The Advanced Heroquest Project - Oldhammer Citadel Miniatures | Skaven, Chaos Warriors & Undead

Always Board Never Boring loves Advanced Heroquest and has set himself the foolish challenge of trying to collect as many of the miniatures showcased in the various rules and expansion content as possible. In this video we look at five miniatures that he has added to his collection during this (very) long-term project, occasionally drifting off along a little side trail on memory lane. ABNB also explains why there hasn't been any painting videos on the channel for a while.
Here are some time stamps for you:
00:00 Intro
00:45 Advanced Heroquest minis
01:26 Skree the Slaver
02:12 Warpfire thrower
03:13 Ennio Mordini
05:27 Chaos Sorcerer
06:37 Final thoughts
Oh, and apologies to any German-speakers. Languages never were my strong suit.
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[@Wilberon_McBane]

That Chaos Sorcerer truly is a bad ass 🤘

[@73Xerxes]

Metal bringing back the old days of lead base... minis I recall them and still have a few. Good to see that they are still out there and can be picked up. The eye site issue was horrible when I hit my forties. The glasses came with a birthday card and been wearing since then. Still adjusting... Nice pick up can't wait to see how you get them colors on them .

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm hoping to dive back into painting now. I'm still getting used to the glasses, but at least I can see what I'm doing again.

[@73Xerxes]

Yeah, me too.. another adjustment in the way of life.

[@WLMjolnir]

Great additions. I was the same with my vision a couple of years ago. I was very frustrated till I realised I needed glasses. I also use magnification when painting now and I'm better than ever

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah mine went quite suddenly and it's just taken a while for me to get around to sorting it. Hopefully I can get back on track now.

[@onionhat745]

That Sorcerer was actually advertised as being Nurgle-aligned too, in multiple catalogs over the years. The scythe, hood and tattered robes do tilt it toward Nurgle, I think.

[@NikoTeaJay]

Good to hear you're managing with aging eye sight. Crazy to hear how suddenly it happened, but I guess once best-before date hits it hits. And great to see some hero quest get painted up.

[@cjanquart]

Dang, I've never seen that Skaven slaver before and I was a fan of Skaven back in the day. Also never got that Clan Mors Warlord.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I have that Clan Mors Warlord in my collection. They really are such great miniatures.

[@blackraptor311]

I have that Chaos Champion with the scythe. Love those classics.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's a wonderful miniature. Almost every monster card for Advanced Heroquest has a classic on it.

[@eisenphx980]

Awesome mini's! The glass make you look distinguished ;-)

[@robodog3571]

I cant tell you how happy i am to see you doing this. please keep sharing its fantastic

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm really pleased you're enjoying looking at some of these old classics. Thanks.

[@nickellingham1764]

This is my favourite channel plus my most sought-after game. I had nearly all those skaven way back when. I used to think the old skaven of that period looked like nice friendly "good guy" rats lol..... I loved that skeleton army set. I had 2 myself at the same time the imperial spacemarine plastic rogue trader box came out. Happy days,!! Jess Goidwin sculpts are so good - pure masterpieces. Those old chaos warriors look amazing - Ive neven even seen most of them.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Thank you so much for the kind words. That's really high praise. Everything from this period was Games Workshop just knocking it out of the park. The skeleton army was an absolute joy, especially for a school kid without a lot of money looking to build a terrifying horde like I was.

[@nickellingham1764]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring same. I was born in 1981 and found warhammer aged 6 or 7 so remember the old stuff really well. My monthly WD subscription brought me endless joy.....but £1.50 a week pocket money not too many miniatures very often!

[@jonathan2950]

Dang. I’ve been happily planning to use proxies for the monsters on the Adv HQ monster cards, similar but not the actual miniatures, but now you’ve gone and provided names and even catalogue codes for these miniatures I’m just going to have to try and buy them aren’t I? 😂 I definitely need more Skaven anyway, I only have the standard ones from Adv HQ and WHQ’95. Can’t wait to see your painting videos for these miniatures.

[@patriarch7237]

Sorry you are joining the poor eyesight club. A couple of things have really helped me: "Daylight" desktop lamp with magnifying lens - this is pretty much standard for me - the lens is big enough to cover an entire large miniature, and the light obviously means details are easy to see. I use this for anything beyond drybrushing and washing. Head mounted magnifiers for very detailed work. Again comes with a light (charged up from USB). Can be a bit uncomfortable for prolonged use, so save it for when you are doing lots of close detail work. Fun bonus is you can pretend you are a cyborg Adeptus Mechanicus weirdo whenever anyone walks in on you painting. The one bonus of poorer eyesight is that the flaws on your completed miniatures become much less apparent when you play with them!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It doesn't really bother me, and it's only a minor prescription at the moment. I already have a big overhead light bar. It's a bit different for me shooting videos, because I have a camera setup too, and I have to keep switching between painting through the viewfinder of the camera and painting normally so I want to keep the additional contraptions and paraphernalia to a minimum while I can.

[@ellesse3862]

Now thats an eyepatch, obviously that Skaven is tough as old boots. Never seen it before, instantly love it, another Jes gem. Scathe the Tainted & Flem, I know them well, theyre in my Skaven army/collection too. The leader of the skeleton regiment, great find, the time I spent admiring those in WD .. excellent undead hero miniature. Its true, that chaos champion is a badass, Jew Goodwin may have been possessed by the great powers when he was knocking out masterpieces like a machine in the golden age, those 47 Realm of Chaos champions are still keeping collectors crying on ebay decades later. Super additions to your ADHQ collection, look forward to seeing what they look like painted. Sorry to hear your painting has been slowed by the curse of Nurgle's Entropy, luckilly Spectacles of Restorative Vision as prescribed by the sisterhood of Shallya should help. My hobbying has also been spoiled by the ravages of time this year, arm pain with numbness in my handsI keep dropping my miniatures an brush, like my poor halfpainted batch of Moulder Skaven .. its a work in progress.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Jes Goodwin hit every single design out of the park in this era. His skaven and chaos warriors are absolutely superb. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and I'm sorry to hear you've been having arm pains. I hope that eases up soon and you can get back to those skaven.

[@daviddupont517]

I had glasses all my life. You will be ok. Welcome to the team. Nice fig too

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm not worried about wearing glasses, it was just a bit alarming how quickly it happened and how much it impacted on getting new painting videos done for the channel. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner considering I spend most of my life staring at a computer screen, or staring through a viewfinder while painting or playing games!

[@daviddupont517]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring glad to see more paint video then

[@Mailed-Knight]

Great vid.

[@EnDungeoned]

Nice!

[@aaronchiusano8732]

Oh yeah, using readers when painting is a must for me. As long as the minis are tabletop ready, that's a win in my book, no display works for me lol.

[@simonphelon7221]

I feel your pain. I had to start wearing glasses just before I hit 40 and at about 46 I couldn’t focus on the minis to paint anymore. I was quite down until I found an illuminated magnifying glass on an armature in an electronics shop. My painting has never been better, it feels a bit like cheating sometimes.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I already have a light rig and then paint through a camera lens, so I'm hoping I don't have to add any more attachments to my painting area for a while!

[@Demonsub]

As my glasses are for long vision I now find I have to take them off when doing really small details like faces. It’s a pain of growing older.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's taking some getting used to. If I look away from what I'm doing quickly it still catches me off guard how blurry everything at distance is!

[@Mark-nh2hs]

I always saw the Chaos Mini as a Follower of Nurgle lol with the weapon and shroud look and horns

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I can see your point, but he's far too slim, and doesn't have enough boils. This miniature was from 1988, when Slaves to Darkness came out. Nurgle and Tzeentch were covered in 1990 when The Lost and the Damned came out.

[@Mark-nh2hs]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring not all Nurgle followers from this time period were bloated - that's been a more recent thing. There is a Nurgle Champion/Wizard who looks like an emaciated man - which came out during the slave to darkness period of 1988 - although there are the slightly bloated Nurgle types and other which are clearly Nurgle but are slimmer lol

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@Mark-nh2hs sorry I was making a joke about how nurgle followers are normally presented. I think the devil horns are the clear indicator of a Khorne follower. They are so metal.

[@stueybhoy]

Nice mini’s.

[@kharnifex]

The chaos champions are superb

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

They are great. They all have so much character.

[@jayandreas1131]

Great minis

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

They're really good. The stuff from this era is my favourite.

[@jayandreas1131]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring it’s the era I started playing too: Heroquest->Advanced ->Warhammer Quest

[@nickellingham1764]

I got my AHQ copy delivered today. 100% complete with all doors in full working order!.....£140 was a very fair price I feel. The box is immaculate and all tiles/tokens look freshley punched and rule book could have been printed yesterday its in such good nic. I just noticed myself too that my 1987 Giant Rat Oger is indeed the very one depicted for the game so hes the start of my own collection now im afraid. I doubt I would ever mannage to aquire the full lot but should mannage to find enough proxy equivilants to make the grade! All I want now is a month or 2 covid lockdown so I can stay at home, paint my heros, henchmen and "Syberian hamsters" then begin my solo adventure!!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Sounds like a great score. Well done. I hope you have a lot of fun with the game.

[@robertlykins728]

I’ve got so many old warhammer minis when they was still made of metal!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

One of my big regrets is selling every Citadel miniature I owned when I went to university. Full undead, dwarf and goblin armies, and dozens of boxed games. Everything went. It's terrifying to think how much it would all be worth today. It would be one heck of a college fund for the kids, I know that much!

[@robertlykins728]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring absolutely hindsight is 20/20! Facts! ❤️ sorry you had to let it all go but circumstances dictate!

[@johnmiddleton4291]

Nice haul of vintage minis. I've worn reading glasses for painting since my mid 30s. It improves your painting dramatically, whether you need them or not yet, and it's surprising how easy it makes hitting details and layering edge highlights. Not to even mention how amazingingly detailed the minis look on the table without glasses at the end. The most annoying thing about eyesight as we age is playing boardgames with lots of card text (always small because manufacturers think mini cards and abridged novels on a card are great) and having to constantly be removing them to view the board comfortably and put hem on again to read something. It is going to require a set of bifocal prescriptions most likely.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I think it's going to be good, but I am still in the stage of getting used to them so they feel a bit obvious and distracting at the moment, and I keep forgetting to remove them when I look up and then I feel a bit drunk. Funny you should mention mini cards because just before I got the glasses I had to stop playing Dark Souls. The small equipment cards were far too tiny to read when holding them normally (my eyesight is fine when sitting at a table and reading something of regular size on the tabletop) and of course, as soon as I brought them closer to my face they became completely illegible.

[@johnmiddleton4291]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Yup. It's really annoying. I dug out Imperial Assault and have been playing through the campaign and FFGs use of mini cards alternating with regular cards with loads of text in multiple fonts and italics is a pain.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I've still never played Imperial Assault. I'm not that interested in Star Wars and every time I thought about picking it up something else came along, and now it feels like one of those games that just sailed me by.

[@johnmiddleton4291]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Most themed boardgames are a variant on Star Wars, LotR, D&D, or WWII. May as well go to the source.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Ha. That's fair enough. I would add Alien/s in that list for good measure!

[@robertlykins728]

I’ve always had glasses no big deal mate makes you look more refined!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I don't mind having glasses. I just need to get used to them. I'm still in the stage where it feels a bit weird wearing them.

[@robertlykins728]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring you will be fine! ❤️ the channel can’t wait to see a how to play for masters of the universe game thanks in advance & I understand its a two player game with only limited solo rules!

[@robertlykins728]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring ❤️❤️💯

[@Stuffandstuff974]

The future is now old man

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

You're not the boss of me.

[@JMcMillen]

I always thought that the "shield boss" was supposed to be glued the the skeletons arm so you'd have a place to mount the shield. That would explain why no other kit came with them as other kits at the time included a shield mount peg on models that were supposed to have shields. Also, there are no pictures of the Skeleton Horde or Army where they are used as a "shield boss".

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Some of the skeletons photographed on the army box have the bosses on their shields.

[@JMcMillen]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring If they did it's not that easy to tell. Especially looking at the box itself, which I still have even 30 years later.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It’s on the side panel of the lid. There are a few with the bosses, although most don’t use them.

[@JMcMillen]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring They aren't very obvious and if you weren't expecting them to be used that way, they are easily confused for just a circle on the paint job. Especially as this wasn't on the Skeleton Horde box pictures so what were some people supposed to think they were used for. Shield bosses became less common, historically, once people started strapping the shield to their arm and didn't just hold it in their hand.

[@spacedock873]

🤣 I've had to use magnifying goggles for a few years now! Welcome to the old gits club!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Oh I've been in the old gits club for a while now. I just can't hide it anymore!

[@dalelewis625]

Lol!! My eyesight is the exact reason why im no longer painting. Everything is blurry!

[@dalelewis625]

And I remember that skeleton army very well! The first one I ever battled!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

When did we get old? (Some people would unkindly suggest about 10 years ago. We won't listen to them.)

[@JayFFAFAlesanaES]

How much dod the chaos sorcerer set you back? Mine was advertised as a sorcerer of Nurgle and cost me a not-so-cool £50.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I don't believe it was ever officially listed as a Nurgle champion so the seller might have been making an assumption. I picked up mine for around £25, but I've definitely seen it for more than that. Prices are getting stupid.

[@JayFFAFAlesanaES]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Yeah, I was also a bit confused but happy to find it as I'd been searching a while. The really elusive models seem to be the Orc Warchief and Chaos Thug, though. I can't even find information on past sales for those 2! I might actually buy recasts of those if they become available somewhere tbh. Btw, have you/will you done/do a video on painting these old metal minis? I liked your video on the Cursed City model. :)

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@JayFFAFAlesanaES He is one of the harder ones to find, although Slambo is the one that is really going to hurt the wallet. I have the modern iteration of him, but would love a classic. Chaos thugs are very hard to find, and a whole bunch more of them turn in up Advanced Heroquest expansion content, which is a bit of a pain. I will be painting Advanced Heroquest on the channel, but it will be using traditional methods rather than Speedpaints.

[@JayFFAFAlesanaES]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I was able to find Slambo for 25 on ebay a while back, but was watching a number of others at the time and then he sold! Luckily I found another on Facebook but he was painted and rather oddly with words written on him ("Love" and "Kill") haha I admire the painters vision, but I will most likely strip him and repaint with something more in line with the game artwork. I look forward to the video as I didn't want to use speed painting methods such as contrast paints for these old metals, either. I may sneak in some contrast paints here and there, though. Hope you're doing well btw, mate :)

[@nickellingham1764]

I might even part with my 1980s giant rat oger if you want him? Hes the one witout a sword. You would put him to better use than me I'm certain!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I am very much in the market for the rat ogre. That would be amazing. If you would like to send me an email using the email under the "About" section of my KZbin page, or send me a private message through Facebook, we can discuss further.

[@nickellingham1764]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I will get him out of the box and email you direct. If I decidev to part with him I don't even want a penny for it - seeing him on your channel and featured in future games is worth more to me than a few quid to me! He's painted in humbrol oil on bare metal by myself when I was 8 or 9 so needs a bit of TLC!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That would be an incredible gift. All donations are gratefully received and really do go a long way to help the channel run, but don't part with anything unless you are sure - No backsies is still a rule in these parts!

[@nickellingham1764]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring of course! Lol. I was much fonder of the one with the sword anyway. This guy just has two clenched fists

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Well, as it happens, two clenched fists is the rat ogre that appears on the Advanced Heroquest monster card so is the one I am most interested in.

[@HivisoftheScale]

Huh... You kinda remind me of Simon Pegg...

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Well I can't say I've ever been told that before. I suppose there are worse people to look like!

[@HivisoftheScale]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yeah, people always tell me I look like hell. Not sure who that is, but he must not look good!