The Alice in Wonderland Analog Horror is Back

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@expgoat
@expgoat 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for all your support for Alice in Dreams, I really appreciate it. ♥️⏱️🐇
@papa--smurf
@papa--smurf Ай бұрын
You have to understand the "og" in analog was cut off when I get the notification
@qixiaotianmonkiekid4789
@qixiaotianmonkiekid4789 Ай бұрын
oh no-
@Totallynotredtail
@Totallynotredtail Ай бұрын
*ANAL HORROR*
@LobsterMobster25
@LobsterMobster25 Ай бұрын
This is so funny to me I'm so immature
@PIZZAdayisback
@PIZZAdayisback Ай бұрын
Master Chief: WAIT, THAT'S ILLEGAL!
@scaredmongoose.7027
@scaredmongoose.7027 Ай бұрын
WHAAAAAT
@UltimatBlitz
@UltimatBlitz Ай бұрын
"Let's make Alice in Wonderland a psychological horror!" "So... Alice in Wonderland?" "Yeah, kinda."
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess Ай бұрын
Yellow-belly…
@sashao5o4
@sashao5o4 29 күн бұрын
@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess ?
@senorapples1115
@senorapples1115 26 күн бұрын
I mean its actually horrific than whimsy
@ilovemywhiteshoes
@ilovemywhiteshoes 22 күн бұрын
just like that h game
@garbagecrow9886
@garbagecrow9886 Ай бұрын
I kinda thought the twins might have actually been a reference to Fran Bow, specifically the section where you wake up in the house of conjoined twins Clara and Mia, who dress in blue as well and also have a sort of puppet show detailing what happened to them.
@HiddenDarkHM
@HiddenDarkHM Ай бұрын
Yeah I totally thought so too, it made me wonder if it was either a reference to Fran Bow, or if Fran Bow is actually referencing some part of the original Alice and Wonderland books I'm unaware of.
@garbagecrow9886
@garbagecrow9886 Ай бұрын
@@HiddenDarkHM I'd say probably the first one. I have actually read both the origunal Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass books and neither feature anything related to conjoined twins putting on a puppet show for Alice.
@Roanie-t3d
@Roanie-t3d 27 күн бұрын
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT TOO 😭
@soulthesadcat6007
@soulthesadcat6007 26 күн бұрын
I was thinking this too, because in the actual game there's a reference to Alice and Fran knowing each other. There's a picture of her Alice in like a closet in her in the last segment of the game! Fran even talks about how Alice has a friend who's a talking or something about the white rabbit. Please forgive if I don't remember exactly what happened, it's been a few years since I've seen a full play through of the game.
@garbagecrow9886
@garbagecrow9886 26 күн бұрын
@@soulthesadcat6007 You are indeed correct!
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 Ай бұрын
fun fact: The real Alice Liddell was going to marry Queen victoria's son, but because of alice's background Because Louis Carol wrote a story about her. She didn't want her son to marry a girl who had a story about her going to a mad land
@GamerMage2k-kl4iq
@GamerMage2k-kl4iq Ай бұрын
When a fictional story about you saves you from an arranged Marriage:
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 Ай бұрын
Another fun fact: Alice Liddell did come to america in 1909 when she was about ninety six years old, where a statue was dedicated to her in New york City. This statue can be found in Central Park
@tatumyourmuns
@tatumyourmuns Ай бұрын
that doesn't make any sense. in 1909, alice was been 57. either way, she died at 82.
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess Ай бұрын
@@tatumyourmunsLearn English.
@tatumyourmuns
@tatumyourmuns Ай бұрын
@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess what????? i don't understand. i'm sorry if a 14 year old's comment is triggering you 💗 i was just trying to correct their mistake.
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 29 күн бұрын
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess I might be wrong on the year, but who Knows , I know that she came to america because there are photos of her that exist
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 29 күн бұрын
@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess also I'm 18
@incompletemachine877
@incompletemachine877 24 күн бұрын
One thing I think is worth mentioning about the twin scene is that it could be interpreted as referencing a Callostomy, which is a procedure that severs the interconnections (corpus callosum) between the left and right hemisphere of the brain. It is not a lobotomy (which is generally not used at all any more) nor used to treat psychiatric conditions but as a last-resort procedure in cases of severe epilepsy that aren't responding to drugs. It has a number of well known and quite fascinating side effects on the mind of the person who undergoes it but generally not anything like the side effects of a lobotomy; quite apart from anything else modern techniques are infinitely more precise than jamming a pick into your brain...though they do involve separating the lobes with a spatula.
@LostMirror232
@LostMirror232 Ай бұрын
I will admit, Im not sure that the queen that became the sheep was the red queen, but instead the white queen. Shes often depicted in both adaptions and the book itself as a nicer, but ultimately ineffectual counterpart to the red queen. So perhaps thats why shes associated with the sheep in that scene.
@dolliermakes9602
@dolliermakes9602 Ай бұрын
I don't think the queen we see is The Red Queen but in instead The White Queen from The Looking Glass which in that book everything is in reverse. I believe she might represent a version of Alice that she's wished to be but is held back due to her lobotomy, a part of herself that possibly in a lot of pain. Or it could represent who she once was but now restrained, the sheep screaming could be representing how Alice used to "yell" and "become violent" when in reality she was just a sheep in pain. Idk there could be a lot of ways you could see what The White Queen represents but that's just my take.
@JudgeNicodemus
@JudgeNicodemus Ай бұрын
Alice in Wonderland? That shit is borderline horror without any alterations!
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess Ай бұрын
Yellow-belly…
@OzziesStarfield
@OzziesStarfield Ай бұрын
This rlly reminds me of Fran bow ( the twins designs, the asllyum and escaping it and falling down a hole)
@chaosmachines934
@chaosmachines934 Ай бұрын
YEAH me too or even the edgy allice in wonderland games from i think 2007 maybe 2005 i grow up in a great year .
@brianeagan8628
@brianeagan8628 Ай бұрын
possiblye could be mashing them together.
@chaosmachines934
@chaosmachines934 Ай бұрын
@@brianeagan8628 hm
@conq1273
@conq1273 Ай бұрын
​@@chaosmachines934 American McGee's Alice is great especially on the reveal in the sequel
@thiagofirmo2389
@thiagofirmo2389 Ай бұрын
Its not "that this is slowly eating you", it's "that thing is..."
@kiaradp82
@kiaradp82 Ай бұрын
those twins gives me the wildest fran bow flashbacks...
@hapinald
@hapinald Ай бұрын
Nooooo you’re not a bad KZbinr, you did an amazing job exploring the space and providing us with 7-11 Cigarettes and Milk Also, Fun Fact, one of the living members of the Kennedy family spoke at my college graduation last May. The way he spoke around what happened to Rosemary while trying to inspire us unsettled me deeply, and has sat with me ever since-it’s given me a deeper appreciation for content that explores the horrors of the procedure in a respectful and interesting way, as well as analyses that approach it similarly. Thanks for covering the sequel, you killed it as always :)
@kitzia13
@kitzia13 Ай бұрын
im pretty sure that the twins’ design was based off of the twins in Franbow!! i forgot their names though i think it was Clara and Mia?? someone correct me if im wrong. also this whole thing reminds me of Alice Madness: Returns with that one scene of alice strapped in the bed with the black hair. her design is EXTREMELY similar to Alice Liddell from Alice Madness: Returns.
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 Ай бұрын
Another fun fact is that there is a church that has a glass stain of the characters from Wonderland and somewhere in london
@Waffleboy904
@Waffleboy904 Ай бұрын
5:42 “Alice picked up a bottle of lean and goes sippy sip”
@ladydrakkard3270
@ladydrakkard3270 Ай бұрын
The amount of research you are willing to put into your videos as well as the absolutely beautiful delivery is amazing. Also, you absolutely do not need the make up. I totally get putting it on though as I prefer to wear it when I go somewhere but you looks good with or without it. No need to make yourself miserable. We're here for you and your content regardless of any aesthetics. I was excited for your video when it came up in my notifications yesterday but wanted to be able to enjoy it when I wasn't distracted.
@TheSameGoobyGuy
@TheSameGoobyGuy Ай бұрын
Alice in wonderland *Alice in dreams* *ALICE IN VIETNAM*
@ignightroad
@ignightroad Ай бұрын
Soupy time >:) As someone with makeup allergies, I get it, I can't wear anything
@ribbonthesilly
@ribbonthesilly Ай бұрын
I thought you said 'story time' lol
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess Ай бұрын
Then don’t wear makeup…?
@sashao5o4
@sashao5o4 29 күн бұрын
@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess everyone wear makeup sometimes
@Danni-y6o
@Danni-y6o Ай бұрын
If I'm not mistaken I think Alice Liddel is also the name of the main character of the video game Alice the madness return as well as it's prequel. Though the one in the video games doesn't look like the iconic Alice you see in Alice in wonderland with blonde hair and blue eyes. Because the one in the video games has brown hair and green eyes.
@dorodumdum5630
@dorodumdum5630 Ай бұрын
Becouse she's inspired by the irl Alice too.
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess
@APoliticalConfusionAndMess Ай бұрын
Black hair 🙄
@dorodumdum5630
@dorodumdum5630 Ай бұрын
@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess well actually in American McGee's Alice, Alice has brown hair, but in Madness Returns she had a soft retcon and she was given black hair. In unreleased Alice Asylum she had brown hair again, it could be seen in a official design bible.
@Danni-y6o
@Danni-y6o Ай бұрын
@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess was her hair black, I thought it was dark brown. But maybe you are right and I'm not remembering it correctly.
@thequeen321
@thequeen321 27 күн бұрын
That character represents the white queen from the second book “Alice through the looking glass” where the white queen prick her fingers and starts to turn into a sheep yep that’s actually in the book There are actually 4 queens in total In Alice’s story, the queen of hearts, the red queen, the white queen and Alice herself, Alice turns into a queen at the end of the second book, the queen of hearts and the red queen are separate characters people usually confused the two, the red queen and white queen are chess themed, the queen of hearts is cards theme
@HallieBunney
@HallieBunney Ай бұрын
Alice has returned to cha cha real smooth down the rabbit hole…….OF LOBOTOMY!!!!
@sushicatX3
@sushicatX3 Ай бұрын
9:39 this of course makes Alice go WEEEE😇
@nathanielbarandrake2215
@nathanielbarandrake2215 Ай бұрын
FUN FACT: The twins in this short has the face's of the original illustrations of Alice by Sir John Tenniel from 1865
@МайяРябинина-у8з
@МайяРябинина-у8з 25 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the vibe with which you make your videos. Feels very honest and real, not overplayed, something that can't be said about most youtubers. Amazing work as per usual, you're one of my very favs on this site.
@zeffytherat
@zeffytherat Ай бұрын
I get this probably has nothing to do with the analog horror but I noticed that the twins looked much like the conjoined twins from Fran Bow In a lot of ways that game is also very Alice in Wonderland ish kinda Just thought that was a cool detail
@Vismyname21
@Vismyname21 Ай бұрын
Another great video from Soup dad, happy to see it! I do have an interpretation of the queen in the mirror tho. Given that she is clearly bound to the chess board and her head is that if a sheep, an animal associated with being a follower and docile, I think this queen represents Alice's mother who was unable to deal with Alice's illness. Constantly screaming and bleating at her to just be normal. I also believe she is the red queen as she would be the one responsible for sentencing Alice to her "beheading" at the end of an ice pick. The red Alice at the end would mean while she battled her demons, her Jabberwocky, this victory only came about in a way that led her to becoming more like her mother, at the cost of her individuality. Maybe I'm off the mark but t that's my thoughts on it.
@dorodumdum5630
@dorodumdum5630 Ай бұрын
Oh you should see some Alice Madness Returns stage costumes if you think those are very magical girl like
@jibby871
@jibby871 Ай бұрын
Dude ur only 22?? And you have a popular KZbin channel that's bad ass I'm 23 and always wanted one.
@HexxedFox666
@HexxedFox666 Ай бұрын
I just watched the last video so I could refresh my memory, and OH, MY GOD IS THIS EXCITING I love this. The lobotomy is such a horrendous and gruesome process to think about. I consider it to be one of the more invasive procedures, and its insane that they let it happen as long as it did. I can't help but think about how doctors found this information out. I don't think it's normal to stab someone through the eye socket into the brain 😭💀 Off topic kinda; I think being lobotomized would be interesting because I wonder how you'd really think compared to how you thought before. Love the video as always, Soups!! I await your next patiently!! :D ❤❤
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 Ай бұрын
How the doctors found it out? Oh. The usual way back then. By treating the patients as less as human beings and more as unwilling test subjects. And honestly. Lets be honest here, that attitude is still far too common in modern psychology. Im very very lucky I have a therapist and psychiatrist that actually listens to me and doesnt view me as lesser because I have mental health issues
@cro-magnoncarol4017
@cro-magnoncarol4017 19 күн бұрын
Humpy-Dumpy didn't even die by falling off the wall... They had one job!
@Lost_lucario
@Lost_lucario Ай бұрын
3 videos in one week soups lobotomy went well!!
@user-so4fx1pt3s
@user-so4fx1pt3s Ай бұрын
I think with all the chess references... I think the queen is supposed to be the white queen chess piece, and someone said in the comments that through the looks glass has a character named the white queen.
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 Ай бұрын
One Final Fact: Back in the victorian era Apparently, it was common for victorian parents to take pictures of their children being in nude or parocative clothing. there is one picture of alice ( this is not a fun fact This is completely disgusting and deranged )
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 Ай бұрын
Now normally I would just go: Eh its just nudity. Your parents changed your diapers and bathed you. But this is the Victorians. And they REALLY were weird about nudity and the addition of provocative clothing makes it just disgusting. however truly. We are not so far removed from them are we? Cough Child beauty pageants cough
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 Ай бұрын
​@elvingearmasterirma7241 Imagine toddlers and tiarez But this shit
@lime9836
@lime9836 12 күн бұрын
Im so happy its continuing! The 1st review of it was amazing and i was really hoping it wouldnt take long for an another entry. Great stuff per usual
@Ooooooo76
@Ooooooo76 Ай бұрын
Soupy soup I love your videos so much you make my day❤❤❤
@Daniel.Stop.Motion.Creations
@Daniel.Stop.Motion.Creations Ай бұрын
8:12 I have actually been to the place where Lewis Carroll was buried.
@Fourswad
@Fourswad Ай бұрын
those twins look like the twins from Franbow
@WhatAmI333
@WhatAmI333 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU SOUPY
@chaosmachines934
@chaosmachines934 Ай бұрын
LOVE THE THUMBNAIL
@mariemassie244
@mariemassie244 Ай бұрын
I have been watching your videos for a long time, you reminded me of my cat..
@cobaltwolf849
@cobaltwolf849 Ай бұрын
I watched the first video yesterday and today you posted this one, 5 stars, amazing service.
@sand1225
@sand1225 Ай бұрын
new soup just dropped
@TheSameGoobyGuy
@TheSameGoobyGuy 16 күн бұрын
Something I just realised is that the name “Alice through the looking glass” wasn’t made up and was an actual book
@layzeepop4148
@layzeepop4148 Ай бұрын
The name Lidell is pronounced Little, and I'd like to think it's also a reference to the game series 'American Mcgee's Alice', as well as the standalone sequel 'Alice: Madness Returns'. In it, Wonderland is a figment of Alice's imagination and she frequently enters it as she confronts both her trauma and her deteriorating mental state. Very cool game but disturbing themes
@mr.matchbox2710
@mr.matchbox2710 Ай бұрын
Who's this female Dracula Flow? She's funny 😅
@azazel_jpg4823
@azazel_jpg4823 Ай бұрын
God dayum Soupy's third vid this week? Well now I believe heaven is a thing
@NickieX3
@NickieX3 Ай бұрын
Soupysoup looks like they’d be the evil British accent mom of the main character in a Disney cartoon. (Nothing personal just messing around :P)
@SolaireHighwind
@SolaireHighwind Ай бұрын
The Queen she meets (whether it's the Red Queen or the White Queen or the Queen of Hearts or whatever) seems to be restrained by her wrists. Makes sense that restraints are a theme given what Alice is going through.
@briannabell3440
@briannabell3440 Ай бұрын
6:53 They also remind me a bit of Clara and Mia from Fran Bow. I know it's probably unintentional, but still, it's interesting
@ch3w
@ch3w 28 күн бұрын
the lobotomy and the look of alice while in the asylum reminds me of alice madness returns!
@amandatodd7197
@amandatodd7197 Ай бұрын
I just wanna point out that you can faintly see Queen Victoria in the bodice of the dress
@necroticdemonart
@necroticdemonart Ай бұрын
I just thought that this could help you. When I went to visit Llandudno in Wales there were statues of Alice in Wonderland characters everywhere, this was due to the author getting inspired when he visited the place. If you don't believe me its okay.
@da_googoober
@da_googoober Ай бұрын
Lovely how my favorite book got turned into this horrific acid trip/pos
@TheSameGoobyGuy
@TheSameGoobyGuy Ай бұрын
4:01 “There does seem to be evidence that Dodgson was not over-awed by the queen” *”Dodgson! Dodgson! We got Dodgson here!“*
@AlejandroGonzalez-no3ht
@AlejandroGonzalez-no3ht Ай бұрын
You're not a bad KZbinr, Soup. KZbinrs are not supposed to be authorities, and as far as I have seen you have never described yourself as one. If anything KZbinrs are supposed to be entertaining and truthful to who they are (at least more than legacy media people like Jimmy Fallon or something). Cut yourself a break, it's not that deep and it doesn't have to be. Best wishes!
@HiddenDarkHM
@HiddenDarkHM Ай бұрын
"It lives rent free in my brain." Well I know some early 1900s doctors who have a GREAT solution for tha- (Forgive the dark humor I couldn't resist, it was my first thought XD )
@renmiints6821
@renmiints6821 Ай бұрын
yay the soup is soupin
@-.DIO.-
@-.DIO.- Ай бұрын
"It's me when, me when, me when, when, when i, your mom when, when i"
@bunphomet666
@bunphomet666 Ай бұрын
instant click! i love watching your videos while i work 🥰
@PIZZAdayisback
@PIZZAdayisback Ай бұрын
13:39 no problem with not knowing things You're a pretty good KZbinr
@connorgibson3502
@connorgibson3502 Ай бұрын
If you play american mcgee's alice They say her name perfectly
@jjenk911
@jjenk911 Ай бұрын
A back-to-back Thursday SoupySoup videos? Did we win the fucking lottery? Anyway, the artwork reminds me of Fear & Hunger... If it took place in Wonderland.
@Jupiterr-w7w
@Jupiterr-w7w Ай бұрын
YIPPIE ITS SOUPING TIME :D!!!!!!!!!!! Its the middle of the night for me so this is perfect!
@PIZZAdayisback
@PIZZAdayisback Ай бұрын
3:23 no, i get it. It is pretty goofy
@skyrogue1977
@skyrogue1977 28 күн бұрын
That thumbnail reminds me of the long nose guy from Persona.
@KellyCalKelsey
@KellyCalKelsey 21 күн бұрын
I don’t know if this is intentional or not, but the Alice design here is extremely reminiscent of Alice from American McGee’s Alice (Peak Alice in the Wonderland-based horror) and in that game series, there are several allusions to lobotomy, in the second game, Alice dreams of being institutionalized and lobotomized, it’s extremely disturbing and dreary cause of how helpless she is, she doesn’t have her knife, she doesn’t have her gun, she can’t even move her arms.
@kestreldomann2787
@kestreldomann2787 Ай бұрын
"I'm 22 I don't remember anything" Soups you're an INFANT omg (I say knowing I'm only 3 years older than you)
@PIZZAdayisback
@PIZZAdayisback Ай бұрын
Brain development wise, you can say that!
@DragonicDancer99
@DragonicDancer99 Ай бұрын
Every doctor is gangsta until a white rabbit appears Love the video and Salute from south america
@3m0rta1
@3m0rta1 Ай бұрын
Enjoyed nothing more to say other than thank you for the enjoyment.
@Skuthulu-archives
@Skuthulu-archives Ай бұрын
YAY! I love cigarette milk!
@Watermeloncat588
@Watermeloncat588 28 күн бұрын
The conjoined twins remained me of the ones in Fran Bow
@straycat9967
@straycat9967 Ай бұрын
12:40 "Me when Its 120am and my roommate that does nothing but play Apex legends, wakes me up for the fourth time tonight with his 'BROO/NOOOO/YESSS' and my alarm goes off at 245am because I clock in at 4am. Again. For the third time this week."
@sirrunklesnort
@sirrunklesnort Ай бұрын
The outro song is killer
@skotruth1
@skotruth1 Күн бұрын
Before the sword appeared it was the lobotomy tool so it might be like the Jaberwalky is like insanity or smtn
@ribbonthesilly
@ribbonthesilly Ай бұрын
Wowzers
@5starr818
@5starr818 Ай бұрын
It soupin’ time
@hitome666
@hitome666 Ай бұрын
another banger, another banger by soupy soup
@iaintpayingchildsupport-fr
@iaintpayingchildsupport-fr 26 күн бұрын
Don't mind me, I'm just waiting for the blacksouls players to crawl their way into the comment section
@Woofarfalpha
@Woofarfalpha Ай бұрын
WOOO MORE ALICE IN WONDERLAND LET'S GOOO
@madhatter6790
@madhatter6790 7 күн бұрын
A couple things: 1. you pronounce Liddle to sound like fiddle, like little with the T's turned to D's 2. that queen that turned into a sheep was the white queen from the book through the looking glass, that actually happens in the book where she becomes a sheep otherwise good video
@yearoldkid
@yearoldkid Ай бұрын
I like it soupy with no spoon
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 Ай бұрын
She picked the kitten up like that kitten owes her money
@Jack_00410
@Jack_00410 12 күн бұрын
The twins actually remind me of Fran Bow
@strawberrydoll7042
@strawberrydoll7042 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure it's lee-dell ( rhymes with little)
@dgsnaajbsuewngsnwe4526
@dgsnaajbsuewngsnwe4526 Ай бұрын
PAPA?! YOU CAME HOME?!
@anarchist_loli9624
@anarchist_loli9624 Ай бұрын
The broth patriarch feeds us once again my friends!
@soupysoupx
@soupysoupx Ай бұрын
Dinner is served. Consume the broth.
@CJDraws1
@CJDraws1 Ай бұрын
yiiiiippiiieeeee
@kestreldomann2787
@kestreldomann2787 Ай бұрын
Who would win: this Analog Horror or that season of Once Upon a Time that took place in Wonderland
@jamespliskins2785
@jamespliskins2785 Ай бұрын
Well this one actually has some quality and isn’t a boring piece of forgettable garbage so I’d say this one wins.
@EmillyOrr
@EmillyOrr Ай бұрын
Honestly, as affecting and disturbing as the Alice in Dreams videos are, the real story is potentially more troubling. The base reality that many brothels in Victorian England drew the moral line at eleven for sex workers tells you a bit about the unspoken-but-accepted draw grown men seem to have for young girls. Into this backdrop, then, unmarried Lewis Carroll (pen name) met his new neighbors in April of 1856. He thereupon made ""fast friends" with Alice, and frequently would accompany her on walks through the park grounds surrounding Christ Church Cathedral. I don't know myself if her family ever objected--all I do know is that letters remark on several teas taken with Alice on the lawn, or in the forest, or in a local kirkyard. And as a photographer, Carroll talked Alice into being his subject. So, we have no *direct* evidence that anything untoward happened--though Carroll did gush about his love for the young girl and the perfection of her limbs. And, being that Alice was a minor celebrity, there are pictures of her both before and after her marriage to Reginald Hargreaves. And, as was common for the day to hold still with passive face, many Victorians end up looking depressed or stern. But if you go back to the earliest photos taken--though there may have been more that were never released--Alice looks deeply angry. Her eyes nearly burn out of the image towards the viewer--or, in her case, the photographer. These are also the photographs in which she's wearing the least clothes, so...there's that.
@soupysoupx
@soupysoupx Ай бұрын
Well, this makes things even sadder :( Thanks for sharing the much-needed history on the matter! I recall hearing rumors about her potentially being groomed, but didn't know if they were true or not. Now I think I know the answer to that. Very tragic.
@l4m3frogggaming26
@l4m3frogggaming26 Ай бұрын
I heard it was "Lid-Del"
@xionelectra
@xionelectra Ай бұрын
I went on a deep dive on the history of lobotomy and I regret it
@scaredmongoose.7027
@scaredmongoose.7027 Ай бұрын
Yay soupsoup 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@haydenarcher6435
@haydenarcher6435 Ай бұрын
Yahoooooooooo soupy soup
@StygianTheCandleMan
@StygianTheCandleMan Ай бұрын
Daddy? Daddy uppy! Daddy can we play catch with humpty dumpty??? Daddy can I try a cigarette??
@matthewmccoyd2578
@matthewmccoyd2578 Ай бұрын
*loads shotgun-gauntlets*
@scarcforreal
@scarcforreal Ай бұрын
Shame to say i was late to this video but time to put my feet up
@floorlessceiling
@floorlessceiling Ай бұрын
we eatin wet dog food tonight w this one (i love you soupy, your content is delicious)
@Daedalus99-kx3di
@Daedalus99-kx3di Ай бұрын
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