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We Are Not Alive

We Are Not Alive

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@hinasakukimi
@hinasakukimi 8 күн бұрын
okay that tweet about killing pavi to get an avatar "with a better body" is obviously unhinged and disgusting... but it's also kind of a fascinating premise?? like... imagine seeing this sweet little girl on the run from people who only care about her utility. it'd be bleak as hell but what a way to get (normal) viewers to root for her
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 8 күн бұрын
Not to sound crazy, but I had a similar thought actually. Forget the equalists, what if we had a villain who was an ableist? XD Attempting to slay the chosen one in order to incarnate them into a more idealized form is a metal af motivation. It’s also lowkey the plot of Hereditary.
@kidkangaroo5213
@kidkangaroo5213 8 күн бұрын
This might be one of the most unique premises I can think of. Would be actual kino, if they implemented it.
@RDrawzDragonz
@RDrawzDragonz 8 күн бұрын
what the fuck is that tweet??? actually so disgusting and ableist and disabilist wtfffffffffffffffff..... im disabled and this person is gross, all lives are worth living??? THIS PERSON LOOKED AT THE DESIGN OF A 5-6YO DISABLED GIRL AND THAT WAS THEIR FIRST THOUGHT???????? REALLY????????? im mad asf and i cant illustrate my words properly rn but wtf, attitudes like that have contributed to murders and genocides of disabled people in the past. in the holoocaust disabled people due to doctors like hans aspergers were put to death because doctors with the same attitudes as this twitter bozo deemed them "unworthy of life."
@QT3.14-w2p
@QT3.14-w2p 8 күн бұрын
Hol' up, I think you're onto something
@GrishaDerp
@GrishaDerp 8 күн бұрын
​@@WeRNotAlivethis would honestly be a better fascist villain than Kuveira in Korra. A kind of perfect analog to the kind of people who believe that Jesus had to share their skin color.
@jimbob-g3z
@jimbob-g3z 8 күн бұрын
Seemed a bunch of the people complaining about it were winging about the next Avatar not being a guy because of the "gender cycle" implying that the Avatar swaps gender with each reincarnation. But like the Avatar before Aang was Roku... was male... Big babies.
@Neonlight3934
@Neonlight3934 8 күн бұрын
Because as we all know genetics alternate each generation, that's how 50% chance works am I right? /s On an unrelated note It's sad I feel the need to add /s
@butlered4350
@butlered4350 8 күн бұрын
The most popular theory is that the gender cycle is female-male-female-male-male-repeat. But this still doesn't mean anything because 1. I am pretty sure this was never confirmed in the show or by the creators 2. one of the two new avatars is male and them being twins might mess up the cycle a little bit.
@simplifiedspike9702
@simplifiedspike9702 8 күн бұрын
Roku was trans? That's crazy
@quakeroats957
@quakeroats957 8 күн бұрын
Yeah I used to think gender/sex alternated based on the elements like Yangchen/Aang, Kurruk/Korra, So the next earth avatar would be male because Kyoshi was female, but the fire avatar before Roku also being male (szeto) seems to disprove this.
@chuckled125
@chuckled125 8 күн бұрын
omg i feel like such an idiot for not realizing that while watching the video
@JachymorDota
@JachymorDota 8 күн бұрын
Are you telling me people see a picture of a character with no context and go MAD over it? Buncha snowflakes, I tell ya.
@monerb7185
@monerb7185 8 күн бұрын
is this news though i feel we all knew that there were definitely some ableist (and other words that end with ist) people in the fandom
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s 7 күн бұрын
@@monerb7185 i think they are brainwashed by the anti woke DEI nonsense
@vullanforcechoke
@vullanforcechoke 8 күн бұрын
I have many words about Pavi starting with this She is an adorable bean
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 8 күн бұрын
She's got the heart of a champion!! *sobbing*
@JEvans-wy9ln
@JEvans-wy9ln 8 күн бұрын
I don't ever want to see her get hurt in the show 😢
@Purpletech-z6x
@Purpletech-z6x 6 күн бұрын
I feel so bad for her that she can’t connect to the other past avatars.
@vullanforcechoke
@vullanforcechoke 6 күн бұрын
@Purpletech-z6x I didn't even think about that. Though she does have Korra, for better or worse
@rezz.g6564
@rezz.g6564 5 күн бұрын
I want to see her lava bend sand into molten glass and enclose her enemies in stain glass bubbles. You know, cute but terrifying.
@CapnJigglypuff
@CapnJigglypuff 8 күн бұрын
I LOVE PASSING JUDGEMENT ON THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST YET BASED ONLY ON LEAKED CONCEPT ART AND PLOT SYNOPSES
@toasttitan3253
@toasttitan3253 8 күн бұрын
Especially when those things aren’t even confirmed to be true
@NeoEvanA.R.T
@NeoEvanA.R.T 7 күн бұрын
They just Reactionary, endlessly demanding for the world to stop changing.
@frederickdawson2253
@frederickdawson2253 6 күн бұрын
Youre current RWBY fan, how dare say something like that?
@nananamamana3591
@nananamamana3591 6 күн бұрын
I mean. You'd be remarkably surprised how often these leaks have been true in the past 6 years at least -- even within this own franchise. Passing judgement on leaks is more credible now than it's ever been. Sokka losing his sexist edge (depriving him of learning to NOT be sexist like a functional human being) The entire plot of The Rise of Skywalker The entire plot of The Last of Us 2 The bulk of the plot of Cyberpunk 2077 The plot of Wish Blizzard's plans for Diablo 4's monetization, and the cutting of story mode from Overwatch 2 Sony's plans for Helldivers 2 Dragon Age: The Veilguard's sales figures These are *all* things that leaked, and they all share that they were entirely unchanged in the final product and/or they were entirely true. Likewise, we have Sonic the Hedgehog's design from the first sonic film which was ridiculed so unanimously and harshly that the studio changed the design. So, not only do we have multiple examples of leaks being totally right, but we also have a prolific example of how a public enough outcry can have an affect on a company's decision to move forward with certain aspects of a project. Like, I *get* the joke being made here? I even agree with it? But the fact remains leaks are more accurate than they ever have been, and generating enough outcry has had demonstrable effect on at least one major release.
@jesterdays
@jesterdays 6 күн бұрын
​@@nananamamana3591The Sonic movie is an outlier, this rarely, if ever, happens with cartoons. Off the top of my head, Netflix's She-Ra and the Velma show got a ton of backlash before realease and they still went through with it. Twitter outcry rarely matters here.
@IsraelLlerena
@IsraelLlerena 6 күн бұрын
Avatar series disabled characters; Toph (blind) Teo (in a wheelchair) Combustion man (no hands or feet) Zuko (limited sight eye and limited hearing) Ming Hua (no arms) Under their world view, these characters shouldn’t be in their show. I repeat *under their world view, characters like Tooh shouldn’t have left the drawing board because she was ‘DEI’*. Disabilities add interesting ways of telling creative stories and adding creative, new types of bending styles. It ADDS to the world and makes it interesting.
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 5 күн бұрын
Toph: Blind girl that uses an ancient Earthbending technique to get around her impaired sight for the most part, still having things she can't do because of it, and all of this shaping her as a character and her relations with others. Also she's not so up her own ass that she can't make jokes about herself. She's designed in a way to be a cool, interesting character rather than some pandering slop. Teo: Wheelchair-bound kid who, despite not being an Air Nomad, still embodies the spirit of one. Enough to earn Aang's respect and eventually get him to open a sealed door in the temple. It's also a showing of the love between him and his dad as well as a showing of the dad's inventor skills, able to build a custom Air Glider on Teo's wheelchair so he can have some kind of greater mobility despite his impairment. They also had a great episode in general what with the whole Fire Nation plot point. Combustion Man: Cool design off the bat that becomes more interesting as you see him in action. Seeing his Combustion power, seeing how recklessly he uses it, seeing his weakness to even slight head injuries that when paired with his recklessness leads to him blowing himself up, and being able to piece together that he blew off his arm somehow with his own power, resulting in the cool metal prosthetic arm. Zuko: Not disabled as I don't recall him being shown to have impaired sight/hearing because of the scar. That's more so there as a mark of shame that defines his entire character, ultimately having to overcome that shame to become a better person. He's one of if not the best written characters in the series. Ming Hua: Similar boat to Combustion Man. Cool design off the bat that only becomes better when she's shown in action, waterbending of slight movements and using that to equip herself with water arms in place of her missing ones, which she can use to deadly effect. And like Toph, this gives her a weakness, this time to lightning since the electrocution hurts more since the water is connected to her internals. "Disabilities add interesting ways of telling creative stories and adding creative, new types of bending styles. It ADDS to the world and makes it interesting." That's exactly what all of these characters do, be it Toph and Ming Gua using bending to mostly overcome their disabilities, Teo using technology to do the same, or Combustion Man *becoming disabled* due to his destructive power and reckless use of it. And at the end of the day, the characters by themselves look cool. Now tell me: What about a little girl with a shotty looking prosthetic leg "adds interesting ways of telling creative stories" and "ADDS to the world and makes it interesting"? Or looks cool? And before you use the "we haven't seen anything about her yet", we live in an era where pandering is plentiful and easy to spot from a mile away, with snap judgements based on leaks and designs often being right more often than not. First impressions matter more than they ever have, and if you can't get across your intentions for a character of their design and story drafts, and in a way that isn't easy to misinterpret as "woke", you've failed as an artist.
@IsraelLlerena
@IsraelLlerena 5 күн бұрын
@ so let me first explain my reasoning for saying Zuko is disabled. Maybe impaired would’ve been a better word. But during the show, you can see him sleeping on either his burned ear side or healthy ear side. He sleeps with his healthy ear facing up when he needs to listen out for any possible danger. He sleeps with his damaged ear facing up when he’s with iroh, when he doesn’t necessarily need to be aware of upcoming danger sneaking up on him. It’s subtle storytelling and admittedly not straight up said, but that’s why I say that. Because his damaged ear may have given him hearing issues and sleeping with his healthy ear up gives him more of a chance to hear better. Also, half Zukos eye is closing. Try to do something for me. Take your fingers and close one of your eyes halfways. This messes up your vision totally. I can see why they didn’t do this with the live action, because this messes up perception, and doing acrobatics with half an eye squinted is dangerous.
@rebeccadoyle600
@rebeccadoyle600 5 күн бұрын
@@espurrseyes42Jesus christ. Disabilities do not need to “add” to the world, characters can just… be disabled. Because that’s how real life works. There are plenty of fictional characters that are disabled and are still awesome and fell great stories about disability, even if their diability doesn’t add anything to the lore. You sound like an ableist version of Matpat.
@IsraelLlerena
@IsraelLlerena 5 күн бұрын
@ to answer your question, I cannot yet tell you how it adds to the story because we don’t know how it happened yet. But it can be an incredibly interesting way to do bending and add to possibilities within the world, like the other ATLA characters have had. Just like Ming Hua, if the leg later turns to be Metal, there are a lot of possibilities with metal bending she can do. It’s possible she might fight like luffy who can extend his limbs, and she can extend her leg to do an extended kick idk. Or she could use her legs to reach herself high if she’s not on land. I’m not a creative writer for the show or anything. I’m just saying it adds possibilities. If they do nothing interesting with her leg that adds to the story or interesting bending. I’d be surprised because the series has 100% of the time done it with the intention that I’ve already said. I disagree with your last point. To me characters are way too complex to be judged from a few generic poses of characters that aren’t even meant to be seen by audiences. It’s not promotional images. If you saw a picture of a little blind girl in a generic pose with both her hands down, looking forward, and the leaked description was “this blind 12 year old girl beats up 7 guys at once easily without anyone ever touching her” context excluded, you’d be complaining. The series have used all these disabled characters to do incredible things and give stories. You’ve explained it thoroughly in your reply. For you to think they’d do NOTHING for the MAIN CHARACTER. An AVATAR-- that’s nonsense.
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 5 күн бұрын
@@IsraelLlerena Yeah. It's so subtle that's it can easily be written off as him not actually being impaired/disabled by his injury that realistically should impair him. If that's truly what the writers were going for, they should've made that more apparent that the scar was meant to be literally rather than a physical representation of something mental/spiritual. A symbol.
@friendbeezo3485
@friendbeezo3485 8 күн бұрын
The people who hate on Avatar Pavi are probably the same people that think Aang should've obliterated Ozai just because he could - completely missing the point of the show.
@saucevc8353
@saucevc8353 8 күн бұрын
Only problem I have with Aang and Ozai is that Aang absolutely HAS killed people before, so it’s kinda inconsistent.
@rapha690
@rapha690 6 күн бұрын
​@@saucevc8353The fire nation soldiers in that snowy-montain area in the Northern Air Temple DID NOT went back home that day.
@diseasedwombat5611
@diseasedwombat5611 5 күн бұрын
@@saucevc8353 !!!TF ONE SPOILERS!!! That’s like saying Orion Pax is in the wrong for not wanting to kill Sentinel even if he’s previously killed before. Ignoring Sentinel’s helplessness in the situation at the hand of D-16, Orion Pax wanted to keep Sentinel alive so he could send a message. Aang wanted to send that same message in keeping Ozai alive despite the tremendous threat he posed. An era of peace does NOT start with an execution, let alone a public execution. An era of peace and mercy starts with mercy.
@saucevc8353
@saucevc8353 4 күн бұрын
@ Ok but killing a bunch of random conscripts just to spare the person actually responsible is just hypocritical. Do all the soldiers killed not invalidate that message of mercy? Imagine an alternate WW2 with Soviets killing, looting, and pillaging their way across Nazi Germany but then letting Hitler live because of “mercy”. Yeah I’m sure the families of all those dead soldiers will appreciate your mercy towards their dictator.
@zeniththecreator7671
@zeniththecreator7671 3 күн бұрын
​@@diseasedwombat5611 the theory I heard wasn't that he was trying to save Sentinel but he was trying to save D-16 and that Sentinel would have been killed later
@RinitaChan
@RinitaChan 8 күн бұрын
Wait until those blue check idiots remember that in canon there was an avatar with no arms.
@Emery_Pallas
@Emery_Pallas 8 күн бұрын
Was there? I remember there being a character with no arms but not an avatar. Please tell me more
@Speederzzz
@Speederzzz 8 күн бұрын
​@@Emery_Pallas there are a few statues and flashbacks to an avatar with no arms and instead having water tentacles
@pike7090
@pike7090 8 күн бұрын
@@Emery_Pallaswhen Korra gets a view of all the past avatars before they’re destroyed, in the lineup you can see an armless avatar- I don’t remember much else, but they’re there
@Emery_Pallas
@Emery_Pallas 8 күн бұрын
@@pike7090 Oh neat, I never noticed that.
@kyrazz128
@kyrazz128 8 күн бұрын
Or even remember that teo exists really
@EmeraldGlow981
@EmeraldGlow981 8 күн бұрын
I kinda like her. She reminds me of a Pokemon character. I wouldn't mind a few seasons with her.
@Pokefan_64
@Pokefan_64 8 күн бұрын
Literally my first thought was that the art style reminded me of Pokemon
@drfiveminusminus
@drfiveminusminus 8 күн бұрын
I was unironically like "oh hi Iris from Pokemon Black and White, nice to see you're still finding work after team plasma froze Opelucid City"
@ActuallySatan
@ActuallySatan 8 күн бұрын
@@drfiveminusminus She's the Champion of Unova after all. She's probably doing pretty well for herself.
@davidegaruti2582
@davidegaruti2582 7 күн бұрын
​@Pokefan_64yeah , they changed the art style a lot if this is real ... And yeah i agree afther a while it reminded me of pokemon wich , Idk, makes me kinda cynical if it's real, corporations trying to get advertising and furthering the political devide to make a quick cash in , If it ain't then it's pretty good fan art ngl ... But yeah i am not mad at the drawing , i am mad at the social context ...
@axolotlinabucket1287
@axolotlinabucket1287 5 күн бұрын
​@@davidegaruti2582 pokemon gameplay might have gone down in quality but what got better is the character designs. the human characters were the silverlining if not the highlight of every new release, its insane how good they got now. point being, you have done something right if it gets compaired to pokemon.
@Joey245
@Joey245 8 күн бұрын
Reminder that Korra canonically learned how to metalbend, meaning that any Avatars after her can bend metal when in the Avatar state (if they can't metalbend already) Meaning that Pavi's prosthetic can be a weapon 👀 Also she is so adorable and I want to see her be awesome
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 7 күн бұрын
If she learns how to bend lightning she can become Commander Niall.
@idiotgaming6376
@idiotgaming6376 7 күн бұрын
​@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick imagine flinging the prosthetic around like electrified nunchucks
@groudonmario
@groudonmario 7 күн бұрын
This was instantly my thought, could go crazy
@salgoragarus5854
@salgoragarus5854 6 күн бұрын
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormickI had the same idea as well STORM KICK
@OneColdRepublican
@OneColdRepublican 6 күн бұрын
I'm so looking forward to seeing what she can do with her metal prosthetic in the potential future. Im hoping it acts like a tuning fork and increases the range of 'seismic sense' 🤩🤩🤩
@Donuts8
@Donuts8 8 күн бұрын
Yeah, they’ve never had anyone using their bending skills make up for the lack of arms or lack of sight. Avatar has never explored how disability and bending could interact. Anyway I like Pavi’s design. She’s cute.
@thebaseandtriflingcreature174
@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 8 күн бұрын
It reminds me of stella from spiritfarer
@stuckerfan2563
@stuckerfan2563 8 күн бұрын
I mean her leg could be shaped to something else if she learns metalbending
@tabouretarepasser730
@tabouretarepasser730 7 күн бұрын
Are you implying blindness is not a disability. Cuz how Toth's bending interacts with her disability is very much explored in the show
@Donuts8
@Donuts8 7 күн бұрын
@tabouretarepasser730 It was sarcasm.
@aaronking2020
@aaronking2020 7 күн бұрын
​@tabouretarepasser730 literacy at an all time low
@KittyLitterYT
@KittyLitterYT 8 күн бұрын
I'm glad that I curated my internet usage well enough that this is how I found out about this bizarre outrage
@Emery_Pallas
@Emery_Pallas 8 күн бұрын
same
@Speederzzz
@Speederzzz 8 күн бұрын
Same
@perogun
@perogun 8 күн бұрын
same deleting twitter and blocking americans seems to do the trick if you want to avoing cringy outrages
@thealchemistking4063
@thealchemistking4063 8 күн бұрын
@perogun As an american... im sorry.
@YashaSkaven
@YashaSkaven 8 күн бұрын
@perogun don't act like you European folk don't get into cringey drama whenever the roma are mentioned lmfao
@EranMadeMonsters
@EranMadeMonsters 8 күн бұрын
IF the leaks are real, let them cook. I wanna see how the prosthetic leg can be utilized with metal bending or any mixture of the four main elements. Avatar Pavei (that's how auto subtitles spell it), the small child of destiny. Will the leg symbolize anything about her past or hardship? Or did she just always have a missing leg? Honestly, who's to say. The "older gentleman escorting tiny important child" trope has been done plenty of times, but let's see how this one works (instead of jumping to conclusions). I want to be open to being surprised. My motto is "have no expectations, And you'll either feel nothing or be amazed".
@RDrawzDragonz
@RDrawzDragonz 8 күн бұрын
i hope they do the "asshole adopts child and becomes a better person when raising them." trope w air boy and Pavi.
@davidegaruti2582
@davidegaruti2582 7 күн бұрын
Ok my criticism is that they kinda look like pokemon trainers , due to the artstyle ... But yeah idk i personally have little stake in this
@aethous9163
@aethous9163 7 күн бұрын
Your last line sound similar to one of the Kratos quotes "Keep your expectations low, and you'll never be disappointed" Actually a solid advice
@thesmilyguyguy9799
@thesmilyguyguy9799 7 күн бұрын
Yes
@chordsofsteel-i4j
@chordsofsteel-i4j 6 күн бұрын
@@RDrawzDragonz thats my fav
@KokoroFrog
@KokoroFrog 7 күн бұрын
Can’t believe they put a young disabled woman from the earth kingdom in MY Avatar show, the original series would never have done this 😤 Okay but actually I really hope Pavi is real because I really like her outfit and color scheme :3
@thesmilyguyguy9799
@thesmilyguyguy9799 7 күн бұрын
Yes And Yes
@antonkraghpaaskesen5050
@antonkraghpaaskesen5050 8 күн бұрын
Hey, do y'all remember Ming-hua? The armless waterbender who created water arms with her facial muscles? Or Teo who rode a flying wheelchair? Did anyone throw screaming piss-fits about them?
@scratch2086
@scratch2086 8 күн бұрын
This feels like the most bad-faith, cop out answer ever though. "Don't you remember the backest of background characters ever that had similar traits to this? Why didn't people complain then?" Yea geez, it's not like its the MAIN CHARACTER now or anything. I'm not anti-Pavi, but geez you're practically just adding fuel to the fire with takes like this.
@wordlesslfiddling
@wordlesslfiddling 8 күн бұрын
​@@scratch2086 ming Hua and Teo are definitely not background characters At least ming Hua as the fact that she's the only one of zaheers crew I can actually remember her name going for her
@scratch2086
@scratch2086 8 күн бұрын
@@wordlesslfiddling You're right. I actually forgot which character that was. Not a great point for the character's impact if their name doesn't immediately come to mind, but they were definitely an important character and well written relative to their role in the story. BUT they were not the main character. They were a goon to a seasonal antagonist. And most importantly, they were plain out flat cool. As for Teo. Eh...
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 8 күн бұрын
I like how it's the shows fault you forgot the name of a major villain. And having something against Teo seems... I dunno... odd. That's like having strong negative feelings towards Haru or Chit Sang. It's not serious enough for you to call OP bad faith.
@scratch2086
@scratch2086 8 күн бұрын
@@WeRNotAlive A "major" villain is kind of stretching it. She was important but like, we had one or two scenes with her fleshing her out in any sort of personal sense. The rest of the time she was just a menace. Which is fine. Sometimes you need a character like that in the story. But the reason I don't know her name is probably because you can count the number of times we hear it spoken aloud on your hand. (that was not meant to come as mean, I'm just making a point) If I had forgotten Ozai or Amon's name then sure you can bash me. But I'm not a huge Avatar fan. I'm mostly coming at this from the perspective of someone who is fond of the series, you could call me a fan, probably even an above average fan, but not someone who is super deeply invested. Maybe like... top 90%-95% Anyhow. I don't have anything against Teo. That's sort of the issue... Teo is hardly a 2-Dimensional character. He's just a friendly smiling face along for the ride. His father is a very interesting and fleshed out character and Teo's disability enhances his father's story and helps rationalize his decisions to us the viewer. But Teo himself... he's just sort of there? Like he serves his role in the story but if he became a member of the main cast I think we'd be bored of him by the end of season one unless he seriously grew as a character into someone more interesting.
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 8 күн бұрын
I'm so happy I don't use Twitter. It means I get to see Avatar Pavi, go "huh, neat" and carry on with my day.
@YashaSkaven
@YashaSkaven 8 күн бұрын
yeah not using twitter has saved so much of my sanity
@user-MellowMan04
@user-MellowMan04 7 күн бұрын
There’s a reason so many people migrated to BlueSky, for one you are not forced to to interact with a Eeeelooon
@YashaSkaven
@YashaSkaven 7 күн бұрын
@user-MellowMan04 bluesky allows animal 🎷 abusers and PDF files to roam free, though. Disgusting website
@Emery_Pallas
@Emery_Pallas 8 күн бұрын
Honestly the only thing Pavi's skin colour inspires in me is curiosity. Assuming she's real, her darker skin tone compared to any of the nations or cultures shown in the original (with the water tribe being the only one that comes close, though their skin tone is much lighter in comparison) which given how Avatar treats ethnicity might mean this Avatar could be from a hitherto unknown culture for the series, possibly even an unknown nation at the most extreme). That or (given Korra is the start of a new cycle, it could also be possible that this avatar is being born into none of the existing nations) For other things (assuming this is real), there is of course the implied dynamic of a young adult minding a chosen one child. While I've not seen the show this sounds a bit like what I understand FLCL to be, which iirc was one of the biggest inspirations for Avatar. Fun to see them source new ideas out of it. The two also seem to have a bit of a dynamic playing out in their designs. with the guy being more serious while Pavi is more happy. There's also a seeming sci fi bend to it (seen mostly in the outfits and the name "seven heavens", to me the use of the word heaven may imply space travel being a thing but looking stuff up it might be a post apocalyptic setting, with the traditional structure of the avatar world being radically overhauled). Also looking for more, I found another alleged leak which involves a similar pair of characters (being a disabled girl earthbender and an older male airbender, which i think might have appeared in the video). The girl is older one in the main piece of concept concept art and lacks the artificial leg, and the guy is of darker skin (with a complexion closer to the earth kingdom), has his arrow tattoos, is happier looking, and sports a slightly modified version of the white lotus Armour, which suggests a few changes between these two designs. They also seem to have been drawn by separate people, which makes me feel a bit more confident that this isn't a bit, alongside Sci-fi Avatar not being a direction most people would choose to take the series (With other fan attempts at a third Avatar typically setting their stories in the equivalent of the 60s or 80s to match with Kora's 1920s aesthetic) All I can say is if this is the next Avatar I am going to be really interested in where they take this Avatar. I feel it could be really good
@Emery_Pallas
@Emery_Pallas 8 күн бұрын
Also the obvious fact that Pavi is adorable. I love the character design decision of making the avatar so meek and unassuming, being this disabled child in rags. It reflects the idea that the Avatar, while being a chosen one, could be anyone, as well as a good subversion of Korra's fairly pampered upbringing
@OrionJA
@OrionJA 8 күн бұрын
We think of the Earth Kingdom as "Avatar China", but trade and travel between China and India happened throughout antiquity. Her skin looks extremely similar to Guru Pathik, who lived in the Earth Kingdom (IIRC) during Aang's day. His clothing, philosophy, and vocab choices were designed to evoke Tibet/Nepal/India too. I'm pretty sure Pavi is going to be from Pathik's people, who will probably turn out to live up in the mountains of the Earth Kingdom or in an Earth Kingdom part 2 on the far side of a difficult pass.
@Emery_Pallas
@Emery_Pallas 8 күн бұрын
@@OrionJA Oh yeah, I forgot he looked like that. Good observation and a really interesting opportunity I had never thought about.
@saurusestutches924
@saurusestutches924 8 күн бұрын
It doesn't seem like it will be sci-fi from the few images we saw. Personally, Avatar IN SPACE sounds like one of those neat in principle, difficult in execution premises. I just really want this to carry on the vibes the series has been known for without turning into a repeat of what's come before.
@Emery_Pallas
@Emery_Pallas 8 күн бұрын
@@saurusestutches924 From what I can tell leaks tend to describe the project as either cyberpunk or post-apocalyptic, which is quite the direction to take. Its inspired definitely, It wouldn't be my first choice but I think its a good way to make it stand out. I hope they stick the landing
@yourneighbourtodoro
@yourneighbourtodoro 6 күн бұрын
4:54 - The GENDER CYCLE of the Avatar? What are we TALKING about? Aang came after Roku. These people are so god damn miserable. EDIT: Also, "80% of what I've seen has me worried for the show." THIS LEAKED CONCEPT ART IS 100% OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN.
@NonPlayerCactus
@NonPlayerCactus 8 күн бұрын
*Oh wise Gustradamus, tell us the future*
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 8 күн бұрын
I predict that big business men will be... of importance.
@kevingluys3063
@kevingluys3063 5 күн бұрын
​@@WeRNotAlive ... Good importance? 👀
@timofeydyudin4226
@timofeydyudin4226 8 күн бұрын
We live in a scary world already. You didn't have to finish us with the creepiest WANA deep lore character cameo, Bullet Baby
@SirDanFilmsUnltd
@SirDanFilmsUnltd 8 күн бұрын
Bullet Baby: the cursed love child of Dire Wolf and Shaz Urban-Creatures. Forever to haunt the WANAverse since its conception in the land of TwoSenHorStoria.
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 8 күн бұрын
There's a war on and bullet baby is hungry.
@josiahws5
@josiahws5 7 күн бұрын
Bullet baby best character
@Cherno35
@Cherno35 8 күн бұрын
"avatar Pavi is WOKE!!!" did they.. watch the show?
@Hawkatana
@Hawkatana 8 күн бұрын
No, no they didn't.
@The7thDraconian
@The7thDraconian 8 күн бұрын
Maybe once when they were kids, but probably not recently. At least, that's if you assume they're arguing in good faith which majority aren't.
@franklangston3004
@franklangston3004 7 күн бұрын
To quote South Park "Put a chick in it, make her gay and lame" Toph was made in the early 2000 so her creation was made with good faith, now 2024 we get so much bad faith character like Pavi that we distrust anything that looks like Pavi, it is in a lot of way they fault, by being intolerant of certain fans they made even normal people more intolerant of their ideology, South Park explain it that way and truthfully that how most people feels, in any case after Korra done a bad job as Avatar I kinda have my fill of this universe, like Star Wars 😂
@The7thDraconian
@The7thDraconian 7 күн бұрын
@franklangston3004 oh, you got info on pavi's personality or how her story is planned to play out. Cool, would you be okay sharing that?
@user-MellowMan04
@user-MellowMan04 7 күн бұрын
@@franklangston3004Normal People just see a cute character design and move on with their lives, they don’t go on Xitter and write unhinged tweets, also how is Pavy a character made in bad faith? Please genuinely enlighten me 🔥
@packman2321
@packman2321 8 күн бұрын
Honestly, if real I am hyped for the Avatar stories to take a more concerted swing at disability. Toph has proved they have at least some ability to think through disability sensitively and follow through with their ideas in cool ways, and it would be nice to see if if they've maanaged to add to that in any meaningful way across the years. Really, I just wish media had more unambiguously disabled characters. Lord knows, we make up a large enough part of the population, and we come with inbuilt interesting narrative specificity (at least if Mitchell and Snyder are to be believed).
@VixenLovelove
@VixenLovelove 8 күн бұрын
I hope this leak is actually true cause it would be so dope and fit in very nicely with the avatar series. I’m a huge fan of Korra so I could definitely see her taking a liking to this kid. I mean unfortunately Korra is the only past life she can connect to now, but maybe that can change and part of Pavi’s journey is bringing back the connection to the past lives. Also she’s an earth bender so like if she loses her prosthetic she can just bend herself a new one from earth and or metal. Wouldn’t that be cool!
@sophs8548
@sophs8548 8 күн бұрын
The cognitive dissonance of complaining about Pavi's disability when Toph, THE fan favorite earthbending powerhouse, was also disabled. Like huh??? (It's because she’s brown isn’t it?)
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 8 күн бұрын
Yes it’s because she’s brown
@saladcaesar7716
@saladcaesar7716 4 күн бұрын
I love the theory by slice of otaku. Each reincarnation is what the avatar wished he did more in his life. Aang wished to embrace his role earlier but he ran away. Korra wished she was more careful in delicate situation. I hope the new avatar is a sweet bean.
@anxia-tea5846
@anxia-tea5846 4 күн бұрын
i love this
@kumatorahaltmanndreemurr
@kumatorahaltmanndreemurr 8 күн бұрын
Im not even into avatar at this point in my life, but I wanna draw Pavi fanart now
@AntrozLPs
@AntrozLPs 7 күн бұрын
The only thing I'm not a too big a fan of is the clothing, especially on Pavi's bodyguard. It feels way too... cartoony? Like Voltron? Not like any real clothing, not even something we would wear today, which is around the time-period this series is supposed to take place.
@carimeslockdownedtree2654
@carimeslockdownedtree2654 6 күн бұрын
I think the design of the clothes is fine, but maybe the colors are a bit too bright, which is probably why people compare her to a pokemon character
@Mantakorra
@Mantakorra 4 күн бұрын
I was also thinking that they looked very voltron like lol
@pandorapuppy
@pandorapuppy Күн бұрын
That was my exact (and only, tbh) problem with the designs. The first time I saw them I didn't read the post caption at first and I assumed they were Voltron ocs or background characters. The face shapes, line work, colors, clothes, and shapes clash with the styles of the other two shows. I'd actually like to see a reworked version that replicates the avatar art style, I hope someone makes that.
@organicsatanic
@organicsatanic 8 күн бұрын
pavi looks like a pokemon character
@GrimAngel01100
@GrimAngel01100 7 күн бұрын
I actually think its interesting how Pavi would have to learn to deal with the handicap of being an earth bender with a missing leg. Seismic sense is going to be a bit harder since she only has one foot to feel with, which will make learning and doing the same with the other leg (likey from the stump) an interesting notion. Even more interesting i think if her sister is the dark avatar and ends up the metal bender, while Ravi ends up the lava bender, because then she will be at a unique disadvantage against her should they have to fight.
@TalkerDudeMan
@TalkerDudeMan 5 күн бұрын
Those two feel more like pokemon designs for some reason, though i couldn't tell you why.
@Thelostpinetree
@Thelostpinetree 6 күн бұрын
Im questioning the clothes more than anything. Not saying their were bad or anything, just trying to understand the world and era she’s supposed to be in lol hmmmmm
@papermr.magolorguy7957
@papermr.magolorguy7957 6 күн бұрын
Dawg, she’s so adorable. How could someone be so angry. She looks like she has tons of story potential, and would definitely be a protagonist I root for. Pavi defense squad rise up
@jefferybrown6473
@jefferybrown6473 8 күн бұрын
Best character arc that I can envision would be that this Avatar has to learn that she has to leverage her connections and intelligence to achieve what she wants and being the Avatar is a direct obstacle that bars her.
@shoxy-the-pinecone6113
@shoxy-the-pinecone6113 8 күн бұрын
I will likely be proven wrong but I imagine based on these designs that these two will have a sorta Simon and Kamina / Reigen and Mob dynamic. With Pavi being shy and anxious despite her power and having her weaker but more self assured mentor figure encourage and hype her up
@gidofter_lukge
@gidofter_lukge 8 күн бұрын
I'm glad I don't go on twitter anymore
@noatak9243
@noatak9243 8 күн бұрын
Why
@SirDanFilmsUnltd
@SirDanFilmsUnltd 8 күн бұрын
Come to Bluesky, where it’s much more chill
@treywilliams1388
@treywilliams1388 8 күн бұрын
Good
@QT3.14-w2p
@QT3.14-w2p 8 күн бұрын
And I'm glad I never made one
@Hawkatana
@Hawkatana 8 күн бұрын
@@noatak9243 Why _would_ you want to be on Twitter?
@phoen1xx63
@phoen1xx63 7 күн бұрын
Are u saying that people are just spontaneously combusting for what essentially is a fanart? ... Yeah, I believe that.
@Caleb-VA
@Caleb-VA 7 күн бұрын
If this is real, they have 2 options. They can do the same shit media has been doing for the past few years and make Pavi's story about some half-baked metaphor about empowerment and representation, and you have to like her cause brown! Or they can do the smart thing and hire actual good writers and make her a real, likable character with flaws who we want to see grow. Either way, I'm not a fan of the Voltron art style, and it should've been Avatar Genji.
@Waxican
@Waxican 6 күн бұрын
This bro, you cooked. People aren’t freaking out because she’s brown, female, and disabled. They are worried that the story is going to be example 1 you presented because that’s the pattern people have been recognizing when these types of characters are created.
@CanofArizona
@CanofArizona 4 күн бұрын
A lot of people are missing that the past 10 years or so have tainted the perception of general audiences because of how hard inclusion was being pushed at the expense of the product. This all boils down to basic pattern recognition. You have all these activists to thank that got into these studios and pumped out garbage. The climate has a lot to do with the reaction.
@gunthergutmensch3006
@gunthergutmensch3006 7 күн бұрын
4:55 Ah yes, the gender cycle. That´s why Aang was the Avatar after Roku.
@tabouretarepasser730
@tabouretarepasser730 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, there isn't really any pattern to the avatar's gender as far as we know. The fire bender before Roku was male as well
@theshire9173
@theshire9173 6 күн бұрын
And people originally thought a different guy was the avatar when it was actually Kyoshi. That wouldn’t happen if there was a gender cycle
@RedX03
@RedX03 8 күн бұрын
2:53 WAIT SHES THE AVATR, ok now that will be interesting She’s just a whittle baby😭
@thesmilyguyguy9799
@thesmilyguyguy9799 7 күн бұрын
Yes
@nnickplays9713
@nnickplays9713 6 күн бұрын
They better be cool with that leg. Earth bender with a missing leg, thats such crazy limitless potential. If they cant be creative with that leg, then the entire show is lost and will not be worth remembering. (It is the benchmark and the signal. Did they do it to earn social credit from their peers or did they do it to do something cool)
@theshadowman8801
@theshadowman8801 7 күн бұрын
Let them cook, I been waiting for avatar content for decades.
@ankundamwebembezi6358
@ankundamwebembezi6358 7 күн бұрын
It's been about a decade
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 4 күн бұрын
The last time we let them cook, we got Korra. Maybe they should stay out of the kitchen. Or make sure they're following the recipe this time around.
@FicInves
@FicInves 6 күн бұрын
Im glad she is a kid and not an adult or late teens like Korra
@IcyPastel
@IcyPastel 7 күн бұрын
Not surprised. People often dog on things for what they deem is "justified criticism", but really it's hatred for the disabled or minorities (etc, etc) in a trench coat. I love the avatar's design and I hope they make something decent with these new characters. I don't want the original. I don't want the opposite of Kora. I think they need something fresh that doesn't cling so hard to the past, while still feeling familiar. It's going to be tough for sure. Toph was my favorite in the original and an inspiration to many I think. I'm incredibly happy to see we're getting an earthbender avatar (If it ends up being a true leak)! One more and we'll have all four elements. To me that's really exciting to think about. I just hope they don't coddle this avatar too much, like a fragile piece of porcelain, because of their disability.
@BunnyLove5763
@BunnyLove5763 8 күн бұрын
I hope Pavi is real just so these tourists can get madder about it tbh. also because she's adorable ngl.
@thesmilyguyguy9799
@thesmilyguyguy9799 7 күн бұрын
Yes She is SO F@#+ING CUTE
@nicestpancake
@nicestpancake 7 күн бұрын
Im just so confused... every part of Pavi that one could even construe as "woke" is IN the main ATLA cast.........????
@jimothyworldbuilding3664
@jimothyworldbuilding3664 8 күн бұрын
Yeah I saw some of those tweets and thought they were way off. She looks South Asian, which fits lore, and her having a prosthetic leg is just good for an underdog story. They're dumb things to complain about and make it pretty clear you've been over-poisoned with hatred of anything "woke." Actual criticism: The leg looks the same as those athletes use, which on the one hand makes sense but on the other is a little bit boring (mfw when no bending-powered / bending-made super cool steampunk prosthetic). She's absolutely adorable. Pat on the head and give an apple material. I think they could lean into her vulnerability / underdogness by giving her bigger or messier clothes, as they'd make her seem smaller, but I get the feeling this would be her after she's started coming into her own just a little bit and is being taken care of by the big guy. The one actual complaint I have, since the other two points are just improvements on already good design, is that they're both dressed like Pokemon characters. Like if you told me they were from Pokemon I'd believe you. They should look like, y'know, Avatar characters, not Pokemon characters.
@MaxM210
@MaxM210 8 күн бұрын
It's funny, A couple months ago I had this whole idea that the next Avatar should be an Earth Bender girl that loses a limb. It's super weird that ended up being the case. My idea was that she'd lose an arm in battle, like halfway through the series and would have to bend a prosthetic out of Earth or Metal and a big part of the series from then on would be her struggling with phantom limb while bending.
@iainhansen1047
@iainhansen1047 4 күн бұрын
My biggest critique is that she looks like a Pokémon trainer. People being mad about her missing a leg and having melanin are genuinely delusional.
@TheDanishGuyReviews
@TheDanishGuyReviews 8 күн бұрын
I wonder if it'll ever come out. I seem to recall a bunch of half-promises and whispered rumours, but nothing's actually out yet. And for that matter, speaking of rumours, I wonder if Pavi is really official. If she is, I was wondering when in the timeline it would happen. I was thinking it could be further along, skipping some Avatars. And if I'm right, then a couple of the complainers' lore argument disappears.
@eclipzex77
@eclipzex77 5 күн бұрын
I only got to 0:55 and i felt my squeleton leaving my body as i muttered: "Is that the Voltron artstyle...?"
@NoreMakOfThe3
@NoreMakOfThe3 8 күн бұрын
I hadn't heard about this, but my only thoughts were "huh, starting with a much smaller team this time", "oh, neat designs", "I hope they don't spend as much time amongst technology in this series, I wasn't a huge fan of that in Korra", and "Oh hey, she's disabled, I wonder how that will play into her personal struggles and the plot if at all?" And then you reminded me that a vocal minority of people on the internet have 0 media literacy. Like... Avatar got woke JUST NOW??? So you're just gonna ignore Teo, Toph, Combustion Man, the avatar who had no arms (who I don't think had a name but I could be wrong), and whoever else was disabled in the original series who didn't IMMEDIATELY come to mind? The answer is yes. They will ignore them. I feel like I'll need to see these two in animation before making a strong opinion and it remains to be seen if it'll actually be written well, but as of this moment, I see nothing to be upset about. I'm not hyped, they're fine designs by all means and I appreciate them being inclusive AS ALWAYS, but until we get something more substantial, I'll temper my expectations.
@joesunday199
@joesunday199 7 күн бұрын
Just to let you know; that Fire Avatar does have arms. You just need took closer to her sides.
@koernerkomedy
@koernerkomedy 8 күн бұрын
The biggest concern I'd have about Avatar Pavi is what the hell the role of the Avatar is in the post-Avatar world that Korra set up.
@Kev.NTheLich
@Kev.NTheLich 2 күн бұрын
This new artstyle reminds me alot more of pokemon than it does avatar which is kinda 50/50 cause its great theyre trying something new but its also feels like we're losing that avatar identity the old artstyle had
@giga_chad9
@giga_chad9 7 күн бұрын
They’re not even taking into account that this is gonna take place closer into modern times (in the avatar universe), this is not going to have an affect on the main story in that way, no lore is broken, no characters we loved were butchered, and this is a concept art, not even a finalized piece. Another thing to mention is that characters are their own characters, they’re not replacing any of the characters we love, the studio is doing their job and expanding on the world they created.
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 7 күн бұрын
Actual Gigachad Comment.
@joesunday199
@joesunday199 7 күн бұрын
Well, in truth we don't know hat happens to everyone else. They could have died during the the cataclysm. We also don't know of there are meant to be 2 Avatars which wouldn't make much sense.
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 4 күн бұрын
"no lore is broken" There was a massive jump in technology going from TLA to LoK, specifically the latter having whole ass giant mechas. Nevermind the refinement and widespreadness of Metalbending. So why the heck is what's supposed to be an even further modernized Avatar walking around with an old-fashioned prosthetic and not something both cooler and more reasonable for the setting like a bionic leg or something akin to Edward Elric's metal limbs? There's no reason that a post-Korra Avatar would be given subpar treatment like this, especially when White Lotus has been actively seeking out Avatars after Aang to train and protect them. This indirectly makes Pavi's era look somehow less advanced than Korra's, and makes the group designed to nurture future Avatars look incompetent.
@mastermuffles7097
@mastermuffles7097 8 күн бұрын
The only thing that I particularly don't like about the next series (That I know is real) is the fact that her animal sidekick is a cat-monkey. That this is both horrifying visually and conceptually. I think giving cats more ways to cause problems on purpose with opposable thumbs is a terrifying thought.
@monerb7185
@monerb7185 8 күн бұрын
we had a platypus bears we already knew nature in that universe was evil incarnate does it sweat milk because it doesnot have nipples, does it lay eggs, is it venomous????? in comparison a cat monkey is fairly tame
@mastermuffles7097
@mastermuffles7097 8 күн бұрын
@@monerb7185 I do not trust the mischief of a cat with opposable thumbs.
@thevioletbee5879
@thevioletbee5879 6 күн бұрын
How do you know it’s real?
@siennaistrans
@siennaistrans 8 күн бұрын
avatar pavi being disabled makes for some really cool power opportunities too, idk why people are so mad, i'd love to see her learn to channel fire or earth to create a prosthetic that she uses to kick ass.
@stuckerfan2563
@stuckerfan2563 8 күн бұрын
Heck there's metalbending Also it would be cool to use elements to help her walk better like how she could coat her legs in earth so her kick is harder or to help her stabilize better Heck she could focus on standing still but using Earthbending to move the earth underneath her so she doesn't stay still in a fight
@jd2792
@jd2792 7 күн бұрын
I am sure they were some banders in the show that didnt need all there arms and legs to bend so its not really suprising
@Pajama_Mike
@Pajama_Mike 6 күн бұрын
the main point from that big tweet is that toph was seriously well written. She was a badass bender partially thanks to her blindness but it was a double edged sword for obvious reasons. She was really unique because before her there were like 4 popular characters that were blind and 3 were mice. Now there's a lot more rep for all disabilities and I'm here for it, but as a byproduct a lot of it is just slop unfortunately. I think the only thing we can do about avatar pavi is wait.
@grimloncz3853
@grimloncz3853 7 күн бұрын
Imagine if Pavi was, like Korra, kept in seclusion. But unlike Korra, she was being pampered so that she never matures as avatar. Basically, if you can't beat them, rot their teeth with sugar and erase their stamina with plenty of rest and no exercise.
@pokepoke1889
@pokepoke1889 8 күн бұрын
Pavi is cute tho.. I love her design and her little prosthetic (?)
@RaiginAnimator
@RaiginAnimator 6 күн бұрын
WHO Tf made the comment about the gender cycle of avatar 😂😂😂 Bro the Avatar before Aang wasn’t also a dude
@user-oh6uw9mu9u
@user-oh6uw9mu9u 6 күн бұрын
I thought they were voltron characters at first 😔
@cakewak
@cakewak 5 күн бұрын
Imagen if it's the same studio
@Zappyjoan
@Zappyjoan 8 күн бұрын
The only thing I'm really worried about is the fact that the world might have been totally reshaped by Korra. It scares me that the next series might be totally dethatched from the original world
@vullanforcechoke
@vullanforcechoke 8 күн бұрын
If the rumors are true, then yeah, I definitely see how this could turn out bad. But it also has a lot of potential. For example, what if this is a story about an Avatar in a world that might not even need one anymore? What if the Havens aren't as good as they're suppose to be? Of course it's all just speculation but I'm definitly interested in how this will go
@BARALover96
@BARALover96 8 күн бұрын
Personally. I always thought that the world should change
@DumAzzFairy
@DumAzzFairy 8 күн бұрын
I think this is my fear as well. Through out Korra the world since season one has felt like a fluid "eh what ever the writers need it to be is fine" but it just leaves season 2 and 3 feeling ungrounded in my opinion. It feels more like an non linear episodic adventure because new stuff is constantly getting brought up then promptly forgotten an episode or two later. Like what happened to Asami's company that literally MASS produced battle mechs that were making non benders capable of fighting trained benders? Season 2 and 3 have no clue what you are talking about mass produced mechs? No actually there are 0 repercussions of those being scattered into the world during a violent uprising. When the bad guys lose all the bad stuff just "goes away" and Atla wasnt that shallow, things had repercussions and a community in recovery wasnt convienently never shown again. With all the conflicting decisions Korra (the show)made for the world in season 1 and 2 the entire world should be a terrifying cross of spirited away and jurassic park had a baby by season 3 but once culty mc cult man shows up the world being in spiritual turmoil takes a gigantic step into the background. That really brings me to my other problem through out Korrah the Korrah rarley helps specific people of the world who arent family friends or friends of family. The world of Korrah feels like it has no strangers because anyone who isnt important is demoted to set dressing instead of supporting character. Korrah might do morally good things but almost none of them were her going out of her way to help individuals, I can easily count off atleast 3 or 4 unrelated people and 2 whole towns that the ATLA crew helped directly by going out of their way. I think it makes Korrah's journey feel hollow as a majority of the things she does are for personal reasons like a loved one or a loved one's loved one is in danger or "fight obvious bad guys for the greater good" with no really present victim other than nameless or barely named screaming people who you dont really get to learn about or revisit meaningfully ever keeping in mind that we see side locations and side characters in ATLA on average of twice if not more.
@Gatekid3
@Gatekid3 8 күн бұрын
my 2 thoughts on that are 1, the world kept advancing so if things got too futuristic things would be detached anyway 2 with the avatar cycle already hurt by korra there could be a focus on reconnecting to the previous world both spiritually (fixing the severed connection) or physically, though the people and spirits that remember. it's definitely a mixed bag, but i think both advancing and destroying the world risk taking away aspects of the world we love. I just hope
@BARALover96
@BARALover96 8 күн бұрын
@@Gatekid3 personally I don’t want the connection to be fixed. I want them to lean 9n the idea that the new avatar cycle is kinda different now in some way. I want the past lives before Korra that actually be lost. I don’t like people’s obsession of it having to come back to the status quo They will still have advance technology but I felt like the whole water tribe, earth kingdom, fire nation and air nomads whole schtick had to change. With Korra they already set up the first steps for that change.
@Bandikit
@Bandikit 4 күн бұрын
I'm sorry but the next avatar looks less like an official protagonist and more like a high guardian spice oc. And that has nothing to do with the disability or skin tone, no. The art style is... off. It brings back... unpleasant memories... Edit: Ok i realize in the original text it might sound like I'm coming off in a different way than intended, so I feel like i should further clarify that I am neither mad nor crying "woke." I just.... something about the art style seems so off, like i can't be the only one seeing this! The prosthetic is neat, i think disability in protagonists makes for good potential conflict. The outfit is fine, post apocalypse is a cool concept. But... idk the art style just puts me off for some reason. Something about the proportions maybe? It reminds me too much of how HGS looks.
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 4 күн бұрын
If it makes you feel better, you might be the only one who looks at these characters and sees the much behated HGS. Voltron and Pokemon comparisons have been made and those I think have more a lot more weight to them. For me, I’d rather have the designs lean Pokemon over Voltron if I had to choose. I understand why people might want the 2000s pseudo-anime aesthetic of the original, but Pokémon’s modern art style has generated one banger character design after the other and it also evolved from that franchise’s early days.
@Bandikit
@Bandikit 4 күн бұрын
@@WeRNotAlive now that you mention it, i do see pokemon a bit too. Idk it might just be me, i watched a video dunking on HGS yesterday so maybe because it was fresh on the brain that my mind connected the two art styles.
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 4 күн бұрын
You poor soul. I would never subject to myself to a second more of HGS if I could help it. Unless it's that one succubus(?) teacher with the inexplicably thirsty design.
@jrgenbirkeland8451
@jrgenbirkeland8451 8 күн бұрын
i love her design, but i can't seem to find much resemblence between her and and Asami other than green eyes(refering to the theory of the new incarnation looking like the preveous avatars lover). This might be because she is a child though. If anyone sees anything else, please tell me :)
@pienoaji
@pienoaji 8 күн бұрын
I really wish any of those idiots could see this video but there's no way it'll penetrate the algorithmic feedback loop echo chamber
@Star-vf8vz
@Star-vf8vz 8 күн бұрын
Ventured to the toxic wasteland of Twitter to look at your original tweet, and seeing people say Toph isn't "woke" because she's well written. And here we are with some guys complaining about a disabled character seemingly just from 1 picture. Truly, you are a prophet.
@-fidget-1548
@-fidget-1548 8 күн бұрын
I don’t like the futuristic angle, but it might actually work so I will forever forget kora and be optimistic
@al_eggs
@al_eggs 8 күн бұрын
bullet baby reference
@ToadMarvelous
@ToadMarvelous 8 күн бұрын
If she is not real i hope she's someone's fan project. I'd read it
@thesmilyguyguy9799
@thesmilyguyguy9799 7 күн бұрын
Same
@Mad94403
@Mad94403 7 күн бұрын
Aang did not die for this 😭
@lenz7809
@lenz7809 6 күн бұрын
Yeah there’s probably a reason as to why people are migrating to Bluesky now
@Missingno700
@Missingno700 8 күн бұрын
Honestly , my only thought is that they look like voltron characters
@rosebud8027
@rosebud8027 7 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure Voltron and Korra were both animated by Studio Mir So that's probably why
@secondbeamship
@secondbeamship 5 күн бұрын
When the Avatar is early on strong it’s bad and when the Avatar is weak early that’s also bad. Sounds like they don’t like dark skinned female characters. The salt is tasty though.
@okeirany7652
@okeirany7652 7 күн бұрын
I think my only problem with this leak is just. The artstyle. It's not BAD, but it's very Modern DreamWorks 2D/Modern Pokémon, and it's mostly down to the shapes and lineart. Not objectively bad, just uncomfortably different to the relatively consistent artstyles of TLA and LOK.
@WyJ522
@WyJ522 7 күн бұрын
I want to see Pavi make a leg by bending like Earth or maybe ice. That could be pretty good.
@yonatanhoresh2695
@yonatanhoresh2695 8 минут бұрын
I love how the "Gender cycle of the Avatar" is apparently a thing now that we've glanced past the Roku-Aang streak
@atanvardecunambiel8917
@atanvardecunambiel8917 8 күн бұрын
I will protect her, I want to see her grow up healthy, I want to tell my friends and neighbors about her
@cakewak
@cakewak 5 күн бұрын
They just get mad when a character is disabled or a darker shade Fair skin: Good Any darker skin tone: WOKE, bad, and forced!!
@parkerdixon-word6295
@parkerdixon-word6295 7 күн бұрын
What's interesting to me is that the prosthetic and her friend's outfit look relatively modern, which to me makes the image of a little girl with a leg prosthetic really evoke images of modern civil wars in the Middle East. There's interesting potential there for a series with a more modern theming to have this kid be essentially an orphan from a war-torn corner of the Earth Kingdom, still unstable even a generation after the events of Legend of Korra, and that sounds like a potentially really interesting place for a new Avatar to come from. And Avatar who lost a leg to a goddamned land mine or something as a child is a dark but interesting angle, and watching the person she becomes to try and end these sorts of conflicts sounds like it has potential. Like, after Legend of Korra, my expectations are still that the interesting ideas will be largely squandered on a solidly mid series that doesn't have the depth or secret sauce of TLA, and the show will have to come out and be great to convince me otherwise, but good potential starting points are worth appreciating.
@secondbeamship
@secondbeamship 5 күн бұрын
There was never a “gender cycle” to the Avatar. It’s a coin toss. We don’t even know if she’s a girl that’s a judgement based a child’s design in androgynous clothing.
@Soy_boi
@Soy_boi 2 күн бұрын
It is so wild that people who love the original series with the disabled 12 yr old earthbender girl are upset that the sequel with have *gasp* a disabled 10 yr old earthbender girl! Your tweet has never rang so true. As a person with a few disabilities, Toph was always a role model to me growing up, so this behavior from people who watched the exact same show is disgusting.
@rozmarinideas5340
@rozmarinideas5340 8 күн бұрын
She is adorable, I love her. :)
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 5 күн бұрын
Some of those tweets are way worse than others
@anxia-tea5846
@anxia-tea5846 4 күн бұрын
anyone who unironically says “woke” should not be allowed to like Avatar. They’ve literally completely lost the point of the the show. Imbeciles.
@trinstonmichaels7062
@trinstonmichaels7062 8 күн бұрын
Like anyone who still uses X as a Serious platform is just so dumb like it's just so bad now.
@GurrenPrime
@GurrenPrime 8 күн бұрын
The character design looks great. I’m a little worried about Avatar being milked too much, but if this is real, I’d be willing to try it since I’ve been kinda interested in a “modern” or even futuristic setting for the Avatar universe ever since Korra showed that their world is still going through technological advancements, unlike some other fantasy settings.
@pepsiman4633
@pepsiman4633 8 күн бұрын
Praying that this new shit turns out to be straight gas, calling it now by the end of book 1 Pavi's gonna ditch that janky prosthetic for a kick ass rock leg
@RDrawzDragonz
@RDrawzDragonz 8 күн бұрын
I think pavi, judging by her design ((as an artist myself)), will be a very caring avatar who is outgoing, energetic, caring, but skittish and afraid of change... I think she will have a backstory: shell have never traveled before and this is her first time, if shes skittish and afraid of change this may be the direction they take.... also because shes the earth avatar, and also to contrast aang and korra theyll make her more of a responisble person. also i think , cuz of prosthetic leg and general physique, theyve made her physically lacking and more intelligent as a character foil to korra. also her being an amputee and having a prosthetic leg is really interesting, if she trains to metal bend how will she be able to utilize it in combat??? and even if she doesnt, still interesting. also maybe shell be able to switch her legs from a walking prosthetic leg type to a running type, also maybe she can mimic the functionalities of a microprocessor leg??? ... Also since the design of the leg is more similar to a running/blade leg this may mean shes more outdoorsy ??? also excited cuz avatar has awlways handled writing disability really well :) also i think her guide animal will have a bigger role in the plot than any previous avatar... i think all this cuz shes earth avatar and also cuz her colourpallete is mostly green and pink which symbolizes nature, safety, and loving/kindness.... Her shape theory is square which symbolized stability, safety and trust... and her shillouette has alot of lines going outwards, which means its an more outgoing design compared to what would be if they were going inwards...
@mistuh69420
@mistuh69420 5 күн бұрын
my one complaint comes from a design basis: the outfits and designs look too streamlined. I know it's a future setting and it's early concept art, but I think some more trinkets and baubles floating about would flesh out the characters. I am a mini painter tho, so I am a sucker for bits and greeblies.
@Nolan-v3h
@Nolan-v3h 3 күн бұрын
We Are Not Alive (Now): I can't understand why people are so upset. People need to chill out, it has potential. We Are Not Alive (When the show comes out): yeaaaaah this isn't good at all.
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 2 күн бұрын
Even if it does suck, being racist and ableist (which is the thing I’m actually criticizing btw) is not a normal response.
@Nolan-v3h
@Nolan-v3h Күн бұрын
I don't have anything against Pavi, its just that I'm skeptical that the new show will be anything special in the long run. It won't reach ATLA, but maybe it can barely reach TLOK level. I could very well be wrong, but people have a right to compare the new show with how the show originate and speak their mind on what ATLA did right (Plot/Unique Characters) that people these days fail to pay attention to or invest in. Hopefully Pavi isn't defined by her disability and that she ends like Toph.
@rainingfist
@rainingfist 8 күн бұрын
If that kid is really going to be the new Avatar. This might mean the side characters will probably have a lot of character development that the legend of Korra missed out on. Im thinking this because she looks younger than aang so she needs a lot of help and guidance.
@secondbeamship
@secondbeamship 5 күн бұрын
They got what they wanted a weak Avatar that has to grow.
@TrulyMorningstar
@TrulyMorningstar 6 күн бұрын
Please scrap those designs Avatar studios 🙏
@kingofflames738
@kingofflames738 4 күн бұрын
These guys would go crazy if HTTYD came out today.
@secondbeamship
@secondbeamship 5 күн бұрын
They do know that Aang is Asian right?
@OopisDoopis
@OopisDoopis 6 күн бұрын
If this is real I'm actually excited. I'm getting Dororo (2019) Dororo and Hyakkimaru vibes but with their roles reversed. Also excited for the metal bending to come :D
@WeRNotAlive
@WeRNotAlive 4 күн бұрын
Now that’s some hongetara I can get behind!
@secondbeamship
@secondbeamship 5 күн бұрын
A private company is allowed to do what they want. So much for free market.
@secondbeamship
@secondbeamship 5 күн бұрын
Society is fucking cooked. These are real ass people.
@sadotaku9266
@sadotaku9266 8 күн бұрын
Wait, she has a pet HogMonkey? That's so sick, i remember beating the crap outta those things in that old gamecube avatar games and theyd make the most ungodly sounds.
@sternritternovad
@sternritternovad 8 күн бұрын
My theory is still that the Calamity was Vaatu regenerating and Korra died separating Raava and Vaatu and forcing them through the cycle of rebirth.
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