The Apter Chat LIVE from Starrcast with Belt Maker Dave Millican!

[@markoutwithmark]

That Big Gold is like the holy grail for me as a belt collector.

[@kieran8584]

@John Branco Conrad doesnt own it a private collector does.

[@freakzilla1198]

@@kieran8584 Conrad IS the private collector that owns it. He has for a long time along with other ring used belts.

[@MTLMedia]

Conrad Thompson is the private collector, he has brought it out on occasions.

[@1981CrueHead]

Holy crap it's the original Crumrine

[@naitch1761]

Yes!!! Wooooooo

[@Tc-ev9dd]

This guy has some crazy ass craftsmanship. Definitely got a great talent!

[@mikecarr8052]

10 years and I’m still waiting for my belt!!!!!!

[@bigkiwi1320]

😯😲

[@JOHNN01.82]

Did you get it ?

[@Rjensen2]

​@@JOHNN01.82No, scumbag Millican lives off of WWE royalties for them using Reggie's designs.

[@BentleyvilleEntertainment]

Same with my father, but he actually got his this year. So, there's hope out there!

[@SrDeMaFp]

Wish the video wasn’t so short!

[@SoSaysShernoff]

SrDeMaFp subscribe to the new So Says Shernoff KZbin page. There will be another more in-depth interview soon!

[@RickRomo]

that big gold is priceless.

[@shahrinridor]

I love the big gold belt.the most iconic belt

[@bluemajiic1979]

Are those belts for the people waiting 10 years?

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

No. All ring used belt.

[@Rjensen2]

No, the thieving scumbag doesn't make those anymore. But word on the street is he's selling some of his collection because he needs money.

[@stevenrohauer1830]

All the cast copies of the big gold have the bend at the top they were cast from the original

[@johnnymorningstar2855]

If that's the real Big Gold, it will be absolutely priceless. Even the casted copies are iconic but the ORIGINAL? Hard to believe anyone let Hogan actually spay paint that masterpiece

[@CozyHumanoid]

Me too. I don't believe that the original big gold was the one spray painted by hogan

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

@@CozyHumanoid i dont believe the the belt hogan painted was the real 1986 crumrine either its also worth noting that hogan has a big gold belt in his memorabilia shop that is said to be the one he painted on national tv

[@GuiOmania]

Its the real belt and yes its 1000% this belt that Hogan paint nWo on it !!! The one Hogan have is one of the copie that he get at Bash and the beach 2000 he spray paint on is own belt recently i dont know why lol

[@thecarolinabull01]

Believe what you want, it was the original belt that Hogan spray painted.

[@Marc_Masters]

Absolutely golden! This was awesome.

[@jordcarter2359]

The most amazing belt in pro history, the big gold just sat there chilling! Lol Amazing video, with a pirates worth of treasure!

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

I'm happy that Big Gold is in good hands, I thought it was lost.

[@naitch1761]

Conrad Thompson is the owner and Dave scam so many people

[@naitch1761]

@CR Wrestling it's the original one. Conrad Thompson is the owner of the big gold belt and he is married to Megan Ric flair Daughter

[@Rjensen2]

It's in good hands, but that definitely wouldn't be Millican. 😂

[@green5soldier4ever67]

The old AWA world tag team title belts wow what a gem!!!

[@arturomcneil5919]

I love that TNA legends championship belt that Booker T debuted in 2008

[@strokeraceventura2550]

That 91-94 belt is so under appreciated

[@jayandrade2785]

Omg,I want that big gold so bad!

[@naitch1761]

Impossible.

[@julianjones9177]

I have one

[@oscarrobledo547]

I have a replica big gold it's nice but I will definitely get the crumrine version eventually

[@murfdog19]

I was a HUGE wrestling fan as a kid, but I haven't watched in years. I'm still fascinated with championship belts though. Especially the WWF, NWA/WCW belts from the 80s and 90s. I'm going to end up buying one soon. I can feel it coming!

[@chrischin_94]

If you haven't yet, look up the Fandu Luxe. A little pricey compared to the regular big gold, but from what I've seen/heard, best bang for your buck :)

[@hypnotic101]

Wow so cool he made that WCW belt back when Simmons,Vader, and Luger had it. Its actually in my top 5 of favorite Championship belts.

[@naitch1761]

No reggie Parks made the wcw logo belt. Dave is the owner now the caretaker of the belt but he didn't make it

[@hypnotic101]

@@naitch1761 ohhhh ok my bad lol. thanks for the info.

[@adamlongstring8967]

Soooo Millican is the keeper of the original Big Gold???? or was he allowed by the current owner to bring it to All In?????

[@naitch1761]

No the owner of the original crumrine big gold belt is Conrad Thompson the boyfriend of Megan fliehr Ric flair daughter. mobile.twitter.com/thebiggoldbelt

[@jayandrade2785]

Good question, because it was rumored that Scott Steiner had it????

[@naitch1761]

@@jayandrade2785 read my comment on top

[@adamlongstring8967]

wonder if someone would ever have the Gall to attempt a heist on it lol 😂

[@naitch1761]

@Satchel McQueen Video mr. Conrad Thompson was there he was organizing the conference

[@jim1631]

Legend has it Scott Steiner had the big gold and swapped it for a replica, I wonder if that is where Millican acquired it.

[@vincentlapointe4273]

Scott Steiner sold the belt to Conrad Thompson

[@charlieward5476]

I’m glad he has time for this video being lots of people are and have been waiting over 5 years for belts that have been fully paid for that’s how to run a business oh and no mention of Reggie Parks

[@vincentlapointe4273]

In March it will be my five years that I order my big gold belt

[@charlieward5476]

Exactly and then people look down on you because we buy bootleg belts

[@bertgardner6570]

Yeah this guy is a real piece of work. I can't believe people are expected to pay IN FULL for something they won't get for 7yrs. I can understand a deposit, but the full amount? What if he dies? I doubt he has your money just sitting in an escrow account; I'm sure it's been long spent. What about if his business goes under and he has to file bankruptcy? What happens to your money?

[@coldenburg7016]

I love belts!

[@green5soldier4ever67]

I don't own any belts but if I were to start collecting I would definitely collect old school belts ONLY..the belts if today suck...IWGP the exception

[@Rjensen2]

He's more or less JMar these days, they both have absolutely no ethics whatsoever, both are well known in the belt community for being total ripoff artists. Millican is actually above JMar now for the biggest scumbag in the wrestling belt collector world. For Dave, it all went to his head. He used to be a dream to deal with, now he just takes your money and doesn't even try to make them.

[@xkm-thebasetecchannel3823]

The Big Gold with the bent seems to be really the original. But there are still rumors about who has the original belt. Some say Scott Steiner exchanged his copy with the original, but as it is shown here, this story seems to be a legend.

[@naitch1761]

The owner is Conrad Thompson.

[@Rjensen2]

Lmao, wtf are you talking about? Do YOU know what you are talking about?

[@charlieward5476]

I’m up to 7 years waiting for my belt and now he doesn’t return my emails

[@onjohns1]

He stopped returning mine a year ago. I’ve been waiting over 9 years.

[@JR-mn7ds]

Same to me. Waiting for my WWF Winged Eagle Belt 9 years. He take my money and after years I still have nothing!!

[@xaviervelez1990]

Where i can buy one of thoose

[@green5soldier4ever67]

I always like the non gold belts like the southern belt and southern tag team belts the old Mid-Atlantic television belt the old world class American belt the Florida belt

[@chrisman2500]

Does Dave own the big gold or who does it belong to?

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

No the owner of the big gold belt is Conrad Thompson.

[@NightWarriorAlive]

Really? I thought the owner was some private collector who didn't want their name revealed. When did Conrad say that the belt was his?

[@misterfaiz9678]

He put a picture of it up on Instagram and has admitted to owning it

[@wisdom1604]

@@NightWarriorAlive everybody knows now Conrad Thompson is the owner of the big gold belt.

[@KidTrappBeats]

The Crumrine goes crazy 💯🔥

[@nashkevincash]

Hi what size briefcase does the Big Gold fit in?

[@mikepetullo2083]

great! maybe now you can sell some of those beauties and fulfill our orders.. yay!.. probably not

[@green5soldier4ever67]

Where can I attend one of these events I would love to see some of the classit belts from the past and if I know where and when I would DEFINITELY be there..can anyone help???

[@vincentlapointe4273]

Brothers of the belts on Facebook

[@GuiOmania]

Its a starrcast the original big gold is there every years !!!

[@charleshamill2057]

Big Gold was always my favourite

[@nealtouchet5028]

Dave Has the big gold belt always wondered who had it

[@naitch1761]

No Conrad Thompson is the owner

[@Crimson_Logic]

He blocked me on twitter for criticism of that WCW heavyweight belt.

[@mary9472]

Maybe he should fulfill his back orders instead of going to conventions.

[@cameronsmith9909]

He didn't make the TNA X division, that was Wildcat.

[@nashkevincash]

Hmmm what size briefcase did he use to carry the BIG GOLD,?

[@lrobertsjr1982]

Have you seen the prices on the website. 1500 to 2500 good gawd. If I were to out the bread up I'd do it wouldnt you?? We grew up watching these legends rock these belts and man oh man I'd rock it too.

[@iParaShane]

Lawrence Roberts Jr yeah and you’d be waiting 8+ YEARS for it to be sent out and you don’t have a guarantee that it will be made/sent

[@lrobertsjr1982]

@@iParaShane I can attest to that as well. Thanks for your response

[@junioralsept9335]

I want one of the NWA big gold belt that Ric Flair debut on Georgia Heavyweight Championship Wrestling.. I want it with solid gold with the rubies and diamonds in it.. That belt today would probably cost around 1 million to make with real materials.

[@Rjensen2]

Lmao, you think it was solid gold? 😂

[@brandonhoward8319]

I hope he's willing to selling that orginal BIG GOLD WCW world heavyweight championship, but I doubt it

[@naitch1761]

No

[@naitch1761]

The original big gold belt is owned by a private collector named Conrad Thompson. And believe me if he is selling the big gold belt you will never have the money to get it and the WWF will bet a lot of money on it

[@brandonhoward8319]

@@naitch1761 bet

[@naitch1761]

@@brandonhoward8319 oh I bet if you have more money than Vince McMahon brother come on get real

[@anthonysalemi373]

@@naitch1761 Conrad from Something to Wrestle? If so...damn!

[@kasandrapurplekitten]

they gotta do a All IN 2 this is a fans dream

[@stevenstatham2864]

I would like to see him make the bcw heavyweight title on community creations

[@Bandana_Boi]

I’m an absolute mark for wrestling championship belts. Dave was trained by Reg Parks, wasn’t he? Great to see him carrying on the legacy but man being at that gimmick table is a spooge dream for a guy like me

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

Yes trained by Reggie parks

[@michaelroszell8156]

Big gold is legendary

[@24Marleythedog24]

Slightly off the subject I have a question to anyone who can answer. I have a wwe replica 2013 world heavyweight championship belt( red snakeskin back)and my nameplate needs to be colour matched to the belt. Does anyone know what colour it is or if I can buy the paint off the shelf. I’m really struggling

[@vincentlapointe4273]

Testor paint brother

[@cameronkauhega2962]

And he help make the ufc and bellator belts

[@Marc_Masters]

So Millican bought the belt off of steiner?

[@vincentlapointe4273]

No Steiner sold the belt to Conrad Thompson

[@rundmc12]

I thought I heard ric flair say on his podcast that he sold this belt to WWE, and the Vegas gold was gifted to Triple H. So which belt is this ?

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

Dome globe wwe have from ric

[@Rjensen2]

Flair is lying.

[@Rjensen2]

​@@savoirautosuffisant6551 Ric absolutely did not sell it to WWE. He used it as collateral for two different loans, and was looking at prison time for fraud. WWE bailed him out again by paying his creditors back.

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

@@Rjensen2 dude wwe have the dome globe

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

@@Rjensen2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGS4aYKVrrKApMUfeature=shared One more for you 🤷‍♂️

[@d0narroyo]

I thought Scott Steiner kept that belt when he swapped it with a copy when he was champion

[@thecarolinabull01]

He did, but at some point he must've sold it to Conrad Thompson, since Conrad is confirmed to own the original.

[@d0narroyo]

@@thecarolinabull01 then what belt is this in the video?

[@thecarolinabull01]

​@@d0narroyoThe original one that Conrad owns. He does allow it to be displayed at conventions every now and then.

[@Rockchisler]

How much does the ric flair 86 belt weigh??

[@vincentlapointe4273]

8.78 pounds with the strap.

[@domamania]

I would pay 500 thousand dollars in cash right now to purchase the big gold wcw belt...

[@Rjensen2]

Well, a guy who probably makes that in a week owns it now so good luck. 😂

[@thecarolinabull01]

I wouldn't want the responsibility of owning the original. I just hope the one day Conrad allows the belt to be cast (the cast molds used by AFX to make the WCW casts no longer exist)/scanned so that exact copies can be produced rather than replicas and bootlegs that range from "not even close" to "close, but not quite".

[@greenlantern2813]

See Fandu belts make your replicas that size and you'll get more business.

[@ThaMaskRapper]

that's cool sell them online

[@detroitdrummer8724]

Will the NWA Championship be up for auction?

[@naitch1761]

The big gold? I don't think so not for now and if it's for sale I think WWE will be the first one to put money on it. The owner of the big gold belt is Conrad Thompson.

[@naitch1761]

mobile.twitter.com/thebiggoldbelt

[@kingroninitus8183]

How can I purchase one

[@naitch1761]

www.davemillicanbelts.com/index2.htm But the time wait is excessively long. I'm waiting for my big gold belt five years this month

[@watchreport]

naitch 17 Did you get it yet?

[@wisdom1604]

@@watchreport no

[@skoaldipper125]

So let me get this straight, Dave Millican still has people waiting for belt orders for almost 10 years now, tells his customers that he needs more time and money to finish their orders but yet has has time to do conventions and buy ring used belts?

[@MrTermo]

this was a year ago

[@skoaldipper125]

SRT 14 that doesn’t make it any better. Point is people are still waiting on belts while he’s making new belts for promotions and spending money on ring used belts while his customers are almost 10 years waiting for a single belt

[@MrTermo]

@@skoaldipper125u are right guess hes a bitch

[@bigkiwi1320]

He doesn't have that Chrome line big gold anymore

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

Crumrine! The owner is Conrad Thompson.

[@MissterX]

So who owns the Big Gold, Millican? Does Conrad Thompson? Who?

[@wisdom1604]

Yes Conrad is the owner of the big gold

[@callamastia]

dangit bobbeh

[@MidnightPodcast]

👌❤️

[@zakkfps910]

There’s over a million dollars worth of belts on those tables

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

Never buy a belt from this guy you will never receive your product! He is rolling on his reputation but he's not delivering!

[@alexp7596]

Millican and Rico are the worst. NEVER give these guys business...They'll take your money and NEVER deliver your belt.

[@jeberegala233]

dang. that’s crap :/

[@vincentlapointe4273]

I'm in that select club of people who paid their belt entirely and never received their products

[@djchino774]

Seriously you're gonna say that Cody debuted that exact title? Even though the network logo wouldn't come until a couple of years later. 🤔

[@ytoverntflx]

He got the white strapback and with his whole face mask gimmick made sure that the belt be the damn belt to look for. That's what he meant by debuted

[@shaunwilliams4231]

who didn't like this video!!

[@pellajoe]

I thought Scott Steiner had the big gold.....

[@naitch1761]

No more Conrad Thompson is the owner now

[@pellajoe]

@@naitch1761 how much did he pay for it?

[@naitch1761]

@@pellajoe no clue

[@shaneobrien7801]

JOE WATSON 6 figures

[@beau_rizzler69]

If he gives me this championship The Championship I want:The Wwe 2010 whc, it’s red,and it’s called the Interversal championship

[@DavidMiller-do9gg]

Scott Steiner sold you the belt!

[@naitch1761]

No to Conrad Thompson

[@imranbecks]

The video didn't even cover the entire table of the belts! Booooooooooo

[@SoSaysShernoff]

Imran Becks subscribe to the new So Says Shernoff KZbin page. There will be a more in-depth interview soon!!

[@dustinparker9456]

The big gold should either be giving to ric flair or be renamed the ric flair championship belt.

[@wisdom1604]

Rick doesn't give a s*** about the prop

[@thecarolinabull01]

His son-in-law owns it, so close enough.

[@ttjbiggunner2025]

Ric Flair claimed that the the original big gold is owned by WWE now he sold it to them and has been trying to get it back but they won't sell it back to him so maybe after this video came out you got it and then he sold it to them I don't know but I hope this guy has it and not the corporation but if that's the case where sold on my fake belt

[@Rjensen2]

Flair is lying, he never owned the BG, Scott Steiner sold it to Conrad Thompson and that is the belt Dave "Thief" Millican is holding.

[@don.machin]

In my opinion its better than classic shields replica

[@vincentlapointe4273]

Of course

[@edwardelric880]

As a proud owner of one of those I can honestly say "replica" describes almost perfectly how close it is to the original nowadays. I'd say it's about 95% identical at this point. Nothing will ever beat the original of course but CS's version definitely looks the part, so much so that it's almost ridiculous.

[@vincentlapointe4273]

@@edwardelric880 you have a original Reggie parks and Dave Millican and HD classic Shield at home? Can you do a video to show that there is no difference. thank you

[@edwardelric880]

@@vincentlapointe4273 There's only one original Crumrine Big Gold, which is what Classic Shields' version is based off of. How would I be able to do a comparison video?

[@vincentlapointe4273]

@@edwardelric880 brother I am waiting for the cast version of David Millican second one made cast from a private collector named Teddy made by crumrine. You never specify that you were talking about the big gold belt in your previous message. Charles crumrine the maker of the original big gold belt 1986 that cost $13.000 I know everything I need to know about the big gold belt. classic shield makes more than just the big gold and it never will be like the original looks like it but far from it it's nice but I rather have a the second version of a real crumrine. but let's see if we put the winged Eagle of David Millican and Reggie Parks beside the winged eagle of classic Shield even the HD version you will see a big difference. blessing of a good day

[@WTFweretheythinking1]

"So who made the Spinner Belt for Cena?" - Dave walks away...

[@gpostallive5818]

Ron Simmons still has his WCW WORLD TITLE BELT.

[@wisdom1604]

No

[@wisdom1604]

There is only one WCW heavyweight championship and is the one that you see on this video mr. Ron Simmons as a replica probably from Pakistan

[@Rjensen2]

Lmao, no he doesn't. He just says that, and people are dumb enough to believe him.

[@CaptainPetes]

Parks made the ic belt. Dave did not.

[@MrNWA4Life]

Reggie made the ones in the 80's and 90's. The ones on the white straps have all been made by Dave.

[@d0narroyo]

I thought Scott Steiner kept that belt when he swapped it with a copy when he was champion

[@savoirautosuffisant6551]

Scott sold the belt to Conrad Thompson.

[@d0narroyo]

@@savoirautosuffisant6551 I read he was so strapped for cash that he sold it to him for less than what it’s worth. That belt is $$$$$ but it’s great the belt now belongs to the Flair family now

[@Rjensen2]

​@@d0narroyo Where did you read that?

[@d0narroyo]

@@Rjensen2 Conrad Thompson said it on his podcast, it’s also been confirmed that it’s the original belt

[@d0narroyo]

@@Rjensen2 Google it