The Archived System of Kalis Ilustrisimo - Romeo Macapagal Interview Part 2 Mini Documentary

00:40 The influences on Tatangs Art
02:47 Different Pedagogies
03:43 Norman Suanico
05:16 Pedro Reyes
06:12 Roberto Morales
07:29 Henry Espera
09:14 Break in Pedagogy and Techniques
12:20 "Gaps in competency for students of the Archived System"
12:37 Doble Carera & Darag Footwork
14:51 What is missing in the sparring of students of the Archived System?
17:08 Precise targeted attacks vs. Striking Patterns
17:56 Advice for future students of the Archived System
19:09 How can a classical system be authentic?
23:00 Evolving a classical system
23:55 Focus during sword combat
26:27 A proven system of swordsmanship
27:15 Ilustrisimo is a dead system
28:28 The challenges of teaching a classical lineage
29:53 How do you feel about evolving the Archived System?
31:10 "Tasks for caretakers of the Archived Systems"
Part Two of an all-day interview about Filipino Martial Culture and Philippine Swordsmanship with Romeo "Romy" Macapagal: one of the students of the last living sword fighters of the Philippines. This one was done as a mini-documentary.
Macapagal is author of "Kalis Ilustrisimo: The Archived System of Antonio "Tatang" Ilustrisimo". Copies in the Philippines can be ordered from / theparashopmanila
Contact The Parashop Manila directly to order a copy.
For the USA, the book can be ordered from - www.bunalbrand.com
I culled the available footage online but also stuff that was part of videos given to Mang Romy aka Romeo Macapagal years back. I've looked and found versions on youtube and shared the links below.
There will be some controversy because of the thoughts and opinions presented. I hope that viewers can watch this through the lens of seeing how Kalis Ilustrisimo is practiced today vs. how Antonio Ilustrisimo shared his art. This is not to say that current and future methods have no value - the video is shared to shine a light on what is different and what has changed. The value of new or old practices will always be on the individual teachers and students.
If you love the music, please check out the original video, like and subscribe. It is a traditional Cebuano song, "Rosas Pandan" (performed by Richmond Piguerra & Adrian Sarinas) • Rosas Pandan Duet (per...
Part One of this interview can be watched here: • The "Last" Filipino Sw...
Here are links to some of the included videos on KZbin:
Antonio Tatang Ilustrisimo - Kali Arnis Eskrima - 80’s archive - • Antonio Tatang Ilustri...
Kalis Ilustrisimo uniform movements.. • Kalis Ilustrisimo unif...
Antonio Ilustrisimo and Antonio Diego | Ilustrisimo Escrima • Video
ESTD2 Blade Edgar Sulite & Tony Diego • ESTD2 Blade
MandarigmaOrg • Grandmaster Antonio Il...
Ilustrisimo Style, Ricketts, Sulite • Ilustrisimo Style, Ric...
Kali Ilustrisimo Level #3 clips • Kali Ilustrisimo Level...
One of the most important youtube channels for old KI footage / @ericfitzgerald7041

[@wesleyzane]

we need more of these lectures because the book and the floro videos are full of information but the details in life and death pressure sparring and how the movements can be used furthermore need to be explored, we need a video lecture on the book it self to be used as s documentary so while he is reading the book there are pictures of tatangs, life, geography and areas and locations where he lived played battled while Mon romy is narating this i would gladly pay big money for this. A real professional production.

[@GuroGani]

Thanks a lot brother for bringing up and including Mang Henry Espera side here. Pugay!

[@egjundis]

His time with Tatang, and his skill deserved to be known and recognized.

[@iggyspirit]

I am not an escrim practitioner, bu whatever this man says is true and correct. Plus the same exact issues exist in other systems.

[@thehunter6915]

Wow I realized so many things about my own Eskrima just by hearing the Eskrima of Mang Romy. I appreciate your wisdom about sword combat Mang Romy.

[@bladesociety]

I have never met maestro romy but this interview reveals how good-hearted he is. He has good things to say about everybody. Thank you for sharing this video brother. Watching it felt like I got to be part of a closed-door intimate history lesson within KI.

[@egjundis]

I'm sure some wish that it was kept closed-door. The different students of Tatang had different ideas and thoughts. Hopefully, this interview will have more folks look at Tatang and his art through a bigger and deeper lens. One that will create a pull for more of the Topher archive to become available but also a deeper respect for the different perspectives of the different first-generation students of the old man and the lineages they have or will leave behind.

[@luburan1973]

@@egjundis I don't think it is closed to anyone, maybe closed by idiots. water seeks its own level. There are no secrets

[@GreenbergDO]

Amazing job editing archival footage with the interview!

[@fullcontactgeek]

Thank you so much for this interview and making it available.

[@luburan1973]

In the 90s I would see them and get curious, but I was always working so many bills to pay. I still walk by their playground

[@nativeclan]

Bravo. Truly enjoyed this and the archive footage was great. Much of which I had not seen before.

[@egjundis]

@Hyle? :)

[@krisstom6812]

this is the reason why i like kalis illustrissimo. so formal n direct n will nt take any chance in bringing dwn an opponent. the art is much more in offense rather tyan defense.

[@culturetoronto]

this is pretty amazing... there's lots of great techniques peppered throughout the video as well. Thanks!

[@killickoffroadarts]

Fantastic interview, thanks for posting. Having just watched it I am off to train. Lot's to ponder later.

[@egjundis]

Keyboard time is fun. But TRAINING is where it is at!

[@killickoffroadarts]

@@egjundis Yes agree with that.

[@daxlwilliams]

18:10- "Get into a real fight" There is really no way to duplicate the internal situation as it pertains to training until you end up in a fight where there is no referee to protect your interest. Its amazing how far from martial, martial arts can be. Of course there's is so much more to combative effectiveness than just this, but this is definitely a keystone principal

[@essene3695]

May I ask, which drill is he referring to that is an imitation of the DeFondo Drill by Leo Giron?

[@samuraisteve2775]

Incredible Interview.⚔️🛡️🗡️🤺🥋🫶🏻☝🏻🦾🙏🏻

[@shogunshogun]

21:10-21:41 - If they know their life will be in dangerous situation, then their training and absorption is faster and more accurate. It's ALWAYS the COST. What is the cost, if I don't do it properly?

[@fullcontactgeek]

Will there be a part 3?

[@egjundis]

We'll see. I need to focus on work editing. There is enough footage. But I'll have to see if it's content that makes for compelling content. But at least for now more of his stories are preserved for future generations.

[@SteveSmith-fi4cq]

Amazing interview! Does he still teach? Where? How does someone get in touch with him?

[@egjundis]

Try Facebook - but he’s not taking on any new students at the moment.

[@nicholascotardo3795]

what about italian fencing influence in the phipilipines?

[@egjundis]

They exist in names, “estoke italiano” which exists in some older methods. Sometimes there are stories of those being learned in the 19th century or earlier. Mang Romy also postulates that some of the florete (point forward and stabbing) methods of Ilustrisimo could have entered into Tatang’s family method when the small sword became popular with caudrilleros and other Indio militia and troops. This use of small swords is documented in a few 19th century illustrations, prints, and paintings.

[@hevyjameshulleza461]

How to avail of the book if it is sold out?

[@egjundis]

They have hade another run made and are currently available.