The Bad Science of Micellar Shampoo

[@maxximumb]

I like that they use Aqua as their main ingredient on the bottle rather than just water.

[@ThePikmania]

lol do they really?

[@Cheers.-]

It's because of regulations, not to make it look fancy!

[@simonderyck9309]

That’s only for the USA. Europe it’s water.

[@Cheers.-]

@@simonderyck9309 Nope, it's aqua as well

[@johnpaulturk2487]

To be fair, it says that on any product that contains water.

[@iKylaAwesome]

As a chemist, I have always been flabbergasted by Pantene's micellar shampoo. You remember that scene in The Devil Wears Prada, "Florals? For spring? Groundbreaking." I have that same sarcasm when it comes to this. Hahaha!

[@darkscienceyt]

Hahaha!

[@MegaAdeny]

The worst part for me is that I have known for ages now about exactly how soap works, that it's the same principle in all kinds of cleaning products, and even that the molecule aggregations are called micelles. And yet, I never connected the dots and realized on my own that "micellar" water and "micellar" shampoo are simply referring to the damn fundamental mechanism! At least I not knowing how things work makes me doubt them rather than buy them...

[@shespawntwin1]

@Lucas Zhu micellar water is literally a product sold to women to clean off makeup. That's why the comment separates the two products, because they are sold as 2 "different" products. Some cleansers appear more "watery" less viscous, while others are thicker and feel "more oily or balmy"- more viscous. Example- miscellar water vs ponds cold cream. Both are used to remove makeup etc.

[@mustangnawt1]

Ha, same:)

[@helenamcginty4920]

Way back in my long ago youth make up became more " natural" looking. After the excesses of the Cleopatra phase then Biba type colours a sort of back lash. Then I became a single mother and couldn't afford such fripperies and gradually stopped using the stuff. I still have some but no idea why. Its dried up or gone off now. No one notices you much once you reach 60 or so so you can start to live comfortably. 😊

[@helenamcginty4920]

I left 60 behind 15 years ago as well.

[@MajinSayon]

The smug shade thrown at the companies in this video is simply divine.

[@mimipham17]

Thanks for exposing these companies! I hadn't even heard of micellar shampoo. Although, I think I'll still continue to use micellar water for removing makeup though. From my experience, using it to remove makeup is better than using just soap on your face, makeup remover, or even a face cleanser. I use it to wipe away the rest of the makeup that the cleanser didn't get, especially around the eye area. It also doesn't burn as much as makeup remover wipes. It's also pretty inexpensive so even if it's just gimmicky, it won't really have drastic effects on my life.

[@JanAly]

I know this is 3 years old but change the rag you use. There’s this specific fluffy rag that my friend introduced me to that works wonders and is reusable. I just use plain old water and it’s more effective than makeup wipes.

[@hiimjean]

Was searching for a review on Pantene’s “micellar shampoo” because I saw it at the grocery store yesterday. So glad I came across this video because this just proves that marketing can have a huge impact on consumerist behavior. I’m glad I didn’t give into the packaging and advertistments on the shelves right away, and instead saw this. Thank you! Am subscribed now and will continue to watch more videos. Hopefully your channel grows even more!

[@coleweede1953]

Man I want to see this channel grow

[@dancerTiki]

unfortunately, it is not gonna grow because it is not profitable for youtube for it to promote it since this channel does not promote a product or certain agenda and directing viewers to the third-party companies, so sad

[@codeblxc]

Hope it does

[@coolpans7417]

@@dancerTiki ? They are ads on the video.

[@manuelroger1035]

How big was it at the time you wrote this comment? I'm just curious 🙂🤔

[@GreenituIjo]

I dream. One day, your channel has become successful, every videos has subtitles for my language to educate my less "science" woke friends.

[@iateyursandwiches]

The idea is that it doesn't strip the natural oils from your hair. A lot of people(mostly women, especiallycurly girls) are DEATHLY afraid of sulfates in their shampoos these days and shampoo in general for some reason, so they push for sulfate free alternative to clean their hair without '"stripping " everything. This is silly of course since there are plenty moisturizing shampoos and even COLOR shampoos(shampoos that preserve the vibrancy of your dyed hair)with sulfates... and of course, due to what you just said. That being said, micellar water shampoo itself probably isn't that effective at deep cleansing if it doesn't have some detergents in it. The argument, especially the facial ones, is that it is able to make the detergents even more efficiently form micelles.

[@Brooo007MC]

Oh man, if only truth in advertising laws were actually enforced. I honestly wonder how profitable a legal firm would be from taking down all this bogus stuff.

[@erikb4407]

In America, I'd assume you'll only be able to make money doing that if your team of lawyers is better funded and/or more skilled than the defendant's lawyers

[@anter11]

I mean, they are enforced. And (In America at least) they're working as intended You see, you can only be sued for falsely advertising if you actually false advertise. And saying that your shampoo is micellar isn't exactly a lie, if your making shampoo it is micellar by default

[@Brooo007MC]

@@anter11 No, there is no statutory regulator in the US actively pursuing and enforcing misleading advertising, it's entirely self-regulating. As you can see with BS like superfoods etc, it does not work when the industry colludes to mislead customers.

[@geidirodriguez3581]

One thing I’ve heard a lot in commercials that annoy me is when they say stuff like “new nano- technology” or “it has been scientifically proven to…”

[@michaeljemery]

Pantene Micellar Shampoo comes in a pump bottle that dispenses a completely clear gel-like shampoo. That gives it an awesomely amazing novelty value that I highly recommend. It also works about the same as every other shampoo I have ever used.

[@stagnantfox3027]

what I got from this: Micellar water (the stuff you use on your face) is basically a scam. Just slightly soapy water.

[@maxximumb]

I only use all natural fatty acids in the potent solvent dihydrogen monoxide on my hair.

[@stagnantfox3027]

@@maxximumb jesus you darn rebel! How bold of you.

[@sintaxera]

I believe the whole point of micellar water as a thing is that it uses a particular formulation of soap that is somehow different than the regular soap in regular shampoo. I mean, I doubt this is actually the case, but it might be worth looking into. Micellar water can apparently be used without rinsing. 99% sure its bullshit marketing wank, and I'm a bald guy so I have no interest in this whatsoever, but it might have a teeny tiny kernel of something legit that has been blown completely out of proportion like normal

[@mimipham17]

From my experience, using it to remove makeup is better than using just soap on your face, makeup remover, or even a face cleanser. I use it to wipe away the rest of the makeup that the cleanser didn't get, especially around the eye area. It also doesn't burn as much as makeup remover wipes.

[@stagnantfox3027]

@@mimipham17 I mean if you use make up, you probably should use the double cleanse system in the first place. That's just what I've been told many times now.

[@Mr371312]

Mycellar used for daily cleaning actually uses half of the sulfates as not to strip oils entirely. It is hard to "google" the idea of mycellar if you're unfamiliar with cosmetic chemistry.

[@backwoodsjunkie08]

Awesome video! You keep exposing these dirtbag companies!

[@SECONDQUEST]

Good to know. My stupid friends are always drawn in by stuff like this and "toxins"

[@merlynnthegreat]

The only product I've seen and used that's micellar that's remarkable is a prescription ear cleaner for pets. We give it to pets with extra gross ears that can't have the added irritation of an acidic cleaner.

[@zenxen7668]

Dude I love these videos, every time they end I always get so mad, wish there were more haha

[@askhowiknow5527]

2021: The year when your product not working correctly is a selling point. The year of gluten free bananas.

[@Eli_Skipjack]

Ok, a few things you may have missed as a non cosmetics type a guy- “micellar water” is a real thing. A popular form of makeup remover is just called “micellar water.” It is basically just surfactants and water that is meant to break down cosmetics and then wipe off without residue. I think the reason these marketers are choosing to call these shampoos “micellar shampoo” is because they think their target demographic will associate the cleansing ability of micellar water products to the cleansing ability of their shampoo. Is it still total BS marketing meant to be deceptive? Oh yeah. Is it scummy and should be called out? Absolutely. But thought I’d add this context because I’m not sure if you were familiar with “micellar” products in the cosmetics market.

[@yumehigari2214]

😅idk if i should explain.... Micellar shampoo is actually a bit different in their constitution. Many shampoos do cause irritation because of high non fatty emollient contents like panthenol or glycerin that do not effectively slip off from the scalp. Adding lower than 1% oil in a formula will solve the issue. Fast absorbing oils mimicking sebum is used in this case. Nothing will remain to buildup in the scalp and cause irritation or dandruff. The name Micellar technology does not come from forming "micells" but rather some emulsifying agents which were newly invented to aid dissolving low percent oil. With regular emulsifier atleast 7% oil has to be added or seperation might occur. Plus these emulsifiers cause drandruff in many people. Without emulsifier some surfactants do allow oil dissoolving but at very low percentage with high chances of seperation with time. 😅.. 😅... The manufacturer probably told them abt the micellar technology. The advertising agency had no idea this teach aint the same as the common micellar property if surfactants😂😂😂😂... I didn't know the products that are being sold in the market... Didnt know these were marketed this way... Its ..... Funny... 😂yes micellar shampoo is better if formulated correctly. ... 😅sad most people dont know the full story. And never will know.

[@lisayuan]

even though the underlying 'technologies' are the same in all soaps and detergents, you can't deny that there are obvious differences in products like micellar water to other facial cleansers. (perhaps its the absence of lathering agents??) and as such there COULD be a difference in micellar shampoos to other shampoos?

[@xaviergarcia8342]

Of course. Every brand formulate their products differently, and that matters. I mean, I don’t use the shampoo that I use because of what I watched in a TV commercial, but because it suits my hair type, the weather of the country I live in, etc. Not because all shampoos are meant to clean means every shampoo will suit you. L’Oreal Micellar Shampoo works differently on my hair than their Keratin Shampoo or their Protein Shampoo, etc.

[@pituniloveu]

Wowww... I can't imagine I could find and ưatch this video when searching for Pantene Micellar Shampoo review!!! What a great and interesting video! Thanks for sharing

[@darkscienceyt]

You're so welcome!

[@inquisitorthornside3p494]

That is literally the stufff people learn in 5-6 grade chemistry.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

It's funny how Snake Oil salesman never left. They just refined and polished their snake oil "technology"

[@kalamay]

I've always noticed that companies that produce, market and sell shampoo have the highest concentration of bullshit on their marketing. It's hilarious

[@maxximumb]

New Generic Shampoo, it's got soap!

[@leonheart84]

I think you should look into what micelles actually mean. They can be way more complex than a single layer of soap molecule. There’s something called critical micellar concentration

[@autumntriesthings]

Thanks for this! This is why I hate marketing and people in marketing lmao

[@darkscienceyt]

ya me too

[@alexforce9]

No such thing as bad marketing. There is only successful and unsuccessful ones.

[@agnesstrzykowska4300]

And have you seen some products made of " gluten-free corn"? Corn does not have gluten if it's not added during the production process...

[@ir3188]

The shoe polish vinegar gag was one of the best yet

[@Wulfjager]

The only notceable differences between soaps is whether that soap is designed for thin or coarse hair. I have very fine hair so i need a shampoo that isnt too strong or my hair becomes drier than the sahara

[@karlvalteroja4675]

Wasn't there some unspoken rules for conversation that forbid this? Nothing strict, just that we don't say things that are obvious. Like: "asbestos free cereal" or sth. I think Tom Scott did a video on em

[@Matygos]

Send this video to every dumb high school teenager who says "BuT wHy AM I LeArNiNG ThIS iTs GoOD fOr NotHIng iN mY LiFE"

[@hateeternalmaver]

Love the: "I'm not saying..." =D

[@عليالمرسومي-ب5ظ]

finally a new video

[@kanjakan]

I feel bad that I get this watch awesome content like this for free. You strike the perfect balance of simplification and complexity.

[@JamesKelly89]

I think Volkswagen never actually claimed that their TDI cars were environmentally clean but rather that they were clean relative to other diesel passenger cars which were notorious for odor and soot. Ever since the recall campaign where VW installed new firmware following the settlement my Jetta now smells like a barbeque grill whereas there was no odor before the firmware update.

[@SweBeach2023]

I'm sure many of these companies so their best to improve the quality of the product as well, but we don't buy schampo after reading peer-reviewed studies, we do so after hearing buzzwords and watching a beautiful model flick her hair back and forth. If all soap and schampo were equal the 1 dollar bottles found at discount stores wouldn't be so bad at doing their job.

[@DanSpotYT]

Yeah, technology, amazing, essence and such used in marketing makes me even more leery.

[@aSm8full]

Brilliant video

[@darkscienceyt]

thanks!

[@kittyblackwood5459]

Instead of Aqua as the 1st ingredient they should say dihydrogen monoxide. Makes it sound extra fancy and it'll trip a lot of ppl up lol. 🤯

[@cender2122]

I can't wait for the day I get to use this information

[@DeadxBreadx]

Everyone. Do your own research. You're better than this.

[@lishd]

what... what in the heck is FOOT LETTUCE

[@darkscienceyt]

look it up on KZbin.

[@lishd]

@@darkscienceyt oh that's... a highly disturbing response. well done.

[@JafoTHEgreat]

The short clip, the girl said "Long popular in France" Not "imported from France" lol Illuminati confirmed.

[@mustangnawt1]

Found this out the hard way. Mistake for contact solution. Put soap & water in my eyeball

[@sphakamisozondi]

This water from England, has an active ingredient called hydrogen oxide. Which is vital for carbon base life on earth

[@GreenituIjo]

If it's too good to be true. It isn't

[@bobbler2]

So soap is magical wow!

[@brownsugarissupreme]

I usually appreciate videos that promote skepticism, but these kinds of videos fail at being complete. As someone who watched Lab Muffin Beauty Science, I learned that theres so much more to beauty products and cosmetic chemistry that not many lay people know. Obviously, have enough sense to see through the bullshit of capitalism. But you also participate in the bullshit if you sell the simple idea of "its all fake"

[@nobodyatallvallejo3672]

Brawndo's got the electrolytes that plants crave! 💪

[@juliachang4810]

Does shampoo made for african american hair also micellar? I only ask because it's specifically made for hair that doesn't make its own oil like how Asian or Caucasian hair.

[@sophiemay9645]

isnt it possible that the cleansing agents used in products with micells advertised are more gentle that other surfectants like SLS making it mor suitable for people with sensitive skin?

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

So micellar water is basically shampoo with no odorizing nor colour

[@Svartalf14]

micellar water? sure, we French love to put soap in our water when washing....

[@J-Healy]

this is crazy because after watching this I looked into it and it doesn't say anywhere about them being the same thing, it says there's a difference because micellar shampoo is milder and doesn't remove natural oils and other stuff like that, plus a load of micellar shampoos have extra stuff added like they change the pH and whatnot but I'm not sure any of that does anything, (not to say this isn't true though I think it is but its just weird I can't find it anywhere else)

[@keroberos2781]

I have rather oily hair and only that kind of shampoo keeps it not oily while still not being super dry. I don’t know if it’s the same case for everyone with oily hair but it works better than regular shampoo for me.

[@akshayamodkar8901]

Thanks for such great info. Love from India

[@leslieroycroft3569]

Skipped ahead to get past the BS at two minutes 30 seconds of not getting to the point narrator says “to make a long story short“ WTF

[@ayatotakema1194]

Mannnnn I got pulled into the gimmic

[@TylerDurden-oy2hm]

Dr Kerl looks super uncomfortable in the advert....its almost like she doesnt want to be there...hmm kinda awkward

[@shanehungerford1165]

Can you please do a video on electro culture

[@jetfuel_]

> 1 year ago > 9k views Big shampoo

[@brovid-19]

watching this made me want to take a shower..

[@hydroaegis6658]

I've tried many brands of shampoo. The end result is they're all the same.

[@steele1485]

Try telling this to your wives. Lol

[@cutthroat399]

My wife is very susceptible to these kinds of gimmicky products.

[@bryeap]

so what shampoo would you guys recommend?

[@xXevilsmilesXx]

wtf is mouse cell?

[@sirch2038]

It's what mice are made of.

[@ichangedmynamelol2795]

those 8 dislike are from ____________

[@zchettaz]

So0o0o.. Instead of degreaser, I should use this to get the oil off my driveway.. .. Or maybe I should use degreaser to wash my hair 🤔

[@jerry3790]

Happy new decade

[@merepuppets]

does anyone know what's the movie/tv show title about ciggies in the video?

[@brettcooper3893]

Your hair is only as good as the products you use on it, and then men wonder why their hair looks like shit and they're using Head & Shoulders.

[@mochipii]

And the tobacco company blamed it on fat in food as the cause of heart attack

[@possummagic3571]

I thought that was Ancel Keys?

[@whyareallnickstaken]

Are you related to anything polish or is that polish listerine picture a coincidence? 😀

[@SurajGrewal]

Like Apple's magic

[@robertolara3820]

I want a Sedal shampoo

[@AG-en5y]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@masotheripper4232]

I just use soap tbh

[@Sarablueunicorn]

First 2020 video.

[@darkscienceyt]

last vid of 2019 actually

[@sharpnelshots]

We need morem

[@darkscienceyt]

coming up

[@sharpnelshots]

@@darkscienceyt Thank you ❤️

[@bricebarker3487]

Oh my this is funny

[@envycollar]

guten tag!

[@brendakrieger7000]

I just use V05 from the Dollar Tree or Walmart. Suave is also good🧴🧼