The Ancient Sumerians

[@timsmith6675]

I'm so glad the Sumerians wrote on clay tablets so we could have these stories today. It's so amazing that they were forgotten for thousands of years but they were rediscovered about 150 years ago.

[@Kalimdor199Menegroth]

@Chuck Thunder They do count as kingdoms. But not the ideal of an unified centralized monarchical kingdom. Ironically, both civilizations influenced each other. The struggles of the late 3rd millennium in Sumer to unify under a single leadership most likely was determined by the success of the Egyptian unification of Upper and Lower Egypt and the zenith reached during the Old and Middle Kingdoms period.

[@michaelciccone2194]

Commercial time.

[@ikwikwi]

Epic of gilgamesh sounds like a simple work of fiction

[@PacdemonStudios1]

@@ikwikwi It does, but there was a historical king of Uruk named Bilgames predating the Akkadian empire iirc. People theorize that Humbaba was a mythological representation of lion made monstrous; it could be an ancient king either exaggerating his own life, his descendants exaggerating to claim divine right, or half-remembered events passed down and eventually written, for example. Troy was long thought to be completely fictional, but the ruins were found in Turkey. It was a vassal city of the Hittite empire called Wilusa, there's a treaty between Hatti and a king or ruler "Alaksandu" of Wilusa, one of the gods cited on his side of the treaty is the "stormgod of the army" Apaliunas - in the Iliad Prince Alexandros of Ilios (Paris of Troy) was protected by the god Apollo in battle. In Gilgamesh he goes to a known location, the cedar forests of Lebanon, which the story claims reach 10,000 leagues in each direction (30,000m or 55,560km). The circumference of the Earth is 24,902 miles, or 40,075km. Exaggerated truth is a definite possibility.

[@zekiisler2341]

@@jonbinki9651 Cause Abraham was born in Sumer and raised according to the Sumerian culture and myths. So it şs obvious that He included all the Sumerian myths into his monotheistic religion. Nothing suprised if you know the history. But knowing these things as a Muslim, as a Jew or As a Christian must be shocking and requires some time to swallow.

[@HoundofOdin]

"The Gods expected human beings to use their lives to help maintain order, and this included finding a way to work together." Words of wisdom more need to hear today.

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

What civilization performed the first @nal?

[@lordski1981]

​@@maspesasmasperras5554 Your Mom..... 😏

[@99nagariabbas]

Our village name is still referred as Sumer and Exist in Gilgit Pakistan is one of the villages of Nagar state. There are folk stories that the our insisters have come from Iraq and Sumer due to a war. Thankful to researchers and participants of this documentary which is very helpful to discover the past

[@شبلمذحجالطعان]

The Sumerians are closer to the Semitic group like the Arabs, the Jews, the Akkadians and the Assyrians. J1-M267 campaign The Africans have nothing to do with us.

[@seesaw7320]

Ancestor*

[@cattymajiv]

@@seesaw7320 You do realize I hope that we all know what was meant, and that the person is doing a great job writing in what is not their fist language. They and we don't need the spelling police.

[@seesaw7320]

@@cattymajiv nah don't make it that big of a deal, dude can just correct himself if he so wants if not no one's hurt

[@tsawal]

​@@seesaw7320we corrected it in our brains... wish you had the same power

[@francissreckofabian01]

Nice summary. Amazing to think such an important culture was forgotten until the 19th century.

[@aaronjaben7913]

I think you meant Sumery

[@ohsweatbret]

@@aaronjaben7913 hahahaha I wish I could up vote this 1000 times

[@aaronjaben7913]

@@ohsweatbret ;-)

[@susanhawkins3890]

This civilization was destroyed... the cuneiform written language has now been translated from early Turkish.

[@zedwms]

The oldest recorded joke is from Sumer: “Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband’s lap.” I love the perennial bathroom humor, but what I really love is that someone 5000 years ago was talking about time immemorial.

[@geraldfriend256]

They wore out potty humor....Like Amy Schumer...in ancient Sumer..fml I am so bored

[@badnbourgeoisie6480]

Absolute banter

[@IBrainedMyDamage]

He didn’t even think that 5,000 years later strangers from different ethnic communities would be reflecting on his joke on KZbin.

[@Wib0]

@@IBrainedMyDamage ethnic 'communities'

[@MisterCharlton]

Been reading A LOT about ancient Sumer lately. I’ve more or less concluded that the Ziggurat was initially created as a means to evade constant, random flooding along the alluvial plain. Other civilizations had mountains of some kind, and could build on higher grounds, but Sumerians could not; therefore they needed to conquer their environment. Unfortunately, since there were no mountains, they could not build entire cities on artificial platforms, which they instead began to reserve for the Holy of Holies (like the White Temple of Aruk).The more and more that flooding would happen, the higher and higher they would make their platforms. Eventually, once irrigation had been perfected, the ziggurat no longer served the same practical purposes it once did, but it had cemented itself into something that was inherently symbolic and spiritual. The Sumerians believed that mountains were a literal threshold between earth and heaven, ergo the gods could notice them if they were on a mountain. What do ya think of this little speculation? I was doing some research last night to see if this has been proposed by any notable historians of the past century, and I couldn’t come across anything of note. I even broke open ASoH (Somervell’s abridgment) to see if there was anything about ziggurats (a staple element of Mesopotamian civilization) being a direct result of man’s responding to his environment, but it doesn’t really bring up a whole lot about ancient Mesopotamia (besides the “Syriac Civilization” of Babylonia and Ashur, which was really something completely different entirely)

[@josemaria1035]

Maybe the zigurats were done to hide valuables of a protoagrarian tribe from raids

[@katrussell6819]

Interesting idea. It could be investigated by looking at flooding evidence. Perhaps in the future we will learn much more.

[@lcmiracle]

Interesting hypothesis, and I'd say there's some good correlation here, as cities were tend to be built along rivers, which would have to face frequent floods in the early Neo-Lilith age. Monks Mount being built on the Mississippi floodplain makes sense too. Edit: Apparently Herodotus thought the same.

[@dougraddi908]

You have some imagination...

[@JP-rf8rr]

Maybe, but I wonder how well mudbrick ziggurats would work against that deep level of flooding. Mudbricks are weak to water which is why many smaller buildings had the first foot or 2 made from stone bricks. These are for smaller buildings holding less weight against what is relatively a smaller flood compared to what you're suggesting. If the flood is so great that the ziggurat needed to be built higher and higher with large amounts of people resting on them, I only see disaster.

[@kenanacampora]

There once was a man from Sumer Who was heard to say “It’s not a tumor”! So they threw him down a well So he’d go straight to hell It’s more of a myth than a rumor.

[@ZinsWorld]

haha nice one

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[@historicaladventurevideos]

The mighty Sumer! Awesome video, keep up the good work!

[@galidorn1]

finding content on Sumeria on KZbin that's not Graham Hancock Ancient Aliens b.s. is priceless

[@nhprman]

I agree! Great to find TRUE history here!

[@ramesses8887]

Agreed!

[@786Muzik]

Thank you for taking the time and hard work put in to share with us!!!

[@bugsytv6852]

Can you do a history on the Chaldean’s ? would be awesome. Not much on them, and they have an amazing history, big and mighty empires. And a few famous Kings.

[@fatefulbrawl5838]

Who are these guys exactly? They sound cool.

[@katianovellamiller6502]

Great documentary. Thanks!

[@hugofreitas7449]

Thank you very much to posting!

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

You are most welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@NumbNutts]

Here before someone claims that the Sumerians were Black, Slavic, Turkic, etc...

[@mehmetkurtkaya3106]

Research on Sumerian Origins is normal. Why not research it?

[@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081]

lol

[@josephanglada4785]

Maybe they were just, IDK, sumerian? maybe?

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

Sumerians were southamericans

[@zaireriggins7877]

They were black

[@theonlygoodlookinghabsburg2081]

22:21 the man, the legend himself.

[@ignominius3111]

I think many would enjoy this link. The performer/scholar Peter Pringle died tragically not too long after its posting. Please honor his life by giving it a listen ( and please forgive my lapse from my personalite du plume)

[@christurner6854]

literally read the name of the channel and subscribed instantly lol

[@ABCboy5]

Great narration, clear and concise.

[@RandyGrover]

Love this. Thank you.

[@fernandogarcia3957]

All those "first things" mentioned are reason enough of why in Western countries we teach that civilization as we know it, is traced back to Sumer and Mesopotamia in general. It may sound obvious, but for younger people for example is good to ask why do we put the focus on this particular culture and how we relate to it even if it´s located far from where and when we live. Cultural difussion is very important to consider throughout time.

[@abiku2923]

Sorry, too antithetical to the goal. The more we teach the children, the less control the state has over them.

[@fernandogarcia3957]

@@abiku2923 Probably, whatever, that is your point, I want to focus on what I said and the narrative that people may have in their heads. What you say it´s tied to it, a derivative, but as I said I want to focus in history, the same as when Nick Barksdale interviewed that lady historian, the bias that she denounced and the bias she showed. I don´t want my baker e.g. to tell me a moral speech, I just want bread from my bakery. The f*king same with the rest of proffessions and jobs. The rest is spurious and not necessary.

[@dougraddi908]

Is that so

[@andybeans5790]

@USA#1 !! because Abrahamic religions. The clue is towards the end of the video, how the Sumerian decline correlated with the elevation of Marduk as supreme deity, which eventually led to the Abrahamic religions which have torn up the region for over a thousand years.

[@RuthlessMcToothless]

@@andybeans5790 That's not completely accurate. The reason why the mid-east is in it's current crisis, is because of ONE Abrahamic religion and it's ethno-centric state Israel. It's plagued the area with so much chaos since it displaced and murdered the real semitic peoples that inhabited the same area in past. Arabic people are very hospitable and friendly, along with most other Muslims that come from that area. I can say that confidently, and I'm a Christian. Islam and Christianity are brother's in faith, seriously. We believe in the same prophets. Don't believe the BS u hear from western media about them being terrorist, cuz that's just propaganda from western intelligence agencies. They want to manipulate the masses into being sympathetic towards Israeli goals.

[@reenatai75]

😍 beautifully narrated

[@m4r_art]

I am going to go and claim something: the climate was far less desertic, and more like what you have in Europe these days. Sandy Mesopotamia is a 4000 years later paradox we live in. It was far less warm, and more temperate.

[@geraldfriend256]

I totally can believe that.My part of the world is trending towards desert .Also Egypt was not as hot and dry then.

[@m4r_art]

@@geraldfriend256 I have a feeling we are living in a strange and unpredictable climatic episode. As much as one super volcano is enough to bring us back to a small ice age like Younger Dryas, say Yellowstone or Krakatoa (being very broad calling these out). But I believe the world is going fora very rainy, wet climate, perhaps shifting of poles, more tropical, more heatwaves, far more insects than in past. Perhaps even more oxygen= bigger insects. And humans will not be liking that. Some will call it global warming, other will claim it's a sign of climatic renewal. To me its more like one more transition towards something completely unpredictable. Maybe it will be a cool-down in some areas where it was never cold, maybe it will be super dry climate in some spaces like major capitals and/or world centers of population. Which will mean migration of population

[@geraldfriend256]

@@m4r_art Sure.The Maldeves Islands are just one example of forced migration .

[@noticing33]

Deffo, they have two massive rivers as well

[@deutsch-kurdischakademie3267]

The Lost and Untold History of the Kurds: Rediscovering the Beginning of the Western Civilisation and the Origin of the Indo-European Languages. Soran Hamarash is a Kurdish writer, academic, historian and linguist who has dedicated nearly 30 years of his life to the study of the Kurds and their history. This book is a comprehensive journey into the beginning of writing and agriculture and, consequently, that of the history of the Kurds which is integral to these two foundational elements of the earliest civilisations. In this book, Mr. Hamarash demonstrates that the modern foundation of our understanding of ancient history and the origin of civilisation was not set for the purpose of knowing the past; rather, it was to serve ideological, religious, and political agendas. This manifested non-objective approaches among scholars, which has resulted in dealing with the people in historical records selectively and in isolation from each other. Consequently, the organic nature of human society is not currently reflected in the existing historiography, and this has led to a significant misunderstanding about ancient history. For the Kurds, it has led to a lost and untold history. A core argument stated here relates to the Sumerians who founded the first writing and one of the most advanced civilisations in human history. Their language is currently considered an isolated one, and allegedly died as a spoken language around 4000 years ago. Nevertheless, this book clearly demonstrates that Sumerian is not only still spoken in its newer form by the Kurds, but that the language is related to modern languages such as English, French, German, Russian and others. This book strongly opposes the conventional understandings of the ancient history of Mesopotamia and Anatolia. It evidences that the key to understanding that history, is the Kurds, the Indigenous people of “the cradle of mankind”. It argues unequivocally that without understanding the history of the Kurds, the origin of the western civilisation and that of the Indo-European languages will remain unknown.

[@darthvader7450]

Look at it this way. If you didn't have the stories in the old testament surviving to the 19th century, you'd never find the Sumerian artifacts.

[@wmpmacm]

Very nicely done. Thank you😀

[@Blvd40]

👏👏 22:22 my favorite part. I too aspire to do VO work

[@serenity6415]

I absolutely love the time-lapse technique! It's a fascinating way to show the changes...

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Check out Ollie Bye on KZbin! His work is phenomenal!

[@theemperor2017]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 sure will!!

[@mango1322]

Ein super information über Sumerien ,,,, ein Meisterwerk

[@valenciawalker6498]

Amazing documentary

[@user-xh8cs3gy2i]

Very good. Bravo 👏🏼

[@rabi78jallo]

Great summary and reading. Thanks

[@creekwalker62]

I thought this video was to be a regurgitation/amalgam of all of the other ancient Sumerian videos on KZbin. I was pleased to be wrong. Kudos.

[@sunnyboy4553]

Thank you very much for this video. I was searching for videos about Nimrod, but all I could find were mostly made by fundamentalist Christian preachers who tied everything back to the Bible. I wanted REAL scholarship, not a pre-conceived ideological/religious bias through which the hard evidence was forced to fit into. I liked your overview and the fact that you left open - but addressed certain central elements of their culture, such as the loss of status of women and the marginalization of the goddesses. Just one teeny suggestion - I would have loved to hear some of their written literature, especially that daughter of the king (her name sounded something like Edwina). It really helps to get a first-hand sense of a people by hearing their own words. Voices From the Past youtube channel has an amazing selection of various ancient firsthand written material. But regardless, I so appreciate that there is real unbiased scholarship on ancient cultures such as your channel up here on YT, and the Bible thumpers have not completely taken the subject over to serve their agenda. Thanks again.

[@attilatasciko4817]

Thanks, great representation.

[@martidiamond7109]

'the first...' recorded... Not the first necessarily... The first recorded of fragments what we interpret

[@ryanmurphy6528]

1:20 woah…kthe land looks exactly like a heart… How strange.

[@patrickdalfre9042]

" And the first aquarium " 😆

[@jayscore7182]

Love the ending haha

[@jamescharles7574]

Last part was the best. Too funny.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

To all these "Firsts" I would add - "that we know about" .

[@proverbalizer]

yes indeed

[@proverbalizer]

i'm surprised he didn't call them the first people to eat food, lol

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

What civilization performed the first @nal?

[@safaaharrouni195]

they were so wise that they didn't have women rights problem until they were invaded, . yet the region today is known for lack of women's right . Damn you Hammurabi for introducing the Patriarchy system

[@attilatasciko4817]

13:50= lagash > in hungarian = lugas = the place , where good to live , the surrounding give peace and prosperity, enjoyment , flourishing thoughts , relaxing place , etc ...

[@TheLionFarm]

15:30 Rise of writing till a lingo franca The Bible is The Chief of all sources Praise be the Most High Way who makes man who write and destroys evil

[@FrankLooez-el6nv]

Can get enough of the summerians. Mesmerizing. Ancient history.

[@johnsmith-ir1ne]

wikipedia says Sumer was a patriarchal society.....but your video appears to suggest otherwise. So i guess wiki is wrong? interesting. thanks.

[@TheTruePopeFrancis]

So Sargon of Akkad went from conquering Mesopotamia, to become a British political KZbinr? Wow, impressive!

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

MathiasJamesMcD it’s sad, the one we have today is just worthless. The OG Sargon would be so disappointed.

[@lovingkat5]

they weren't the first, it was happening world wide, but they are the first written records that todays scholars can read, had we save the Mayan history I am sure that they talk about the same things in their writings

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

desertvet 91 earliest civilizations developed in ancient Mesopotamia. There has yet to be any evidence to the contrary. And from what I’ve read “Mayan” Civilization didn’t occur until much later.

[@lovingkat5]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 oh but there are is just they don't fit with their current history that "they" shoved down into our mind

[@donhendershot9705]

The flashing is annoying as heck! Please don't do that!

[@NecromancyForKids]

Stops people with seizures from watching or enjoying the video

[@jrmetmoi]

Flashing is sexual harassment. You'd better report that.

[@attilatasciko4817]

Thanks, this issues is full of nowdays understandable hungarian words ! 》EREDU -> EREDŐ ! - EREDŐTŐ - EREDTŐ = " THE VERY FIRST > BEGINNING OF SOMETHING ! etc...

[@lonewretch]

Hey mannnn!!!

[@mmhoss]

imagine God just living in your city

[@v.2080]

He wan't God. He was a god.

[@dougthompson8226]

either way you aren`t allowed in the temple...that`s where the rich people live..some things never change

[@dougthompson8226]

@Operator Zero what does that mean ?

[@ohsweatbret]

“Hey god, where’s the damn rain?!?”

[@ohsweatbret]

@@v.2080 he was “God” to them. Stop splitting hairs over your judeochristian “only our god can be capitalized”

[@kaarlimakela3413]

As far as biblical mentions, I only remember reading that the 'patriarch' Abraham originated in 'Ur of the Chaldees' in the KJV.

[@grzegorzzkoszalina]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6iQfJ2dqtyWZqc

[@andybeans5790]

@Frank DeFalco Ur and Chaldea were situated in modern day southern Iraq, about 2,000km from the Caucasus.

[@JackAnna2024]

Nobody gives a shit what you remember...

[@SolracCAP]

Sumer is called Shinar in the Bible.

[@Oshin-en8nb]

Please make a Video About Burned City of Iran(Arata Civilization) which is Older than Sumer and Indus

[@DWDraffin]

Oshin, that's a fascinating idea. Do you know of any texts we might use?

[@carlosbaez3807]

Except for depicting Gutian statues and paintings as Sumerians (when Gutians took over Lagash and imitated Sumerian art).....very thorough video

[@marbanak]

Very enjoyable. If I was paying attention, it looks like the originality of the Garden of Eden story still stands. I still see the parallels to the Sumerian Flood story, and Gilgamesh epic. Yet, the universality of The Flood story would anticipate this finding.

[@guitarmx103]

the flood would’ve been regional, and the Sumerians saw it as the entire world owing to their small perspective. Judaism rose out of the same region, and the oral tradition must have passed on with slight ethnic changes to form the biblical tale.

[@marbanak]

@@guitarmx103 Well, that theory sounds reasonable. I just have a different interpretation of the same facts. Note, in these topics, how much of the reasoning comes in the subjunctive mood, evidence of uncertainty and tentative conclusions.

[@ShangDiAboveGodhood]

No. Even גַּן־עֵדֶן‎ "Garden of Eden" is etymophonically plagiarized from 𒂔 and etymosemically plagiarized from 𒄑𒂞𒄑𒌁. The debt of judeochrislam toward Sumer can never be repaid.

[@marbanak]

@@ShangDiAboveGodhood We may be closer than you think. I say both the Judeo-Christian and Sumerian traditions owe a debt of gratitude to the original story and its living participants. Cheers!

[@ShangDiAboveGodhood]

@@marbanak Sumerians have the Ancestral Memory of The Original Story. It is not the same ilk of debt that the unrelated amnesic semitic tradition, since the latter twisted and deformed.

[@nicholaslozenski5149]

please take the flashing lightning out of the videos. my wife has epilepsy and wants to watch the videos but she can't because whenever the video illustrates conflict it starts to flash lightning.

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Oh no, I’m so sorry! I’ll see what I can do to make that better. Your have our sincere apologies.

[@ohsweatbret]

Serious question, can a lighting storm cause her to go into an epileptic seizure?

[@katrussell6819]

Interesting, but the writer needs an editor. The first "KNOWN" things, for one suggestion. Also, the dating could be more consistent. I enjoyed it anyway.

[@summoniing]

All those firsts, but they didn't have the first youtube comment on a new video though

[@lmf7436]

How do you know that? Hum who said they are not around anymore. Do some research all is connected.

[@JPee-x4you]

Excellent video. Thank you for it. Can you maybe do a doc on Enki and The Anunnaki ? 👌

[@dougreimer2912]

Does not sound like you are interested in genuine Sumerian history. Perhaps you should be following pseudoscience or Sumerian mythology. There is a wealth of such content out there.

[@missdevil6667]

Its a shame that most people don't care it all about history isnt it?

[@ramesses8887]

It is!

[@b1LL1eMc]

call it bce all you want - we all know that the world is divided into before Christ and after Christ...

[@Luthiart]

This video is about as interesting as listening to someone read a warehouse manifest. Do you just keep rattling off dates for 22 minutes?

[@Mrclish5000]

The fact that they called them selves "The Black Headed People" makes me think they knew of people who were different.

[@johnnyreamage]

Either that or they realized the all had black hair.

[@andybeans5790]

It's puzzling as Sumer was fairly central within the near east and it would be quite a distance to places with a distinctly different ethnicity.

[@proverbalizer]

the akadians

[@noticing33]

Black hair not race

[@stefke5862]

It’s too bad the Sumarian language was fased out so we don’t know the origin as it was different than the semitic languages

[@TheLionFarm]

22:10 It of the Chaldeans connect Sumer so I disagree The evidence of the Bible and is biblical narrative of being based on the transition of the fall of the Ur of the third Dynasty meet historical continuity thus showing itself inspired

[@FrogInPot]

You here this argument from AA all the time that because some believe that Summerians brought us so many firsts they must have been given them by God or Aliens, but I would argue that is more likely that many of these "firsts" were already developing over millenia and is mainly because the Summerians invented writing that they were able to claim these gifts from the Annunaki.

[@npgibson69]

I have to question the priority of Sumer in all those firsts. If the Early Dynastic Period at Uruk begins in 2900BC, the First Dynasty begins when Narmer unified Upper and Lower Egypt around 3100BC. There’s evidence of communication and trade between the two. It seems that some advances must have spread from Egypt. The Egyptians claim to have started monotheism, for which they haven’t yet issued an apology.

[@Madmen604]

A lot of those firsts occurred simultaneously in other countries, like Mexico and Egypt, southern Africa and India, China.

[@davexorus9836]

Its sounds crazy, but little remnants of summerians lives in Georgia (country). They maintained their habits very well

[@kingjudah8006]

You do know that they were black people right? Sumeria is in the land of Canaan. White people are from the cold and ice. They would have needed rich dark melanin skin to survive in the hot sun. That’s why we are known as the people of the Sun

[@davexorus9836]

@Sarah Asaadi dont know maybe you are ethnicaly same but in lamguage total diference. I dont said whole georgia just little part of it

[@kingjudah8006]

Sarah Asaad Would you like for me to easily prove it to you. Arab not white people where not in that area until the Outtoman Turks in the 14th and 15th centuries. Prior till that they were African people.

[@kingjudah8006]

Sarah Asaad In ancient times it was, would you like some links to sources

[@juandirection8820]

We wuuuz kaaaangz and shiiiiieeet

[@Attlanttizz]

Never knew the "am-i-rights" came into existence back then...

[@Kretek35]

Göbeklitepe was build 12000 B.C before sumerians. Could it be that they came from the same tribes ?

[@TheEvolver311]

Or could it be that humans build things when stability allows it

[@Kretek35]

@@TheEvolver311 Some strange insights here about stability. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn-Yp5yhrdtqe9k

[@Hecatonicosachoron]

Unlikely, they're far removed temporally and geographically. Maybe in the very early past, but that's really just a truism. Forms of small societies, languages and cultures have existed for as long as humanity has existed. That might be tens or hundreds of years ago. We only have traces of the most recent ones. Add to that that all structures from wood or straw will not survive. It's pretty much inevitable that multiple cultures existed and declined with no surviving trace. All history is young compared to the lifetime of the species.

[@mehmetkurtkaya3106]

To some extent. Distant in the past

[@sevankessissian4308]

A tribe called Armenians

[@SloopADoopy]

They were so well off since they were sitting on top of all the sweet crude black stuff

[@sagebias2251]

I wonder how many early civilizations didn't write on clay tablets.

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Well if they didn’t write then I’d wager they are one less step closer to being classified as a civilization.

[@sagebias2251]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 I suspect that many wrote on things that decompose. How many palaces were made of wood? A great and powerful civilization may leave little traces if they do not have stone and clay in abundance.

[@gerardmorton8517]

Twist: this was just advertisement for his voice over business

[@bookworm1866]

I’d love to read further. Do you have any suggestions?

[@charlesschwaboverhere5582]

I'm interested in the possibility of the Sumerians learning many of their skills and cultural values from previous people whose culture was destroyed by environmental catastrophe. I recall hearing that some people might have come from modern day India with knowledge of agriculture and basic tech from the previous age. The great flood story possibly having a foot in reality because of Earths cyclical catastrophe cycles via the sun, asteroids, volcanoes etc.

[@realjaytruth]

Dwaraka is possibly 25000 years old and destroys the theory of Sumer being oldest. Since it goes against mainstream academia they stopped excavating it.

[@realjaytruth]

@Ario Sorry, make that 12000 years. So only 6000 more than Sumer.

[@dougraddi908]

@@realjaytruth 25,000 years old? Bwahahaha

[@andybeans5790]

I don't think we have to look for a cataclysmic origin for flood myths from a people who lived in a delta, there would have been exceptional floods every few generations and these would have been aggregated and aggrandised through oral tradition.

[@heritageresearchcenter8970]

I suppose by CE you mean Christian Era since its the one known to us for over a thousand years. But it is called AD (anno domini).

[@davidm8135]

He means "common era." I hate the new BCE/CE time division

[@harryedwards4080]

@@davidm8135 Me too, why should something as important as this planets timeline be not only influenced but actually divided because of a single religion that exists amongst the hundreds out there. By the year 2050 it is estimated that over 90% of the developed world will classify themselves as being non followers of any religion. I think by then we will develop a new way to represent time. For example resetting the year 0 in this era as to being approximately when modern Homo sapiens first appeared on Earth so right now could be the year 200,000. That's just one example. I'm sure people far more knowledgeable than I am on this subject could think up of other better ones to use.

[@Rhadamistus5]

Come on, this map is just VERY misleading and WRONG. Armenia did not come into existence until after Iranian & Scythian tribes conquered Urartu around 7th-6th centuries BC. Urartians have their own language recorded in cuneiform, which is not Indo-European. All ruling dynasties in Armenia were Iranian from the very beginning and it's recorded in the language after they migrate into the region around Nairi Sea, and then later occupied territories from other indigenous tribes up North towards Lake Sevan. This is well known. This is all to say, 3rd - 1st millennia BC on this map is way off in the top section.

[@delilahsorensen855]

Couldn't finish listening because my ears started hurting from hearing so many inexact concepts about this people. This is most often than not, the case of "official" versions of ancient peoples.

[@ZOGGYDOGGY]

The first class dominated political State.

[@bozo5632]

All these firsts are in part a product of the accident of clay tablets lasting forever.

[@blairnelson635]

I don’t believe that it was an accident these tablets lasted for so long. They knew how to make their documents last.

[@coloradochris3952]

I'd rather see you Sumer than later

[@19BenZ57]

from PERSIA ArmeniA Israel with Passion

[@koryos4401]

Some of these "firsts" are simply just the first attestations, rather than being genuinely the "first".

[@sevankessissian4308]

Koryos the true first is higher up in the river

[@geraldfriend256]

Hell yeah hilarious

[@Paleoman-fy4ue]

Curious, could it be possible the Sumerians had adopted the tales of the great flood etc. from earlier times into their own cultural teachings instead of assuming the they where the original writers? Currently new archeological evidence is pointing to events that caused devastating rise in ocean levels around 10,000 BCE. Many are pointing to this episode in our planets history as the epicenter of the stories of flooding in almost all civilizations around the globe including stories passed down verbally among native American tribes.

[@adavis5926]

Nearly all civilizations have begun along rivers with flood plains for obvious benefits of rich soil and fish. Hence, many, but not all of these civilizations have stories about floods. Those formed near volcanoes have apocalyptic stories about volcanoes. Go figure.

[@Paleoman-fy4ue]

@@adavis5926 the cataclysmic event I am referring to, they think raised the ocean levels by 400 feet in a very short time. You're right, I'm being foolish, the reshaping of the entire planets land masses don't fit the narrative.

[@avalonav3138]

You are rigth

[@maecooper696]

In Sumerian writing it says Giglemesh was warned by a divine being or more advanced being about the flood. This being told Giglemesh to write on stone to ensure the writings would survive the flood. Giglemesh and Noah were not the only ones through history that said they themselves were warned.

[@kontrabasso79]

How come we dont use Sumerian term for the area, or anyother, but the Greek, as "Mesopotamia" which means Meso=middle and potamos=river. The land between Tigris=Tiger and Eufratis = Ef (ευ) which means good and fratis =(φραζω) i close between two rivers this piece of land.

[@kontrabasso79]

@@franks450 Its not the same because we never read write or used Chinese...on the contrary we (i mean Westerns) use and write Greek ...even if they dont know it. More than the half of words we use are Greek. Anyway , its ok.

[@lowersaxon]

Wasn‘t Abraham vom Ur? I think there is a kernel of truth in this narrative in so called Old Testament. There are some (strong?) religious similarities.

[@mindmy609]

Abram aka Chaldean Abraham

[@MatVids2]

Sumerians in the comments section be like: first!

[@윤혜원-u6s]

학습 자알되었습니다ㅡ!!!

[@v.2080]

If posters here cannot be polite and respectful in their replies, then it is not worth anyone's time to reply to them. I have a right to my opinion, and so do you. Please remember that, and cease posting inflammatory responses. God does not fit in any one person's box. Thank you.

[@jesussaves1875]

You do know that Noah was still alive when Abraham was born right? And they lived close to one another i.e. Ur

[@badcampa2641]

The story is a rework from Indian classical literature like Surya Siddhanta

[@jesussaves1875]

@@badcampa2641 There are 8 main haplo groups (DNA) in the world... why? The ark contained 8 people

[@jesussaves1875]

@@badcampa2641 It is the other way around !!

[@badcampa2641]

@@jesussaves1875 NOPE the originals contain real astrological data which dates 14'000 BCE

[@jesussaves1875]

@@badcampa2641 If it were not possible to look that far back we would have no idea it was from 14000 BC... do you think for one minute they couldn't??? If we can they could (there is nothing new under the sun)

[@nibiruresearch]

It would be much better without these fake flames, lightning etc.

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

You hurt me deeply!

[@nibiruresearch]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 It was ment as an advice from an old ,ovie maker.

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

Ad Roest I’m still hurt! Lol, no you’re right. I’ve recently been experimenting with layers and trying to add more “graphics” but I’ve gotten a few complaints on the lightning effect. I have a few more coming that will unfortunately have it in there but I’m going to see if I can find an alternative. FYI, I’m all about taking tips and so feel free to scold and direct me to a better level!

[@nibiruresearch]

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Success. You only learn from the mistakes.

[@remydantes12]

if the Anunnaki created humans, who created the Anunnaki?

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

The firstnnaki

[@calonarang7378]

An and Ki The Cosmic Gods.

[@paishrokehder2335]

THE land of Shinar is located in north of Iraq were the Yazidis Kurds lives , Shingar sengar

[@treybasquiat]

“No one knows where they came from.” 🤔 People who’re intellectually honest knows where they came from. They migrated from the Nile Valley in Africa. That’s where they came from.✊🏾

[@calonarang7378]

No, there are no cultural or architectural similarities between them.

[@proverbalizer]

he said they invented time, lmao

[@ohsweatbret]

They did man, hammurabi clapped his hands and time began.

[@prof.dr.4224]

The original people of Assyria were not Semitic. Before 4000 BC, Southern Babylon was the original home of the Sumerians from India and Northern Babylon originally came from central Asia. The modern name Mesopotamia came from the original Madhya Vedi, according to the Historians History of the World (Vol 1 and 2, 1902). One of the most famous Kings of Babylon was Asur Bani Pal, a pure Sanskrit name. Both Hittite and Mitranis used to speak the Indo-European language. Their gods were Vedic gods. HR Hall, curator of the British Museum wrote (Hall, 1939), “The ethnic type of the Sumerians so strongly marked in their statues and relief was as different from those of the races which surround them as was their language from those of the Semites; they were decidedly Indian in type. The face type of the average Indian of today is no doubt much the same as that of his race ancestors thousands of years ago. And it is by no means improbable that the Sumerians were an Indian race. It was in the Indian home, perhaps the Indus valley; we suppose for them, that their culture developed. There their writings may have invented and progressed from purely pictorial to simplified and abbreviated from which afterward in Babylonia took on its peculiar cuneiform appearance owing to its being written with a square-ended stylus on soft-clay. There is little doubt that India must have been one of the earliest centers of human civilization and it seems natural to suppose that the strange un-Semitic people who came from the East to civilize the West were of Indian origin, especially when we see with our eyes how very Indian the Sumerians were in type”. There was a linguistic and ethnic resemblance between the Sumerians and the Dravidians, people from South India. Both Rig Veda and Mahabharata mentioned the Deva-Asura war, which lasted 32 years in which Devas, the Aryans of North India, driven other tribes. In both Harappa and Babylon, an unknown script was discovered, demonstrating a close connection between the Indus valley and Babylon. Woolley in Ur found a similar seal with a very early cuneiform inscription (Woolley, 1929). Indus culture is older than Sumerian and Egyptian culture (Hall, 1939, 1928). References: Hall, H. R., 1939, A Season’s Work at Ur, Al-Ubaid, Abu Shahrain (Eridu) and Elsewhere: Being An Unofficial Account of the British Museum Archaeological Mission to Babylonia, London: Methuen Hall, H.R., 1928, The Discoveries at Ur and seniority of Sumerian Civilization, Antiquity, 2, 5, pp 56- 98; Williams, H.S., 1902, Historians History of the World, Edinburgh: Morrison & Gibbs Woolley, C., 1929, Ur of the Chaldees, London: Ernest Benn ( This is quoted from our forthcoming book, Ethics, Morality and Business, to be published by Palgrave-Macmillan.

[@treybanks1068]

The Hittites of the Bible were not Europeans

[@josephanglada4785]

In a sense, Bible was right about Babylon and inspired archeologists to search there, even if the stories were not original. I don't think the bible claims those stories to be original, as Noah was not a Jew, for example. The story of Noah is the story of all nations. But very interesting! Thanks for this.

[@mindmy609]

Yeah it was established later the pre flood is still from Adams race but I believe he spoke ancient Hebrew lost after first one hundred years

[@chopperque736]

Reading thru recent posts, let me tell you all one thing. If you don't have something nice to say, DON'T say it.

[@sajad_alsalhee5314]

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