Should You Get This 2025 SR5 Toyota 4runner With A Third Row?

[@TacTony]

ABSOLUTELY no excuse for a truck that costs $43k to not have powered seats and 4 wheel drive

[@TheMikeshannon]

The 4wd is 44k. It's right on par with everything that's remotely similar, seeing as how the bronco is the only "competition" and is still significantly different. If you want it to come down in price go fire up Nissan and have them build the xterra for cheaper. Because that's about it, and its been discontinued for 10 years.

[@LifeCycle1978]

You are out of touch with the world and sound like my 90 year old grandfather

[@MegaCityOne]

@@TheMikeshannon Honestly, powered driver & passenger seats should be base model normal nowadays. Just like power windows. I also think the JBL sound system should be base model normal. The only thing that should come with higher trims are 4wheel drive/suspension, giant info-tainment screen, and leather seats & all the heated seats, steering wheel bells & whistles.

[@julioc.guevara3658]

The black SR5 looks really nice! I wish they would've kept the old SR5 wheels from previous generations. I feel like that was always a staple, kind of like the back window lol

[@crack_of_dawn]

"affordable" lol. Base model no frills for $43k? What a ripoff. It doesn't even come with 4wd for that price.

[@roydaone]

at 44k it does

[@ALMX5DP]

He mentioned it’s only $70 more than the outgoing model which I never heard complaints about.

[@ytj22]

​@@ALMX5DP bUt THat wUN had tHe V6!#@.

[@joshlamar1990]

@@ALMX5DPyea but once these hit dealer lots prices will be closer to 50k

[@ALMX5DP]

@@joshlamar1990 why would that be? As with any new model there may be a brief time that interest outweighs supply but after production ramps up over a month or two should be no different to the prior gen right? And going by many comments, if the new vehicle is inferior to the old one there may not even be any ADM right?

[@r6mt09]

the real AWD 4runner starts at $55k no this bullshit sr5 marketing model. toyota has lost its core value of being affordable.

[@TRDJon]

The core of buyers are sr5. And it starts for $70 more. So no…they didn’t.

[@bubba4072]

Jon, the SR5 trim looks really good! 4WD would be nice. I'm surprised that's not on all of them. Thanks for showing us the SR5 trim.

[@TRDJon]

Yea this was a 2Runner lol

[@305kubrick]

I bought a 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander late last year. I was the 2nd owner. It too has the 4 cylinder turbo engine. Coming from a 2019 Acura MDX you can feel the difference in power. The GH was loud and felt under powered. I imagine the same can be said about this 2025 Forerunner. Even the new Land Cruisers have 4 cylinder turbos! Needless to say, I traded the Toyota within a month for a 2024 Acura MDX and am much happier with my V6 engine.

[@AndrewMcDonald]

Looking at all hard plastic inside, I’m getting 1985 Tercel vibes.

[@castandblast1852]

I actually like the smaller infotainment screen a little better. Nothing wrong with a Sr5. I would like the trd off road myself just for the skid plates and Locker.

[@Offshore1977]

5th gen with 3rd row seats offered sliding 2nd row to give more leg room to 3rd row passengers not to mention better headroom due to higher roof line.

[@castandblast1852]

I laugh at all the hater comments. Every manufacture is using turbos except for Nissan in the frontier and jeep in the gladiator. The bronco uses a turbo and the prices are the same. Heck, ford has been putting turbos in the f150 for over 10 years. Everyone wants to cry over prices- yeah they are higher, but everything is higher. I would say Toyota is on par with the rest of the brands. Reliability- this is not the turbos of the 80s and 90s. My truck is a turbo and it’s really fun to drive. People need to stop being close minded or just stick with your previous generation. But the average new car price in the US is 47k. That’s not a Toyota problem, that’s the reality of the world we live in.

[@Anomize23]

Just say you enjoy spending more for less value. Thats what you meant😉

[@beri232]

I wish I had John’s bank account. His idea of “affordable” is much different than mine. Lol

[@1rstTry]

Just become a tech bro

[@TRDJon]

Don’t wish. Do brother. 👍🏼

[@jdl.1234]

This is why I bought a Terra 2024. plus It looks good next to my 2013 FJ

[@wrcarmack561]

I would love that 1st gen to be sitting in my driveway.

[@BlueSTI]

I like the new 4RUNNER but sucks they really bare bones these new gens. Pretty much this and the base offroad get nothing unless you get a premium

[@markchevalier3572]

$43k for no 4WD?! What a steal!! You know, for the dealer 🤣🤣

[@neokumar6146]

Could’ve sworn that the SR5 didn’t have the option for heated seats on Toyota’s site so i was confused when all the models had it. Thanks for confirming!

[@brianhiltz1307]

I’m looking at buying the 2025 4 runner platinum trim. With the I force max. I like the underground color with black on it.

[@TRDJon]

Solid

[@TheMikeshannon]

Pretty cool it has the same gauge setup as the $60k LC 1958 😂

[@tedlulis973]

It's best to stay away from the total 💩 show that Toyota has become..🤮😢

[@andrewward4246]

heated seats standard in Canada on SR5 also starts at $39,260 USD or $57kCAD and thats for 4wd too

[@ChrisDriven]

Thanks for the video Jon! I can’t wait to be able to explore this generation 4 Runner myself. It’s too bad they don’t have an SR5 premium. I feel like overall that is the best trim to get especially coming with blacked out TRD wheels, off-road tires (as an option), heated seats and steering wheel, plus the strap that Toyota decided to take off now…

[@LiquidSm0ke]

Do they have greasable zerks or sealed ones ?

[@is6566]

I don’t know about the zerks but the dealerships have grease-able jerks for sure. 😃

[@tnkstudio4622]

That's a lot of money for a little plastic truck. Toyota had lost their mind. $43K plus dealers' mark up and the garbage that dealers added.

[@tacosportsareawesome]

I like the lighter colored seats so the interior doesn’t look like a dark dungeon.

[@DarthNero]

Same here. Hate an all dark/black interiors. It gets super hot in the summer & makes me feel like im sitting in a dark secluded place.

[@Bord-nk3sn]

I'm keeping my 2018 SR5 forever.

[@TRDJon]

Nice!

[@vittalrajamanikam8792]

I thought those 3 vertical lines beside a chair image were for heating?

[@TRDJon]

Yes it is. These are pre production models

[@vittalrajamanikam8792]

@@TRDJon thanks. I did go to a Toyota dealer at Washington and they told me these heaters are on SR5 Premiums. I dont see any of these, so I have no clue what they were talking about. You can't even build them in during manufacturing, its not offered. Even worse, they told me it could be on an aftermarket installation. I just feel a little let down, as the SR5 was the top of the range on the outgoing generation...the least Toyota could have done was to match it.

[@TRDJon]

There is no more sr5 premium. So that dealer is a little uneducated

[@mark8684]

Do the non-hybrid ICE versions have auto start/stop? If so, I haven’t seen a defeat button in any videos. Of course, I understand the hybrid versions will not have auto start/stop.

[@NotYoCheese714]

The outgoing gen looks way better . The only thing that this might be better is that it’s a little faster .

[@TRDJon]

Better driving, better mpg, modern tech, and performance yep.

[@NotYoCheese714]

@ none of that matters when there’s is reliability

[@NotYoCheese714]

No

[@ytj22]

@@NotYoCheese714 How is the reliability on this model that nobody owns yet?

[@NotYoCheese714]

@ it’s common sense .

[@noahgumushian2000]

Thanks for showing the affordable trim 👍

[@xenogears5177]

"affordable"

[@joshlamar1990]

Affordable how after you add 4wd and dealerships add there 2k window tint and 3k predator step bars 50k for a base model.

[@noahgumushian2000]

@ I don't know where you get window tint but i got my whole car done for $300 for my honda. I do agree that its not really "affordable" but that's the lowest trim. I wouldn't get the step bars anyways.

[@TRDJon]

You’re welcome!

[@TRDJon]

Shop at a different dealer bro. Plenty of good ones out there.

[@LiquidSm0ke]

There’s been quite a few 8 speed failures in the Highlanders I hope Toyotas fixed it

[@TRDJon]

I think they have. This is a different trans though

[@sturomain]

The rear hatch handle. Looked to have 2 buttons on it shaped like an up down arrow. Is that for the rear window?

[@TheMikeshannon]

Yep same as the 5th gen.

[@ofacefan]

rear seats look like less space than the 5th gen ?

[@bigozzy710]

will there be an sr5 premium?

[@TRDJon]

Not at the moment

[@joetaravella13]

there’s more plastic on the exterior of that thing than on an episode of The Kardashians

[@BrianNC81]

Sucks they got rid of the SR5 premium trim.

[@MusicLuv80]

great review but as a Toyota lover who owns several, I will not be buying Toyota vehicles anymore. Just too expensive. Consumers are not dumb, we struggle to make money everyday but yet these companies taking advantage of customer is not cool.

[@CrippleCreekStudios]

Appreciate the overview of the SR5.

[@TRDJon]

Thanks for the support as always man.

[@bjsimon802]

can you test drive all the trims?

[@lorenzosorice]

Meh. Not complaining about the price of the SR5, but I wish there was a "premium" trim that gives you at least auto softex seats and the auto hatch. Tack on 4WD and it has pretty much everything most 4R buyers need. Having to jump up 12k to the TRD Sport Premium is too big of an increase.

[@r6mt09]

Not awd, not hybrid 👎👎👎👎

[@TheMikeshannon]

Buy a limited or a platinum. This is the base, and most of us don't want awd

[@TRDJon]

They have those models.

[@motominima6420]

Can someone confirm if the SR5 has a spare tire/wheel of any type? I understand only the higher trims have a full size spare (which is lame.)

[@Thankyou_3]

I hate the blackout look. The previous generation looked perfect. This new generation doesn’t look cohesive. Even the 4Runner nameplate on the back door looks out of place.

[@ytj22]

Standard heated seats for SR5 in Canada

[@Grayson_Fazed]

Which is nice but I wish they had a standard heated steering wheel on the SR5 as well for Canada. All vehicles in Canada should have this. I’m sure it’s not that much of a cost for the manufacture

[@ytj22]

@Grayson_Fazed I agree

[@TRDJon]

Nice!

[@saiket1735]

no pull up sunshades for the rear doors? how much does such item really cost when Toyota can charge $40k for a SUV?

[@irfanspace]

I checked the Toyota SR5 Basic Edition document on the press release website. It states that the basic model comes with A-TRAC, but I don't see an on/off button on any of the models. Does it actually have A-TRAC?"

[@TheMikeshannon]

A-trac is normally up by the dome light but I believe this is a 2wd model so I dont think it would have it

[@TheMikeshannon]

If you compare the sr5 and sr5 4wd in the trim comparison thing it lists it as "Part-time 4-Wheel Drive (4WD) with electronically controlled 2-speed transfer case (high/low range) and Active Traction Control (A-TRAC)" so I'd assume only on 4wd models.

[@Ghostridergt]

Long time fan of your work bro! The 6th gen looks too much like an old Isuzu Rodeo with the stock 17s. 5th gen or Sequoia for me!

[@eighty6films]

I’ll take 4WD & no 3rd row (plus a giant discount) Seriously how many people do you know with a 3rd row that use it in such a small vehicle anyways?!?

[@ytj22]

Only in a pinch. Head out to supper, concert, sporting event and don't want to take 2 vehicles. Ours only gets used a couple of times per year, but it is convenient. Not ideal for long trips. In that case, minivan.

[@Yogi5D]

Now make it $35k and then we're talking.

[@mrk8521]

I'd rather have the old one next to it. Too bad that thing also goes for 40+ in that condition these days. Lol

[@ytj22]

How much was the old one?

[@kalvinvang2006]

Feel like it could've been fully color matched like the previous sr5

[@danf321]

And ALL dealers add $$$ markup to 4Runners, Land Cruisers, Broncos, Land Rovers, etc. WHY?

[@BigHouse907]

I like the first gen better. 😂

[@Sween77]

Hey Jon. What is your thought about buying 1st year of a redesign. In this case of course the motor has been around and is somewhat tested and proven. And the interior is from the taco. The platform has a few years on it as well. But still it’s a 1st year. Thoughts?

[@sammyjammy6647]

Also keep in mind that it’s still made in Japan so the quality control should be top-notch. I myself would not worry about buying a first year in this particular case.

[@TRDJon]

Tbh I have no issues with it at all

[@jonathank7667]

My 2016 4runner SR-5 (not the premium package: i.e only cloth seats - no moon roof - manual rear view mirror) has power driver seat and softex on all the door parts - no cheap plastic. The only upgrades I paid for was Navigation, 4WD, and 3rd row seats. This one looks really cheap to me. Disappointed quite frankly. Of course my 2007 SR5 had automatic climate control - single zone. It's crazy that Toyota keeps on delivering less but charging more. This is not the way to motivate me to buy a new vehicle. I won't be buying a 2025+ anytime soon.

[@showranchy05]

Better get forester wilderness with more features 😂

[@stej43]

People complaining about the price are still in 2010 but yea it looks real good for 40k but we all know the dealerships are gonna put 10k markups on em.

[@soledadmonstabreh]

Just a thought here. 1st, 3rd and 5th generation the popular beloved generation. I call em the odd (number) gens. So the 2nd, 4th, and now 6th (even numbered) generation not the popular ones. So I’ll wait till the 7th gen.

[@TheMikeshannon]

We might never see a 7th gen with how long the 5th gen was around 😂

[@nickh509]

Canada's starting price is $57k

[@mikemay8334]

Wait..did he say $43k and cost saving? I guess I’m old fashioned, but I remember when $43k was how much you’d pay for a house.😢

[@TRDJon]

Yea back in the 60s for sure.

[@mikemay8334]

@ , actually, it wasn’t that long ago. It was during the mortgage crisis. I bought 5 houses for under $50k each. And then sold them for a nice profit. But unlike real estate , car values don’t ever go up after they leave the dealership. They usually drop faster than Diddy’s pants.

[@TRDJon]

All situational. Remember during Covid during a car shortage? People were buy and selling cars for a profit.

[@sammyjammy6647]

I think if you opt for no third row in the SR5, you should get more backseat legroom by pulling a lever underneath the seat which will give you an extra two or 3 inches.

[@Jimmhout]

Only one I am considering. Just hope that aftermarket or some tech people figure out the screen size swap

[@Lips801]

Car camping, would 3rd row make more sense id assume? Just the way it sits somewhat flat.

[@TheMikeshannon]

It does seem like it's flatter with the 3rd row version than the 2 row only. But 3rd row only comes as an option on limited and sr5's

[@luigig3867]

I was just in the new tacoma and the interior had alot of hard plastic and looked really cheap. That big computer monitor slapped onto the dash just shows that there was no attention dedicated to the interior design. The powertrain is another joke with it's 4 cylinder turbo & crappy 8 speed transmission.

[@jP-nw7nm]

The 1st Gen is looking at he 6th gen as the 1st child from the original family with all the good memories and the 6th gen is the new kid dad had with the gold digger 2 divorces later… 👀

[@kmzoilus2486]

Ahahahaha 😂 affordable . My 2016 limited with every option was $44k.

[@06XTOR]

The plastic fenders look horrible and that tiny little cheap screen inside.. Wow

[@RuthSchultz-b5w]

No 4x4! Very poor for that price ??

[@WinterBonus]

I guess you can add an aftermarket rear locker later and it would be a TRD Offroad model.

[@TRDJon]

You could ya

[@Jimmhout]

Good thing it has all the blanks so I can add heated seats lol

[@joshknutson16]

The size difference is INSANE, pretty sure my 2 seat convertible is wider than that 1st gen lol

[@OutdoorHorizonsWK2]

Wow. That price? That’s the interior and features of a $20k car from a decade ago 😂

[@TRDJon]

Yep.

[@RuthSchultz-b5w]

No hybrid?no way. I pass on it thanks!

[@TRDJon]

Not on the sr5 model

[@bigfootswatching9986]

TRD JON.....I can bet you non of these 4Runners will start at $40k price!!!! More like upper $47-$50k base!!!

[@TRDJon]

The MSRP is 40K. So they will start there.

[@bigfootswatching9986]

@@TRDJon Please show us proof once you see them at the Dealers.

[@markderoller7645]

With 4wd and without 3rd row it's $44K. That would be my configuration

[@TRDPRIME]

I might just go for the off road premium iforce 4cyl turbo not sure what color yet still thinking.

[@nubbins70]

Cant say i like the $57k price, but let's be honest in canada in 2025 no one will like the price of any car, old or new. SR5 looks have really been growing on me and tbh the price could be a helluvalot worse. I hate most of the bells and whistles that Toyota is charging an arm and a leg for anyway. No OR in canada so it's a big price jump to ORP, almost $10k.

[@joegrahe3958]

No incentive to replace my 2015 with 220k miles.

[@JJJ5.7]

Cloth and plastic everywhere for $55k. Hmmm.

[@ggarrison1087]

that 2 inch bezel on the 8 inch screen is just a shame fest for base buyers

[@jes3363]

No tanks passport have v6

[@TRDJon]

And unibody

[@OscarSchneegans]

Needs a manual transmission.

[@TRDJon]

No high demand to warrant it

[@darrengalante6746]

yeah right affordable for who. toyota prices are a hard no. coming from tacoma owner

[@TRDJon]

40K isn’t expensive man…you may need a new job.

[@sorryyodohna]

"I wish Toyota offered a premium version of the SR5 trim level."

[@michaelmedina4413]

😂 heated seats interruption was classic 👏 👏 👏

[@archer7141]

interior looks cheap and low quality compared to the previous generation.

[@dhsemp]

Toyota’s prices are getting out of control… disappointing.

[@TRDJon]

It’s $70 more

[@dhsemp]

$10K higher for the SR5 4-Wheel drive version - at least compared to 5th Gen that I bought brand new - not to mention no standard power seats, no external mirror blinkers, no matching painted fender flares, and no major improvements to the plastic based interior. No thanks, I’ll keep my 5th Gen!

[@keyhere]

looks like in canada they are only offering 3rd row on the limited sadly

[@nubbins70]

In Canada all sr5s are apparently 3 row, no option for 5 seat. Less choice for Canadians as usual. Fortunately we do get heated seats standard

[@MountainAdventures1]

What a joke.

[@ttang256]

the interiors are pathetic.

[@asherkothapalli]

at 42K SR5 its better than 4 door Bronco Base

[@r6mt09]

crap mpg. expensive, unreliable, toyota dealership sucks

[@TRDJon]

Better mpg. How are they unreliable?

[@benjaminkoerper]

this sucks

[@subbystyle]

Jon, just saw you in Talon Sei's video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/imTFdauCrMR5gs0si=0KYR0W5xLhtuqC4f&t=840

[@regular_person1239]

I was starting to like this video before until the guy came in and said, and it does not have heated seats who needs heated seats. Idiot only if you’re an old person, of course

[@TRDJon]

Well maybe you should turn your hearing aids up then. Cuz I said that it doesn’t offer it and for some reason these vehicles had it when they weren’t suppose to per Toyotas website. Then I proceeded to give a thumbs down…

[@marydrew3568]

☹️ I think it is not at all good looking. I really do not like the plastic black fender trim and the handles. I'll be keeping my 5th gen with the naturally aspirated v6.

[@623simon]

Honda passport is looking better at this price point.

[@ytj22]

If you don't need a truck, then a Passport would be a good choice, correct.

[@DarthNero]

@@ytj22most 4runner owners buy them for daily commute needs. Only few ever take them to an actual offroad. People would do fine with a N/A V6 passport that offers better ride quality.

[@xenogears5177]

43k... Wasn't that TRD Pro money like 2 years ago..? lol

[@TheMikeshannon]

Nope, somehow people forget the outgoing sr5 4wd was 43k

[@TRDJon]

No. Like 8 years ago

[@xenogears5177]

@@TRDJon Just looked on motortrend, original price in 2022 was $46.5k... now its $65k.. just saying

[@TRDJon]

Look up 2024