The Arena | Challenge Islam | Defend your Beliefs - Episode 82

[@RosewiththornsRWT]

Asalamalaikum 🇺🇸 Sharif is a true asset to the Arena, as are all the brothers. Subhan'Allah.

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Introduction 04:41 - Br. Mustafa joins 08:03 - Br. El Logos (Revert) joins 10:54 - *Sweet (Christian) joins* 59:07 - *Marshall (Christian) joins* 1:32:32 - *Roy (Christian) joins* 2:14:02 - *Annunaki (Christian) joins* 2:29:52 - *Alexander (Christian) joins* 2:30:56 - *Desi (Christian) joins* 3:00:06 - *Jay (Christian) joins* 4:16:01 - *Mowgli/Tyron (Christian) joins* 4:17:02 - *Avatar (Christian) joins* 4:18:52 - *Valhalla joins* 4:37:04 - Sweet joins again 4:46:23 - Tyron joins again

[@passerby1011]

JazakAllah for this

[@slimanipdr]

May Allah bless you brother

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

​@@slimanipdrMy argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@mzaiful]

The internet was the worst thing that could have possibly happened to Christian. 😬😬😬

[@clownshoe69]

as an ex Christian, even im baffled by how deluded these guests are an their nonsense claims and way of thinking when it comes to GOD ALMIGHTY. I think they complicate it for themselves. As soon as your split God into parts / human form / God form / creation over creator....Its a sinking ship.

[@animeche9232]

5:49:07 I reverted to Islam after coming to the realization that Christianity was false. It can be debatable that there was a short period of agnosticism after denying Christianity and the church but , regardless, Mowglii is too codependent on his master(s). He will accept Allah SWT as his only God when/if he chooses to set aside his false Gods 🍝

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@Gurutruthspeak]

​@@TerryBlack-d9eYour entire religion and its doctrines is a later invention! Your central man-god figure is inspired by greco-roman mythology!

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@Gurutruthspeak not true your forgetting josephus

[@Gurutruthspeak]

@TerryBlack-d9e Who gives a 💩? Your entire belief system is riddled with faults. Not a single aspect is demonstrably proven historically or even theologically.

[@EzziiG]

It's refreshing to see new gladiators on the stream, I was really impressed with Mustafa, his knowledge on the Bible is incredible and he triggered the hell out of the Christians, it was either they were too dumb to understand or too arrogant to learn

[@homtanks7259]

💯🤝🏻

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

​@@homtanks7259My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@EzziiG check out josephus which Mustafa lied and said josephus says Jesus wasn't crucified while quoting from Barnabas which contradicts all faiths. Josephus says Jesus was crucified and hamza in shop live today just admitted that. Hamza in shop live said they believe so therfore the Quran is correct he makes assumptions when he used the word believe saying they believe he waa crucified. Believe can mean I believe he was crucified because of the astounding evidence why does it have your narrative.

[@Just_logic]

Mustafa is an encyclopedia. Mashallah

[@ZiIIous]

This was one of the most educational arenas for me. Mustafa and Logos were professional, never heard of them before, and Hamza was very patient with the guests, improved so much as a moderator. JazakumAllah khair.

[@ZiIIous]

ahhhh I take it back, 5:45:00 Hamza, "disproving Christianity proves Islam" they already went through that with all the talk about the "seal" and Hebrew/Aramaic words in the bible and alignment with the teachings of the prophets.

[@adamsufi1338]

Mashallah 7 hours!!! Love when the arena is this long 🎉

[@JosefTheMuslim]

MashaAllah, brother Sharif, our gem!

[@kadsaidi1665]

She told him to shush kebab 😂😂😂

[@user-zj5kj4tc8e]

Fawad just popped that Bubble about Moses. 😂

[@slimanipdr]

That was epic😊

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@user-zj5kj4tc8e stevemcroy2020 my response to you would be why wouldn't you believe their is a 1st century jhon laying around. Isa said in the Quran there is a prophet to come after me and his name is Ahmad. Jesus is quoting from jhon. Jesus was in the 1st century which why your scholars quote from jhon saying Muhammad is prophesied there.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@Gurutruthspeak]

​@@TerryBlack-d9e Your god/religious narrative doesn't stand on anything other than your delusional fantasies.

[@zaquanbhfssa]

​@@TerryBlack-d9ejesus is quoting from jhon? Not the other way around? And there is no jhon laying around in 1st century. You projecting all you can do.

[@homtanks7259]

One point of criticism: for many guests the microphone was louder than that of the gladiators, which was annoying

[@YesnomanChillin]

Bro you're all over the place with the support you give. You love Jake yet you still love Daniel too?? Jake hates Daniel for the sake of Allah, and he will not return to Hamzas Den again.

[@leonidasanaxandridas6163]

Talking to a Christian is like talking to the wall.

[@dadush4]

*insert forced awkward laugh*

[@NafezAlAtassi]

Oy, don't disrespect the wall like that.

[@user-zj5kj4tc8e]

Bubbles got the the right name. Pop the bubble it's full of air. 😅

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@user-zj5kj4tc8e stevemcroy2020 my response to you would be why wouldn't you believe their is a 1st century jhon laying around. Isa said in the Quran there is a prophet to come after me and his name is Ahmad. Jesus is quoting from jhon. Jesus was in the 1st century which why your scholars quote from jhon saying Muhammad is prophesied there.

[@Gurutruthspeak]

​@@TerryBlack-d9e The judeo-christian deity failed to preserve his words in their original form... ...Your religious identity is built exclusively on this failure... Your god, religion, and everything in between, is therefore dismissed.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@user-zj5kj4tc8e check out josephus which Mustafa lied and said josephus says Jesus wasn't crucified while quoting from Barnabas which contradicts all faiths. Josephus says Jesus was crucified and hamza in shop live today just admitted that. Hamza in shop live said they believe so therfore the Quran is correct he makes assumptions when he used the word believe saying they believe he waa crucified. Believe can mean I believe he was crucified because of the astounding evidence why does it have your narrative.

[@Just_logic]

I think bubble missed the basic logic class

[@fadwajansenmoufti5112]

Thank you Team glad you gave people time to respond and entertained their questions no matter how rudiculous ALHAMDULILLAAH 🤲🤲🤲😊😊😊

[@baran1455]

I like when you make the conclusion of Arena with Sharif. The convo is great with Sharif covering all the issues in dawah sphere. And please Hamza abi,reduce the time for Arena it is too late for eastern time. Cant complete full stream when live.

[@WelcomeToTheRezvolution]

Watch it later like i do

[@Naushad1210]

The first guest is a doozy. What makes him think that we have to provide early manuscripts of a flawed, corrupted text to prove anything? I don't know why you spent so much time humoring this child. Should have started him off with why do you think the Bible is a reliable source of information? Guy is too dense to even follow an analogous example. When Fawad made it clear to him that his question was meaningless, he got butt hurt and just started saying "man" a lot, and LEFT 😂😂😂 Pure comedy.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@Naushad1210]

The point you fail to understand is that discussing any existing Christian texts, early or late, is just a way of humoring you to meet you on your level. We don't need to produce any manuscripts from the Christian writers who wrote at any point after the time of Jesus, peace be upon him. These texts are meaningless to us. Even the Bible is covered in numeric and factual errors and simple contradictions. Why would a manuscript from a random first century scribe be trusted any more than this? We have the word of God direct and purely preserved. If you want to disprove the Islamic narrative of the "crucifixion" you will have to refute the preservation of the Quran and the prophethood of Muhammad (pbuh). Demanding unconfirmed, unreliable manuscripts from some random scribes is not going to help you anyway.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@Naushad1210 yet you're quoting from currupted text to disprove tell me how that makes since. The reason the first century text should be accepted is because it was preserved bit got currupted over time which is means there waa a preserved text laying around out there at one point. But is now destroyed

[@Naushad1210]

​@@TerryBlack-d9ebecause your own textual tradition challenges your understanding of the "crucifixion." These texts should be proof for YOU even if WE don't accept them in full. There were early Christian groups that believed Jesus, peace be upon him, was not crucified. If the church threw some of these writings out because they went against their predetermined theological assumptions, that doesn't necessarily mean these writings are forgeries. We quote the Bible and other early Christian texts because they may still contain some glimpse of the truth, even if other parts of them are invalid. The Quran is the criterion that tells us what interpretations of these writings we can accept, and which parts need to be corrected. Again, you would have to disprove Islam in full, in order to retain your position.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

evidence is not the evidence of absence' means that just because an investigation does not yield evidence for a certain claim, it does not mean that the claim is actually false. This is because evidence may later be uncovered by another investigation that was missed by the first one.​@@Naushad1210

[@19Zee]

Christianity is like harry potter paradigm.

[@NAW_WRK]

7 hours 😳 hamza ain't playing

[@spectorv]

"im not gonna punch above your weight" what a line

[@xeeebon]

1st guest wants to kill Jesus anyhow 😮

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@AdrianMuslim]

​@@TerryBlack-d9e God can forgive without human sacrifice. Stop endorsing pagan human sacrifice.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@AdrianMuslim how does this argument prove isla

[@AdrianMuslim]

@@TerryBlack-d9e It proves that using logic and rationale, Christianity has got it wrong and Islam got it right on this matter at least.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@AdrianMuslim your boy hamza got burnt in shop live and Sunday chill want time stamp

[@ZiIIous]

3:31:41 should have shown him the NIV version, it says "Does he think he is God?" instead of "this fellow is blaspheming", which then Jesus refers to it as "evil thoughts".

[@ALzzanam]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@syad911]

2:30:56 this is prime example why u never assume politeness and soft words guaranteed someone to be sincere and honest, listen to the whole thing, he pointing fingers on something he never read/learn, wolf in sheep clothing individual.

[@mcegypt20]

“When was John the Baptist forgiving sins?” “……. Why do you think he was called John the Baptist?” 🤣🤣🤣 this kid needs a lot of work

[@I.M.CROW.]

Christians and athiests should go back to school and gain some common sense and logic. As well as re learn maths.

[@milesprowr]

Isn't man body, soul and spirit? Are you just your body? No. Are you just your soul? No. Are you just your spirit? No. Are they the same thing? No, but the _three_ form a person together, and they _reflect_ the Trinity, and they can be in the same place together, or in different places (like when a person dies). Genesis 1: 26 'Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness,...'

[@stevemcroy2020]

​@@milesprowrSoul and spirit are the exact same thing

[@intheoceanofknowledge]

​@@milesprowrNo. Because my Body is not 100% me, but it is what makes me human in this world. So reflects on your Trinity, 3 of them is 100%, but One. It was different and didn't suit your logic, because those 3 on trinity are not three parts but each are 100% existence. 100% x 3= 300%, 3 Gods?! Except the Father, everyone else absent from the knowledge of the Hour, was it become (the Father) 150% + 75% + 75% now? Body & Soul = Human, which is me, one, I'm the only existence that type this reply to you, no one else.

[@milesprowr]

@@stevemcroy2020 not in the bible at least which came first, just as feelings and thoughts aren't the same, nor sensations which are in the body.

[@milesprowr]

@@intheoceanofknowledge Jesus manifested Himself in the flesh, the Holy Spirit well the title says it, and the Father commanded Jesus just as the soul commands the body. You are 3 parts in one as well and it reflects the same dynamic/interaction, which does reflect what Genesis and the bible said, sensations, thoughts and feelings, they are not the same. Ruach and Nepesh aren't the same. Even if the Trinity were 100% "existence" each, it's still reflected in the trinitarian man, whether you like it or not.

[@muhammadjahangir9181]

I completely get it now he paster is Sam!!!! Mowgli paster is Sam!!!!

[@sased_7]

جزاك الله خيراا

[@Ahmad-Mounir44]

To be honest, this Jay lad took more time than he deserved

[@kenny0907]

These conversations are making my brain boil!!

[@fadwajansenmoufti5112]

Jay Jay Jay 😂😂😂 shukran for insisting Muatapha did a great job. Alhamdulillaah TRUTH is clear from Falsehood...Well done Hamza with that clincher forgiving sins 😂😂😂

[@homtanks7259]

new Gladiators Ma'sha'Allah, Great stream 👌🏻 JazakAllah'u khairan

[@pweetypoo]

What kind of argumentative person is this? 26:51 What would you call his style of arguing? Demanding? Controlling? Illogical? Narcissistic? He would fail the Mental Status Exam.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

the christian is a brainless ignoramous what do you expect. these people should never have opinions about anything because they can not put 2 and 2 together and understand what anyone is talking about. they are dangerously stupid to the point they need to be locked up. I would rather have liars roaming around than purposeful ignorant arrogant weirdos.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@rabiashah3191]

No intelligence at all in their argument. Like for all.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@pweetypoo you lost go watch shop live so you understand my point

[@saiful6600]

4:27:00 It is reported on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Messenger of Allah said: None of you is a believer until I am dearer to him than his child, his father, and the whole of mankind. (Sahih Muslim, The book of faith, Chapter 16) It is narrated on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) observed: "None amongst you believes (truly) until he loves for his brother" - or he said "for his neighbour" - "that which he loves for himself." (Sahih Muslim, the book of faith, chapter 17)

[@isahibrahim7414]

The discussion with the sweet guy was pointless, every point made just flew over his head, he doesn't know anything and worse, he doesn't want to know

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@WelcomeToTheRezvolution]

Exactly. The bubbles guy was dense and had many things fly over his head.

[@isahibrahim7414]

@TerryBlack-d9e no one said there's any "version" of the crucifixion, Qur'an only said he wasn't killed or crucified, any version you find of substitution or was put on the cross but didn't die in the end are people speculating, which is exactly what the Qur'an says, It says any one saying anything about the crucifixion is saying it on hearsay, and there are first century confirmation that there were Christians at that time who didn't believe Jesus was killed, you are creating a position for Islam and attacking it when that's not what the Qur'an says

[@swarthyjoe]

Justice and Humanity have the right to defend themselves.

[@sabaarshad72]

Surprisingly Hamza was so calm this stream!

[@mdizzle7034]

Jays Dawah was powerful. Hamza should have let the guy be instead of jumping in and then even criticising the mans approach at the end. Sometimes his ego is just too much. Hamzas way isn't always the right way, time he understood this. You don't ALWAYS have to destroy what they have, just show them the inconsistencies but how it may still contain truth. Such as the verse of the seal of the prophets. These people already have an emotional connection with the bible and scripture, so use it sometimes instead of thinking to destroy it every time like the harsh approach is always the correct approach.

[@IndoFahmi]

Ukht Deejah is 🔥

[@strictlypineapple9308]

the sweet christian guy is prime example of why you should not let the so called biblical holy spirit take away ur braincells. cause you end up not making sense and just laughing as an argument.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@strictlypineapple9308 stevemcroy2020 my response to you would be why wouldn't you believe their is a 1st century jhon laying around. Isa said in the Quran there is a prophet to come after me and his name is Ahmad. Jesus is quoting from jhon. Jesus was in the 1st century which why your scholars quote from jhon saying Muhammad is prophesied there.

[@faheemahmed5786]

​@@TerryBlack-d9e What is the proof of crucifixion? 🤔

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@TerryBlack-d9egenius if you don’t have text to go back to Moses then why do the Muslims need 1st century text to go back to the crucification? What is ur point exactly? Why do you want 1st century documents about the crucification?

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@TerryBlack-d9eMuslims don’t believe everything in the Bible is false, however it has to be in line with what the Quran says. It doesn’t matter if some people argue Muhammad is in the Bible or not though it doesn’t matter. Ur ganna have to explain to me why we need first century texts while you don’t

[@randyfeafeaga6745]

Watching the replay. Got my popcorn 🍿 mate 😅

[@rizekrizek6918]

Pop goes the bubble. LMAO

[@saiful6600]

3:00:20 In the Bible, there are a few instances in which people other than Jesus display knowledge or insight into the thoughts, intentions, or minds of others. These moments often occur under the influence of the Holy Spirit or through prophetic insight. Here are some key examples: 1. **The Prophet Elisha and Gehazi** - In 2 Kings 5:20-27, Elisha, the prophet, knows that his servant Gehazi has lied to him about accepting gifts from Naaman, even though Gehazi tried to hide it. Elisha asks, "Did not my spirit go with you?" suggesting a supernatural awareness of Gehazi's actions and intentions. 2. **King Solomon’s Wisdom** - In 1 Kings 3:16-28, Solomon demonstrates insight into the minds of two women claiming to be the mother of the same child. His proposal to divide the child in two reveals the true mother based on her reaction. While Solomon may not have directly read their minds, he shows deep discernment of their motives and feelings. 3. **Daniel and Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream** - In Daniel 2, Daniel is able to tell King Nebuchadnezzar the content of his dream and its interpretation without the king telling him what it was. This is a special revelation given to Daniel by God, demonstrating divine knowledge beyond ordinary human understanding. 4. **Peter and Ananias and Sapphira** - In Acts 5:1-11, Peter knows that Ananias and Sapphira have lied about the sale of their property, even though they did not explicitly tell him. Peter questions Ananias, asking why he has lied to the Holy Spirit, indicating knowledge of their deception through divine revelation. 5. **Paul’s Insight into Elymas the Sorcerer** - In Acts 13:8-10, Paul confronts Elymas the sorcerer and rebukes him, perceiving Elymas’s intentions to turn people away from the faith. Paul’s rebuke suggests insight into Elymas’s deceitful motivations, likely through the Holy Spirit’s influence. 6. **The Disciples with Spiritual Discernment** - While there aren’t specific instances of individual mind-reading, passages like 1 Corinthians 12:10 discuss the gift of “distinguishing between spirits,” which enables some disciples to perceive the inner motives or spiritual states of others. These examples show instances where individuals exhibit knowledge of others’ thoughts or intentions, but they often attribute this insight to divine guidance, prophetic ability, or the Holy Spirit, not to human ability alone.

[@sayyidelahie9714]

Mustafa lookin like Eazy E with a beard😂

[@ft7397]

2:21:50 he may be gifted 3 Qurans. i doubt he opened even 1.

[@aafuuu]

J logos' heart is in the right place @05:50:00 but I think what Hamza tried to explain (without getting to that part) without having firm foundations for believing in islam theres no basis to. Just as easily as own could say "Xanity is false therefore islam" vice versa could be done. Hence why if you give a solid foundation for islam first, others can't find those newly reverted and confused them again back into apostasy

[@IsaacLani-z2d]

You can make a connection to Islam from Christianity because it stems from abrahamic faith well the claims do... So you would look into those religions. You see only 1 of those 3 claims preservation as a whole. So it would usually guide you to Islam.

[@rachidboughabi8199]

Hamza is checking the VAR for Red card 😂

[@suapkulambai261]

Jay testimony is convoluted...😊

[@Brwce]

Mustafa is the best ! all these brainless pagan christians coming over the stream and talking bad on mustafa proves he's destroying them. keep your head up Mustafa and don't let their insults get to you.

[@amermahmood7635]

Hamza’s question to J. Logos at the end of the discussion is a bit unfair. The perspective of Hamza is that the Bible and Christianity is completely wrong. J. Logos’s angle is that Bible just needs to be read carefully and when done so it points to and resembles Islam.

[@dukedizzy]

Roy sounds like mater from cars

[@amadoudiallo7525]

4:15:10 I can't handle these muslims anymore 😂😂😂

[@australiaprisonisland9156]

Bubbles is a prime candidate of a Christian incapable of thinking. A fixed opinion has to have conclusive evidence. Bubbles has 'conclusive' evidence in his own mind but isn't capable of elaborating his fixed opinion.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@australiaprisonisland9156 stevemcroy2020 my response to you would be why wouldn't you believe their is a 1st century jhon laying around. Isa said in the Quran there is a prophet to come after me and his name is Ahmad. Jesus is quoting from jhon. Jesus was in the 1st century which why your scholars quote from jhon saying Muhammad is prophesied there.

[@australiaprisonisland9156]

@@TerryBlack-d9e According to Bart Ehrman. Is the Bible a reliable source of information? The answer is pretty academic.

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

@@australiaprisonisland9156 bart erhman believe

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

​@@australiaprisonisland9156yes he believes Jesus was crucified and the bible is his primary source

[@ajustman7535]

❤❤❤

[@newwaytrader]

sharif even Gandhi was tortured, beaten and offered to drop is national views but he didn't

[@ridhuan2335]

christians have different definitions for words like forgiveness, Only, immortal, dying...

[@jmitt91]

That guy Jay was painful to listen to

[@homtanks7259]

R u a revert?

[@jmitt91]

@homtanks7259 correct

[@jmitt91]

@homtanks7259 best decision i ever made. Islam is logic

[@homtanks7259]

@@jmitt91 Alhamdulillah 🤝🏻

[@Jumpers-and-jabs]

Unfortunately, i agree with you

[@zoezoom110]

Annunaki should eat some sushi and nuri maki to get some common sense

[@homtanks7259]

😂

[@Mirror_Holder]

See from @59:00 if you want some laughs 😂

[@hanifhabib1843]

Jay … go learn from ChatGPT … ChatGPT has better understanding than humans … a what shame 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@abdulqayyum-ct4to]

"INCONSISTENCIES/ CONTRADICTIONS WITHIN "RESURRECTION" MATTHEW 28 # 2 person only, Mary Magdalene & other Mary # There an earthquake # There are soldier Infront of tomb # 1 angel only # The angel roll back the rock & sat on it # They met Jesus on way back to Galilee LUKE 24 # Many woman, Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them (verse 10) # No earthquake # No soldier front of tomb # 2 angel # the rock already rolled & they met the 2 angel inside tomb # They didn't met Jesus on way back to Galilee # They told Eleven and to all the others MARK 16 # 3 people Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome # No earthquake # No soldier front of tomb # 1 angel # The rock already rolled & they met 1 angel inside # They didn't met Jesus on way back to Galilee # The women doesn't tell anyone because they afraid # [The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have verses 9-20.] JOHN 20 # 1 person only, Lady Magdalene # No earthquake # No soldier front of tomb # The stone already rolled & no angel inside # She didn't met Jesus on way back to Galilee # 2 angel appear after diciple went back home, in other gospel the angel appear when the woman first time in tomb

[@mia-mx2xd]

7 hours woot

[@filehazir5176]

Dang ... till 4hr marks, only idiots and anger Christians showed up

[@thejourney6369]

What sort of symbol did el logos have ??? Egyptian dietey or am I wrong ?

[@ismahastiness]

this marshal really doing great job to show how absurd christian is😆

[@ft7397]

2:24:50 does the NT have creation story

[@yunuspatel780]

Hamza is so rude, asking the gladiators to shush, what's the point of bringing them on if they can't interject, Hamza should learn some manners

[@australiaprisonisland9156]

Desi Brzi 1 + 1 = ? Change the subject. Any man who is incapable of thinking should be left to his own wilderness. Don't waste your time with such people. Desi........ giggling won't help you.

[@rizekrizek6918]

This old Christian is 77 years old and it does not matter how much facts you show him from his own book because he's been indoctrinated and he is lost may Allah strike him with the truth in mind and heart

[@justdenisecurtains]

Globe Lie

[@samfromuk796]

Do you let hadith rejectors on the stream or do mostly like Christians and atheists on ss they're easier to deal with.?

[@lazari2571]

It’s only for non Muslims and not for misguided Muslims . You can go stand in line with the Shia and Qadiani in other streams and you guys already been smashed before no need for it again 🥱

[@homtanks7259]

lol

[@Wasabi-g3t]

Hadith rejectors are disbelievers and Hamza lets them on. Only people Hamza doesn't debate are Shias.

[@RayOfHope8]

❤️❤️🍉🍉🤲🤲🌹🌹

[@pweetypoo]

44:20 if God doesn't speak, how was the universe created (based on the Judeo-Christians)?

[@mzaiful]

Ignorant heresy dishonest lying trolling twisting word......!?! 😬😬😬

[@Mohammad-p1d9m]

Can anyone explain why does Hamza drag those brothers to his show if he’s the one who does most of the talking?

[@TerryBlack-d9e]

My argument stands as sweet bubbles. Infact, Mustafa mentioned the book of Barnabas which is a later invention and it contradicts Islam by calling Muhammad the Messiah. It contradicts all three religions and should be rejected yet he uses the book of of Barnabas to fit his own narrative. Two he mentioned josephus but bart erhman says that everything that Josephus mentions about the crucifixion shouldn't be thrown out. He Says Josephus actually says Jesus was crucified. Hamza has no fist century text to confirm his version of the crucifixion. The contradiction argument doesn't disprove that he wasn't crucifixion which is why I didn't answer. So they mentioned Moses while making assumptions about whether Moses existed. Isa quotes from jhon yet hamza says the bible doesn't matter. There must a first century laying. He said he didn't want put Hebrews on the screen.

[@BeHumbleAndLessArrogant]

You had your chance to go up there pal. There will be another day to make your case in the arena, try that instead of randomly posting in the comment section.​@@TerryBlack-d9e

[@dadush4]

Hamza, an ad every 3min... what did you do??

[@rizekrizek6918]

Shareef is being too nice, the guy is not understanding anything you're saying stop being real nice because he obviously does not care

[@darkshark9137]

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