The Armorer Is Hiding Something From Bo-Katan

[@GenerationTech]

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[@pyeitme508]

MEH

[@Stickanimatess]

Cool

[@occam7382]

Excellent video. I really like this theory, and although I have my doubts as to whether or not this will actually happen next episode, it certainly makes a lot of sense. Anyways, have a good day, and I'll see you next time.

[@KensanOni]

I think the Armorer is earnest and realizing she’s getting old. She needs to resolve setting up a home before she passes. She knows this. If she can play advisor and act as a power behind the throne, she’ll be satisfied. She isn’t the character I would be worried about. I’m surprised the Merc faction hadn’t already betrayed the group yet.

[@Celestial_Reach]

Yeah. Everyone is susing her. That means she's gotta be legit. Its the others

[@jeremym4451]

​@Old School Daffy Duck so anyone can be a Mandalorian

[@mandoad1841]

@@Celestial_Reach ot shes a red hearing, but i'm looking at Axe Woves or Koska Reeves.

[@madgamer7890]

​@@jeremym4451 yes as long as they prove themselves and take the creed

[@LumiRockets]

@@jeremym4451 Even Mandalore The First wasn't ethnic Mandalorian, he was an offworlder. Mandalorians have always recruited from any willing to be part of The Way.

[@m1k3droid]

I have thought that the horns on the Armorers helmet was an homage to Akaavi Spar, who wrote the poem that outlines the Resol'nare, the Way of the Mandalore. Akaavi was a female zabrak mandalorian with small horns.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Wish that was true. But that's asking a lot from people who probably know nothing about anything outside the OT and Sequel Trilogy or the most famous (or in the case of Dark Empire, infamous) of EU material.

[@montgomerym5407]

They’re called Easter Eggs for a reason. Not everyone is going to find them.

[@wkadams88]

I think there's a simpler, more disappointing explanation. When I saw the episode, I thought it was pretty odd that all of the important characters were getting on the shuttle to go to the surface. Seemed like the author's hand conveniently setting up a tragic destruction of the fledgling Mando fleet, but without killing the named characters. In this light, the Armorer serves as our viewpoint of the coming devastation. Watching as everyone she cared for dies (again!) cements the message she's been getting all season: she can't afford to be pushing away people who might help her rebuild Mandalore if she can learn to tolerate them. I just don't see her being a double agent. Thus far, they've only really used her character as an avatar for the old ways, and occasionally a brutal melee combatant. Turning her into an Imperial collaborator just doesn't taste right.

[@highbrassrule]

I don’t Know If it was the framing or cinematography but there was far too much tension about her returning the to fleet. Something has to be going on and I think the destruction of the fleet is a high likelihood

[@Vistico93]

@@highbrassrule I thought for sure as soon as she cleared the cloudtops, we'd see the Mandalorian fleet under an attack headed by full-on Star Destroyers. I was honestly shocked that all seemed calm above

[@johnguylw]

Yeah I thought it was pretty obvious the fleet was going to get attacked and the armorer was the character we'd see the destruction from. Just the way everything was playing out it definitely seems like once the ship theyre on, breaks the clouds there's gonna be hell breaking loose up in space.

[@eat_pray_porg8450]

Out of a lot of the theories surrounding the Armorer, I agree with yours. She might be kind of an old-fashioned/traditional Mandalorian, but I just don't see her being an Imperial collaborator. No offense to Alan or anyone else, I just think there are a lot of mental gymnastics going on just to arrive at the conclusion that the Armorer is hiding something or just being an Imperial collaborator. I would defer to the simplest answer here as well. I think back to the days when Episode I came out in the theaters. Those of us who already saw the Original Trilogy at that point, had already known that Palpatine was a Sith and that he had started out as a politician. But sure enough, there were still people trying to scrutinize those scenes where Darth Maul was speaking to Darth Sidious. The name Sidious had not been mentioned yet, but here, Darth Maul's Sith master was a humanoid male that wore a black robe with a hood that obscured his face. The same description that matched that of Emperor Palpatine, who was Darth Vader's master, later on in the timeline for the Original Trilogy. George Lucas had to literally tell SW fans who kept belaboring these wild theories about clones of the Emperor, that (and I'm paraphrasing) Darth Maul is talking with the leader of the Dark Side/Sith and that there is no one else. It's worth it to mention that, with some notable stories scattered throughout the franchise, that Star Wars has never been seriously "deep" with it's explanation of how this galaxy's stories have come about (with exception to "Andor", in my opinion). They are fairly simple tales of good and evil. If I am wrong about everything and the Armorer is the biggest Imperial collaborator, then so be it. But for now, I will go for the simplest explanation.

[@Darkmetamorphosis1]

How then did moff sweet lips 💋 know thar Bo had the dark Saber? It can only be one of 3 people, armorer, that dude bo fought, or the smug Koska

[@CruelandCold]

Fun fact Allen, any meat that is heated to an internal core temp of 165 degrees is safe to eat.

[@TherealSwagJack]

Incredible

[@frankielooch]

Nice-a-rooni

[@jamariojackson4289]

*laughs in cannibal*

[@alittlewasted3869]

Except brain meat prions don't die till like 1000 degrees

[@abelvalle6188]

​@@alittlewasted3869 kuru-kuru laugh

[@davidrobinson1946]

There are certainly trends that are suspicious. But, I'm hoping/thinking that it is the writers pulling us into the dissonance between the mandolorian factions. We're meant to point fingers and say they're going to betray this group or that. I'm holding out for the an epic AND positive twist or turn.

[@jeremygrant6145]

So, important misconception- the deathwatch didn't add horns to their helmets. Gar Saxon added horns to his helmet, then he had his beskar armor reforged into imperial armor. I think that is when deathwatch died and whoever formed the children of the watch, most likely, literally from the children of deathwatch members. Hence, Paz Viszla

[@TheMelancholicWriter]

Actually all of the Maul Mandos added horns mate. Not just Saxon

[@jeremygrant6145]

@@TheMelancholicWriter when and where? Did you not watch season 7 of clone wars? They all took red and black color schemes, but that was the only way they even matched. Rook Cast only had a black hand print on her helmet, the weird wing things were already there. And in the son of dathomir comic it was the same only saxon had them. Maybe a couple background nameless few had a horn or 2, but only saxon had the full display and they were welded on blades.

[@treiwilson9445]

​@@jeremygrant6145 you would have to get the comic book(s) that explain what happened to Maul after his duel with Sidious on Mandalore.

[@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan]

@@jeremygrant6145there were several other wearing horns in both the clone wars season seven and even more so in the son of dathomir comics. One distinction is that only the men put horns on their helmets, because the famales of Maul’s specific Zabrak species had no horns.

[@jeremygrant6145]

@@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan actually a lot of the spider clan woman had horns, but they had 1 or 2 randomly placed on there heads and literally the only mauldalorian shown in this video was Gar. If there are more, then why no footage of them. i literally only get gar when googled why am i the only 1 who cant see them?

[@jjstarrprod]

Interesting theories, and a lot of them could make sense, but there are 2 reasons that kinda counter all of them : 1/ As you mentioned, she's not only the shaman/religious leader of the whole Children of the Watch group, but she's also the one who foges all of these mandalorians their armors, which is usually custom tailored to each individual (sure, one could argue lots of these mandalorians armors are hodgepodge parts they scavenged on various imperial or droids parts, but their chestplates usually bears the Iron Heart). So I don't quite see her being able to forge with her soul and sweat for all these years pieces of armors to people that she would betray in the bat of an eye. As an artist myself, I share a deep bond with each of my creation, so I don't think she'd be able to just create soulless replacement parts for all her covert members. Bonus side point : I don't think she's devious enough to have sent her most loyal follower Paz to his death (especially if our suspicions are right about the fact that Paz must have had his kid with someone...) 2/ this is more of a practical concern : I really don't think either Favreau or Filoni have it in them to write a Gandalf-like character right from season 1... to reveal 4 years later "it was Saroumane all along" ! They're not devious enough to do that. If anything, the survivors were the traitors and they are going to be the Trojan horse... before being tenderized real quick by the armorer. Also, with her wanting to see the great forge, I predict more something like : Either Bo Katan or Din or Grogu (or Boba Fett, for hecks sake) will likely tame the Mythosaur and ride it, resurfacing from the base (destroying it on its way up), and the Armorer, after having dispatched the traitors and help win the space battle, will be there on the surface of the planet to witness it, triggering her in a mystical enlightenment moment where she'll have a divine vision of the coming new age of Mandalore. Take good care of you mate ! Your videos are always a blast to watch and it'd be a shame to see you miss the finale tomorrow because of a stomach ache.

[@sonofthebearking3335]

I certainly hope so, that would rock. She strikes me as one who puts 'doctrine before culture', which I love, because an ignorant, judgemental culture is now strong in my own religion: where people should study for themselves but tend to just grow up in it and take it's existence for granted. We need more people like the Armorer who not only can quote scripture at the drop of a hat, but will also defend the faith- most often from itself, ironically; we are NOT supposed to judge, for one, but it happens a lot if you aren't 'one of us' in that culture, almost like some kind of requirement or virtue... completely counterproductive. having grown up in the church but sought my own testimony because of my personal issues: I am stronger for it, but it's hard for what I see there in that behavior of my own members to not disgust me. Somehow I gotta be an example, and even with the companionship/Gift of the Holy Ghost, frankly it's hard. If the Armorer is truly committed to defending her faith as an example of it, I wonder if 'how' is a question she asks herself at night, or how many times she reads the Words she so often seems to quote as her solution. I'd be pretty sad if she betrayed the other characters somehow. Her treatment of Bo is kinda suspicious.

[@mausball]

Gideon and the troopers wear Beskar alloy, not pure Beskar like Din has. An important point.

[@hendrikgreiner8449]

Plus, considering the price of Beskar, fielding a full army on pure Beskar armor would even at the best of times expensive in a way not even the Imperial Remnant can afford.

[@john.powell645]

Dude Gideon is hold up in a fucking mine ofc he has pure beskar 👀

[@Skye_Writer]

How do you come to this conclusion that it's an alloy and not true beskar? Just because the Mandos took out so many of the troopers so quickly? If you look closely you will see the Mando shots are hitting the spaces in between the armor; Mandos being Mandos, they know the weak points and know where to aim. That's why when Din tanks through and throws one of the Imp soldiers to the ground, he points his gun at the guy's neck and shoots *there* 3 times. Mandos are smart enough to know not to aim for the middle of the chest, after all.

[@hendrikgreiner8449]

@@Skye_Writer I Gideon himself said so, that it is made from "beskar alloy".

[@usernameinvalid824]

@@Skye_Writer And because the dark saber stabbed directly into the armor. Pure beskar is lightsaber resistant.

[@alanhyland5697]

Hope you feel better soon, Alan

[@GenerationTech]

Thanks we alans gotta stick yogethwr

[@paulab5264]

I thought it was strange when the Armorer volunteered to take the injured Mandos to the fleet, instead of remaining with the group to go to the Forge. You would think seeing the Forge again would be her main priority, anybody could have brought the injured to the fleet. Also no one has mentioned Bo Katan's previous connection to Death Watch. The Armorer's secrets will hopefully be revealed in the finale.

[@willwolf8436]

Well I would say she was more practical. She was talking about the great forges but opted for a simple one. So I don't think she really cared if she did or didn't see the great forge at that time.

[@montgomerym5407]

@@willwolf8436 I agree. The comparison of the forges was also her stating, that a Mandalorian was a Mandalorian regardless of “how ornate” they are. She cares about the unity of her people and their survival, I think. I really hope the theory that she’s a spy is wrong.

[@driverbrayer1177]

I was really hoping to see some more back story to Din about him being rescued and being a foundling and also learning more about the actual Mandolorian who saved him. I had high hopes that crhitsyper Lyod character was going to be Din’s father( the Mando who saved him) or something like that

[@BN-uh8cm]

Whaaaaaaaaaat I'm not hating what you're saying I'm just surprised

[@Yamineftis]

It'd had been so cool if this season still had Din as MC instead of making the same arc for Bo Katan again. Din was the perfect vehicle for us to learn and care more about Mandalore 🥲

[@henryhammond7393]

I think her flexibility with the old rules shows growth in her character. I think she sees the old ways as what’s been keeping her people together, but she also recognizes times are changing and she has to help them adapt just not in an abrupt way.

[@Skye_Writer]

I want to believe that too, but Alan is a guy who has traveled the world to make films about peoples and cultures with deeply entrenched beliefs, and it's possible he's drawing from experience of seeing such leaders and the way they run their governments.

[@henryhammond7393]

@@Skye_Writer Yeah, but he’s also quick to admit to being wrong. Knowledgeable, cultured and humble.

[@schanataylor2067]

I took the Armorer comparing Forges to the different factions of Mandalorians. Some walk 'the way', some don't.....some wear helmets 24/7 and others remove theirs.....they may be different, but they can serve the same purpose...the taking back of Mandalore

[@strambino1]

I hope to see boba in the last episode, he deserves more screen time.

[@mateussantos8344]

Mf got a whole ass series

[@DMSProduktions]

This is the way!

[@jonbragg5175]

@@mateussantos8344 And his spotlight was stolen for half of the show, Din legit took his spotlight

[@mattd2026]

His reintroduction into Disney Canon should've been in the most recent episode. It should've been boba floating down instead of Moff Gideon

[@mattd2026]

Just keep boba serving the imperials

[@wraith3920]

I’m curious though if her change of heart was more related to Bo Katan willing to sacrifice for the saving of a foundling as if there were no factions.

[@Commanderstevo]

That was certainly a big part of it, the battle of Navarro showed Bo was also a solid tactical/military leader, willing to fight side by side with the children of the watch and respect the way by walking the path as they do. Then there is the mythosaur sighting which heralds a new age, which the armorer dismissed at first as just a "divine sign" but upon reflection, realizes Bo really was telling the truth, as the victory at Navarro was a pretty clear sign that the times are indeed changing.

[@BigHeadAvenger]

The speculation is warranted, but Moff Gideon didn't know the Mandalorians were going to try and retake Mandalore, until Elia Kane warned him. The Armorer definitely didn't tell him they were coming.

[@TheGordeaux]

This is the best star wars youtube channel. You were 100% right about not believing the theories the Armorer was a spy.

[@aarongreenberg8331]

sometimes, It's very easy to over think things through. I loved the finale episode....really captured the tone of the original Star Wars movie so many years ago. and the ending, with Din chillin' on the porch and Grogu playing with frog, and then the circle.....merry melodies, that's all folks.....really brought it all the way back to Buck Rogers, Knights of the Galaxy, Tom Corbet and his space codets and all those Saturday mornings TV shows that Lucas, me, and so many boomers grew up with. I stood in line holding my son who was a baby in 1977...he is now 47 (!) watching that first Star Wars show....this finale of Mando really brought it all back home. Wow !

[@michaelnextdoor8726]

Armorer is like a priest class, so I think she's unlikely to usurp a leader and take power for herself directly. I think the traitors are the ones who left behind on mandalore and showed them how to find the forge.

[@keithcurtis]

You are a trooper Allen (not the storm- kind of course). Keeping a video-making schedule when you feel like poodoo is not fun and shows amazing dedication. Thanks for all your work. Get some sleep.

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

Out of all the Star Wars content creators , I choose you . This is the way

[@superdivemaster]

"Clearly dedicated to her Tribe" yes ... this is the whole point of her !!!

[@cowmangaming2529]

It is so hilarious how relevant it is that the star wars fandom cannot accept that the Armorer changed her mind and values. lol. She states that the past should lay behind them and that deathwatch is no more, so she might have just changed her mind. I don't understand how the armorer would sit at the table hearing Bo Katan talk about making the mistake of not fighting the empire and laying down weapons and not express some kind of guilt if she were a spy. I will say that it is probably true that she was testing whether or not Bo Katan would follow their creed and fight for the same causes, but Bo Katan has expressed loyalty by saving Paz's son and Mando. I don't believe the armorer would betray those who follow her, but I do believe that she understands and knows the dangers of imperials on Mandalore. The armorer will most likely take the massive fleet to save Mando, but may let Bo Katan die in the end. You never can guess anymore with Jon Favreau creating story lines. There is probably a deeper connected line that we aren't seeing.

[@brightlord-ov7cm]

Fun Fact: everyone read the thumbnail in General Ackbar's voice.

[@m1k3droid]

As for Bo removing her helmet: Once the living waters are accessible again, then any Mandalorian can remove their helmet then go take a bath and be back on The Way, like a Catholic going to confession.

[@duaneolson316]

Nobody talks about how woves takes off in the middle of the fight saying he would go to the fleet for aid. When the armored took off in their only aircraft. How would he get up there?

[@rexvulcan3753]

Me: Reads Title Also Me: "Yes, her face."

[@82celica]

The beskar metal can be purified by the waters that Din bathed in to redeem himself. On that though where was she getting the water from the caves to temper/quench the beskar after smithing as that seemed to be either part or the process and/or the ritual

[@michealdrake3421]

You bring up a lot of really good points here, and many of them were things I had missed or not considered when watching myself, so thanks for that. The one thing that doesn't add up to me is, since the Smith is such a zealot, why would she ever work with Imperials for any reason? The Empire is really second only to the Jedi as an ancestral moral enemy. It's only begun recently but the story so far has all the hallmarks of the origin story to a thousand year blood feud. I can't see a fanatic every working with an enemy like that. I also think that while the Smith is probably smart and cunning enough to outmaneuver Gideon, I don't think she could be manipulating him. I don't think she's well connected enough to blackmail him or impersonate a superior, and she lacks the capability to immediately threaten him or his assets. Although I think it may be possible that Gideon is manipulating her, or is at least deliberately pressuring her in his preferred directions with his actions. Either way, I'm looking forward to finding out. Get well soon, man.

[@LysimedVenteel]

Starforce One did a video yesterday where he found a link between the scene at the table on Mandalore and Leonardo Da Vinci’s painting of the last supper. Given that the episode was called “The Spies” and the only spy was in it for just one scene, we can ascertain that a betrayal is imminent. And the Armourer is occupying the exact seat Judas was to Jesus to Bo-Katan - in that specific painting. Coincidence?

[@TamTroll]

ehh, i think it's less "The armourer has some grand evil scheme" and more "The armourer is having character growth and realizing her past ideals were wrong or will no longer work, and is changing her mind" I am really desperate for the armourer and the children of the watch to not be evil. it's too predictable of a twist. We need something fresh and unexpected, like "The slightly sketchy people were actually completely trustworthy the entire time."

[@TheLitlSpoon]

I'm so glad you talked about the Armorer and how Gideon actually knew how to craft Beskar. The only catch to this is that Gideon specifically says "Beskar Alloy", implying he either doesn't have a lot of Beskar (false, he is on Mandalore), or the Armorers full knowledge of crafting it. So either she is helping him, but isn't being 100% with him. Or she isn't helping him, and he's only figured out how to craft so much of it.

[@irishdc9523]

I don't think it's entirely necessary for a Mandalorian smith to divulge the secrets of beskar. Sure, it would've been easier, but Moff Gideon's remnant has been there for years. It could've been as simple as trial and error to work beskar until they eventually cracked the code. Alternatively, there could've been an Imperial loyalist who was also a smith who spilled the beans

[@TheGreyTurtleEntertainment]

I dismissed the idea of The Armorer being the one who supplied Gideon with the knowledge of how to forge Beskar almost immediately. I feel like there was a scene cut where Gideon reveals he was a Mando Imperial Supercommando. Especially given he's been shown to be able to go toe to toe with a Mandalorian before. And if this is the case, that Gideon is a Mando himself, it's likely he already has an idea of how to forge Beskar.

[@jrev2284]

I think it is Axe Wolves, I saw some other commenters saying the same thing, but Favreau has done a great job of making an ambiguous ending to last week's show and this week is going to be quite the episode.

[@stephenh79]

This is my take on the Armorer and her story. After Bo-katan and Ahsoka retook Mandalore, death watch retreated to the moon of Concordia where the armorer eventually fell out with them as she blamed them (and in part herself) for the fall of mandalore she has a crisis of Faith and ends up doubling down on her Faith she also drops her name to hide her part in the events she starts her new clan and leaves for somewhere new. She doesn’t want the dark sabre if she did she could have took it from Din as she saw how bad he was at using it in the book of boba. She my be the only children of the watch member who can smith, but smithing is a common task for Mandalorians. Sabine Ren said of her armorer in rebels that it was hundreds of years old but she had shaped it to fit her, and the way she said it made it sound like it was common practice for armour to be past down in that fashion. Do i think the Armorer is hiding something from Bo-Katan yes but it’s who she is and what she did when Maul took over Mandalore

[@bobobo2224]

I think that when the armorer told Bo to take her helmet off, Bo did it for a huge reason. I think Bo thought that the armorer was kicking her out of the group... But as a test. Bo removed her helmet to show that she respected the armorer as leader. And by removing her helmet Bo was letting the armorer know that she will obey, even if it means getting kicked out of the cult. So by willingly leaving the group, Bo passed her test. The test had 2 outcomes. Bo gets kicked out or she is worthy to lead them.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Either The Armorer who would turned out to be the traitor or Axe Woves since he is not the most enthusiastic supporter of Bo-Katan and he doesn't hide it.

[@yungcooner]

I feel like axe woves is too easy of a suspect, but they might do it

[@upisntdownsilly]

but axe woves has no incentive tho, he wants to lead the mandalorians, not kill them

[@danv1324]

its the survivors, There is no way they have survived without food for so long maybe Gideon has fed them

[@hardmcshaft7931]

​@@danv1324 it isn't the armourer but id say some of the injured will try and take the flagship

[@Commanderstevo]

All of this theory is predicated on the idea that the title "spies" implies there is more than one, it could just as easily been referring to the fact Gideon has a network of spies. I don't see axe, who fought during the purge of mandalore, ever aligning with them. For those same reasons, I don't see the armorer ever siding with the imps either.

[@Starwarsfan066]

Who's ready for one h*LL of a season finale?

[@a_dreamer8612]

...So we're gonna ignore that scene where she fights stormtroopers?

[@rytherium6712]

Here's a video idea that I believe would be interesting to both you and the viewers. I love your Star Wars ship breakdowns and am wondering what your opinions would be on who would win in a fight between a current fighter jet and a tie fighter, in atmosphere of course.

[@joeking3860]

RIP to the world before season finale, where we all believed for even a brief moment that disney gave a damn about taking risks or investing time in fascinating and interesting stories and didnt just want to deliver safe middle of the road content that exists solely as a product to promote other products

[@Boomblox5896]

Last time we had a risky "twist villain" we got Frozen because the writers suddenly wanted to make Elsa a "good" character. I don't like twist villains. There are too many of them to actually be intriguing.

[@Tampainian]

I think Jon wanted it to look like she was up to something bad, but will come out as a hero.

[@VacomaTeParjila]

13:30 I know alot of people think its a test but I feel that it was just another technicality based smart move by the armorer. She saw Bo was almost getting settled in with the CoTW and wouldn't want to take her helmet off and thus lose credibility with the other mandolorian groups, so she had her take it off to force her (the most likely person for the others to rally around) to go back to her regular behavior

[@rcschmidt668]

Alan, Good forecasting here, and hope you feel better.

[@Revran]

Interesting perspective, but I agree with other commentors that the Armorer's presence in the fleet for the final episode is more a plot device to have a major character in an important battle setting.

[@OllamhDrab]

Eep, feel better, Alan! There does seem to be something nasty like that going around. (Anyway, I keep thinking that there's a lot of non-nefarious reasons behind some of the suspicious stuff about the armorer... It's certainly plausible that she was among the many not taking the Imperial Remnant seriously , and one gets the impression she wasn't getting out much, for instance.)

[@marcuspacheco3815]

Couple of things: if she was deathwatch bo would recognize her. She also probably wouldn't have the same weird compulsions about her helmet. Let's not forget Bo was the number 2 for deathwatch for a long time. #2 It can't be an ancient mandalorian helmate. The ancient mandalorian helmets have a gorget (neck guard) essentially they're like a bassinet. Specifically a cross between a grand bassinet and the nuremberg bascinet. The Fett style helmet is like a barbute, great helm or a sugarloaf, ie no gorget. Specifically the men wear a barbute and the girls wear a Corinthian (550-00 bc). Difference between the male version and the female version is like the difference between a ancient Greek style helmate and a medieval Italian style barbute. A difference being the eye shape cuts with a nasal on the Corinthian vs a T for the barbute. On the surface they might look similar to the ancient mandalorians but if you look at the details of how the masks are actually set up it doesn't make any sense for her to be wearing an ancient mandalorian helmet they're entirely different helmet styles. Imo it would be a great disservice two Nazi evolution in the helmets over time. For the record Corinthians are really ancient but bronze they wouldn't be able to make them from besc... steel until much later. That nurenberg bassinet is from the 1400s and the barbute is a renessance helmate. Evolution.... It's also important to note that the variance between the eye shapes and the T shape is pretty common in the medieval versions of these helmets too. I wouldn't read as much into that as far as dating them as I would their construction.

[@woodlanditguy2951]

Moff Gideon doesn't need "The Armorer" to teach him the secrets of Beskar. The Saxon Mandos joined the Empire somewhere between 10-5 BBY. The Saxon Mandos had a good understanding of Beskar as they were able to backwards engineer Sabin Wren's "Dutchess" machine that could render a mando into a pile of ash. As far as we know, these Saxon Mandos stayed with the Empire until the event we see in season 3 of the Mandalorian. I don't think they had a great understanding of Beskar as they weren't able to perfect the tech that Sabin had created, but nevertheless, they could still forge it into basic armor. I think this is why the Dark Troopers armor wasn't quite as good as Din Jarin's armor. It was forged by Mandos that didn't understand Beskar as good as The Armorer. Sabin Wren would likely have as good as, or a better understanding of Beskar than The Armorer.

[@seekertwo1]

Great video! If anything, the Armorer is a nihilist. She wants a return to the pure Mandalorian society of ancient days. To accomplish this, she has to purge all the heresy and division from the ranks....even if it means destroying all the surviving Mandos and starting anew with the children. Her best tool to accomplish this is Gideon. Like a metalsmith uses fire and hammer to purify and shape the base material, she's using Gideon and Mandalore to make a Mandalorian society in her perfect image..... Get well soon.

[@BigWayne625]

All that corn syrup in that Gogurt counteracts the health benefits of the yogurt.

[@KickapooNinja]

I like how the Armorer has a jetpack now and it looks like the same kind that Rook Kast used lol, it'd really suck if she really abandoned both Din Djarin and Paz Vizsla. I don't see her sacrificing them but this is an interesting theory. Better put together than most "the Armorer is bad" theories I've seen.

[@cubancavalier3051]

Maybe the armorer wants to win the dark saber for herself but didn’t think she could win it from Din. That way she can win control over all the people

[@Commanderstevo]

I dunno, she beat him pretty handily with just her hammers in book of fett.

[@Voitan]

I'm hoping she's playing a long game that finally puts the people responsible for Mandalore's destruction in the dirt, Bo Katan, and Moff Gideon.

[@Sinewmire]

Yeah, that's more the vibe I got - that she's planning to overthrow Bo Katan once Mandalore is retaken.

[@Commanderstevo]

Oof that would be rough. If she was doing that I doubt she would put the children of the watch at such risk, I don't think she is so callous to knowingly let Paz march off to his death. I don't think the armorer is sinister, I think she is just as hopeful for this new age of mandalore, perhaps to a fault, letting her otherwise sensible guard down.

[@johannesbowers7467]

There is something that everybody seems to keep forgetting..... NOT EVERY MANDO WEARS "FULL BESKAR" ! If you Remember from season one our boy started out with regular Durasteel Mando styled armor. His first piece (besides his helmet) was just a shoulder Pauldron. Only after his big payday did he have enough materials to upgrade to a full suit. Most do not get full Beskar, and might have pieces and parts. The imperials don't know the secrets of forging pure Beskar, and usually have Alloys, especially from mass production.

[@frankielooch]

6:00 perhaps the factions that handed them over to the watch did so because they only allow fighters who were born on Mandalorian to join that faction perhaps 🤔

[@jeffreycarman2185]

This next episode is going to be great. I can’t wait to see it.

[@Pkay4058]

Crazy idea #2 the armorer is working with thrawn to get rid of moff Gideon’s group. While also tying up the majority of the Mandalorian fighters and fleets in rebuilding. This way he gets rid of a powerful opponent and keeps the Mandalorians out of the fight with the weak new republic

[@AWOLbriks47]

Imo the spies are the survivors on mandalore. They show up as soon as they land, the captain turns the boat into the creature that destroyed it, then lead them straight into the trap. And you don't see them again

[@KaletheQuick]

Moff Gideon is Mandalorian and was the armorer's apprentice. That's the betrayal.

[@joesalyers]

The one thing I noticed was that the Armor' and Moff Guideon are the only 2 who are wearing helmets with horns. I'm not a very big star wars fan but I like this show and have been watching it and I picked up on that but since the Moff's armor was shiny black it was really hard to see but on my Mini LED monitor with 1000 nits of brightness you can clearly see in HDR that he has the 5 horns on his helment too. I didn't notice it the first time since I was watching a SDR stream on a 1080p laptop but once I switched to the Mini LED HDR monitor I was like, WAIT A MINUTE.......This means something..

[@gregorygray2403]

Alan ,hope you're feeling better soon, dig your content my man I watch alot of videos, my opinion is you're the Best at it Thx

[@setaside2]

Nailed my thoughts perfectly. I agree across the board. Looking forward to tonight's show.

[@Norblivion]

I was writing a comment, and then got to the point in the video which was essentially my point. The Armorer playing both sides against the middle. I think she has some sort of arrangement with Moff Gideon, knows that he is on Mandalore and even have an idea as to what his goals are. I think her play was to use Bo Katan's group as sacrifice to show her 'loyalty' to Gideon but does not care which side falls as either defeat serves her purpose.

[@jamesd5842]

I didn’t think Paz Vizsla had a problem with “tainted beskar”, I think his issue was with working for Imperials to get it, as opposed to taking it from them

[@zacharytate430]

I read a theory that essentially clung to the idea that the Armorer is indeed working with the Imperial remnant, just not Moff Gideon. The theory states that she is working with Moff Pellaeon to bring back Thrawn and setting him up to be the successor of the Empire. Moff Gideon stands in direct opposition to that plan, so she's using Bo Katan's attempt to reunite Mandalore to wear Gideon down and buy time for Pellaeon to locate Thrawn and bring him back to known space.

[@angelicalynn1259]

Pellaeon is a Captain, not a Moff.

[@GGBlaster]

So… a spy, but not a spy? Though it’s definitely a dangerous play, telling your enemy how to create your greatest asset.

[@briangoss4011]

Her not caring about where Mando got the Beskar from can be explained by the fact its really expensive to buy and oh yeah Mandolore was turned to Glass via nukes so they just cant mine anymore from home. Things are so bad we saw her in season one scavenging the Armor off the dead. And her leaving can be explained by the fact she doesn't have a jetpack and there's no way the survivors didn't mention that there are giant creature so big they can take out the land ship in a single blow. So she left because of that and the fact she a melee fighter also. So out of all them she was the only one they could really afford to lose without it effecting the group combat strength.

[@Celestial_Reach]

As a gold Smith, if my cat brought me a giant bucket of gold, it's time to move the covert

[@kickdrop4660]

This aged well

[@ussfury13]

So the one thing I forgot and rewatched season one. The armorer was the only one remaining after the empire slaughtered the Mandalorians on Navarro

[@roycepeterson4096]

Maybe if you didn't eat that table fried chicken 😅

[@GenerationTech]

mistakes were made

[@rayray5076]

The Armorer also got rid of Din's spear. One weapon that could defeat beskar armor

[@heartwork86]

KZbin, get yo algorithm together! Bring this man the viewership he deserves! FOR THE HOARD! Wait.. ooops.. This is the way!

[@johnelliott7020]

Guess she was not a spy - nor any of the others

[@turkeysandwich1998]

I think the dude that's going to be "Judas" the betrayer of the mandalorians is that guy that both Paz vizla and Bo katan fought, he doesn't seem to cool with the new arrangement between the separate Mando creeds

[@andreweiler2045]

Okay your theory has to be wrong because Moff Gideon said his armor was beskar ALLOY meaning a mix of different metals just like steel is an alloy of iron and carbon. meaning the imperials forged his armor NOT THE ARMORER because only a mandalorian trained in the craft could make a pure beskar suit so the lesser smiths of the imperial remnant settled for a beskar alloy. in terms of actual smithing this doesn’t make much sense because to forge an alloy you would first have to be able to work the material made into an alloy but still my point stands

[@papabois5001]

She was left alone in the tunnel while Din escaped in Season 1

[@yeetskeet7234]

I think the analogy she's trying to convey is that her and Bo are different forges, but mandalorian forges nonetheless. JTFC MAN

[@ManatoonProductions]

You just made me think of the shoulder pauldron, probably their method of tracking the Mandalorians and still continuing to track Bo-Katan

[@Boomblox5896]

After much consideration, I think I understand why The Armorer established (or adopted) the rule of not taking off the helmet, so nobody will ever know who is under there and so nobody will question her rules. She never gives anyone her name, nor does anyone know it. Since she believes in foundlings taking up the way, she is more likely to accept an outside presence of imperials taking over Mandalore (as long as the Dark Saber is won in combat) kinda like how Gar Saxon allowed for Mandalore to be ruled under the empire as long as he got to be the governor. This could very well be the continuation of what happened in Star Wars Rebels, if The Armorer was indeed part of Gar Saxon's company of Super Commandos that eventually converted into imperials.

[@daviswall3319]

I see Grogu riding the Mythesaur

[@foleylione]

Next episode, the fleet is attacked and outmatched, the Armorer is part of, or repelling a boarding action. Din and Bo have to figure it out on the ground and the Armorer in space. The republic rangers show up to turn the tide in space and we get a bittersweet turn of events on the ground with some kind of cliffhanger and a cameo or two.

[@TheGreyTurtleEntertainment]

I think the thing about the Armorer is not whether she posses a threat or not, but does she have an apprentice- even the Merc faction seemed to respect her, not because she led the Children of the Watch, but because she is an Armor and Weapons smith. Something that we have not seen that they have. It might be that they're all a little weirded out that a potential former Maul/Deathwatch Mando walks among them, but can't really say anything since she's the only one with forging knowledge. Seriously though, I get the sense she made up the rule about helmets staying on because she's hiding her identity as a former enemy of Mandalore. Edit: I also feel like she knows what's going on with Navarro, she knows what's going on no matter what planet she's on. I feel like she's someone who has good intel because shes a Mandalorian leader, and possibly former scumbag who has friends in low places. I don't think she's out to hurt anyone, save those who hurt Mandalorians. is she suspect? For sure, but I don't think she's one of the baddies persee, I think she's just more likely to cut down threats to Mandalore both external and internal. I also think learning Mandalore wasn't destroyed was just as faith shaking for the Armorer as meeting a Mythosaur was for Bo Katan. Does she like Bo Katan? No, but then again I don't know many star wars fans who did like Bo Katan until Clone Wars season 7 and Mandalorian did some serious image rehab explaining Bo Katans motives, etc. Don't get me wrong though, I think if the Armorer senses that Bo Katan is leading Mandalore for personal gain, she'll be the first in line to take out Kryze.

[@AuraKnightStar]

Wild theory speculation but what if The Armorer is actually Satine Kryse? Hear me out. The Armorer's main focus has always been keeping the Mandalorians and Mandalorian society safe. Duchess Satine also sought to preserve Mandalor by bringing its people into the modern age. She recognized how the perpetual raiding and infighting was destroying Mandalor from within and worked to bring all Mandalorians under a single banner. The Armorer also seeks to unite all Mandalorians together. Satine was a pacifist, The Armorer kept the Children of the Watch hidden. They could have been out raiding or being mercenaries but for the most part they kept to themselves. They didn't get involved in outside events and only fought in self defense. The Armorer only fights with her smithing tools, she has never fired a blaster, a compromise to her pacifist values. Both Satine and The Armorer are both charismatic figures that were able to convince their people to adopt extreme beliefs. As a child Bo Katan (and by extention her sister) were raised on the legends and rituals of Mandalor, Bo just never put much stock in them. As for Armorer allowing Bo Katan to remove her helmet it could be Satine offering favoritism to her sister. The Armorer returning to the fleet could so Bo could be the solo great hero and not inadvertantly overshadow her with her presence. Yes, Maul killed Satine, but when has getting stabbed with a lightsaber ever stopped writers from bringing a dead character back to life.

[@davidrobinson1946]

This is a fun idea. It would be a really cool twist for those of us who know the cannon. Props if you called it.

[@TheGreyTurtleEntertainment]

I've had this theory myself, mostly because it would be fun to have the sisters face off. The only thing that stopped me was that we pretty clearly saw Satine die. However you make a compelling argument at the end there and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

[@lerneanlion]

I think there are political reasons here as well. And yes, the Armorer's desire for the Darksaber is one of them. But aside from that, she might also wanted to preserve the status quo as well. With the Children of the Watch's ranks expanded and the war with the a faction of the Imperial Remnants is intensified, the Mandalorians will carved their own piece to rule on their own in the Outer Rim at the expense of the Imperial Remnants. And coincidentally, this worked for the Third Republic as well if Mon Mothma decided to employ the policy similar to that of "using the barbarians to control the barbarians" of the Chinese Imperial powers back then. So wit hthe Mandalorians and the Imperial Remnants kept fighting each other, the Third Republic can turned blind eyes on all bad things in the Outer Rim and focus on the Core Worlds like it used to do before the Clones Wars.

[@viperson9818]

To be fair the armorer does not have a single blaster for some odd reason nor a jet pack. She’s like the worst mando for a scouting mission or an attack. Honestly mandalorian survivors are the most sus. Gideon forces were definitely tracking the mandalorians for them to leave a bunch of survivors alive is interesting and they’re heading to the fleet Trojan horse style.

[@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan]

Feel better Allen! Can’t wait for this finale. I’m still banking on the Armorer being Ursa Wren. Maybe she did have a deal going with Moff Gideon (trade beskar/ mine water for undisturbed cloning base), but since she learned that the Mythosaur is back she merged the two tribes…betraying Gideon. Also can’t be trusting those mad max mandos, idk about those guys yet.

[@lordmon555]

I think this makes even more sense when you look at Gideon's face when hes told the mandalorian factions are working together implying maybe the armorer was keeping them from working together for a gideon in exchange for beskar and smithing techniques

[@Commanderstevo]

The armorer has much more knowledge of Beskar smithing than Gideon's imps. They can only produce Beskar alloy, while the armorer knows the secret to producing pure Beskar armor. One such secret ingredient being the Living waters, that seems to offer an unmatched purity. The only thing Gideon could offer is Beskar, and we would see much more silver Mando's if that was the case.

[@theamericanpotatonamedphil4306]

As long as the armorer isn't just haha woah twist traitor. Which makes no sense, hopefully it's a bait and switch and they just want us to think she's a spy. Also because she got the Mandos together which moff Gideon didn't want

[@aljonserna5598]

Also what people don't seem to notice is her leather armor? they're based off of Scandinavians so maybe it got inspired by the way to deal with the Norse dragons Lindworms which are really tough but often the way to deal against them is become tough yourself so its venom won't affect you much

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

I though you already saw the episode but yeah, maybe the least obvious is the traitor. The Armorer strikes me as someone from the faction of Maul, and that backstory from Bo might have stirred something in the Armorer.

[@shanehudson3995]

Isn't it obvious that the Armorer is Duchess Satine? No one is ever truly gone, after all.

[@fsugrad03]

The armorer instructed Din to return to Mandalore in ordered to be redeemed.

[@IvanKinkle]

I cannot wait for “Jedi Survivor”. It’s gonna be epic 😫😫😏

[@fieldzy743]

all the theory's about her being bad was great to see they all fucked up

[@breakdown3317]

If im completely honest i don't think the imperials know how to make beskar armor The vibe i got from the suits was more "refitted" and "reused vibes" I don't think its a newly created armor, i think its old suits with a new paint job, and slight modifications

[@jbwadlington]

Thanks Alan,brilliant as always.

[@olgak.1139]

I agree 💯 that Bo Katan shouldn't trust the Armorer about the existence of the Mythosaur 🤔 Let's hope that Grogu tames and leads the mighty creature first.

[@silentfox139]

The horns on her head make it stable when she puts the helmet upside down and fill it with soup