The Ashina Case - Origin of the Gokturks

I dealt with the Göktürks for the first time in film length last summer. But some questions remained unanswered. The most important one also involves a misunderstanding: "Göktürk" refers only to the ruling dynasty of Ashina and Ashide, not to all Turks who lived in the empire. But where did these two tribes come from in the first place?
Their history is as mysterious as it is complex. They appeared seemingly out of nowhere on the Altay, established an empire from Korea to Europe that lasted two centuries, and then seemingly disappeared again. And the names of the Göktürk rulers suggest a non-Turkicorigin. Are some of the Turkologists right with this thesis?
The whole affair is not that simple. But thanks to the latest DNA research, we finally hold the riddle's solution in our hands.
In this video I also talk about the upcoming projects. There will be a second and third Göktürk film, to be released in 2022.

[@weifan9533]

As a Southern Chinese person, I support your videos. I think Gokturk and early Turkic history have been severely underestimated both in the East and in the West. Turkic presence on the steppe of Central Asia and Mongolia might be much longer than anticipated, considering that the word ancient Sinitic people in the Yellow River region from the Warring States period used to refer to the northern steppe peoples was 狄, which is pronounced as "Di" in Mandarin but "Dek" in Old Chinese, and "Dek" sounds rather similar to "Turk". We Southern Chinese and Turks are both peoples with lost histories. Southern Chinese aren't as Sinitic as most people assumed, in fact the native inhabitants of Southern China were the Austroasiatic, Austronesian, Tai-Kradai, and Hmong-Mien peoples, and sometime in the 2nd century BC the Sinitic people from the Yellow River region moved south and subjugated much of Southern China, and we've lost our freedom ever since. The Sinitic people forced us to sinicize, to adopt their names and their culture, but our ancestors resisted against them bravely, and today there're still many native ethnic groups in the region. Right now I'm trying my best to reconstruct the lost histories of Southern China (largely erased by the Sinitics), and I'm also learning Tai-Kradai which is most likely the language of my ancestors, just as you who are trying hard to reconstruct early Turkic history. I really appreciate your series on Turkic history, and I think we're people with a similar goal. Keep up the good work, cheers!

[@Profanumx]

I've heard that the curved sword "katana" used by the Japanese is called "Turkish sword" in Chinese. Is it correct?

[@weifan9533]

@@Profanumx Nope, it's called Japanese sword or samurai sword in Mandarin (there's no language called Chinese, we speak different languages in China). Though I don't deny the possibilities that the katana might have had some steppe influences. But that's not my area of interest nor expertise, I mostly focus on the history of Southern China and SE Asia.

[@middleeastrenwarriormen1017]

@@ProfanumxQilij,Dao,Joseon and Katana is Saber

[@weifan9533]

Southern China's history is severely underrated and underappreciated, and southern natives' martial prowess is also largely underrated. The earliest most detailed record of a native people of Southern China, ironically, came from the Northern Zhou Dynasty (557 - 581), which was a Xianbei/Sarbi Dynasty ruled by the Ebun/Yuwen clan. The Xianbei/Sarbi were a Para-Mongolic or Proto-Turkic people originating from the eastern steppe, and they profited the chaotic situation of China at the end of the Western Jin Dynasty, entered the Yellow River region, and established several kingdoms and dynasties there, ruling over the much larger Sinitic populace. However by the time of the Northern Zhou, the once powerful Northern Wei Dynasty founded by the Tabgach/Tuoba clan had already disintegrated, and Northern Zhou only inherited half of Northern Wei's territories (the other half was ruled by the Northern Qi). Nonetheless, Northern Zhou was still able to defeat the Southern Liang Dynasty and managed to capture most of Liang's territories in Southwestern China, and it was under such circumstances that they encountered the native Liao/Raeu tribes of Southern China, who were most likely Tai-Kradai speaking (but could also be Austroasiatic). Contrary to popular beliefs, the Northern Zhou records described the Raeu people as unruly and fierce warriors, and feuds among different Raeu tribes were rather common. What set them apart from the northern steppe peoples was that the Raeu rarely used bows and arrows in battle, but preferred to use large shields combined with spears and javelins (SE Asian peoples such as Chams and Khmers were armed in a similar fashion). The Northern Zhou found it rather hard to govern the newly conquered Southwestern China due to frequent Raeu rebellions, and they also found it quite hard to defeat the Raeu face to face. So in the end they resorted to hiring Sinitic generals who used treacheries and briberies to subdue the Raeu tribes. And if I remember correctly there was also mentions about the Northern Zhou defeating an allied force of Southern Liang and Raeu tribes, where they first crushed the weak Southern Liang army before defeating the Raeu.

[@fretnesbutke3233]

Fascinating!

[@tedchandran]

Jai Hinduja. New anthropolical studies have shown that all Turkic tribals have a common ancestor living in China's Liaoning province 9000 years ago

[@sssppp6962]

What's hinduja

[@omerseryksagintaev145]

do you mean that china are they Turki what howarish brother? not funny

[@onder_k34]

@伊斯兰新一代哈里发-习瘪三 bruhhh we are still gokturks and it doesn’t matter which part of world we live or born in to it’s in the blood fam it takes a one little drop of 🩸 to transform 🐺 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@trikebeatstrexnodiff]

@伊斯兰新一代哈里发-习瘪三 modern Turkish people of Turkey are Native Anatolian

[@turkunoguzsoyundan6003]

@习猪🐷 biz Türkiye Türkleri yerleşik haklarla çok akrabalık kurduk islam dini ile beraber kültür olara da Araplar farslar gibi başka milletlerden Her ne kadar etkilen miş olsak da kanımızda ashna kanı bulunuyor Unutmadan Türkiye cumhuriyeti nin tamamı etnik olarak Türk değildir %30 oranında kürt Arap ve farstır ve bu azınlıklar sınırlarımız içinde kimliklerini kaybetmemiş halkalardır Türkiye cumhuriyeti baskıcı politika izlememiştir ve kimliklerini korumalarına izin vermiştir Ama Çin in yürütmüş olduğu politikalar Uygur bölgesindeki Türk gruplarını yok etmeyi hedefleyen sapkın politikalardır O bölgede yaşayan insanların bizden uzaklaşmasının tek sebebi Çin politikalarızdır

[@moefinesse9878]

Eurocentrism has plagued the truth of history, even to go so far as to claim Genghis Khan was of Aryan origins. Thank you for clarifying the truth of the Ashina clan being of Turkic origins.

[@user-jj6mx3tc1g]

Descendants are all Han people, because the Ashina family converted to Han people in the Tang Dynasty.😂

[@Str1ker793]

@@user-jj6mx3tc1g not all of the ashina clan became sinicized. Alot of them went to Europe and became the bulanids of the khazar khaganate

[@Raidon8537]

Unfortunately you are right.

[@eisukesasagawa8169]

The Gokturks didn't spring out of nowhere. Their ancestors had been fighting the Chinese for hundreds of years over the supremacy of northern China. They were Turkic-speaking peoples, closely related to the minorities in eastern Siberia of the Russian Federation. Yes, they were all East Asians. Why do they want to hide / obfuscate it?

[@miglena2s]

Beautifully explained. Thank you!

[@lifeisshort99]

Koreans think Turks are brothers.

[@sultanprimov8585]

😂 fanny

[@avmkaya]

I don't care if we have blood ties with the Koreans or not, we Turks see the Korean people as our true brothers and sisters. We fought and died side by side with them, and they have shown and are showing that they are a true friend at every opportunity. In summary, Turks and Koreans are closer brothers than biological brothers. 🇹🇷🇰🇷 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX-4YWygYr6ehKs

[@turkunoguzsoyundan6003]

O ondan dolayı değil biz kore de savaş varyken koreye asker gönderdik ondan dolayı

[@88smokes]

What do you mean? All are brothers to us

[@evenki6687]

We think we are brothers too

[@Didgevillage]

(Gok) Turks were Asians from eastern Siberia. Their ancestors had been fighting the Chinese dynasties for one thousand years in northeastern China and defeated in the 7th AD

[@TonyfromTO]

Love the channel. Saludos.🇳🇮🍁

[@fretnesbutke3233]

I've been putting off getting my DNA test to have something to look forward to. My Slavic heritage more than likely has at least a little Turk,and your excellent channel is making me think about finally giving in. Fantastic, fascinating shows!

[@hawaiianheartbreakherstory_tm]

I thought I had zero slavic, central asian or russian lineage. my DNA test was crazy. I have loads of central asian blood, all kinds of slavic and tartar! which made me laugh since the new conspiracy theory is that tartaria is a conspiracy theory. im half hawaiian so the eastern and southern asian is expected, but i matched loads of mummies from khazakstan.

[@hawaiianheartbreakherstory_tm]

don't even bother with normal DNA tests that do ethnicity. they only go back a few hundred years. go straight for "My True Ancestry". They are the only ones that test you to actual mummies going back sometimes thousands of years. (heads up, their cell phone app sucks. it works better on a desktop).

[@bang4buck326]

@@hawaiianheartbreakherstory_tm There are still Tatar ethnics living in todays China (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region), Kazakhtan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan

[@noyonsulejman]

may Kök Tengri bless house of Aşina🐺

[@aslanersoy8970]

Once I met a persian insisting that Ashina clan was blonde blue eyed Ariyans who were Turkified by Mongols ! 🥴 He was himself a dark haired dark skinned fella, anyway I chose to keep silence 🤐😁

[@edebiefendi1836]

I can't understand those people who obsessed with phenotypes.

[@nomanor7987]

@@edebiefendi1836 because blood 🩸 is thicker than water 💦.

[@robertomassa731]

He was right...

[@aslanersoy8970]

@@robertomassa731 definitely 😁

[@robertomassa731]

@@aslanersoy8970 Many tribes of Scythians, or similar, settled in Southern Siberia and mixed with local people . Many tombs of Royal Scythians have been found between the Altai Mountains, the Bajkal lake, the Yenisey river and North China. They are Scytho-Siberians. Plus the legend of the Wusun tribe is similar to the myth of Ashina Tribe. So it is possible that the first ruling clans of the first confederations of nomads like Xiongnu and Turks were of Scythian descends or origin. Probably already admixed: "Euro-Mongoloid", or "white and yellow". No racism in using this words, just a easy way to understand 🐺 PEACE.

[@jivanselbi3657]

though brief but informative video, thanks for your efforts, we, Turkic people around the world appreciate any honest touch of our past, by the way ''Gök'' though in present Turkic languages means ''sky'' or ''blue'' but also meant ''celestial'' or heavenly guided, QAGAN /KAGAN still used for king

[@Tengrismkz]

Hello! Thanks for your job! I'm Erlan Espenbetov and I'm a teacher and researcher of old turkic runes and states from Kaganica center. As a Turkic runes Teacher I just tell you that the term Ashina didn't mean in Old Turkic monuments but it has only Chinese chronicles. Even Chinese and many others scientists states that Ashina is connected with the most ancient Turkic union- Wusun (Uysin) The term "Uysin" in Old Turkic languages has 2 meaning: 1) Union, Unity 2) a Code (look like Japanese Busido) 3) the Yassa code also descended from the Uysin Code At that time the Nomads who followed this code and believed Tengri could call themselves as Uysin Nearly all scientists states that Xiongnu (huns) and Wusuns are the one and the the same people. This is confirmed by common origin legends and culture in general. The Wusuns were the core of all turkic Nomadic Empires: - the first turkic Khaganate - the western turkic Khaganate - Turges Khaganate - Khazars - the Genghis khans Empire - The Golden Horde - Moghulistan - and then Kazakh, Kazan, Crimean, Uzbek, Noghay Khaganates The descendants of Wusuns still live among the modern nations such as Kazakhs, Noghays, Bashkirs, Kirghiz, Uzbek Karakalpak, Uyghurs, Tatars and they have the next clans: Sary uysin (Yellow Uysins also called Türges) Jalair Dulat Alban Suan Shapyrashty Ysty Oshaqty Qatagan Sirgeli Tabyn Karay Irekty Ramadan Unlar Bağanaly In generally they live in South-Eastern Kazakhstan (near Almaty city). If you would like to know more about Tengrism, turkic runes and tribes welcome to our page!

[@thefaramith8876]

As a Turkic runes Teacher Turks didnt have runes they had Tamga. You are an impostor.

[@Tengrismkz]

@@thefaramith8876 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Turkic_script

[@teovu5557]

@@Tengrismkz your link states that the script is derived from the Sodgians and khorosthi scripts of the Iranic and Indic peoples. lol Before they modelled their script after other peoples alphabet's they used Tamgas as brands to idenify cattle and property and later used for clans and tribes. lol

[@Raidon8537]

@@thefaramith8876 you are not a teacher of anything. You are ignorant.

[@Raidon8537]

@@teovu5557 lmaoooo there are no any similarity even. Baseless.

[@naseemsoherwardy2534]

Amazing DNA analysis

[@MrBeeMAD]

Я сам казах из рода Уак средний жуз. Мы потомки Ашина, Гуннов, Кыпчак. Я помню свою историю.

[@disosiyatif0]

🐺❤️

[@keepcalm4602]

То вы скифы ,то масагеты , теперь гунны и добил вообще Ашина. Вы монголо-кипчаки.

[@sickturret3587]

you are probably related to the dynasty bro.

[@ffgffg645]

Kutluyorum! Çok iyi 👍 uzunca andır izliyorum seni konuya çok tutarlı olgun yaklaşımından dolayı

[@Talha_Safturk]

Good work! Are you aware of the upcomming 'First Gokturk' movie directed by Alper Caglar? It has huge potential tho..

[@s.b.3077]

Çok güzel kaliteli ve net .Werry well done thanks.

[@mitkodimitrov8396]

from when starts hate betwin Dulo and Ashina ,do you know.or only repeat same faery tails

[@jaygonzales8258]

Do Rouran Kaghanate. The Gokturks were once their vassals before they rebelled.

[@user-jj6mx3tc1g]

Rouran itself is attached to China.😅Nomadic tribes are always attached to China, and then when they are strong, the founding of the country goes to war with China and then they are defeated and flee.😅Without exception, only Mongols succeeded in becoming the emperor of China, but the official language, writing, culture and system of the Yuan Empire were still Han Chinese.Because the Mongolian empire collapsed after the defeat.😅

[@teovu5557]

The Northern Wei Dynasty(Xianbei proto Mongols),The various Yan dynasties(Xianbei proto mongols),Liao dynasty(Para-mongolic Khitans),Yuan dynasty(Mongols) and the LAST Chinese Dynasty the Qing dynasty(Jurchen/Manchus) ruled the chinese not just the Yuan Mongols. lol@@user-jj6mx3tc1g

[@cooljerk4362]

in this particular video ,,it portrays the Magyar and Khazars as Ogur Federation ..although Khazars are turkik

[@tszkinmak6556]

ashina ancient cave maybe in Shinjang Qocho north mountain

[@mrjavhlanify]

Ashina=Shina= Shinua is an old Mongolian word a Wolf. I think the Shina clan is an ancient mongolian ruler clan, and speaking Tureg/Turk/ nations. Tureg/Turk/ khan's Khuis Tolgoi rock plate script is written the Mongolian language

[@hasancan.5756]

No. They are lies made by the Uighurs to make history with the Mongols. Although there are 30 tribes of Turks, there are 2 largest tribes. These are Tang and Sui, recorded as A-shis-na in the Wei dynasty records. The other is the A-shis-te tribe. Haplogroup R1a1 of the A-shis-na tribe and haplogroup Qa1 of the rest of the A-shis-te descendants. The Mongols are mentioned as Ku-mo-hsi in Chinese sources. It has nothing to do with the Turks.

[@meralkeskin8511]

Ashina is saka. Yakut turk is ashina root not mongol.

[@Raidon8537]

@@meralkeskin8511 Ashina is not saka. What are you talking about? Shut up

[@Raidon8537]

@@meralkeskin8511 sil şu yorumu bilmeden konuşma.

[@meralkeskin8511]

@@Raidon8537 Sen konuşma davar.. İstediğimi yazarım.

[@cooljerk4362]

from what i understand ..Magyars were not subjected to Khazar or goturk before them the Magyars adopted horselord culture at the right time and avoided russia rising as well

[@ZAZAloco7]

Make a movie about tengri or make a game from gokturks plz

[@KhansDen]

Well, I have had an idea for a video game about the Gokturks for quite a while…

[@user-nx8ri5jj3p]

Переведите пожалуйста текст на, турецкий или казахский языки или на русский.

[@sometimes9417]

please add subtitles.

[@Damian-dt7ij]

I'm not sure I understand the point this video is trying to make. Is it.. that despite the fact that the Gokturks, as Gokturks, can be considered Turkic, the origin of the Ashena clan is not clear and they might have been, at their very beginning, not Turkic? Did I got it right? Anyway, no sarcasma involved: Turk kulturunu cok seviyorum ve Turk tarihi ile ilgileniyorum, sadece anlamak istiyorum. Bu konu asiri karmasik bence

[@KhansDen]

The video is dated. There is new evidence that clears up Göktürk DNA, and I have discussed this in the newest video on this channel "The Celestial Turks 2". So therefore, you can ignore this older vid and check out the new one, it was just released yesterday. Her halde sorun için teşekkür ederim ve esenlikler dilerim.

[@Damian-dt7ij]

@@KhansDen Tamam, izleyeceğim! Her yaptığın için çok teşekkürler: senin belgeselin 'İlk Gök Türk' 'u ikinci kez izledim ve ÇOK ayrıntılı bir belgeseldir! Eline sağlık! Onun hakkında bazı soruralrım var, bir gün belki sana soracağım - Amsterdam'dan selamlar, İtalyanım ama kırmızı beyaz bir kalbim var :)

[@CagrAtesbesta]

well, that video simply answered my last but not least question about legendary Ashina clan. Some of the Iranian people still insist that Ashinas are Iranian but, how? I mean, look there's genetic explaination and there's a thing that don't make sense like "Why all of a sudden every Turkic tribe bend the knee to a clan that is not Turkic. Even back then, the Turkic people called Iranians (and Tajiks) "Tat(s)". According to Al-Kashgari, that means "someone that's not Turkic, it is used often against Iranian". So in a scientific way, they were Turkic. But in Iranian people's theories, they're not. Funny af.

[@Eyyubid_Kurdish]

Ashina clan are iranic idiot

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Ethnogenesis of the Turkic peoples. Languages, peoples, migrations, customs. Andrey Tikhomirov, 2020 "The Turkic peoples are formed on a vast space in the Altai Mountains. In the process of development of Turkic peoples - their carriers, dialects and languages were formed, characterized by similarities - as a result of the unity of their origin and by differences, which are explained by the collapse of the common base language into dialects, and then into separate languages and groups of languages."

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Turks originated in Central Asia not Manchuria lmao😅 robbeet’s hypothesis is nothing but myth without any real evidence.

[@snakeeater0224]

The indo europeans as well.

[@yenidenturktarihtezi]

@@kingoftheworld22 he is Anatolian and Central Asian.

[@Raidon8537]

Turkic peoples originated in Northeast Asia, not Central Asia. Delete this comment.

[@gokturkraider8476]

6:32 They obviously don't. I think you're referring here to the Hongshan Theory. Turks most likely originated in Southern Siberia. Turks, Japanese and Koreans arent linguistically, culturally, genetically or ethnically related to each other at all. Turks are closer to Mongols/Manchus than to them.

[@onur4055]

It ia confirmed archaeological that the Turkic people come from northeast China, near lake Baikal.

[@user-bl6so2iw3y]

Baikal is far from China

[@user-vh8ni3fe1w]

터키인은 정복된 그리스인임 터키에 순수 투르크족은 소멸되었음

[@user-vh8ni3fe1w]

한국인의 대부분이 중국 북부에서 기원한 사람들임 그들이 한국으로 이동 하면서 한국의 부족을 정복하면서 생겨난게 한국인의 조상임 그게 일본까지 퍼졌지 한국인과 가장 가까운 인종이 만주인 그다음이 일본인임

[@user-vh8ni3fe1w]

터키인은 그리스인이지 결코 투르크인이 아님 투르크인은 동아시아인임

[@TailwindAirlines]

Acaba Türkler ve moğolların çinlilerle bir akrabalığı var mı merak ediyorum acaba aynı kökten mi geliyoruz çinliler ile

[@user-xi8fl2yh9t]

在中国，许多人都拥有部分突厥血统，上千年的战争让东亚的游牧民族和汉人产生了一些融合（我祖母的祖先就是Ashina，很久之前他们就按照中国风俗改称自己为史/SHI）。但问题在于，我们不否认塞尔柱人是突厥的部落，但是很明显作为征服者，他们人数很少。所以，现在的土耳其有多少是真正的Oghuz突厥人其实是个问题。

[@bizmyurt8582]

Actually it is not Gök Türk but just Türk word Gök (heaven and blue) is just used as a word in a description not as a name only Türk is used as name in the Ötüken inscriptions, just a missinterpretation buy someone who read it in old days!

[@hawaiianheartbreakherstory_tm]

I matched all kinds of mummies from khazakstan, mongolia and the altai mountains...im half hawaiian so i was expecting some mongolian, but the sheer amount of mummies i matched from central asia is nuts. I guess my white mom isn't as "white" as we thought. She's descended from every scottish monarch.

[@cannygau4447]

All Ashina were killed by Western ! Poor Gokturks !

[@KhansDen]

Huh?

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

​@@KhansDenI fled to the Huns 😂😂😂

[@KhansDen]

So what, @@user-cg2tw8pw7j ? Do you think you'd feel funny if you fled for your life?

[@learn6036]

Turk or Sakha they are northerner move south (mix with the Chinese), east (mix with the Ainu) and west (mix with the Middle Eastern), Check Sakha in Russia.

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

The Scythians were an Indo-European people who were racist, worshiped the dragon and the Nazi symbol, and created the caste system in India.

[@derhutchenspieler2838]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@alorikkoln]

This is all 💯 true!!! Whusan.

[@middleeastrenwarriormen1017]

first Turkic Kingdom after fall of Rouran Khaganate

[@user-jj6mx3tc1g]

Behind the rise of Turks is the support of China. China always plays the balance policy badly and then cleans up those nomadic empires himself.😅Mongols should be considered the luckiest. When they met China, which was divided into four pieces, they were defeated and collapsed! But Kublai converted to Chinese culture and became the emperor of China.😅

[@mehmetcaglarozgur7679]

Alper Çağlar iş başında. Kolay gelsin.

[@hawaiianheartbreakherstory_tm]

It's kinda crazy cuz the western khazarians have the same DNA as the pacific y-dna C2. Going back to Batyr Alau. Also crazy in Maui one of our ancestral great grandfathers that lived the same era as the Gok-Turks and Khazarians is named guess what???? PRINCE ALAU!!!! There's an island on Maui named after him. Also crazy and unexplainable....we have horse petroglyphs that predate captain cook. Someone is lying about HAwaiian history!

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Turkic Tiele origin🥰🥰🥰

[@abdulkadirkutluay0435]

Heryerdesin mübarek

[@Raidon8537]

@@abdulkadirkutluay0435 shut up

[@htaimaimunbaskunchi7234]

WE, UIGHURS HAVE A STORY OF OUR ORIGIN AND WOLF MOTHER

[@byambajavr6519]

If you read ancient Tan state letter, there mentioned Ashinas history. There were Suo country which were behind Hu, yenisei and abakan rivers are their water resources. Ashina Suo country is hu’s another relative and even mentioned their khans during the era of Suo country. Unfortunately, khans of Suo country were not smart and they divided and finished up conquered by their neighboring people. One of children of Ashina clan fled from the war zone and female wolf feed that boy. The boy escaped to today’s Qinhai lake and become citizen of Hu’s Rouran khanate. After around 150 years, Ashina family become around 10k and they used political situation of Rourans very smartly and won the battle with Rouran. Since after they named their country as Tureg. That was beginning of great Gokturk Empire.

[@teovu5557]

Sou is the modern mandarin pronunciation of the name. In old Chinese it is Seok or Sok which maybe related to the term Sak/Saka.

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

​@@teovu5557The Scythians and Sogdians have the same legend

[@teovu5557]

@@user-cg2tw8pw7j both scythian(scula/skuda in scythian) and sodgian(suguda in sodgian) means Archer/shooter in proto east Iranian languages. Referring to their archery skills.

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

@@teovu5557 Yes, but to talk about the legend that an army defeated a tribe and only one boy survived, and this boy was raised by a wolf and founded a kingdom. Yes, the same legend exists among the evil Sogdians and Scythians.

[@metaversemondefictif5188]

Yaşasin türk irki .

[@christinezavadil9768]

First you prove that you are really turk,,, genetically 99% possible that you can't be,,, sorry,, but these days with science everything canbe proved,,,

[@necipcaglayan3722]

orgin of the turks come from ADAMS SONS ARMY.. allah creat first human and put in to haven,,, than send to erth... both adam and eve,,, tha they have two son give birth,,, than adam give a order one of the his son to make an army... and tham son of adam named his army as a TURK........ ther was a two importante continent call MU AND ATLANTIS.... TURKS WAS BORN IN MU CONTINENT..... CHECK IT OUT..

[@gokhan3561]

Lütfen Türkçe altyazılı koyun

[@opansofian]

ASHINA UZUMAKI

[@Mustafa1998]

5:15 that's a wrong assumption because those listed names are given by others. nivar is called ishbara as well. it's also probable that ashina never used the name ashina, because it was an iranian version of kök (blue) as well.

[@collectionone9229]

No offense. But Ashina (and also the names of the khans) is the name well documented in the ancient Chinese literature. It is unlikely that the Chinese historians and Iranian ones collaborated together to invent the same name(s) for the Gokturks. It must be that their names were wide spread to ancient China and Iran.

[@Mustafa1998]

@@collectionone9229 there is a consensus among historians that name may be saka or sogdian origin, and everyone knows china's relation with the sogdians. why isn't there single proof that the göktürks used the name ashina in their inscriptions, but "kök"? the name ashina doesn't even sound gramatically turkic, and it means blue in another language.

[@robertomassa731]

@@Mustafa1998 Because the Ashina Clan was of Scythians/Saka origin. The Altai region is the place of Scytho-Siberian culture. So the first Gokturks were a mixed ethnicity since the beginning. "Euro-Mongoloid" or "white and yellow". No racism using this words. The Ashina Clan was descendant of the wolf. The Scythians called themselves Wolves of Ares... 🐺 PEACE.

[@collectionone9229]

@@Mustafa1998 You are probably right about the saka/sogdian origin of the word Ashina. My point is that the name Ashina is unlikely to be heard from sogdians for the Chinese, because they did have witnessed members of the Ashina family. For example, 1. One daughter of Göktürk's Muqan Qaghan married to Emperor Wu, becoming Empress Ashina (551-582) in ancient China. It is unlikely that the Chinese used the wrong (surname/clan) name to refer to their own empress. 2. Ashina She'er (Dubu Khagan, reigned over 628-634), son of Chuluo Qaghan submitted to Tang dynasty, and later became a general who were in the top political circle of Tang dynasty. Again, it seems unlikely that the Chinese used the wrong (surname/clan) name to refer to their general who has a noble origin from the ruling family of the ancient turkic peoples. At least, the name Ashina was used when it came to foreign diplomacy at that time.

[@Mustafa1998]

@@trikebeatstrexnodiff yav he he

[@jagdishhooda7853]

They are not from wusun community Wusun community belongs to Meel jats community They are hunnic/Turkic tribe

[@sssppp6962]

Jars are not iranic they are indic

[@jagdishhooda7853]

@@sssppp6962 80/. Jats from Iran They were not Indian before Now they're indian

[@sssppp6962]

@@jagdishhooda7853 no jats are indic race jat clans like virk are mentioned in ancient books before invasion of Scythians

[@sssppp6962]

@UCKKiwjzphPlP2fPsQf-f9BA bruh u guys are not Iranian you don't speak iranic language u look mostly indic

[@jagdishhooda7853]

@@sssppp6962 Dawala, Gillan (gill) Wadan,sudhan, tur ,turan buran Who is that people

[@abdullahalrai]

I believe Gok-Turks and Mongolians are actually the descendants of Scythians,also known as, Gog and Magog of the Bible and Holy Qur’an.

[@Eyyubid_Kurdish]

Bro Scythians are Iranic

[@bang4buck326]

Gog and magog are not the same as Yajuj Majuj.

[@ameeyafloraz3475]

MidAsia, Mongolia and China are far much closer to ancient Turk in blood than Turkey Republic

[@turkunoguzsoyundan6003]

Kardeşim Türkiye cumhuriyeti nin tamamı Türk değildir %70 i Türk tür ve ayrıca ben Türkiye cumhuriyeti de yaşayan bir Türk olarak genetik olarak %80 orta Asya Türk gruplarına yakın bir Türk geni taşıyorum

[@Str1ker793]

Mongolia, yes. China. No

[@middleeastrenwarriormen1017]

thumbnail : Kipchak in Mongolia

[@KhansDen]

I'd argue that "Turk in Mongolia" summarizes the Ashina Dynasty quite well ;-) On a serious note, it is very difficult to find any images that would resemble the Ashina, and even while the people in said image aren't exact look-alikes, they do give a good impression of how the Ashina and many more steppe tribes and peoples looked like, dressed like.

[@brightburnedits4278]

Ahina tribe iranic origin

[@Timurid1370]

Are turks also iranic?

[@middleeastrenwarriormen1017]

😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@middleeastrenwarriormen1017]

@@Timurid1370 i hate look at your photo profile

[@hasancan.5756]

@@meralkeskin8511 Eksik var.

[@Khagun.]

All under heaven, oh Great Tengri, the sun moon and the trident/ (diving falcon ),flies in all flags of all nations, we have done as u have commanded, we have spread our bloodlines far, now more then half the world bears your mark of blessing, all their kings and holy men carry our bloodlines, we have torn down towers of those who say only us, we have infused the blood lines of the meek and they have truely inherited the earth, oh holy one, the blue bloods marked by your hand as we are born, the world will once more find peace in these turbulent times in the hands of the children of Mongol mark. * the seers and medicine man rejoice in all the glory. In silence the monpas have made the world ready to be as one under one divine mark. ® all under heaven all equal the holy trinity of man women and child under you and that all understanding and human achievement comes only from the holy trinity of knowledge, will and action.

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

Tengri: Why didn't your brothers help you, you infidel? You deserve to kill your Scythian brothers better than you.

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Altaic or Transeurasian languages are actually a sprachbund not an actual language family.

[@sarubet8725]

Yeah. Everyone was an aryan. Even chinese dynasties. All iranian.

[@user-jj6mx3tc1g]

Aryan? Isn't that China's slave sacrifice?😅Go and see thousands of Aryan skulls unearthed from Shang tombs.😂

[@charvaka9526]

The AI English narrator voice is annoying. Mispronunciations are too frequent. The tonal quality is nasal and squaky, although not unusual.

[@KhansDen]

Please check out my newer videos. Those old AI voices are gone, it should be much more pleasant to listen to.

[@charvaka9526]

@KhansDen I'll do so. Thank you very much.

[@user-qu6rz8jh3c]

Glory to the Kazakh People!Askar Ar-Gunn Bahadur.Qaragandy.

[@hasancan.5756]

A-shih-na tribes Dna is R1a1-y2632.

[@Raidon8537]

NO. IT WAS Q.

[@hasancan.5756]

@@Raidon8537 No Sorry. İt was Q haplogroup Turkish A-shih-te Clan. Q1a1-L53.

[@Raidon8537]

@@hasancan.5756 Turkish? Wtf? We talking about Turkic.

[@hasancan.5756]

@@Raidon8537 Türkçe biliyor musun?

[@IranAzadLoading]

Ashina were R1aZ93, ashide were not.

[@chengezhussaini1464]

That haplogroup is found among both Turkic and Iranic peoples. But my guess would be that the Ashina were once predominantly Iranic before the onset of intermarrying into East Asian women of the Ashide. Ashina may have later in turn become the Khazar ruling class as they left for Europe after the collapse of the Gokturk empire. Obviously I have to admit, that I am bias lol.

[@IranAzadLoading]

@@chengezhussaini1464 i am abit biased being Iranian Azeri but I do think that it is a good case to make.

[@gokturkraider8476]

@@chengezhussaini1464 Cope harder, Ashina were never Iranic, but they probably mixed with them later.

[@gokturkraider8476]

Ashide were Q

[@IranAzadLoading]

@@iskitsiken nope, Ashina is r1aZ93

[@sultanprimov8585]

I am Kyrgyz 🇰🇬 not Turk

[@bamsbeyrek4939]

Ne güzel..Biz de Oğuzuz 🙄

[@sultanprimov8585]

@@bamsbeyrek4939 iyi anladım biz de kökumuz Orhon ensai Kırgızlarıyız

[@Timurid1370]

@@sultanprimov8585 kırgız=türk

[@sultanprimov8585]

@@Timurid1370 Turk=kirgiz

[@TheIronHordesman2]

@@sultanprimov8585 ikimizinde Atası Göktürk devleti. Birde inglizcede Turkish ve Turkic ayrı terimler olmasına rağmen Türkiye Türkçesinde böyle bir olay yok. Bilesin, çoğumuzun "Turk" deyip bahsettiği "Turkic" anlamında başka Türk boyları konuşulurken

[@snakeeater0224]

Turkish was the lengua franca..also Iranian (indo European=pidgin language )in the Silk Road. Kazakh, Kyrgyzstan and Mongolia are Chinese merchant states or merchants in general (Hindu..Gypsies/indo europeans, Chinese, and arab). Xiongu(kets/Mari/mansi/Komi/utmurds)=Hittite/hunnic/Scythian/yuezhi/cimmerians/ashina turk/chuvash turk. Silk Road had merchants that tried to emulate their rulers. Stop making them mongloid….racist culture thieves.

[@xanshen9011]

Wtf

[@snakeeater0224]

@@xanshen9011 …do the Kazakh (hui chinese)/Kyrgyzstan/Mongol view Turkish and huns (magyar ) as Scythians? Also why do Gypsies even exist?

[@Raidon8537]

idiot lol

[@ElenaKamesh76]

Ashina Dept kipchaks mean Kazakhs. Turks Scythians.

[@middleeastrenwarriormen1017]

Kazakh were Turco-Mongol Kipchak descendant

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

​@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017That's why they have blue eyes 😂😂😂😂

[@jimijimbow2830]

First Turks were Ashkuz from Qafqaz which was called as Ashkenaz back then. Greece called them as Scyth. Their subdued clans got scattered around all Euroasia from Japan to Spain. The Khazars as the second class in Ashkuz caste system traced their ancestry back to the Balanjar grand son of Gomer son of Jepheth son of Noakh. The origins of Turks and other white people is all from Caucus as descendants of Jepheth. They believed that ARAZ (god of war) created them and they were the chosen people by gods to be the most similar mortals to themselves. Though QAYRA was responsible to create other humans. Trojans, Sumerians and several civilizations prior to the Achamenid were Turkic speakers. As always all references consent that Turkic tribes were all white. And dont listen to those Greece-Armenian trolls.

[@robertomassa731]

Do you agree that Ashkenaz is Scythians and Scytho-Siberians (Saka tribes mixed with Siberian tribes of Altai Mountains) are proto-Turks? And the Ashina Clan of the Gokturks was a Scythians tribe? Ashina-Ashkenaz... 🐺 PEACE.

[@ozgur781sen]

Could you provide credible and academic sources for your claims?

[@jimijimbow2830]

@@robertomassa731 sure but not originally from siberia but Caucus. The Saka people over there had been driven there by the Uzbeks. During 9000 years to 1000 years ago the Ashkuz and their branches were immigrating all around.

[@jimijimbow2830]

@@ozgur781sen sure i can but not in these comments. At least you can study about the linguistic and cultural and genetic traits of Sumerians, Elamits, Goti, Lolobi, Trojan, Scyth and other objections.

[@snakeeater0224]

@@user-rn6nb2ey7e write so much but it is in vain…..mongliod is a recent condition. There are tribes that are pre european and pre mongliod.

[@LurkerAnonymous]

People seem to forget that Eurasia was Aryan land, before asian phenotypes took over.

[@snakeeater0224]

No, not indo european Gyps.ies, neither East Asian.

[@robertomassa731]

@@snakeeater0224 So what? ... Indo-European gypsies?

[@arishemghoul9571]

I doubt that

[@user-jj6mx3tc1g]

Aryans are sacrifices of China people.😅The Aryans invaded China in Shang Dynasty and were sacrificed in captivity as a result.🥹

[@user-jj6mx3tc1g]

More than 4,000 Aryan skeletons and Aryan skulls have been unearthed in Shang Dynasty.😅

[@christinezavadil9768]

😎😎😎😎😎 WHY in your programme you couldn't mention any date,, and you overlooked the existing KURDS 1/4 of the population in turkey?????!!!!! Your bias on the matter explains everything so evidently

[@christinezavadil9768]

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@KhansDen]

This is about the Ashina dynasty in Central Asia. There is no connection to Anatolia here whatsoever. If you necessarily need to watch videos that promote other topics I suggest visiting other channels that focus on those topics.

[@learn6036]

Too bad the Turks in Turkey don’t have much written history, that is problem of all the researchers, the history are written by others, also a lot of all these are assumptions and oral history which some of it can be questionable, only the Ancient Égyptiens, Greeks, Persians, Romans, Jews, and Chinese have written record prior to 600AD, a lot of modern history are written after 600, these coincide the rise of Buddhism from India, and Islam from Medina. Don’t use unfounded history to spread hatred. Also, language alone can’t really tell ethnicity, just look at America not all American are European settlers, the Native American/Inuit now all speaks English, it is of course a lingua franca of country. Same as in Europe before the collapse of Latin. Do we know the ottomans didn’t force the inhabitants to speaks Turkic or did they? One for sure we know prior to collapse of the ottoman all Turks write in Arabic scripts except the Sakha, this ONLY survive in China, the rest went extinct or change to a different written system to distance themselves away from the Ottoman Empire that destroyed the Byzantine empire.

[@berkozturk7043]

We know a lot about Ottoman's policy on other ethinicities. They didn't force Turkish/Turkic to other groups. We can see that just by looking at the lands they conqured except Anatolia. None of the inhabitants of these lands speaks Turkish today. In Anatolia, Turkish language spreaded in a very natural way, not by elite dominance. It happened through the Turkic(mainly Oghuz) immigrants and the locals whose Turkified by the immigrated Turkic people by the way of intermixing.

[@ZQQHello1919rty]

You are right about during the Ottoman Empire language wasn’t force to the inhabitants, but the question here is prior to the Ottoman Empire, how a far away language from Sakha an ethnically different from the current ethnically Turk reaches Turkey? we have to question the unwritten history before the rise of the Ottoman Empire.

[@christinezavadil9768]

@@berkozturk7043,,, most of inhabitants of today's turkey are settlers and genetically differs from one another indeed they do speak Turkish but genetically they are not,(turkey mostly khazarians which they spoke turkic Mongolians siberians tatars ETCS)) ,,, like English language,, by speaking English does not make one tobe English,,, I wouldn't say American,,, like wise Turkey it is built up mostly by settlers, and immigration from different ethnic groups,,, And no one is mentioning the KURDS why????? 🤔

[@christinezavadil9768]

@@ZQQHello1919rty so interesting,, ottmann had forced Islam on every nation thy occupied but not the language??? Armenian file proves otherwise

[@hasancan.5756]

@@christinezavadil9768 People like you are causing racism to rise. Turkey has been investing in weapons more than ever in the last twenty years. When I say to those people that they are not real Turks, I laugh all over the place. It is absurd to think that people who do their best not to be Mongolian are Mongols. The P haplogroup is divided into subclades, including R1a1-y2632 and Q-L53. Search.

[@baybarssonmez6799]

TURKS ARE THE KING OF THİS WORLD 🤘🇹🇷🇦🇿🇹🇲🇰🇿🇺🇿🇰🇬🇭🇺🇧🇬🇧🇦🇲🇳

[@Alexander-cb9yq]

Greetings from Bulgaria!

[@ac4633]

Evet Türkün haline bak, ötme!

[@baybarssonmez6799]

@@ac4633 NE var lan Türkün halinde düdük!!??Allahın ANDAVALLISI!!ZÜBÜK SEN TÜRKÜ BIRAK KENDİ HALİNE BAK!!!

[@baybarssonmez6799]

@Qd player MONGOLS ARE 40 % KARA TATAR TURKS!!AND VERY MUCH KAZAK AND HAKAS TURKS ARE LIVING IN MONGOLIA!!🤘🇹🇷

[@baybarssonmez6799]

@Only Turkic Ashina Clan NO!!THEY CAME TOGETHER FROM ALTAY TO MANCURIYA AND MONGOLIA! MONGOLS ARE %40 KARA TATAR TURKS!!IN THE AREA IN BAYAN ARE ONLY KAZAK AND HAKAS TURKS!!

[@crenshaw8152]

Ashina is Fake the turks are Older

[@KDJsounds]

Can you elaborate please?

[@janzhaqsybek2370]

Сan you prove,,?

[@robertomassa731]

Ashina Tribe was one of the tribes from the Western Eurasian nomads. It was stantiated between Central Asia and western China (Gansu). When it was decimated by a foreign enemy (the Chinese army is one possibility) the remnants took refuge in the Altai Mountains where they united with local Siberian peoples. The Ashina Clan was the result of this union.

[@janzhaqsybek2370]

@@robertomassa731 Ashina tribes are our kazakh tribes Yisin,!

[@robertomassa731]

@@janzhaqsybek2370 Beautiful, they are still alive! Is it true that you have also the Wusun? With the name Usun? Thank you for answer me.

[@yokartik]

Türkiye yanarken baska derdin yok mu?

[@yokartik]

bu yorum sonrasında gelen, " these step warriors " lafı çok güzel tamamlamış görseli haha.

[@brightburnedits4278]

Ashina tribe which ruled turkic people is iranic origin

[@KhansDen]

And Ak Koyunlu, Kara Koyunlu and Safavids who ruled over Persia are of Turkish/Turkmen origin. Your point?

[@brightburnedits4278]

@@KhansDen Safavids are Iranic ak koyunlu and kara was persinate they only rule small part of iran

[@KhansDen]

@@brightburnedits4278 Really? Is that why Ismail I. was the grandson of Uzun Hasan, who in turn was the son of a Pontic Greek and Turkmen Beg? The Gokturks were Turkic, yet the Ashina's origin is important for you. Regarding Persian Empires, you disregard the dynasties origins all of a sudden. Don't twist history to make it convenient.

[@brightburnedits4278]

@@KhansDen ASHINA TRIBE IRANIC ORIGIN how many times i need to prove it❤ according to historians and Researchers such as H.W. Haussig, S.G. Kljyashtorny, A.N. Bernstamm, C. V. Findley, B.A. Muratov, R.R. Suyunov, D.G. Savinov, S.P. Guschin, Rona-Tas, R.N. Frye, point out the origin of the Ashina from Saka-Wusun. according to Orientalists A. N. Bernstamm and D. G. Savinov also suggested the Saka Iranic origin of the Ashina tribe and also according to Denis Sinor and Sergei G Hungarian researcher András Róna-Tas, who finds it plausible "that we are dealing with a royal family and clan of Saka Origin he was taking about the Ashina tribe Also according to Orientalist, Yu. A. Zuev, also points out the origin of the Saka-Wusun of Ashina tribe and many others historians and Researchers Also Ashina tribe were also founder of Khazars Empire

[@brightburnedits4278]

@@KhansDen Göktürk Was Iranic origin The rulers of Göktürk empire were Iranic Saka-Wusun origin Iranic nomads origin form the Ashina tribe according to historians and Many researchers including Peter B. Golden,[8] H. W. Haussig,[9] S. G. Klyashtorny,[10][11] A. N. Bernstamm,[12] Carter V. Findley,[13] D. G. Savinov,[14] S. P. Guschin,[15] Rona-Tas[16] and R. N. Frye[17] TURKIC HISTORY IS JOKE Form Oxford Findley's observation is further supported by Peter Benjamin Golden and also by the Hungarian researcher, András Róna-Tas, who finds it highly plausible 'that we are dealing with a royal family and clan [that is] of Iranian origin, almost certainly Saka'. If that origin provided anything more than simple cultural influences then this would mean that the Ashina core tribe was almost certainly of Indo-European origin.

[@Eyyubid_Kurdish]

Ashina clan are Iranic

[@Raidon8537]

Idiot

[@Raidon8537]

Not even close. Are all iranians that ignorant?

[@Timurid1370]

iranians are cringest people on the earth

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

​@@Raidon8537Have you seen your face?

[@user-cg2tw8pw7j]

​@@Timurid1370At least they're not racist like white sheep who kill anyone with small eyes

[@t.a8398]

Yeahh every greath man is withe origins 🤣🤣🤣🤣 just stop making those false theories chek history and ask your self the right questions

[@KhansDen]

What?