The Balkans, Yugoslavia and the Purpose of NATO

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@Athena-Mele
@Athena-Mele 9 ай бұрын
Tank you so much Mr. Oberg for speaking up and explaining the war on former Jugoslavia, why and what really happened that NATO bombed Serbia. It was unlawful and cruel what NATO did with Serbia and Kosovo. The bad think is, that no one was prosecuted for it and that the damage wasn’t repaired. That makes me sick.
@nostromokg
@nostromokg 9 ай бұрын
Now there's a man with deep understanding and perspective on ex Yu. Thank you for this video. Huge respect from Serbia.
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 8 ай бұрын
He has no clue. He repeated the Serbian propaganda lies.
@gorangoran6335
@gorangoran6335 8 ай бұрын
@@tongobong1 Your comment is very popular here.
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 8 ай бұрын
@@gorangoran6335 Truth is usually not very popular because people usually believe the first laud explanation and many of them are false.
@jabranislav
@jabranislav 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know how I stumbled on this video but i'm amazed that someone from the west have this opinion and is willing to speak. And I think new generation will only know propaganda not the real reasons or events.
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 8 ай бұрын
He just repeated Serbian/Russian propaganda. The truth is quite different.
@Darkdarkdark123
@Darkdarkdark123 8 ай бұрын
​@@tongobong1Well then you have Problem.After 1945 ther's some document 's whit sugnitures and what a surprise some Nazi units in Ukraina and Western cantries and China and Russia some nuclear Potential...
@ryanmader162
@ryanmader162 4 ай бұрын
As a young Marine I was deployed to Kosovo for a peace keeping mission in 2001. Our Serbian translator Vikie told me what was going on there. I wasn't able to except this at that time. I see it with crystal clear vision now. It's time for the USA to understand.
@GoranJovanovic-fr1ig
@GoranJovanovic-fr1ig Ай бұрын
​@@ryanmader162Thank you, Ryan.
@heathcliffearnshaw1403
@heathcliffearnshaw1403 9 ай бұрын
Since 1945 Europe has not existed politically: only as American sphere of influence Europe and Russian sphere of influence Europe.
@brankog7
@brankog7 9 ай бұрын
From a Yugoslav Thank you Sir, very interesting video.
@Marjan986
@Marjan986 9 ай бұрын
I congratulate you on your analysis and I can only thank you for making an effort to explain to the audience the complexity of the former Yugoslavia. Let's not forget that the pressures and blackmails in the area of ​​the former Yugoslavia continue to this day by the same forces that created the conflicts (the West), especially in Kosovo and Metohija as well as in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Let's not forget the largest NA*TO base in Kosovo and Metohija, which has strategic importance for the alliance itself, and let's not forget that the construction of that base was the reason for the NA*TO intervention over Yugoslavia in '99. Even today, the West maintains ethnic tension and incites nations among themselves in order to activate conflicts if necessary, as they do today in the case of Israel and Palestine. The West should be ashamed of the evil and suffering it has inflicted on the peoples of the Balkans, especially the Serbs.
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your to the point comment Marjan. The issue is real and more should be aware of the dangerous influence NATO has in Europe and it's neighbours.
@unlimitedcosmicspeed
@unlimitedcosmicspeed 9 ай бұрын
@Marjan986 you bring up some very good points that most people are not aware about. To add, most people are unaware that the US and Nato hold the controlling interests in mining, public utilities and telecommunications in Kosovo. The money from their own natural resources does even not stay in and benefit the country/region. Apart from trying to strategically position all through the Balkans, the US/Nato wanted to exploit all the mining and resources and public utilities in Bosnia and Serbia with not as much success.
@Marjan986
@Marjan986 9 ай бұрын
@@unlimitedcosmicspeed I agree with you, the breakup of Yugoslavia was supposed to create a reason for NATO to exist, while on the other hand there was that economic benefit. In this way, the Western countries imposed their economic model on society through privatization, IMF lending, where all the countries of the Balkans were brought into debt slavery. In this way, a platform was created for further blackmail and manipulation. After the bombing in 1999, Serbia and NATO signed a peace agreement in Kumanovo, in which it was clearly stated that Kosovo is an inalienable part of Serbia, where Serbia and then Yugoslavia were to withdraw part of their troops from Kosovo so that the UN peacekeeping mission (KFOR) could begin its mission to preserve "peace". Of course, there was nothing to maintain "peace" and there was a large exodus of the Serbian population due to the torture of Shiptars (Kosovo Albanians). In this way, the USA, as well as the entire collective West, once again violated international law and implemented the annexation of Kosovo without a referendum and without any legal basis. Today, there are fewer and fewer Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija because all their rights have been taken away and they live in a kind of "ghetto" and torture. The state of Serbia is powerless to help its people in Kosovo, although according to UN resolution 1244, it has the right to deploy up to 1,000 members of the army and police. Any intervention by Serbia would be considered aggression and would likely be met with bombing and sanctions again. From '99 until today, the country of Serbia is an occupied country in which the West (the American ambassador) has the main say. We are faced with many problems, from a wrong and imposed economic model to population exodus and population decline. Today, Kosovo is the black hole of the Balkans and Europe, a hotbed of prostitution, drugs, human and organ trafficking, and there is evidence that jihadists are being trained and so on. Kosovo Albanians (Šiptars) are actively working to destroy the Serbian cultural heritage in Kosovo and Metohija, rewrite Serbian history, destroy cemeteries, monuments, churches and monasteries. For us Serbs, the Kosovo issue is an identity issue because it is deeply rooted in our history. The oldest Serbian monasteries are located in Kosovo, the oldest Serbian epic songs were sung about Kosovo. If we renounce Kosovo, we will lose our identity, and that is what the West wants, the destruction of the Serbs.
@unlimitedcosmicspeed
@unlimitedcosmicspeed 9 ай бұрын
@@Marjan986 Certainly an unjust situation. The facts have been distorted by the media, US govt/military and Nato. I recall that snake Madeleine Albright insulting and denigrating Serbs while she was building her investment portfolio in Montenegro, Serbia and Bosnia. Her investments spanned utilities, telecommunications, various companies, mining etc. How many other US and Nato officials were gouging themselves on the spoils of war? SMH
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 8 ай бұрын
Serbs and Russians should be ashamed for attacking neighbours.
@stellatoweett1201
@stellatoweett1201 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for the quick summary.
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome Stella :) happy it was useful!
@stm.natural_selection
@stm.natural_selection 8 ай бұрын
A gentleman and a scholar
@john99776
@john99776 9 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I have a place near Dubrovnik and love the area. I've read several books about the breakup but can see that you have very valuable information and analysis that I haven't been exposed to. I look forward to reading more.
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 8 ай бұрын
This guy just repeated Serbian propaganda about the break up that is mostly false. If you want the real truth about the break up then read my reply here and I can tell you that it is not pro or against Serbian.
@danijelkohran7938
@danijelkohran7938 9 ай бұрын
God Bless you Mr. Oberg Everything you said is 100% true.❤
@dusancville
@dusancville 9 ай бұрын
It's hard to split EU expansion to the East of Europe from NATO expansion to the East of Europe. It was a parallel process. Allies on the ground, foots on the ground were just the same as in ww2 Nazzi Germany expansion to the East of Europe. Croats, Bosniaks, Albanians ones participating in SS Divisions fighting as far as Stalingrad (Croats), in 90ies helped EU in disintegration of Yugoslavia. That was the least complicated pattern for EU/US to follow.
@PeroZderoPeroZdero
@PeroZderoPeroZdero 9 ай бұрын
What was Jugoslav Army doing in Slovenia,Croatia,Bosina?
@anuvisraa5786
@anuvisraa5786 8 ай бұрын
Defending The nation
@jossdionne9810
@jossdionne9810 5 ай бұрын
"Home Sweden Home" wish you peace and more love!!
@daseladi
@daseladi 8 ай бұрын
Dear Mr. Öberg, I have seen two of your videos.Before the first one I thought, here is another westerner with no idea about my country and he is going to sell me his nice theories about it. As you started speaking, my mouth dropped open, such was my surprise. Here comes one who knows what he is talking about. Thank you, Mr. Öberg.
@SH-jg5zq
@SH-jg5zq 9 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 8 ай бұрын
Hello everyone, want to invite you to our yearly Peace justice conference that will take place at DNS college on the west coast of Denmark, from the 17th to the 19th of May 2024. This year’s is our 10th year anniversary of the conference and the title is Teaching for Peace 🧙🏽‍♂ See more and register: www.peace-justice.org/peace-justice-conference-2024/ We will try to have Jan Oberg to be with us again this year :)
@als5482
@als5482 3 жыл бұрын
great video
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 2 жыл бұрын
:) thank you
@ekesandras1481
@ekesandras1481 9 ай бұрын
The economic crisis was not caused by the reasons you describe. The massive outsourcing to Asia didn't happen until the late 1980ies, early 1990ies, when Yugoslavia was already in a very deep crisis. Before that, Western European companies could only outsource to Spain, Portugal, Southern Italy and Greece. Yugoslavia was never an option, because of its political system. And there was a crisis of heavy industry, like steel production all over the world, due to overcapacities and high energy costs. Western Europe overcame the crisis by advancing technologically, by producing more sophisticated higher priced goods. Something that Yugoslavia could not do and also East Germany, Romania or the Soviet Union were not able to ... for a simple reason: socialism. A planned command economy in a politically rigid police state is unable to innovate. The third reason is: Yugoslavia was pampered in the 1950ies and 1960ies by the West, showered with credits and technology transfer, because it was a brick in the wall of the communist block. The more Tito stood up against Moscow, the more help he got from Western Europe and the USA. This caused an economic boom. But it was not a genuine indigenous growth. It was a flash in the pan. When the Soviet Union under Gorbachov opened up, the Western powers didn't need Yugoslavia anymore as a thorn in the flesh of the Russians and the favorable credits stopped. The same is true for neighbouring Romania under Ceasescu. They were interesting partners just to annoy the Russians. There was never any profit to be made in Yugoslavia or Romania and many projects failed. But as long as they were politically useful, the credits kept coming in.
@PeriKulezich-cr3hu
@PeriKulezich-cr3hu 3 ай бұрын
You are a very humble and knowledgeable gentleman. Comments below in some cases are tunnel vision. People still do not get the complexities of the Yugoslav conflict. Simeone wrote so you are defending Milosevic thats not what you implied. If you want to go down that route bunch in Ilija and Franjo into the mixer!!! That aside I thought your piece was fascinating. Ive and continue to study the terrible break up of Yugoslavia, my Father and Grandparents were from that wonderful country. You are a beacon of common sense in a World that os sady going Backwards thank you. Hvala!
@goodwill3649
@goodwill3649 5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this podcast will I have to review it because of all the new material it brings forth thank you very much for your efforts
@lesliehourihan600
@lesliehourihan600 3 ай бұрын
Thank you..
@vericacvetkovic9093
@vericacvetkovic9093 9 ай бұрын
Hrushchov wanted to join NATO, but US said NO.
@karolinakuc4783
@karolinakuc4783 5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile after Iraq has been accepted there was a false flag after which they bombed the country. So maybe it turned out for good to Russia. Hehehe
@novizivot3631
@novizivot3631 Ай бұрын
Jan thank you for this!!! I am born and raised in Yugoslavia!!!
@lawrencebishton9071
@lawrencebishton9071 9 ай бұрын
correct
@chriscanzu7599
@chriscanzu7599 Ай бұрын
I am Macedonian and I love Serbia long live
@marianatoth5125
@marianatoth5125 7 ай бұрын
🤑NATO *= bloody ignorance =* CATASTROPHY😱 🙈🙉🙊
@marianatoth5125
@marianatoth5125 7 ай бұрын
🙏❤👍
@cecatomas4817
@cecatomas4817 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@Booringe
@Booringe 2 жыл бұрын
Im curious, you say that the west promised to not expand east, but even Gorbachev has said that was specifically for east GERMANY, do you have a source for this?
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there, Justas from DNS here, I cannot answer your question specifically, but I found an article on his website that might help you to clarify what Jan means. transnational.live/2022/01/26/putin-sets-a-new-red-line-on-nato-expansion/ Hope this helps.
@mikep584
@mikep584 8 ай бұрын
The most striking part is how they are using that "but the west promised" word of mouth fable to justify Russian aggressions toward its neighbours, which violated literally dozens of international treaties Russians had actually SIGNED starting with the UN charter. And now when ruZZians invaded Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine, and while ruZZia is threatening everyone to use nukes if Russians are not given what they are demanding, turns out Russia is not a threat, c'mon, that is merely pathetic
@andre8860
@andre8860 7 ай бұрын
Watching from Russia . Thank you sir
@redwater4778
@redwater4778 4 ай бұрын
Kosovo has mineral wealth . One mine there has been operating since the 1300 . USA has been on a quest to acquire the worlds mineral wealth . They own the copper mines of Chile Canada Sweden the nickel mines of Canada the chromium mines of Colombia South Africa the mine in Mexico Panama . Most of these countries saw a change of rule in the 80s and 90s . Everytime a change of rule occurs the miners tax is lowered. Each time the factories are closed and production taken to China.
@antoniescargo1529
@antoniescargo1529 8 ай бұрын
You forget the depleted uranium. Serbs are sick of this stuff.
@vericacvetkovic9093
@vericacvetkovic9093 9 ай бұрын
When Lisbon agreement, between Tudjman, Milosevic and Izetbegovic, was signed, they came back. US ambassador Warren Zimmermann went to Sarajevo to convince Izetbegovic to withdraw his signature and go ahead with the war. Izetbegovic agreed and the war started. You have US to blame for the war in Bosnia. US didn't want to miss out on the profits their military industrial complex would make if there was no war on Bosnia. As simple as that. May i also add that Clinton suggested to Alija Izetbegovic to sacrifice 5.000 Muslims in order to have a reason to bomb Republica Srpska region. Alija agreed and told his man Hakija Meholjic to do it. He refused and called him insane. During the war in Bosnia, Naser Oric and his men were slaughtering entire families of 1000s of Serbs around Srebrenica too, by cutting their throats. Nobody is mentioning that in the media. Naser was tried in the Hague and FOUND NOT GUILTY!!!! He is celebrated since as a hero in Bosnia.
@ЈулијанаБошковић
@ЈулијанаБошковић 5 ай бұрын
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@GrinGillis
@GrinGillis 8 ай бұрын
To not take the advantage of getting into the EU and Nato is just plain dumb.
@karolinakuc4783
@karolinakuc4783 5 ай бұрын
When Albanian refugees made havock in Macedonia in 2008 NATO said military action is unjust they almost took a piece of their land. Being part of NATO would cultural genocide for Serbia.
@LPerezDancer
@LPerezDancer 2 жыл бұрын
You seem to be defending the actions of Milosevic. Do you also defend the actions of Putin now?
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there, Thanks for the comment, I think the important part that Jan tries to bring is that the conflict has to be looked from a few perspectives and not a narrative of bad guy or good guy. Jan shares this in his recent publication: transnational.live/2022/02/24/jan-oberg-ukraine-what-should-have-been-done-from-dangerous-militarist-thinking-towards-conflict-resolution-and-peace To understand the conflict it is important o see the interest and influence of all the parties involved. Justas from DNS College
@LPerezDancer
@LPerezDancer 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 so, invading a sovereign nation and killing innocent civilians because you feel you aren't being treated the way you want to be treated is ok with you guys? You must be one of Putin's oligarchs
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474
@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 2 жыл бұрын
@@LPerezDancer That's not what we are saying. 1. We fully condemn the invasion. There is no reason that legitimizes a war or invasion. 2. we encourage you to look beyond the one narrative scenario that is mostly portrayed in the western media.
@LPerezDancer
@LPerezDancer 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 I do not subscribe to brainwashing news channels for my information. I understand that Milosevic was trying to keep Yugoslavia unified, but the days of Tito were long gone. The ethnic groups which made up Yugoslavia were not able to live together any longer and Milosevic tried to force them to do so using military action. The means do not justify the end. The same with Putin. He is paranoid about the former Soviet states joining NATO, but that does not justify sending the military into Ukraine.
@meeeee8745
@meeeee8745 Жыл бұрын
@@dnsthenecessaryteachertrai9474 Dear DNS, this is a very biased cover of the events. He is purely labeling Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo as just Nazi collaborators because of organizations within them who were not against Nazi Germany. He is completely disregarding the fact that they were the minority in comparison to communists in all these 3 countries and that Serbia had such groups as well. He is trying to make it look like there was place for Referendums that the West ignored while he never mentions the military rule Milosevic had in the 90's and the countless peace negotiations the West tried with him as people where dying. This whole video is an utter insult to the victims in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo and does not serve the Serbian victims anywhere by being filled with lies. Please don't stand on the graves of the victims like this!
@massimoboccanera5744
@massimoboccanera5744 3 ай бұрын
Why is Europe a vassal of Uncle Sam?
@darsenhasani5220
@darsenhasani5220 2 жыл бұрын
hi is remembering his chaildwodd in the f... Yugoslavia ... wtf
@khunmikeon858
@khunmikeon858 9 ай бұрын
What’s wrong with that. Trust me, it wasn’t that long ago! I’m 65, Irish. In the early 1990s people had mobile phones, no internet, no social media. All we had was the 6 o’clock TV news. I believed all the “western” , ergo American, lies. Not any more. This guy speaks the truth.
@TheJerico246
@TheJerico246 9 ай бұрын
I'm curious why what happen with Croats ans Bosniaks isn't considered genocide but a massacre where you draw the line between genocide and massacre?
@gorantomic7150
@gorantomic7150 9 ай бұрын
Cos it's a propaganda,blame the victim.West is always doing that to justify its crimes.
@joejohnson6327
@joejohnson6327 9 ай бұрын
He's a Serbophile, he thinks Serbs are incapable of committing genocides.
@ЈулијанаБошковић
@ЈулијанаБошковић 5 ай бұрын
U Srebrenici su žene, deca i stariji ljudi izmešteni iz Srebrenice. U Srebrenici je čisto vojno groblje. To su vojnici a ne nevine žrtve. ikzbin.info/www/bejne/iIbYmYZ9o7GprJosi=9rqK6zVaHHq1jFsu
@ЈулијанаБошковић
@ЈулијанаБошковић 5 ай бұрын
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@ЈулијанаБошковић
@ЈулијанаБошковић 5 ай бұрын
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@99muamer99
@99muamer99 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, it was a genocide.
@Marjan986
@Marjan986 9 ай бұрын
Don't talk nonsense, what a genocide. If there was a genocide, you wouldn't be writing nonsense now, you wouldn't even exist. Enough with that genocide bull*hit.
@SRB.4S
@SRB.4S 9 ай бұрын
Of course is NOT !
@99muamer99
@99muamer99 9 ай бұрын
​@@SRB.4S Yes, it was there were two court rulings first the European Court for Human Rights ruled it was genocide. The second ICC court in Hague ruled it a Genocide plus there were several rulings in Bosnia as well.
@Marjan986
@Marjan986 9 ай бұрын
@@99muamer99 Those European courts are one of a series of instruments of the Western hegemon, a court that makes judgments that are in the interest of the West and its allies, the goal is mostly always the same, which is to justify their military pretensions and interventions. Accordingly, such courts are not competent to make judgments, and most countries do not even recognize those courts.
@SRB.4S
@SRB.4S 9 ай бұрын
@@99muamer99 Then you didn't understand anything, nor did you watch this whole video, what the man said, so that you could understand the essence. As the man said, who is a doctor of science and is very well acquainted with the situation in the West, since he is from the West and with the situation in Yugoslavia, because he lived in Yugoslavia for years and was also in Yugoslavia during the war. In the case of Srebrenica, Srebrenica was an alleged UN protected zone that was supposed to be disarmed, but that did not happen. Muslims led by Naser Orić and his team ransacked and killed Serbian villages around Srebrenica, thousands of people, mostly civilians, were killed, property was destroyed and stolen... In the period from 1992 to 1995 until the fall of Srebrenica. Because the army of local Serbs did not have access to those villages in that period. What did the Muslims use to blackmail and kill Serbs, steal their property, even brag about stealing food?! So what happened in 1995 is a crime, of course not even close to genocide. But in a way it is revenge! Genocide is precisely the crimes of the Muslim army in those Serbian villages, because I personally was there and saw monuments with thousands of names of the dead killed and all of them were civilians, women, children, old people... In the case of Srebrenica, the local Serbian army separated the women and children and sent them on buses to safety... Many were liquidated, especially those who were roaming around Serbian villages, there were certainly innocent people... Also the number of over 8,000 people is completely false! But they were not women and they were not children, old people, men already of military age, were liquidated. Which is also a crime! But no genocide?! There is also a video of the Muslim army, the commanders of the same, who slaughtered and killed Serbian villages in the vicinity of Srebernica, are they even proud of it?! They also recorded a song?! And they say, quoting, "we will slaughter all Serbs like dogs"?! Footage from Srebernica in 1994! Also what is genocide?! The definition of genocide is when a people wants to be exterminated from a country and from a wider area, destroys a people in its entirety... Not a single condition from the definition of genocide, the case in Srebenica, the crime in Srebernica does not meet, to be treated as genocide. If the Serbian forces wanted to destroy the Muslims in Bosnia, they neither had the intention nor was it possible in small Srebrenica?! Also, the Serbian forces transported Muslim women, children and the elderly to safety... Why would the Serbs do that if they wanted to destroy the entire Muslim nation in genocide?! So the theory about genocide in Srebenica is ridiculous! Much closer to genocide is what Naser Orić and the Muslim forces did in the surrounding Serbian villages, they killed several thousand civilians, women, children and the elderly! What the court in The Hague or some court in Europe or the Muslim court in Bosnia ruled. With those judgments, they can literally wipe their own ass. Because it is obviously a political decision. The Court in The Hague is governed by decree by the US and the UK. And they decide who will be judged and how it will be judged, of course in favor of the globalist concept of the US, that they create things, and the outcome, and how they will help their servants in the war, which are Muslims, Albanians and Croats. What the gentleman in the video concluded indirectly! In this case, the Muslims were like the Kosovo Albanians and the Croats... Supported as a supporter of the US and NATO. And they were cannon fodder, i.e. US and NATO forces on the ground, SAS units carried out, trained and led field operations of joint Muslim Croatian forces against the local Serbian army. While NATO bombarded Serbian targets from the air, on the ground. The NATO operations were called "Operation Deny Flight" and "deliberate force". These are all joint operations of the US and NATO with proxies on the ground, the Muslim army, the Croatian army from Bosnia and Croatia, against a small army of local Serbs... And now you wait that in the court, which is under the direct control of the US and the UK and NATO. America's allies Muslims, Albanians and Croats should be condemned?! Then you really have an IQ problem. So it's very simple! Also what the author of the video clip himself said, Muslims, Croats and Albanians were the main supporters of every occupier, including Hitler as the Ustasha, Croats and Muslims, Muslims and Albanians as part of the SS unit, Nazi Germany. So the US knew who to support, those who have a servile mentality, in order to achieve their goals. More precisely, today Bosnia is a colony of the US, just like Kosovo. In addition to all that, the media machinery that is under the control of the US, both then and today, in In America and in EU and NATO countries, she worked on demonizing Serbs and supporting Muslims, Albanians and Croats... Ustashas, Muslims and Croats committed real genocide against Serbs in the independent state of Croatia. In more than 30 concentration camps, they killed Serbs in a cruel and sadistic way, took out their intestines, eyes, killed them with knives, took out the child from the mother's womb, burned them and salted their wounds, cut off their ears... Gidon Greif himself said that Auschwitz was a children's playground for Jasenovac?! So much for the real genocide where at least 350,000 Serbs were brutally murdered. Were Croats and Muslims on trial for real genocide?! NOT ! Were they convicted of genocide? NO! Do Croats and Muslims accept this true and real genocide?! NOT ! They make fun of that genocide and Serbian victims! Are the Serbs and Serbia asking, today, that the croats or the Muslims be condemned for this, in court, true and real genocide! NOT ! And the West and their Muslim courts and proxies are asking the Serbs to recognize their politically invented "genocide" that does not even meet the basic definition of genocide, let alone the difference in the number of victims, with the real genocide in Jasenovac, Pag, Gadisca , Jastrebarsko in relation to the fabricated genocide in Srebrenica ... Jastrebarsko was a camp for young Serbian children?! Even Nazi Germany didn't have that! So much for that! The Croatian president, Ustaša Milanović, was candid about a year ago in response to a question about Srebernica, that what happened in Srebernica cannot, and must not, be compared to Jasenovce. In the sense that you cannot compare the real genocide in Jasenovac with the fake one from Srebrenica! Genocide expert Gideon Greif said that if Srebrenica is genocide, then we have to come up with a new word for real genocide! During WW2, Serbs were on the list in Yugoslavia, precisely because of that genocide by Muslims and Croats in the Croat Fascist Croatia, Hitler's puppet. When everything was added up in Yugoslavia at the end, the number of victims in WW2, the Serbs had more victims than all the nations put together in the former Yugoslavia.And from the majority in Bosnia, they became a minority after the war, and that's how it is now! After the fictional so-called "genocide" in Srebrenica, there are more Muslims than Serbs in Bosnia, both before and after the war?! Enough for the smart!
@nicomirinda
@nicomirinda 2 жыл бұрын
What NATO did was totally wrong. Now, claiming that Russia is not a threat (@26:20), when you see what's going on with civilians in Ukraine and what they did as well in Syria sounds a bit of fantasy too.
@ctcole77
@ctcole77 2 жыл бұрын
What about Bucha you lying Russian fascist troll?
@lifeasadreamrecords4479
@lifeasadreamrecords4479 9 ай бұрын
You misses the wjile point.the west lies about everything
@Marjan986
@Marjan986 9 ай бұрын
Russia did not organize color revolutions either in Syria or Ukraine. It is known who is an expert in that field. Therefore, do not write nonsense when you do not know the events that preceded the invasion scenario. In both cases, colorful revolutions from the kitchen of the West led to civil wars, and then to the intervention of Russia at the invitation of one of the warring parties. The reason for everything was the expansion of NA*TO as well as the war for resources. Educate yourself.
@NikitOS-vv4ks
@NikitOS-vv4ks 9 ай бұрын
​@@Marjan986 Russia's *meddling* in Ukraine's 2004 elections was the reason for Orange revolution. Euromaidan was caused by *pressure* put on Yanukovich right before he was going to sign an agreement with the EU. Yanukovich fled from his own people, and Zelensky remained in Kyiv despite the city being attacked by the Russians. Truly "The wicked flee when no man pursueth; But the righteous are bold as a lion." And let's not forget who sent the little green men to *annex* Crimea and pretended they weren't Russian soldiers. Also let's consider the fact that the man *never tried to negotiate* with Turchynov (Acting President of Ukraine on 23 February 2014 - 7 June 2014) before sending troops. Instead, he created, supported (both financially and by sending people like *Igor Girkin,* who's a former FSB officer) and controlled *radical DPR and LPR separatists* (or do you really believe they could withstand 8 years of fighting Ukraine's military on their own?) which turned out to be a great way of *pushing* Ukraine to sign Minsk agreements on unreasonable terms. But it didn't end up well, did it? It ended up with an *unprovoked invasion* started on 24 Feb 2022. There's *no justification* for killing hundreds of thousands of people, displacing millions, and making many more lives worse. And here we are, "scared of NATO". And yet, somehow new NATO ally, Finland, goes uninvaded.
@aldix1646
@aldix1646 9 ай бұрын
You are so well informed that you know the REAL experts. The ones that organized The bombing of many palaces in Moscow, than usino it as an excuse for erasing the entire Grozny! They are the same experts that want war on Balkans. In 10 years even Japan will join NATO. You can still go on and Dream for a Yougoslavia 2.0. 😅😅😅
@masterblaster848
@masterblaster848 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@AlOfNorway
@AlOfNorway 7 ай бұрын
Mr. Oberg, don’t forget that NATO and US saved civilian Bosnians, Croats, and Albanian from Serbian imperialism. Sure it was done to prevent Serbian/Russian dominance, but in the end of the day, they wanted to occupy and control all the land and people-and thank god they didn’t win. Why did Serbia attack them all after the breakup of Yugoslavia? Why did Yugoslavia break up to begin with? The answer is Serbian aggression and self-entitlement-something no Serb today even wishes to acknowledge. In fact, their government denies historical facts to change public opinion about them, and youth believe them as they don’t know what actually transpired. With the rise of fake news, it can easily fall into the category of US imperialism, but in the end of the day, people were saved.
@ЈулијанаБошковић
@ЈулијанаБошковић 5 ай бұрын
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@ЈулијанаБошковић
@ЈулијанаБошковић 5 ай бұрын
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@ЈулијанаБошковић
@ЈулијанаБошковић 5 ай бұрын
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@aldix1646
@aldix1646 9 ай бұрын
Just some nostalgy from comunist Yougoslavia. What you are saying is too much far away from the reality. Why don't you go and live in Belgrade nowdays, or try to live as a muslim? Serbs need to emancipate first and then try to understand that they can live with their neighbores, even in PEACE.
@miraladak2314
@miraladak2314 9 ай бұрын
With honourable exceptions, I wouldn't describe Serbia's neighbours as paragons of peace and tolerance either
@mirjanamilosavljevic4261
@mirjanamilosavljevic4261 9 ай бұрын
Well,well, they are trying to,,emancipate “ us in many ways…..,,pride march “ for example,don’t want to be descriptive
@tongobong1
@tongobong1 8 ай бұрын
I agree. He just repeated the Serbian propaganda about the break up of Yugoslavia. The truth is quite different.
@miraladak2314
@miraladak2314 8 ай бұрын
@@tongobong1 not that the Serbs are saints, but why is something that challenges the official narrative necessarily propaganda? Extremists and thugs on all sides in the Balkan conflicts played their part in destroying the country that was built on progressive principles and superior to all the ensuing new states riven by corruption, primitive nationalism,bigotry and intolerance (with the exception of Slovenia, the only civilised among former Yugoslav republics)
@aurelije
@aurelije 8 ай бұрын
That's not true. Serbia still has a formidable Muslim population. Yes there are idiots there but even majority of those are imported from Croatia and Bosnia. They are even saying that Serbs from Serbia are not enough Serbs that Belgrade is the least Serb city and have even coined pejorative name "drugosrbijanci" for normal people in Serbia. I as half Bošnjak (Herzegovina inside) and Serb (from Serbia) that lived in 2 places in Serbia (Belgrad feom 1991), married for girl from Banat can testify that. Never had any problem, always declared myself as a Yugoslav, being proud to my grandfathers both Hamid partisan and Radiša who was POW for 4 years in Germany (because Serbs were not released home after being captured 1941).
@stankos1637
@stankos1637 9 ай бұрын
Yugoslavia make big mistake not to joining NATO long time ago like Greece did and is safe . Following ruZZia with can’t over next to nothing bad idea.
@karolinakuc4783
@karolinakuc4783 5 ай бұрын
Then why NATO defended Albanian terrorists when in 2008 they wanted to take a part of Macedonian land? Why EU started quta of migrants from Africa (mostly muslims)?
@williamcavanagh8982
@williamcavanagh8982 10 күн бұрын
11,000 views over 3 years won't make you a star pal...
@williamcavanagh8982
@williamcavanagh8982 10 күн бұрын
More BS from someone trying to grandstand... NATO did not start this war Serbia did ... Nato stopped it.
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