The Baby Reindeer Drama Is SO Disturbing

Today we dive deep into Netflix's Baby Reindeer created by Richard Gadd and breakdown the series. Baby Reindeer is a true story about Richard Gadd being stalked by a woman callled Martha. In this video we review the show and explain various scenes in the movie. We also react to the drama surrounding the real life martha and Darrien as Fiona Harvey (the real martha) has done a news interview talking about Richard Gadd and the netflix show Baby Reindeer..
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[@CamKirkham]

Hello donuts! Hope you enjoy this one, me and editor Tom spend extra time making this video as good as possible!! Let me know your thoughts on Baby Reindeer.. i'm intrigued to see your opinions!!

[@deliciouscake4971]

Another fantastic video from you and your editor, just amazing ❤❤ I cried so hard in the series 😭

[@sadpandachild]

Loving the editing for this video!!! amazing job all round!!!

[@laurensparanormalreviewsan860]

M8 no jk the real st4Iker has 50000000000000000000000 ig accs 😂

[@noahale9514]

yeah its wild...

[@luckie-rae6058]

was just thinking how amazing the editing was, all the hard work you both put in really paid off

[@MaxWinchesterPersonalStylist]

More men who’ve been victims of SA have sought help since the show came out. It’s good to see something good come from Richard Gadd reliving his trauma

[@Reeeeeee3333]

1000% 🎉

[@CamKirkham]

100% it’s really inspiring and kind of empowering in a way. Not what happened but the fact he’s managed to turn his trauma into something positive that can help people deal with theirs 🙌🏻❤️

[@MaxWinchesterPersonalStylist]

@@CamKirkham exactly. It’s also refreshing to see how he has shown his own faults which are what many would have done. I think it grounds it and shows anyone can be a victim

[@jakeyboy203]

I have told people about my SA experience since watching the show so much respect for Richard

[@MaxWinchesterPersonalStylist]

@@jakeyboy203I hope you’re ok

[@montygotlost6812]

The way people reacted to this show completely contradicts what the show is about. It’s actually so frustrating to see

[@redwiltshire1816]

I mean people have overreacted and romanticised shows like this for a long time it’s definitely disturbing to say the least

[@montygotlost6812]

@@redwiltshire1816I think it just makes it so much worse when you realise that this is a real story aswell it’s not just a made up show

[@redwiltshire1816]

@@montygotlost6812 one tip for you never join the true crime community those people are insane

[@montygotlost6812]

@toby544. and the whole point of the show was to show the impact that stalking has on people’s lives, it was also a prominent point in the show that Martha was not well and he wanted to help her. I get that people wanna know the real life Martha but it’s so disturbing when you think past social media and realise this is someone’s life. And don’t even get me started on how they responded to the sa in the show

[@xinex5166]

@@montygotlost6812 I personally don’t get why they want to know who Martha is. I think one of the whole points in the show is it could be anyone really- it get the initial curiosity, but I cannot Cathy how someone can’t stop themselves midway through typing the first search into google and go ‘on wait, this is probably what Martha did when she tried to figure out who Richard was’. That being said I think it’s interesting that the show has both shown and proved how easy it is for a struggling individual to start a spiral similar to Martha’s; in the show it’s started with a cup of tea, in real life it’s started by someone watching a Netflix series.

[@badbbecca]

in you talking about baby reindeer helping you to be able to talk about your experience, there has been a 57% increase in males seeking support for SA directly due to baby reindeer!

[@hughcampbell-ww3bf]

For me, this series has resonance with It's A Sin from a few years ago, both in its gripping reality based story-line and the scale of its post-release social impact.

[@CamKirkham]

This is so good to hear🙌🏻 Horrific that so many people go through this tho

[@gretchenbaker7435]

This is why I'm glad for the show. Why are we worried about the perpertrator , she is a criminal. If the stalker was a man and did all she did we wouldn't be feeling bad for him at all.

[@badbbecca]

@@gretchenbaker7435 i think this is the thing that surprises me. i watched the show and was hit so hard by it as my best friend had a stalker for 13 years, never once even thought to search for the real martha or darien because that’s not the point 😔

[@lanemcnally5159]

57% increase according to what?

[@neithmd63]

I agree with you on how bizarre it is that people are looking for Martha instead of Darrien. He is an absolute monster who deserves to spend many years in prison for what he did to Richard and likely some others. He is known for doing this kind of thing to people and from that, I doubt Richard was the first or the last. Fiona absolutely did wrong but she needs help, "Darrien" needs to face what he has done.

[@Las645]

So because she’s mentally ill that makes it ok to sexually assault, abuse, and stalk people? She literally just as bad as Darrien. Beyond me why any of y’all are defending either one of them

[@leah468]

“She did wrong but she needs help” using metal health as a excuse to sa and stalk someone isn’t okay and the guy who rapes him also “need help” do you see how bad that sounds

[@thevideowatchful]

@@tescovaluebleach Tom goodman-hill literally IS the guy who played Darrien

[@s.g.7572]

You're completely missing the point. Yes, real-life Darrien is a monster, but Internet frontier justice is never a good idea even when the motives are sound. The hunt for Darrien will inevitably lead to innocent people having their lives overturned due to mistaken identity, in fact it already has.

[@neithmd63]

@s.g.7572 I’m not saying that people should be looking for him. Innocent men have been wrongly blamed for his crimes and that is absolutely wrong. I’m just pointing out how interesting it is that people focus on her specifically instead of the two villains of the programme.

[@gabbriadforf777]

so many people completely missed the point of the show, it wasn't to shame her in any way, in fact he actually acknowledged throughout that she was mentally ill and he didn't blame her for her actions. some people smh 🙄

[@phelovepokemon]

She literally touched him/sexually assaulted him. He tried to move on and she went for his family (how she got their numbers I don't know). There's mentally ill, then there's being a dangerous aggressive scary person. People where I live claim mental illness when they have stabbed or had a knife on someone. I'm mentally ill but I don't cause harm to people who have done nothing to me. She is dangerous.

[@DistilledVoice]

That's like saying mental health is a perfect excuse to act how we want.. which isn't the case at all. Authorities know she's literally mental. There is/was no real support for anyone in her situation I can promise you that. The best any mental health team will do is say "ooh let's put your medication higher and give u trauma therapy" which is bs... and when ya sectioned.. all that's jist forced upon you more.. its sickening...

[@yup8166]

@@phelovepokemon She was so deranged but if the storyline is 100% true him sleeping with her during her delusions even after she literally assaulted his girlfriend while they were on a date definitely didn’t help her AT ALL. Obviously I’m not saying it’s his fault but you have to try to see both sides.

[@skyew2205]

@@yup8166he didn’t sleep with her. He was imagining it while sleeping with Teri.

[@yup8166]

@melissajayneuk ohhh that actually makes so much sense 😭

[@bigmaaan]

And now people are giving this woman a platform in real life??? Imagine being Richard Gadd, i feel so bad for him :/

[@CamKirkham]

Hopefully he’s doing ok 🙌🏻❤️

[@esmeecampbell7396]

It's called being able to face your accuser. Imagine how broken the system would be if a famous person could accuse you of something you didn't do and everyone would just agree with them because they heard it first from the famous person so it must be true... Use your brain.

[@Liz-wz8dh]

I know, right? But he must be in a better place. Who could reenact their own SA?

[@cgi_angel6001]

​@@esmeecampbell7396 victim blaming I see? You're disgusting

[@mumsspaghetti6649]

He made a series about her. She deserves to give her side of the story. Even if she is mental

[@whatiwasgoingtosay]

I don’t see how they could have hidden “Martha’s” identity without changing the premise of the show. You know why people haven’t found the rapist? Because he’s not all over the Internet constantly talking about and tagging Richard Gadd. Even if they have changed every detail about her, it wouldn’t take a detective to find the evidence of cyber stalking.

[@miisskaii]

they have found him!

[@naheed03]

I partly agree with you but certain words she used should have been changed. Using the exact same words mean creeps of Internet to find who real Martha is. They could have given the character to someone who looked nothing like Fiona and also switched some sentences. That would have been sufficient but I do see your point. I am a British commercial lawyer, btw so looking at it from that perspective. Netflix f@cked up and will pay her a settlement figure privately and ask her to sign an NDA. I know that for sure.

[@kazu9445]

the real Martha also seems to be SOOO obsessed with the fact she "didn't go to jail", not mentioning the...stalking...at all.

[@cgi_angel6001]

Exactly 💯💯💯 it's almost a brag... It's disgusting. She doesn't say: I didn't assault him, or stalk him and his parents." She just says "I didn't go to jail"

[@aurora8749]

Idk dude. When my kid was watching it she said, "Who is stalking who?" And at one point I was like yeah, it does seem like he's stalking her. I don't believe the story happened the way he portrayed it. It was sensationalized for the show. I believe she definitely was obsessive and inappropriate but I think he played into it more than he let on.

[@cgi_angel6001]

@@aurora8749 i understand having a healthy amount of doubt with things like this... But speaking as someone who has been stalked and harassed by a narcissistic person, personally a lot of the body language and way she speaks just screams NPD to me. A good example from her interview is how she would say one thing, and almost immediately contradict herself. "I never watched the show, but I can describe everything in great detail". & "He's a homosexual, but he fancies me"???? And the way she belittles his struggles with his sexual assault. "His ALLEGED assault." "Whether his assault was something he made up in his mind or not..." Even the jabs at both him, and anyone associated with him, sends off red flags for me. "Well he is a homosexual..." "... There's a fat gal that's supposed to be me." 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 (Also, sidenote: should a kid even watch this show?)

[@FC-hj9ub]

Because it's probably all fiction

[@aurora8749]

@@cgi_angel6001 Yes, I agree she does show signs of one of the dark triad disorders. That being said, I didn't say she was innocent. I said he played into it more than he let on, at least for the first couple episodes because I didn't watch beyond that and I do believe the story was very sensationalized for TV. Again, I have no doubt she harassed him relentlessly and her behaviors are not justified. One thing I appreciate about the show is how honest he is about the ways in which he may have fed into her behavior. It takes guts to admit because some ppl think that means he is to blame, he isn't. And no, definitely not an appropriate show for kids but I didn't know that when we turned it on and she didn't watch past the first episode. But anyways most kids are watching way worse than the first episode of that show. The things I hear other kids talk about is disgusting but yeah, I wouldn't have even let her watch the first episode had I known how sick it got as the show progressed.

[@SunChaserEUC]

Also the hug scene is good, specifically because earlier in the show, Donny went for a hug and the dad gave him a handshake. And then in the scene, Donny goes for the handshake because he just assumes that’s what the dad is comfortable with and the dad gives him a hug

[@TheDoctorDavey]

Cam speaking his trauma puts this video on a whole nother level. Cam says the guy on the programme has great mental strength, so do you man so do you

[@CamKirkham]

🙌🏻❤️

[@mustsebra]

I had the worst panic attack ever and had to go to the ER after watching the 4th episode bc the SA scene+ the aftermath of it was depicted SO accurately that everything came back to me (I’ve had the exact same experience), I love how well this show is done but I really hope the guy is doing well, I could never re-enact those things tbh

[@dakota2596]

it was so horrific to watch i can’t imagine playing the role. i had 3 warnings (from people recommending it on tiktok and the netflix pop up) and still was not prepared seeing it. i felt so sick.

[@WynnWynn-gl3fk]

Join 4B. Enough is enough or else you are continuing to enable them.

[@loubeloubelou]

I was a victim of stalking for 2 years. I can't watch or read most things that focus around stalking (you on netflix is one I can't watch) because they can be quite triggering for me. I'm considering giving this a try though. From what I've heard it doesn't glorify stalkers like a lot of shows, books and movies do. What I went through for those two years I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I lost my job, my home, friends, my safe places and my stable mental health plummeted. It's be nearly 9 years since it all went to court and that part of my life still affects me, even now. I can't go out when it's dark, certain types of men (height, hair colour, build etc) can make me panic before I realise it's not him and I have no trust in the justice system anymore. He got away with what he did to me and another girl. I got a restraining order with no end date on it and found out 2 years later that he had been locked up for stalking a further 3 girls after me. Justice failed a lot of people that day. I hope I manage to watch this, because I want someone to make people understand how destructive being a victim of stalking is. It ruined my entire life and I'm still not over it now. I hope Richard Gad is ok and dealing better than I have. Love you dude, as always an amazing video. Apologies for the essay! This one really struck a chord with me

[@luckie-rae6058]

its a great show but just be aware that the show can be super graphic and while it really doesn’t romanticise stalking, he does blame himself a lot and get obsessive about martha in some ways, i wasn’t expecting it to be so brutal showing all the instances or SA he’s experienced. i’m sorry for all you went through and i hope you don’t mind me saying this, but if you give this show a watch just take care of yourself 🤍

[@zanderisamazing5043]

I would skip the show. I had to stop watching when he decided to return to the man who gave him stuff and then touched him because maybe they could still write a script together

[@shethingsd]

I'm sorry for your experience. It might be too much, so definitely give yourself an out if you decide to give it a try.

[@janek3531]

If you want to watch it despite the warnings I HIGHLY recommend watching it through VidAngel. It’s the only way I can watch a lot of shows and movies. It will cut out anything you don’t want to see and usually it won’t impact the viewing experience. It’s definitely worth the $5 or so a month.

[@anonymouse6703]

Oh my god honey I'm so sorry you went through all that and are still suffering. Sending comfort vibes through the internet, hope you feel it and receive all the support you need in your life.

[@mayav927]

I’m SO PROUD of all the men who have found the strength within themselves to come forward with your stories. I’m so SO sorry you have had to experience that (as a survivor of it myself, I understand), but speaking about it can help your journey to healing so much. No matter how long it takes for you to feel comfortable enough to open up about it, it’s ok. Your feelings are valid, and we hear you. Please take care of yourselves. ❤️

[@RabidSnarf]

I'm glad the show inspired you to open up about your own SA experiences. SA on men needs to be taken more seriously than it is. I'm a woman and was a victim of SA many, many, many times in my childhood. It's hard to work through the trauma, but don't let it fester and eat you alive. We are stronger than the weak people who abused us.

[@rainneixer2386]

Have you seen that Pierce Morgan is interviewing the real girl tomorrow? I honestly think it’s such a joke to even give her the time of day and is so dangerous to open the door for her to comment

[@mumsspaghetti6649]

She deserves to give her side of the story. He made a whole Netflix show about her.

[@JessSnape]

@@mumsspaghetti6649There is many stories about a man stalking a woman and people don’t find the guy and start interviewing him?

[@Poof-y8j]

It's weird that people are actually sticking up for her👀

[@mumsspaghetti6649]

@@JessSnape this man made a whole series on it. This isn't your average stalking case.

[@agnesbrown3117]

@@Poof-y8jI like her 😊

[@almosttogether1776]

As a victim of stalking as a woman and a survivor of child trumatic events who has treated countless men who have been victims of SA and stalking I applaud this show 💛 I also cried heartbroken at your story 💛 there is no perfect victim

[@rearrangingdeckchairs]

I wouldn’t take her word for it that she’s receiving death threats, especially since she also says everyone has been very supportive. 😂

[@bryna7]

Why not? Everyone in the public eye gets death threats...

[@hannahrobinson-mcdermott7331]

My mam made me and my nana watch it with her i think its safe to say all 3 of us were traumatised in some shape or form

[@CamKirkham]

Watching it as a family is crazy😭 Nice family bonding time

[@hannahrobinson-mcdermott7331]

​@CamKirkham Sometimes i wish i wouldn't listen to what my mam and nana say or ask me

[@josiekane7740]

I actually think I understand why they got you to watch it, it's really important for everyone to see the signs in case that sort of thing starts happening to them. It was traumatizing but I think it'll also raise a lot of awareness.

[@bibaolaitan5189]

"Mam", 😂😂. You type like your accent, its funny.

[@bakedpotato1717]

Unrelated, my brother convinced my mom that team America: world police was just another puppets movie so we watched that for family movie night 💀💀💀

[@natisfreezing]

Im scottish and i generally thought she was also scottish. The accent sounded so natual. Also side note, i dont know you but im so proud of you for coming out with a video of your experience with SA. I know what its like to go through it. You are so strong for doing it, and if this show inspired you to come out and speak your truth, im sure someone out there is thinking the same seeing you do the same. Men need a safe space, and im glad it seems to be changing.

[@jasminecolosi8423]

The part when he tells his father STILL gives me goosebumps. He was so afraid to be rejected by his father, but it actually brought them closer together. It's such a heart-wrenching moment and I am grateful for Gadd for sharing his story with us so that others can find strength in it.

[@11ui55]

The fact that people can view the message of a show so differently is truly worrying

[@MaxWinchesterPersonalStylist]

Yep. It happened with Heartstopper when part of the fan base forced Kit to come out. The internet has some toxic people on it

[@esmeecampbell7396]

@@MaxWinchesterPersonalStylist I can guess your politics by the way you say anyone who thinks differently is "toxic"

[@MaxWinchesterPersonalStylist]

@@esmeecampbell7396harassing and bullying people is toxic behaviour. In Kit’s case he shouldn’t have been forced out of the closet. It isn’t acceptable for anyone to be forced out

[@esmeecampbell7396]

@@MaxWinchesterPersonalStylist revealing the truth about someone isn't a crime, we don't criminalise speech in the free world "Comrade"

[@daonlyboriqua11]

⁠@@esmeecampbell7396 Cyberbullying is a crime. Even if it wasnt, its unethical and fked up af to take the most delicate parts of someones life and put it on display without their consent simply because you feel entitled to their story. It is a very toxic way to be and you trying to justify it makes me hope anyone that is your friend runs for the hills.

[@jaskper]

I genuinley dont understand how he managed to film and make this and relive his trauam on repeat. I was in a show playing a character who had vaguely similar trauma to me and it messed me up for like two months I cant even imagine if i had to perform and relive my actual traumas. Im glad its encouraging people to open up about themselves - even if some people are being weird about it hopefully on the whole it will do more positives!

[@Nat_Ash_A]

He has been replaying it for years. Gadd and the Darrien (rapist guy on the show) both worked together to produce the stage show which became successful, and then it went to broadway and then the Netflix series. Not sure if he is still working with Darrien.

[@emilymurdoch6713]

It's a way to gain Mastery over the trauma. It's his choice, under his direction, so in a way he's finding control in the situation.

[@xinex5166]

I don’t think I ever actually cared about who Martha was, Martha could have be anyone. Social media has perpetuated stalking tendencies and tried to normalise them- whether that be ‘stalking your crush on social media’, DMing celebrities or influences regularly even without replies, the weird rise of people showing their security systems, etc etc. I’ll be sympathetic here, because in a perfect world you could tell your story and no one would harass, stalk, and threaten the people involved; but the world isn’t perfect, and if you’re someone with an audience you have to be careful with what you put out there. I do think Gadd was a naive in making the characters so incredibly similar to alleged real life counterparts, as well as stating it’s based on his experience- especially as it is on a platform like Netflix that also has shows like ‘don’t fu*k with cats’ where ‘internet sleuths’ track down an individual who is actively causing harm. People like feeling like a hero, even if they aren’t. I know Gadd did show Martha as a victim and someone struggling, but it simply doesn’t look that way to the average person watching the show; every single piece of mainstream ‘stalker’ media presents them as villains- there’s never nuance, a backstory, or redemption- they purely exist as a hurdle for the protagonist to come out stronger at the end. You can’t just jump from that to assuming people will sympathise with the person because they’ve sat outside for days on end, live in a mess, etc- unfortunately objectivity just isn’t something the wide-scale internet is capable of. People can’t NOT separate themselves from Martha’s character- and as amazing of a job as the actress does, you simply can’t look for something you’ve never seen before. Trying to build the house when you can’t see the foundation will just result in a mess. I don’t think this show has caused people to become stalkers (or very least have similar tendencies as Martha), they all existed long before it ever aired. And to someone with an ounce of critical thinking skills the show is a masterpiece- it’s just a shame such an important story is being overshadowed by something so potently hypocritical and wrong.

[@emotionalfrog]

Very well thought out comment!

[@clairesanightmare]

I’m so so glad this show is encouraging men to come forward about their stories with sa. All men should be able to feel validated about their experiences and it’s so wonderful to see their courage. They’re helping men who don’t feel comfortable talking about their trauma and showing them they’re not alone🩷 well done.

[@cristenstrickland6622]

This show was so raw. I had things in my life happen. And it's nice to see a true portrayal of emotion.

[@natashajaynedevereaux6322]

This show was truly incredible and I can't imagine how difficult - difficult does seem strong enough. - it was for Richard Gadd to relive this trauma. The amount of people that have taken this programme as a comedy, a funny rhetoric is insane. But what's also insane is the amount of people that can relate exactly to how 'Donny' feels.

[@jazclarke6758]

Cam you should check out the statistics of men who have spoken out against SA since this show came out, it’s insane how media like this can make people feel less alone in their experiences we need more of this for sure. 💓

[@anonymouse6703]

I binge watched the show the other night. Both actors were phenomenal and I can't stop thinking about it. I just saw your other video about your SA and yes it absolutely helps to talk about it. I'm almost 50 and just started therapy a couple months ago. It really does help to have a professional, unbiased person who lets you get it all out. You seem like a very mature and moral person, thank you, I'm subscribing.

[@user-xg5mw7gn1c]

this is so well put together. love the sort of like true crime bits like the 'background information' bit. love it cam!

[@CamKirkham]

Thank you! Me and Editor Tom worked really hard on it

[@user-xg5mw7gn1c]

@@CamKirkham love to you and editor Tom

[@siremp4]

dropping this the night before gsces ain’t it cam , meant to be revising but here I am ..

[@Pyituuu]

Literally

[@CamKirkham]

That’s commitment we need

[@hqichou1784]

Frrr i got my higher english exam tomorrow😭😭 gl on your exam!

[@_-TheSleepingBeauty-_]

@Mycabbages9GCSE’s are just the yr 11 exams in the Uk (they might be called that in some other places but idk but I know thats what they are in the Uk) but yeah so they’re just exams basically :)

[@gothwang7646]

taking a pause from your video to congratulate you on speaking out about your own experience with SA. it’s not easy to talk about such a traumatic experience especially as a man whose experienced that. i wish u love protection and healing in your life. ❤️‍🩹

[@shethingsd]

In the Piers interview, Fiona was absolutely unlikeable, while the Martha character was at least sympathetic. Fiona is mean and scary.

[@CamKirkham]

THE DONUTS EATING SO GOOD LIKE MATE

[@jakeyboy203]

Cam ❤

[@jakeyboy203]

Love ur videos i always tune in to watch

[@deliciouscake4971]

I love you and your videos so so so much your so wholesome and inspiring ❤❤

[@freddienewton8510]

need another video after the Piers Morgan interview is out please. I love your opinion on this show. Brilliant show.

[@CamKirkham]

Going to watch it and see what i think !

[@JackSteele-mk9fy]

Apparently piers Morgan has interviewed her and it’s coming out tomorrow

[@jadeshepherd8627]

offff course he did -_- Jesus Christ I feel awful for Richard gadd

[@CamKirkham]

Why has he done that?! Wtf

[@JackSteele-mk9fy]

@@CamKirkham makes good money bc of how popular the show is

[@Siimplybella_]

Why....

[@shethingsd]

​@@CamKirkham I believe Fiona approached him and asked him to interview her

[@nosajdabeno]

As an American, I would be REALLY confused if somebody Tweeted me about hanging curtains. I would probably reply with “I don’t have curtains”. 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

[@kopykat6843]

Same! 😂

[@anthonyhenderson3763]

I love you cam you are one of the most underrated KZbinr there are, your honesty and you humour is insanely relatable and you actually talk about important topics and address issues that plague men’s mental health, thank you for being so open and please keep doing videos

[@Drdre1414]

I’m loving the editing in this ❤

[@CamKirkham]

Editor Tom smashed it

[@itz.mia___yt2947]

I’m so glad that this show helped you and many others come out about personal experiences

[@reneelyndamartinez1362]

My boss encouraged me to watch this. Once I had, he told me about a stalker HE had when he was in his 20s. ☹️ This show truly touched him 😔

[@VerityGradin]

I’m a simple gal, I see a Cam Kirkham video, I click

[@CamKirkham]

As you should

[@thebreaddealer4942]

⁠@@CamKirkham stop right around stop right around

[@Wild_Cherise]

Thanks for making this video and talking about all these difficult subjects. It takes a lot to come out with your own experience, and I admire your strength ❤ Also loved the editing, great job!

[@Aella613]

This show was so disturbing to me, I had to stop multiple times. I was in tears when it ended, with him listening to the last voicemail we hear. I hope Richard is ok, going through all of this again must have been so painful.

[@kristinahernandez564]

This is my first time on your channel, came here because I am also consumed with Baby Reindeer! Lol I really enjoyed this video! I’m glad you pointed out the insanity that followed the show… people are just not right in the head 🤦🏻‍♀️. I really hope you do an update, now that Fiona has done an interview with Pierce, I’d love to hear your take on that! Most of all I am happy to hear that you felt comfortable sharing your own experience. I personally have also been SA and stalked so this story hit home for me too.

[@nathanielryderr]

upset you didn’t mention the relationship he had with a trans woman and the amazing portrayal of growth & understanding with that.

[@kingofravens215]

I think he just wants folks to see the show themselves honestly

[@nathanielryderr]

@@kingofravens215 maybe

[@Hwgt888]

He doesn’t have to marry the situationship with a trans person. I thought trans people were normal? Why talk about something that is normal?

[@nathanielryderr]

@@Hwgt888 it’s normal but not normalized. There’s a difference, which sucks. Mentioning the portrayal of the relationship & his growth to understanding transness is important.

[@PriestessMemory]

6:03 this is exactly what I tell people I don’t want to do to my son. You are a human and you are allowed to not only experience things- good and bad-but you are allowed to have feelings about it! If you are sad cry, if you wanna hug someone do it! We are people! Humans are emotional and we are social creatures to pretend anything else is just denying our basic humanness. I mean I know it is easier said than done but I was raised that my dad would hurt me if he heard me cry-ever. Now as an adult I make sure my kids know that their feelings are valid. I’m 33 and still getting therapy to help me express myself because I was repressed so much I can’t even tell what I’m feeling anymore

[@rubyisace]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE ‼️

[@BreakerLove]

As someone who has been SA and abused by women, I feel uncomfortable around them and will ask for a male when using services such as doctors nurses and anyone whoo would come in personal contact with me. But I get called Sexist or im dismissed or brushed off as being silly. It is sad that as men we are never seen as victims of abuse.

[@Anon-lz1qy]

Sorry to hear about what you went though. Hope you are okay. When you ask for a male, just say it’s for religious reasons. They will not be able to say anything to that, and you don’t have to explain what you went through to a bunch of strangers. Ironically, doctors and nurses are some of the coldest people I’ve ever come across, most of them are in the wrong job.

[@HavianEla]

@@Anon-lz1qyBoy are you right about that, that healthcare workers can be “cold”. This disabled chick could tell you quite a few tales of medical malpractice that have become, frankly, normalized procedures.

[@HavianEla]

You are NOT sexist for having trauma, okay? You’d be sexist if you made generalizations about ALL women being a certain way, but that doesn’t seem the case here. A woman hurt you, badly, and without mental health help and a good support, it WILL skew your view on the opposite gender. As a chick myself, I just want to tell you I greatly respect you coming forward with your trauma. Again, your are not sexist, and you are not silly. You were traumatized and never got the help, support, OR justice that you and EVERY victim of SA deserve.

[@livvyyyyyyyyyyy]

You are valid. You are traumatized, you have a genuine mental reason to feel this way, And you probably know women and men are equal, I’d understand having a reaction of avoidance if you got assaulted. It’s not sexist to have a trauma response.

[@Hwgt888]

It’s YOUR job to heal from your trauma. Litterally be a man what are you good for

[@raycorrigan331]

I genuinely love the editing and feel of this video, I love cams normal videos but this editing and music and vibe just realy hits Love ya cam and good job editors ❤❤❤

[@darin9287]

i love your vids, hope you're healing from your last one.

[@eloiseannette]

this is so incredibly well put together! and you've addressed all aspects of the show and the surrounding drama so eloquently! love to see it cam x

[@kirst.orsomething]

And the thing is, people arent trying to track down the real life people just for the sake of closure and unfolding the mystery. Its for the clout. Because why are they instantly blabbing that they know who it is. Keep it to yourself so everyone can heal, otherwise you're just part of the problem

[@shethingsd]

Excellent point

[@kirbybunny6559]

I really loved the show. My best friend was in a similar Situation like Baby reindeer a few years ago. It was very scary. I myself have a History with SA. We talked a lot about the show and i think we learned a lot about ourselves. Wich makes me think, the Show is very important, as stalking is Something people rarely talk about and if they do, they have this "it can't be this bad" opinion. Like baby reindeers friends I also think it was Impossible to change her character in a way she wouldn't be recognized. Of course she would know, as she sees he made a show about this. But all the others, have absolutely no right to know, let alone harrassing or threaten her. It's just so sad.

[@zanderisamazing5043]

Why would "martha" look so like the alleged real person but derrien does not. If he didn't want the speculation he didn't need to claim it as a true story. Oh, please, don't spread any of the hate i put out therel. The vulnerable woman is a much easier target to put out there than the powerful man. Just saying

[@mamadoom9724]

I bawled my eyes out watching this 😭 it’s the most deeply profound show I’ve seen in a long time, if ever. I can relate to the main characters self destructive masochism in so many ways. Trauma can be so hard to overcome but I like how he shows what a relief it can be when we finally open up about our trauma.

[@h3fan725]

Loved your comments on this cam I too was moved by the show and expressed my mental health more. Stay safe and take it easy dude 😊 keep up good work on ur channel dude,

[@GingerCC-he8be]

Maybe something will be done about SA if people think it is happening more to men, God knows we women can't get anywhere, even though we are the majority of the victims!

[@Ccamero123]

I loved his Dad. Especially when he would fight with Martha on the phone. My Mum was from Glasgow and a real scrapper.🇨🇦

[@ElainaWilliams994]

I recently finished watching Baby Reindeer. I found it very riveting, but it left me feeling pretty sad. When Gadd was stalked by Martha, and then groomed by Darrien, I automatically thought about the terrible people out there who easily take advantage of those who are lonely, too kind, or don't have strong boundaries. After the 1st episode I could relate to Gadd's character in the story. It reminds me of how I've also allowed treacherous people into my life when I was down & lonely.

[@esmeecampbell7396]

17:40 it's not THAT outrageous given how little effort was made to hide "Martha's" real identity. The one thing you could legally do is cast someone who looks a LOT like them, give them a totally different name and just have them talk the same etc. Then if they try to sue you they wouldn't be able to win because you weren't "saying it was them" whereas if you make it someone so totally different that nothing at all is the same you run the risk of accidentally making it look like someone it isn't and actually losing if you get sued by that person.

[@historicaldaily3245]

I just Hope you and Richard are okay in this time. It’s an incredibly hard situation for anyone who’s suffered from either stalking, SA or both. It’s disgusting the behaviour of some people

[@333daughterofchrist]

it's sort of sick how a lot of people will go and attack martha online who, richard himself has even acknowledged is severely mentally unwell and the man feels sorry for her, but they'll attack her instead of look for the man who assaulted richard?

[@kfkkfk7995]

Maybe they don't attack the assaulter because they don't know his identity. You can't just wish to know someone's identity very hard and then bam! You know their identity. Martha gave clues while the assaulter didn't, which is why they found her and didn't find him

[@connorcasola1446]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the editing of this video with the title cards. Another amazing video keep it up Cam!

[@elizabethmarvelfan9033]

Genuinely begging when season 3 of bridgerton comes out that you watch it ❤️😂 love the video as always

[@seanseams6308]

I’ve never felt awkward giving a male family member a hug personally that’s wild lol my dad used to kiss my cheek when I was little 😭😭😭

[@aidensauntieemme]

the way this show was shot was incredible, i love horror movies i love true crime all that nothing ever makes me sick and when i was watching the scenes with darian i was sick to my stomach. it was so well done.. absolutely brilliant seriously

[@brookelynnwu8016]

I actually went thru a lot of similar things Richard gadd shows in his show, it was actually really cathartic watching someone who was able to be so open about thät without shame. Healing almost.

[@blackharvest13]

You would almost think the actress of Martha actually met, knew or even had videos of Fiona to go off of cuz her impersonation of Fiona was so spot on

[@moze2324]

god i feel so bad for richard gadd and cam im so so sorry you went through the traumatic experience 😕

[@arsoncat2146]

I love this style of video it's really cool. Also thank you so much for always being so real, respectful, and kind. It's so refreshing to see a youtuber who also feels like a human

[@torackplays]

I’ve been hoping you’d do a video on Baby Reindeer ever since I watched it!

[@wandorland]

He probably needed the people and situations and things said to be so accurate to help him really purge it all out. I get it. I really feel for the dude.

[@Floss.1e]

I’m so glad he said things that women wouldn’t get away with saying IE that he enabled parts of it and that he found pleasure in parts of it, a man needed to say it because a woman could never get away with talking about those complexities And yeh people are straight up dim as much as I see his vision he should have assumed this would happen a lil bit

[@slantedandenchanted.1992]

You said exactly what I have been thinking. Kudos!

[@tardybloomer]

watching this video right now since i just watched the show! i don't think there's anything wrong with being curious with the case and following up with it to see what's going on or if there are any updates. what's weird is finding out who the real people are and trying to get in touch with them and/or harassing them. and I completely agree with Cam; it's wild to me that everyone's focusing on Martha but almost forgetting about Darrien, the real monster.

[@ahlemlora1452]

Weirdly, people did in real life the thing that the author said he didn't like doing, as in reporting martha but not darrien. Because as he said martha was mentally sick but Darrien was a dangerous manipulator, yet just like the show, people are going after martha yet they haven't put as much effort in identifying Darrien, which hey, I know harassing isn't a good thing but considering what we know throu the show about Darrien, he is a dangerous man and, in my opinion, even if the author didn't report him, that doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to be reported because, the author didn't tell the police about what darrien did to HIM, but someone like Darrien could have had many more victims before and after him so, for other people's safety, the real life Darrien should be identified and jailed.

[@kainlives7958]

Yeah, I hate when rxpists even in fiction don’t get their comeuppances

[@helenewurzburger7975]

nah, it's not me sitting here crying right? (first few minutes (almost half) of your video that is) oh wow, and good job with all the "real life" analysis - havnt heard about any of it

[@mybackhertz]

The dad scene was so emotional. i was at work bingeing it and im like shiiiiit i gotta go cry somewhere

[@raukawa4732]

No doubt this will upset the villagers… What is really disturbing is how people believe the show without question. How can people think that it’s not possible that the show exaggerated the events. People haven’t changed in hundreds of years, a bit of emotion and they lose all sense of fairness and are will to burn the witch at the stake. I’m fairly sure the story was very close to the truth but Martha deserves to give her side of the story.

[@lauraa420x]

I’m sooo glad you’ve made this video this is my favourite show!!! X

[@Ccamero123]

You want to know in the same way people see a horrific car crash yet can’t seem to pull their eyes away.

[@hifellowhumans8393]

Here's to more survivors of SA finally finding the courage to open up after bottling it for so long. Hugs to all of you. ❤❤

[@chelseywalters812]

I'm completely in awe of Richard Gadd for having the mental capacity to go as deep into reliving his trauma to physically act everything out as it happened. It's such a powerful move and really shows his strength and how much he's managed to overcome. Also, Cam, as a fan, I'm so proud of you for putting your own story out there. I hope that coming out with it, benefits you personally just as much as I'm sure other people will feel empowered to speak out with their own stories🫶🏻 I know personally that openly speaking about the people who hurt me was incredibly frightening and almost kinda surreal but it genuinely helped so much. I was able to take back my power and it also helped to give me the ability to personally work through things in my own head after burying them in a dark corner for so long

[@CamKirkham]

You’re amazing for this🙌🏻❤️

[@alikys]

Cam this video is perfection, really enjoyed

[@CamKirkham]

Thank you sm!

[@sascha1031]

loving this style of video cam, so good!!

[@kevc922]

Pears Morgan has an exclusive interview coming out tomorrow, 9th of May with the real stalker aka fiona, and she is sharing her side of the story 😮

[@redwiltshire1816]

You mean pears is gonna bully her live and we will laugh

[@Roblox92552]

No wayyyyy

[@alanaroberts477]

regardless of if it's true or not, they barely tried to hide her identity they used her middle name as the first name and used real posts, she can sue for her identity being sacrificed. netflix never make mistakes like this but it's a channel 4 team that made the 'end of the fucking world' who made this series so i believe that's how it's gotten onto the platform. It's worrying the internet are going for an obviously mentally ill individual.

[@ocdmusic]

It's similar to the way Saville was covered up! Gadd really should be publicly naming this guy to end the speculation and stop this guy who has probably abused others since then!

[@katc.h.desnuts9298]

dude i love the longer deep dive videos

[@luckyskies4567]

This show was so hard to watch, but I'm glad I watched it. Thanks for talking about it ❤

[@marlenaAKAmarz]

I didn’t plan on watching this series but you’ve changed my mind

[@RKhan]

I find myself wanting to watch it again because of how brilliant, artistically, it was, but I am not sure I can go through it again, so how Richard Gadd did it, I do not know.

[@kingofravens215]

Man some folks really just need to leave shit alone because it’s causing more harm than good (it’s understandable that what happened to him is awful but going after a real person is grounds for getting arrested in their own right)

[@ghostdemon7936]

I agree. Common sense seems to disappear when the media audience believe everything they see and hear from a combined factual and entertainment series. People can be fickle and jump on a the band wagon. What I want to know is why Richard Gadd is the self portrayed victim? He said himself he made mistakes and acted inappropriately at times. Effectively, he has chosen to do what he feels "Martha" did to him. He's outed her via a Netflix knowing she was mentally unwell at the time the issues occured. That makes him quite sick in the head actually. Quite frankly, I am glad Piers Morgan is giving the "real Martha" a right to reply. She has that right as she has been outed by Richard Gadd for views and attention. He's handled it all wrong. If anyone can get to the truth, it's Piers Morgan. He doesn't have an ulterior motive to get likes and popularity, he seeks the truth, He's well known for it and he is allowing for the public to get context on the other side of the story Richard Gadd is telling. It's only fair. Heck, even a mass murderer is represented in a court setting! There are 2 sides to every story.

[@kingofravens215]

@@ghostdemon7936 Ritchard is a victim let’s not act like he wasn’t no victim does the “right” thing and report their abuse early on because they’re afraid of judgement and vitriol from their peers and family he tried to get her to leave him be but it wasn’t ever going to work because she’s sick in the head what I was talking about was the fact that some folks shouldn’t go harassing her because she truly thinks she did nothing wrong it’s just how her own delusion works the only real person that someone should find is the producer that he worked with all those years ago because that monster knew what he was doing was wrong and vile.

[@erin5763]

I was always interested in the real life aspect of the story, but specifically the way that it was nice to know Gadd had made his own show and was more than likely not working with his abuser anymore. He was the main character and the fact that he's still living his life, means the story hasn't really ended. As for the villians, obviously Marther is ill and deserves a little consideration from us. Darian deserves nothing, but it is up to his victims to decided when/if they will ever out him.

[@Rebecca-x]

I actually cancelled Netflix because I never found anything interesting on there to watch but then this show come out and I’m like I need to watch this. Resubscribed to Netflix because of this show mainly it’s really good the show. I liked how they really showed empathy, how trauma can really affect and ruin your life if you don’t confront your trauma and how SA ruins your life. I’ve been SA so it was hard. The actress who played Martha she’s incredible! I felt like she embodied that character. I didn’t even feel like I was showing an actress I felt like I was watching an actual person if that makes sense. He’s very transparent and self aware. A lot of people have a victim mindset so I liked how he took accountability on his part that felt very authentic. Really liked the show it’s really good

[@fiona4228]

HG Tudor has done an outstanding job analyzing the Martha character on his channel in a series titled, Baby Reindeer. He's beginning another analysis on the Damien character. Well worth watching.

[@brieoshiro]

Imagine watching a show and then realizing it's all about you. That sounds wild. Anyway I haven't watched it b/c I'm a baby and this sounds terrifying and I was right. No thanks I like sleeping at night. Also that fact the guy that went through it, went through it again for the show is insane. Like maybe that's his therapy but geez.

[@raenfairy]

I'd agree that it's pretty outrageous to just be like 'Oh you look like him. You did it.' Buuuut as you already said, he made sure Martha looked like the real woman behind his stalking, so when soooo many people are saying thinds like 'they look similar.' 'You can see the resemblance.' 'She looks just like her.' It's not too far a throw to assume he's done the same with the rest of the characters. Also he apparently briefly dated the woman who he had cast to play his ex girlfriend Teri.. so maybe there's a resemblance with those two too.

[@zaybug]

my heart breaks for richard gadd, i cant imagine how retraumatizing this has to be for him. why are people giving the “real martha” a huge platform to do this?? the show was absolutely phenomenal and gut wrenching. i’ve never seen such an amazing, well done show. i hope he’s doing okay.