The Babylon 5 Reboot: Everything We Know

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[@MaiAolei]

9 minutes of talking without saying anything

[@wombatillo]

AI generated language I bet. Also wasn't there a huge mistake in the end? B5 had 5 seasons, not one, right?

[@highwayman6805]

Came here to say that very thing.

[@MaiAolei]

@@wombatillo I didn't actually get that far, but it wouldn't surprise me. EDIT: And correct, B5 had five seasons.

[@cptnoname]

Thanks for saving us all the time! Much appreciated

[@ChrisWar666]

​@@wombatillothat sentence was talking about Crusade, which did actually have only one series. But yeah, big pile of crap

[@tortysoft]

Just because you have software that can paste each word onscreen, you don't have to do it. Hint Don't do it.

[@hartoz]

Yeah the text was annoying, thought I was going to get a migraine.

[@garyrichards6079]

The commentary sounded AI generated ... Needs to stop and take a breath !! ...

[@Whisper555]

And 9 minutes of not telling us anything of any substance

[@SomeRandomGuy407]

Kinda seems like chatgpt was used in the making of his speech to me.

[@MaraIndigoJade]

'Kinda'?! What was you're first clue? 🤔😉

[@fireborn]

I love how the AI voice repeats itself 100382660 times without saying it the same way twice.

[@simonoleary9264]

Mark Pedowitz hasn't been involved with the CW since 2022. So based on the first 50secs of this video, it is VERY out of date. The "new" CW have officially DROPPED the B5 reboot (along with almost everything else), concentrating more on cheap, disposable, "reality" TV crap for their programming. At last count, according to JMS himself, WB were considering making the show themselves, either for HBO Max or for a third party streaming service - but this decision was delayed by the writers & actors strike. Best of my knowledge, a final decision has not been publicised.

[@heroicnonsense]

You beat me to it - this video is based on old information. At the moment, a B5 reboot is very far from becoming a reality.

[@misjamaununen9618]

Good news I don't think CW can make anything good.

[@hartoz]

Sorry the narrative was off on this video, too wordy, it sounded like it was written by ChatGPT.

[@protorhinocerator142]

"Using original cast members..." Except that B5 is infamously "cursed" by the fact that most of the original cast died soon after completing the series. There will be no reboot with the original cast. You might have one or two cameos from surviving cast members, but that's about it.

[@sjmcc13]

Wasn't it only Franklin and G'Kar's actor who dies soon after, others have passed but they were all after more then a decade.

[@MaraIndigoJade]

Sinclair Garibaldi Franklin G'kar Delenn Vir Zach

[@Cr0ssfire78]

AI generated bloat... wish youtube would ban channels like this one -.-

[@petersmith6513]

Seriously? "It's a complete reboot" "A lot of shows are getting cancelled well before their fifth season in this climate of streaming services" "Some people would still like to see a reboot of Babylon 5" There. I just saved you nine minutes of word salad.

[@ladwigs]

continuations could be nice to see, like was Bester killed before he could get his hands on Leta's body, or was her body used, to add more telepath levels

[@mikejapp9504]

Everybody knows that character on the left side is not in Babylon 5. It's Bruce B's president from The Orville.

[@KaneinEncanto]

There's a Klingon Cruiser at 5:09, too... for some reason.

[@TheFlyingDogFish]

Was this made by an AI? Because it sure sounds like that.

[@FireAllOfEverythingAtOnce]

New drinking game: take 1 shot after each use of the words, "essence", "legacy", & "cult". Time before you pass out from alcohol poisoning: 6 minutes 30 seconds.

[@graxxor]

What the fk are those words doing appearing and disappearing? SO SO ANNOYING. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[@borusa32]

I think a heavy dose of skepticism is called for-we got the animated special, I doubt there will be anymore coming.

[@sywilson73]

as a standard Babylon 5 fan I see the bigger picture in warfare , so that being said , I was thinking about a cross over and star trek would not be good . A good cross over would be that the technomages (or whats left of them) show b5 explorers how to meet other explorers by taking them "off the beacon" to an abandoned supergate/stargate that links to the outer range of the Destiny or a 9th chevron address .even if its just a few episodes I think the B5 and stargate universes would mesh quite well ...Also stargate team/cast are eager to continue their stories too. PLEASE Mr Straczynski I know you are very protective of your baby but a child has to have friends.

[@8Quietscheente]

Stop watching, it's dumb ai shit. And let's hope the reboot never happens, because it would definitely be shit as well.

[@MetalMalc]

The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.

[@jameshead9119]

Personally I would of gone with the new show being based on Babylon 4 During its time in the first war shadow war or after being rediscovered sometime after “ sleeping in the light “ say by being placed in mothballs at he end of the war or being time jumped forward for some reason ( just to say I was never a big fan of “ crusade “ and be happy to see it reckoned out )

[@sundragon7703]

One of the basic issues of Babylon 5 was it's an expensive program with respect to its funding infrastructure. (For example, Star Trek had a significantly bigger "war chest" to fund programs. While Babylon 5 does not.) Every season ended with the audience crossing their fingers while hoping for series renewal. There were several periods of the series ending up in limbo as it was one of the last announcements for renewal. The financial issues really do not interest fans; however, it is at the heart of projects happening or not.

[@karikosonen556]

THERE is my video clip in 6:33 !!!!!

[@eurosat7]

Can you please do a compressed version leaving out all that "expectation" stuff? Too many words - Due to my medication I can't follow you in this video.

[@jamescagley6248]

I am generally apprehensive of reboots, but if it means more Babylon 5, I'm so ready for it! I'm not thrilled with this video. It didn't say anything about 'everything we know' it was all about the show's past and speculation about the future - not facts. Do better, please. The title is very misleading about the reboot information.

[@andrewkonopka1152]

in a sense this reboot is like a jjverse of Babylon 5 sounds like the ships with look similar ,but not identical and I bet the characters too more alien different humans younger older ethnic "female teenage Zatheras" maybe AK

[@killingragethrowback]

Without Babylon 5, we might not have series like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Batttlestar Galactica (2004 series) and so many others. It proved that high concept, well written shows in a serial format can work. People aren't only looking for episodic shows where each episode is self contained, we wanted continuity. We wanted a narrative where each episode had us paying close attention to all details. We wanted engagement.

[@theplaintech]

Thankfully, I have DVDs. Streaming quality has ruined everything and B5 looks and sounds terrible now. There's no optimism here.

[@stormcrow4423]

well said

[@cosmic4037]

Hope so

[@deniseboldea1624]

The series was too perfect for a from the ground up reboot. If they want to pick it up sometime after Sheraton's passing that would be fine, but leave the original alone.

[@JPFalcononor]

I do not have much hope that this series will be any good. Why? Because the CW, with the exception of Louse and Clark, early Flash, and Arrow, went down the path of producing crap, on a very consistent basis.

[@SynthAddict]

fingers crossed but not sure how this will pan out funny how the AI voice doesn't know how to say saga, and makes it sound like the game company Sega 🙂

[@JSizzlicious]

Ugh, AI voice-over and the insistent text onscreen. Channel is blocked.

[@Paul_nutfrom80s]

I wish I could be excited been hoping for this. With all the insanity leftist woke nonsense is bringing to television I’m more concerned for the franchise.

[@kylaproject]

"Updated for a Modern Audience" No thank you.

[@Eudaimonist]

As far as I understand the situation, this reboot is dead at this point. Sadly. This is one of the few pop shows that could actually benefit from a reboot.

[@waynebrewer1901]

Uh-oh... Sounds like they may try to update to appeal to "Modern Audiences"... SMH. Please not another atrocity like the Star Wars sequels or "modern" Trek!

[@exexpat11]

PUT A WOMAN IN IT AND MAKE IT GAY!

[@daveb1930]

Babylon 5 fans think they want this, but they really don't. You're better off waiting 10 years for the identity politics trend to fade away, you might actually get a decent show.

[@ongwehias7580]

aka "dave hates the ethnics." great form there bub.

[@danp1980]

People only engage in identity politics when they are discriminated against based on their identity. Stop treating people as lesser because they aren't like you, and identity politics might finally go away.

[@earlnoli]

i hope they dont wokefy this one like StarWars

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

Could you please cut out that stupid text at the bottom, it's incredibly distracting. You make a wonderful video that's nicely edited but this blinking text - which keeps changing position and font and colour - is ruining it.

[@Trebbor1958]

as long as they dont go woke.... it should be good.....

[@Procopius464]

Is the new one going to be gay and woke? I get a bit nervous whenever they say "new" or "modern" audience.

[@vulcanus7127]

Delenn was originally going to be male and then change to female during her transformation, but they couldn't get the voice change software to modify the actress's voice authentically enough and abandoned the idea. If technology had allowed, the original show would have been much more queer with a very direct portrayal of a trans character that undergoes transition onscreen. What we got can still be read as a trans allegory quite easily. Talia and Ivanova were always intended to be a lesbian couple. That was interrupted by Andrea Thompson leaving the show. And isn't there an episode where Marcus and Stephen go undercover casually as a gay couple? Personally, I cherish this show for how queer it was for its time. Which makes your comment hilarious to me.

[@Procopius464]

@@vulcanus7127 Well, I just have your word to take for that, but even if they had done that it wouldn't have gone over very well in the 90s. Even now most people aren't gay and don't want to see it, so if they do that they will crash the series. Yea I remember that about Marcus and Stephen, and found it to be cringe, but at least they didn't actually do any of that. Most people don't want woke and gay. Maybe you do, but every franchise they do that with crashes. They lose money, they can't sell toys, and they also can't sell it in China where gay scenes are illegal.

[@vulcanus7127]

@@Procopius464 Actually, google is a thing, so you don't have to just take my word for it! As far as franchises crashing over being "woke and gay," I haven't noticed that as a trend. I *have* noticed things like the Barbie movie being wildly successful despite the "woke" messaging in it being clunky, heavy-handed, and milquetoast (from my perspective as a "woke gay," at least). It seems to me like bluntly pandering halfheartedly towards liberal values is wildly successful in today's market. Even the banks are doing it! (Which I find kinda annoying, if I'm being honest.. Rainbow capitalism isn't exciting at all.) But be honest, when you wrote your first post, were you expressing that you were worried about the show not making money, or were you worried about having to face that cringe feeling? Because I'm here to tell you that you can get that cringe feeling for free right now by googling "Delenn trans" or even just scrolling to the bottom of her wikipedia page!

[@jeramiahcox6976]

Sounds like they plan to woke it up. Sad.

[@biocapsule7311]

And you sound like an easy mark for right-wing propaganda, who has never watched the original series. The type of propaganda the series warned about. Because the original series is one of the most 'woke' series of it's time and practically prophetic in it's political analysis. *JMS has ALWAYS been woke.* If you are in denial, you should asked yourself why and when have you start using the word 'woke' as a pejorative? Because most people don't even know of the term until right-wing media rebrand it as something "unseemly", like they always do to positive words. You should ask yourself why people like you to get sucker into adopting conservative narrative just because it got regurgitated by popular talking head. Because that's the really sad part. If you have actually watched the show before, then you have either learn nothing, or as G'Kar puts it best "you have learned the wrong lessons".

[@robbhowell]

Lots of word salad, little information. This video sounds like an AI scrape.

[@MrAnimal1971]

A "re-imagined" universe would be great. A multiverse view is interesting too. Don't mess with the original. I would even like a high quality animation which would further set it apart from the original. In whatever vision, the stories and characters must be inspiring. The state of doom and gloom in media is no longer wanted.

[@stephenshell7678]

So tired of lazy writing using multiverse concepts to correct errors

[@user-ti1gx2hy5m]

also dump the ai bullsihit

[@chronobot2001]

I truly loved B5 but I'm afraid any reboot will have a bunch of woke nonsense in it. It seems like every recent show is contaminated with the woke garbage agenda.

[@jimseibyl5140]

Nothing of value here….moving along….

[@Joisey11]

I, for one, simply can't wait for this reboot for modern audiences, and look forward to the adventures of Jane Sheridan as they/them battles aliens while navigating z'hir's lesbian romance with D'Lenn. /s

[@minirock000]

The narration was pretty good, almost thought it wasn't a bot but they are always screwing up pronunciations aren't they. They better not screw this up like they did Star Trek, Star Wars, and the new Dune.

[@ViroVV]

Well its not like a true continuation was even possible considering more than half the princial cast is dead and buried. I also dont have a lot of faith in this project. While Strazinski produced some good TV, most of his resume is kinda mid to downright terrible. His time has came and went. I dont see him being able to produce something more engaging to modern audience by basically rebooting the series while removing the 1990s trappings it is dressed in. There are a lot of reasons why DS9 was the better show and now looking back one is timeless and one is painfully dated.

[@mparkes1821]

Yep AI bullshit with no real content, channel in it for the clicks only avoid like the plague 😢

[@warshrike666]

I am a hard core B5 fan and i am not excited about them butchering the original story. Leave it alone, if you want to flesh out the B5 universe and add to it then fine i am all in for that. As for redoing the whole thing fuck that, a lot of the legends that made B5 what it was are now gone and can never ever be replaced. Simply out of respect leave it alone go make another story in the B5 universe.

[@jnng2058]

Eh, I can see your point but I can't really agree with it. The original show will alwys be there for you....I've still got all the DVD boxed sets, and you probably do too. But the farther we go into the future, the harder it is to sell a retro '90s show to today's audiences. If JMS can keep the quality of the writing up, I'd be happy to give it a shot. Think of it like BSG. The existence of the 2000s show doesn't erase the original '70s version. And however much I don't think it ended very well, BSG 2000s was a great show with some incredible episodes that really grab you. If b5 v2 can do the same? Then go for it. Might as well do it now with JMS alive and still in charge than wait another decade until some other guy is the one doing it just for the brand recognition. At least this way we know the guy in charge cares about getting the story right!

[@warshrike666]

@@jnng2058 Yeah mate i would agree if it turned out like Bsg i didn't think of that but with todays woke i am worried that it will be ruined like everything else. Look at all the reboots and how fucked up they are now. Look at all the trouble with Ryan and Disney over deadpool 3. I dont have faith that JMS can fight all that. Look at what has happened to Dr Who as well its just i dont trust they wont butcher it.

[@jnng2058]

​@@warshrike666 Eh, I think it's too early to worry about that. It's not on Disney+ where all the edges are going to get sanded off (Andor aside). I'm more concerned about what it says in this video that the B5 reboot is still supposed to be coming out on the CW. I'd thought that it had been dropped by CW and picked up by MAX, but this video says otherwise. I had concerns about the CW giving the show adequate funding BEFORE they canceled all the Arrow-verse shows and went super cheap with their remaining output. Granted, if anyone can make B5v2 work on a shoestring budget, it's JMS who put together the original show for half as much per episode as the Trek shows that were airing at the same time, but even so I'm worried about visual quality. Today's modern digital 4k cameras don't let you get away with cheap sets and dodgy alien makeup the way you could back in the '90s. To say nothing about how far digital effects have gone compared to the old days, both in quality but especially in expense. Historically, JMS was pretty good about standing up to the suits. Yes, they made him include "a hotshot fighter pilot" in season two, but JMS used him for the bare minimum number of episodes he contractually had to, then killed him at the end of the season, and the suits quit meddling. But speaking of Doctor Who, that does seem to be a viable comparison. After all, Russel T. Davies is back showrunning Who after 15 years away from the show. And personally, I don't think the new Who specials he produced (ironically enough on Disney+) were all that different from his first run on the show, even if bringing back Tennant and Tate for three of them was the height of self-indulgence. Gatwa's first solo special was pretty fun, and I'm actually looking forward to his full series this spring. Maybe the new B5 will suck. Maybe there will be studio meddling, dodgy effects, B- and C- tier actors, and no meaningful advertising budget and all of that will contribute to the show being a wasted effort. Maybe. But then again, the original B5 had studio meddling, dodgy effects, B- and C- tier actors, and no meaningful advertising budget, and it remains my favorite TV show of all time. Maybe it's too much to hope for that lightning will strike twice. But what if it can? Might as well let them try and see what happens, eh?

[@warshrike666]

@@jnng2058 I get what you are saying and u have way more confidence then i do thats for sure. Everything is WOKE now. I do not understand how u can like the new Dr Who i will not watch it i havn't since they turned him into a woman. Dr Who and Bab 5 are my most most fav Sci-fi i was watching Dr Who in the 70's thats how old i am. That is also why i am so disgusted by it now, it is not Who anymore and hasn't been since Mat Smith left who imo was better then Tenant. Like you said tho all we can do is wait and see what happens. i wont hold my breath tho. 😟

[@jnng2058]

@@warshrike666 To each their own. I've been watching Who since the early '80s, starting with Tom Baker reruns on PBS. Every Sunday night, watch Benny Hill, Dave Allen at Large, then Dr. Who. And I'll agree that Matt Smith was my favorite of the New Who Doctors, followed by Capaldi. And for that matter, I didn't care for the Chibnall/Whitaker era of Who, though though where we differ is that It didn't bother me that they gender flipped the Doctor. After all, Missy was my favorite version of the Master since Delgado. No, what bothered me about Chibnall's era was the writing, and that it was a mistake to introduce three companions at the same time. Every time there werre multiple companions in the past, they were introduced gradually so you got to know them as they went along. Adric, then Tegan, then Nyssa. Amy, then Rory. Dumping three new companions all at once made it hard to connect to any of them, especially whle trying to get to know a new Doctor at the same time! For all that, Chibnall's gone and Davies is back. If you liked the Tennant/Davies era, you should at least give the specials a shot. Mybe you won't like 'em. Certainly possible. But I thought they were decent, and I actually quite enjoyed he final one of the four.

[@bja2477]

Nothing new - just a load of pointless AI crap!

[@exexpat11]

Babble, repeat, Babble. Nothing about what it could look like. Utter waste of a video.

[@markmcminn5100]

A computer VO, plus nothing human to tell = failure. B5 a great series. Crap KZbin channel.

[@thebluestig2654]

If JMS has anything to do with this, and he's openly admitting to a ground up reboot, it's going to be absolute TRASH pushing modern political ideologies that nobody wants to hear about anymore.

[@JoshuaFare]

That's why I quit watching most tv, I pretty much just watch Kolchak, & Black Sheep Squadron, I would rather remember B-5 as it was rather than the worthless woke crap that will be insisted upon to push a liberal snowflake agenda

[@micketm3]

🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 no reeboot !!! Just continue the story... in the far future or something...

[@TotalyRandomUsername]

I watched it years later and at this time the never good cgi was to outdated. Also i did not like the actors. So a reboot could be brilliant. Unless they shit the woke all over it.

[@juliobittner897]

More woke shit.