the coven to oppose them. She obviously didn't want to lose the kids and she was not present amongst the dead

[@benz3685]

I wanted to like this show - I want to like every Star Wars show. But, IMO, this has been by far the worst one.

[@astrolord4325]

The way you described it. Well i couldn't shake the feeling that this scene of who has power, the witches or jedi backed by republic law, was how "karens" would write a conflict. Mostly talk, all bark no bite. And that's how they have written jedi, as very entitled. Entitled to do whatever the hell they want, even though it shouldnt make sense considering their culture work ethics. Which is just "karen" mentality, their view on how so called power works. Maybe i am wrong but thats my take on why it was so confusing.

[@enzomarra3764]

This is unwatchable series

[@achaudhari101]

Debatable.

[@stevena.7022]

25:22 Don't go along with this Rashomon bs. Lipstick on a pig. Something with multiple POV of the same event may be called a Rashomon style sequence but to say it resembles anything here is well... a pathetic attempt at feigned respectability. Star Wars was heavily based on Hidden Fortress and Disney has been dusting off Kurosawa's frozen head for clout ever since Ryan Johnson's TLJ press disasters. Plus it's like every Acolyte shill just learned this name in the last 24hrs.

[@pablogamberomasson-qg2px]

I loved the part where mother Anisea turns to one of her daughters and says "Mae the force be with you". I always wanted to know the origin of that.

[@Poptalkandaliens]

lol. This comment deserves more likes. Well played

[@jedijosh707]

It absolutely destroys the canon, not that I consider this canon at all.

[@pufffincrazy5275]

Can we agree to throw out all Star Wars from the Disney era except for Rogue One and Andor?

[@Nightc1tyronin]

@@pufffincrazy5275Ugh I wish we could throw it all away tbh. Disney just needs to sell the franchise to another company who will actually do something decent with it or listen to the fans. This franchise will never become good again under Disney’s ownership.

[@dan_hahn]

honestly the... I guess hate-hype surrounding this episode really over sold it lol. This was a total nothing-burger of hand wavey ... meh. There wasn't really enough to work with to even muster up that much feeling toward it--let alone hostility

[@suzygirl1843]

Dude, grow up. Disney is for kids

[@alexanderwoodbury5593]

Hey Thor, I’m 99% sure most of this episode’s end is what the Jedi told Osha, and the twist will be that the Jedi did slaughter these witches and were there to take the children - because they were looking for the chosen one. These horrific events will push the Jedi 100 years from now away from perusing the prophecy - and correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Qui-Gon Jin among the only Jedi even remotely interested in it at the time? Almost as if it got them in so much trouble internally that it was best for the order to simply avoid the idea altogether. And this is all really dumb, of course and totally world breaking. Maybe I’m wrong - would love to hear your thoughts!

[@btr3k]

Also for what it's worth, when Osha escapes from her room, she looks up at some grate where she can hear some gasps - I assume that's the witches being slaughtered (though it doesn't really sound like that). Unless I'm missing what this is supposed to be? Smoke inhalation maybe? It happens before the reactor blows up, regardless.

[@BearthatBaresFoodinBelly]

She did get knocked out, so they may have mind wiped her. We'll find out and that's the worrying part. The episode didn't provide too many clues about what happened which means that any crazy over the top "the Jedi can be evil to" thing can happen. That combined with the track record of these shows, if the show runner has a crazy idea, I don't think anyone would step in and stop it (ex Reva trying to kill Luke was one of the dumbest plot lines I have ever seen in any Star Wars media)

[@Janx14]

@@BearthatBaresFoodinBelly Sol's definitely established to have some potent mind powers...when he decides to use them.

[@kabirarya5381]

That's the only way this episode makes sense, as I think it doesn't make sense in any other conceivable way. Even still there would be so much wrong with how the jedi and the witches acted, but at the very least it would be more sensical than whatever the hell this episode was.

[@wesley8616]

Let's just say the writers do not really understand SW and is trying to write SW. The writing overall is subpar.

[@wesley8616]

Writers: Don't touch the thread. Then pull the thread to change your destiny. Writers: JEDI use the force/thread when they should not. Then witches use the force to push each other around? And then CREATE two children with it? What kind of confused writing is this?

[@malkmuslistener5459]

all of it sounds like nothing fun, like SW used to be.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

I mean, "stop copying me" is why kids would typically get annoyed when another kid does the same thing they did.

[@packermaster521]

One thing I've found while watching these reviews (I'm not watching mess,no matter what) is that this show seems/sounds SO BORING. So regardless of all the controversy, trolling, canon- altering issues, one main issue is the bland, lame, boring story itself.☠️💀 So sad to see this franchise been hacked /kidnapped by a group of inept people.

[@Kevin_Street]

I didn't love the episode, and I'm definitely not a fan of this show. But the third episode did exceed my low expectations, so it was a slightly pleasant surprise. And think I have a few answers for points you raised: Osha's story is definitely supposed to be reminiscent of Anakin's. I don't know if she was created by midiclorians or anything, but narratively Osha occupies a similar position. She's currently powerless but has great potential in the force (seen as a miracle by the witches), and the force has inspired her to dream of greater things, despite her environment offering no hope of escape. Then a wise Jedi (Sol) appears, who sees her potential and takes her away. I don't think the Jedi are really sure why they're on the planet. The force told them to go and they went. When they arrived they discovered the little colony of witches and assumed that was the reason for their presence. If the witches tell them to leave the Jedi won't just go away because the will of the force brought them there. As a force sensitive herself, Mother Aniseya understands that this situation has metaphysical complications and she can't just throw them out. I totally forgot about that scene where Koril checks out the reactors. Good catch, Thor! That gives me an idea: what if the Sith from the first episode is already on the planet? Maybe THAT'S the reason the Jedi were called there, because he's going to manipulate events to get himself a potential apprentice. They don't know the Sith are still around and don't really understand what the force is trying to tell them. The witches clearly believe the Jedi will take their children, and Indara plays upon that belief to get them to allow the children to be tested. That whole "with your permission" thing was her saying we don't really need your permission. I know you won't like this, but if we don't make that assumption the scene is senseless. Now maybe it's a bluff and Indara is just taking advantage of their fears, or maybe this is a retcon and they're saying the Jedi can seize force sensitive children in certain situations. I don't know. But the implication that they can drives the rest of the plot. I don't know what mother Aniseya is really up to, but I hope we'll see that she has some kind of plan more complicated than just telling the children to fail their tests. I think she's more concerned with the survival of the coven than the wishes of her children, and from that perspective the arrival of the Jedi is a defeat because their existence is no longer hidden. Whether the children pass or fail, she's probably decided to move the group to another planet already. If the story is smarter than I think it is, she may be feeling both the presence of the Jedi and the mysterious presence of the Sith, and is stalling for time until she can figure out what's happening. But I might be reading more into her than what's actually there.

[@OtherSideOfFlat]

Idek how you stomach watching the destruction of this IP. Star Wars is dead, and Kathleen killed it. Trying to give props or kudos is just silly.

[@E_T_31]

In that little thirty second teaser from a couple days ago, we see Kelnacca attacking Torbin, so that's probably where the scar came from. Maybe the witches warged into the wookie to harm the other Jedi.

[@Nightc1tyronin]

Keep it real Thor. It breaks lore and the show is absolutely horrible. There’s not positives about it at all. Disney has broken cannon quite a few times now. We all know that this show is pushing political messages, stop denying it and acting like we can’t see it. I’m so tired of your fence sitting and cope.

[@BRONZALiVE]

Sol is easily the best part of the show, I kinda wish It was just Daphne Keen as the main character, SOL as her master, and Karrie Ann Moss (matrix) who was stupidly killed off, like them 3 keeping the murder mystery aspects but more Jedi focused and well written, doing this I feel would’ve been better. The whole twins aspect and the witches and mothers are just not it for me

[@Shadow05eth]

Btw, I haven't seen anyone talk about it but they both are too old to join the Jedi order... Anakin's age was a big deal in the prequel and they look about the same age he was. I know it's just another inconsistency on a pile of garbage but still, if we think about it, they just took Anakin's story and made him two characters instead of one. Too old to start training, conflicted about leaving his family, turns to the dark side... They just split it into the twin that stayed and fell to the dark side and the one that joined the Jedi and turned to the light.

[@simonjandrell5897]

Complicated?? Did not Understand it?? nothing to do with the Star Wars World or George Lucas.. so all very Pointless

[@WheresMyFish]

This show is such a waste… the writing is just garbage and the acting is flatter than a board. Also, I love that the writers took a black character and had them be a violent murderer that destroys their community and then blames others for her mistake… way to enforce a negative stereotype Disney.

[@Dragontrumpetare]

Why do you have to be so diplomatic about this episode not even star wars theory could be. I'm kinda impressed. I havent seen it myself to be honest. Everything i hear is radical feminism ideology in this third episode. They talk about power Dynamics wich is a feminism talking point. So to be frank impressed you cant see the problem within this show. For me this episode do destroy Star Wars for me, seen so much from this episode to say its ok.

[@faw7858]

I am wondering why you are still so chill about all of this. After all the trash we got, star wars is in a very bad place and they keep ruining it. So sad.

[@verazollinger6862]

I was looking to your video!

[@Mr.Lunafish]

Please continue doing this format. That way I can know just how stupid this show is getting without having to actually watch it.

[@mordengrey6423]

So. My wife is only half paying attention to this show...and she said, "The poison merchant is Mae's Master, Koril killed all the witches and framed the Jedi." Huh. Well that's that. I still want the witch's catchy song as my ringtone. It's ALMOST as good as Ring of Power's halfling song, 'Nobody walks alone! Nobody goes off trail!' THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

[@delsonmcgriffin1989]

wtf was this episode

[@Alpha_bit_co_isa_terror_org]

Marxist propaganda done by a rank amateur.

[@suzygirl1843]

A return to form. Don't you remember The Phantom Menace?

[@Alpha_bit_co_isa_terror_org]

Marxist propaganda done by a rank amateur.

[@tkirby]

The beginning of the scissorverse

[@Emanon...]

Fleshing out character backgrounds through a flashback. It's a well known storytelling trope and has been used throughout TV including some of the best shows ever made. You hate the show, we get it. Then stop watching. Unless you enjoy your raging hateboner. No kinkshame from me, but at least have your comments make sense...

[@alexanderneumann960]

I feel like it's a waste of my time to get angry about this stuff, but nonetheless two things that just really annoy me: 1. Forget Star Wars, the ability for mortals to create true life is world-breaking in ANY fictional universe, unless under extremely specific circumstances or it's integral to the foundation of that universe. 2. Magic continues to make no sense in Star Wars. I'm willing to excuse the Nightsisters, seeing as it seemed like their magic was tied to their species and/or the planet itself (which I guess Ahsoka changed, so I dunno...). But now there are potentially any number of non-Jedi/Sith force-wielding factions. Is this 'magic' just a facet of the dark side? Is it separate from Light and Dark? If they can create true life, it would seem like it would be separate from the Dark if Plagueis and Palpatine had so much trouble with it later. It would also be separate from the Light if Anakin's existence is such a mystery to the Jedi. My understanding is that the Force is pretty split between absolute good and evil, with the Jedi and Sith being morally good and evil (though I haven't studied every bit of lore, so I'm willing to be wrong here). I'm just not really sure how 'magic' is justified in this universe. And why does it have to be? The Force is something unique to Star Wars; leverage that to have different people come to different understandings of it, not co-opt it into some kind of tangential magic system that often conflicts with Jedi and Sith teachings (who would typically be the highest authorities on it anyway, having generations of study and instruction and records). TL;DR - I don't understand magic in Star Wars. Not that I am against the concept entirely, just that it's so vague as to be kinda pointless.

[@StoneCBears]

The whole season sounds so boring.

[@john2001plus]

Osha wanting to be different and live a different life seems like a trans metaphor. Her decision is so controversial that her sister thinks that she is crazy and wants to kill her.

[@JoRoq1]

No, this is a valid thing for identical twins (or triplets, etc.) to go through. Particularly if they are dressed identically on a regular basis. Growing up they are nearly always together, and most often seen as a paired unit rather than two individuals. People don't do it maliciously, but it is a natural first response amplified by Hollywood and pop culture inaccurate tropes. I have now-grown identical twin daughters, and around this same age one started wanting to establish her individual identity while the other was still wanting to stay paired. It caused conflicts on not a few occasions, though not to the point of attempted murder. Eventually they worked it out as they began truly taking up different interests and directions (as opposed to choosing something just for the sake of being different).

[@Alpha_bit_co_isa_terror_org]

Person: I'm gonna live my life the way I want! Sibling: Then I'll end you! 😡 Wow that escalated quickly... I mean it really jumped up a notch!

[@akumaking1]

If you still haven’t realized that Disney is evil, you’re crazier than the Joker.

[@BRockIITWi]

Matthew 5 8 For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you evil spirit!" 9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” SW Acolyte "The power of one. The power of two. The power of many "

[@akiyoshikiyonari8988]

There's nothing vague. They ruined the franchise. May the thread be with you.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

This going to sound stupid (but still better than it could be), but what if there aren’t actually twins , and one of them is all in the other’s head? Like, you get to the end of the show and the big reveal is that either, there were twins but one did die in the fire, and now the other is having a mental breakdown, and now the dark half of her is using the memory of her sister to drive her actions Or, There was only ever one daughter and the other was a force projection as a means of manifesting her internal struggles of loneliness and conflict with the witches way of life.

[@Valen-mh9fh]

Have you not seen Fight Club (if you haven't, check it out, it's excellent and very well edited).

[@betterlatethannever4529]

@@Valen-mh9fh it’s on my list of films to watch.

[@darkguardian1314]

It's all over... There is no undoing it. Won't even waste time gloating on their failures in reviews.😢

[@zerolegacy7821]

That's a REALLY good point. If those twins have been locked in a cult since birth, force fed a single agenda, how does Osha even KNOW about the Jedi, much less why would she want to be one...?

[@SheevTheSenate]

I think mother anasaya’s mind control will be the reasoning for the Jedi killing all the witches. In one of the trailers (I don’t remember exactly which one) we see Kelnaca going berserk and fighting the Jedi on that fateful night, and in another trailer clip a large furry hand is holding Torbins head to the ground/a wall and pressing hard, seemingly attempting to crush his head. It also happens to be the side of his face that is scarred/has a dead eye when he is older. This may explain why Kelnaca is no longer with the order, and Torbin does something after or before his fight with Kelnaca which causes him to have regrets and take the barash vow/kill himself.

[@darko-man8549]

I’ve got a crazy hypothesis: What if, in “showing the Jedi to be bad,” Leslie has written these twins as “the original chosen ones” and because of “stupid Jedi” these chosen ones are never blossomed so the Jedi screw up balance?

[@raekm]

How isn't this episode the most destructive ever? It basically undid the Skywalker saga. That besides all the usual woke bullshit

[@Wyr_111]

Just finished the episode, and all i can really say is "what the fuck did i just watch?"

[@jayp.4381]

The whole concept of cloning and immaculate conception is just getting ridiculous and out of hand now. Might as well change the name of Star Wars to Star Clones.

[@MetalGamer666]

The way they tried to fail the test was pretty stupid, and if the sister that did it first did it the same way, it would be easy to know that she was lying. Basically, when you have a tablet with an image on it turned away from the kid you're testing, and you ask the kid what's on the screen, a normal kid would say that she can't see the screen or something like that.

[@lasercraft32]

This show feels like its leaning towards anti-jedi propaganda, and I don't like it.

[@Pelicanzzz]

I bet that's just getting started

[@kabirarya5381]

blud the jedi aren't real, I assume at most they just want to show jedi aren't perfect which we already know from the prequels.

[@sealcaptn]

They are absolutely setting these twins up as one actually died and the other one is a force projection from her mind

[@ian-flanagan]

Without watching the show, that's what I've been saying: the Fight Club twist. So far, the only thing conflicting evidence is the young Jedi saying "She didn't do it; I saw her", so perhaps something will be revealed about him to invalidate that.

[@Lt_Rik]

There is going to be some boring redemption ark for the "bad" twin. Because all she wanted was to stay with her lesbian space witch family and the "good one" fucked it up, by wanting to join the evil Jedi. I hope I'm getting this right, I have only watched youtubers shitting on it so far.

[@Valen-mh9fh]

I've heard that too but (not watched it personally) some of the dynamics/editing/filming don't work well for a split personality situation. It's also weird that it's manifesting at this point in time, six years after leaving the Order. Not sure what the trigger would be (in Fight Club it was his insomnia I believe?).

[@MAXXWORX]

If it is a projection like it Johnsons Fan Fiction Last Jedi movie, then she would not be able to touch or be touched, less alone throw knifes and kill people. But what the hell. The writers of this story, as far as i understand, don't even know what Star Wars is, so Headfuck hired them, that is why the Squid-Game-Jedi is not able to hold both kids in the air with the force but jumps to grap one of them. Because the writers don't know anything about the world or characters they write for.

[@01talima]

i guess that fire in space wasnt just sloppy it was set up for the increased powers fire has in this universe ;)

[@robinthrush9672]

10:00 Sub-text is why. Also the interviews promoting the nature of the show.

[@LewisPulsipher]

KK never cared about Star Wars, she just wanted an existing franchise to be her platform for her political views. Headland uses SW as a platform for her own stories, and doesn't care if the stories don't fit canon or the "spirit" of SW. And the writers in this case are incompetent, evidently.

[@Nightc1tyronin]

10000% on the make with this comment. I wish Thor and Theory would just come out and say it as well. I’m tired of them constantly fence sitting and acting like there’s some positives in these shows. Every single piece of media that Disney has done for Star Wars has been god awful and solely driven liberal propaganda narrative pushing. I hate that this is what star wars has become.

[@22infection]

So the beta jedi that killed himself said they thought they were doing the right thing. This episodes they didnt do anything wrong. The evil twin started the fire which caused the place to fall apart. If the jedi killed everyone they killed a tribe of dark force users who manipulated the force which destroys balance.......

[@Rumple108]

Calling him a beta male is too kind

[@bigorange2082]

It does break the lore. Qui Gon reacts to Anakin not having a father in almost a miraculous way. He says finding him was the will of the Force. How can we think of Anakin’s birth as a miracle now if 100 years ago a group of witches on a desolate planet created TWO babies. This completely erases Anakin as the chosen one.

[@Nightc1tyronin]

Exactly. Not sure why some people are acting like this isn’t a massive lore break. Thor is fence riding once again. This show sucks and is straight up disrespectful to George Lucas, Anakin and all of the other Jedi. It’s such a massive plot hole that Disney will never try to fix. Once again, Disney is undermining the OG characters in favor of their new inferior characters. God forbid the chosen one “Anakin Skywalker, a human male” outshine the stunning, brave , lesbian, powerful woman of color Mary sue that Harvey Weinstein’s assistant dreamed up.

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

This episode was bad besides the few scenes with Sol where he was supposed the episode was unwatchable it didn't even feel like Star Wars for most of it and decided to mess with the continuity a bunch. I have watched almost all of the current Star Wars content and (with the exception of Resistance) this is the first time I have actually considered turning a Star Wars project off. And talking about the scenes with Sol I feel like the actor played the scene wrong because I feel like in the script he was supposed to be manipulating her to join the Jedi but the actor is such a nice guy he made it feel like he cared and was a real Jedi.

[@oldcur]

The difference between this and Rashomon: Rashomon made sense.

[@diegominero29]

Magical women talking about the Thread for an specific destiny sounds like the moirai, of course, but it also specially makes me think of watered down Aes Sedai from The Wheel of Time: "The wheel weaves as the wheel wills"

[@Rumple108]

I felt the Aes Sedai vibes too

[@forsetylord]

Just when you thought Star Wars was at the bottom of the well, out comes this.

[@russmcafee6066]

I truly never thought something could be worse than the last jedi im sad i was wrong

[@2GuysTalkingPodcastNetwork]

I think Osha was injured by negligent script writing. Pretty sure.

[@just_delightful]

At the beginning of the episode, mother A forces them to become witches, later in the episode mother A says no one's going to force you to do anything and it's your choice. What terrible writing.