The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - Caravan Of Garbage

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is a mess. The movie responsible for yet another franchise reboot despite setting up Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker and other characters for multiple spin offs, sequels and prequels. Maybe it was the inclusion of Electro, Rhino and Green Goblin, maybe it was the bit with the birthday cake, maybe it was one of the other 407 storylines. Regardless we say goodbye to this universe (for now) in this weeks Caravan Of Garbage review.
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#SpiderMan #NoWayHome

[@iamflipachip]

Mason is able to spot the nearly imperceptibly subtle differences in the pinstriping of Bond's suit between movies, but didn't notice this Spider-Man wasn't wearing a basketball morph suit anymore.

[@waxenpolecat24]

How are you this early

[@notsosuperpete1689]

@@waxenpolecat24 Patreoners get it early

[@synlion]

What do you mean?

[@RavenTheVelociraptor]

He's done it again!!

[@Gogettor]

Not Brioni

[@mmmghool]

That list of barely developed spin-offs brought back some memories.

[@TechnologicallyTechnical]

I'd say 2014 was a simpler time, but this movie doesn't make it feel that way

[@alexjames2264]

Right... Aunt May solo!

[@epicmadnesss]

Aunt may spy solo, I remember this

[@ethanrichmond3992]

“Man… brings back some memories.”

[@IcyDiamond]

Imagine if Venom was actually in the Amazing universe though

[@qxtu1669]

14:58 The fact that No Way Home does feature a funeral scene is what makes this significantly funnier

[@kronemerj]

I mean it's just a grave so it's not technically a funeral but still.

[@jeffmoo9235]

@@kronemerj nah there is a funeral Peter just doesn’t go to it. iirc you can see it in the background.

[@how2bwild738]

@@jeffmoo9235for half a second but it still counts 😢

[@pinstripe4254]

I was thinking the same thing

[@kylemajerczyk8160]

I was just gonna say! 😂

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

It always makes me laugh how at the end there’s just crowds of people standing behind police barriers watching the Rhino’s rampage like it’s a stunt show at Disneyland.

[@MatthewVlossak]

One can argue that the crowd did the same thing when Sandman and Venom teamed up against Peter at the end of Spider-Man 3

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

@@MatthewVlossak Yeah that was pretty dumb too although here it’s arguably worse because the Rhino is randomly firing ballistics.

[@Whiteythereaper]

@@MatthewVlossak they're both just the real public gathered to watch the filming of the scene

[@thedarkemissary]

@@shelbyvillerules9962 In real life, people gathered around to watch 2 burning skyscrapers collapse before they realized they should run. That's just New Yorl.

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

@@thedarkemissary They didn’t think there was anything to worry about because -REDACTED- can’t melt -REDACTED- 😏

[@under-._.-score]

I still believe Marc Webb’s hiring was strictly due to his name.

[@AustinViolence]

Like how Doug Bowser is the president of Nintendo USA.

[@lynxzen7435]

he only had one indie movie before he got hired for tasm and a couple music videos if i remember

[@davidbergh4716]

Yeah… yeah… that seems like a pretty Sony thing to do… the theory makes too much sense.

[@HafifSyukra]

So Avi Arad hiring by Sony is because they only export the movies in AVI?

[@davidwestry6216]

and studio execs doing copious amounts of cocaine

[@holdenstrausser]

The Australia project no doubt refers to Spider-Man's archnemesis, the Kangaroo.

[@samuelproudlove3774]

Don't forget the emus. We lost that war.

[@lunchb0x1986]

I wish it was that awesome lol

[@midago7332]

I just looked it up and I was going to comment 😂. Further reading en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_(comics)

[@Conner431x]

If you watch the deleted scene with Peter’s Dad. Andrew Garfield goes all out with his acting. His range of emotion in that scene is crazy. Such a talented actor

[@FantasticHaz_2]

Oh my god thank you for getting me to go watch that. Incredible!

[@xxdeckxxdumanyan7413]

Deleted scenes could have made movie be better

[@gustasborusas6355]

@@xxdeckxxdumanyan7413 that scene was removed for the 3rd film, which never came (obviously)

[@spencerfairman3889]

@@gustasborusas6355 true it didn’t get the third movie yet but after no way home people want to see Andrew Garfield back on the screen people he was a great Spider-Man

[@spencerfairman3889]

@@xxdeckxxdumanyan7413 that’s like saying all the deleted scenes from any movie could of made the movie better. There’s a lot of movies that do this

[@johntybagend]

I love the way they just ignored every note Kevin gave them, the arrogance of these Sony producers is just mindboggling.

[@patocomfaca]

he didnt read all the notes, so maybe they didnt ignore everything

[@terancetan5503]

The thing is, Sony got sent notes from Marvel executive Alan Fine as well (he's the right hand man of Ike Perlmutter *cue sinister music*)... and ignored them too. They are absolutely right about Avi Arad though, this movie showed that he clearly didn't know what he was doing. In fact, the hack revealed that Amy Pascal, who was the Sony Studio Chairwoman at the time, was seriously considering replacing him with someone else as the head producer of the Spider-Man movies. Then again, she stepped down shortly afterwards when racist comments were revealed in the same hack about then-US President Barrack Obama through a conversation she was having with Scott Rudin (I think) - who has a reputation as having one of the biggest tempers in all of Hollywood. Man, terrible people ALWAYS run in the same circles.

[@thedarkemissary]

To be fair, he wasn't much of anything. Just some guy at another studio. All he had at the time were Iron Man 1 & 2 (neither of which were hugely successful) and The Incredible Hulk (which wasn't even really his). So, it wasn't like he was super accomplished.

[@terancetan5503]

@@thedarkemissary At least in the movies sector. Arad was bigger in the TV and toys side of things (90s Spider-Man and X-Men are owed to him), but I believe at the time he was still out-of depth when producing feature films.

[@johntybagend]

@@thedarkemissary and Thor, Captain America, The Avengers, Iron man 3, Thor 2 & Guardians… it came out in 2014 my dude.

[@coach_michael_w]

Additional Feige note: “Harry should eat a radioactive corn cob and turn into Corn of Coblin

[@BLACULA-Skeewoah]

Harry Osborne eats corn the long way

[@jonasquinn7977]

He’s gobblin up all that corn they’ll say!

[@tylerp4494]

Wow! Feige really is a visionary!

[@IcyDiamond]

@@tylerp4494 Stuff like this is why the MCU is so successful

[@Jojozilla426]

@@jonasquinn7977 Hence the name

[@spiderdom3296]

I am surprised the boys didn't mention Peter's "For You" wall of crazy montage and then later on in the film he just tears it down - massive waste of time. What did that prove? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SMART, PETER PARKER

[@Turd_Rocket]

They actually mention that in the trivia section of the extended audio edition.

[@spiderdom3296]

@@Turd_Rocket I stand corrected! I shouldn't have doubted our m8s

[@EasyCure0]

@@spiderdom3296 for shame... Into the bin, m8!

[@doctorpi3340]

The scene when Spider-Man protects the kid from the bullies, and then fixes his school project and cheers him up and walks him home is still, to me, one of the purest friendly kneighbour Spider-Man scenes ever.

[@ytuser_3122]

That was Andrew Garfield’s idea

[@LPChipi]

@@ytuser_3122 I didn't know that, but I'm honestly not surprised at all. Every Spiderman and Superman movie needs a scene like this. Not moving the plot forward, not major stakes or drama, just pure unadulterated wholesomeness.

[@hellbenderdesign]

"Rather than be bald, Electro should wear a baseball cap, and when people see electro, they will just assume he has a full head of lush, healthy hair beneath the cap, and he's a baseball fan" - _Kevin Fige_

[@enjoi0555]

LMAO

[@jamescastle763]

Electro: love the Mets, let’s go Mets. Hit a home run

[@MITHYKA]

The most ridiculous part about the ending with the little spider kid is that there’s an ACTIVE shooter on the street and people decide to just gather by the already set up railings to spectate the “event”😂

[@the_ZAMURAI]

It’s a comic book movie where a caricature Russian crook is in a 10-ton Rhino mech and you’re worried about realism?

[@CorporalFriendlyShark]

That bit always annoyed me, same with the Electro fight, police just put up some crowd control barriers from somewhere, and everyone gathers as if they are watching a carnival, a mother even has her small boy watching the walking tank blowing up buildings and shooting people 🤣🤣

[@lko5545]

I pray one day people stop using this dumbass logic to excuse stupid writing

[@wayfaringstranger8430]

@@the_ZAMURAI Except that kind of nonsense wouldn't happen in a comic book either. "Oh, yeah the Rhino is attacking the city! Better take my kid down there so he can probably get shot or something!" GTFO here.

[@MrOtistetrax]

Nu Yoak Baybeee! If movies have taught me anything, it's that New Yorkers like nothing more than gathering by a police barrier to watch horrible violence take place.

[@Janderius]

The scene where he puts on the fireman hat and helps the other fire fighters is genuinely delightful. It works so well as a visual gag, we need more costumed Spider-man wearing different hats.

[@Kango234]

Spidey's personality is the main saving grace of these movies.

[@stethespaniard2]

It is good but again like with the truck he stopped saving people to grab a hat

[@excelsiorcameo5295]

Elements like this ripped straight off the comic page just give it that spider man and comic feel that I love.

[@byronsenior6499]

I don't like that because he shouldn't be allowed to use a hose with them not being trained. The thing that made Spiderman work in the Raimi films was law enforcers begrudgingly letting him go and putting up with him. In this they act like they should bow in his presence. It feels too unnatural for a fireman to let him do this alongside him.

[@NoArmsSally]

@@byronsenior6499 i imagine they wouldnt be too worried about a dude with super strength helping them aim the hose

[@ironcladnomad5639]

The problem with the Basement of Origins at the end wasn't the fact any of that particular technology had been developed and existed in any form, but that it was all presented in its final form. Imagine in _Batman Begins_ if Bruce went to Wayne Enterprises and met with Fox, but was taken to a coded locker and inside was a full batsuit - ears, logo, cape, batarangs, everything already there and ready to go. Same thing.

[@SirFratt]

Agreed, it would have ruined the characters of Doc Ock and the Vulture if their tech was just given to them

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@SirFratt Yeah Spectacular had them work for Oscorp in a way that didn't feel shoehorned

[@innoturtle4692]

Damn No Way Home failed the graveyard scene challenge lmao.

[@sharko3211]

I thought about saying the exact same thing so I checked if anyone got to it before me

[@terryqokov6999]

Yep lol, looking for this comment.

[@JordanDecker]

Fiege’s notes are A+. He really cuts to the heart of ways to improve things.

[@TinaOe]

I do disagree with his opinion on Andrew Garfield, I always liked his performance in both movies. But the rest are pretty spot on.

[@skiddyskiddz2]

@@TinaOe but he’s right tho, Peter isn’t an emotional wreck in the comics so idk why they amped it up in ASM2

[@SirSoloSoul]

@@skiddyskiddz2 Adult peter isn't.. but he was just graduating highschool. We would've had our standard spiderman at the daily bugle with mary jane as a confident hero in the next movie.

[@Salty010]

i think i actually agree on andrew perfomance since its feel too dramatic when he see the token coin and when he disagree to give blood to harry its feel undermind the last impact when he sees gwen death..... or maybe that comment came from after he see tooo many shot of andrews in emotional breakdown is why he says "its all over the place" owh well im just guessing...

[@hellfish2309]

Oh you mean how they stamped insignificance all over Aunt May? Peter’s moral compass, single parent, and psychological safety net is relegated to being actively ignored by Peter in Homecoming, and shacking up with Happy in Far From Interesting

[@frambojan]

Feige really showing why he is so successful. Dude gives great notes.

[@JCOdrjones]

So much experience from so many years working on superhero films. He knows what are just the worst type of ideas

[@SpFlash1523]

I actually read his notes on the movie, last night. I think the movie would’ve been 100 times better with Kevin Feige’s notes and suggestions.

[@Anyone690]

Yeah facts

[@dannyhernandez1212]

@@SpFlash1523 where can we find them?

[@EasyCure0]

@@dannyhernandez1212 Sony's email server

[@OvertheHedge06]

14:57 CHALLENGE FAILED

[@zom8680]

"Magic blood or something, who gives a shit?" The plot of Amazing Spider Man 2 summed up in 10 words or less

[@Macapta]

In the plane crash, would the Sony Vaio have even been invented by then? That’s a flashback to when Peter was a kid right?

[@PinkPopcast]

Immediately what I thought!

[@jonathanschmeh5709]

It would have close, depending on Peter's age in the movie. The first Viao laptops were released in '96, so if Peter was 18 at the end and the movie came out in 2014, then yes they should have been around for the plane crash.

[@ArmanZaidi]

lmfaoo

[@foeinform]

I think the scenes are great separately but altogether is a mess

[@ChumleyNuffington]

Completely agree. I've only ever watched it the once and that's all I thought, individual scenes work but the whole thing is a baggy blancmange that falls apart under the weight of it all.

[@MazeDaGr8]

Yea that about sums it up

[@BLACULA-Skeewoah]

The movie has 3 editors and its so noticeable!

[@ThreadBomb]

@@BLACULA-Skeewoah I don't think the number of editors is the problem. It's the screenplay and the amount of irrelevant crap that was inserted into the movie.

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

Yeah it’s one of those movies where if you go look up individual scenes on KZbin you’ll see loads of people in the comments saying “This movie is underrated” or “Why do people always say this is a bad movie?” The problem is that altogether it’s just a mess.

[@mattlittle4434]

SPOILERS FOR SPIDER-MAN NO WAY HOME: - - - - - - - - - - - - - Did not pass the Don't Do a Funeral Challenge.

[@atdubya9576]

Whelp, no funeral but a grave site visit in NWH... so... win...?

[@logandh2]

That’s the first genuine reaction Jimmy Fallon has ever given I think. Even he was like “Andrew that’s bullshit and you know it.”

[@ytuser_3122]

As Andrew puts his hands up to the sniper Marvel Studios hired in case he pulls a Mark Ruffalo/Tom Holland

[@boom.cinema369]

I wish someone loved me as much as James loves ripples in the suit

[@connorcrampton6123]

13:48 "instead she's Goblin up these bloody floor boards" had me dead

[@niccfajardo]

Mason predicted “No Way Home” failing the funeral challenge

[@ThePandaSupreme]

I wouldn’t mind Gwen becoming spider Gwen in this universe… Emma stone just does the part really well

[@IcyDiamond]

Bringing her back would ruin Peters arc

[@marvelfantasy472]

Spider-Gwen works because she is the spider hero of her universe and the parallel of her Peter dying. Universes where Gwen and Peter exist in the same universe never work in my opinion.

[@rubaiyat300]

@@marvelfantasy472 I'd disagree. It's taken as a given now with younger folks that Peter gets with MJ, but Gwen was his one true love when she was alive. They've even mentioned that in the "modern" day comics with Peter and MJ. I actually disagree with our Mr. Sunday Movies here that Gwen was only interesting when she came back. Obviously a different era of comics but that speaks to someone that is obviously younger and not that invested in Spider-man lore.

[@infernalpyris52]

@@IcyDiamond I don't think so, I think they might change some stuff from Spiderman 3 and TASM 2

[@IcyDiamond]

@@infernalpyris52 Maybe so

[@WaltOGrams]

I saw a Sony Vaio in real life. I won it from McDonald's in a Casino Royale promotion. It was... well it was certainly a thing you could call a laptop.

[@henryglennon3864]

To be fair, it's the only commercially available laptop that can play VHS tapes.

[@RavenTheVelociraptor]

I got mine in a Blummin Happy Meal GOTTEMM!!!!!!

[@jordy2211221]

Ben finding a clip of Fred Flinstone getting electrocuted in some niche game is peak editing

[@Yandeezy]

14:11 That line “Isn’t *that* the question of the day” has been ingrained in my memory ever since I saw that trailer back in 2014

[@Lynch2507]

I do honestly feel for Garfield in these movies. Like, im sure his bank account is fine regardless, but the dude really really REALLY loved spider man and having all this go down... it sucks tbh. Any other movie , I genuinely think he'd be the best interpretation of the character. Edit: YEAH CALLED IT

[@KeithFraser82]

Poster quote: "IT'S NOT ALL TERRIBLE! ...DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S A F***ING DISASTER!" - MR. SUNDAY MOVIES

[@heinoussage]

i think he means that their are many good film ideas in this movie, its just that they all happen at the same time, like a hurricane

[@OneMan69WolfPak]

I can’t believe that, while discussing the magic blood meaning Peter could bring anyone back to life, neither of you said “with great bloody power comes great bloody responsibility”

[@marlzz92]

Watched this a good few times over the years. “She’s goblin up these floor boards” made me dirty laugh today 🤣👌🏾

[@directorforplastic7929]

TBF it’s only been 1 year lol

[@marlzz92]

@@directorforplastic7929 however long 🤷🏾‍♂️🤣 I rewatch them all the time. Little James told me it’d been a few years … the little shit.🙄🤣

[@USxEGames]

One of my biggest pet peeves of this movie is the ludicrous idea of us the audience being expected to invest in Harry and Peter's "friendship". Yeah I've also got some millionaire childhood best friends I never mention or have any prior interaction with

[@solarking952]

I think the real problem is that Peter doesn’t come across as super invested in trying to find a way to save Harry. The dude was literally gonna leave his best friend to die a painful death alone so that he could go to England with Gwen.

[@kaylajasmine1943]

That Gwen "white widow" ending is straight up the she hulk origin.

[@ronniefazzio6979]

Still a cool idea in my opinion

[@oddthequiet4868]

Blood transfusion powers is a trope older than Dracula

[@thegodofalldragons]

Honestly a better idea than killing her off, since these movies didn't really have a supporting cast outside the two leads (ergo, once you kill off Gwen, Peter's got basically no other characters to interact with other than his aunt).

[@KlassicLoL]

15:00 challenge failed 😭

[@MrGuy__]

well, there is no funeral in no way home, but he does go to a cemetery (but, it's not the last scene)

[@ajmedia313]

The Tears for Fears reference was pure unadulterated gold

[@maxatrillionfatstacks]

Does anyone remember the really weird cut when Max is talking to himself in the apartment and he suddenly looks over his shoulder like he hears something and then makes a crazy face and it cuts really abruptly to the next scene. It's like a tim and Eric edit.

[@jordanweston9670]

wasn't he talking to his mum?

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Apparently that was his mom that they cut out from the film

[@stevenmcd4741]

The first five Spider-Man movie endings: Four Funerals and a Wedding.

[@advancearts3777]

There was indeed a funeral at the end of NWH.

[@axel132]

At 27 minutes it really feels like they barely scratched the surface of this movie and could have discussed it even more

[@Turd_Rocket]

They actually do discuss it more in the extended audio edition.

[@axel132]

I listened to it as well

[@Jay84844]

peering into feige’s mind threw his notes was super cool i must say

[@holasenorita]

What Feige meant in the note at 18:41 was to reduce some of the scenes which had Peter being emotional so that when we see Peter fully breakdown at the death of Gwen, we can truly feel what he feels. He wasn't exactly critiquing Andrew's acting skills themself.

[@niklashegg]

Ya there’s kind of a screenwriting rule that a character should only cry once in a movie, or they’ll look like an emotional wreck.

[@drummingtomyownbeat]

funeral scene challenge: failed👍🏽

[@R_A120]

The behind the scenes/alternate takes/endings for this movie are absolutely bonkers, the MCU really had a negative effect on most other comic book movie franchises that just scrambled and panicked in attempt to compete with them

[@jonasquinn7977]

I feel like it’s a little unfair to blame the MCU for doing something well and everybody else fucking it up trying to imitate them, they literally had a blueprint they could follow and in this particular case even had Kevin Feige helping them

[@R_A120]

@@jonasquinn7977 Oh yeah I'm not knocking the MCU but more commenting on the effect is had on other movies/franchises a the time, from Spiderman to the DCEU to the Dark Universe, just a bunch of studios trying to find the fastest route to kickstart their own universes

[@creed8712]

@@R_A120 thing is unlike the MCU all those other things shouldn’t need 5 movie to make you care about these characters. You can get away with putting like the other JL members in bvs because people actually know who they are Idk what happened to the dark universe, I thought that shit would be cool to see but I guess both Dracula untold and The Mummy just sucked to much for them to be able to even springboard

[@R_A120]

@@creed8712 BvS needed one more movie to process its ideas I think, I get what it was going for but it had a lot going on, Batman Vs Superman, and then Dawn of Justice, I think the DCEU would be in a very different place if they were a little more patient but you can tell they wanted to make Justice League as soon as possible

[@jonasquinn7977]

@@creed8712 I’m going to have to disagree with you there, partially because it isn’t fair to assume everyone seeing the movie should just know who the characters are from the comics and make no attempt to establish them But also because the DCEU is one of the worst offenders of this in my opinion, they went from introducing Superman in their first movie to half assedly introducing their versions of Batman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, the Flash and Aquaman and by their fourth movie they brought those characters together without ever establishing why the viewer should give a shit

[@Popper256]

They failed the don’t do a funeral challenge 😞

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Not really. We didn't see the funeral, just Peter visiting the grave.

[@sirforbiddenstatic3904]

i literally was about to comment this lmao

[@Kallabash]

Lmfaoo literally called it on the nwh funeral scene

[@alex01101]

The MCU success was really a curse for films like this, if Sony and DC hadn't been in such a rush to catch up and capitalise on the cinematic universe idea then films like this wouldn't have been such a mess.

[@evernolasco19]

Agreed.

[@jesse1086]

The MCU worked in its infanttsy due to its incredibly slow build. Always one thing at a time (except iron man 2). All thr other guys trying to play catch up decided, "yup everything at once otta do it!"

[@ytuser_3122]

@@jesse1086 and maybe Age Of Ultron with Thor in the pool that Marvel Studios pushed to include as an ad for Infinity War and Thor Ragnarok

[@chand911]

Inject the Feige notes directly into my veins please. I love it.

[@nottherealleo]

Just here to say nwh lost the no funeral scene challenge

[@DarkSpaceStudios]

looking for this comment lol

[@pieceofpi2660]

Love that bit about NWH not having a funeral

[@Jorgemikell]

14:58...LMAO

[@luismantilla5389]

Feige failed the don’t do a funeral challenge

[@WrecklessEating]

The only thing I remember was liking the ending with Rhino & how stupid Electro looked.

[@IcyDiamond]

I thought Electro looked cool

[@chrisbade2119]

Beginning swing scene was top tier

[@RavenTheVelociraptor]

hahahaha!

[@owie4070]

I think that's plenty.

[@themostdislikedchannel]

What

[@ChefBrownSauce]

Kevin Feige unfortunately failed the Spider-Man: No way Home Don’t-Do-a-Funeral Challenge™

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Peter does visit a grave in No Way Home, but there's no funeral. None of the Watts trilogy movies have a funeral... But Civil War, Endgame, and Into The Spider-Verse all do.

[@LachM2011]

I was watching Tilt the Room at my local JB-Hi-Fi while watching this. These are the only pieces of Australian culture I dare interact with, lest I risk Grant Denya's wrath

[@owie4070]

I've never heard of it, but I'm definitely going to look for clips now.

[@craiglee5460]

Your 50th like. Glad to give you the Big Pineapple.

[@craigreilly1613]

You were watching it on your Sony Vaio I'm assuming

[@kalleilageisman]

beware the dropbear squatting in the rafters

[@ulmerbrothers2076]

I love putting the clip of SpongeBob and Patrick holding in laughter over these two laughing. I don't know, James and Maso just give off the same vibe as those two. It just fits really well

[@reubenm.d.5218]

The sound when Gwen hits the ground gives me a visceral reaction every time

[@mkdroz91]

"If there's a funeral scene, just take it out!" 😬

[@Nick-4K]

The thing that bothers me the most about this movie, is that I can just feel there is a good film in here. If Sony wouldn't have pushed their sinister 6 agenda. It might of actually been good. I think we need a Mark Web Cut.

[@IcyDiamond]

Who was that person that Harry was talking to at the end, was it Doc Ock?

[@mikester4896]

@@IcyDiamond It was actually the guy who had the idea to make the Sony Vaio

[@IcyDiamond]

@@mikester4896 Oh so it’s the classic Spider-Man villain Vaio Man

[@jaredballoonboy7944]

@@IcyDiamond The Gentleman. Look it up.

[@IcyDiamond]

@@jaredballoonboy7944 Is that his actual villain name?

[@King_Jrad]

no way home had a funeral XD

[@Dragonten312]

The don't do a funeral challenge. Well....

[@rashedsaied]

15:05 Well... Marvel clearly didn't listen to this podcast.

[@Glettification]

Pretty sure the Electro design is based on Ultimate Electro, right? It is still a lot of Lightning McManhattan but it does at least have precedent.

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

The first fight is pretty similar to the fight from the Ultimate Spider-Man game.

[@sinvector8020]

And how Electro got his power is identical to the way he got it in the show The Spectacular Spider-Man.

[@RetroIsaac]

Yeah I'm not the biggest comic guy but i feel like even I've seen that look before.

[@Turd_Rocket]

They actually mention that in the extended audio edition.

[@JimmyBoots1986]

Not Spider-Man related, but a lot of what came out of that Email hack was fascinating. I want to see a video on it, like the proposed 21 Jump Street/Men in Black crossover MiB23.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

I would’ve rather got that then Men In Black International

[@OmniOtaku]

Feige did pass the no funeral test.

[@F1rsttimer]

The best part of these two Spider-Man movies is also the worst part; Andrew Garfield is too good of an actor.

[@DoctorDex]

Now I'm convinced every tv show in Australia is a Tilt the Room spinoff. Surely makes the morning news more interesting to watch at least.

[@MattMcIrvin]

It's the Tilt the Room Expanded Universe!

[@jordanweston9670]

it was an evening show

[@359339]

The piece of the movie that really lost me was Peter just straight-up stalking Gwen. It made him someone I could not relate to or sympathize with at all.

[@jordanweston9670]

he was keeping tabs on the woman he loved because he couldn't fully. let her go

[@359339]

He was using his superpowers to follow and spy on someone, rather than helping people in need. Even a kids show like Miraculous Ladybug gets that that's not cool.

[@Eidlones]

@@jordanweston9670 Yes, that's stalking.

[@abel_medaris]

One of my favorite things about these videos is how they casually bring up obscure old news or behind the scenes almosts and maybes that i would not have known about otherwise

[@DavidKen878]

Ikr. Hearing Kevin Feige's notes was amazing.

[@bingchilling3914]

Looks like they failed the "No Funeral Challenge"

[@Entropic_Alloy]

It was always bananas to me that Peter just wouldn't give Harry the blood. He is your "best friend" that is dying ffs.

[@jaredballoonboy7944]

The movie tries to explain this by saying that Peter's blood could cause Harry's condition to accelerate, which doesn't make any sense. Why can't Spidey tell Harry that his blood may be incompatible with him? Harry is the CEO of Oscorp, a company that has the best scientists in the world, surely they could have devised a cure for him using a blood sample from Peter.

[@ArmoredMexican]

@@jaredballoonboy7944 Probably because he just had to deal with someone turning into a monster in the last movie and didn’t want to chance that happening to his best friend.

[@shiningknight23]

@@jaredballoonboy7944 I feel an easy way they could've explained it, since Peter is a science nerd, just have him get a sample of Harry's blood, do some tests on it with his, and have him find out his blood is actually incompatible. Peter wanting to help his friend but finding an actual supported reason why he shouldn't give Harry his blood instead of just going "Nah" would've been a lot more sensical.

[@shawklan27]

He might has well not have shown up if he didn't want any conflict. Man they made Pete into a asshole in this film

[@ArchangelExile]

Kevin Feige didn't listen.

[@danrandall3302]

To who about what?

[@Hostilewarr]

Oh boy the funeral part did not age well

[@jakewhiston6461]

At least Spiderman wasn't at the funeral just some random guy called Peter Parker

[@gh0strickle_ftw155]

Lol no way home lost the funeral challenge lol

[@marvelfantasy472]

Spider-Gwen wasn't created until late 2014 after this movie was shot and released, there is no way that rumoured ending with her being in her Spider-Gwen costume is real.

[@Turd_Rocket]

They mention that in the trivia section of the extended audio edition.

[@JMMF698]

3:30 the best live action suit to this day imo

[@blatblan]

"just take the funeral out" lol

[@jimberjamber8540]

It still really bothers me that when Electro was doing his zappy zap stuff in Times Square, everyone started running up the Red Steps..... but they don't go anywhere.....

[@adhirg]

I think there was water on the ground which is what the people were trying to get away from. but yeah, it’s a bit weird and hard to track.

[@nikksann]

They should have casted the hologram of Michael Joseph Jackson as J.J. Jameson.

[@zephyr1249]

I have a confession: this is my guilty pleasure film. I love this movie. I love Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man, I love the way his suit looks, I love the villain designs, the romance (even if the end of it bothers me like it does everyone else). It’s a mess, but it’s mess that I love

[@TinaOe]

Yeah same, I'm with you.

[@denlillaflakten4220]

Yeah i agree. Andrew is probably my favorite spiderman.

[@wisespidey]

Me too

[@Darth-Turtle]

lol yup, this movie is one of a kind whether you love it or hate it. It's so rewatchable because even the bad scenes are entertaining or amusing and the good parts are just so good

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

I like the first suit way better

[@DJMooseKnuckle]

15:19 this edit of Andrew screaming WHATT then cutting to something else is just so great

[@xnnea]

he did the funeral🤣🤣

[@IcyDiamond]

Unpopular Opinion: I kinda liked Electro in this movie, I just wish he got more screen time compared to Green Goblin

[@VerticlSpoon]

Electro was sick after rewatching it

[@CityPlannerPlaysChair]

I'm glad they brought him back for NWH. Foxx was great with what he had.

[@civilcynic3725]

What are you talking about? Electro was the films main villian he had the most screentime, goblin was there for about 8 minutes, you really think electro need just 8 more minutes?

[@IcyDiamond]

@@Wade_N Agreed 100%

[@IcyDiamond]

@@civilcynic3725 Well Harry before he becomes Goblin has way more screen time than Electro did

[@Kajed8963]

Oh God, the ending song caught me off guard, Ben you've done it again. Or Laurence.

[@charlesberg1234]

The fact you guys called spiderman at yet another gravestone is amazing

[@personM4N]

Caravan of Garbage: *ends it on Gwen slamming the back of her skull into the ground* Me: ...guys, c'mon

[@nandovee2025]

The fact Gwen Stacy is supposedly just out of high school and yet works at oscorp and know the full inner workings of the city electrical grid still annoys me. Nonsense

[@hothotheat3000]

Maybe she’s been an intern for a few years? Or they have a program for bright teens to work there during summertime? It’s possible. A lot of major corporations have recruiting programs like that for young people.

[@skaterkid7able]

She was interning for them back in the first movie so maybe she's been interning for a couple of years

[@champo976]

If she had just graduated and was normal, and went to college for STEM, probably getting an internship after sophomore year, but she's sort of a super genius right? I've met ppl who had amazing internships in college freshman year its not that far fetched I think

[@deltafive_o-first2417]

The opening web swing is one of my favorite openings to anything ever

[@Odinson42]

The funeral prediction came to pass.

[@dannyboay9704]

Safe to say that Kevin Feige failed the funeral challenge for “No Way Home”

[@AbsoluteTravisT]

The tiny specific thing that totally ruined Gwen's death for me was the absolute tool who thought it was soooo clever to animate Spidey's web to look like a tiny hand reaching out for her made me laugh out loud in the cinema.

[@terancetan5503]

What makes symbolism work is if the audience notices the SUBTLE details. Not if it is so glaringly obvious. Something like that was made to be laughed at.

[@FairFuse]

Do Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions, the video game! It's a multiple different Spider-Men from different dimensions thing, just like the upcoming movie Spider-Man: No Way There's This Many Different Spider-Men

[@lolstuffenjoy9880]

And the already existent spiderverse movie, into the spiderverse

[@MattMcIrvin]

@@lolstuffenjoy9880 Which is not just the best Spider-Man movie but possibly the best superhero movie of any kind.

[@taliamason7986]

@@MattMcIrvinLogan might heavily disagree with you there.

[@christostryfonopouls5204]

Sad to report no way home failed the No Funeral Challenge 😔

[@gm2407]

Spiderman films before No way home. "4 Funerals and a Jilting"