The Bad Sounds - Dana 60 Rebuild, Dead Wipers, Door Seals, And More For This 1977 Dodge Crew Cab

[@russmiller7687]

Loc-tite 635 or 640 along with staking the case works excellent. Always fun watching your adventures!

[@blahblah4125]

I think I figured out why you are so knowlegeable as a mechanic compared to how old you are. The weather where you live is so horrible, you are force to find something to do in the garage. And, that happens so much because of the weather, you are now an absolute expert. Your channel is impressive, entertaining, educational, and enjoyable!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

The only flaw in that calculation is the amount of this I have had to do *in* the rain… 😅 thanks!

[@TeriG-y7k]

As a farmer I take a little offence with your comment, but we do that all the time and use a little green loctite. Great Channel.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

There you go. Thanks!

[@ProSimex84]

I was wondering about the lack of locktite in that bodge.​@@DeadDodgeGarage

[@michaelmccluskey1155]

Boo fkn Hoo. Go watch someone else if it bothers you so much.

[@BawbEedie]

If you want to be Out Standing in your field... Become a farmer...

[@jamesblair9614]

I love Dana 60’s, and the cars they come in!

[@jeffhutchins7048]

Staking that bearing race would be like EVERYTHING I DO. If you want that race to stay, it won't. If you wanted it to spin it wouldn't. If I paint something the paint doesn't stick. If I over-spray something it will NEVER come off. If I Loctite it it will never hold unless I WANT it apart....then it's permanent. It just goes on and on and on and......

[@0004612]

The story of my life as well. Murphy’s Law maybe?

[@Hellcat71782]

You and me would be best friends

[@jeffhutchins7048]

Misery loves company so, yes, probably.

[@Hellcat71782]

@ I dropped my baby ring from when I was a child in my bedroom. It was gold with my initials on it. It was Portuguese gold. It’s been 20 years same bedroom I never ever found it even to this day. I’m that guy. Still makes me mad whenever I think about it.

[@markcollins457]

I REMEMBER WHEN, we went to the Dodge dealer to purchase the Burnt Orange pickup on the showroom floor. It was a 1972 purchased in the fall of 71 and the 318 automatic(requirement for mom) stayed with us until 2000 when a tree fell on it.😊

[@pcbullets8726]

This truck deserves its own zip code! Great job guys!

[@TheRustFarm]

That’s the first I’ve heard of a housing spreader haha and I’ve pulled carriers out of lots of Dana 60’s, 70’s and 80’s and never had a problem but maybe I will get myself one. Great video as usual I always learn something new from your videos thanks again

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I’ve only ever done one Dana 70 without it. Prying the carrier out was a humongous pain, as was reinstalling it. It can be done, but it’s so much easier with the right tool.

[@TheRustFarm]

@ yeah good to know I’m going to get one should make it much less of a fight next go around

[@Bananatruck_345]

Jamie, the door seal struggle is real... I feel your pain

[@ChristopherJohnston-t5z]

Excellent episode. I’m not really a truck guy, but I really enjoyed this episode.

[@SypherF]

this yacht is awesome! I can see why it dragged by for you but it is a dino and because of people like you it will outlive you

[@PlymouthOnPlywood]

Always a wealth of information. I’ll definitely be referring to this one in future.

[@joshjesch6000]

Awesome video from tip to tail. I Love that big monster. I Can't wait for more tin grill stuff.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Coming up, of course!

[@boilerroomed3682]

Once again, I'm amazed by your tolerance for annoyances! One after another in this case...

[@stage0garage]

Hah! As soon as you said door seals I said to myself “That doors not gonna close right 😁”. I gave up and grab them from my local yard whenever I see a good set.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Yeeeeepp… you would know. Haha.

[@22vx]

Really LIKE that truck 👍 What a cool old monster 😎

[@jonboy9912]

Nice episode very useful stuff that I mostly forgot but can look up now! Thanks!!

[@deansutherland992]

Rain, cold, rat funk, lube stank, bloodshed. Key DDG elements. Shot in black & white it would be like a "DDG noir" film. Moreso if you & Alan smoked and stared wistfully into the camera. Tks for another gritty film.

[@ricksaint2000]

Thank you Allan, nice job...oh & you too Jamie.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Allan’s pulling a lot of weight around here lately…

[@Jaybird66sweptline]

Been doing a lot of air brake installations on the rigs at work. The Meritor axles are very similar to the Dana 60 in respect to the disassembly, at least on the outer hubs, which is as far as we had to go. The cone spacers were hitting me as I banged em out with the hammer. Good times. And I feel your pain with the door and window seals. Had to do that on the PW and the passenger window yanks it out every time. It now hangs there like a limp noodle. Oh well. Another great vid.

[@theboardcrafter1336]

I really enjoy your videos, and I have almost washed all your videos. I'm going back through your podcast videos now, but great job. I'm glad you do what you do.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Thank you! Happy to do it.

[@TribeWilloughby]

Another Banger... Proud and free to choose MOPAR ...Checking in on the P.N.W.

[@TribeWilloughby]

Patinaed means having or covered with a patina. A patina is a natural or artificial film that forms on a surface, such as a metal, and can be valued for its color. The word patina comes from the Italian word patina, which means "shallow layer of deposit on a surface". Patina can also refer to the appearance of something that has become beautiful through age or use. For example, you might describe an antique table as having a beautiful patina. The chemical process by which a patina forms is called patination. A work of art that has been coated with a patina is said to be patinated. Here are some examples of patinaed in a sentence: "It was patinaed with drawings of genitalia that had been scratched into the paint". "The license plated patinaed with mud". "She wore rubber boots patinaed with mud".

[@tonyb3864]

Another fine how to video. Great job !

[@sickcoy13]

Just noticed my bed has the same two tone paint as this truck and the adventurer side molding package. Neat!

[@tedcorey3054]

Cool truck . You do good work and you stick with it .

[@alcyr5655]

This video made me rethink my life choices. '80 W150 Powerwagon Clubcab, longbox. 360, 4bbl with the 4 spd. Bare bones, only options are dual fuel tanks and cargo lamp. Already swapped in a Dana 60, 4.10 rear axle, brother kinda pissed me off by selling the Dana 60 king pin front axle and NP 205 transfercase. It's dark brown with tan mid body. Got all the parts to convert it to bird bath hood, early style hood latch and cowl cover, and wiper assembly. It's been a love hate relationship with this truck since I first got it in "02. It needs door and window seals, rear upper wheel arches, 360 needs a rebuild. Some how I got attached to this turd.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Bummer on losing the good 4x4 parts. Keep the faith… make it live! That W100 club long I had rode and drove every bit as nice as this crew cab does. It was a great truck.

[@johnmullins2798]

Dash light fix was a huge improvement.

[@Legacy_Lou]

Great video, as usual 😎

[@antonleimbach648]

I always enjoy the test drive down river road.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Me too! Haha.

[@LaLaLand.Germany]

What a cool truck. The dual exhaust sounds mean- But it can do truck stuff AND transport five people. …Please sometimes mind the next guy: it might be you. Looking forward to more of the Dodge Landyacht.

[@J.R.in_WV]

Rockwell axles on big trucks used those cones for decades, our 1995 model with 46-160’s is the first one without them I’ve ever worked on, they just use a regular nut and washer on the studs, but our old trucks with SQHD’s, SSHD’s and SUHD’s from the 60’s to the 80’s have all used the cones on a studs. The idea behind using studs instead of bolts at the axle flange to hub interface was to avoid messing up / pulling out the threads in the holes in the cast hubs after repeated removals of the axle shafts. On class 6-8 trucks especially where the rear brakes do most of the work, pretty much the exact opposite of a pickup, and back when they still used inboard brake drums this was a real issue because any time the brakes needed new shoes and / or drums installed, the axles had to come out. On a class 8 vocational truck that’s several times each year. These days with outboard drums (or discs) being the norm, it’s not near as much of an issue.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Makes good sense!

[@Silvangreen]

Watching you go through all that was a little stressful for me. 😂

[@0004612]

I agree. At least it wasn’t 10 degrees though.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Same…

[@cbobmonster]

Kick ass video who doesn’t love tin grill trucks I own one myself

[@brivas3343]

Thanks for another tin grill episode. Love those tin grills!

[@BarnyardNewton]

I like how when you hit the brakes, that new thingy you installed under the dash flashes a bright “green” light. So counterintuitive.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I like that too. Haha.

[@VolcanoPudding]

Wiper arms are kinda like a really simple robot. Fascinating observation, I know.😵‍💫

[@joshandnissa]

Allen seems like pretty damn good help.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Absolutely. He’s a superhero

[@idaholineman5788]

Should nickname that truck Rosie…because there’s a whole lot of her!!

[@0004612]

42-39-56, you could say she’s gotta lot!!

[@Anthony-nw5zv]

Good job 👍😊

[@user-he5me9td1t]

I love that truck! Sweet!

[@peterparsons7141]

It’s a beast. Hard to find any that are still solid. Definitely a good around town truck, I wouldn’t want to drive it to Mexico.

[@dirtyoldfarmhand3]

Awesome. Thanks for the video.

[@DPWheeler67]

Solid video, it's so nice hearing you abuse Mitchell in your videos LOL

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Or Allan? I abused Allan slightly. Haha

[@daltonsparks1293]

I always enjoy the pickup stuff, i drove a 73 d100 with not much floor in it for 2 years as a daily

[@johnwesner3935]

I've had three dodge trucks over the years. 1976 w/225, auto. 1982 w/ 360 4X4 auto. 1998 1/2 3500 Cummins 24 valve. I still have the 98. It's never seen a winter and may be going up for sale. Only ever pulled the camper. I guess I've had four Dodge trucks if you count the 68 van. That van has a story all it's own 😊

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I’ve had… well, a lot more than three. Haha.

[@StevenAndrews-r2v]

Yes! Garage fresh video...

[@timmcooper294]

Yea the green sleeve retainer (also sold as bearing mount) is the move on that one. Also noticed the carrier bearings had eaten into the sides of the bearing saddles..... It's a Dana 60 thing. I made a tool to reface those many years ago, 'cause it ends up with the surfaces non-parallell and the new bearings run cocked, dramatically shortening their life. If you work on these rears a lot, you can buy a refacing tool. I have seen a few with the loose pinion bearing race, and I think it's actually from the fact that some of these were BARELY a press fit right from the factory, and the bearing started moving and presto, a slide in fit. I've always had great results with the green stuff, it's a good fix.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

So I’ve heard on the green stuff. Good to know for next time. I’ve only done one 70 before this 60, and the race fit as expected. That was also a 20+ year newer housing.

[@clembob8004]

I had a similar problem with a loose race in a boat prop drive, and I used JB Weld to seal the new race in place. That seemed to work quite well, but that race is there to stay, forever if not longer.

[@MoparJimmy]

That's a really nice truck

[@LSSindustries]

This truck clearly doesn't want to leave

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

What did I ever do to deserve this

[@DieseltheWhiteTailedBuck]

finally something to watch today

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Nailed it

[@harrywalker968]

@@DeadDodgeGarage jb weld.. fixes everything..race to the shop & get some.. are 1/2 th shim brass available..

[@harrywalker968]

@@DeadDodgeGarage shoulda re geared it to 373..

[@RichL8223]

Man that truck is longer than a limo looks sweet.

[@ryanomalley430]

That truck is awesome! I’d love to see one in northeast PA, but the only tin grilles around here are either regular cabs or club cabs. Those wiper motors NEVER want to park, I’m guessing they get either dirty or damaged contacts inside the gearbox. Back in the 80’s, On both of our E bodies, my grandpa wired up push buttons under the steering column to park the wipers in case they wouldn’t park by themselves.

[@petergplus6667]

That's a beautiful car model.

[@timrayburn2461]

Great video

[@slavko8253]

Love ur vids man can’t wait till u reach 100k subs

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Thanks!!

[@AlexisWelter]

I just got done rebuilding the Dana 60 front in my 2nd gen, my original plan was to re use original shims with new bearings. That didn't work, had to completely re-shim the carrier shims. Mine had way to much carrier bearing preload with the old shims, pinion depth was alright with original shims. The second gen front 60s use a crush sleeve, that is fun to get started moving, takes about 320 ft lb to do it. I made my own case spreader for that job, now I have it for future dana rebuilds.

[@curtissanborn5926]

I LOVE THIS TRUCK.

[@trimmerman1]

@13:15 They got lots of really sexy adhesives these days. Some of them stronger than steel. They can fill cracks, They can expand so water can't get in. All kinds of cool applications. If you are doing a frame off restoration. That may not be good enough. However, when you are fixing something anyway. What difference does it make? It's a fix. Did it work? Did it stay fixed? Was it a solution to the problem? I'd glue that race in.

[@trimmerman1]

@21:00 They were probably all out.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

You and many other commenters. I’ll consider that next time.

[@stevenandrews1012]

We had a 77 440 Adventurer single cab...I remember fixing the wiper bushing at 1am...

[@ImpalamansGarage]

love that handle for the punch

[@hubcap4KHDRgameplay]

Can I suggest : I've seen several of these channels sharing the idea of using a Plastic hard mold " Kiddie Pool" ,to place on the floor under the vehicle when opening the coolant system or differentials. Easily catches all the nastiness being flung around to keep the floor clean. Seems to be a game changer in frustration reduction. PS : strangely I like watching you chase down all the little issues on this truck....Don't stop 'til you have a Patinaed , solid , daily !

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I use oil and coolant drains. Have tons of ‘em.

[@TribeWilloughby]

I will look iT up

[@TribeWilloughby]

@@hubcap4KHDRgameplay I am Sure that's a Compliment = Sic Man In 💚 The House

[@MikeekiM-vh5se]

I thought I was subscribed!! I am now, don't know what happened. Maybe not? Maybe so? but I know I am now! Merry Christmas!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Subscriptions randomly disappear sometimes, and I have no idea how or why. Merry Christmas!

[@selenelacaze9883]

24:26 yeah Steele rubber products and Metro Sofseal are good and accurate seal stuffs.

[@ThisValiantAdventure]

Oh, is that why it’s called a “crew cab”? :) Great stuff as always, sir. Nothing like getting nothing fixed and then realizing there are six more things that immediately pop up. Mechanical wack-a-mole.

[@shazbotnanu7037]

Green Loctite 638 is made to retain bushings, bearing races etc. hat and staking it would hold that race really well.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

So I’ve heard. Wasn’t familiar with that at all. Next time

[@mrlawn007]

Not 638 Loctite it is 680 Loctite

[@louislepage5111]

Neat truck 😊

[@burtbacarach5034]

Yeah the door and window seals on square body Chevy's are a pain in the butt too-sometimes it just takes time for em to wear in.Gets really tiring having to slam the door all the time.

[@DPaint-v5j]

Cool trick. Check out Sqaure Max Customs extended jeep they built. They are long vehicles. I owned a D200 1968 extended cab 4x4 in uk around 36 years ago. It was ex militarty. It was a beast. Good luck. Have a good Christmas. 👍👍✌️🇬🇧☃️

[@lpmorify]

that truck is very cool

[@DarrylDutton-y3b]

A friend used to work at a ford dealership as a mechanic. He did a brake job on a F250. Full floating rear axle. When he was putting everything back together his practice was to just dip the bearings in gear oil. The owner picks the truck up, goes home, puts his 10' camper on, hooks up his boat and then hit the highway. I don't remember the exact mileage, but he didn't get super far before one of the rear wheels locked up! It ruined the housing. The wheel bearings on a full floating axle get diff lube from the vehicle making turns. After that I ALWAYS take the 5 minutes and just pack the bearings.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Grease and gear oil don’t mix. They turn into an awful mess. You really don’t want to use them together. There should have been enough oil in that housing to do the job. One has to wonder what the adjustment procedure looked like…

[@jeffhutchins7048]

You know you're working on your truck in the PNW when part of the tooling necessary is a plastic table cloth.....IN YOUR SHOP!!! Been there....😢

[@michaelnault5905]

I learned it rains there. A lot :⁠-⁠) And noises hide other noises!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Omg, so much…

[@steveanderson6353]

Ironically, I'm tackling my wiper arm bushings in my '78 D200 crewcab today. The Dana in it has a pinion seal leak thats on the "to do" list, but for years it just gets topped off and ran. Today just feels like a "top it off" day (again).

[@mrlawn007]

There is a Loctite 680 part no #1835201 Its anaerobic and made just for this occasion . I used it on my 1920 ford tractor 4X4 front final drive bearings cup that did just the same as yours .

[@Redgrave-v2p]

the peening trick has been around probably longer than bearings. Seen/done it to everything from mowers to race cars. However that is the first time ive seen someone peen the housing as opposed the outer race. Its much easier because you can basically knurl the outer race and its a little safer because that is the replaceable part. Also as others have said, this is the one instance where liberal usage of retaining compound is acceptable. Got er back on the road though

[@boredom.victim]

rain-x waterless car wash stuff gets them window seals a little slick - it helps

[@amsburym]

Well you were right. I think my neighbors hate me now after warming this thing up before going to work.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Haaahaha… well, that was fast

[@RustyRobinson-g5n]

thanks👍🇺🇲

[@BrandonLeeBrown]

The Dana 60 shims normally go behind the bearing races, while in a 12 bolt Chevy the shims normally go behind the bearings. I have used Dana shims behind bearing races in 12 bolt Chevy rears though. I don't think the Chevy bearing shims will go behind the pinion bearing race, due to the tabs on them, but the Dana shims fit. My neighbor has a Superbird that had 3.54 gears and he asked me to install 4.10 gears in its Dana 60.

[@davechambers5387]

permatex bearing and seal mounting compound might work to hold those races .

[@jeremymtc]

There's a little song I like to sing while installing recalcitrant bearing shells: Who's gonna tell you when it's too late? Who's gonna tell you things aren't so great? You can't go on, thinking nothing's wrong, but now Who's gonna drive you home tonight?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

😅

[@ambirbtruckdriver]

Hell, yeah, another episode of ADHD garage

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Let’s gooooo

[@SmudgyContent]

11:13 what ur going through here is what happened to me. Local shot ened up doing the job afterwards. Took 3 different types of bearings for my Dana60. It was factory LSD but the shop said clutches are toast, I didn’t wanna toss another $500 their way, so just running it. Been 4yrs and I’m now getting a strange clunk now and then back there… but yah you’ll wanna try several more style bearings and seals to fit… 😐☠️

[@rexrobertson7353]

Add this to the list of never seen before. When my 8-3/4 finally broke behind the big block......guess what failed. The clutch type sure grip carrier broke in half.....radically. Went to a 9 inch....that did not last long....bearing caps blew off it right quick. Went back to an 8-3/4 for a while and build a 60 for it.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Wow!

[@knote4958]

5:49 I am well aware that it smells, and to make things worse, it's so thick & sticky it takes so much more brake cleaner to get it off stuff

[@OldsmobileSBRocket]

Interesting the Dana 60 is such a tight fit. The GM rears use shims to get the tight fit. I spent many minutes getting the shims just right on my unique Oldsmobile 8.5" rear fitting the $750 Yukon posi. Even the races were bastards to get in and out. I always measure pinion depth then compare and whatever gears I am swapping and shim accordingly. Somehow I used perfect impact torque with the crush sleeve. I am surprised it isn't a posi in that truck. Interesting to see how the different differentials are assembled.

[@Jeff-zc3wl]

Green Loctite works to retain bearings with oversized bores.

[@jasonnelson6624]

I have an oem carter afb 625 comp carb that was new in the box from the 70's. It too has the two middle bolts which are standard slot not torxs.

[@chuckschultz7028]

Loctite bearing mount is your friend. Intended for just this problem [loose race].

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

So I’ve now heard!

[@scotthanson7888]

I have had some success with a spring loaded center punch

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I need one of those!

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

24:54 not just tin grills. First gen Dakotas too.

[@JeffMiletich]

4:10 - that spring- looks like it's from a ball point pen. Maybe a spring from a pen would work in a pinch? Just wondering... Do I spy the same cruise control mechanical parts under the hood that were in my 79 Cordova?

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

New tuning secret - pen springs. It could work. Haha. Yes I’m sure the cruise is the same.

[@sickcoy13]

Safe to say it’s a matter of a pinion.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Yeap… yeap…

[@roycervantes1341]

Good evening Jamie,,,,, DDG,,,,,,,Yeee Yeee 😊😊😊😊😊

[@The_Painter31]

@Jamie, what's weird is on GM the OEM door seals glue on and the Amazon ones have the pinch style. The Dana's must be different per manufacturers because the Ford Dana 60's thru Dana 80's just use bolts on the axle flanges and so do the GMC's. On that truck, if he's going to tow no money for a locker? Yukon has a few cheaper versions.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Not too worried about a locker. Won’t be towing much, just a small enclosed trailer.

[@BlindBatG34]

Last I checked, Chrysler still sells door seals for first gen Rams. They are more expsive than the entire aftermarket kit.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

The Steele Rubber gaskets are very nice. And also very expensive.

[@joshandnissa]

Try an Automatic center punch next time you dont have room to swing a hammer.. Also the loctite for sleeves is great for sticking races in worn out holes.

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

I need one of those for sure.

[@BawbEedie]

When I first joined the Army, we were "coding out" these "mid-seventies" Dodge trucks... They were called M880's... They were being replaced by Chevys that were referred to as CUCV's... The Dodges were absolute dogs compared to the Chevys... The Dodges had 318's in them... They were regular cabs with non-power steering also... The Air force had the SWEET crew cabs with the short bed... They also had power steering with 360's in them... I always wanted to get one at an auction, but never did... This would have been and AWESOME truck to take to the field back when I was in the Army... We could have just slept in back instead of using shelter halves and ponchos... And that 440 probably would have given that Chevy Diesel a run for its money, I recon... Cool truck!

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Yep. I’ve seen a few M880s on the market but I’ve never touched one yet. And I’ve seen a good few of those Air Force crew cabs. They must’ve bought a million of them.

[@BawbEedie]

@@DeadDodgeGarage The M880's would have been a much better truck if they would have put a 360 in them and power steering... But the military contract for them was more concerned with "fuel economy" and a price point... They had the same Dana 60 axles and the 727 Torqueflite Transmissions... Also the problem with the M880's is that if you got a "tactical one" instead of ones like the Air Force had, the wiring was a disaster to work on... They used the same wanky light switch that was used in everything from the M151 Jeeps to the modern day HumVee's... If you ever do "touch one"... Buy a "civilianized" replacement harness to save yourself a lot of grief...

[@Oldjohn52]

I think "Crewcab Longbed" would be a good name for a metal/bluegrass band

[@DeadDodgeGarage]

Strongly agree. Haha