The Apathy Stage Of Michigan State Basketball | The Valenti Show with Rico

[@noah.conley]

I’m mostly fed up with Tom’s defiance of the portal center and not playing Booker or Carr!!!

[@Brothahoskins]

He's getting old, cranky, and becoming a jackass.

[@stevencook4002]

He has to balance winning games with developing players. Cohen Carr dominated in HS because of his tremendous athletic skills, but he’s not a very good basketball player imo. Booker is a good enough player but so physically weak. They’ll be fine but if they’d have played too much more MSU might have a couple of more losses.

[@noah.conley]

@@stevencook4002 Booker looked physical against Wisconsin!!! I’m sick of bone head mistakes by Cooper and Mady. I hate how some msu fans love Cooper, the guy was highly touted walk on to any other power 6 school. It gets to point where we need to develop Booker and Carr for next season

[@abcdefg5459]

Booker is terrible at defense

[@keithzastrow]

I've been posting on social media for 3-4 years now that Izzo needs to be done and I always get laughed at and btw I'm an MSU alum.

[@AirplayneEar]

I absolutely agree his time has passed

[@CoD3x4life]

I’m not an alum and I think he should of left after his last run

[@SocialAssasin]

they made the elite 8 last season and everyone returned right? Wild that MSU, OSU, scUM could all be looking for a new coach this summer.

[@marvinkey7440]

I'm an MSU alum also and I agree.

[@stevekov6740]

Who are some of the replacement candidates that you have in mind?

[@Brothahoskins]

Mike it's gonna have to be you, to rally up your alumnist troops to get Izzo out of East Lansing. Because I been tired of him. I'm just a Lansing native that works at the university. I been asking Michigan State to fire him Of course they won't take someone like me seriously that works in a cafeteria

[@stevencook4002]

They sure won’t and shouldn’t. Why do people just assume Izzo’s replacement will be any better?

[@Brothahoskins]

@@stevencook4002 Because he can't coach anymore. His results over the last 15 years proved it. The program isn't getting any better. He's sitting out 5* blue chippers for bums that would only play for Mac schools

[@Brothahoskins]

@@stevencook4002 you crazy if you're telling me you rather sit here, and watch this program go down the drain if Izzo stays

[@WoodyJ98]

@@stevencook4002Oates would kick ass in EL

[@ericstoppels9527]

@@stevencook4002dude what? It’s MSU basketball. There will be a lot of big time coaches who want to come here

[@lesbolstad]

I'm fed up with him being such a disingenuous whiny douche to the officials. It's such a bad look for a coach with his resume

[@theprogressivemichigander6588]

Hilarious timing on this segment given the Illinois win. But I do agree that something needs to change. The portal needs to be used. This team could have been good with a center.

[@abcdefg5459]

MSU fans don't know how good they have it. Your expectations are a championship, why? Because of him. Most teams consider themselves to have a successful season if they make the tournament or get 20 wins, and Izzo does it every year. He is giving MSU above average seasons every single year, but you don't appreciate it because he doesn't give them championship seasons.

[@Brothahoskins]

I rather not be in the tournament if I'm gonna get bounced out the first weekend,or make the final four to get stomped out

[@joebanish7517]

I’m a Spartan alum who watched damn near every game on TV from middle school on, and was a loyal Izzone member. It’s not just since Cassius left in ‘20. Tom hasn’t been able to win the big games for over a decade. His game plan in that loss to Syracuse in 2018 was inexcusable. Putting a lottery pick in Jaren on the bench in favor of Ben Carter? Same thing in 2016 against Middle Tennessee with Deyonta. We win the best game of Izzo’s coaching career by beating Zion and Duke, then go lay an egg against Texas Tech, with only Virginia-a team we’d owned in the tourney-standing in the way of a natty. Oh how about the loss to UCONN in the elite 8 in ‘14? I idolized this man as a kid, but he’s stuck in 2005 coaching wise, and refuses to adapt.

[@abcdefg5459]

It's a lot easier to criticize those decisions at home without knowing why he went with it in the first place. For one, maybe Jackson didn't play much because of him getting a foul every 5 minutes and going 0-4 on shooting and having a turnover?

[@stevenherrmann1619]

This entire segment is about college basketball and then Rico asks Mike if he's referring to Michigan football at 6:02 🤦 We're still living rent free in his head 🤣

[@ckc-li1kh]

It’s his go to when he’s sad about something. Talking about MSU in a bad way, better bring up Michigan real quick to make myself feel better! 😂

[@casualwater698]

Mike could have been talking about the basketball or football team with that comment. The reality is this show lives rent free in Michigan fans' heads based on the comments on every video.

[@stevesalski4520]

Finally! Thank you as I’ve been telling my friends for 3-4 years now about this. They say he’s a Hall of Famer and been to 8 Final Fours. That’s the last. . I was done this year after the first couple of games. Ranked 4 and they have underdelivered. I’m so tired of hearing his excuses in his press conferences such as we as the coaches need to do better, it’s on us, pick on us not the players, playing on the road is hard in this conference, etc. If I had made all the excuses he has like not doing my job or having to do better in my job as a teacher, I would have been fired. He makes about $7 million and players make NIL money now. The expectation is high and losing what should be winnable games is not. No excuses and just do. Not the same since the last Final Four. You have to know when to retire. I did. He’s a great guy but just not meeting expectations.

[@abcdefg5459]

MSU fans don't know how good they have it. Your expectations are a championship, why? Because of him. Most teams consider themselves to have a successful season if they make the tournament or get 20 wins, and Izzo does it every year. He is giving MSU above average seasons every single year, but you don't appreciate it because he doesn't give them championship seasons.

[@stevesalski4520]

My expectation is not a championship. If you are told you have a top 5 team, and you aren’t performing at that level, then stop making excuses. Look at Izzo several years ago. In his press conferences he would be brutal with his players and how crappy they played. Now, he makes excuses for them. He even says him and his coaching staff don’t do enough for getting the team ready when there’s a loss. When you make that much money, those aren’t valid excuses. I’m sorry but above average is not acceptable when you are one of the highest paid coaches in the NCAA. Why does Bill Self produce excellence year after year?

[@kentmilbrandt3989]

The problem is NIL players think they are worth more than they really are. Everyone is trying to be the star of the team.

[@sandyfike841]

Tom Izzo has been the BEST thing to happen to MSU in my lifetime! IMO Izzo can coach for as long as he wants to and I will support him. Period! On the other hand I have watched...somewhere around 2-3 games in the past 2-3 years...because I just cannot stand to watch the utter incompetence.. I sucks the life out of me to watch each debacle.

[@Yahtzee_09]

How can you support him, but then only watch 2-3 games and be fed up with the product? Those things are not mutually exclusive. You either support Izzo and watch the games or you want someone different. They have been mediocre since 2020 and nothing has changed with the program since 2000.

[@sandyfike841]

I support Tom's Izzo to be the coach of Michigan State Basketball as long as he wants to. He has earned that support from me by being the Best thing to ever happen to MSU sports...and probably the best thing that ever happened to MSU in general. No matter how bad the team plays. Even some of these shaky teams have continued going to the NCAA Tourney. More than you can say for 99% of the schools in the NCAA.@@Yahtzee_09

[@jackharrington697]

Izzo is the Dabo Swinney of College basketball and I am not a state fan!

[@abcdefg5459]

MSU fans don't know how good they have it. Your expectations are a championship, why? Because of him. Most teams consider themselves to have a successful season if they make the tournament or get 20 wins, and Izzo does it every year. He is giving MSU above average seasons every single year, but you don't appreciate it because he doesn't give them championship seasons. Same goes with Swinney, he has good seasons, just close losses

[@ericstoppels9527]

Just like Dantonio. He’s not adapting on the offensive side. Refusing to adapt year after year with the same results. It’s insanity. Additionally, the assistants is the same thing as Dantonio. Bad assistants who don’t add anything to the program.

[@andrewscott7067]

Izzo is so washed

[@stevencook4002]

And fans are so spoiled.

[@keithzastrow]

​@stevencook4002 Nope he's right. I've been posting on social media for nearly 4 years about this shit and Izzo. With each month since then I have only been proved right....and btw I'm an alum.

[@andrewscott7067]

@@keithzastrow It hurts man, and it can be perfectly summed up by what Valenti used to say about Dantonio. “Just because you built something, that doesn’t give you the right to tear it down” and that’s exactly what Izzo has done to our program

[@todddraper]

Izzo's motivational technique of yelling and getting on a player has run its course. There's only so much you can squeeze out of screaming at someone until you have to actually teach basketball. Otherwise you hit a ceiling. Except for Draymond and a couple others, what MSU players have become standouts in the NBA over a couple of decades? He doesn't seem capable of molding players skills beyond just crushing for rebounds. That worked great before the transfer portal and staying all four years, but now it's more about collecting a team of standouts. I hate the transfer portal, too, but it's here to stay. You have to use it.

[@ajm865]

I can't wait to hear this station when Izzo somehow finds a way into the final four again. "There's not a shred of talent on this roster" hey Mike you like to take a lot of days off maybe watch Tyson Walker a little more you've got the time. You probably were fed up all year in 2014 before they made a final four run with mf'ing Gavin Schilling and Tum Tum in the starting lineup.

[@partyonsparty1875]

I haven't even watched em anymore. I just wait till March. Team the past few years had been same shi different year.

[@noah.conley]

I wish I didn’t watch every game, I just can’t tune out like that! I was in the student section for 4 years and graduated last year. I traveled to Chicago to see us live against duke

[@SR-hf3hx]

He needs to go. It's unfortunate, no one is gonna respond to his tactics anymore. Times have changed

[@Joe-ps4tc]

Aside from the portal Tom’s biggest problem is creating lineups and managing PT. Maybe the latter falls on the assistants but he’s the HC at the end of the day. This is D1 Big Ten basketball at a historically formidable NCAA team. Therefore no shits should be given in regards to seniority, put your best players on the court… period.

[@Joe-ps4tc]

Sissoko has had one game (believe it was at Duke) that he was actually good. Unfortunately, he hasn’t developed any skills and still looks like Bambi out there. He should be nothing more than an energy bench guy who gives you 5-10 minutes of balls to the wall play a night.

[@Joe-ps4tc]

Hall… what happened to him? This guy was an all around player a couple years back, honestly he might have been better as a freshman with the 19-20 Cassius & Tillman squad than he’s been this season. He looks slower, can’t shoot the 3 anymore… but idk I guess you gotta roll with him because there aren’t many other options

[@Joe-ps4tc]

Hoggard… I had high hopes for AJ this season after the March run last year and his offseason. For whatever reason he just seems to lack aggressiveness at times when he can easily bully almost any 1/2 guarding him. Honestly, I think the biggest problem is the lack of floor spacing due to Hall & Sissoko/Cooper

[@Joe-ps4tc]

ROS lineup should be Hoggard 25-30 Walker 35+ Akins 35+ Hall 25-30 Booker 20-25 Holloman 15-20 Carr 15-20 Cooper 5-10 Kohler 5-10 Sissoko 5-10

[@vet137]

Enough of Tom he can retire and go play polka

[@AirplayneEar]

Izzo gotta go

[@Kurt-ci1dk]

What...2 sparties not obsessing with big bro and taking Izzo's name in vain. Hmm...

[@pameverett1990]

I disagree 100%. I’ll never understand all this bashing. Are you a great coach? Izzo is outstanding and his teams are winning and have lost to good teams. STOP All the trash talk on Izzo

[@thomasmoffitt3511]

How many U of M coaches have 700 w ins. More bashing from Michigan