The Authenticity of LANA DEL REY

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[@palemoonlight96]

Do a new video on Lana plss 😭😍 she grew miles as a songwriter since that video and her albums Honeymoon, NFR and Ocean Boulevard are lyrical masterpieces and deserve a proper analysis by your channel, love your videos!

[@wonderland4515]

Idk why people were so annoyed by her creating a stage name. Many famous faces have stage names

[@Ilonah83]

Yep. Ziggy Stardust? Also Prince's different names later...

[@olivia-yy5nk]

Right? Katy Perry, Lady Gaga... smh

[@bli3859]

I think it's the fact that she tried to pass it off as real and authentic. People have this funny habit of getting pissed off and disliking people who give the notion of being authentic and sincere when they are not.

[@kebabmarley2505]

how many them get a fake nose, change their name, and try to erase their past lol

[@olivia-yy5nk]

@@kebabmarley2505 That's how you get successful

[@user-fd5st7tg8n]

feels like im watching a documentary of a dead celebrity who was alive about 50 yrs ago

[@nicestar2198]

seriously same she is such a legend

[@wolfhawk1999]

She seems like a celebrity that was before my time, but she's not

[@soapspill4135]

IKRRRRRR

[@talamajed7054]

🏹 BAHAHHAHA

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

She's self entitled. She thinks she's better than everyone else which isn't even true. She holds other singers inferior to her even though she can't sing without autotune. Plus her fanbase is toxic af. When Billie won all those grammys, all the lana fans were at her throat. Y'all need to calm down. Not you specifically but like your while fandom.

[@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603]

People: damn she is using a fake name?! Every rapper ever has left the chat

[@StoicFC]

Lana is not a rapper though

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

It’s not just rappers. A lot of singers take up a fake name as well. Take Stromae for example.

[@satori4183]

And David Bowie, Bob Dylan, Elton John, etc etc

[@houseofbaIlons]

Carin Monier She just wants people to call her by Lana. Why do people have such a problem with that?

[@heppolo]

If only Stromae was as hyped as the industry plant that is Lana Del Rey.

[@makadray]

I mean, people praised Gaga for her persona and her odd and otherworldly fashion. I’ll never understand why Lana got such a hard time. You do what you have to do to make it, you find what works and you go with that.

[@zecele4902]

Y'know, in my country people used to say that Gaga was satanic, women in the musical industry have to deal with a lot of bullshit, sigh :(

[@princesshissa6781]

Maybe Lana has it harder because she’s a Scorpio ascendant?

[@lorenasivan9140]

have we all gone gaga crazy? i love gaga too tho

[@JM-ft8lw]

The Makadray Gaga at the start of her career was scrutinised as an attention seeking, crazed madonna copout who secretly had a penis. It took time for both women

[@joea-r7983]

@@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen why do you feel the need to reply under every comment about how much you hate her, all your accusations of racism and inability to sing are simply untrue and there's evidence to disagree with you. wheres your evidence? what makes her racist? is it the fact that she constantly works with and supports black artists on songs? or is it the fact that shes donating the profits of her upcoming poetry book to Native American reparation organizations? You spread so much hate from the sadness inside of you, yet your claims are unsupported and untrue. Do not tell people 'Let me help you understand' when your only comments are solely opinionated. The hatred in your heart is a personal problem which YOU need to sort out.

[@nimigeorge8089]

Lana sings like she's lived on earth for thousands of years

[@bigol9223]

The demon possessing Del Rey probably has

[@bronktug2446]

She’d know about music if that were the case.

[@JH-kw8zy]

THIS.

[@kriticosART]

Not really. I can sing like a have no motivation as well. That's how people who can't sing sing

[@JH-kw8zy]

@@kriticosART 🚨 lol woop woop hater alert!

[@KateKatastrophe]

She Marilyn Monroed herself, I can respect that.

[@caleidoo]

So sending out the message to other girls/women that changing your look to a porn star to get your career going is a good thing?

[@maddie4347]

@@caleidoo Maybe we should look less into that and more into the fact that that's what it takes to be seen and heard. Why does someone need to be fake to be heard? Why are they ignored when they are real? When those who are real stop getting ignored, I'll come back to your statement with some consideration of it's validity.

[@ClassyGyal]

@@caleidoo who's a porn star? Who looks like a porn star? Not Lana or Marilyn, are you ok? You're on the wrong video, this isn't about Cardi B or Nicki Minaj, stop the Bs.

[@DarkAngelEU]

@@maddie4347 Come to Europe!

[@SeraphimxSins]

@@maddie4347 Here's the thing though, how do you know if it's fake? In Elizabeth's case at least, her Lana persona stems from a core part of her. Thus making it rather authentic/real to her. Such is the case with many performers and celebs. What they show you isn't necessarily fake, at least not entirely. Oftentimes, it's a particular aspect of themselves that is just singled out and gets made the focus of their professional identity. Other times, it's their entire selves, just exaggerated.

[@HarleyQuinnWuzHere]

Lana’s always had a certain aesthetic. Born to die just allowed her to expand it

[@jaimetorres7161]

Daddy’s marketing budget and the marketing made her aesthetic, she was nothing like that when her name wasn’t even Lana del rey

[@mariamabah4380]

I never knew she had so much hate, I've just always loved her

[@nijohn12]

omg yes especially after her infamous SNL performance people called her a fraud and a drug addict and a media puppet. Like snl had to make a follow-up skit because people were calling her THE WORST SNL musical guest ever :( yah girl had it hard

[@PianoVampire]

@@isolationqueen-thesilverli4055 She was superb when I saw her live...

[@1cherryp0p1]

@@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen get help she’s not even racist tf

[@magnolia4147]

Maybe she’s racist or not I’m not one to say,but when she got the hate for snl she hadn’t said anything remotely racist. Ur point makes no sense

[@magnolia4147]

@@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen Maybe she’s racist or not I’m not one to say,but when she got the hate for snl she hadn’t said anything remotely racist. Ur point makes no sense

[@lynsroom4808]

idk why but i get so emotional when i think of lana del rey. her sound reminds me of a summer night and her whole aesthetic is so nostalgic

[@user-hl4zw3df1b]

gordon ramsey facts

[@edwardmendezz]

gordon ramsey yes nostalgic

[@raia3247]

I feeeeeeel

[@youknowwhatyoureabsolutely4307]

That’s the things she’s trying to evoke emotion. She paints a vivid picture.

[@Steve_Mazza]

Well, that was the idea. She tapped into something that really connects with people. Credit where credit is due.

[@rubywhitfield2881]

Lana had horrible stage fright and anxiety before the SNL performance, plus she was singing low. I saw her last April, and it was absolutely amazing. She has improved so much.

[@jessicacroteau5600]

Artists like David Bowie are praised for reinventing themselves and having stage personas but Lana is called 'inauthentic' for doing the same thing. If she can deliver a feeling and aesthetic as Lana that she couldn't as Lizzie, then I think that's true artistry and that it makes the music more genuine.

[@Revealingstorm.]

Well those were characters. He didn't change his name from David Bowie to Bavid Dowie and try to make people forget his other music existed. It's a bit disingenuous to compare the two.

[@jessicacroteau5600]

Bowie was really David Robert Jones and he used to perform as Davy Jones in the 1960's but changed his stage name to David Bowie because he wanted to. And I know that he considered his personas characters. What I meant in my comparison was that as performers they can choose to express different parts of themselves and tell a story. I don't think it makes them any less authentic because the music and the performance still comes from them. David Bowie created personas to reflect different stages in his life and the changes in the world around him. For example, he started performing as the Thin White Duke after dealing with cocaine abuse and living in West Berlin. I don't know whether or not Lana was trying to be deceptive by taking down her old music or just trying to get a fresh start, or whether or not she's being manipulated by her management, but I won't criticize her for how she chooses to perform or express herself.

[@Aly_224]

Jessica Croteau he changed it to David Bowie bc there is already a Davy Jones

[@lexman7179]

To be fair a lot of people thought that Bowie was inauthentic back in the 70's. It was only in the 90's that he started to be seen as a musical legend.

[@sannysal3204]

How can you put Lana Del Rey in the same sentence of David Bowie ffs...

[@k_a_y_l_e_e]

in 50 years, people will realize she was a genius.

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

But for now she is a self privileged racist

[@iaminconstantpain9524]

@@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen You're so desperate to get your point across, you reply to literally every comment with your negativity. I'm not saying that what she did was right but damn, we get it.

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

@@iaminconstantpain9524 lololol. I'm just looking for attention. I'm bored. Lana maies great music and I live her oofoofooofooofooofofofoof

[@dyxtopia6775]

@@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen Look for attention somewhere else. Stop spreading your negativity, it's not doing you much good

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

@@dyxtopia6775 wow. Its crazy people are still trying after 2 months. I don't think its me that has to move on cause I already have.

[@alexawilsonartvideos]

The pop world is so brutal to women, she is simply a great artist. That's it. Let her be that.

[@evillolipop2704]

Alexa Wilson YESSSSS!

[@evillolipop2704]

Beantown omfg no wrong. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIGse55mgrCGja8 Fake vocals I think not sis, she sounds way better live to me..even if she’s doing a cover for a song like this one. It takes good lungs to hold a note like that.

[@pepita3467]

Theres an snl live you can watch that would make you disagree, she does post about trump tho lmao

[@elissaa3404]

🙌

[@user-gu9zm1vy1k]

@@pepita3467 Girl shut up, the SNL thing was over 7 years ago. Now she performs better, is comfartable and got used to it. Stay pressed. NFR AOTY. Period.

[@taylorah6409]

Marylin Monroe wasn't a real person until Norma Jean created her. just sayin.

[@pay4739]

Taylor AH trueeee

[@3amDayDreamer]

💯💯

[@edoboleyn]

Neither were John Wayne or Kanye West. Women are just subjected to a greater degree of scrutiny and more vulnerable to accusations of “inauthenticity.” I don’t think Del Rey is less authentic than, say, Taylor Swift.

[@daniel-jb2xz]

Mere C what? She’s far more authentic than Taylor Swift

[@miguelcervera8730]

OMFG, this's so deep:o

[@hayhay5159]

All she did was grow, and change her name. I don't understand the hate. She admits her past, and she is happy to move forward but still be the same person. I don't understand why people get mad

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

Ya. She grew.... Grew into an absolute racist bitch. She thinks she's so better than everyone else yet she can't even sing. She's just a horrible person. I used to like her but then I realized what a horrible role model she was.

[@bbleffect976]

Tyler Hershey you’re just looking for drama and you don’t even put efforts to search about Lana herself. and you’re really calling a person racist that chose a black rapper as president in her music video? better learn about her than say baseless stuff like this

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

@@bbleffect976 OH YA? WELL I THINK ELSA IS MY QUEEN AND SHE MADE AFROS ILLEGAL!

[@krishna-dp1hd]

Tyler Hershey stfu go stream your trash poppy songs brainless bitch

[@donnagoldstein5259]

@@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen gurl she can sing tf

[@LoloTheModel]

Born To Die literally changed my life when I first heard it in high school. It will forever be my favourite album because of the nostalgic feeling I get when I hear those songs. I never knew about her controversial past and never cared about the drama I did hear. This is a woman who writes and produces her own music, has stayed out of mainstream scandal culture, speaks openly about her political beliefs, and frankly gets better every year. I wish more people could see her as the incredible artist and vocalist that she is, rather than being labeled an indie singer for teenagers. Also this girlie can PERFORM! I saw her in 2018 and it was better than anything I had expected!

[@ColeMelly]

right in i can remember many weekend nights sophomore year listening to this after getting baked with my best friend. where did it go

[@josiahperea5062]

Yeah everyone has bad pasts sometimes but she is queen period

[@SidVacant69]

I remember seeing her live back in 2015, flower crowns everywhere lol. I missed when summer time sadness played on the radio

[@Nelmel2007]

Lana del rey is an absolute queen period.

[@sethparker3381]

People may consider her faux-indie, but it was artists like her, Florence, and Foster the People that got me into indie in the first place.

[@jaredf6205]

Indie is really a genre nowadays and less about the record lable. I'd say it's definitely indie music.

[@VictoriaSobocki]

Good call

[@tpete096]

they're all pop...

[@whizzardblizzard5696]

Tim Peterson Shout louderrrrr!

[@tpete096]

@@whizzardblizzard5696 THEY'RE ALL POP!?

[@jullianducut9680]

She studied philosopy so that explains all (Meant as a compliment)

[@ilovmyselfbcilovetheuniverse]

@Beantown rude

[@ginasalsabila7772]

Beantown whats wrong with u

[@alexandrucristian8797]

Actually, she studied physics

[@mrxse]

Beantown lmao get a life

[@fil4648]

Okay dude, that's very insightful.

[@cabau3876]

Like Ru Paul says "we’re all born naked, the rest is drag." So authenticity is relative.

[@mrsclark78]

THIS

[@Papa_Mateo]

Theresa river love Ru!!!

[@uhuraenterprise6372]

That is so true

[@musicmusic8076]

i mean they still came for laganja so

[@lucreceanazar872]

first favorite comment

[@nameisamine]

She was so hated and now everyone wants to act likes she’s an icon who was loved all along and deserved AOTY at the 2020 Grammys.

[@Jeremyskye]

Periodt

[@faye_isc]

i never jumped into the band wagon of hating her and im soo proud to myself that i stand up and get bullied for liking her cuz shes truly.. an ICON ♥️♥️♥️💎

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

She didn't deserve shit. She can write songs but that's all she's got. She can't sing. Plus she is the most horrible person. She is so self entitled she honestly thinks She's better than every other singer. Plus she's racist. And no one likes a racist.

[@rangeramarilla7301]

FACTS

[@rangeramarilla7301]

@@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen racist someone who made a BLACK man play as the usa president during the past century, in a music video dropped in 2012/13, when the blm movement wasn't even born yet, and the media didn't even care for black people representation???? okay, someone seems totally misinformed...

[@cooper712]

Love her or hate her, Lana has had one of the most significant effects on pop music this decade.

[@cooper712]

Jessica Buttgereit sis you can read multiple interviews in which Lorde said Lana was one of the most influential artists in shaping Pure Heroine and Royals. Lorde cited Lana and Kanye as her biggest influences for that project. Not to bash lorde I absolutely love her, and she certainly helped popularize it, but Lana largely started this style of singing and brought this sort of somber pop into the mainstream

[@alexanderlove6595]

no she didn't thats an opinion and shes not that good. i haven't even hear of her music until a few moths ago and shes trash she cant perform and has no talent

[@frompina]

Lorde did.

[@alexanderlove6595]

@Jessica Buttgereit lol he literally is making shit up

[@CorbCorbin]

Jessica Buttgereit That’s a bit shortsighted. They are contemporaries, whether you like Del Ray or not. You are a perfect example, of how divisive both of their music is. You’ll hear some Del Ray fans, state the same things about Lorde, as your comment did about Del Ray. You really believe Lorde is the more authentic? That’s your opinion, and it really doesn’t matter what Lorde or Del Ray thinks about it either, as both have very rabid fans, who will argue for who they believe is more influential.

[@dianaaa6244]

I don't listen to her music but everyone has to know and admit this woman has her own and original style and aesthetic, she is unique.

[@RedceLL1978]

Yeah, NO.

[@maserati-ig2zp]

@@RedceLL1978 no. YEAH

[@aarishowton8037]

Joshua Jones if that’s the case please point me to more artists like her, because I’ve yet to find them.

[@ryanchien1173]

Joshua Jones maybe not but u got to give it to her she uses historical references of bombshells and tropes of sad girls is very very smart

[@bli3859]

She rips her style and aesthetic from old movies, and she's gotten plastic surgery to help her pull off her look. Kudos to her for finding a style and image she's comfortable with, but lets not go over board and say she's unique or original. One can find more relevant and sincere things to praise about her, we don't need to make shit up.

[@solhillarylobo1980]

She's demonstrated her autenticity by allowing herself the exercise of trial and error with her music carreer. I'm so thankful she did that. Creatively, changes are always praised. I believe in that.

[@aziara369]

Looove this comment very much. I do agree! ✨

[@kclo]

I work in the film industry and have shot countless music videos. Lana is one of the kindest people I have worked with. Most people are professional, a few terrible to work with, but I've never seen anyone but Lana sit and talk with the set medic about his kids. She had in-depth conversations with most crew members, asking what their next jobs would be. She also wanted to be present for all creative decisions. She stayed for lighting set ups and decided not to have a second team (body double) for shots. She politely told the director that she had hired him to interpret her vision so she would be a part of all of the conversations. And she was.

[@HarvestGremlin]

this comment definitely warmed my heart. thank you so much for providing us with a glimpse into a window of how lana conducts herself when shes working. amazing :')

[@kclo]

@@HarvestGremlin I actually ran into her on set again a few months ago. She was hanging out during her friend’s music video and was helping with some art department DIY. I chatted with her a bit and she is still incredibly sweet and humble. 👍

[@samperry1443]

Lana's persona is definitely manufactured, but she manufactured this persona herself (with help, ofc). Her music and imagery are intended to be highly romanticized surreal exaggerative fantasies, fantasy art worlds which carry on to her essence and persona. Is Lana's art intended as a product? Maybe, but it is still art. Isn't the point of art to take our minds to alternate planes and provoke emotion/responses? I think celebrity culture and our nosiness towards personal lives have made us forget the difference between the celebrity and the artist. It is ok for an artist to lie, to feed us illusion for the sake of art - and it is also ok for their public existence to be an extension of their work. I personally find that sort of devotion intriguing and respectable, and doubt Lana would have maintained this long if she was not invested in being an artist.

[@elvillivle]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@cherries_and_wine]

Yes! Lana del Rey is NOT Elizabeth Grant! Lana is so obviously a character, an extention of her music. But somehow people want to believe, that it's her real persona, and get angry, when they realise the truth. It's like getting angry at actor, that his not the same in the real live, as his character. Maybe that's because Lana's never out of character

[@randomalienfrommars0567]

You explained it so well! Thank you

[@sophiadykes2833]

exactly right!

[@ivyshaolin2333]

i think the aspects come from real struggles from her life, things she likes, it’s still her.

[@kazaloolovesgames]

I feel like people just wanted to take her down for whatever reason. The music speaks for itself. That is the most important thing.

[@cambodiaremyzero]

compliment taken.....and shared. widely ;)

[@paablomedinar]

PERIODT

[@jayy2949]

I don't like her cuz of the wearing a headdress in ride video and putting on a Hispanic name cuz it's pretty but my being Native and Hispanic gets me called a wet back and cops literally yell at me to go back to the reservation and I wasn't doing anything illegal actually I was the one filling the complaint, but I want to listen to her music, I love deeper voices, think it's cool she writes her own songs and studied what she did in college, I want to listen to her but for those reasons above I can't

[@blonde__lemonade3143]

@@jayy2949 she apologized for wearing native headdress and the Hispanic name I think it's more like a cultural appreciation if you listen to her songs you'll know she loves Hispanic culture

[@ImAgentK]

@@jayy2949 It’s not a Hispanic name it’s just a Spanish name. And she is white, and Spanish originated in Spain a European country and Europeans are white yes you have black and other ethnicities but you get the point. And Hispanics didn’t always speak Spanish.

[@apullcan]

Dude the atmosphere in this video kicks ass. Glad you’re back!

[@Larissa-sd8uk]

Y’all realize Bruno Mars, Katy perry and like 90% of other artists don’t use their real name

[@mjdorian7312]

As a Lana fan since the Born to Die album I have always been curious about the questions of authenticity. You maneuvered answering those questions with grace and journalistic integrity. Thank you!

[@briantrend1812]

maybe but its pointless, shes a great singer with great tunes that's all that matters . rather authenticate the other garbage we have on our lefty peabrain radio stations . she can pout her lips like an old time movie star all she wants, I will still jerk off! if the tune is great and her tunes are great that's all that matters . have you seen and heard the unauthentic shit out there and nobody breaks that down just shows the level of mentality out there today. shes great shes timeless her tunes are great shes authentic .

[@briantrend1812]

lets think for ourselves people .........

[@briantrend1812]

I think you should totally not make any more videos cause u switched the tigers off very quickly

[@mjdorian7312]

Honestly, I was considering the authenticity thing only because I recognized the 'push' she was getting. Whenever a record company gives an artist a push it usually involves moving a few hundred thousand dollars to get media to fall in sync. She has a very distinctive visual aesthetic and her music really beautifully paints a world. Would you blame me for being a little doubtful whether it was all her own creation? I'm interested in looking behind the curtain because I'm a musician / producer. Either way, it all comes from a place of respect though, I'm a fan either way. @@briantrend1812

[@jasonscott7527]

@@briantrend1812 Google her live performances i like her but THE GIRL CANT SING .

[@D34DParadise]

Even if she is a manufactured pop star or not, I feel she adds something interesting to the mainstream that is particularly resonant in today’s homogenised pop climate. I’m also a sucker for 1950s and 60s Americana so Lana is right up my alley.

[@briantrend1812]

well said matt too many technical gullible peabrains getting critical on these comments or raving about video production ZZZzzzz the woman can sing shes lovely and man those songs , tunes are fucking outstanding . I cant even hear beyonce because her big arse is in the way. Shit music is endless these days and nobody breaks it down in any form, good or bad?. one of the downsides of being on the internet is too many young people getting bogged down with pointless shit like leftism and communism that is parasitical and destroys everything and creates NOTHING...... then afterwards communistglobalism Genocides you, YOU included! just like the 200 million innocent men, women and innocent children they brutely murdered in Russia and china. yes that's what they have in mind for us in the West NOT ON MY WATCH commie losers. commies certainly don't like Lana's music that's for sure . That other shite is what they have in mind for you to break society down. Cultural Marxism is for GULLIBLE WEAK LOSERS who cant think for themselves and have no taste of their own

[@aliciatargaryen]

Ohmygosh I love bauhaus! You have good taste in music ~

[@D34DParadise]

Alice Barbiestein _Bela Lugosi’s Dead_ _Undead, Undead, Undead_ Haha yeah I love Bauhaus as well, thanks 👍.

[@samtays]

that literally summed me UP whew i relate

[@wakeupandsmelltherain6351]

Brian Trend you sound like Alex Jones

[@mindrolling24]

LISTEN to ‘Ride’ if you seriously in doubt that this musician is talented.

[@annieclover]

My favorite song💓

[@moon_card]

Or absolutely any one of her songs...

[@i.destiny]

That song is everything!

[@cambodiaremyzero]

hey, i adore her, but she had very little to do with that particular song ;)

[@pn1188]

She writes them. Other celebs have 16 song writers and a whole team for everything

[@tomasperez7841]

I’ll never forget when she performed in Lollapalooza Chile and gave 50 free passes to the fans that was waiting to see her outside the hotel she was staying

[@tomasperez7841]

She did it bc she couldn’t greet us ‘cause she was sleeping💕

[@jayy2949]

@@tomasperez7841 lol

[@tomasperez7841]

@@jayy2949 I swear it’s a veridic story AWSJSKSK

[@hanawana]

Lana’s demos and early tracks are amazing honestly It’s interesting to listen to the evolution of her production

[@cryingtm7237]

Yes! Especaily between her certain eras

[@semilorekaji-hausa2078]

Where can I find them?

[@filmedits3783]

@@semilorekaji-hausa2078 They are unreleased but are easy to find on soundcloud, youtube, 8tracks etc.

[@hanawana]

hannah kay babe just type in Lana Del Rey unreleased or demos there’ll be loads you can hear originals or different versions by typing in “song name + demo” have fun :)

[@cryingtm7237]

@@semilorekaji-hausa2078 soundcloud

[@CorpseTongji]

kanye : *projects a false persona until it literally destroys his emotional wellbeing* everyone : genius lana : *sad old movies* everyone : BUT IS SHE BEING SINCERE

[@Sdfsoepvmsywocmzyw]

Kanye made a lot of really exceptionally produced tracks long before going insane

[@HankSasquatch]

I think most people found Ye's false persona tiring and perhaps even annoying. Except maybe his tongue in cheek lyricism, which isn't really the same thing

[@zerocooper8425]

Kanye doesn’t fake his persona. Look at his track record before the death of his mother, Donda, prior to the Taylor Swift incident Kanye wasn’t controversial. Kanye just hasn’t been the same since the death of his mother.

[@MrAdryan1603]

Kanye is an aggressively ignorant, deranged, self-obsessed asshole...

[@snowstyler15]

@Mister Wizard I dont know how familiar you are with Hip Hop from the 2000's but Kanye sure did make a big contribution to all of rap with his flawless production. Although his lyricism and flow was "only" above average he could always make a dope beat out of classic samples from the beatles to even classical music. His overall knowledge about music is insanely vast which only goes to show in his production for sure. Don't get me wrong the dude is fcking insane and a terrible social figure plus I wouldn't go as far and say he's an absolute genius. But the man has mad genius like skillz when it comes to producing a track. Seriously his talent is outstanding and his influence in the rap game is undeniably big but keeps getting forgotten because he did some dumb shit on televesion again. What i am trying to say i guess is that kaynye has an "astounding intellect" when it comes to producing music but is a rich famous arrogant prick lmao

[@mars2101]

Honestly she's still so underrated

[@user-sf1cy2hm1q]

If you still think lana is underrated idk what time you were born lana is an absolute legend she was really big in 2012 & 2013 i guess you are too young to remember today lana is an icon

[@corinablanco7500]

I think that she is really recognized for her image but not for her songs, I mean most people know who she is, think that she is beautiful and have seen many of her photos in Tumblr because she is really Aesthetic, but the only of her songs that have heard is Summertime Sadnesss Remix, If you get the whole point she is more recognized as a tumblr girl than a singer, and his few views in KZbin show that

[@shoegazeforever8810]

Not in the UK she's not.

[@brzoskwinka217]

Got7 Jackson shes overrated

[@xx-zp4mj]

no i agree she is underrated. it’s you guys who don’t understand what that means. it’s not that she’s not big or not famous, it’s that the amount of credit and respect given to her isn’t up to part with the artistry. most people do think she’s a boring sad girl aesthetic industry plant. her music is actually quite niche if you ditch the mainstream hits, i think a lot of older generation people would actually find her amazing if they actually listened. she’s definitely for the old souls.

[@nadaquever279]

The fact that people still talk about her having an on stage name??? Like do yall live in a bubble???🤨 That’s the most common thing ever

[@PaulGaither]

I don't follow any of this stuff and had never heard of her before. I am just discovering who she is with this video. Not everybody lives in tabloid media. I listen to the likes of Pink Floyd, Tool, Metallica, Led Zeppelin and the like. It is not as if this artist was ever going to show up on my radar, let alone know anything about her.

[@PoppyIsMyMetalQueen]

No one cares about that anymore. All that matters is that Lana is a horrible person. She is so racist and self entitled.

[@jhonhenry9056]

Thats true but sucks tho

[@pixelaffecti0n]

Tyler Hershey girl how she’s never done anything like that

[@nm9688]

@@PaulGaither I don't think that's the point this comment was trying to make. They're saying having a stage name is nothing to be criticized over. Do you want a cookie for listening to really popular bands or something?

[@LucasRodrigues-wc6xg]

About authentic in art: "The poet is a faker Who’s so good at his act He even fakes the pain Of pain he feels in fact." (Fernando Pessoa)

[@Laraluz850]

Oh god. You know Fernando Pessoa!!

[@LucasRodrigues-wc6xg]

@@Laraluz850 the question is, what kinda of people don't?

[@naoexistimos777]

Translated poetry is WEIRD

[@LucasRodrigues-wc6xg]

@@naoexistimos777 It sure is. But at the same time it's amazing. Translate poetry is also an art. About the fragment of that Pessoa's poem, I particularly find very well done.

[@naoexistimos777]

L L I agree with you. It just bugs me seeing my language on the other side, since we grow up reading poetry translated from english.

[@EdieSexwitch]

If Lana Del Rey was a man, she’d be called a genius. For what it’s worth, I think she’s a genius and will be recognized as such later on in her life.

[@inessa5923]

Stop with the SJW shit please

[@QueenNaerys]

datbig304 shut up loser lol

[@GuiSmith]

Edie Doesn’t mean we can’t now! She is genius, has talent, and even has gone through stage fright in front of the world. There’s a personal progression we get to watch with every album release and I feel that’s the reality.

[@awfulandawfullerlol]

Edie isn’t she called a genius? Like, I always hear her being called a genius. And men can’t make albums sounding like a 60’s female Pop artist so I don’t really know what you mean there :/ if a man did it, it’d just be weird

[@wakeupandsmelltherain6351]

A V maybe from her own fans but the gp either doesn’t know her or associate her with tumblr girls with daddy issues. And dudes can make 60’s pop, there was that whole phase a few years ago where people were making 50’s inspired shit.

[@ottozagala991]

People are so focused on the editing (which is at its best, don’t get me wrong) But the story telling tho, ur sooo good dude 👀

[@meganperreault5191]

Yes, editing is so good, story telling let me dim those lights.

[@priyac7054]

She's a modern poet. A lyrical genius who whips out amazing vocals to accompany her poetry.. Not everyone really has the capacity to comprehend that glimmer of genius, it only shines for subtle eyes..

[@gabescala4558]

It’s definitely hard to spot but it’s there it’s a room, you feel her

[@holembac]

I've always called her a singer version of Sylvia Plath for genuine reason. Don't ask me just listen to her art to understand Sylvia's art, read Sylvia's art to understand Lana 's.

[@thekidsavage4511]

She is a famous pop singer not a beat nick poet bro million of people appreciate her .......

[@pawelpawlowin95]

Her lyrics is generic tbh. It's good but it's really nothing special. She's a talented singer but not a poet.

[@HarvestGremlin]

@@pawelpawlowin95 May I ask for some artist/singer/band reccos that hit you better in that poetic way, who have deep lyrics and such? the majority of lanas lyrics dont feel generic to me. I connect with alot of her lyrics emotionally, and I often feel quite immersed in her sentimental, bittersweet story telling. but its maybe worth noting that I dont listen to much mainstream pop artists, so I dont have much to compare her against ig.

[@matthewstreacker7402]

If Lana were a man she’d be considered the father of some shit or a legend already. She’s taken the time in her life to develop a musical/cinematic universe of her own, while also exploring a new genre in each album without it feeling too drastic. Also, her methods of creating music are very similar to how people wrote their own music back in the day like Elton John or any other of the greats. I do think that Lana should be labeled the Queen of Alternative music as she fully embraces all genres. Most alternative artists shy way to far away from pop when alternative as a genre is meant to embrace all music, no matter what it is. She was able to throw jazz over a trap beat while singing about the people who were drugged in their red koolaid-while also singing about wanting her man to come to california and be a freak like her too. She also uses many vocal methods that are rare in modern music like talk singing and vocal bending which is used in tons of classic songs. She uses many vintage chord progressions... The list honestly goes on and on.

[@kriticosART]

That's bullshit but I bet you believe it

[@skycharron3218]

kriticosART you’re right

[@Fankas2000]

You know this "if she was a man" are fucking hilarious. The entertainment industry is one of those very few places were women have an advantage over men.

[@Tequilacargadito]

Fankas2000 lie, big fat lie

[@Fankas2000]

@@Tequilacargadito How many male actors do you know who got a job by blowing the movie director?

[@andrewivanyi1793]

If u listen to her old music she literally explains her whole life basically

[@JazzFlop212]

How would you know..? You didnt live her life. She could have cherry picked or fantasized. I've heard all of her songs a thousand times each at least, but I still dont have a full picture of her life. Just assumptions Edit: Dumbasses, I wrote this with no malice she is one of my favorite artists. I'm just saying we have no proof her songs are factual because we arent lana. We have assumptions and quotes from her. That's all. Jesus.

[@SteveisCool]

a.j. W Perhaps OP meant her old unreleased music, where she details everything from her days at Fordham and her trailer days, etc

[@JazzFlop212]

@@SteveisCool Yeah no shit she is referring to that..my response is still valid. I've heard every lana song a thousand times each. How would I know what lyrics were actual experiences.. Are you lana? How would you know if you werent her?

[@SteveisCool]

a.j. W damn ma, is it that serious 😳

[@ezrealxshsh5460]

@@JazzFlop212 Because we trust her and she said that she writes her own music based on experiences? Lmao not every celebrity is a fraud She even admitted to some kind of prostitution. Who would have done that and gone so far? Just because you dont believe doesnt mean is isnt true

[@Joeweee]

For me, there is just something that i find so unique and incredible about her music. Her lyrics and voice are hauntingly beautiful and she has explored so many genres in her albums that always keeps her music interesting. She just has that something that i dont think many other artists have, shes just incredible.

[@nataliewood3175]

She’s like an old mysterious hollywood angel. Her vibe is just insane.

[@jaimetorres7161]

She’s a Hollywood 304

[@SHALALATELOVER]

Lana will always be my Queen. Her unreleased stuff is actually my favorite stuff by her.

[@asapwynne]

Imperio Anderson what does she have unreleased? I would like to hear it!

[@basketball5789]

Alex Krazy listen to “Angels Forever,” it’s my personal favorite unreleased song. 😂

[@senul976]

Almost 200+ songs of Lana's unreleased songs were leaked by a hacker or some sort, that's a lot!

[@honeybones6538]

Alex Krazy I love Yes to Heaven

[@uvcaa_]

same here

[@crazykubaful]

God bless the gays for supporting Lana throughout the path she choose, they'd fight anyone who dared to disrespect her

[@mowa3145]

we protect our queen

[@praveengs7620]

Shitty people like u still lives in the stone era. Try to understand peoples and their believe.

[@yung.buck36]

Eminem wanted to punch her

[@everything5066]

The gays..

[@blurock29]

@@praveengs7620 it's a joke

[@eileenruth4153]

I feel like there are so many artists that try to give off a vintage aesthetic in their music and style but Lana Del Rey is seriously the only modern day singer that really gives me these nostalgic vibes like no other. There’s something very different about her that I love. She’s truly special ❤️

[@kay-oleavenulleb3989]

"Nothing is truly authentic, just enjoy what you enjoy" - Truer words have seldom been spoken

[@Raja-lt9rw]

Which ends up being the most authentic way

[@peppa_pig_]

WHO CARES if her personality is "manufactured" she's a *GENIUS composer, writer, and singer. Period.* She invented her nostalgic, unique, *simply sublime sound.* If she was a man people wouldn't care about her contrived "aesthetic." Every *celebrity or public figure's personality is "manufactured."*

[@RedceLL1978]

Invent and nostalgia in the same sentence. God damn you're one stupid idiot. Nothing about her music is sn invention. You can call it revivalist, but not invention. You seriously don't know shit about music at all. Typical low intellect sheep. And i can name you WAY more guys who got shunned by the masses for being inauthentic. As you sit there saying who cares if her personality is fake. Seriously what low standards for artistry sheep like you have and perpetuate. You are a sheep championing mediocrity. Fact.

[@4ndrewjlm924]

Joshua Jones ok buddy

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

Stop making everything about "sexism" and playing victim! It has no relevance in this debate!

[@Turigemo]

Someone once said "if Lana Del Rey is manufactured, it's because she manufactured herself into what she wanted to be"

[@lakshmibrandrice2198]

Stop with your feminist bullshit attitude please.

[@kennethperkins4307]

Lana Del Rey, A strangely beautiful woman who's haunting vocals are a mesmerizing tour of the Tortured soul of youth.

[@lolaabdi2376]

@I'mNoTsCaRy Kim Stop hating on Lana. She's an authentic queen and her music is like no other. She has talent and has the ability to make people feel with her music. Stop hating on her

[@lolaabdi2376]

@I'mNoTsCaRy Kim I don't think you know how free speech works because since youtube is a private owned company they don't have to have free speech because they can control what is said and happens on their platform. The first amendment mentions the government not private owned companies. I suggest you learn how the first amendment works since you want to make a snarky remark toward the end of your reply. I also love Lana's music. Please learn how it actually works

[@Oudri125]

@@lolaabdi2376 Not everyone lives in America... fun fact

[@lolaabdi2376]

@@Oudri125 sorry about that

[@bartoszjanprzybyszewski1891]

@Talia Moreau you, my dear person, are pretencious

[@blueshit9544]

I feel Lana is kind of struggling during the time of born to die. But from ultraviolence, she truly finds herself. I remember my first listened to that album, and from that moment, I knew she is the coolest person on this planet.

[@dreamgirl4612]

Blue Shit she was definitely struggling a lot with all the backlash she was receiving during BTD era. Ultraviolence almost didn’t happen. She nearly quit the music business because of all the hate ;/ We are so lucky she stayed and continues to make beautiful music.

[@rgndy26]

This proves that being a woman in the music industry is hard. They should keep reinventing themselves to keep the relevancy meanwhile man doing the same things for their whole career and still get praise for that.

[@sipeolusoga5817]

This is a dumb take irregardless of gender, they're people on both sides who constantly reinvent themselves and some who do the same thing their whole career and still succeed.

[@cruisingwithoutsail6585]

What a dumb take

[@vasudhabhandari8431]

@@cruisingwithoutsail6585 how do you explain Eminem then lol

[@amirriddle]

Aka Rihanna. Rihanna has had to reinvent herself too many times for it not to be, at least part of it, industry pressure

[@Restqt]

@@vasudhabhandari8431 wdym what about eminem

[@cheesecakelasagna]

I'm just proud she seem more confident and carefree/not uptight now in interviews and performances.

[@hushedtones7168]

I think it was just a timing issue that happened with millennials reaching adulthood and being marketing savvy generation. And the big social media shift made everything omnipresent and feeling kind of invasive

[@lucreceanazar872]

Second favorite comment first favorite replay

[@godman75]

Wow this was a great video essay. Lana is quite an intriguing artist. Don't really get all the criticism about her. She's brilliant as a musician and songwriter. The editing and narration for this video was really fantastic, shows you put a lotta effort into this.

[@dawntaylor4210]

I agree with everything you said ,she is a amazing artist ,I really love everything about her !!

[@LyndaShavo]

this is a whole ass documentary

[@kenrehill8775]

Can you translate that to English please?

[@ruaruam]

@@kenrehill8775 ??

[@1995TheCaroline]

This video is *SO* aesthetically pleasing!

[@lanafan211]

You didn't have to do her dirty and bring you up that darn SNL performance. That haunts our every dream...

[@franks8462]

speak for yourself. I love it (probably for all the wrong reasons). Don't get me wrong. It's not good at all, but it's very entertaining to see all those vocal gymnastics xD

[@makadray]

Do her dirty? It’s one of her most well known moments, and the fact was that it was blown way out of proportion and also highlighted the fact that even people with stage personals can experience anxiety and have it affect their lives and careers. The fact is that while she was badly received on SNL, she still managed to rise above it (even the SNL cast came to her defense).

[@bbbrucebaker]

@@franks8462 one of the two is like ok. Btw always been entertained by the performance too. Finally si see i'm not alone.

[@suz3787]

it's important to mention it, because god knows every critique of her in 2012 had to do with that performance. critics fucking grasped onto that performance to try and justify their unfounded hate.

[@mrods999]

Collin Meehan well it was a huge part of her career and the fact that she was able to rise above it is more of a compliment than anything

[@kpkp7277]

Lana De Rey is a goddess, we got so blessed to have her

[@ecstaaticmind]

Lana has been able redefined herself for every era of her albums.

[@winnie5269]

there is something so mysterious and compelling about her, even after all the controversy her presence is so interesting and her songs are like hidden messages from the past

[@jayy2949]

She studied metaphysics and crazy stuff with literature and metaphors and includes them and I'm not even a fan and I can hear it in the 4 songs of hers I've heard. Very interesting

[@marissa8085]

In Conclusion, Lana del Ray is a goddess. PERIOD

[@nomenenimipsumloquitur]

What means "period"?

[@brooklynnbutterfield1951]

меланхоличный эльф it kinda means like, that’s that and nothing else to add

[@muhsinsadiq7605]

You mean GODDESS

[@antonellagiralt]

no, she’s GOD

[@shubhimourya94]

Lana del rey is a feeling. Xoxo 🙌🏻

[@sc5202]

THIS.✨

[@andrea-dj2hc]

period!

[@Nicohakuu1]

I love Lana del Rey's music to death but seriously... people question genuinity of the artist? None of the popular artists in the US are "genuine". Record labels decide everything from the style to song themes. This is the cruel reality. Artists have no real freedom in Hollywood.

[@estelaangeles2346]

Does gallant have freedom

[@juustop]

That’s the thing about Lana, she only does exactly what she wants and that’s why she’ll be ever win a Grammy cause she’ll never be mainstream enough. Just as an example, she debuted a 9-minute long song on the radio just because she wanted that - her manager almost killed her.

[@Gameworks1407]

Lol that doesn't make sense when artists release a record antagonizing nearly every audience and cause huge uproar in their target demographic because it talks about serious social themes. Beyoncé's lemonade is an example. It antagonized nearly the whole country, including the current government, all the while her mass appeal was waning. Beyoncé was still popular, but due to her releasing more and more controversial works, her target audience shrunk. Releasing the album was not a good marketing strategy. Neither was her previous album. Which is a whole other monster

[@sipeolusoga5817]

This literally isn't true, Record labels don't decide everything for artists maybe a few but definitely not the majority. Don't say shit like this to make lana look more "genuine" than other artists.

[@yegra]

Lana changed my life and her music was with me during hard times

[@jayy2949]

You changed your life, her music was the sound track to it! Give yourself some credit! I hope the best for you, keep making progress!

[@jefferyjones5167]

I was kinda late learning about Lana. The first song I heard of hers was Gods and Monsters. It blew me away. It was so different. I like different. Nothing wrong with different. After I heard Summertime Sadness I went out and bought everything I could find of hers. I was NOT disappointed with any of it and I wait impatiently for anything new from her. I don't care about her past. She's wonderful and I'm in love with her!

[@Emmanuel_Morales20]

Jeffery Jones yesss i love gods and monsters i can always get down to it

[@Izzrules]

I love Lana and I’ve never fully perceived her as authentic. For me, Lana Del Rey is pure emotion without reason. She isn’t something that you consider and ponder, she’s something you feel. I don’t listen to Cruel World and think about why you’d have your bible and your gun, I listen to it and feel sad but also like a new life is beginning.

[@Gomba13]

I don’t like Lana Del Rey, but I like how you perceive her music. I can see how it’s relevant to you. I am guessing you have eclectic tastes.

[@jayy2949]

Huh! This is the first comment about her/her music I've heard or read that makes sense and is eye opening to me. Very well put! I don't think the same way but I can appreciate how you think about it! It's true though it's not sense it's feeling! Well freaking put! Who else do you like listening to, for any reason? I feel your recommendations would be great

[@Eva-kj5by]

exactly! her music is something you feel not think! Blue banisters makes me sad when she sings about painting the banisters grey her songs are an emotion

[@yellowbananaripple]

In the song "Wayamaya" she say she belongs to "Ray" her ex boo, where she sings "remember when we moved and changed our names to Lana and Ray." "Del Ray" from/of Ray, which explains the o.g spelling as Lizzy Grant.

[@sibaibaiba]

Her music has 1950s vibes It makes me feel like I’m floating on a black and white screen with the whole world watching

[@Always8Baka]

A physical release of the Lizzy Grant Album would be such a dream come true!

[@TheGroovyGuitarDude]

Woah, the timing of this video is amazing! I have been OBSESSED with Lana’s music lately. I saw her last year in Dallas and she seems very authentic and like a genuinely good person. Loved this video and learning more about one of my favorite artists, thanks for doing what you do man! 😌🙌🏽

[@jacquelynnecalderon1411]

Once you start listening to her, you cannot stop. Ever. Every song she has ever written is good.

[@michaelwaynemartin3291]

I heard Video Games for the first time last year, and immediately grabbed my guitar, don't care about anything else about her. Authenticity is in your connection to the art.

[@fadyalhachem]

100% 🖒🖒🖒

[@steventopper9310]

@@fadyalhachem She can sing she's awesome!

[@fadyalhachem]

@@steventopper9310 man she's my muse when I write she's such an amazing artist 😍

[@steventopper9310]

@@fadyalhachem She's a turn on!

[@no_peace]

She is incandescent

[@Liliaholivia]

She is a fucking masterpiece.

[@LollieVox]

Amen to that!!!!

[@tomsenft7434]

So, my wife looks just like her, and my wife's name is Laura De Reyos! Unfortunately, my wife is less famous. However, she is an excellent entertainer.

[@macman975]

@Tom Senft.. Your wife looks like Sloth from Goonies

[@1Dark.Paradise.Lost1]

Proof?

[@cambodiaremyzero]

my exwife has the same mouth- tone....

[@alapotato9367]

entertainer 😏

[@parleseniortv2685]

EXCELLENT ENTERTAINER IN BED I GUESS

[@mayam.3454]

sure "lana del rey" is an orchestrated persona but to me that's art

[@pattykils]

I think NME made the best point about authenticity in music when they reviewed the Black Keys' Brothers: "Authentic? Who cares when it sounds this good?"

[@michaelwaynemartin3291]

Boom. Exactly.

[@bacht4799]

Michael Wayne Martin MIC DROP .. ✌️

[@Pyongggggg]

Love her for her being who she is. an authentic, poetic person, never give in to commercial songs to gain fame and famous. For me, every piece of Lana's songs is ART, there's no one can duplicate. I'm seriously proud of her for not being moved or changed by society, instead doing her own style, her lyrics, singing her own rhythms in her own way!

[@talamajed7054]

Py Ong yesssss ahe is such a queen

[@kingkhaalid2082]

I feel like her singing in a lower register really messed up people's perception of her. Like when she was on stage in her early performances as Lana she wouldn't sing all to well but when she'd hit those high notes they were heavenly. All I know is is that her voice is amazing and I wish people would research and not just base someone's talent off of one bad show( SNL). Thank you for making this video.

[@demolitionFM]

I think Yayo is a great song to show her range. She sings the hook in a medium tone, next in a higher tone, and finally in a deep sultry voice. I love it.

[@foopiez]

she USED the controversy around her career to double down on her "doomed starlet who hates the press" persona. thus again becoming the melancholy underdog we fell in love with.

[@trekjudas]

Prince, David Bowie, Elton John, Madonna and many other great artist manufactured a persona for themself! It's nothing new!

[@taeuhh9103]

Beantown its the same shit though

[@cambodiaremyzero]

her songs were written for her, very consciously, the productions were done without her input, the awesome videos are carefully constructed by others... but still, i adore her ....

[@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme]

@@cambodiaremyzero At the end of the day, as long as the end result is brilliant, I don't really care who did what.

[@jhonhenry9056]

Yes but her songs suck.

[@trekjudas]

Jhon Henry that’s a matter of opinion. One I disagree with.

[@lanadewey3157]

imagine lana was invented in 2020 and called lil del rey lmao

[@zeusescoven8266]

I’m dead

[@lanadewey3157]

@@zeusescoven8266 don't … i'll be sad T T

[@tristanyupukoni6453]

......what was the reason for you post this?!?!?!?!?

[@lanadewey3157]

@@tristanyupukoni6453 same reason why you asking

[@nihilisticbarbie]

Lil Del Rey......I fuck with it 👌🏼💯

[@birdinacan]

Dude, I love Lana. All I need to know is when can her next album is coming out and where she's touring.

[@fadyalhachem]

Album in August

[@papadenke9584]

nfr out on 30th august

[@demerrara]

the thing about "selling out" is artists need to make money to actually live and keep making the music people take for granted

[@hushedtones7168]

A lot of those who don't "sellout" can still have very comfortable lives. "Sellouts" usually make mostly money for the industry and some of them don't keep as much as we'd think. That's probably why there are negative reactions to it because industry has incentives to monetize them so they push them very hard.

[@Papa_Mateo]

Hope Hartline you’re hot! Let’s mate

[@katteycat]

@@hushedtones7168 I think they are taking about more smaller bands who really don't make a lot of money at all. There's kinda this idea in the punk scene that if you start to get bigger you're automatically a sellout and don't belong in the scene. Thankfully people are starting to get over that.

[@hushedtones7168]

@@katteycat genres are only a marketing package built around songwriting. If the songwriting so great you will blow up no matter the genre. If the songwriting is poor then you rely on trends and short lived tactics to finesse but it last only a few months. Without great songwriting you can sell out as much as you want in punk rock today and still make no money. All the money goes to 1990s bands who honed their songwriting craft. So better make the music you enjoy anyway. In every genre there's a novelty opportunity window to get in more easily. After that the genre is very tired and formulaic so you need to stand out and do new things to innovate and be recognized because instead of listening to a popular bands poor copy people will just listen to the old established original band. People who do punk rock today do it as night & weekend passion projects and they have day jobs to cover the bands expenses because most have average songwriting abilities. learning songwriting theory is the path to success in any genre now. If you write lyrics that resonate with people and they have good melodies where every note of every syllables fit with the emotion roller coaster of your lyrics then genre doesn't matter. If everything is rhythmically coherent then all you need is to learn to self-produce good enough demos. That's what all succesful acts have in common at least one person in any project focused & spent 3-5years learning and practicing the best knowledge about songwriting & music theory. Even if its easy to them now they worked hard on their songwriting abilities before it became second nature. From SIA to Bebe Rexha to Tove lo to Julia Michaels to avril lavigne to Kacey Musgraves to Katy Perry to Taylor Swift they all shine from their songwriting skills. Even pop stars who aren't that good songwriters will need to get with the best songwriters but then the songwriter will make most money from the song and the performer will make money from the brand they create around themselves with touring, merch, sponsorship. A lot of people can sing great but very few can objectively write great songs. If you spend a few thousand hours practicing and read 4-5 of the best 15$ books about songwriting and analyze 200 top100 songs melodies, chords and rhythm you'll get there within 2-5 years if you have interesting things about you to share or life experience that people can connect with in your lyrics. If you want to make it as a instrument performer (drum, bass, guitar, singer) then you will need to practice 10 000 hours and still depend on other people's songwriting. But there are still plenty of middle class people in the music industry they will juggle around 5 to 20 different income streams that earn them 0-5000$ per year each. Even top DJs all they do is profit from good to great songwriting that they self produce or did interesting sound design over it.

[@katteycat]

@@hushedtones7168 what are you talking about. That has nothing to do with what I said??

[@minnie7453]

She’s so beautiful it breaks my heart.

[@dawntaylor4210]

Why would it break your heart lol ,very strange comment lol !!

[@sc5202]

She's a queen

[@bronktug2446]

It’s just that makeup boys, nothing to get excited about

[@kriticosART]

She's not. Stop worshipping edited photos

[@skycharron3218]

kriticosART it’s not edited photos, she has looked the exact same from the beginning of her career to today. She is beautiful, she looks exactly the same in the photos as she does in her live performances

[@person1232]

Well, she put Lizzy Grant in her “Doin’ Time” video. I don’t think she’s hiding it or covering it up.

[@monicaailyn4816]

I want to cry whenever I think about her, her music just fills me up with so much joy and passion that I can't help but be moved.

[@a.patel1]

Summertime sadness came back on the charts recently even though it was released over 7 years ago(I think) and honestly as it should 😂

[@scottfree2248]

Lana's music, videos, and image are timeless. Her persona is a reflection of classic cinematic and literary icons. Our society has become so obsessed with exposing everything about a performer that we fail to appreciate the beauty and mystery of their work itself.

[@jayy2949]

Good point

[@KarthikRaveller]

*I LOVE LOVE LOVE LANA DEL REY. I FEEL BLESSED THAT SHE IS A SINGER FROM OUR GENERATION. SHE MAKES MUSIC WHICH IMPACTS ME ALWAYS*

[@crudfingers6403]

Simp

[@konstantinkirilov1664]

Great video! Please do Marina and The Diamonds (now known as Marina)! This girl has something really special about her. Usually I am more into extreme music but she is the sole reason that got me more into pop (although she really blurres the lines with most songs, especially from her first album, The Family Jewels). I see a lot of other people who like death metal and stuff that get into her too, which is just incredible. Cheers!

[@hide904]

Metalhead here and I can say same. Although I like a handful of her music. "Savages" was the first song by her that hooked me.

[@konstantinkirilov1664]

@@hide904 really happy to hear that! I got hooked on by Froot and it was the first song I heard from her. I love how many styles there are in this song, from the 8 bit video game waves to the funky bass. Oh, and the opera part at the end kills me every time (savages has this too) :D. You should check out her first album, it's a masterpiece imho.

[@hide904]

@Konstantin Kirilov dude I was JUST listening to her first album some hours before as I am currently progressing through her discography. "Shamping" is one that really stands out to me!

[@alexmaguire6096]

Glad to see someone who also wants Middle 8 to explore deeper in Marina's music ! @Night Shade I think you mean the song "Shampain" ?

[@konstantinkirilov1664]

@@hide904 From her first album, for me, every single song is 11/10 without Shampain and Rootless (which are really good songs nonetheless but the others are just soo incredible) to be honest :D Make sure to listen to the DELUXE edition as well cause there are 2 more songs (The Family Jewels and Seventeen) which are also incredible!!

[@BriIsTheFinestCheese]

11:46 “While other female singers were pumping out lazy meaningless power anthems to make money, Lana del rey wrote poetry” There I fixed that sentence for you lmao

[@KarinaMichelle]

Briallyn Rose truuuuuu

[@artycharvi]

We don't need to bring down other women to raise one. I get that you're giving a complement to Lana del Ray, but you don't have to say that others are 'lazy' and 'meaningless'.

[@KarinaMichelle]

Charvi Dave wait I feel like it’s a fair criticism. Selling the idea of empowerment is something the music industry does to make money. She’s not directly bringing down other women, she’s not even naming other women. It’s more like that aspect of the music industry she’s criticizing. Those powerful pop anthems are influential in their own right and find massive amounts of success regardless. But to be fair I do feel like it would have come out way more harsh if it was a guy who made that criticism....

[@artycharvi]

@@KarinaMichelle I get what you mean and it's really sad how there are quite a few artists out there who really do it for the money covering up these amazing female artists using mainstream media. I think it's up to us to name those people who do make a positive impact instead of focusing on the negative aspects. I hope I'm wording this out right lol

[@KarinaMichelle]

Charvi Dave definitely! You’re very right. I also think this was meant to be sarcastic and that’s just the kind of humor I find funny. Nothing against other women at all. :) There is some truth to it which is why I found it to be a clever observation.

[@dwh8310]

After she wrote Mariners Apartment Complex no one should question anything about her....ever.

[@faysuxxss]

You lose your way, just take my hand…hits every time!

[@khushlovie]

Me liking every comment coz m so happy so many love her.

[@liliannnarocha]

Same🖤

[@annabelleb3510]

I also think, like Lorde, she shifted the pop landscape to alternative to pave way for artists like Halsey and Billie Eilish.

[@Maribaby-X]

The vintage feel in this video makes it even more aesthetic and it's so beautiful and nostalgic

[@AurelioSon]

Why is the industry obsessed deceiving people labeling artists as "indie"? Lana Del Rey, Poppy, Clairo, Billie Eilish...

[@Iisheell]

To get young audience to follow an artist? Young people are known to like indie stuff, because young people hate everything that has something to do with corporations, and would likely follow someone who is - at least seemingly - one of them, fresh out of parents' house basement, nobody with a fresh and relatable vision

[@AirKangLocker]

indie gives a great "started from the bottom now we here" vibe and also exploiting on the image of "untamed" "experimental" "not sold-out pop star" of indie bands which young fans like to look hipster

[@BubbleGum-sk9ql]

Poppy? Because.......POPPY IS YOUR MOMMY

[@sallyscott3663]

She isn't what was or currently is mainstream - She isn't House, and she isn't RnB/Grime (although some of her collabs have been with such artists) and she isn't like noughties pop either. So kinda where else does she fit, and it's probably easier for her to be labelled as Indie than a very specific sub genre. Baroque pop or something?

[@soaribb32]

Cuz "indie" is a market and they're selling the products with ads.

[@idontevencarewhathtissays]

A person could go insane worrying about this kind of thing. I used to worry about whether or not the music I was listening to was made by sell-outs or by manufactured artists or bands. Now, I don't care. I listen to what I like no matter the source.

[@АннаВасюкова-м1ъ]

I love and respect Lana so much because she is self-conscious and do not try to play this over the top "strong woman"- and it makes her strong woman for real.

[@northernbrother1258]

I smell more than a little whiff of sexism here. If she had been a dude, no one would be questioning her success or authenticity, or looking for the male puppet master behind her.

[@Middle8]

It's true. This kind of backlash tends to happen more towards female artists: Madonna, Gaga, Lorde and now Billie Eilish have all experienced severe criticism due to their image/personas.

[@bigbadwolfflurryface3246]

I think the same things happend to guys too

[@shadowpuppet222]

Big Bad Wolf Flurry Face who?

[@mialily6787]

Wow never thought about that

[@huntsman145]

@Audrey’s daughter every boy band ever.

[@noslost-z7r]

Why didn't people just appreciate her vocal and her songwriting over the supposed indie backstory in the first place? She is one in a billion.