The Analogue NT Mini Noir Has A FLOPPY Cartridge Slot! WHY? Does It Actually Matter?

[@Madlittlepixel]

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[@fourmula4812]

red ring of deth versus the slopy wobbles

[@Bootleg_Man]

This boils down to the fact that if you are paying a premium price you deserve a premium product.

[@cybernitemusic]

Egg Zackt Lee.

[@atom_zero5413]

☝️

[@MrMegaManFan]

It makes me glad that it sold out while I had it in my cart trying to check out. $500 for a wobbly cartridge slot? No thanks!

[@ScubaDiverPicker]

And if you bought the Noir then you got a high quality product.

[@ewrooney]

Don’t worry guys the Analogue NT mini noir cartridge slot stiffiner is coming soon in 2021(limited quantities). Pre order now!!!!

[@jamesgriffyn]

Only 199.99!!

[@XXTROB]

Hey if you pay $500 for something you expect top quality....that floppy slot is not acceptable

[@elmalloc]

I will sale mine to a prospective buyer for $1000.

[@anthonyjacoway7364]

I remember years ago when the Analogue NT the non mini, had a very sharp and stiff cartilage slot that had a tendency to scratch cartridges. I remember people were not happy with that. So I assume they over corrected. My 1st run NT mini has the same problem, but if you watch old reviews you'll see them talk about the slot no longer scratches cartridges. Not making an excuse, but it is something I remember.

[@MrMegaManFan]

I had a giggle thinking that somehow there was a 3.5" floppy DISK cartridge slot and trying to figure out why the hell they would've done that. PS: I just bought one from the latest batch. Let’s see how floppy that slot is now!

[@Mindartcreativity]

LOL I was thinking the same thing!😂

[@DragonMasterSubo]

Hey now, my mom makes the best NES cartridges in the kitchen.

[@simgarfu]

And breakfast

[@ThePoorMansRetroGameRoom]

Keep it up man! I know I can trust you for honest reviews.

[@meetoo594]

For the money this thing cost that's an unacceptable flaw that should have been caught in the design phase and certainly not shipped to customers. $500 for something as shoddy as that is just taking the piss to be honest.

[@dannyconnell8827]

This really just makes me happy that I ordered an AVS.

[@crazyoldschool6342]

I have an avs. It doesn't play every Nintendo game.

[@sade281]

Ha i hav one too I love it I had the 500 nes on PO I cut it can’t pay that much for that and the avs was like 160 I am good with that

[@dannyconnell8827]

@@crazyoldschool6342 out of curiosity which games doesn't it play? The only issue I ever heard was on earlier models and carts with a green strip. That was fixed with an updated cart slot. I know it doesn't play light gun games, but I don't have a CRT so it's not a biggie for me.

[@needgamesnow3466]

My AVS plays multicarts.

[@crazyoldschool6342]

@Ferniand Von Edgelord not sure about flash carts, but some original nes games just don't work on it. Sky shark is one of them. It does support most though. So you should be okay.

[@NitroCigarette]

I love the people that try so hard to justify this stuff by saying ''Don't touch it while playing!'' like... yeah? And? For the price, it shouldn't be doing this. And Analogue's ''reasoning'' is some total BS.

[@HeyBuddyLuv]

I just find it hilarious that some people had an issue with that. How does someone have an issue about someone else’s opinion? Never understood that type of mindset. Great video man, keep them coming!

[@bishbosh7728]

3d print a support bracket like a sleeve an inch or two tall that clips onto the sides of the machine something that can easily be removed and replaced. Just a thought

[@KingNothing100]

Mines floppy, but I've jailbroken it, so the time I'll be using the cart slot will be minimal anyways, might get a Famicom N8 Pro for save states.

[@reagandow850]

When you pay $500 (plus way too much shipping and handling) way in advance for something and you’re not happy with it you absolutely have a right to speak up. I’ll never understand why people make excuses for companies offering shoddy products that they pay great money for. Edit: as far as the blinking light goes.....put a tiny piece of black electrical tape over the light or something similar.

[@BubblegumCrash332]

500 bucks and you get a floppy slot. Wtf but at least you get a dope ass dragon glitch

[@justinwiedrich6235]

I agree, just don't touch the cartridge. I do know that not everyone has their console on a table or desk, so if they have it on the floor so many different ways to accidentally nudge the console or cartridge and cause it to glitch. It just shouldn't have been made that way and i see this as a opportunity for those 3D printer people to fill the market with accessories to help with this problem/ish.

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

"your mom made it in the kitchen" I died

[@SuperNicktendo]

I got a 3D printed part that should keep that cartridge more snug. I honestly haven't had issues with official carts wobbling and causing issues. Although if you reach for that power button while the cart is running, you can possibly nudge it.

[@fthetm]

Is this a 3D printer part you bought or something you made?

[@SuperNicktendo]

@@fthetm I have a friend who has a 3d printer. If you search thing verse for analogue nt, you'll find the plans.

[@nutz4gunz457]

I fixed the floppiness on mine with 2 very thin strips of 2mm thick adhesive backed black felt in the top of the cartridge slot. Works perfect, and doesn't look unsightly.

[@Madlittlepixel]

On the top of the cartridge flaps?

[@schrodobaggins7614]

got any pictures to demonstrate this?

[@nutz4gunz457]

@@Madlittlepixel Not on the flaps themselves, just above them on the inner rim of the cartridge slot. One 2mm thick strip on the front and one on the back of the slot perfectly takes up the slop.

[@JTSuter]

I wonder if there is a hack where we can add slight padding on front and back of the inside of the slot? Mine's coming in a few days, so I'll try something out. Yeah, I can't stand how floppy that is.

[@bryanssj3949]

I love your videos men! Just cant forget when you dropped the penguin at Mario 64 😪 greetings from Chile!! Btw, that NES everdrive looks awesome! 😍

[@captain3186]

For $500 (PS5 Money) that is completely unacceptable. I expect this from cheap clones not a $500 Analogue NT. It wouldn't fly with me at all.

[@jasoncorganbrown]

Wow for 500 that cartridge wobble is unacceptable !

[@dtester]

For 500 bucks they could have designed a "shim" or stabilizer as an optional use thing. You can probably use some cardboard to reduce wiggle. I use to do the same thing for the Sega Nomad. Oh and for the blinking light...opaque tape :)

[@homiedclown]

I can just see it now, look at my brand new $500 NES system, let me just wedge some cardboard in here so it will play properly...

[@dtester]

@@homiedclown The finest cardboard money can buy!!

[@KaijuClub]

One of the things I always appreciate is how honest you are with your reviews. If I spent $500, the floppy slot thing would bother me.

[@dwightdixon8508]

My recollection is the first Analogue NT (not the FPGA Analogue NT mini) was the slot and primarily the flaps were scratching the cartridges upon removal. Owners complained about their expensive/rare cartridges being damaged. Analogue created a solution and sent out free of charge which was a very thin clear plastic piece that you would insert into the Analogue NT slot and your cartridges would then pass thru it instead of touching the slot/flaps. Analogue continued to “improve” the slot/flaps on future Analogue NT releases to resolve this issue all the way to the Analogue NT mini Noir. I believe this is the improvement Analogue is talking about. These improvements may have caused the slot itself to increase in size or the actual contact of the console vs cartridges over these releases now causing the floppy or wobbly carts being seen in these vids. I have 3 revisions of Analogue NT/mini NT consoles including the original Analogue NT with the clear pieces Analogue sent out. I have not contacted Analogue about this history or their improvements claim so I could be completely wrong about their statements on the subject.

[@AndreVandal]

OMG, it's Wigglegate!

[@UncommonSense131]

😂

[@jeff15]

No touching !!!! 🤣😂 fantastic video. Thanks for the update. Keep them coming !

[@bengmo64]

I think it's pretty reasonable to nitpick a luxury item like that, at least a little bit

[@sheyshah2848]

Floppy slot an absolute no no. Floppy equals sloppy design. Shame on them for such an oversight.

[@ironsienna]

8:12 Your Super NT dances together with your mini!

[@CoryJacobsen]

analogue needs to make a silicone cartridge condom. something that fits around the cartridge but fills up some of the space... maybe they should do a limited pre-order. make only like 30 of them, cus why not?

[@Maldroth]

An idea, if there is space between the console PCB and the bottom of the cartridge shell when it is fully inserted I wonder if a small rubber spacer on either side of the slot cut to the right height and length might help give the right platform for the cartridge to wobble less when in the slot. It wouldn't be a perfect solution but at least wouldn't be seen compared to modifying the slot flaps or something else. Right now it seems like the cart PCB and the slot are the only things holding things up right now and with NES carts being so tall it makes a taller lever to allow wobble.

[@elgigante2001]

Besides the wobble corrupt you current game session, but in the long term it could also damage the pin connector and not read the cartridge correctly.

[@cjtquk]

NES games when wobbled on a top loader: crashes and glitches... ... Sonic 3D when wobbled on a Mega Drive/Genesis : Congratulations! You found the secret level select screen!

[@consty715]

Listen if i end up with a floppy slot, she ain’t getting no money, same for my consoles

[@jamestcat565]

As I am going to get a Everdrive based off of the Famicom Cartidge form to insert into my eventual NT Mini Noir, I should invest in a NES to Famicom cartridge adapter in the case of using NES cartridges with my future NT Noir

[@jqr8049]

This is one of those issues I never would have considered on my own. I put the cart in straight and leave it alone, it even stands up straight without lean. I play on a flat, stable desk. I’m very happy with mine. Could it be better designed though? Perhaps. BTW, by perfected slot, Analogue’s FAQ says they are referring to the pins, not the enclosure.

[@ZombiePhoenix]

I've jailbroken mine. That's good enough for me. I'll just rarely use original carts with it. Also, I think there's a 3D print on thingiverse to allow for the carts to not wiggle as much.

[@makoto4341]

They should have foreseen this, maybe release it with some sort of temporary addon for the slot that you can remove? There's like a million ways they could have resolved this, specially for the price.

[@Ragesauce]

They can make a cartridge slot insert and send it out to the customers.

[@jayceodell]

Dragon warrior was the first NES game I ever owned as a kid, I have never seen that glitch dragonlord screen before till today. Thank you sir

[@z3razerviper]

Analogue said they fixed the connector not the slot.

[@fordxbgtfalcon]

The loose cartridge is definitely an issue, I was playing zelda 2 on mine and my cat walked across it and brushed up against the cart and it lost its connection . For the $500 I paid it should not do that.

[@seanm1738]

The Analogue Floppy Slot sounds like some kind of 50's sock hop.

[@jameshenderson4089]

My noir got lost. They finally tracked it down today and they are shipping it tomorrow. They said they had the wrong postal code but I have ordered many systems & adapters from them. Everything got worked out & there customer service was great. A little slow but it’s a pandemic.

[@eltouco1]

"what NES homebrew cartridge your mum made it in the kitchen ?!..." I just spit my coffee right there hahah love u Madlittlepixel

[@JustinHemmer]

I thought the slot was intentionally made looser because previous versions of the NT Mini (and the original full size NT) was scratching customers game cartridges badly. I’d much rather have a loose game slot that doesn’t affect game play at all than a bunch of scratched cartridges... I don’t understand why everyone is so upset by this. What dumbass is sitting around wiggling their game back and forth while they are playing? Who does this actually cause any problem(s) for!? I noticed it right away but it’s not an issue at all, nor will it ever be. Is it ideal? No, but there is not much that can be done after the fact other than not bouncing your game around intentionally while playing. Not that there will ever be a next time (since this was the final run), Analogue could make the slot tighter to fit the cartridges and avoid the scratching issue altogether by utilizing a couple of silicone strips along the edges of the slot flaps! ;)

[@dwightdixon8508]

Exactly my understanding as well. Wish I would have read down the thread more before leaving basically the same comment.

[@thefifthdoctor6780]

Mines arriving tomorrow and for the money that sure does look disappointing.

[@clhauk]

Take a shot of your favorite hard liquor every time he says "floppy slot." I promise you will be comfortably numb by the end of the video.

[@WWammyy]

Its not because it's shallow in depth it's mostly because they didn't design the new consoles with the slot locking mechanism as the original consoles did. In the PAL SNES they literally lock in so you can't pull them out

[@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct]

NGL, when I read the title, I thought the NT mini had a *FLOPPY disk drive* for FDS games :P

[@homiedclown]

That would have been pretty dope actually.

[@ryancat001]

I agree with all your points. Refined cart slot?? Ehhh, maybe by a millimeter? Analogue is all marketing that’s for sure. That said, I love the hell out of their products and I know any software/hardware that’s Kevtris related is going to be quality

[@ericochoa4034]

Not too mention the crappy controller ports! Original controllers slide in and out of the ports without any resistance at all!

[@DokterRoetker]

I wish someone would make FPGA boards that could fit an original shell or a replica of an original shell. This way you have the original looks, and still the benefit of new hardware inside.

[@homiedclown]

I'm sure at this point someone has stuck a MISTER inside an original NES case.

[@Djerique]

Would be nice to see a comparison video between the v1 and the v2(Noir). Since there are much more changes than only the NES slot according to the official changelog of Analogue.

[@onriica]

Check out MyLifeInGaming’s video on the noir

[@katkillad]

I don't supposed you or anyone in the comments has tested the FDS Stick with the Noir? I've got a FDS stick and two different ram adapters and it's not working for me.

[@poodudeelite]

All NES carts, even repro and after market have the same exact thickness. There's no reason they couldn't have machined the shell within a millimeter tolerance of a cart shell.

[@RedDev1l757]

Met some women with floppy slots in my time too. It's never a good thing especially when paying a premium.

[@vram1974]

If they'd lose that stupid dip in the center to raise the shell higher, it would support the NES cart a little better. Also, why does this thing have an aluminum case when they could use plastic like the rest of their lineup?

[@obiwanshinobi4456]

glad to know that other than me physically wiggling the cart instead of playing the game, it would take a 10.0+ earthquake or an orangutan violently shaking my console stand in order for this to matter

[@reginaldbauer5243]

So, to go with your car analogy in your other video/review, it's a Mercedes with reclining seats then?

[@KYBlueJedi]

Stick to your Guns MLP! 7:31 The best DW speedrun ever!!!!

[@bearclaus2676]

Damn i love that modded Toploader, Ron. Thats all i want. Professionally modded original consoles.

[@sangbeta2043]

The board could have been engineered with the FC connector higher than NES, then the top shell could be higher.

[@stuartcole4845]

They never said they redesigned the slot. They said they redesigned the CONNECTOR. With the first NT people were getting issues with resetting/glitching when the cart was inserted and stable and not even moving.

[@Madlittlepixel]

Just stop dude. I don't care what it is they mean, this is what they said. "Nt mini v2 features a new and perfected NES cartridge slot"

[@stuartcole4845]

Madlittlepixel I think you misunderstand me. I’m not trying to defend them or be a fanboy. I like their stuff, but they can certainly over promise and under deliver, and then weasel their way out by their very careful choice of words. Their reason for keeping the slot loose is bullshit. Is the aluminium shell identical to the last version? Maybe they had a bunch of shells left over and they could only partially correct the issue by making a better connector and/or it was too expensive to redesign a new shell with a tighter slot. MUCH cheaper to upgrade the connector on the PCB to be tighter. My nt and sg are not getting the firmware updates for fixes for issues/bugs that have now been there for like a year. And I’m pissed at how they handled their Pocket launch. They are FAR from perfect.

[@georgecardenas2420]

Is this only an issue with the NT Mini Noir? I have my OG NT Mini and I don't seem to have this issue. If anything, my slot is super tight.

[@Robert-gw6py]

Couldn't Analogue or some other enterprising individual with a 3D printer mock up a snap on (or just slide in) "bubble up" adapter to better hold the cartridge?

[@Grooveraider]

Makes me appreciate my MiSTer even more ! I'm fine with my original consoles on a CRT with an Everdrive. Analogue is overpriced for my taste as a single console fpga.

[@splugereport]

I mean the cartridge slot is truly borderline unusable. wtf man. I just leave my overdrive in it but I really wish that the jail broken firmware allowed save states so I wouldn't have to do that.

[@DanielBarbaro]

I've been waiting years for this to be re-released and mine finally came in the mail last week... Now I just want to return it. $535 shipped I feel was a rip off.. I'm a moron.

[@DanielBarbaro]

@@moontecker sucks to be me then. This thing only sucks because I bought it.

[@richardlynch329]

My copy of Super Mario 3 didn't play right away, the bottom where the item bar is was all glitches out, I had to take it out and re-seat it a couple times. The pins are super clean, I use it no problems with original NES, Top Loader, and a cheap clone console, I'm disappointed with it, the slot is super floppy and sensitive. If you have a player two with a wired controller, they could accidentally pull the console slightly just barely, and it would glitch out.

[@elguero117]

My dumbass though it had a floppy disc drive. Lmao

[@TheHobbsTV]

As always I appreciate the video and hearing your opinion. As for me...I have the ps5 xbox series x and I'm playing this more than anything LMFAO! I'm friggin additcted to Analogues products. I secretly wish retrousb would put out competing fpga consoles like the AVS cause it's awesome too 😃

[@miketate3445]

Any other gen x people out there see the title and think that maybe this thing had a slot for a good ol' 5.25 inch disk?

[@murrij]

Love that portable monitor. Might be an Xmas present for myself. I didn't even know these existed until MLP skewled me.

[@atom_zero5413]

People are just being fanboys. If I ordered a 500 dollar console I'd be pissed with that floppying

[@Madlittlepixel]

Fanboys are the problem most the time. They are blind and cannot deal with reality. Its ok to like something and recognize the flaws... But nope not these guys...

[@atom_zero5413]

@@Madlittlepixel you are awesome and truthful. Never change.

[@Lorfarius]

I'm sure on the last one someone released a 3D printer bit to go in the slot. Hopefully someone will do the same here!

[@dereckh]

yeah.. $500 that thing better not wiggle at all

[@thorc4167]

Same flopping with a famicom cart?

[@Madlittlepixel]

nope, Famicom slot is fine

[@thorc4167]

@@Madlittlepixel makes sense since the famicom cart is much more compact.

[@jay9058]

Laserbear put in a comment that he was going to work on something for this. If they ever make a plastic version I’ll buy, if not well I only have 6 games any way 😂

[@Sedifet]

I don't think it is nitpicking. For any price, nevermind $500, I would not be happy with a console that if knocked or moved can reset the game. In my house this would happen all the time, due to tight spaces and other people and animals running around all the time.

[@ElGranMoco-XB]

Thank you for elaborating on this. You’re right - this is a $500 system and the floppy slot is subpar. Although I’m happy to not have sunk my hard-earned cash into this device, this kind of crap would have made it very easy for me to resell at a premium on the secondary market. Boo.

[@cybernitemusic]

I like how the design of the AVS physically is... better TBH. But I think I like the NTs software a bit better. Oh well.

[@tubinonyou]

To me, that flop is unacceptable. I don't own the product so it doesn't matter if I accept it or not but... dear god... it drives me nuts just looking at it. You are a better man than me MLP for mustering the psychological strength to abstain from, not only selling the NT mini noir but, just getting out of retro gaming for good due to the atrocity that is flopgate 2020.

[@Xanduur]

The part that sent me to the MISTer is the core nonsense on the “unofficial” jailbreak. It supports Genesis, but not NES. So many bad decisions.

[@akxmedia0]

Hey....did anyone try using a game genie in this thing? I wonder if it A) Fits or B) Can be used as a cheat device and C) Add any stability.

[@whitezombie0002]

Yes a Game Genie fits, yes it can be used as a cheat device like on a normal NES (there is one built in the OS), yes it adds stability because the PCB of the Game Genie is thicker. You can even just use it as passthrough device and use the OS cheat engine.

[@akxmedia0]

@@whitezombie0002 Wait, so it actual DOES work and adds stability!? I'm curious. If you can enter codes, and then immediately load up a game via NT Noir menu, the cheat works fine? What happens if you use cheats via Game Genie (total of 3) and then use the Noir's GG cheats (however many you can use...let's say 5) That means all 8 will function? If thats true, that is actually pretty awesome. Might want to spread the word that it helps with stability as a lot of people are complaining about that.

[@whitezombie0002]

@@akxmedia0 Not sure if it can be combined like that for more codes or if one of them might override the other. Too many might make the game unstable and crash!

[@wisej0e81]

Floppy Slot Syndrome, 😂, don't listen to the haters this is why I watch your content because you are not "married" to the products you review and you call out crap out when you see it. I cannot tell you how much this helps me and the others hard earned money. thanks for all the great vids.

[@bobboberson]

I clicked on the video because I was like, woah they put a floppy disc port lol

[@Madlittlepixel]

Unintential clickbait 🤣

[@thisisallthereis]

I know you like the floppy slots

[@TheSwartz]

Floppy Slot Syndrome LOL! Maybe I don't feel so bad about not being able to get one of these..

[@limelorax]

Seems kind of strange that people would spend 500 on a nes clone when they could spend it on a gaming rig and play and do much more with it.

[@meetoo594]

Or a raspberry pi with a nice case and controllers. Its not as if the NES is hard to emulate. This thing is just on the market to fleece consumers, there are sub $30 clones on Amazon that are almost as good bar all the bells and whistles on this thing that pretty much no one will use.

[@oogrooq]

Poor design. Form over function. I will be selling mine eventually.

[@bryanssj3949]

I wanna buy an s-video for my n64 and snes from insurrection industries, do you think that is worth to pay the extra price for the hd rv component cables? I play on CRT

[@bryanssj3949]

Did you activate the 480p option on the Wii? And it looks cool on crt, I have hd retrovision cables for the Wii and love to use them whit my trinitron's

[@matthewjohnson1891]

If your playing on a crt s video is amazing

[@bryanssj3949]

@@matthewjohnson1891 Im gonna get it soon ! thanks :)

[@bones2323232323]

Is it "my kid put a box on their head and ran face first into my table" proof? For some reason people don't expect people to have kids and my kids are hype and love video games. If you pay $500 for a premium nes system the cartridge slot could at least be comparable to the antique top loader. The fact that it isn't is a bit unacceptable.

[@brianoleary6332]

At first, I thought it was a console with a floppy disk drive. LOL!!

[@themediadead7787]

They need to make it Chunkier. Less pancake more birthday cake. That way they can control the height or depth of the cart. NES needs to go waayyy lower. $500 ?!? R U Serious? Old Floppy slots to insert some dusty carts. There's like a millions jokes here, I'm actually bottle necked.

[@zairman]

"Slot Floppin" oh yeah....I'm using this....

[@UncommonSense131]

Gotta watch out for those floppy slots! 🤣