The biggest issue isn't even what you'd think with "The Acolyte" Episode Three

[@bayushiteishiru6291]

The Force made Anakin in response to the Acolyte script.

[@viniciuscardoso8056]

Its a knightmare and anakin only see wrong things

[@blazingmonolith4323]

"Disney makes content for an audience they wish they had, while disrespecting the audience they already have." -Alan Ng

[@JoeChillton]

who's that?

[@norbertlauret8119]

@@JoeChillton kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4CpdHlnh8eUqLs

[@jamesneese7663]

Mr Ng clearly UNDERESTIMATES Lucasfilm's foolishness. Lucasfilm clearly learned NOTHING from TLJ and are trolling the fandom again with "subverting expectations"

[@zxyatiywariii8]

They're failing even there. Disney would take one look at me and think "You're the audience we want!" But I love the REAL Star Wars, not this Disney trash. Disney thinks all women of color are Borglike hiveminds who spend time chanting and cackling like maniacs.

[@internet2055]

📜"a good novel tell us the truth about its hero, a bad novel tells us the truth about it's author"

[@heyerlaw]

That was profound

[@MetalGamer666]

I didn't know anything about the show runner when I started watching it. I quickly started to wonder if it was a lesbian woman due to the heavy handedness of a group of lesbian witches having children together without any men. Bingo!

[@庫倫亞利克]

The version I heard is "Good stories reveal something about the world, bad stories reveal something about the author."

[@pabloj.garcia2559]

​@@MetalGamer666 That would make Filoni a lesbian too?

[@anthonyyoutubefan7567]

@@pabloj.garcia2559 Absolutely not. Dave Filoni has had nothing to do with this production. His name is not to be found on any of the credits. The Acolyte was first the brainchild of Headland and Kennedy, around 2018. Headland herself recently admitted that she had already picked Amandla Stenberg as her ONLY choice to portray Mae and Osha, even though Stenberg hadn't been asked or contacted yet; which was before 2020, when Kennedy announced the show. Dave Filoni has no involvement in any content connected to The High Republic Multimedia Initiative, which was first proposed by Kennedy to Pablo Hidalgo (which he revealed over a year ago), around 2014, when The EU was renamed Legends. Since 2018, when the Project Luminous Writers Summit happened at Skywalker Ranch, Filoni's name has not been connected to any of the content produced: Not the books, the comics, the animated series (Young Jedi Adventures), or the upcoming video game, Star Wars: Eclipse. Filoni's been busy with The Clone Wars (Final Season), beginning, Star Wars: Resistance, The Mandoverse (which includes The Bad Batch), Tales Of The Jedi, and Tales Of The Empire. There's also a strong rumor that Filoni and his creative team of Jennifer Corbett and Brad Rau will be doing a follow-up Animated series, depicting the struggles of both The Clones and The Hidden Path. The only reason Dave Filoni is making appearances regarding the PR for The Acolyte, is because, since 2022, he's been given the title, Chief Creative Officer For Lucasfilm Ltd.; which means, he's the primary face for the creative side of content released to the public. He's showing his face in support of the latest Lucasfilm Ltd. product...nothing more. The Acolyte has been in production for 4 years, since 2020. Filoni was in no position to critique or alter miniseries Showrunner Leslye Headland's work, since that show was given to her by Kathy Kennedy personally. Truth be told: I wouldn't even consider The Acolyte to be representative of most of the content related to The High Republic. None of these characters -- except one -- exist in the books, comics, and Animated show. Plus, this particular story takes place literally during the last weeks or days of The High Republic Era... Filoni's overseeing role as CCO won't become apparent, until around 2025, when new content is greenlit. Much of what We've seen, was started by Kennedy & Co. Most likely, Skeleton Crew will be a hint of the future, since that show was the brainchild of Jon Watts and Chris Ford, then Jon Favreau, who quickly brought Dave Filoni in to the fold. I know in my heart, Skeleton Crew is going to be a completely different series; free from unnecessary controversy and antagonism towards the general (male) fan base.

[@verazollinger6862]

It feels like Disney is doing this just to spite little fans they have left..

[@_lisan_al_gaib]

i think kathleen kennedy is like bonnie ross at 343 (the studio that made the last 3 halo games), a corporation has a woman as figurehead but is actually incapable of being a leader, the figurehead hires people that are incompetent as well just because they share broader viewpoints on cultural things, hilarity ensues

[@authorjoannawhite]

It literally seems that way. It's so weird. It's like they continue to try to intentionally do things to make fans hate it

[@tw19771]

I'm starting to wonder if they are going by the philosphy of "Any press is good press" and doing their best to press the buttons of the prejudices that they think the fans have. If you remember the first TFA trailer and Disney's first pitch with Star Wars. Showed Finn taking his helmet off as a stormtrooper. Knowing it would cause controversy in the fandom. Then later on he was deleted from the promotional posters in China. When you really think about Disney is only worried about representation when they feel its to their benefit and making money. If it doesn't they won't, but they find all the complaints that journalists latch unto from the fans as perpetual advertising for the brand, and they don't care how bleak that is. After all its the fans that take the hit, not Disney. The Fandom Menace is being trolled and played.

[@realBatman-89]

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[@anovaguy]

​@_lisan_al_gaib a lot of people find success by faking it until they make it, but plenty more fail in the process. Kennedy should have been a failure many projects ago, but is being propped up for reasons

[@Farb_dk]

2:14 “Yeah Lesley do whatever, just don’t make it like suuuuuuper obvious so if we want to retcon it in the future it’ll be easier k”

[@MetalGamer666]

"Hold my yoni egg!"

[@seeerr5570]

In an alternate universe, Disney will have actually created star wars that remained true to Lucas's vision and made tens of billions of dollars

[@pufffincrazy5275]

In an alternate universe, every 61 seconds in Africa, a minute passes

[@JustVic-92]

In an alternate universe, Star Wars wasn't sold to Disney in the first place. In an alternate universe, Disney still focused on animated family movies instead of swallowing every bit of media landscape it can grab.

[@Piratesi666]

And everyone would still be complaining.

[@cookowl]

@@pufffincrazy5275 great joke!

[@BibFortunasBarber]

@@Piratesi666nah, it’d be a lot less cause they would have actually tried to please fans. Unlike whats actually happening.

[@miragewizard]

Episode 3 of The Acolyte should be played in it's entirety at the next Disney shareholders meeting.

[@benz3685]

The fact that a substantial part of the fan base is going to liken the “creation” of the twins to that of Anakin Skywalker (a blatantly obvious and avoidable point of contention) should have been enough reason for the show runner and writers to just plain avoid that plot point.

[@seeerr5570]

Exactly... whatever their intent, it was clear to see how it would be seen.... and only an idiot would further incense an already pissed off fanbase

[@jacobdavis6916]

Like I mentioned in a previous video, I fear this is intentional rage bait. People point out that, no this shouldn't work and get the attack hounds sicked on them for hating women because "it was fine for Anakin but not the Twins". I don't WANT to think that, but man does it resonate with everything else that has been said/done.

[@pabloj.garcia2559]

I agree that it might be avoided to be in a safer ground. But we really want Star Wars to avoid all risk. George took some with the prequels, then...well, he was hated for that, but not now. If the risk of Leslie Headand ends being good and adding to the Lore, maybe we will like It when its not a surprise anymore.

[@deonte9014]

So in other words a substantial part of the fanbase isn't very bright and lacks media literacy. Totally not surprising

[@BibFortunasBarber]

@@deonte9014yeah the woke need to do better. Its pretty obvious they’re pushing an agenda that the majority of normal People dont agree with.

[@Loki_Yogi]

For me, it comes down to respect. The season isn't complete yet, but the way this show is going, "I have a bad feeling about this."

[@jacobshraim4231]

Dude. It’s dead. Don’t give it a chance and they’re blaming the fans as always. Walk away and never look back.

[@DZatheus]

Why would the Jedi go to recruit 2 obviously too old children?

[@Deuteromis]

Disney Shill: Well how do you know they didn't recruit children that old before they changed the rule?

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

@@Deuteromis I mean thats why they made the high republic so they could just handwave any inconsistencies with their own rules

[@discobroccoli198]

Better than them learning some potentially dangerous witch magic if they stay in the coven.

[@DZatheus]

@@discobroccoli198 the Jedi are not the gatekeepers of the force, they never were.

[@JerardKal]

@@DZatheuswhile true, they DID stop dark side groups when they popped up and proved a threat to the galaxy

[@GSOG2]

That Tolkien quote is actually in the Silmarilliom describing that Melkor/Morgoth cannot create life

[@viniciuscardoso8056]

Real facts

[@rcbmmines4579]

Precisely. It's also an important part of his worldview as a Catholic Christian which I am too. Now Star Wars does take from other faiths and cultures outside of Christianity, but clearly it still follows the idea that the Force, like God or Eru Iluvatar, is good, and evil is corruption. That's why balance in the Force is the triumph of light, not equal light and dark which Disney SW, mostly the Sequels and now this, seems to be going for.

[@dereklopez9060]

A bunch of random Witches getting outsmarted by a child is just pathetic.

[@just_delightful]

Like Leia escaping from an adult Red Hot Chili Pepper in Obiwan. Just insane.

[@pufffincrazy5275]

You see, girls are just magically able to defeat grown men and women, because reasons.

[@michaeljoseph2929]

And a Jedi who committed suicide for what reason? We saw everyone die in the new episode. What reason did he kill himself???

[@dragonshiny7321]

​@just_delightful don't forget when an orphaned scavenger was able to outskill a trained Sith apprentice in lightsaber combat and when a Gungan was able to help defeat nightsisters

[@malchalati]

@@dragonshiny7321that scavenger overwhelmed a severely injured and conflicted warrior. Who didn’t even want to kill her. People seem to forget about Kylo being shot by the equivalent of a 50 cal in the stomach. After murdering his own father.

[@3Overhaus]

Diminish the legacy of Han ✅ Luke✅ Anakin ✅

[@glauberlopes1779]

They didn't mean to but they did the same to Leia

[@dca2c]

The Jedi are next…

[@TaraCicora]

@@dca2c The Jedi are already on the cutting block.

[@michaellane5381]

​@@glauberlopes1779and Lando

[@achaudhari101]

Anakin isn’t ruined.

[@primal1233]

What the hell was Disney thinking when they did this?! Why do they just continue to make stupid decisions?!

[@Oscar-mh7ez]

Its because they dont care and would rather try to dunk on the haters while riding the ship into the ground then move on to the next thing because apparently thats more important to them.

[@dereklopez9060]

That's the problem, they don't think.

[@alieninsectbass]

Yup 😭

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

Acolyte should be dismissed as just goofy fanfiction. Disney Star Wars is not much different than the Star Wars Visionary comics in my mind. Why should we think these witches are special and can "create" life? Even the nightsisters' restoring of life (necromancy) isnt actually cheating death its puppeting a c0rps. And (canon) force healing as silly as it is, at least involved giving their own life force to save another. But the sequels and sometimes the Clone Wars had no concept of power ceiling either. I agree that *This* is a huge misunderstanding of what happened with Anakin, the force itself did it, not the Sith. My headcanon is she is lying and used a sp3rm donation to make them

[@Onio_362]

They don't even think about what they're writing cause they're tryna get a bunch of projects out for the sake of getting them out. One thing they all have in common is they're all rushed. The same goes for the whole sequel trilogy. They don't even try creating their own story. They just redo rebels vs. empire. If I had it my way, I'd just have the Mandalorian be one massive project, and take my time with the sequels.

[@Unbreakable87]

This feels like a troll move to get people talking about Star Wars.

[@PsychotoasterProd]

"You're just going to have to watch and find out what side of the argument you fall on." Naw, I'm good. Thanks.

[@chasehedges6775]

The people working on this show have no idea how Lucas Star Wars works

[@ffchef3465]

They know, they don’t care

[@ErikDayne]

I think they have a vague idea but they just wanna wipe the slate clean so they can do their own thing. For instance the part about how it’s not the “force” anymore, now it’s the “thread”.

[@BahamutZero09]

They do know but they wanna retcon things because "Lucas Man Bad!"

[@jimmyramos1989]

And you do?

[@skywalkersbutido6375]

look we have a genius here lmao

[@StefSis]

How come the twins are identical twins as adults when they clearly aren't as children? I never heard of that happening in real life...(?)

[@Pa1ad1no]

A bunch of clueless witches did what Darth Sidious could not.

[@ErikDayne]

What no Sith Lord or cloner could do in a thousand years

[@MaxRamos8]

honestly I think it's like dathomir where they use male slaves for breeding, but I guess the mom had her eggs fertilized inside the other woman for some reason, thus making sense that one bore them but the other created them. Just a theory since these women got to come from SOMEWHERE

[@DarthKastos]

Perhaps Darth Sidious was missing the key ingredient: the power of one, the power of two, the power of many!

[@jomkemeijerink7234]

well if you conisder the legends universe, he actually did it, he cloned himelf , its a full story arc in the comics ( 1980s or 1990s ), and there is a Luke cloen int he awesome Thrawn trilogy. ; and there is some sith alchemy lore which could be considered if the mother cloned herself in the twins. What happened to Anakin, being born from nothing or through the force, its different then someone using the force to clone / change .

[@mkhud50n]

not true. it's the convergence of the witches knowledge plus the knowledge of the Sith that when coming together rivals that of the Jedi. even then the force interceded and made one of the twins an individual. individuals are what make up the many. besides I don't see any witches creating a galactic empire.

[@lgc41004]

Alright hear me out here.. The BUNTA TREE. The emphasis on the bunta tree in the beginning with the sisters and again at the end with Mae saying "Osha" while looking at the tree. We can see the dead witches on the ground who appear to not have been burned nor killed by lightsaber. I think they were poisoned by someone, Either Osha, Mae or Torbin. When Mae went to kill Torbin the first time he did not awake. It was only after she went back the second time with the bunta poison that he woke up and decided to take his own life; to gain forgiveness from Mae. When Osha was in the apothecary Qimir says "Torbin needs something only YOU can bring him, absolution" all while looking the bunta leaves. I believe he wanted full circle redemption from Mae through death in the same manner in which he helped to kill the coven. Bunta poison. We also have the question of the scenes in the trailers with kalnacca attacking Torbin, why? I think it’s that Indara instructed her padawan Torbin to kill the witches and Kalnacca rejected the proposal, standing up for the coven.

[@paulab5264]

Your take is very interesting. There is also another possibility, the witches committed mass suicide with the bunta or were poisoned by Aniseya herself. Her body was in a separate room, and she never intended to let Osha just leave with the Jedi. The jedi would have felt guilty as their actions triggered the whole situation. Although it still doesn't explain the level of guilt Torbin felt as he was only a padawan at this time. Torbin says to Mae "We thought we were doing the right thing" so whatever happened was a group decision. OR: the jedi sabotaged the reactor causing it to blow up as a distraction so they could grab Osha and leave. Then the reactor caused a much bigger fire and gassed everyone. Either way we haven't seen the whole story, so there should be another flashback. I just hope they don't show the jedi executing the witches in cold blood, that's the one thing I would have a real problem with.

[@lgc41004]

@@paulab5264 It really does look like a mass suicide the way they are all laying in a circle like that. The Torbin part is what holds me up there, what did that dude do that warrants a suicide? That’s why I think he has something to do with the bunta, just can’t figure out what. Bc he easily could have woken up the first time Mae came to kill him, why would he wait until there was a poison to drink?

[@TheoJay615]

8:39 - To your point on the clone troopers, they weren't immaculate births via the force. They were copies of an existing being and who wasn't a force user! And when it comes to non canon force using clones like Star Killer's we also saw that for one success there were countless failures.

[@Daniel_Huffman]

Even the Starkiller Clone we play as in _TFU2_ was considered nothing more than the latest of these failures. Heck, the limitations of force-sensitive clones was a major plot point in the _Dark Empire_ comics, as Palpatine's clone bodies simply couldn't handle the sheer scope of his power in the Dark Side.

[@The_Lucent_Archangel]

@@Daniel_Huffman Palpatine's clones probably fell apart because they were grown to a mature age and he just took possession of them. He had to grow into his power the first time around. Slamming all of that down onto a fresh body probably put an incredible strain on it. Thrawn oddly enough got the concept of cloning Force-sensitives successfully by using ysalmiri to essentially "block" the cosmic Force from intervening in their formation.

[@seanmurphy7011]

4:07 - Peter Hastings wrote this to Tolkien and Tolkien responded (Letter #153) affirming what Hastings said, but correcting his reading. "Treebeard does not say that the Dark Lord 'created' Trolls and Orcs. He says he 'made' them in counterfeit of certain creatures pre-existing."

[@chasehedges6775]

I don’t know, I’m just gonna rewatch Ewoks The Battle For Endor and Revenge Of The Sith instead of this Acolyte show.

[@Maybeabandaid9]

Can't lie, I loved the Ewok movies when i was a little kids.

[@ArtooDetour]

I believe the next episode will reveal a pyromaniacal Ewok started the Acolyte temple fire. He may have even started the fire in space since oxygen is abundant there now!

[@anon_laughing_man]

Revenge of the Sith is legit a great movie

[@chasehedges6775]

@@anon_laughing_man The Best Star Wars film, IMO

[@emberfist8347]

Ewoks feels more like Star Wars honestly.

[@justinparker7712]

...because letting Palpatine come back "somehow" went over great with the fans, let's leave the twins birth up to the same fan debate. Nice move Disney.

[@Aetoski]

Nobody should be able to create Full-Life long living Force beings... Palpatine scourges the galaxy to find a way Life is precious and rare. Star Wars is a reflection of our world values. Because it should be special. You shouldn't be able to create an army of Luke Skywalkers That is why it is never successful and when it is they live short lives and burn out.

[@tidbit1877]

And there's absolutely zero suggestion that that is happening in the Acolyte.

[@Aetoski]

@@tidbit1877 zero? are we watching the same show??

[@MetalGamer666]

@@Aetoski All the witches died before they could do it again, though, so the secret died with them. Problem solved!

[@cedricroney1475]

The biggest issue for me is the minimizing and misrepresentation of the force.

[@karl-niclas_burner]

Its like those snake dancing yahoo preachers or that Koresh nut job. i just saw that coven as a bunch of crazy galactic trailertrash woowoos.

[@rubendelgado7298]

“The shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own. I don’t think it gave life to the orcs, it only ruined then and twisted them…” Perfect quote to sum up Disney Star Wars

[@Mr_Mcgee_]

Amazing video Thor, as close to perfection as humanly possible. Charitable, informative, and exactly on point with the themes of Star Wars and the implications this can have for the story George was trying to tell. Truly, bravo!

[@Govant]

Seconded

[@susanwitkowski5802]

Thirded 😊

[@susanwitkowski5802]

Thirded 😊

[@TheSlackrguy]

Agreed.

[@ArtooDetour]

Thor’s channel is the ship navigating the calm in the storm that is DisneySW. We.. are his seamen. Naboo is his 1st-Mate. And L.Headland and K.Kennedy are icebergs.

[@caseyjp1]

The 15-year-old in me that sat in a seat at the Cooper 70 in Denver in 1977 and had my mind blown...is wrecked over what Disney has done to this franchise. Rogue One and Andor cannot right the ship at this point without a major housecleaning at Disney or they just sell the franchise. 😞

[@ArtooDetour]

I’m right with u Casey. Obi Wan was my childhood hero. To watch this corporation slowly but methodically unravel the cloth that was once a beloved tapestry.. one thread at a time. Crap-now they got me talking like them!

[@The_Lucent_Archangel]

People keep extolling Rogue One and Andor as if they're pinnacles of the franchise. They're not. Just because they're marginally less trashy than the rest doesn't mean much when that's a very low bar to clear. First couple seasons of Mando were legit, but really Andor? A show about a nobody we know dies later anyway, with bits of KOTOR and other fanservice Easter Eggs sprinkled in? It comes off like someone who heard second- or third-hand accounts of better material from the pre-Disney era and figured they'd throw a bone to the older fans.

[@pabloj.garcia2559]

You argue that the life created by Plagueis should be evil, but I think what is evil and selfish would be the act itself as is something Plagueis would want for him, the opposite of what a Jedi could do. Is also against the idea of not-attachments of the light. Then, if the act is selfish and dark sided, the creation that produces does not need to be evil.

[@Magemo7]

I don't like the way they keep it vague to late the fans debate. It can work in some media, but for a pre-prequel Star Wars series that ones to say something about The Jedi, the force and dive into lore that's really bad.

[@Deuteromis]

So Headland is purposely keeping things vauge to cause conflict within the fandom...

[@achaudhari101]

Why is being vague seen as offensive?

[@Deuteromis]

​@@achaudhari101 I never said it was offensive, just that it seems like she's doing this to cause conflict. Not to mention if you are intentionally keeping alot of information vague, that's just bad story-telling.

[@custodiancolorzoo870]

@@achaudhari101Because being vague in dealing with essential lore of the franchise is a stupid move. A mistake they already made in the Sequel Trilogy. The goodwill was already used and abused, & now the fandom is reacting to the next wave of abuse. The story, from the start, is on shaky ground. The premise is full of cracks that only allow the story to go one way. Unless they do what they do with this company, and destroy what is already built. Yoda has to show up and CLEARLY show he is lying about knowing about the Sith return in the Phantom Menace, as he is the top Jedi already at this point in the timeline. There was the option that everyone dies who knows about the the Sith, before this knowledge reaches the upper crust of the Jedi & enters the record, but with the entire episode of flashback showing a full blown mission, this is no longer possible. This latest attempt reeks of arrogance and pretension to think they can pull off such a story in this universe. It is a dumb & disrespectful move to cater a story to an audience you don’t have, in spite of the one that you do have. The audience that made you and kept you alive for decades, as it gained new members and grew into an institution. This is what they are intending to do, as every interview they say it aloud. Now, they can pull off the landing on all of this, so many of us are holding back full critique until the end, as Thor says himself in the video. But the precedent has been set and doubled down on, repeatedly. So chances of that are very very low. MORE WOOKIE JEDI!!!!! Please!!!!

[@scottyhehehe5367]

I still can't believe that Star Wars has come to space lesbian witches drummed up by Harvey's personal assistant.

[@markgrace3247]

my headcanon is that she was an egg donor and this is some science based thing where the two witches are the parents, the science is considered primitive but not recognized for such

[@ZoeMalDoran]

The Kaminoans (and the Arkanians, and possibly some others) have the scientific know-how to do something like engineering an embryo from the DNA of two women and implanting it in one of them to grow to term. A few of us on TGC had our characters pay to have it done fifteen years ago, though we figured it would have to be insanely expensive in-universe. Given the Arkanians' reputation for unethical science, if they did come up with appropriate techniques, it was probably banned along with their nastier stuff and forgotten by the time of the High Republic (hence the Jedi assuming any humanoids having no-dad births was to do with the Force)

[@userequaltoNull]

@@ZoeMalDoran I mean, to hell with the Kaminoans, *we* can do it, today. I'm not sure if it's available on the clinical level yet, but I saw an article on exactly this being done a few years ago.

[@lllXanderlll]

Ah, good, it's another one of the "mystery box" types of writing. Where they could tell you how it works because they definitely thought about that but they're not going to because it's more engaging and exciting to speculate. Brilliant !

[@TheMasonAguilar]

This is like if Edward and Alphonse successfully transmitted their Mom in Fullmetal Alchemist. In other words, bullshit.

[@austintrousdale2397]

When the commentary on a show is exponentially more insightful than the art (and I apply that term *very* generously) that it’s discussing. I’m not giving up on The Acolyte just yet, but perhaps like you, Thor, I’ve got a bad feeling about where this might be going. 🔨 ⚡️

[@mrcat3493]

I’m fairly certain that there is a passage in The Silmarillion about Melkor not being able to create new life; he is only able to twist and pervert what Eru Ilúvatar had created.

[@John_Locke_108]

I just don't understand why they would do something like this. I guess they could just undo it in the season finale and introduce an actual father. But that would be even dumber somehow.

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

Evil could never create life? Now let me tell you about struggle snuggles

[@yogib5819]

There are no heros, there are no villains, the Jedi are not special, everyone can use the Force and please hand out the participation trophy for all. Disney's lessons for the "Modern Audience".

[@YegRon]

I think there’s an interesting discussion about just how quickly a male-less society crumbles…

[@Azumadofu]

9:57 “Solve world hunger, tell no one.” - Grinch

[@obsidiananvil9719]

I suspect their "creation" and the large scale fire/destruction, is tied to something which Mae discloses @ 32:46 in episode 3, after locking Osha in her room, but prior to setting her book on fire: Osha: "Mae let me out." Mae: "IT won't let it happen."

[@bmarshy]

She says “I won’t let it happen”

[@DarthKato]

I watched The Phantom Menace today and it was even better than I remember. It felt so good to see some good Star Wars again.

[@anthonyyoutubefan7567]

Now, WHY am I NOT surprised that a specific explanation for the existence of the twins WON'T be revealed?

[@hinfortbrazy]

Dude, your output is a true blessing!

[@SuperMattman21]

I would mentally break from mental trauma without Thor during times like these in Starwars.

[@hinfortbrazy]

@@SuperMattman21 it's like a sanctuary for fans that are critical of the recent developments in the franchise, yet don't want to hop on this rage-bait and yapping train

[@Aetoski]

I love watching Thor's Videos. I don't always 100% agree with his takes... cough Andor cough lol... but I love his and Naboo's views either way. Always fair and driven my logic, not outrage.

[@SuperMattman21]

@@Aetoski I agree I find Thor is the most logical driven Starwars commentator followed by generation tech, but Tech has really loved the acolyte and I feel like he is mostly making excuses in a tone of voice that makes it sound like his takes are based in logic. (At least concerning Acolyte) But as far as Andor goes. I mean he says he gets that some people might not like Andor because it’s slower paced at the beginning, but it really is one of the most competent shows I’ve ever watched especially from Starwars. Andor is far from the only type of good show we need from Disney though we also need more Tales of the Jedi’s and more Mando season 1/2’s. We need WAY less Kenobi’s and Book of Boba fett’s

[@SuperMattman21]

@@hinfortbrazy facts, but I get yelled at so often by people in the comment section just by trying to point out that not everyone is racist or sexist and that many of us just don’t like what Disney has cooked up. I mean Disney running a solid .250 batting average at the very most.

[@CarlWheatley-wi2cl]

The biggest issue is that this is a crime against entertainment. Let alone anything Star Wars related.

[@theindexfinger3434]

Its a terrible show. If it wasnt Star Wars I wouldnt be watching anymore. And no one would be talking about it and no one would care. At this point, Im just morbidly curious about how bad the next episodes can be.

[@Tyranidus7]

"...If you want to trust what Palpatine said..." Lol I think a good rule of thumb is to never trust Palpatine no matter what he says. But I agree with you, this show is about using shock value to artificially inflate its story and interest. I think its quite possible that Palpatine was straight up lying to Anakin, Plagueis never created life, Palpatine just new that such a tale was exactly what Anakin needed to hear to get hooked. Darth Plagueis' name is literally derived from plague, an infestation, irritation, or curse. I think its a lot more plausible that the attempt to create life failed but its effects within the Force were so profound it retaliated and created Anakin. I think it would be a lot more meaningful if only the Force itself could create spontaneous life but the creators of this show don't seem to care. Disney has been hacking away at Anakin's story since Rise of Skywalker with the return of Sideous, completely undermines his sacrifice and the ending of Return of the Jedi because Sideous just comes back. Undermine's Disney's own story too because if Sideous could come back once, whats to stop him from doing it again? Because Rey did it this time? What makes Rey special? That she's the daughter of a defective and escaped Palpatine clone? Verses the guy born of a virgin marriage and who seemingly the Force brought to the Jedi's doorstep? The story from 1 to 6, though with 1 to 3 could be said to be messy, was a coherent story. All cohesion with these grafts is now lost.

[@winst999]

Bootleg no frills versions of the Night Sisters

[@CDBookManGaming]

Considering Disney made a full length film about a line in the opening crawl of A New Hope, a line from a SITH LEGEND - you know, something that may not actually be real - making a series shouldn't surprise anyone. It's fan fiction garbage, which is all Disney's made with George Lucas's creation. Anakin was meant to be a mythological hero, like Herakles, to bring balance, which he did. How would a Sith Lord called PLAGEUIS be able to use the Force to create life? It was a lie to seduce Anakin. "Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are his ways now."

[@upStomp]

We are the knights who say "Meh"!

[@betterlatethannever4529]

“Meh”!

[@pufffincrazy5275]

“Meh”!

[@Sam_T2000]

I think there are two ways I could possibly forgive ‘Episode 3’ and reconcile it with the canon: 1. it turns out the twins are just clones, or they even have a normal father somewhere, and Aniseya was just a fraud. 2. the twins are portrayed to basically be anti-Christ-like anti-Chosen Ones… but even this is still a stretch, as it’s way too heavy of a concept to bring up in a cheesy and poorly-written Disney+ show.

[@saveritas731]

Hey Thor, I am very much okay with this use of the Force and here's why: The Dark Side does have immortality and life creation abilities in Legends canon, it's just that they are all perverse. The ancient Sith Lord Darth Andeddu did figure out essence transfer and was able to hop from one body to another, granting him outright immortality. This is the ability Sidious uses in combination with clones of himself to come back from the dead in the Dark Empire books, and presumably the same ability he uses in Rise of Skywalker. Also, the ancient Sith used Sith Alchemy to create many species of Dark Side animals including the Terentatek, a type of beast that has a strong appetite for and hunting urge against Jedi and other Light Siders. These are all perversions of existing things, but we have been down this road before. Additionally, Sith Ghosts such as Exar Kun's spirit on Yavin IV, Karness Murr's spirit inside his talisman, and the various ghosts on Korriban of Marka Ragnos, Ajunta Pall, and many others have been a thing, the difference between them and Obi-Wan/Yoda/Qui-Gon/Anakin being that they are trapped in one place or thing, are not connected to the Cosmic Force, and are generally stuck being perpetually miserable and/or angry. These ideas didn't come from Lucas directly, but these are from official licensed properties in Star Wars that Lucas permitted to be part of the canon prior to the Disney purchase. So if we are going to say that what The Acolyte does is a problem, we would have to apply the same logic to large swaths of Legends canon that people love and enjoy.

[@CantankerousDave]

Andeddu? Really? Undead? Clearly from that time when they were naming characters using a thesaurus. And here I thought Savage Oppress and Cad Bane were painfully stupid.

[@mr_yoru5834]

Thor knows all this. He's just trying really hard to justify hating this episode so he can continue to placate the hateful side of his followers. He tries to play both sides all the time, not genuine at all.

[@thorskywalker]

As I've said before, there's a big difference between the EU, which started many years before the Prequels came out and (in all reality) became it's own thing, and the Disney canon that took over after everything Lucas had done and ignores it.

[@thorskywalker]

@mr_yoru5834 You ever stop and consider the possibility that sometimes I like things and say I like things, and sometimes I don't like things and say I don't? That it does me no good to play both sides, as you suggest I do. That if I wanted to "placate the hateful side" (or the positive side) I'd just always make negative videos (or positive ones) and have more subscribers and views and make more money?

[@mr_yoru5834]

@thorskywalker They absolutely do not ignore Legends. They incorporate things from it all the time.

[@1001History]

Look. I'll let them cook and make a final judgment at the end of the season/series. I'm sure it'll end up being a pile of turd, but I'll give it time. Same as how I'm beginning to appreciate Palpatine's return through all the Project Necromancer content we've gotten recently.

[@seeerr5570]

If you know kk, Lucasfilm, and Disney.... you know how the story will play out.

[@cypher10]

I'm just going to wait until the end of the season to see if they explain it or not and how they do it.

[@jacobshraim4231]

This is why the franchise will remain dead because you all are still giving it a chance. Help it by walking away and boycotting it.

[@jaypking4945]

@@jacobshraim4231You’re not gonna help Star Wars by arbitrarily deciding to boycott it now instead of nine years ago.

[@stefangonzo]

Palatine couldn't do what the witches did, cause he didn't taste the rainbow.

[@roleplayer5564]

The only logical answer is cloneakin traveled back in time and created the twins

[@gmat4380]

Hope Naboo sees this 😂

[@pauladdae3130]

You're right, there are some very disturbing issues with what Headland has delivered here. This is a 'Rian Johnson'-esqe shock value approach via undermining the very edifice of the franchise. The arrogance of those involved in this, including some if the actors, is apparent. Why did that actress at SW Celebration try to assert Star Wars is misogynistic?! Although there is Leia, Mara Jade, Mon Mothma, Padme, Satele, Satine, Sabine, Ahsoka, Bo Katan, Cara Dune, Jyn Erso etc. As if they can come along and 'correct' the franchise and its lore.

[@charleshartley9597]

Great analysis Thor. You are one of the few level-headed commentors out there in the field of SW critique.

[@dylanlewis5113]

With the way these shows are structured (a 6-8 hour movie broken up), I've decided to withhold most of my judgement until the show is over. Things may change for the better. Things may also get worse. I learned that lesson with Secret Invasion.

[@Zayphar]

In Legends, Sith Alchemy could only create twisted creatures of monsterous evil.

[@cael4065]

Focus on those first 2 words

[@Zayphar]

@@cael4065 I do. Believe me, I do. 90% of Legends/Video Game story is vastly better storytelling than 99% of Disney Canon. As an example, in Legends the Tuk'ata is a product of Sith alchemy. On the other hand, the only Disney Canon that makes any sense at all is Rogue One and Andor. If Disney Canon conflicts with Legends, I'll go with Legends most of the time.

[@superpowerman4354]

Fantastic Take. So happy you said the witches calling the force “the thread” isn’t a big deal. They have a different belief system. It’s simple. Also, Even IF the witches created life, through some sort of ritual or prayer, it’s NOT equivalent/ nor does it lessen Anakins birth. Nobody prayed for or created Anakin. The Force alone conceived Anakin. It’s NOT the same thing. Great video man.

[@maciejhofman2250]

Good talk Thor 👍 I have a feeling that in order to "shake things up" and in the spirit of blending the difference between good and bad (kind of postmodern idea, that morality depends on a point of view) the ones responsible for death of witches will be jedi themselves. Plus we have this idea (coming from a new trilogy) that anyone can be a hero, which is true as a statement, but hard to achieve in real life, which SW producers simply forget, but again - it is just a children story 😊

[@darkguardian1314]

Ruined… as in the world of Star Wars is ruined. Seeing a refresher is just twisting the impaled lightsaber… I’m done… Since 1977 I’ve loved Star Wars. Along with Star Trek is like losing my whole identity. My heart is broken…💔😢

[@ArtooDetour]

I too feel pain watching the blasphemy unfold one series after another. We gotta try to weather all this. Remember the past. Keep it alive within u until the failed science project that was Disney SW sells and evolves into something quality again.

[@achaudhari101]

SW isn’t as ruined as you think.

[@jacobshraim4231]

@@achaudhari101Your clearly on steroids. It’s dead my friend. Wanna be with Bob Iger and his idiot plebs be my guest.

[@root13pie]

They can never erase the older content that you love, or your enjoyment of it, unless you let them.

[@danielchew8739]

​@@achaudhari101 You are right, the movies and older EU content are there, as far as i am concerned, i am eating good.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

We even hear the accusation from the birth-mother: something "if the Jedi find out how". So there is how, that even the Witches find most questionable. The tone she says it feels like regret? At least not fully condoning what the creator-mother has done, technically.

[@sneakysingy3693]

Osha Mae is a soap company…

[@darthbuzz1]

I fear that not only will this series make a complete hash of revealing how Anakin was 'created' but also it will be just the latest in the Disney+ series' that are desperately trying to explain the 'Somehow, Palpatine returned' balls up. Both The Mandalorian and The Bad Batch are both ruined for me because of this.

[@2apocalypse-X]

In the Book "The Dark Side" it explains the the Nightsisters were able to use Magick to give birth to other Nightsisters but they had to procreate naturally with night brothers to produce male offspring

[@joeschnoebelen2863]

Was there any indication that this particular coven was evil? In Tales of the Empire (the show) and The Courtship of Princess Leia, there were many covens of witches, with only the nightsisters being evil. These witches seemed adamant to avoid conflict at all costs, despite having a substantial numbers advantage. There were only 4 jedi, and none of them seemed to be one-man armies like Yoda or Mace. Nothing to stop the witches from eliminating the jedi and fleeing to another planet

[@ardendragoon]

That quote goes back to the Similarion and the beginning of the story. The adar could not create so one, the first dark lord, corrupted the song.

[@TWMICHAL]

This episode has shaken the whole foundation of this universe. Like many fictional universes, SW has its version of the choosen one/messiah. Ability to create a life, anomally, natural processes(like parthenogenesis) or science/high-tech should not lead to create powerful force beings (or at least lead to create abominations, monsters or just something that fell out of control). Even the ability to create bilions of clones was somehow limited - there were no force-sensitive clones and Snoke or Palpatine in ep9 were abominations. If parthenogenesis occurs in SW lore (or may be done artifficialy) it should not lead to birth of the powerful force-sensitives. Ability to make inaminate objects move or necromancy is also limited and these magic abilities does not create life.

[@ArtooDetour]

Mother Aniseya and her dead coven has “Jonestown Suicide” vibes. We know lightsabers didn’t kill them as Disney lightsaber are basically flashlights. I hate to invest 5 minutes of thought into this worthless script for it only to be another “somehow.. the Emperor has returned” blurb. If they killed themselves… . ..why?!

[@jacobfranzgrote]

And then why Torbin kill himself out of guilt or 'fear ' of what he saw?

[@ArtooDetour]

@@jacobfranzgrote they must have done something very un-Jedi like. As a group. A brilliant writer with knowledge and a Shakespearean quill might be able to pull it off. But Leslye Headland? My faith is waning. 😣

[@N3on_Vo1d]

But dont forget cloning is not necessarily the unatural creation of life We IRL can clone plants and most animals

[@betterlatethannever4529]

To be fair. Cloning is less creating and more recreating. You have to have a source in order to clone something.

[@N3on_Vo1d]

@@betterlatethannever4529 exactly Honestly tho, no matter how mad she makes me, comparing Headland to Tolkien is strait up unfair🤣🤣🤣

[@presidentmillardfillmore1329]

Hey Thor, you basically summarized my thoughts on the matter. The only thing I want to add, is that I think the "creation" the mother did either might not have been orginally evil, or the "creation" will later be revealed as evil. Basically, this could have been either as an act of love, before being corrupted with the dark side. Or maybe the twins were actually normally born and the creation is some dark side corruption process.

[@ArtooDetour]

Thanks for your content Thor. I get so spun up watching the Disneyfication of Star Wars. Ur channel returns my boil to a simmer.

[@funkyd3321]

Episode 3 is just a re-write of the 1993 Waco Siege on the Branch Davidians.

[@masterswordwielder]

I really think, we have to withhold our judgement on this episode, because there definitely are ways to make everything make sense. On that same note, her comment about how every viewer can believe whatever way the twins were created. It really makes me think that the Jedi are portrayed the way they are, because the witches see them that way. That the writing is that good is not out of the question

[@sirfishe9949]

I think Sidious lied about Plagueis creating life. I think he only said what he said to Anakin to lure him into wanting to know more about the dark side. That's what the whole point was. He knew by saying that that it would get anakin's interest. The darkside will always destroy life. It will destroy you, the people around you and life itself. A Sith can never live outside the force which is why its impossible for a Sith to become a force ghost. Plagueis never created life. its impossible

[@achaudhari101]

Sidious lies about everything including telling Anakin he could save Padme from death.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

6:46 that dude was just crazy, whole reason they has him on the brain parasite. I figured when they caught him with the wrest of the prisoners they took a hint that they were all blaming "the jedi killer." I dunno.

[@not_want4203]

Plagueis: Tries to create the perfect dark side being. The Force: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

[@williamshepherd5990]

In Star Wars canon we have: 1) Anakin, conceived by the Force itself to bring balance (far different than a force user manipulating it to create life). Note the council wasn’t extremely shocked to learn of his possible conception by the midichlorians, they were aware such a thing was theoretically possible 2) Plagueis, according to Palpatine, being able to influence midichlorians to create life (that’s all we definitively know, the Plagueis novel isn’t canon) 3) Nightsisters being able to resurrect the dead into zombies that can strategize and have some sort of sentience. (From Clone Wars, Ahsoka) 4) A Nightsister named Yenna, created from clay and magick (an aspect of the dark side) by her “mother” Falta. (From Clone Wars: Stories of Light and Dark) 5) Transference, the dark side power to transfer your spirit/consciousness into an object or body in order to cling onto life. Palpatine, Momin, etc. have done this 6) Eternal consciousness, the light side path of gaining immortality via training to retain one’s consciousness/spirit after death. Qui Gon, Yoda, Obi Wan, Luke, and Leia have all done this. Kanan was implied to have done it to some degree through a Loth Wolf spirit guardian of sorts 7) And now the twins Mae and Osha. A coven of witches, specifically Aniseya and Korril, perhaps using the dark side but we aren’t sure in this instance, created the twins through some unknown process. If indeed the force was used to create the twins, this is nothing new or canon-breaking. It’s different than the force itself creating life, as is the case with the Chosen One, Anakin Skywalker. He is still special in this regard. But life creation as a force power has been canon since RotS, and using the force to create, resurrect, or sustain life has been done multiple times since then. None of this dilutes Anakin’s importance. He’s still the Chosen One, he’s still the only one we know of to be born the way he was. Anakin never had a monopoly on force-conception anyway. But even if he did, every other example has been someone using the force to create life, not the force itself doing it. I’m not sure where this misconception has come from and why it’s so pervasive as to be said by channels as prominent as you. Does this episode and the show itself have flaws? Sure, every Star Wars project does. But this is not one of them lol. Honestly most criticisms I’ve seen (not all) have been born from misunderstandings like this. Regardless of if the twins’ birth stays vague or if Lesley is lying and it will be fully explained, it doesn’t break canon or disrespect anything.

[@williamshepherd5990]

As for how Sidious couldn’t figure out how to do what the witch coven did. Well first of all, they all died before they could pass that knowledge to anyone (if they even wanted to) lmao. Second of all, we have more than half the season to go, so perhaps answers await us. It is a mystery show, after all. Third of all, we can already piece some of this answer together. Sidious, after securing the chancellorship, killed Plagueis out of ambition and greed, no longer seeing any use in his master for his future plans. Unlike what he told Anakin, he likely didn’t learn everything his master knew lol. He also studied with the Nightsisters for a bit (specifically Talzin), but ended up taking Maul from her as his apprentice instead of continuing to trade secrets. And then during the clone wars he saw the Nightsisters as a threat and had them mostly wiped out. So another potential source of that knowledge was gone. Sidious at that point was focused on gaining more executive powers and destroying all threats to him (Nightsisters, Jedi, clone with a malfunctioning chip lol, etc.). He likely assumed that after the Empire rose and he had full control, he could find how to create and sustain life without anyone being able to impede him. But of course ppl still did (Ezra & Ahsoka stopped him from gaining access to the World Between Worlds, Bad Batch destroyed Mt. Tantiss, Vader wasn’t much help in his mutilated form and he wanted those secrets for himself anyway, etc.). He still managed to sustain his own life to an extent tho via transference and partially working clone bodies. Sidious ultimately was concerned with becoming immortal and gaining reality-warping powers, not figuring out how to create other ppl. But regardless he only partially succeeded in the end due to his own flaws, ppl stopping him, and potential sources of that knowledge being killed.

[@williamshepherd5990]

And the “evil can’t create only twist/destroy what’s already there” isn’t even really true? It’s a nice philosophical statement but both irl and in SW “evil” (or rather ppl using dark means/forces) have been shown to be able to create things. I dont necessarily think life in itself is something that can only be created out of goodness either; life is neutral, it feeds the living force sure but it’s ultimately what living ppl do that affects the balance of the force. Also, imo the idea that if life can be made from evil means it must be bad/“wrong” in some way is a dangerous narrative to have. Not a nearly exact analogue ofc, but is a child conceived of rape twisted or wrong in any objective sense? An evil act created it, but that child is otherwise like any other beyond the associations it might be attached with. If anything, I think the idea that good can come from evil and ultimately conquer/outlive it is a much better concept. Hell, before we knew Anakin’s backstory, that was one of the core themes of the OT lol

[@sum87itt]

Hey Thor, I thought the issue with this episode was that it was completely superfluous. It did not further the plot, showed us everything in detail which we already knew in ep 1 and 2. And then went on to shit on Anakin

[@lorewalkermaohao4602]

A theory of mine that makes sort of sense is that Aniseya used a Jedi in some way to "create" the twins. And not in a natural way. Koril implies Aniseya will be in big trouble with the Jedi if they ever found out how Aniseya did it. If she simply had consensual relations with a Jedi then the one in trouble would be the jedi. Non consensual would be wrong, but that doesn't strike me as a thing the Jedi would hunt her down over, and even if they did she would be put in prison and eventually released again to rejoin the coven. It's also too simple of an answer imho. But if she had managed to capture a (or more) Jedi and "unthread" them before "weaving" the "threads" into the unborn twins of her own eggs, then used Koril as a surrogate to ensure a healthy birth (zabrak are physically stronger than humans) or simply as a gesture of love, then certainly the Jedi would be going after her. This would let Aniseya technically create new life but at the cost of someone still alive. Why pick a Jedi? Because Aniseya wanted to ensure the twins be born force sensitive. Maybe she had her eggs inseminated first through bargaining, charm, trickery or force (no pun intended) and it was the "unthreading" that was to ensure the force sensitivity.

[@JohanMsWorld]

Two questions: -How do we know the witches are "evil"? Do they do evil things in the episode or do you assume they are evil just cause they call themselves witches? -How do we know the twins where NOT created with science if that is a thing? They say nothing about HOW they where created after all and I doubt that the Kamonians is the sole clone able people out there. Could they even have gone to Kamino and bought two offfsprings? J.

[@rorrschach8339]

The witches aren't evil, they just use the dark side. The conventional Jedi teaching is that the dark side is evil, when it's just raw emotion.

[@randompost78154]

I don't mind that she can create life, but like you said if we're going to defile other peoples stories can we at least do it in a cool & interesting way? Like she could be a dark jedi and create a holocron which we can allude to Plagueis finding it in his hunt for immortality. Even though I think this point is fine the story is still dreadfully boring. I just don't care about Mae or Osha and child actors are always a nightmare. They were annoying, but it's starwars, I shouldn't expect STARS or WARS.

[@JackQSmith]

I hope I'm wrong but I think the alien mother will turn out to be the Sith training Mae. After Mae turns on her, we'll find out Qimir was playing the long game and was using Mae to kill Jedi without a weapon. In other words he's the true Acolyte, and he'll eventually graduate to Sith Lord and become Darth Plaguis (yes I know he was an alien in the old Legends novels). He will learn how to create life from his master before inevitably killing her. Then once Palpatine is his apprentice, he'll tell him this was his own original work.

[@MrNisse-ef9by]

What if...Darth Plageus learned the secret of creating life by studying these twins? That these are the protoypes that Plageus used to learn how to create Anakin? This all takes places decades before Anakin was born, so there's plenty of time for him to get his hands on them, and uncover the mechanism used to trigger the miticlorians to spontaneuously create a child.

[@RaikenXion]

Heh Leslie may be tryin hard to channel Rashomon style storytelling but it's clear shes no Kurosawa. 29:00 Remember, 1st, 2nd, 3trd rule of Fight Club. If you go look up Leslie Headland talking about her inspirations for writing her Acolyte story, one ofwhich was Fight Club. I have a feeling Leslie Headland is trying to draw from all these different things she luvs, including aspects of her own life, and it's like she's really just juggling all those balls, only a matter of time before she drops them all. I think you have to be a really skilled writer to tell a "starwars story", while incorporating many different themes, including social messages, character development, while also making sure the motivations of your characters make sense, the world itself makes sense and feels like starwars, while also making sure your audience have empathy, and care about your main character/s. Especially if all the time in the back of your mind, while you're writing that story you also desire to include say something about present day society, or even your own life. Havnt watched this show (and dont intend to) but it seems like Leslie Headland may have bitten off more than she can chew here, trying to say all kinds of things, cramming many different things into her show.

[@willwon8962]

i don't give a F about spoilers. Watching KZbinrs shit on the show is far more preferable AND enjoyable than watching the dumpster fire known as Disney SW.

[@achaudhari101]

That’s brain damaging of you to say.

[@LornaYShaw]

“Star Wars will never die as long as we hold true to it. We will not let it suffer not while we have breath in our bodies.”

[@theasphole]

Everyone, how about this as a concept: Imaculate conception through the force happens occasionally under special circumstances and when it wills (of course). Anakin WAS the chosen one and he fulfilled the prophecy through the will of the force. Maybe the love between the witches is what allowed the living force to flow through them allowing the opportunity. I like thor skywalkers theory of punishment though. What would have been neat is if each mother gave birth to one of the identical twins.

[@Imhotep397]

Personally, I still believe they are the first clones which is how the Sith keys in on the Kamanoans for the Prequels, but we’ll have to wait and see. The fundamental problem I have with the Jedi in this kind of scenario is a total disrespect of sovereignty, jurisdictional boundaries… so essentially the law applies when it’s convenient. When it’s not convenient, well they will just persist and do “what they believe to be right” the law be damned. If the twins were essentially conjured it makes sense that they are both incomplete.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

The only issue that comes to mind is that it’s practically impossible to clone someone without failing to copy over the force as well.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

The main problem I have (other than the obvious) is this episode completely ruins Mei's quest for revenge. We are lead to believe that the Jedi she is after caused some damage that was so unforgivable that she went on an entire revenge quest to kill them all for destroying her family. When in reality, they didn't even do anything and the entire destruction of her village and family is her damn fault. She set the place on fire. She caused the people to die. The Jedi didn't even do anything to cause the fire or her family to die. Everything is HER DAMN FAULT. So how am I as the viewer, supposed to sympathize with Mei? I am all for having nuanced conversations about the flaws of the Jedi as long as the situation shows they have been misguided. And in this case, they're not. They just came to see if the girls were force sensitive and Mei took it to murder and destruction. If the goal is to make the main character sympathetic, this is not the way to do it. Sol and the others did nothing to warrant this revenge assault from Mei.

[@yahinicv]

The acolyte is a CW version of Star wars

[@22infection]

Modern thoughts of there is no truth but power makes everything hollow. It will make star wars hollow

[@Mr_Penguins_Pet_Human]

First balanced review I've heard on KZbin. Totally agree.

[@miguerys9503]

Why people get so upset over a fan-fiction? Oh wait, fan is not the right word... what is the opposite of a fan?

[@Poptalkandaliens]

At this point I’m glad if they aren’t going definitely say the twins were created via the force. My whole hope for this show was that it would be vague enough to be ignored. Which is a depressingly low bar but looks like that may be the case so…”good job Acolyte” 😂