THE AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS just SET A NEW STANDARD...

[@magical_pixie_horse7346]

This side of Kinger showed in the previous episode. He was wearing a bucket on his head, meaning it was dark, so he was able to be lucid enough to remember something he normally wouldn't and gave good advice. That went away as soon as he lifted the bucket high enough to expose one of his eyes to the light.

[@mile5893]

yea i figured when i watched back ep 2

[@fnfmr]

why is this comment stolen from the original video of tadc

[@magical_pixie_horse7346]

@@fnfmr coincidence. I just saw it.

[@xxdoodleduckxx4685]

The attention to detail is remarkable

[@albertfronton3634]

In episode 2, during Koufmo funeral, Kinger was all the time with his eyes closed while he talked about memories with him. He was trying to keep himself in "darkness" to remember better.

[@YinYangAngel55]

23:29 the reason Cain doesnt remember whats wrong with Zooble is probably because they kept saying "forget it", so Cain will forget what progress they had made during the therapy session.

[@jamesbond3w]

I saw this comment on the original video. Caine doesn't understand metaphors or whatnot so whenever Zooble says "Forget it" Caine takes it literally

[@KagepazRequiem]

I mean, when I ask chatgpt to forget the previous discussion, it often does so. Sometimes, when needed to remember things, you often need to summarize the previous discussion. So I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. It also could be memories being full or Overfitting

[@kattastic9999]

That or it's a programming thing: input output. Zooble asked for a body they liked, Caine made a solution, so he literally can't conceive of it as an active problem until directly prompted again.

[@pockets8548]

@@kattastic9999 Cain- "i could make a adventure out of that" my prediciton that there might be a episode where Cain tries to make a adventure tailored to Zooble's problem of not liking their body, Maybe a body swap episode..

[@dandabossthesecond3599]

@@YinYangAngel55 bro thats what i said😭 Good thing you gor more likes than me so more ppl get this theory🙏👍

[@danksoulsv1107]

Kinda ironic that the person who regains their sense of self in the dark is the only one that glows he is that light in the dark

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

a metaphorical and literal light

[@abluerainbow]

Kinger is the very definition of of somebody with Dementia and it's so sad😭💙, we stan a king

[@RemielRemo]

19:45 Fun fact: In spanish Kinger says: I'm sorry I don't speak "Lovecraftian"

[@artusking9747]

And in german he says I don't speak french

[@RemielRemo]

@@artusking9747 Even funnier XD

[@RafaelMartinez-mg5lg]

@@artusking9747 poteto potate

[@mariii__881]

and in polish, at the end, instead of meowing milkmaids Caine calls them Skibidi Sigmas

[@RemielRemo]

@@mariii__881 And in spanish Caine says: "Milky Furries" Also what the fuck, no wonder why Jax was pissed off.

[@remini255]

This episode was so sad -Kinger has a wife stuck in the cellar -Zooble doesn’t like herself -Jax thinks he’s Deadpool

[@aj7515]

What's sad about jax breaking the 4th wall? Implying that he's actually an NPC all along? And gonna get erased like gummy goo?

[@3bodYking99]

Themselves, no? Zooble is non-binary?

[@Tapood74]

​@@aj7515jax is delulu if he thinks he can be deadpool

[@GingerChic87]

Zooble is a them.

[@likethecolour]

​@GingerChic87 zooble doesn't care about pronouns, it says "any" on the wiki and that comes from what gooseworx said

[@danielferrieri7434]

Kinger saying "looks like we've got two shots, let's make them count" was badass

[@ShivShrike]

Zooble has body dysmorphia, Kinger has dementia, and in the Polish dub of this episode Caine called them Skibbidi Sigmas

[@MasterofInterspace]

Yeah but that's kind of stupid isn't it? The body dysmorphia? This is none of their bodies. This is none of their names. No one has chosen any of it. And at least for some of the characters, Jax comes to mind, these have just been assigned to them. Everyone remembers that they were someone before this. In fact, the dysmorphia is a little strange coming from the character that has the most control over how they look.

[@endernightblade1958]

@@MasterofInterspace that’s the whole idea: zooble is the one with the most control over their body, and yet they can’t find any level of comfort with it at all.

[@infinitecatto]

Zooble is also canonically nonbinary

[@ShivShrike]

@@MasterofInterspace dysmorphia can affect anyone for any little reason, some people who are really tall hate that and wish to be smaller or can’t find comfort in their own bodies, people who hate the way certain aspect look and they can’t change them or they perceive their body as wrong no matter how much they try and fix it with plastic surgery until it takes a severe toll; their personality is in these new avatars and Zooble does not like theirs at all; what’s crazy is that Caine could probably fix this issue easily but he is not programmed for that particular train of reasoning his job is to create adventures for the people

[@PbeingXD]

Excuse me what?

[@Cybershroom]

''Seven years of computer science" Remembering your past life in a lucid state, this just reinforces the idea that everyone who's got transported to the Circus are probably all developers who designed it. Also, damn that Kinger moment plucked at my heartstrings

[@firefi1960]

I personally think Kinger and his wife developed it, but the others were trapped there after. Since if they were all developers, wouldn't they have all gone in together? Why would there be time for dozens of people to abstract, including Kaufmo going nuts before Pomni arrived, if she was part of the development team?

[@legohunter1020]

Plus, Jax did say episode 1 that Kinger was there the longest.

[@taddad2641]

He probably cerated the circus with his wife. ....... i think that origianlly the sun and moon were their avatars. but soemthign happened and they ended up stuck in the circus. Question remains why, and if the sun and mono were theri avatars then it also means they could leave it.

[@legohunter1020]

@@taddad2641 Is that why Caine pushed Pomni out of the way the moon said anything?👀

[@mariotheundying]

Reminder: the ONLY thing that the characters forgot was their names, other than that they remember EVERYTHING else, this was said by Gooseworks, the creator of the show

[@Dionysus24779]

Pomni is also the only one who really remembers the sentient NPCs from last episode. And now she is the one to remember a sane Kingler. Maybe that's her thing, that she will remember things others won't, which keeps these things valued. Also Kingler saying the worst thing you can do is make someone feel unwanted or unloved is pretty heavy.

[@sergeyromanchenko714]

That's why her name is Pomni.

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

She's a watcher/witness. She'll probably be the one at the very end left to remember it all

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

​@@sergeyromanchenko714what does that mean?? Does "pomni" mean something?

[@j.corbygaming]

@@thelordofthelostbraincells nux in the video said its like Russian for remember or something

[@LegendhypergameGD]

@@thelordofthelostbraincells it means "Remember", pretty interesting ngl

[@astrolord4325]

Fun fact: There will be no season 2. Once this season is over it's over, at least according to creators. And the reason being, to preserve creative vision. And i dig it. I love when writers get to end the shows on their terms, instead of prolonging them to infinity because producers said so.

[@What_The_Doot]

I like that a lot! That'll probably means that everything will come to some sort of resolution by the end of this, without leaving too many loose ends.

[@9LiveEmpire]

knowing how to stop is as important as knowing where to start, otherwise apply the quote about hero living long enough

[@TheMulberryShark]

I just hope it's not like, 8 total episodes, it doesn't feel like enough time, maybe 12, that sounds like enough to get all that sweet sweet lore

[@Oushino]

@@TheMulberryShark 9

[@TheMulberryShark]

@Oushino 9 what, eggs? Also yeah, I know that, but I didn't when I said that

[@Xicius]

Therapist: Polish cain doesnt hurt you Polish Cain: *Skibidi Sigma*

[@LordShonji]

Spanish Caine: Milky Furries

[@Darwidx]

I think, this one is the worst, 2 words with worst popularity about Poles, I was thinking to stop watching episode imediately when I heard this.

[@dawidchodzinski7440]

Didn't watch this dub yet, and now I'm too scared too try.

[@RemielRemo]

@@LordShonji I KNOW, AAAAHHH

[@littchimy4756]

Huh I got scared, you have the same hanako pfp as my google account

[@michaelrondan9481]

I love how every episode foreshadows how they solve the main problem in the first few minutes. I think Jax's eyes light up when he hold his breathe like an old cartoon character.

[@KeyboardTarantula]

I think his eyes start spinning sideways till it looks like they are entirely yellow because motion blur.

[@samm425]

I think that his ears or neck stretch out

[@gravajaumbros]

If you believe the "Jax is an NPC" theory then it could be that while he can mimic breathing (he does things like sigh, or catch his breath after running from Kaufmo) he can't actually breath, and thus can't actually hold his breath. He refuses to show them because nothing would happen, and it would give away a sign that he's fundamentally different from them. Though if he's not an NPC I'm guessing his ears curl up.

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

assuming he's not an NPC (which I otherwise am), I think he gets shorter

[@Chrissercombe]

i cant wait for all the children in the audience to get horrible nightmares from the monster-bubble in reverse 6:07

[@faithrabbit4330]

That monster is gonna give ADULTS nightmares

[@Chrissercombe]

Undoubtedly so😃✨️

[@gabeskai]

Yeah, parents who don't pay attention to their kids are about to get reeeeal upset🤣

[@Aflay1]

Man, what did she say that is so nightmare inducing? (Hears what she says in reverse) Oh dear God...

[@treanmunt1420]

An animated God like character talking backwards....that doesn't remind me of anything . . .

[@drtaverner]

Darkened room: "I'm starting to think." Total darkness: "I think we should..." Monster light: _completely numb and dumb._ Turns away from the light: _back to his senses._ Right from the start, the darkness is unlocking his mind until he's actually himself again. Light makes him stupid. I hope Pomni thinks about it later and arranges for something to help Kinger that's better than a pillow fort.

[@Red_Steampunker]

He can’t even hold his breath and keep thinking. He glows when he does, removing the darkness he cherishes and clings onto. To anyone else it would be useful, but not kinger

[@drtaverner]

@@Red_Steampunker Ironically tragic. Great writing.

[@HaloInverse]

...sunglasses. Crooked, lopsided sunglasses.

[@brotherkhrayn3525]

Also when they first entered the mansion, he said “I remember..”

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

@@HaloInverse y e s

[@mrfriespotato2834]

i always forget that glitch also made murder drones, they have more experience than needed in horror

[@robomix3162]

and also the main creators/directors of the shows started out making horror stuff

[@TrackpadProductions]

I think it's more that Gooseworx is and has always been a horror-oriented artist for pretty much her entire career. That might have something to do with it.

[@ninavale.]

Sarcastic Chorus made a video about this episode and his theory is that Cane is literally just an AI within a videogame/computer whose sole purpose is to design levels and quests for the players. He is NOT equipped to deal with actual people and the needs and complexity that comes with the territory. Which is why he forgets what a Zooble us telling him. It's outside of his code. It'd be like someone talking to you in a language you never heard. You're not going to get it and you're going to get distracted if it's a long speech.

[@syabilaazri7834]

Yeah, i do think that all that Cane think why Zooble dont like to do any of his adventure is becuase Zooble want a different game and Cane going to create all sort kind of theme until he find the right one that please Zooble....

[@ninavale.]

@@syabilaazri7834 SC also said in his vid that Cane is a bit of a hack when it comes to stories and an insecure writer. You, know kinda like a lot of modern hollywood/mainstream writers who are so scared of their story being 'predictable' and thus 'bad and boring' that they do it at the expense of the story and characters being fun to follow and making sense/having an organic, natural progression. They take the 'subvert the expectation' to such levels that it becomes stupid and instead of being awed the audience is left underwhelmed and frustrated...and even bored. Because if you can't follow the story whatsoever your brain is going to switch off and not pay any attention whatsoever. Like, let's use chekov's gun as an example. A writer who wants to be "clever" would show it and pay attention to it, but then there won't be any payoff. The gun won't show up again and no one will ever mention it. Faced with such a thing most people won't see it as subversion but rather as a plot hole.

[@TheGhostlyZed]

is that not just. actually confirmed info? we know cain is AI, and we know he's not evil and just trying to help despite not knowing how. wasnt it like. outright stated by the writer somewhere??

[@micahflanders6789]

That’s not even HIS theory, that was confirmed by Gooseworx before SC even made that video.

[@ninavale.]

@@micahflanders6789 ah, I see I didn't know that and saw quite a few comments talking about the whole 'it's actually hell' theories and that characters HAVE to participate or they'll get dragged to hell if they won't so this is why Cane is so keen on them particpating.

[@greatazuredragon]

The corpse politely answering was gold. XD

[@youtuberjestforfun9074]

"please don't come alive..." "ok i won't" best interaction.

[@willparry530]

@@youtuberjestforfun9074 best moment of humor there...also shows that Caine probably planned for something like that to happen--but programmed in a failsafe in case the adventurers didn't like that possibility

[@arkauthor]

Reason why he's called KINGer.

[@bakuhakudraws5603]

"It's my fault we went down this path, isn't it?" 1000 bucks says Kinger wasn't talking about dragging Pomni into the scary door at the start of the episode. Also, go rewatch Zooble's therapy scene: Every time Caine does some thing non-sequitur or ignores what they tell him, it's immediately after Zooble says 'forget it' or 'never mind'. Caine is an AI: He's just following their orders and forgetting what they tell him when he's told to.

[@dintedarkspear1862]

The question to ask is whether he follows everybody's orders like this or just when Zooble says it. If it's just Zooble then that would have some pretty big lore implications

[@trolleyfan]

I think Caine can't remember because Zooble keeps telling him to "forget about it..."

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

I've seen people say that because caine is an a.i, he takes things seriously. So when zooble tells caine to forget it, he literally just forgets it

[@amooosasaki2299]

I think out of everyone else I've seen react to this Nux is the only one that truly gets it and talks about the messages that the show is conveying

[@DavidJMiller]

Ahem...Aliciaxdeath...Ahem ahem

[@Aflay1]

​@@DavidJMiller "Out of everyone *I've seen"* Get out of here with the ahem shit.

[@DavidJMiller]

@@Aflay1 Sir, read the comment again

[@zaroko8105]

Ahem, list down some ... Wait I don't care

[@DavidJMiller]

@@zaroko8105 ahem, I'll still list them down

[@chrimsonphantom]

Its weird when you have to keep in mind, that the entire adventure was designed for Zooble. If their limbs straighten out it would be hard for them to escape hell. Zooble probably won't have time to cross over before getting possessed. (Cain can't do anything about their minds but can build something that can possess them.) Though the whole thing could be a warning from Cain to Zooble, that if they keeps missing out Zooble could extract become a monster and Cain would be forced to drag them down to hell.

[@rhazortrhazort3003]

Yeah, but remember that the doors were changed. If Caine's plan was correct, Zooble would've gone for the pleasant door and had a good time. If the switch was intentional, Cain was trying to give Zooble an easy time to ease them back into the adventures.

[@sarafontanini7051]

i think caine just didn't think it through

[@chrimsonphantom]

@@rhazortrhazort3003 There wasn't a switch? The ghost pointed to the safe door then the scary door. With signs saying which one was which. Jax just threw Gangle's mask into the scary door because he thought it would be funny.

[@chrimsonphantom]

@@sarafontanini7051 Probably. He might have been hoping that someone else would follow Zobble. Because on their own Zooble would've been stuck, but if paired with someone else. They would've been able to get through hell.

[@transyuri4534]

*They Zooble is nonbinary. Don't listen to the google AI that says they go by any pronouns.

[@djtimo]

You brought up a good point that Caine may put them in the cellar to keep them in darkness and therefore keep them calm. Interesting thought and could be true. Nice theories

[@kitty3999]

Yes, loved that idea. I still think he maybe puts them there, because he can't fix the issue, he needs a real person to come fix the issue since the people who abstruct seem to do so when great emotional stress, something Caine has no idea about.

[@vic2006]

26:35 "my wife and theoreticall children", that's the way to say that he shot his wife while she was pregnant. Probably the first mini ghost that Jax sucked out (pause) was the spirit of the fetus who did not even got acces to the demo of life. Props for the husband tho. He got a double kill and a spawncamp kill at the same time, while also doing friendly fire. He really was a good hunter.

[@Pleasewatchtransformersone]

Ayoo but nice theory

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

_OH_ _oh no_

[@thediam0nddrag0n78]

Nice shot 👍

[@CatCheshire]

Zoobel constantly repeating 'forget it' Cain, being AI to make fun activities: forgets about it Zooble: suprised picatchu face XD

[@VAX3N3]

r/youngpeopleyoutube

[@possiblepuzzles8137]

Oh wow... I never put that together before 😮

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

Cain is like me fr, I'm not joking, I literally will take shit seriously sometimes.

[@MouseGoat]

​@@thelordofthelostbraincells do you also torture random people you kidnapped in you basement?

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

@@thelordofthelostbraincells fellow autist?

[@RubikSolver64]

39:08 7 years of computer science and hated bugs. Sounds like a programmer. I wanna know about their real lives so much more with each episode.

[@ChaoticNuetral420]

This epsode single-handedly made Kinger my fav character. Also, METAL GEAR LORE WHEN????

[@plugshirt1762]

Metal Gear lore is a necessity

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

Arcane season 2 is around the corner, I've been @-ing nux to react to this guy named necrit, he's the best league of legends lore master there is. Specifically, I've been begging nux to react to necrit riot mmo videos, since they're very condensed but interesting for the lore of the planet, the regions, the potential classes, the potential boss plot.

[@Skizzo321]

MOOING PEE-BOTS!

[@avengerk7051]

i think Jex does know. he keeps looking at the camera while talking in the previous episodes too

[@MouseGoat]

Jack being a AI seemed even more likely. He never held his breath. Maybe because he can't

[@Neurodivergent-k6f]

He’s a wannabe dead pool! Jax is delulu if he think he can be like dead pool 😒/joking

[@Mrfireman93]

Cane makes adventures so they dont go insane, but also making adventures is what keeps im from going insane because he's probably in the same boat as them.

[@-Termination.Inc-]

Tbh I could totally Believe Zooble has Body Dysmorphia when compared to everyone else being somewhat humanoid, she looks like a disorganised jigsaw puzzle. It is no shocker that she hates her body.

[@MurderousPenguin]

anyone would if they were trapped in a digital body they probably did not make

[@TheRhuen]

I would say Caine clearly doesn't understand human psychology, doesn't understand the trauma he is causing or the needs of others. In fact it is evident that the abstracted individuals could potentially be helped with the right professional guidance, but Caine not understanding this and only seeing them as "glitching threats" removes them from the main area to the cellar area. Also as a side bar the fact Pomni could lose control of her body via a possession is very disturbing when you remember this is all virtual, so Caine has a program to over-ride the avatars and control them. Although he supposedly can't affect their minds...although some aspect of that world does *the loss of name and some memories*, so Caine may not even be the highest program in control of this virtual space only the adventure guide with Admin controls over the environment and player avatars. Which speaking of, Pomni and Kinger what they were saying to each other, we don't know the circumstances of why they put the head set on. Pomni might know more than she is letting on, heck first episode is was almost implied she about pulled a Digimon and went up and saw through the monitor. But they both clearly worked at C&A...what if Pomni was a debugger and the headset was just part of her workload to fix with notes on things needing patched, maybe a "delete Cain admin program"...her "of course he hates me" felt really personal...like she knows a reason he might (I doubt he does, he seems less advanced an AI than the one's he made last episode). "I knew it would end up like this, he just wants me to suffer, he hates me"...makes me want to rewatch episode 1...did Pomni KNOW what she was getting into and was pretending she didn't...or got confused by the system messing with memories, and its her job to figure out how to get everyone out, or debug the system from the inside. This line makes Pomni very suspicious. Also my theory, Jax is able to leave the Circus, that he's human (fully) and can come and go, he might not even believe the other "players" are real people. So theory is when he holds his breath that acts as the (emergency exit) for him. In fact remember episode 1...Jax was short of breath from running, he had to take a moment to catch his breath.

[@imperialguardproductions]

Kinger is figuratively and literally Pomni's light in the darkness.

[@Mochicakee]

LITERALLY-

[@Neurodivergent-k6f]

SHINE BRIGHT LIKE A DIAMOND

[@DinosaurBoy04]

During the therapy session with zooble, I think that the reason Cain forgets about what they say is because Cain as an AI takes everything literally and zooble constantly says forget it so he does.

[@HeraclesN-fp1bw]

A King & his Jester Goes to a Hunted Manor 👻 - First Kinger is one of my favorite characters which I love the lore from him learning about his wife Queenie (which Gooseworx confirmed to be her name) & this would explain that during Ep. 1 he keep mentioning a insect collection when he came out of his pillow fort & while down in the Glonk cave while in Ep. 2 when he had a bucket on his head when he reminded Ragatha first time at the circus - Baron Mildenhall is voiced by Tim Alexander - Martha Mildenhall is voiced by Marissa Lenti who also voices Gangle - Ghostly is voiced by WizardWiz - As for references to other media Jax uses a vacuum to capture ghost which has been used in many different series & the light from the head’s mouth has light which might be a reference to deathlights from Stephen King "IT"

[@Aflay1]

Good catches on all these!

[@_who_am_i_4111]

I kinda find it cool that kinger turns into the thing he avoids the most when holding his breath - light.

[@lilacangelblue2404]

Something that attracts bugs, Which his wife loved 😢

[@Richiedoesmc]

The scary door was definitely designed for Jax and Zooble since Cain thought Zooble wanted something more mature. And Jax would totally try killing the monster the first chance he got sending them both to hell. Which would force Jax to actually help Zooble to escape since their body straightens out making it hard to walk.

[@devinpaul9026]

Kinger's ark here is literally the porcelain doll in Beamland from Jim Henson's secret life of toys. I think lights being on vs. off even played a role in that too. And Pomni already resembles Ditz The Clown.

[@emilycummings3732]

5:59 actually got me thinking. Caine does have god-like abilities, he pretty much can do whatever the heck he wants when he wants. So why doesn't he just make Zooble go on the adventures?

[@mystrenula3911]

He mentions in episode 1 that the only thing he can't control is the people's minds, he could probably puppet their bodies and make them go but what would the point in that be if they're completely unwilling to play along.

[@cantmakeacreativename2072]

I assume it’s more of a participation thing. I mean despite his god-like nature he IS still at the end of the day, essentially a videogame AI. In every single game you, the player still have to actively make the decision to press start and play. So Zooble refusing to participate could just be representative of that.

[@Aflay1]

They go into that in the episode. Despite Caine's abilities, he is very insecure about his capability as a chaperone, so by principle, he would opt for talking it through to get to the bottom of it. That, and I'm pretty sure he is insane or something. Given how little we actually know, and how much has been revealed, we can infer that there is a method to his madness. Once this is revealed, we can look back and truly understand how powerful and in control he really is, or if he was ever really powerful at all. For now, he seems in *complete control* and has hidden motives. I'm willing to bet some external force is influencing his behavior, but that's more of a hunch.

[@John-uw2je]

His main goal is to maintain their sanity and he already failed several times. He probably tried that, and it made someone insane.

[@MouseGoat]

Cain's role seems pretty clear to me. While you could just force people to do stuff. It would defeat the hole point of adventures. Caine is clearly not evil, he just limtid in his understanding. He doesn't do stuff to hurt them, he just following a script. He can joke that he is a war criminal, but it's because he has no real idea what it is. I'm also thinking his adventures created from the memories of the people. Like his not good at making new stuff, he just takes what allredy is and alters it a bit

[@larsen1298]

39:54 this statement right here. Is why i despise trolls in general. Cause for whatever reason... Boredom, political or simply fanatical, they make it their mission to just make other people miserable and feel unloved. This show is so real

[@supergobgoblin424]

But you do the same to trolls. Hipocrite much?

[@geardog24]

If the circus is Hell, characters like Kinger and Ragatha must be guardian angels trying to save everyone.

[@ryanthecringeanimator9541]

Hell in some sources have Purgatory down there. Kinger is 100% in purgatory waiting to be sent down to Hell (the Cellar) to be with his wife again

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

Then jax is a demon and caine is the devil in charge. But what would gangle be?

[@j.corbygaming]

@@thelordofthelostbraincells jesus? Humanity as a whole?

[@MouseGoat]

​@@thelordofthelostbraincellsyou would think, but isn't it interesting that Kinger lit up and was draged to hell? Lucifer = light bring and king of hell.

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

the creator has already said this is basically IHNMAIMS, so they'd all just be sinners (the ones AM let live) and Caine the Devil (AM)

[@madrat8060]

16:16 I just realized that there was a book shown in this specific scene titled "Angels", which was probably foreshadowing to what the creature was before they went into the cellar.

[@pieterhofkens7259]

This being produced along with Hazbin and Helluva is great. They dont come out often, but they always make my day!!!!!!

[@submariNervous]

Caine mentioning that his only purpose in life is to make the adventures (and also seemingly being unable to comprehend the possibility that someone else's psychological issues could be unrelated to the adventures) brings to mind the old riddle about the robot programmed to make toys that failed to construct a SINGLE toy when presented with a closed box full of parts, simply because it had ONLY been programmed to put together toys and not to recognize and open boxes. As previously stated, Caine was never made to do anything but make adventures, and people's emotions and mental states are the equivalent of closed boxes that he has no idea how to open, and he's *just capable enough* at holding conversations that none of the humans seem to understand that he quite literally CAN'T understand, despite his best efforts.

[@coltoncole6857]

It’s not that Kane doesn’t care Zoobles body dysmorphia, it’s that he can’t understand it. To him he just thinks that he just needs to give them a lot of body parts and then the problem will be solved. You gotta remember that canes Cains only goal in this digital life is to entertain those in this digital world with adventures that he creates, anything else that doesn’t have to do with that he just can’t understand, he tries to help, but you can’t really help someone you can’t understand.

[@taddad2641]

there could also be an extar stressor cause most of the peeps have abstarcted at this point. its possible caine was put in charge of the care of the people in the circus but again, is not built for that either. and now most of them are abstracted and he doesn't know hwo to help them.

[@Enderstorm20]

I feel like every episode is gonna be Pomni learning more about every individual member of the circus while they teach her something about how to survive the circus.

[@rashan141]

I think you have a point but there's going to be a point to where she has to teach all of this to Jax whose 'method' is to pretend like it's not a 'problem'. I think that's the point, notice, every time Jax is never really seen follow along, he forces things, but he never really 'goes along'. I think, despite a potential early 'Jax Episode', Jax will be the one in the end who needs the lessons. Perhaps to leave or because he'll be the only one left in that world where, at that point, none of the lessons WILL matter. And, likely, THEN he'll leave when he's forced to deal with nothing BUT fake people who do everything he believes, wants, and wills them to do. Likely, that's going to happen, maybe someone will come back to get him, and then we see him either dying in a hospital or maybe leaving someone's house as a slightly better person.

[@transyuri4534]

30:43 Remember that it was intended that only zooble would go down this route, a single person. With that in mind Cain probably made the code something like "If angel is harmed: Take player in this area to next area"

[@dragon7493]

I love how when Jax vacuumed Ghostly, he wasn’t smirking or being a troll. He seemed to genuinely think that he was supposed to do that

[@lupallax]

Look at jax in 43:36 his ears were like down, and remember in the beginning where he said "I want to keep the mystery alive" when they were holding their breaths.

[@MelonBoi]

Anyone else notice how nux just explains the Basic premise of a Show like every Episode he watches. The dementia really be kicking.

[@arekushi_ninjo2454]

one of funniest things this episode - caine mislabeled the doors. ghosty pointed to our left door, called it safe, but when jax threw a mask it ended up being the horrible one

[@Aflay1]

I knew I wasn't going crazy.

[@SapphireDragonDX]

Jax may be an agent of chaos, but he's not stupid.

[@Luigicat11]

No, it's clearly the door on the right that's the horrible one. Look at the scene where you see both doors while the scary one's open, you can see the safe door to its left.

[@SleepyStreak]

No, there's a shot of Kinger jumping in that clearly shows the safe door on the left.

[@PewPewBeets]

It's because Caine tailored the adventure for Zooble. Caine assumed that a Resident Evil style horror game was what everyone else wanted, while the door with the mature ghost lady was what he thought Zooble would find scary and entertaining.

[@youraveragechroma2139]

Light makes Kinger forget and be insane. So when he intentionally clears his mind to not think about breathing, he himself glows.

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

a literal and metaphorical light for Pomni

[@PewPewBeets]

32:58 Holy crap, that's a really nice detail! I'm not going to say what it is, but let's just say that it's more evidence that Kinger has, at least some, firearms experience.

[@gravajaumbros]

OMG I hadn't noticed that but yes, that's someone who's used to properly handling a gun! You never assume it can't go off even if you KNOW it's empty. Furthermore, while Pomni just grabs the gun and hands it to Kinger, the first thing Kinger does is check the gun. That works because now for the narrative we know they have two shots, but I could totally imagine Jax just firing and assuming they have a huge amount of video game ammo available and then being upset when there's only two shots.

[@WoopsieWooper]

One thing to notice during the therapy session is every time Caine has a zany tangent it's right after Zooble said "Forget it" So it's likely he's just doing what he's told and instantly forgetting what they were just talking about. Thus also why he couldn't remember no matter how hard he was clearly trying at the start to their previous conversation(s) because they probably also said to forget it last time too.

[@zippersnstitches9009]

Lore analysts: wowww kinger so deep my goofy behind: KING WITH A SHOTGUN 2

[@vincentpey3929]

I think Cain does not remember Zooble's problems, because Zooble tends to use the phrase "forget it" whenever they feel frustrated by Cain's aproach to helping them, Cain is an AI meant to fullfill his guests wishes so if Zooble orders him to "forget it" he will forget whatever Zooble is referring to, he dosnt get that it is simply a saying and not an order. Thus Zooble unknowingly stops Cain from making any real progress towards actually helping them (though Cain probably couldnt even truely help Zooble as he fundamentally can not understand the human struggles of his guests).

[@OnDavidsBrain]

21:09 "I TOLD them there was a minefield it's not my fault they couldn't figure out where the mines were!"

[@zhenhannlim2458]

im pretty sure Gooseworx already said that all the human characters remember everything from their real lives except their names, their names are the only thing that's forgotten

[@transyuri4534]

Source?

[@cosprobe374]

​@@transyuri4534search for yourself bruv

[@lucidnode]

​@@transyuri4534 What, do you not trust the brain cheese?

[@Dragonite43]

Zooble doesn't remember their gender.

[@darriongeorge5137]

​@@transyuri4534tbf, remember pomni knew she put a headeset on when she came into the circus

[@KyleSage35]

While Nux can drag on sometimes atleast he's more transformative then like 95% of other people.

[@chernagast6754]

Anyone else terrified by how quickly things fell apart the moment Caine started to doubt himself? Pomni also means "I will weep" in Russian. Zooble has gender dysphoria, calling it now.

[@Fectoelfilis27]

Bro got the slightest hint of self doubt and immediately started to have a breakdown

[@Aflay1]

​@@Fectoelfilis27 That's often how it happens. Now, imagine being like Pomni, who is in perpetual self doubt on the daily?

[@taddad2641]

@@Fectoelfilis27 actually to be fair this is probably an on going issue for him. my guess, caine was built to entertain, but was then given a task to watch over these peeps. and at this point the vast majority of the people under his care are abstracted with a tiny handful left.

[@Honey_Lynx]

Correction, Pomni (Помни) means "remember" in russian. As if asking/telling someone to remember something. Besides that, yeah. Kinda terrifying what happened when Caine started questioning himself, and the world went crazy for a moment. Wonder if this is gonna be a plot point later on 🤔

[@origialtych]

you know as the episodes come out I am becoming more and more convinced Jax is secretly a plant from whoever is really running the circus to observe everything and actually can leave whenever he wants

[@samoelcerv4798]

kinger showed why he is a king

[@jeremiahwarren2812]

Gooseworks actually confirmed that the characters fully remember their lives, the only thing they don't remember is their names

[@dandabossthesecond3599]

13:01 i think it's because she keeps saying "ugh, forget it.", and him, beeing an A.I., takes it litterally and forgets about it.

[@Char_0205]

19:47 in spanish says: "sorry could you repeat that again? I don't speak Lovecraftian" 😂

[@danielknapp3141]

The fact that Jax at least has knowledge of Luigi's mansion via vacuuming ghosts implies knowledge of video games at least up to 2001. It could just be for the bit, but film theory might find this interesting.

[@wewden6887]

LET'S GO! I WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONE MORE THAN ON THE SHREDDER VIDEO! I'm so happy.

[@TheCatsLibrary_1]

I wonder if Pomni said "I hate this stupid adventure," at the same time that Zooble said that no one liked the adventures.

[@goldenboxen6430]

The dark helps kinger remember his past and the circus is extremely bright with no dark spots and he lights up when suffocating, Zooble isn’t comfortable in her own body the circle is composed of different shapes and colors and nothing match’s and her limbs straighten out when she is suffocating, Does anyone else think The circus is a personalized hell for its “guests” and I guess trying to die or suffocate yourself to leave you get punished instead by having your fears or issues happen to you? Cause if that’s what happening we got like 3 sneak peeks into the other’s problems

[@bunkerzero]

"I starting to think..." He really was starting to think

[@thediam0nddrag0n78]

Finally, Kinger is starting to think...

[@pyronuke4768]

I was waiting all weekend for you to analyze this one!

[@Roloki454]

I’m still calling it that Zooble will be the next to abstract. I always knew it was their body that was the worst part of existing to them. Imagine not being able to even hold yourself at night because your body can’t even let you?

[@jeremywinston1]

i hope that’s the case, she is useless and uninteresting.

[@HedgehogY2K]

It's so weird that Jax is the only character besides Caine to be subtly aware of the 4th wall. If he's supposed to be one of them, he shouldn't know that. Me thinks mr. deadpool over here may not be human.

[@taddad2641]

caine deliberately portrays all this as a show after all. even with a title song to start every day, though it seems like he hasn't gotten around to changing the theme song yet.

[@Neurodivergent-k6f]

He’s just a wannabe Deadpool 😒! Ignore him

[@Toastility]

If Kinger was representing an angel guiding Ponmi out of Hell then you could say that Kinger was... an Angel with a Shotgun

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

You might notice, during the second Baron tape, the camera lingers on a Book about Angels. And one of the drawers in the desk show the creature's many Eyes.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Even though Digital circus backstories, characters and lore setups may be simpler than Helluva Boss one's but I actually think it helps the show more to keep it's quality, all three episodes have been just growing in quality and this episode was a huge PEAK of setups, now we just need 1-3 episodes more to setup the rest of the cast and lore and we can see huge payoff episodes

[@Aflay1]

In contrast to how back stories and lore setups worked within the first 3 episodes of Helluva Boss, I'd say they're about identical, actually. Both shows have interesting plots that tie the characters behaviors, and both shows had episodes that were deep dives into the characters lives and backgrounds. Digital Circus is definitely more existential and abstract, while Helluva Boss and Hazbin lean more towards traditional drama and comedy. Even if you consider the Digital Circus development simple, you have to give it to the crew that they have a lot of attention to detail when you go back and watch. Many of these details are lying underneath the abstract humor and logic. It makes sense for Digital Circus to seem simple when everything else is convoluted or overstimulating, but that said, Helluva Boss is privy to details too. They hide these details in the world building generally. Both are amazing examples of good writing, though. It's all insanely entertaining and captivating. It only makes sense that these shows and creators take their time to really flesh everything out. I'm a patient man, so long as these shows stay true to their vision.

[@CrypticDuality]

all charming characters who are funny or crazy tend to have deeper meaning or some traumatic past

[@webkarma9654]

I like the idea that Jax acts like he’s in a show and doesn’t think about it as his method of staying sane

[@kyuusei19]

Biggest realization for me was that this is supposed to be the Halloween/Horror episode, yet it feels really good to watch. I don't think at all about the horror, only about how cool and tragic Kinger was.

[@maradedrick1519]

I think caine is reusing past abstasted people for the npcs. The monster could be kingers wife (since he said you look beautiful honey), and the soul that possessed pomni was someone who knew of kingers wife

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

I highly doubt that everything so far points to abstraction being caused by the "players" essentially going insane or having a mental breakdown -in episode 1/the pilot, Caine *_explicitly_* says _"One of the few things I don't have control over are your minds."_ the monster (which mr. Mildenhall called an angel) is a pale-skinned creature with human-like arms and legs -Kinger's wife (community calls her Queenie) is most likely the crossed-out black piece we saw on one of the doors in the pilot behind Ragatha -so far every Abstracted has been an entity with many eyes, if anything the creature's mouth either reminded him of her abstracted from or hypnotized him my only explanation for the possessing voice is an NPC AI that adapted to the fact Kinger was present

[@BreakerX42]

I know everyone thinks Jax is secretly the Npc, but i think its Ragatha because she just goes along with everything Caine says and is the only one ever excited to go on adventures

[@sergeyromanchenko714]

It could be and in that case I think Zooble knows that: Ragatha wasn't mentioned in their speech about adventures.

[@Neon-sq9tk]

​@@sergeyromanchenko714Wdym? Zooble said that "Ragatha's too nice to say anything"

[@sergeyromanchenko714]

@@Neon-sq9tk Whoops...

[@Neurodivergent-k6f]

@@sergeyromanchenko714 You silly goose! 🤣

[@halfstache1070]

My crazy theory is Jax turns purple when he holds his breath.

[@thediam0nddrag0n78]

He's never taken a breath in the years he's been in the circus

[@summerrose7650]

Wonder what would happen if they mindbroke Caine. A. They float forever in the void B. They escape

[@tiagogamer04]

44:04 in polish, caine says "skibidi sigma"

[@CDsNoots]

Spanish Caine is also Spanish MrBeast.... Nux prewatched the Spanish dub...

[@anzerupnik1442]

I am excited that Jaden and Nux got to watch this episode.

[@Pleasewatchtransformersone]

"I can't wait for the children to have horrifying nightmares from the monster" bubble 2024

[@GrimAngel01100]

My theory (buckle up): The Digital Circus is an online reality gameshow VR computer game that is similar to Tell Tale games in that the game is also essentially a show. Pomni and the group are contestants (similar to the show "the hollow") who volunteered for the show. So each next part of the show is an episode, just like the walking dead or that werewolf game. The game has an emphasis on "immersion", so in order to maximize the sense of being part of that world, it has to wipe certain memories like who you are and your past, but since going further than that risks frying your sense of self, you are able to remember the head set. The game also needs you to retain your personality, and notions like fear or things you enjoy, because otherwise your mind would fight against the fake personality it assigns you. The game is peppy in an effort to keep contestants cheery so that they don't abstract due to the gnawing existential despair. The headset process isn't exactly comforting, hence why Pomni was trying to escape and tear the headset off, because the last thing she remembers putting it on and not feeling ok, then BAM, circus. My notion for it being voluntary is based on her saying "I put on a headset", and not "I was put in a headset". Now, I think that the reason Pomni got stuck partly because Caine didn't design the other side, but I also think that because it's a game, she essentially got caught in an if/while loop. I think the void is just a representation of the code and any libraries needed to run the game. So when Pomni was staring into the void, she was begining to see the game code and if left alone, would have the game story and ending spoiled to her, breaking immersion. Now being that it's both a reality show and a game show, there are multiple endings already coded for the game, but in a tell tale fashion, your choices affect the ending, and being a reality show means they could also have non coded endings due to their choices. Now, I have a notion that Caine is the NPC that represents the real human Caine, the blue error eyes suggests to me that he is certainly a just a program, likely high functioning AI. Caine says he hasn't created an exit, but that could just be a programmed thought of the NPC. Caine ( the human) may not have intended for there to be anything on that other side, perhaps to make the show interesting as it pushes players towards abstraction. However, if it is the case that the Programmer truly hadn't finished the other side, then that implies the game truly has no exit, because whatever Caine puts on the other side, it would still be part of the game; or at the very least, there is a different exit condition, and whatever is put on the other side is just a game location that they have to unlock/ get to later in the game in order to leave. I do think this less unlikely than the intended loop though the two aren't mutually exclusive, and both being the case is more likely than either on their own. The issue I have here is with abstraction, I don't think the game show would really allow people to be dying but they very well could, as we see the abstractions are tossed into a cellar, so presumably the minds are still in game. However the building Pomni is in, leads me to believe that the loop is modeled after the building where players are brought into the game, likely a huge office building, perfect for backroom style loops anyways, so they could be keeping those people alive. Or the abstractions could be MOBS that take over and eject the player from the game, meaning there is no risk to the player outside (which, so long as we aren't told this info until the end, it won't affect the story). Perhaps the players have to find Abel somewhere on the grounds of the digital Circus, and he will be able to bring back everyone Caine has killed through abstraction. Maybe there is some game lore that does have heavy tie in with religion, but Ill save my thoughts on that. Also, I think Kinger is a Programmer for the digital circus.

[@geardog24]

“Why would God put us in this world just to make us suffer?” Personally I always believed that while created the world God, the suffering was all on us.

[@Luigicat11]

Sounds like victim-blaming to me, but go off.

[@That_Doctor_Del_Fella]

You know how some children want a pet, beg for it, get so happy to have it?... then they lose interest in it almost immediately after the responsibility of what owning a pet entails sets in and leave it for the parents to handle? Thats how I view humanity's relationship to God. We're the puppy that God got tired of.

[@Mystyrio001]

"I do *not* use existence to torture my creations! Any torment I inflict is 100% accidental, like any good war criminal!" -God, probably

[@andrewstephens1531]

The show is actually on Netflix now

[@chriskoloski32]

Kinger proves that they do remember their lives before the circus. They just don't know their names

[@voltairebitancur4522]

44:01 "welcome back my meowing milk maids!" 💀💀💀

[@laharlkent]

So Nux thinks the Angel looks like Kinger's wife. It's eyes shape like Kinger. It glows when breathing, Kinger glows when not breathing More active in the dark, like Kinger? Demon in hell knows what happened to Kinger.

[@arielparash9982]

bubble said "I cant wait for all the viewers to get nightmares from the monster"

[@Rosewolf29]

Kinger took the literal direction of the song "if your going through hell, keep on going."

[@ridiculicious]

Calling "Angel" peaceful when the head slowly advanced and screeched was a nice catch.

[@webkarma9654]

Glad I’m currently in college learning computer science and programming so I can help make this stuff real!

[@Crispyzbacon]

OMG I JUST REALIZED THIS. In episode 2, towards the end when they are riding back to the Candy Kingdom, and when Kinger and Ragatha are talking, Kinger mentions how he remembers how Ragatha was like when she first entered the circus. And this happens WHEN KINGERS HEAD IS COVERED BY A BUCKET!!! And he then forgets immediately when the bucket tips off of his head. So this proves that he can remember things while in the dark. AMAZING DETAIL 🙏

[@milkquest4395]

I love how this episode feels so much different watching the second time

[@madaboutmarceline]

I know the show only has three episodes, but so far, each episode has been better than the last, and the pilot was already pretty stellar! I just hope the episodes continue to get better and better.

[@GogurteEmpire]

Kinger almost abstracts when he stares into the angel. A dark ring forms around his right eye and gets bigger until Pomni breaks him free. 20:35

[@spirittail4958]

I think that was just the inside of the monsters mouth since he was almost half way in there he might've just clipped it given he's turning around and they missed it in editing

[@GogurteEmpire]

@@spirittail4958 true, that's a possibility