THE ATOLL | Waterworld's Wild Rough Cut

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The Atoll

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@Chris-nx9lz
@Chris-nx9lz 8 ай бұрын
I'm running a Waterworld tabletop RPG and your channel has been invaluable to get the world building right. Thanks so much for your dedication to our favorite film!
@Torque2100
@Torque2100 8 ай бұрын
Oh nice! What system are you using?
@ThisSiteisCrap
@ThisSiteisCrap 8 ай бұрын
I'd also like to know. that sounds awesome!
@Chris-nx9lz
@Chris-nx9lz 8 ай бұрын
I'm using Fantasy Flight's Genesys generic system. It became popular through the Star Wars game and they made a generic version. I really like the dice rolling and how it can create more interesting narrative situations. I highly recommend it!
@Torque2100
@Torque2100 8 ай бұрын
Good choice as far as generic systems go. I've read the Android Netrunner setting book but never got a chance to play it.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Heck yeah! Happy gaming!
@TrackZero
@TrackZero 8 ай бұрын
"I can't go through all the differences, so here's 50" LOL That's how it's done.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Thanks TrackZero, you made me smile!
@lsg303
@lsg303 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll where to get it? do you have download link?
@Mr.Death101
@Mr.Death101 8 ай бұрын
Best Monday gift ever!!
@benny_lemon5123
@benny_lemon5123 8 ай бұрын
Gonna start using “Crabs of hell“ in my day to day 😂
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
YES! Do it!
@TheBearInTheChair
@TheBearInTheChair 8 ай бұрын
This, I have to say, is one of the best ports of call on the internet. Thanks for sharing!
@ChaunceyGardener
@ChaunceyGardener 8 ай бұрын
I always learn something new about movie production with your videos.
@JuliusCaesar888
@JuliusCaesar888 8 ай бұрын
FINALLY A NEW UPLOAD
@jmanusmc2006
@jmanusmc2006 8 ай бұрын
There's a deleted scene where the decan says "there used to be atolls on every horizon". Could you do a what if video exploring various atoll civilizations and how populated waterworld was at its peak?
@Elfrunner
@Elfrunner 8 ай бұрын
After reading the book, there was certainly a lot left out of the film. One of my favorite parts was the Smokers watching one of John Wayne's movies in their makeshift auditorium. I also appreciate the attention to the months of the calendar: Farch, Mapril, June, and Saugust.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yes! I have always wondered if that auditorium scene was actually shot, since it is mentioned in the collecting cards, novelization, and manga.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 8 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video!
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking it out Bible!
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 4 ай бұрын
He's the WetMaxBible
@ricktruman1416
@ricktruman1416 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing this cut to light. Your videos are always welcome and enjoyable.
@Leprechaunproduction
@Leprechaunproduction 8 ай бұрын
This rough cut shows how even a few snips and trims can completely change a character: Removing all references to the Smoker being a pedophile was the right call, and having Helen give up on Dry Land being real would have made her more complex, and made finding Dryland all the sweeter. I think the Smokers themselves would have benefited from a few of these shots being in the film; having them show some self-preservation instead of being suicidal fanatics would have been nice, and that scene of the one Smoker coming to help the deacon after the Deez sinks was one of my favorite moments in the novelization. Also, seeing the Mariner flopping around underwater like a drunk fish is the funniest Waterworld-related thing I've ever seen.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty interesting how many little changes can really effect a film. I have always wondered what the movie felt like with the original score by Mark Isham. And yes, the dolphin swim is so funny in the rough cut!
@wolflarsen941
@wolflarsen941 8 ай бұрын
The enforcer says "Drifter" not "Victor", since he is in fact a drifter, having no name, home, or😮 place that he hails from.
@PaulKretz
@PaulKretz 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, listening closely, it is obviously so. But at first glance (you know, it's easy to hear what you're told to hear) I thought maybe he called him Victor simply because he solely held victory over the Smokers.
@RuneChaosMarine
@RuneChaosMarine 8 ай бұрын
​@@PaulKretz I thought the same thing about victory. The way the people of water world use language, victor may be a title, the enforcer would have used, to replace drifter. While drifter would also fit here.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Aw yes, that's totally it. Oops, thank you for the correction! :)
@brickmickbrick
@brickmickbrick 6 ай бұрын
​@TheAtoll btw if you are so into water world and it's history try crowdfunding a game for it hire some devs and make a game take some team management courses and make a game you have such a passion for this movie so make something related to it
@JuliusCaesar888
@JuliusCaesar888 5 ай бұрын
This was one of your best uploads dude. Also, it's such a shame so many of these shots were left in the cutting room, several of them would have been awesome if kept/polished. For the record, the extended shots of the atoll siege really add to the scale, and convey the legit terror of what a raid would be like for real. That many hyper aggressive men showing up on scrappy boats with all kinds of technology - very frightening if you're already in a precarious way of life.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 5 ай бұрын
Yes, you can really see how much time and energy went into the Atoll attack sequence. It's a showstopper for sure!
@kylehazachode
@kylehazachode 8 ай бұрын
I love this film still pushes the Jet Ski vs WaveRunner fad of the early 90s. The Jet Ski (standing) became popular in the late 1980s. Baywatch helped emphasize the Jet Ski’s extreme/gangster attitude. WaveRunners (sitting) were seen as an old person transport. Jet Ski was XTREME. The Jet Ski fad died hard by the mid 1990s. PlayStation and N64 tried to bring the fad back with Jet Moto and WaveRace64. Jet Ski never made a comeback. But I love how WaterWorld’s represented the Jet Ski as more aggressive than the WaveRunner. WaveRunners had the bulky riders with guns, Jet Skis had the acrobatic riders that sparked fear in their victims.
@Waxer3929
@Waxer3929 8 ай бұрын
That's some interesting history I hadn't thought about. It's funny we generally call all wave runners jetskis when they aren't used as much
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
This is great! Excellent context here, thank you!
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 8 ай бұрын
its peak 90s for sure
@ToaxnHoldem
@ToaxnHoldem 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate your dedictation to Waterworld, wish we could get a reboot, tv series with the same nostalgic style.
@MP83
@MP83 8 ай бұрын
Ever since I learned about the mariner's ear being edited in the finished movie, I've been wondering what it used to look like originally. I can totally see why they edited it, haha. Another great episode, Mr. Atoll. Keep up the great work!
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
You and me both! Yeah, a bit fleshy. Thanks for always turning out for the premieres MP83!
@pittviper2243
@pittviper2243 8 ай бұрын
best water world coverage around !
@evening-genii2004
@evening-genii2004 8 ай бұрын
Where can I watch full version of this cut?
@demanzanop
@demanzanop 8 ай бұрын
For old things like this, your best bet is to go for a torrent; someone, somewhere has a copy in his HDD and is willing to share.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Hit up the channel email and I will help you out :)
@Vintage9x
@Vintage9x 8 ай бұрын
Good video as always and I appreciate the shout-out.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
You made this video happen!
@PRESIDENT_LEMON
@PRESIDENT_LEMON 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think he’s yelling “Victor” I think he’s yelling “drifter” like he calls him at the Atoll. Regardless, fantastic video as always and if they ever make a waterworld 2 or tv show and you don’t get offered at least a cameo, I’ll be boycotting it.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I totally agree, it's Drifter, not Victor. My mistake! thanks for the correction LEMON! :)
@cpl.barbarusc4814
@cpl.barbarusc4814 8 ай бұрын
At this point, the Waterworld Behind the scenes has become a gargantuan discovery, especially when having access to a rough cut which is just an impressive find, almost like finding dirt or even there last sheet of paper in Waterworld
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
We just keep diving deeper and deeper! Will we ever reach the bottom!?
@cpl.barbarusc4814
@cpl.barbarusc4814 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll all the way until we reach the ruins of the old world, the original "Dry Land"
@Revolzer
@Revolzer 4 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the fact that the format is a Tv underwater but honestly you should put some waterworld soundtrack as the background music,would fit the video very nicely!
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 4 ай бұрын
Hello Revolzer! The background music in the videos is from the Waterworld soundtrack, it's a chopped and screwed version of the track called "Swimming". If I used full tracks from the movie the videos would get copywrite strikes and I would not be able to make any money from the ads that KZbin runs on my videos.
@Revolzer
@Revolzer 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll oh wow I never realised those annoying ads people hate helps to make money for content creators,that’s interesting
@chriswilson3126
@chriswilson3126 8 ай бұрын
The depth and analysis this channel gives for Waterworld fans is outstanding.
@thetalentof
@thetalentof 5 ай бұрын
Great video and a fascinating insight into what could've been, Helen completely losing it over food had me rolling! I saw on kickstarter there's an upcoming documentary in development for the film's 30th anniversary, hopefully they touch upon some of these variations in the rough cut.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow! I had not heard of an upcoming documentary! I'll have too seek that out.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 5 ай бұрын
Haha, I found the kickstarter. I have to be honest, it sort of seemes like they are copying what I have done here on KZbin for free, for the love of the fandom. I am really surprised they are asking for that much money to create a condensed version of The Atoll channel. Lol, they even used the same background music as my videos. Bless them.
@HistoricNerd
@HistoricNerd 8 ай бұрын
Always a great time watching your videos man.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Thanks HistoricNerd!
@WiseOwl_1408
@WiseOwl_1408 Ай бұрын
Very in-depth. Another banger
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll Ай бұрын
Thank you WiseOwl!
@straingedays
@straingedays 8 ай бұрын
Ulysses reaction to walking on dry land looks like someone who'd never felt soft grass, or stood on a gum-nut, or a prickle that hides within. First thing we dry-lander's do is hobble and hop to one leg, then check our foot, second thing is to brush it off while wondering why something so tiny hurt like it did ?? Thanks for posting this !! ❤
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Haha, well said!
@Is_This_Really_Necessary
@Is_This_Really_Necessary 8 ай бұрын
Man, some of those rough cuts from the battle would have been cool to have in the final film. For the record, I highly recommend adding the adult novelisation of Waterworld to your collection. The Deacon's interactions with Enola are even more creepy than the junior novelisation. (Which is the book you regularly show on your channel.)
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I have both version of the novelization, I have a whole video on them here on the channel. When ever I'm referring to the novelization, it's the adult version in all videos.
@Elektrolurch89
@Elektrolurch89 8 ай бұрын
love your videos man. for 27 minutes the world is all right. greetings from germany
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! Thanks for the pleasant comment!
@ivarlarsen6045
@ivarlarsen6045 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thank you for the video.. Looking forward to the next upload :)
@demanzanop
@demanzanop 8 ай бұрын
The copy I have in my personal collection is the "Ulysses cut" and it has most of the scenes shown here. Almost 3 hrs of movie. a must for every fan
@Waxer3929
@Waxer3929 8 ай бұрын
It's quite good, can confirm
@vampsith
@vampsith 6 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about movies is what could have been, did NOT know that existed with Waterworld
@sneedplays
@sneedplays 8 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this!
@Turmegil
@Turmegil 2 ай бұрын
We need Waterworld Awakenings like a Prequel. Seriously amazing movie and glad to see a fandom
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 2 ай бұрын
Always hoping more Waterworld will happen!
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if somebody at Universal Studios Hollywood had seen the rough cut of *"Waterworld"* and decided to add in the stunt of a Smoker skier crashing (at 10:52) and The Deacon's dialogue of "A pilgrimage for two in Dryland", which was thankfully placed at Helen instead of Enola.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that may have been a hold over from the rough cut. I believe they have toned it down even more in recent years, which I'm all for.
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@TheAtoll Also, the Stunt Show version in Japan also had a scene where after The Deacon fired a rocket with Boomer/Big Bertha at both Ulysses and the last Smoker, the Smoker resurfaced and had a chat with The Deacon. Just then, The Deacon kicks him into the water and then shot him, much like what is seen in both the Rough Cut and Novelization.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 5 ай бұрын
@@JOSH-lw2jv Aww, I did not realize that!
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 5 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll Sorry, they had updated it and that moment with The Deacon shooting the last Smoker is no longer present in Japan's stunt show.
@vanguard6498
@vanguard6498 8 ай бұрын
crabs of hell this was a great video, those were some great shots of the battle.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Haha!
@1995Batman
@1995Batman 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always. What a great selection of interesting shots and lines. Thanks for sharing. So fascinating to know things like this get rightly or wrongly cut out of movies all the time.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, well put Batman. Thanks for dropping by!
@cwbellor
@cwbellor 8 ай бұрын
Nice! I love that montage you made!
@ArmouredSP
@ArmouredSP 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the upload :)
@modelrogers.19
@modelrogers.19 8 ай бұрын
what a gem!!!!
@bookofdaveandsteve
@bookofdaveandsteve 8 ай бұрын
Awesome vid - great work 👍
@CartoonKarma
@CartoonKarma 7 ай бұрын
I always suspected the shot for Point 12 at 7:34 was longer, as the abrupt cut to the Enforcer yelling out "Look!" felt out-of-place, as regards the flow of the editing communicating who he might have been talking to. Not that editing can’t patch up cuts like that with the right sound effects and music, but that one didn't quite. I'm guessing some studio heads (or Costner?) didn't much like the "Crabs of Hell" colloquialism for this floating culture. Number 18 (9:12): For ages I always thought he did jump ship, not only because "duh, other smokers will pick him up in a sec", but it did look like he was turning around and about to jump, so much so I falsely remembered seeing him doing so. Glad to see that was the intended case! Not surprised to see a few more moments of the more depraved aspects of man re: the drifter and the Deacon. We already know from the slave colony subplot getting trimmed from the book to the extended cut to being nearly invisible in the Final Cut that most such aspects were weeded out during production and editing. Number 46 (23:09): Think we all presumed this even before the novel confirmed this, given the public cuts just make it seem like he found a stray jet-ski by chance. I'm surprised it didn't also have the part of him murdering Jack Black's pilot character from the novel, though that was possibly cut before this assembly or not filmed at all. In any case, Deacon yelling out "Pilot!" as he approaches the skyboat remaining in the film leaves a minor inconsistency error (plus, if the pilot was just waiting in the plane, why couldn't he have snuck up on the Mariner as he was talking to the Deacon/preparing to drop the flare?). Otherwise, most cuts were wise, and a few were curios that better explain a small moment or characterisation but I can understand why they hit the cutting room floor for pacing and runtime reasons and not having "too much" world building for that casual summer movie audience. Though some of those curios would have been better choices to splice back in for the TV cut that eventually became the Ulysses cut than a lot of the needling padding it did get. Thanks for the interesting insight! Thought the channel had been running out of content to mine for videos with the lower rate lately, so glad to see this as its first entry for 2024.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 7 ай бұрын
Wow! I never picked up on the "Pilot!" line from the Deacon! I had to go back and rewatch the scene, and you're absolutely correct, it's in audio mix! I am almost positive that a scene of the Deacon murdering Jack Black's character was probably shot, but it was not in this rough cut because this cut was only composed of photography in Hawaii, everything shot in California is missing. Great comment here! Thanks for sharing your insight.
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 2 ай бұрын
I wished they kept the shot of The Deacon shouting "Fire!" at 18:18 in either the Theatrical or Ulysses Cut, which was present in the film's Teaser Trailer (narrated by Darth Vader & Mufasa himself, James Earl Jones).
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 2 ай бұрын
Oh, wow! I don't think I realized James Earl Jones did the narration for the Teaser, but your right, it's definitely his voice!
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv Ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll RIP to James Earl Jones, who sadly passed away on the 9th of September this year.
@DJGUNDAM
@DJGUNDAM 6 ай бұрын
Man i love these videos!
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm almost finished the script for the next one, so keep an eye out for a new video soon!
@shortfilms5667
@shortfilms5667 8 ай бұрын
Wow never thought I'd see that ❤ amazingly interesting! And the mariner's gills look... off 😂
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
HAha!!!!
@DL404
@DL404 8 ай бұрын
Unbelievable.. I can't believe someone had the rough cut and didn't seek you out earlier.. crabs of hell. ..
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Quite the find!!!
@TheSmartestManonEarth
@TheSmartestManonEarth 8 ай бұрын
Here we are again
@stevescholz9196
@stevescholz9196 8 ай бұрын
sweet mate.
@StilledFox
@StilledFox 8 ай бұрын
This was such a treasure, being able to see any new footage of Waterworld was amazing! It’s such an atmospheric and immersive world, I love it. Thank you so much for sharing the rough cut with us. :) I love the guy getting shot in the dick with the flaming arrow. 😂 I wish we got to see more of below deck on the Trimaran.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it!
@mlk22
@mlk22 3 ай бұрын
Too bad they removed the darker subplot of the Deacon being into kids.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 3 ай бұрын
for real? gross
@mlk22
@mlk22 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheAtollpardon?
@LeoTheLion17
@LeoTheLion17 8 ай бұрын
Awesome
@Mr.Death101
@Mr.Death101 8 ай бұрын
What was the total budget of this film and how did they whittle it down to a rough cut that must have been a 250 million rough cut right there that is insane
@oosbeckanderson3199
@oosbeckanderson3199 8 ай бұрын
I think the movie costed 175 millions total (not counting inflation), the most expensive film at the time. But as the host mentionned, this was made out scans of the real negatives, so it's not stuff they shot just for the rought cut. It's just that whatever they used to digitize the negatives for the rought cut was not great, hence the terrible image quality. Probably costed nothign if Universal already had the machines.
@wh00lio-goolay76
@wh00lio-goolay76 8 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Anyway we could get access to the full rough cut?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Hit up the channel email and I will help you out :)
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 8 ай бұрын
I know that Priam was seen gunned down by Smokers in the Extended Cut, but I wonder what happened to the other Atoll Elder leaders? The ones I'm referring to were played by Sab Shimono (from *"TMNT III"),* Leonardo Cimino (from *"DUNE 1984"),* and the female Elder who tries to offer a young girl to The Mariner - before they discover he's a "Mutation" - and later in the Extended Cut seconds the vote on getting rid of both The Mariner and Enola. Was it possible that they all got killed by the Smokers as they push through the enormous gaping hole, caused by the Smoker's Kamakazi Boat?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's true, you never see the elders again after the Atoll battle breaks out.
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what happened to those three boys that the Mariner first met as he docked on Oasis the Atoll (and - during the Extended Cut - is then bullied by two of them in his prison cage)?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yes! It's the same gang of boys that keep popping up. One of them is smaller/younger than the others and a little more timid, and if you watch the extended cut very closely, you will see Helen giving him a cross bow during the Atoll battle.
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll Oh I know that, but I was wondering if they ever managed to escape from "Oasis" or were captured/killed by the Smokers.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
@@JOSH-lw2jv Hmmm, I'll have to take another look and see if I can find anything!
@shortfilms5667
@shortfilms5667 8 ай бұрын
Now I appreciate the theatrical cut more. It was probably the best and quickest version. Even if the Ulysses cut is very interesting too
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
100% agree. Theatrical cut is my go-to
@CartoonKarma
@CartoonKarma 7 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll Given the TV Cut added back in most of the 40-odd minutes to have almost 3 hours of footage as a TV event, and the Ulysses cut is just it with the for-PG censored moments restored, I've always though an ideal version of the film would be partway between the Theatrical and Ulysses cut. Taking the most crucial scenes from the latter - the atoll meeting, the extended aftermath of the atoll battle of the Smokers' counting their spoils and the Deacon's evolution speech, the Mariner splitting from the new Atoll and heading back alone to realise the connection on the Nat Geo magazines (a crucial character arc moment, him giving up and moving on briefly rather compromised), the Ulysses and Mt. Everest bits at the end - plus some other small additional moments and shots that are quite useful. But not retain much of the fluffy padding that harms the film more than helps it. Plus the rearranging that, among other things, spoils the Deez reveal that you noted in a prior video. And also cut some unnecessary shots and moments still in the theatrical cut (they removed all the slave colony mentions and closeups, but kept Helen lowering the magnifying glass to the slave below, then silently gasping? Uh, bit clumsy). I've thus always thought there is a platonic Best Cut of the film possible that would likely only be slightly longer than the Theatrical (still under 2.5 hours) and flow even better. Maybe something for a fan editor someday.
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 19 күн бұрын
I think the Rough Cut of *"WATERWORLD"* probably would've given the film an R-rating if they had kept the scenes of The Deacon being a creep over Enola.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 19 күн бұрын
Yeah, for sure.
@josephmontanaro2350
@josephmontanaro2350 6 ай бұрын
Hey i apologise if ive asked this before but whats the soundtrack yall use for the intro and other parts of the video? I feel like i either asked before or you mentioned it in a video but my memory sucks lol
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 6 ай бұрын
The intro is from the waterworld nes game, the atmospheric song used in most of my videos is the track "swimming" from the film score (but sort of chopped up to avoid cw), and the song in the body of this video is a song that was written for the film but was cut (it can be found on the limited edition cd of the waterworld score)
@Torque2100
@Torque2100 8 ай бұрын
This rough cut and the constant references by the Deacon to doing nasty things to Enola have got me thinking. Was Waterworld originally intended to have an R rating?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Hmmm, it's a good point! I am not sure! Maybe this is why Kevin Reynolds left the project in post, because he wanted to make a darker r-rated film. You can definitely see traces of it in the rough cut.
@Torque2100
@Torque2100 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll It is inspired by the Road Warrior and Mad Max was never shy about the gore and sex.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
@@Torque2100 Mad Max was R rated, something to keep in mind.
@iyasugames
@iyasugames 8 ай бұрын
This would have been a very different film with this edit. Several dark turns I don't think would be appropriate for kids, which I was when I first saw this. As an adult, I can appreciate that they were thinking of not shying away from adding some darker scenes to highlight just how bad a destroyed world could be
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yes good point, it does seem that the film, at times, had two different visions for what it should be. And funny enough, the film also essentially had two different directors, both named Kevin. More on all this in a future video!
@iyasugames
@iyasugames 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll Nice can't wait!
@NotAGarage
@NotAGarage 8 ай бұрын
We need a watch along or break down of different scenes 👍💪🙏
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Oooo! Good idea!
@JOSH-lw2jv
@JOSH-lw2jv 19 күн бұрын
Was there ever a moment in the Rough Cut that showed the fate of the Skyboat Pilot (Jack Black) like in the Novelization (where he was shot by The Deacon while kidnapping Enola)?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 19 күн бұрын
It's quite possible it was shot and didn't make it into this version of the rough cut. The rough cut presented in this video was put together before any of the scenes on the deck of the Deez were shot, it's only comprised of principle photography captured in Hawaii. So, almost the entire climax of the film aboard the Deez is missing here.
@nostalgiainjection8867
@nostalgiainjection8867 8 ай бұрын
Great video
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Nostalgia!
@oosbeckanderson3199
@oosbeckanderson3199 8 ай бұрын
Seeing The Mariner swimming in the rought cut, I *Really* get the feeling they were going for a dolphin-like style to show his amphibian nature. Unfortunately, human body don't have the same grace when moving under water.😅 As for stuff like Helen and the Drifter's "half-hour" and the Bishops's p*do undertones in the earlier stages of productions, it's actually NOT that surprinsing to me? Swabuckling films often have quite morbid moments that come out of nowhere to keep the movie serious despite all the heroic actions. "Flesh and Blood" had some very explicit sex and gore, the 90's "Zorro" film was explicit in the torture slaves received, human sacrifices to be stopped galore in movies without explicit blood, etc. I must also mentions Indiana Jones seduced Marion (his future wife after some on-and-off drama) when she was a teenager and he was in his twenties. (hinted in the first film, confirmed in side material)...😬 It took the 1990s for books/movies to stop having characters just casually show interest in underage girls and it being treated as a minor details, hence why I think the "Waterworld" film ended up dropping the plot point entirely; it was in a middle of a cultural shift.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Yes, this is good context here. Certainly not trying to cancel the film or anything, I simply see it as a product of its time and I am commenting and reflecting on it as that. Also, yep, hard to make a human look super strong and awesome while underwater! Haha :)
@GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE
@GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE 7 ай бұрын
Cool
@LawnXMowerXGaming
@LawnXMowerXGaming 7 ай бұрын
I think the parallel with The Atoll and the world of Waterworld is very interesting. Waterworld being a cult classic flop, there is very very little content regarding this movie. The Atoll has managed to stretch out the movie and extra media to create a thriving and engaging KZbin channel. However, there exists the inevitable truth. With the Waterworld content well drying up with each upload, The Atoll channel, much like the atoll society in the film, is dying. Hopefully, we can get our own dry land with a new movie or tv show to keep the our interest in this film alive.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 7 ай бұрын
Love this comment Lawnx! And yes, it is true, we are about 5 videos away from the end of Waterworld coverage on this channel (I keep a master list of all topics I want to hit). Yeah, hopefully something new will come out. I am dreading that the next big waterworld news will be the closing of the stunt show. But yeah, will see what the future of the channel will be!
@LawnXMowerXGaming
@LawnXMowerXGaming 7 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll oh man. Mr. Atoll. I just want to let you know how much I love your channel. Never before have I encountered someone so dedicated to a project that’s been discarded by time. Your channel has gotten me through many hours of stomach and cold pain, and I’ve listened to the Waterworld audio book on your channel at work probably 10 times by now. The intro and aesthetics used in your channel are so unique and comfortable. I’m so glad I discovered this channel, and learned to love a film which I thought I had dreamed. I almost wish you had picked a topic with more longevity, that way your talent and dedication as a KZbinr could shine on forever. But what you’ve done for waterworld couldn’t have been done by anyone else, at least not in the same quality. As an aspiring writer, I’d be satisfied in my career decision if anyone was half as dedicated to my work as you are to waterworld
@garyslwong7677
@garyslwong7677 7 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll Perhaps you can do your own fan-sequel to the Waterworld on this channel if the rumored TV series is still forever rumoring. With ai, the story graphics can be easily created and you just need to read out the story you wrote.
@st0nercat
@st0nercat 8 ай бұрын
Yayyyyyyyy🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😺
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Stonercat! Always a pleasure seeing you in the comments!
@Turmegil
@Turmegil 2 ай бұрын
Also is there an extended edition anyone has found digitally? Or simply in disc form
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 2 ай бұрын
At the moment, only on disc. The Arrow BluRay release from 2019 and the DVD release from 2008.
@mangomation3945
@mangomation3945 8 ай бұрын
I definitely think this copy of the workprint seems to have had the final opening/credits spliced in after the fact by whoever got their hands on it. There's a video of a russian-overdubbed bootleg of the workprint out there that covers more of the ending without cutting to the theatrical footage. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJ-WZ5Sndqaie5o
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Wow excellent digging here! Yeah, thank you for linking off to that bootleg, that is the official end of the rough cut. Good stuff!
@bmandibles
@bmandibles 8 ай бұрын
So how much has the movie had an influence on you going to Ocean? You been doing any spearfishing or boating or stuff like that?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
I have always loved sailing and the ocean. I live on the coast of New England and work for a boating technology company, so yeah, I am all about the maritime stuff for sure!
@Krylovix
@Krylovix 8 ай бұрын
Where does one find this work print and others? Most links are for forums requesting trades
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Hit up the channel email and I will try to help you
@Krylovix
@Krylovix 8 ай бұрын
What's your email? One in description is without a domain.​@@TheAtoll
@demanzanop
@demanzanop 8 ай бұрын
5:47 I think he says "Cuanto tiempo vive aqui? No habla poliglota?". This means something like "How long have you been living here? You don't speak Polyglot?", but spoken like an Irish talking in bad Spanish. Maybe it's "cuanto tiempo viene aqui?", meaning "How long have you been coming here?". In both cases a more correct way would be "Hace cuanto vives/vienes aqui"; the time is implicit.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Aw okay! Thank you for the extra clarity here.
@demanzanop
@demanzanop 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll love your videos, thank you so much for the amazing work done on this channel. u da best
@ActionFence
@ActionFence 7 ай бұрын
I need to see this version! Any way to do so?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 7 ай бұрын
Hit up the channel email, I'll try to help out!
@itsnodawayitustabe5654
@itsnodawayitustabe5654 21 күн бұрын
Top Rouch Cuts lost to time Thin Red Line Waterworld Blade Runner
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 19 күн бұрын
You know what, I have never seen Thin Red Line!
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 4 ай бұрын
Hey buddy 👋🐢
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 4 ай бұрын
Hello Green Koopa!
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 4 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll in the Capt quarters Deacs line to Enola read to me like he wanted to 💀 her, but the girlfriend line was upsetting to hear 😂
@thedrunkenfish5855
@thedrunkenfish5855 6 ай бұрын
One of my main motivations to become mega rich is to pump life into the water world franchise !!! C’mon netfix, hbo, Amazon !!!! U guys pump hundreds of millions into complete garbage when a franchise like water world would have a huge built in Fanbase along with already interesting lore so the potential is ridiculous from the get go. Netflix & universal already work together so why not ?!?
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a shame. And i think Netflix is starting to cut back on a lot of those franchise reboot projects, so it seems even more unlikely now.
@chudleycannonfodder
@chudleycannonfodder 8 ай бұрын
Came here from macaw
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 8 ай бұрын
Heck yeah! Welcome!
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat 5 ай бұрын
I don't think side boob constitutes "full frontal" lol.
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 5 ай бұрын
Well, yeah, in hindsight, that may have been an exaggeration when I was writing the script for this one. I think I actually meant to go back and change that, but forgot. It happens, these videos are long and somewhat complicated to create and I have made mistakes before. Perhaps I will do a corrections video at some point!
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat 5 ай бұрын
@@TheAtoll Lol, well Rat Man forgive you... THIS TIME! 😆
@franklinv543
@franklinv543 6 ай бұрын
"Promo sm" 😡
@TheAtoll
@TheAtoll 6 ай бұрын
Nope
@jordanmagpiebullet7978
@jordanmagpiebullet7978 7 ай бұрын
Hey lone time no see hope you are doing good also sorry for not dm you on Instagram yet been busy
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