The Acolyte's failure is now complete

[@extantsanity]

7:20 "Somehow the more Disney puts out, the more fans they lose" Like Leia said, _"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers"_

[@megcrimson8589]

It’s like poetry, it rhymes

[@saberiandream316]

Disney Star Wars is manned by the evil empire.

[@belliott538]

@@saberiandream316 “Disney Star Wars is Wo-Manned by the EVIL Empire”… Fixed It… 🤣

[@stephenmarshall8367]

​​@@belliott538....not for long... femoral artery has been severed....just bleeding out now.....

[@PattyOflan88]

​@@megcrimson8589 this will never not be my favorite quote to use in relation to star wars

[@shouayang6518]

Godzilla minus one cost 22 million to make. Let that sink in. Where did 180 million go to?

[@saladin3273]

Hush money.

[@kalzium8857]

Hiring Leslies wife was not cheap.

[@shouayang6518]

@@kalzium8857 my thoughts excactly

[@HoodedSpidey]

VFX, sets, and choreography “better than Duel of the Fates.” Things that could’ve easily gone to Obi Wan, or to talented writing across the board. They’ll never learn.

[@rhetro777]

Godzilla - 1 was cheap because everyone works for peanuts and ramen in Japan as they don't have unions. Also the advantage of the director/vfx supervisor doing the effects in-house. I doubt we'll see anyone do so much with so little again anytime soon.

[@-AtomsPhere-]

I can’t believe poor Lee Jung-Jae learned English to say these lines. He probably thinks English is a nonsense language now 😂

[@achaudhari101]

Wrong again.

[@Latexi_LMX]

English is pretty easy language, I am scandinavian

[@peterdickinson4599]

Probably learnt the difference between the words few and less.

[@-AtomsPhere-]

@@achaudhari101 thank the Force the Star Wars fandom has you achaudhari101 to tell us “you’re wrong” on every comment we make. We’re really fortunate to have you so you can show us the way. 😊 Your insight is without parallel and the depths of your wisdom are unmatched. You truly are a God among us mere mortals. ❤️

[@achaudhari101]

Or English is something he doesn’t regret learning.

[@EverestProductionsFanFilms]

We are glad you enjoyed Plagueis Episode 1. We are working on Episode II right now. Cheers from the Everest crew!

[@JoeSpringer97]

I just started watching the video. To me, it sounds like you tried using some kind of variant of Christopher Lee's voice? Regardless, the voice you chose was a good one.

[@EverestProductionsFanFilms]

@@JoeSpringer97 It was someone that was copying the way the audiobook voice spoke and cadence and then a pitch filter gave him a Dooku esque pitch which we came to accept.

[@RaikenXion]

@@EverestProductionsFanFilms I'd luv for you guys to do a similar adaptation of the classic *Dark Empire* stories, or maybe Shadows. I really enjoyed your Plagueis Ep1 adapt too, great work guys. 👍

[@emreoral4385]

Bro tell me HOW PEOPLE STILL HAVE THEIR JOBS AFTER THIS MANY OF FAILURES, it's crazy.

[@Historyandlegends789]

Same way corrupt politicians keep their jobs in a dictatorship - fall guys, bribes, and higher ups who REALLY can’t afford to higher new people because it would make them look like the useless thriving idiotic criminals they are.

[@Mangolorian-je3eo]

Yes, it’s the revolution.

[@Pelicanzzz]

I believe KK has her job because Lucas is in her corner. Lucas is supporting her because he actually hates the fans and wants them to suffer.

[@kimmccarthy7747]

Well, there's KK and Leslie. That's two....

[@morsecode980]

ESG scores. BlackRock and similar companies pay big corporations in media to push “The Message” even if it flops.

[@captainDJ87]

FYI, for all the talk of misogyny in Hollywood, a male exec would have been fired by now...or years ago when Solo dropped

[@anovaguy]

That's the power of trading on race and sex

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

Disney's executives are hoping this pisses off conservatives enough to give Trump another term so the executives get a huge tax cut. The idea is to make it seem like the "woke left" are the bad guys to blame for the corporate greed screwing over the average American worker. Just like how Palpatine blamed the Jedi for trying to overthrow the Republic as he was, himself, literally overthrowing the Republic.

[@ChrisBear1989]

Its mostly corporate greed from these executives.

[@Nightc1tyronin]

@@ChrisBear1989except Star Wars is a dying and unprofitable brand right now. This is about pushing an agenda, not profit.

[@kenmercadante4565]

Solo wasn't bad, just unnecessary. The Acolyte was baaaaaad.

[@El_Fabricio]

Remember: A single minute in Acolyte (On average) costs around 600.000 to 750.000$. PER MINUTE! That's like 1-2 houses to buy. A MINUTE. Yes, I am talking about Acolyte...

[@justskip4595]

That is more money in a minute than will pass through my hands in my entire life time.

[@friedrichjunzt]

Mind-blowing

[@Paradox-es3bl]

Imagine how many homeless they could’ve given a home, instead. Slap the Star Wars name on that, Disney. It’s a better use of your money and the brand.

[@El_Fabricio]

@@Paradox-es3bl They literally could have given every Star Wars fan on earth a 400$ lightsaber.

[@obvious_owl7206]

@@El_Fabricio While their budget use is insane, your math ain’t quite mathin’. That would only cover half a million people, and there are probably a billion Star Wars fans in the world based on some google math (a quarter of internet users estimated as Star wars fans, and internet users making up 60% of the global population). Although that’s probably just for anyone who has seen the movies. Still, there’s millions of avid fans throughout the world and unfortunately we couldn’t all alternatively get a premium lightsaber even though that’d be sick.

[@HoodedSpidey]

Please tell me S2 is cancelled. Edit: Yes. Yes it is!!!

[@PixelKatana]

Just started the video praying for this. Edit: It was cancelled at last. Now they just need to fire KK, cancel Rey’s movie and we may have some semblance of hope.

[@shouayang6518]

I hope it is but knowing how toxic and corroupt hollywood is they were begging for one regardless if fans like it or not.

[@NZealand]

They’ll continue the acolyte story with a film

[@randomrobin7773]

Sadly if Velma got a S2, there's a chance this might as well.

[@achaudhari101]

How wretched to hope that.

[@nintendosaber1184]

I need Andor back so I can remember what competent writing looks like.

[@Latexi_LMX]

I triend watching Andor, managed to do 3 episodes. Doesn't feel Star Wars at all, boring IMO

[@Angrenost02]

​@@Latexi_LMXWell you're in the minority. The show's awesome.

[@muchanadziko6378]

Just watch anything not made by a big corporation?

[@nintendosaber1184]

@@Latexi_LMX That's ok. I felt the show was a bit slow at times but overall I enjoyed quality writing and mature tone, especially from around the half way point onward. It might just not be to your taste which is valid.

[@cahe6161]

Competence is the word that defines that show

[@NakAlienEd]

"If you just want to watch some cool lightsaber fights, you can just do that on KZbin." Me: *Pauses video so I can go rewatch Ryan Vs Dorkman for the 50th time*

[@HoodedSpidey]

I understood that reference

[@BillyBatsonMarvel]

Cool lightsaber fights in the Acolyte🤔 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣💩

[@brettloo7588]

YEAH, fans make so much cool shit with 0 dollars. What is wrong with disney and these mega corps. sad really

[@Emarella]

You just reminded me of the glory that was that video. Time for me to rewatch too!

[@TheDisgruntledImperial]

Concrete Hustle is pretty great, too.

[@lasercraft32]

Star Wars is proof that no franchise is too big to fall... If there's a will, there's a way.

[@Jon-rv9oh]

You can say that about most of the Mega corporations

[@jjstarrprod]

This is the way

[@leebishop7591]

ANDOR was robbd. Its the best SW series. Cant wait for season 2 next year.

[@johnpoulton9446]

That was a good way to state it. Less and less people are not giving Star Wars the benefit of the doubt.

[@achaudhari101]

Villains of the same coin next to Kennedy.

[@Takwygladapilaw]

@@achaudhari101 Om nom nom, garbage is so tasty. Give me more Disney. - Achaudhari101

[@OkMakuTree]

In the words of Lando, "This deal's getting worse all the time!" And yet KK still thinks her big win is on the horizon...

[@superomegaprimemk2]

The board shouldn't be renewing her contract as all she got to show for her tenture at Lucasfilm is: six movies, grossing, less and less, two outright bombs, streaming shows, losing viewers, a complete collapse in mech sales, a disfranchised fan base, one streaming show that so bad that it became a tax write off, so the failures out weigh any sucesses and she NOT going to get the win she desires because she has sconed the fan base enough to the point they are not willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and when something she involved with appears, they'll just reject it!!

[@tomcustis9272]

@@superomegaprimemk2 and that’s just Star Wars. She also made Indiana jones into one of the biggest cinematic flops ever.

[@superomegaprimemk2]

@@tomcustis9272 I did include Indi among the movies, which is why I said, two were out right bombs, Indi & Solo

[@emberfist8347]

“People expect movies and shows to look good nowadays” and then Kenobi shows us a not-Pau’an as the Grand Inqusitor and Book of Boba Fett makes Cad Bane’s head too small.

[@countluke2334]

And that's both not on the top 50 of these shows' problems.

[@kri249]

Pretty much nailed it. Big budget special effects are the norm now. You can't just jingle the keys in front of the audience and expect them to be distracted by lore inconsistencies and lack of a story. Star Wars was revolutionary for its time and that's just it. It had its time. It will never replicate that same hype, especially from younger fans or "modern audiences."

[@marcomarterer7232]

The alcolythe even had fatal numbers at pirate sites. You know somethings dispised if people refuse to watch it for "free"

[@GrechStudios]

I have to say, we’ve been referring to Star Wars as “supposed to being a premiere franchise” for a long time now. But maybe we need to incorporate the modern data that we see in front of our eyes today. I don’t think Star Wars is a premiere franchise anymore. I think we need to accept that. Not that we shouldn’t demand for better quality as fans. But just that the cultural standard that was Star Wars is behind us.

[@jeramydavin4061]

What!? But- but muh modern audience! -KK

[@CurrentlyDuck1]

The modern audience consists entirely of the people in Hollywood who make stuff for the modern audience.

[@marhawkman303]

@@CurrentlyDuck1 Yeah, also this "audience" doesn't buy movie tickets.

[@voyager451]

i have people arguing with me on twitter that the ratings aren't bad...and i'm presenting them a chart showing how bad it is and then they're like "well Nielsen isn't reliable for bs reason xyz" and then i'm like okay here are the Luminate numbers...it fell off the luminate charts after the fourth week after placing 9th place. And then they come up with another bs reason to say it's not a real way to measure it. It's super annoying because I spent a lot of time gathering the data and they just don't want to believe the numbers presented in front of their faces

[@NIX-FLIX]

Who would’ve thought that a show that had nonsensical writing and actors who looked constantly confused would’ve failed

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

And yet still out-preformed Andor, which should go to show the nature of the average Star Wars fan.

[@NIX-FLIX]

@@Lobsterwithinternet Andor don’t perform as well because of the nature of the show it’s like they released glup shitto the movie he is a character who appears in one movie and was pretty one sided but the show blew all expectations out of the water (I do have my problems with it mainly in the set design) but it’s still amazing

[@kimmccarthy7747]

That in itself right there tipped me off that something was wrong with the show. The only stills they ever released showed the actors, especially the one man, looking confused, and lost. No smiles, no other expression, How do you draw in viewers with one expression?

[@caleblim6890]

⁠@@Lobsterwithinternetreally? Obviously there’s no truly accurate information on this, but practically all estimations have Acolyte underperforming in views against Andor, and critically as well. It hasn’t affected the zeitgeist, not even internally. Andor broke even into the “mainstream” KZbin culture (see film KZbinrs like Thomas Flight) while no one, as far as I can tell, has given it similar treatment.

[@Rakshiir]

@@caleblim6890 I thought the same, as far as I've seen, Andor didn't have great numbers when it released, but it wasn't as bad as the Acolyte. The main difference is: I know that many people watched it later (and most numbers you get are for a short time after release), something I don't think we will see with the Acolyte. So even if the Acolyte would have done better in the first week or two after release, I still hear and read many talk about how they liked Andor. I don't see that many people defending the Acolyte these days. In retrospect it is clear what show resonated more with the fans even if the first viewing numbers weren't spectacular

[@lllXavierllll]

The budget for Alien: Romulus was $80 million. Let that sink in.

[@brianalambert1192]

I want this show to be audited. I demand to know who skimmed from the top and how much of it was bribe money for the critics

[@elgerifico]

It wasn't money laundering, just sheer incompetence. Like with modern Western games, the incompetents they hire need ten times the budget and timeframe to make what people in the past could do better in a fraction of the time and money. While Skyrim isn't the best game around, it was made by 60 people, Starfield's dev team numbers in the 1000+ when accounting for in-house and outside contractors, and yet not only is it the worse game, but it also has less quests, side-quests and dungeons than a game made more than a decade ago.

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

​@@elgerificoI'm betting for some it was money laundering.

[@hanging4176]

@@elgerificoHalo 2 was developed by an underfunded dev team on an enormous time crunch and launched missing 30% of the content it was supposed to have and was still a greater success than Halo 4, 5, & Infinite combined. When you don’t cut corners on products that require passion & a shared vision you can create something people will love. When you’re lazy, inept, and solely focused on mass production & money you get products like Halo Infinite & Modern Star Wars. Products so soulless only genuine shill’s could sit there and try to convince you is worth your time the way it’s presented.

[@BittermanAndy]

Criminal that Andor seems to be ranked only just about Ahsoka on viewing figures, and behind Boba Fett and Kenobi... Kenobi is one of the worst series I've ever seen, and it got 50% more views than Andor? Just heartbreaking.

[@timothychapman269]

Because the prior series (Kenobi & Boba Fett) were not as well received as they would have been had they been better productions, people were dropping Disney+ subscriptions or just completely ignoring anything Disney Star Wars by the time they were finished. Thus when a quality show comes out, the fans were gone/checked out. But hopefully with the fact that over time Andor's viewership grew, perhaps it could be a good sign for the 2nd and last season. I know lots of people who are now watching Andor for the first time.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

@@timothychapman269 Fans should be discerning enough to ignore obvious garbage like Kenobi.

[@fiktivhistoriker345]

Kenobi had the better known name in the title, so i guess more people gave it a try. And it had lightsaber fights, even if they seemed to be nonsensical. Why have Vader fighting Kenobi before ep.4?

[@ValosiTiamata]

Hey Thor, I've also been watching the Plagueis movie over the past week, and I think they've hit upon something vital to Star Wars that Disney Lucasfilm has been completely overlooking. When you look at Andor, the show was broken up into three episode arcs, making it essentially a series of movies. And what makes those "movies" stand out is the sheer amount of downtime between action scenes. We tend to remember the OT for its action scenes, especially those not fortunate enough to have seen the original theatrical releases before George tried to get rid of all the original copies. However, when you look back at the pre-SE movies, there was a LOT of downtime where we got to know the characters and what makes them tick. We had moments where we see them doing maintenance, sitting around playing games, or just talking about the past. Andor had this, and that's one of the reasons the series has become something of a cult hit among older fans but was deemed boring by many younger fans. Meanwhile, Plagueis doesn't shy away from slow points and long conversations. In fact, the vast majority of the first hour is all talk and no action. Granted, this will turn a lot of people off, but those that sit and watch will see a complex tapestry form. In that hour we see a seedy ship's crew trying to deal with a potential threat, how Plagueis obtains a new and valuable droid, the purchase of an entire peninsula and how to take full advantage of a fallen "comrade"... When we look at all of the failures in the DLF franchise, the lack of intrigue and downtime really starts to stick out. Mando had a lot of small downtime moments throughout the first two seasons and it remains one of the most powerful entries in DLF's history. Rogue One also had a lot of downtime moments and it became one of (if not THE) most beloved movies in DLF's Star Wars run. So is it just me, or is the obsession with Jedi, Sith, lightsaber duels, and space battles the very thing that is linked to defining Star Wars and also what's destroying it? What if more shows include plenty of downtime for us to see the characters for who they really are, flaws and all? What if they spend more time showing the gears turning and less time showing the clock itself? Maybe, just maybe, what Star Wars needs the most is to relax a little and not be afraid to show us those non-event moments so we, the viewers, can more closely relate to the characters as people instead of heroes.

[@staycationsound]

Exactly. Star Wars itself is actually the downtime scenes as you describe. When Luke, Obi-Wan, Han, Chewbacca and the droids are just hanging out as they travel to Alderaan, you get to see the characters express who they are and their points of view on the world they live in. Obi-Wan is telling Luke to trust the Force while Han is saying its some old religion he doesn’t believe in. Chewbacca and R2D2 get in a fight over a boardgame. C-3P0 tries to mediate the situation. In one scene we learn so much about each character just by talking about life. You never see these types of scenes in Disney Star Wars because they need to go from boring action scene to boring action scene with unestablished characters that you don’t know and therefore don’t care about. If they spent 30 seconds actually establishing relationships instead of having all the dialogue push the plot forward, those fights scenes would matter.

[@Vicious0Sephiroth]

The problem with the fights was it was clear they were using toy lightsabers and they forgot to add the actual SFX to the lightsabers to really make them glow while they were swinging them. If you watch, you can see as they swibg the sabers they get dim at certain angles.

[@kmm7753]

Is this why the Disney plus shows have 10 minutes of end credits

[@Kevin_Street]

There really is a correlation. The Star Wars and Marvel shows are shot like movies, with a similar amount of post production work. It costs a lot of money compared to how TV shows are usually made. My theory (no idea if it's true) is that Headland doesn't have enough experience to know how to save money. She's been the Executive Producer of a lot of shows before this, but Acolyte is her first time as an official showrunner.

[@JadeRabbit-je4gd]

Dude that animated Plagueis film was amazing for what little they had to work with. It's crazy how if you adapt something that's already popular then it usually turns out well. They should be giving that guy $180 million because it would absolutely turn out better than anything Disney has done so far.

[@marcneef795]

NOW it is complete!

[@devonhickey3302]

Andor had literally nothing going for it, and to perform as well as it did is liberating.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Goes to show how much goodwill just being a good show gets you.

[@Aetoski]

You mean that boring show with unintelligent writing? it actually did not perform well... he just showed the numbers the one where TOP SECRET projects for a galactic empire are done by human labor when droids and things like the Star Forge exist? that show? the one whre the senators are never in the actual senate? the one where cereal was a plot point?

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@Aetoski 1. The show addresses this as prisoners are cheaper and more disposable. Not to mention the Starforge isn't canon and even if it was, it was destroyed millennia ago. 2. THAT’S KIND OF THE POINT AS THE SENATORS DIDN’T CARE ABOUT DOING THEIR JOBS. 3. Cereal wasn't a plot point at all. All this shows me is that your ADHD prevents you from focusing on anything that isn't flashing and glowing.

[@Aetoski]

@@Lobsterwithinternet 1. a throw away line doesn't make that true as much as you want to believe it 2. that doesn't make for good television 3. it was and you know it. stop projecting.. its embarassing for you

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@Aetoski 1. Then what is true if you simply ignore what the show is showing or telling you? You're just making up your own canon at that point. 2. And what would? Another pointless lightsaber fight? The senators in a cage match? 3. Goes to show you haven't even watched the show. The only one being embarrassed is the kid who can't pay attention to a TV show without a lightsaber on screen.

[@threadsketch7267]

RE: the Plagueis fanfilm - that's exactly why I enjoy fanfic more than official media now, because passionate and wonderfully creative fans who really care take the time and effort to produce something superior (and I'm speaking as one of them myself, even though I no longer have the time to write around my full-time factory job). Hell, I've fixed terribly executed scenes from most of the Disney+ shows in less than 10 minutes with just a little more thought put into the dialogue. It's tragic that it's not even difficult to craft something better (I don't mean that it's effortless, as I'm sure it was a profound amount of work to make that fanfilm; I mean that it's not very hard to come up with better ideas than the garbage Disney keeps trying to serve us). You've had some of those great ideas yourself, Thor.

[@saberiandream316]

Wait, there's a Plagueis fan film? Is it adapting the EU book?

[@kimmccarthy7747]

Fanfic is written by intelligent people who want to do stuff you can imagine the actors saying and doing. There also used to be editors who also knew the material, and would call the writer out on anything that struck as out of character, impossible to do, or dumb, and helped them get things right. Where are those editors today?

[@fiktivhistoriker345]

Sorry, why should i be interested in Darth P? He's bad, he stays hidden and i heard that he get's killed before ep.1. Nothing i would deal with if i were a producer.

[@EverestProductionsFanFilms]

@@fiktivhistoriker345 Easy. If you go by the novel, Plagueis is responsible for most of what happens to prequels. He raised Sidious as his apprentice and helped his political rise to power. He influences Sifo Dyas to look into the Kaminoan cloning and Republic army as well as the Kaminoans himself. There is so many small details, like he helped fund and build the generator room in the Duel of the Fates (which is symbolic). His philosophies and plotting is carried on by Sidious, who becomes the main character in the second half of the novel and himself plots, influencing characters such as Dooku and raising Darth Maul. Because of how well the novel is written, the Plagueis novel is seen as the 'holy bible' of SW literature and fills the holes that many complain about the prequels especially the Phantom Menace. Plagueis himself is an enigma of evil, only surpassed by the one who would usurp him and create Darth Vader.

[@threadsketch7267]

@@fiktivhistoriker345 You could say the same of Andor - we know he's a Rebel and he gets blown up at the end of Rogue One, and yet we've gotten the best Disney SW show out of a character whose end we know and doesn't have further influence on the franchise, because the show is actually more about the people around him than him, and the ripple effect his choices have. A good storyteller can still tell something compelling with this sort of situation, which is exactly why the Darth Plagueis novel is so appreciated by much of the book-loving fandom.

[@opwave79]

And there’s still people trying to “explain” this series to those “who just don’t understand it” . As if that’s justification to renew the show.

[@dixonsimpkins905]

If it's not on the page, it's not on the stage... If Disney had spent even a fraction of that budget on a competent script writer, it could have been something

[@MrNoscopeJones]

I hate that I'm in a position where I'm hoping star wars will fail. But that's where I'm at

[@dylanmart6007]

What’s also sad about Disney is that they still don’t get it. They’re still going to keep using the same formula for their projects

[@saberiandream316]

It's why these issues are going to outlast Kathleen Kennedy. She's just a figurehead for what fans have had a hard time adapting to for the last ten years, which is the _excessive_ corporatizing of Star Wars. It was run like a small company before that. No more. It's big, and it's lame.

[@dylanmart6007]

@@saberiandream316 absolutely, she has very little control of the actual substance in the shows and movies. She does set the criteria of what is to be included to some extent but yeah. She should be looking at how these things are doing and try changing things up

[@XFLexiconMatt]

Of course Headland will blame the public and not look at herself.

[@brianalambert1192]

It is absolutely shameful that the Old Republic cinematics exist and provide a blueprint for exactly what Star Wars fans want and yet Disney can't seem to put it together after a decade

[@saberiandream316]

They abandoned the source material ten years ago, and they're either too stupid or too proud to reverse course on that decision.

[@Malleus_77]

The Old Republic is the only thing I like about Star Wars now, I hope they NEVER touch it.

[@Pedroz0r]

@@saberiandream316 its not about being stupid or proud, its about not wanting to pay other people a share for using already stablished stories and characters, it just comes down to money

[@lukeluke333lukeluke]

True but do we want the current Disney to make KOTOR? Beucase I don't. I love KOTOR and don't want to imagine them ruining another great Star Wars content.

[@kenmercadante4565]

The Acolyte is the first Star Wars show I stopped watching before the end (I dropped out during episode 3). The characters and story were so clearly sacrificed for the agenda I had no interest in subjecting myself to it (and I have no interest in revisiting it later). I will give Skeleton Crew a try, but my tolerance threshold going forward will be much lower. Andor was an absolute masterpiece, and I can't wait for Season 2, and I still can't understand why viewers aren't swarming to it.

[@AmazingMrMe123]

That is so much money. I saw that Ryan Reynolds recently said money and time can kill a project, and I wonder if thats part of what happened. They leaned on the budget and special effects and killed the priority of good writing. Idk, really horrifying amount of money. Speaking of fan projects, while somewhat of a parody For The Empire here on youtube has been telling the story of stormtroopers becoming disillusioned with the empire and the writing has been much better than a lot of recent Star Wars. And its just one guy writing and animating.

[@JonasGrumby-OO]

It won’t be enough to make a good show now. They will need to make consistently good shows and maybe slowly coax the audience back. It’s gone too far for "if we make a good show, everyone will watch." That’s in the past

[@jarbear2179]

180 million therapy session … who would have guessed it didn’t succeed!

[@smintili]

I love how different the concept of tv prime time is from country to country. We had ours on Friday 8.15pm in the linear tv era, something that in the US is called Friday night death slot. Somehow that amazes me immensely.

[@GoldenValleyPictures]

The failure is now complete. Now I am the master - Leslie Headland to Rian Johnson

[@ioncewasmikey]

Only a master of cringe, Darth!

[@nathank2289]

For a more fair comparison. The first Deadpool cost just under 60 million, made 700 million back, and had a known actor in it.

[@-AtomsPhere-]

I think Godzilla minus one was actually only like 11-14 million

[@filippvarelis1999]

Just to remind everyone, it's more than 10x more expensive than Godzilla -1

[@hakimzane]

Funny thing is that Lucasfilm will count the finale showing up in the top 10 as a victory. They'll NEVER change with the current regime. I stand by the thought that everyone needs to go.

[@Etymon-jt3zw]

Disney would've been better off if they had just held a contest from the start for the best fan fiction and let the winner write and direct all the Star Wars movies then do what they did. Which only leads me to believe they destroyed the Star Wars franchise intentionally.

[@achaudhari101]

Not intentionally.

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

​@@achaudhari101Definitely intentionally. It's literally what George was warning us about with the prequels.

[@jon8234]

@achaudhari101 can you fuck out of this comment section, you're really out here wasting your time replying to half the comments in this video with bait or two word sentences. Stop wasting your time.

[@fiktivhistoriker345]

Maybe Lucas put KK in charge to ruin Disney?

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

@@fiktivhistoriker345 Think he'd do that...?

[@Anerisian]

So you’re saying people watch Star Wars when it is with swashbuckling serial adventure with likeable characters, like the hugely popular Original Trilogy that started it all? And they don’t like random other genre formats, Filoni fanfiction, or with stoic or sociopathic characters not so much? Huge surprise.

[@achaudhari101]

Filoni is not fanfiction if his stuff is praised as Star Wars. Your hatred towards him is not real like your apathy is not real.

[@joshuacompton2500]

​@@achaudhari101I appreciate your longer and more substantive comments this time around. However you still seem to tell people how they are feeling. If you could let me know how you figured out that this person is lying about their feelings I would love it. This skill is very impressive.

[@achaudhari101]

I consider the hatred towards him to be obtuse considering that people somehow hate what he does despite his stuff being better praised like the animated shows for example. I mean Ahsoka S1 isn’t the worst show out there and people somehow think he needs the pink slip because of it rather than letting him cook some more for the second season when that happens.

[@joshuacompton2500]

@@achaudhari101 Okayyyy. And what does this have to do with the commenters feelings not being "real". Again, how do you know how the commenter feels?

[@saberiandream316]

I'm glad people are finally turning the blinders off Filoni. The dude isn't everything legions of delusional fanboys want to believe he is.

[@Markvanleerdam]

great comparison made to the fanfilm from Everest productions. Imagine if they got 180 million dollars to make their plagueis series. it could revive alot of the star wars fanbase

[@Hello-bi1pm]

And invite James Luceno, Disney would get pissed a writer has to get royalties

[@elessar60]

I love how the image of the Disney castle has empire logos on it! ROFLMAO

[@Mikeygee99]

Thor, how many of the watched minutes were to “hate watch”? I only watched to see the disaster that it was

[@JoRoq1]

Same here. I only finished it so I could honestly say I saw it for myself. But whether or not those numbers include hate-watching, the point is that the interest in the series (in either direction) was abysmal for the amount of resources put into it.

[@cahe6161]

Bro if you're gonna do that don't do it through Disney +

[@Goldmaaaaan]

Find a way to watch it that doesn’t require giving a watch count statistic to Disney+

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

If you're going to hate watch you need to sail the high seas.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Why did you do that? No one can tell you’re hate watching it.

[@carolbriscoe9337]

According to your own surveys, folks just weren't interested in watching the series. My curiosity demanded I see it through to discover the truth of what happened. It wasn't the story, the effects, the settings nor the acting which drew me.

[@vestarakhai5303]

I can see them doing a S2 out of spite but numbers don't lie

[@bryanfrazier4648]

KK, LH and AS drove away half of the audience before the were even done filming. All the polls I've seen say that 60% of respondents didn't even bother watching.

[@theartofpqh]

I was starting to forget about this show....then you pull me back in :( lol

[@HoodedSpidey]

I wish I could forget this trainwreck. It manages to introduce and assassinate its own original characters in one season, a “feat” not even GoT or TLOU2 accomplished.

[@matsw8283]

Just when you thought that you had crawled clear of the Sarlacc, a tentacle lashes out and...

[@dereklopez9060]

​@HoodedSpidey That's Disney SW in a nutshell. Butchering their own characters and they can't even keep their own canon straight.

[@dereklopez9060]

I got that reference.

[@mckayhatch6723]

The more I heard the actors talk about the show the less I wanted to watch it. Gave it two episodes and I gave up. Not surprised by these results. Give us likable characters with compelling stories. We got that with Mando Season 1 and 2. Also with Rogue One and Andor. Stop pushing the message and let’s get back to good, fun entertainment.

[@mamelandro3972]

Honestly, both in the previous and the recent interview Lee Jung-Jae and Manny Jacinto are the only ones who makes sense. They are actually answering the questions and I'm sure if the questions were a bit deeper they could be able to explore their characters. Of course, there are writing limits to this but you see the commitment of these actors compared to the "travel to Disneyland" kind of attitude of the others

[@alexpoilrouge8574]

Acolyte is the only official StarWars content I've renounced to watch asap in over 20 years. Will never watch it. And I will also renounce any more shit that doesn't respect the lore and the watcher. Why should I keep giving money to Disney to waste my time? Shame on Disney, I'm like the easiest person to trap with the sunk cost fallacy, and they can't even manage that. Enough is enough.

[@brendenskywalker5165]

My brother is the only other person that I actually know who has even watched The Acolyte, and that's because I asked him to so I would have someone to talk to about the show. No one else has even bothered to watch it. People have given up on streaming Star Wars.

[@illydeewilliams3045]

Make $180 million disappear with this one simple trick! (Star Wars fans hate him)

[@TheRealLiark]

Haven’t watched all of the Plagueis movie but it’s great so far. Imagine if they even had one million dollars to make it.

[@kelticowl9400]

Spectacle is everywhere and it isn't a draw just an expectation now, the substance and story are what make things worth watching

[@miragewizard]

I'm not surprised with the Nielsen ratings. What does surprise me is that Disney has such a haphazard, lame excuse for quality control, letting a divisive sorry excuse for a series such as this be made, and yet they made the right call on Zack Snyder's mess. And they get mad and blame it on the fans after letting it be made public that they spent $180 million on this mess, and wonder why we have such high expectations? And here's the kicker: Disney bought and was gifted with STAR WARS, the most successful franchise ever, and they now find themselves with a head executive who wants to quit (Kathleen Kennedy) but can't because she wants to go out on a high note. What surprises me is the COMPLETE and utter IMPOTENCE of the failure of the people running this complete and utter mess that has become STAR WARS. That's what surprises me.

[@DainRiffgin89]

The sad truth is that it is the norm for fan projects to have more heart and soul put into them than their corporate counterparts, and how the difference in quality is staggering. And it is not just Star Wars: looking at the game space shows you everything you need to know. From the Custom Campaigns in Starcraft 2 and Warcraft 3 (Chronicles of the Second War was epic, can't wait for the Alliance campaign), to the mods for about any PC game under the sun (except Starfield, since the game is so broken the modders have given up), specifically the recently released Fallout: London, which is far more impressive than anything Bethesda has come out with recently. Just yesterday Activision shut down a free MW2 Remastered Multiplayer mod that ran exclusively on retail, legitimate copies of Modern Warfare: Remastered (which meant every person who wanted to play the mod, they would need to buy a copy of MW:R and give Activision money) which the modders were never going to monetize in the first place. It truly feels like all the passion and creativity has been sucked out of the entertainment industry as a whole, with only a few small studios that still put out quality products. As for Star Wars, The Acolyte won't change things, so long as KK and her ilk are in charge. Only when she's gone, Bob is gone, and all of her cronies are gone, will we every have a prayer of getting good Star Wars again.

[@Pwn3dbyth3n00b]

Well they cancelled Season 2

[@kingbooomer9231]

Kathleen "Gimme a Win" Kennedy should've really thought through on burning 180 million dollars if she wanted to retire

[@achaudhari101]

Either Skeleton Crew or Andor. Which one?

[@kingbooomer9231]

@@achaudhari101 My guess is neither

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

It's an investment in making the "woke left" look bad so the executives can get huge tax cuts.

[@Flaris]

It’s definitely sad how badly the Acolyte failed. People want better and if they don’t give it to us then we won’t watch. If I want cool fights I’ll just watch the fights from the Phantom Menace, etc again.

[@pabhk]

After The Acolyte, I can't wait to see what Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy has in store for us with her Star Wars Bollywood Special.

[@briankim1098]

8:07 Star Wars Theory made the Vader Fanfilm a trillion times better than anything Disney made. The next one is coming soon too and I can NOT wait!

[@lukejochem]

Woah ease up there fanboy. Theory's 1st film was ok agreed, and I'm also looking forward to the 2nd, but don't you go having "delusions of grandeur" about him 😉 ..

[@coda7994]

I didn't realize the numbers were that bad, holy cow

[@Amoschp524]

Did anyone else read Thor's title in Darth Vader's voice? It reminded me of Vader's line in Return of Jedi about Obi-wan's failure.

[@KODIAK-ij4yg]

The Darth Maul fan film made years ago for no way near 180 million destroys the entire Acolyte series in every way possible!!!!

[@grey9524]

You got my attention with that title that was catchy! Just subscribed.

[@atomicmonkey101]

This Old Republic cinematic trailers do more for Star Wars story telling than most Disney Plus shows. I rewatch them every now and then just to remind myself what Star Wars could be.

[@saberiandream316]

And yet I'd rather wish they'd take the money for SWTOR cinematics and invest that in some new EU as Legends books. It's not impossible, it's happened once before, but only once, which is a damn shame.

[@StabbyMcStomp]

Id love to see a breakdown of that 180 MILLION.. how the fuck lol

[@darthfader7414]

Disney Plus is an overpriced streaming platform now & was not when The Mandalorian aired S1 or S2. If it wasn’t set to automatically renew I would not have paid for this year as price is well trumpy.

[@Mgauge]

This is what happens when you let an incompetent writer burn an obscene amount of money on their fanfiction vanity project.

[@ericprint3576]

I never thought growing up I'd lose my interest in star wars, I had so much faith in the book of boba fett and mando season 3 and both failed. Nothing has felt inspirational in a long time and I don't care anymore for what comes out from Disney. I wish things went differently but I'd say they really are milking any sliver of passion from the past and smothering it with lackluster misunderstanding of what drove star wars. Heart, loss, and perseverance something that made you remorse or continue with joy.

[@A21-EDITS21]

Just focus on the good not the bad. And Just focus on the good moments in some shows. That's what I do. But the way people go about hating stuff sometimes is disappointing.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

People like Kathleen Kennedy make a big deal about changing culture and that includes behind the scenes. On a macro level we know different cultures produce different societies. For example a culture that doesn't value widespread literacy will struggle to make any kind of economic progress. Over the past few years we've that a cultural change can have profound effects on a micro level as well. Star Wars fans expect Star Wars to be something the current culture at Lucasfilm is incapable of creating. We've seen something similar with Star Trek, the MCU, and DC and Marvel Comics.

[@TheN1ghtwalker]

You see, they don't care about $180 million. They need your attention, they need you talking about it and they succeeded.

[@yoavmor9002]

Wow Andor's 9th episode was the only one to not crack top 10? That's crazy. It was the best episode by far

[@11481]

Months ago, those of us who could see the writing on the walls were called haters. Those of us who could connect the dots from press releases, trailers, past releases and people involved were called awful names. We were told "don't judge it until you see it!!! Turned out to be exactly what we said it would be, and maybe even worse.

[@achaudhari101]

Not entirely. Chris Gore was definitely wrong on the two episodes breaking the franchise.

[@hoos3014]

When you hate a show before the first episode drops you definitely earn your title.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@hoos3014When the creators and actors hype a show or movie by talking about anything _except_ the show or movie, that show or movie is almost certainly going to suck. Stop cheapening the word "hate". It makes you look childish.

[@hoos3014]

@@BiggieTrismegistus People going batshit crazy over a show no one had seen a single frame of is a perfectly appropriate use of the term hate.

[@inotaishu1]

I was not surprised about anything negative that came out about this show as it already started badly when it was first announced via a Variety article instead of an official Disney announcement.

[@louisblackforester]

180M $ plus promotion cost ! If it were a movie it needs to made at least 350M $ to break even.

[@seanmccann1961]

I got a notification for this video. Never clicked it and then it was gone. Didn’t click it cause I wanted to come back when I had time. Weird. Also you don’t pop up in my main run ever, I have the bell rung but yeah idk if that’s shadowbanning or if it’s just me but figured I’d put it out here. Love the work you do for the real community.

[@bryanblackburn6928]

@6:15 The saddest part is that it used to be.

[@FalkFlak]

Disney never pondered if they'd gone too far in some regard..

[@НеАнтон-ы2э]

Remember the star wars fan film awards from the 00's?

[@vematsos]

We should all stop using the term "special effects." Maybe in the 90s, they were special, but now they're just effects 😂

[@CallumQuinnCreates]

It’s sad how divided the fan base has become. We should stand as one. And it’s embarrassing how badly Disney has tarnished the Star Wars brand. More and more I find myself driven to creator owned/ small studio projects. When it’s either be a successful story and please your fans or go out of business, for some reason you tend to get better results.

[@tedtalk9999]

In my opinion, Kenobi was the only show with that had a light sabers in it frequently that felt not like why include light sabers just because light sabers that’s the big part of Star Wars. That’s probably why people didn’t really watch the show because story matters more than light sabers swinging around.

[@hollyslaski2217]

Oh yeah! I watched the Plagueis fan film and loved every minute of it.

[@Toshiro93]

I am of the opinion that Lucasfilm has burned a lot of the fan base that had been created in the ten year hiatus before the Disney trilogy. A decade without films, but with the memory of the prequels, and with other interesting products to maintain interest in the saga, including books, comics and video games and Lego sets. Besides Clone Wars, of course. Now I don't think there is the same desire to give the benefit of the doubt anymore: the production has churned out too many poor quality products, ending up sinking even those that started off well (The Mandalorian), or had potential on paper (Book of Boba Fett, if played as an action series, showing the bounty hunter during the Imperial era, would have been a great foil to the Mando). I'm not surprised that many no longer want to be made fun of, and it's only the production that has to take responsibility, there's no use shielding themselves behind excuses like "it's the fault of the detractors, or -ists of some kind if the series hasn't achieved the results hope!", and things like that.

[@achaudhari101]

Fans can be a problem too.

[@Toshiro93]

@@achaudhari101 Only if the latter make sensible criticisms and these are not listened to. Then the fans become a problem for the production, I agree.

[@saberiandream316]

Funny how Lucasfilm claims they want honest criticism, yet the ONLY complaints they're willing to address are those voiced from a right-wing viewpoint. Gee, it's almost as if they don't want to admit when they've made mistakes or something!

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@achaudhari101For sure. How dare the fans not like something?

[@Toshiro93]

@@saberiandream316 Ever since TFA was released, there had been critical voices, highlighting the antics of that film and how they could damage the following films and, by extension, all the previous six films. Curiously, it turned out that the skeptics' predictions turned out to be right. Where I come from, they say "to think badly is a sin. But often you get it right"

[@MsCherryKiss]

view numbers: Mandalorian: Good show Kenobi: Popular Named Character Boba Fett: PNC Andor: Good show Ahsoka: PNC Acolyte: neither good nor with a popular character definitely not surprising numbers on the final episode views Disney has "meh"ed so many shows now that who cares to watch anymore?? I've only debated going back to D+ for Andor, but chose not to bother. D+ doesn't have much to interest me anymore

[@fakshen1973]

Please interview the folks that made Darth Plagus. A recorded Zoom call with with editing would be fine... even without faces. Have them give you cuts of the scenes they or you most want to talk about. Just no shi''ting on Disney. They may work in the industry or not ruin some relationships. It would be nice to see an entire video aboutvsomething awesome in Star Wars. If it works out, you could interview other creators behind fan-fiction creations.

[@hatuletoh]

Passion and talent can do more with a few bucks than self-important hacks can do with a few hundred million. It's a.damn shame that Star Wars is dead when they're are clearly so many great stories that could have been told, but at this point it's time to mothball the franchise for a decade or so.

[@shadowofchaos8932]

KZbin homemade fanfic videos are better. Support fanfic media!

[@kenknowlton3085]

Hope Thor is feeling better

[@demomanchaos]

According to insider's the last episode only had about 10% the viewership of the first two (Another fun fact, the numbers they are giving for the first two episodes are not views per episode but the two episodes combined).

[@Vertical_Horizons]

Dune 2 had a similar budget and you can definitely see that on screen and put to good use unlike The Acolyte that looked like amateurish CW shows

[@qturemcqueen]

It’s always ironic to know how well Andor did and how pretty much everyone loves it and yet it was the only show that nobody really cared for when it was first announced