The Barons Club State Of The Game Podcast - With Mukluk And Guild MM!

[@DemethVLK]

I'll die on this hill but IBS WAS PRETTY GOOD BEFORE CHAMPIONS !! Replayable content Nice maps A lot of rewards Varied instanced PVE content A lot of diverse ambiance More grind, I might be in the minority but it makes me play more I'm hopeful for EOD, the game is going in a good direction

[@beneteus3833]

i totally agree the maps were some of hte better living world once, and the other systems they integrated are good and have even more potential with strikes - even in champions the systems are good, just the story was squandered and DRMs got to a point where they got to repetetive for me. But 10 man Fights of story bosses - great Replayable Story Dungeon type Content - good, i would have just liked a bit more "normal" instanced in between. Instanced World Bosses that you can do when ever with a group / guild - POGCHAMP Story in champions - felt like they skiped a Destroyer Saga and suddenly had to get in Primordus

[@Nyarlathothep]

I just feel like maybe IBS isn't the best acronym. It might be because it's also the acronym for Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

[@dommv3293]

I definitely will simp the icebrood saga and say that it has given me more gameplay hours than seasons 3, 4 combined just because of the mere replayability! Great podcast!

[@kylevanderwolf4446]

My thing is. Maybe it’s better in the long run that they’re wrapping up dragon stuff. When for one season Palawa Joko is a more interesting antagonist than all of the dragons combined. Maybe they want to get back to the sort of….world issues instead of cosmic level ones

[@MR_Guamo]

Same. The Charr civil war in IBS is actually my favorite part of the saga. I like tangible conflict that actually has consequences instead of wipe everything out of existence

[@jelenag6112]

imo IBS was pretty great until champions. We had map variety with Grothmar, Bjora and DWC. Bjora had some amazing map aesthetics and design between meta and strange events that would pop up on players randomly adding to the spooky northern atmosphere It’s obviously everything got tossed once expack was for certain, hyped for it but hoping it’s good for what they did to post-champions IBS

[@Afterhours.101]

The last section about railroaded mmos and such is some of the best conversation ive heard in a long time. Teapot you get it bro. Well done i enjoyed this

[@Scyz0n]

Saw it live, here's a comment! Loved seeing the dynamic between you three. Great podcast!

[@DeltaGW2]

"I leaked X discord" is a running gag at this point

[@KotMatroskin]

GW2 has got it right: MMO is there to play with as many friends as you have, from 0 to 1 to 2 to 10, and then to show off the STUFF you got, and check out stuff other people have. :D Loving how DRM scales from 1 to 5, honestly wish more content was this way! I like the state of the game and recognize value in harder content for people who have time/desire to focus on it. I think having tons of content for everyone and options for getting things, looots of things, is a good place for a game to be in. Atm am doing DRM achievements with my friend, and how they scale to 2 people in challenge modes is very cool, very enjoable.

[@fai591]

Teapot said, "check my resume bro. I am the best."

[@KotMatroskin]

Guiid hall decoration won't replace housing for most people I feel, because there's lack of ownership. Most players in guild won't have decor permissions, and the hall is huge, so that feel of creating yoour perfect coorner - most players don't have the opportunity. I get that as guild owner you might be very content, but it is not feasible to give 500 peoople permission to decorate and have them step on each other toes. Housing can bring: a) multiple properties b) your own thing to decorate/feel like you own the style/what is in it/build it up c) tons of replayability of content to get those items (if they make a lot account bound and something you have to earn)

[@TheOlian04]

2:34:26 YES! Do that! Reddits needs a more positive and diverse majority. Let's end the circle-jerking!

[@bort3486]

furnishing in ESO is huge i cant see why personal housing ACROSS TYRIA (like holiday homes in certain places) etc to collect would be amazing and we already have scribes it would add so much to the game

[@asum7786]

As much as people speculate what the next big feature after gliding and mounts will be for EoD, imo by far the best thing for the game would be if it just came with a big content feature pack of Alliances, Fractals, Raids, Guild Missions, PvP Maps/Tournaments and replayable group/CM Story missions - instead of just keeping up/continuing the feature and currency bloat of the game, having a million convoluted things all shallow as a puddle. I don't even want to imagine how much of a nightmare all these different disconnected systems and currencies and content avenues must be for new players who weren't around for the introduction of each of them piecemeal. GW2 doesn't need more features, it needs a vision/direction, a merging of all this crap into clear defined content avenues with intuitive reward structures and goals to work towards, and it's good to go. A clear defined endgame and a massive content drop is all it needs as selling point imo - much more so than you can now fish or have a house, but sorry, all the actual gameplay with Dungeons, Fractals, Raids, WvW, Strikes, PvP, Guild Missions, DRM's and on and on are still dead, enjoy autoattacking through this story, buy premium fishing rods and house decorations on the gemstore and then quit, thanks.

[@fai591]

Bruh this feels right

[@kesamek8537]

MM needs some mic placement and eq assistance, too dull/cloudy. Spend some of that gold daddy. Great stream and excellent conversation in every other respect. Love it.

[@tammylong6052]

@muk how the tots can you not remember the cup's name from beauty and the beast when your cat is named the same!

[@MuklukYoutube]

I actually was like "wasn't his name chip? no thats my cat im remembering wrong" internally lol

[@matyourin]

@1:32:00 Best WvW ever done was in Dark Age of Camelot.

[@kokonutter101]

1:24:10 Sure tpot,..still waiting for alliances, any week now..

[@lostsanityreturned]

Feature for the steam release... A LFG that isn't from the early 2000's

[@johngaver1104]

I wish there was a “View All” tab in the LFG window

[@M0ssFr0g]

Teapot: " If you look at the end of living world season 2... it happened in January, and the expansion came out in OCTOBER... Yeeeeuuuuuhh... *that's certainly not going to happen this time*" Teapot, you did this. You jinxed us with the Bad Juju^tm. Another 9-10 month drought, and it was all your fault.

[@1Diddums]

1:44:30 All banter considered; I'd expect something like this if they're brave enough to add a new playable race. With the amount of work that would be needed to allow a new race to experience the *existing* story content; I wouldn't be surprised if they locked it to Cantha onward. Which is partly why I don't expect a new playable race in GW2. One path is too much work and the other is bad PR (because they're limited accessibility).

[@FreeDoM_nl]

Algorithm meme. But also good discussion!

[@arturogutierrez7463]

Two videos in two days?!? Awesome!!!

[@lostsanityreturned]

Hot take, the dragon storyline issues aren't inherent to the dragons... Just moving away from the dragons won't solve ANY of the chosen one issues you have identified. I don't think many people are saying "Don't finish off the dragon storyline", but people want them to end it right.

[@windingtwilight]

Bring this back for soto

[@jeromeboyce9897]

gliders- mounts- companions/ home customization?

[@LCAyoutube]

❌ listen to the podcast ✔ hear just when teapot says he's a mantis

[@mikepike7139]

I still wish Anet hadnt catered to people complaining about not being protagonisty enough in GW1 and not done the dumb "Pact Commander" thing and also packed the split Personal Story stuff into one coherent bit. Woulda helped GW2s core story and been better ground for stuff to come imo :d

[@jessedaly7847]

Actual mounted combat masteries

[@DemethVLK]

8:08 This podcast can't be as doom and gloom as INKS and BRAZIL lmao. The previous teatime was painful to listen to when you wanna enjoy the game

[@kylevanderwolf4446]

I ignore anything invoking Brazil for years because his entire base is built around him acting like a petulant hater, and has been since HoT. He’s just negative about everything and gets off on people being negative with him :/

[@DemethVLK]

@@kylevanderwolf4446 I can't believe there is an audience for that but you're right. I might be in an echo chamber but at least I'm not bathing in toxicity and enjoying my time With the game

[@kahnjugaming]

It's very hard to take someone who believes that condition builds should be bursty seriously. NEVER SHOULD THAT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN (Only in specific circumstances: Confusion and Burning can be allowed to be bursty). It's plain LOGIC.

[@GuttedAU]

I found GW2's best story telling was at the lower levels. I think the story outgrew their ability to tell it well before the original launch. We should have remained grunts on the ground not world shaping chosen ones.

[@BK2maru1]

Wait... Muk is a Baron too? Damn gotta get on that "playing for 3 years, not missing a day" train

[@beneteus3833]

he is not one of hte big barons but he is in the trading community - not sure if he is in Guild MMs guild but he talked about that guild

[@MuklukYoutube]

I don't consider myself one no. I've done two trades in overflow so far (getting a lucky big loot, liquidating it to use for many smaller giveaways) but I do recommend people to "overflow" often if they ask me where to go to sell big items when they cant afford the AH posting fee.

[@jbrake-kp5gj]

hey TeaPot in one of your recent streams you where talking about owning alts being the gold farm can you make a video on everything you do to your alt acct to get them gold ready

[@jessedaly7847]

Or they could add double jumping and other acrobatic type specializations.

[@KokkeOP]

I honestly think Anet has being doing exactly what the player base wanted. Up until pre-IBS. We all know IBS was butchered into what it is now. The Scorcher saga (Primordius) and all that content canceled and all. So new tengu/koda/icebrood races? I'm sure will be an option. The models are there already and their starting point are right up there in core Tyria. So all they need is a new tutorial starting. A convenient new starting more up to date with the new living world and matchedd for new payers to jump in and not feel so delayed or left behind of the actual story. Specially with Steam partnership. Game will flood for many months like never before.

[@athchoumgaming4253]

Everytime that guy guild mm say something the look of teapot and mukluk goes : "what the fuck is he talking about"

[@ChelseyBunny]

Going to steam... choo chooo kaineng server gonna go full again and were going back to T1 boyz! WARMACHINES!

[@kylevanderwolf4446]

Popped back on. Just to say also, gw2 isn’t old by mmorpg standards. No game can be “old” while WoW is still populated because of how old WoW is. Gw2 is still up there in age with ffxiv(which they’ve said they have several years of stuff planned for). So I’m not sure age is catching up at all. Games are more profitable with longevity now and launches and sequels and reboots are too costly for companies to bother producing.

[@Evo__]

Bocc the legend

[@J0kuc]

1:07:50 I don't agree that elite specs should be more like "enhancements" rather than giving complete new mechanics. That's like the hype behind them and what people are excited for.

[@georgefron7163]

No Brazil. Best podcasts

[@williamdegrey]

🤣

[@stefanoandrianopoulos9071]

invuln literally is resistance for power.... it has existed since launch

[@CERWINVEGAredRING]

Wow 3 hour bait for a raid shadow legends advert! I feel violated

[@ipokiller2g940]

Loving the podcast

[@ViviLouF]

Accurate Thumbnail 25k KZbin Followers soon btw WICKED tpotWICKEDga FurnaceReturned

[@amayatora22]

I wonder how it would effect Firebrand if they made it so that you could only have one tome at a time unless you took a specific trait that made it so that you could have two. Would it completely gut Firebrand? Would it still be busted if it didn't have access to all of its tomes? They could put the trait a place where it wouldn't be convenient for cFB's to bring two tomes so that you would have to trade some damage to bring the heal tome or the reflect/aegis/stab tome. Thinking of WvW you could either bring two tomes or you could bring the tome that gives you more charges in your tome.

[@Sno4opy]

I really like this idea. It could be something like daredevil where your final trait decides what tome you bring. Then they could buff the page count, or make it resource-based kind of like holosmith or revenant. Another option would be to spread the tome traits between tiers, so you have a choice to bring a tome or power-up the remaining ones

[@mormegil231]

I am amazed how many people forget that they said that season 5 would come right after and not an expansion before that awful IBS showcase.

[@rarausa405]

I'd be interested to know what you think about the idea of profession identity; that is how classes should feel distinct from each other. As time has gone on, it seems Anet is trying to make more classes be able to fill roles in raids/team content, they continue to add qualities to the different classes that were previously the 'purview' of a certain class. (example would be Mesmer was the 'portal specialist', but now there's 2 other classes that have some kind of portal mechanic) I realize that Anet, through the lack of the formal trinity, has always said any class can always to anything, though they recognize that some classes are better at it. But, those lines seem more blurred as time goes on, if they continue this direction in balancing classes.

[@DemethVLK]

Players themselves need to promote things like june community month or Hardstuck. I never heard of both until Tpot spoke about it during a stream. Everyone has a part to play

[@june-ls1hw]

Anyone got a tl;dr of their thoughts?

[@numnutzac]

They should have never....ever...allowed people to buy volcanic skins for 1g and some tokens. This took out the mid tier gear grind.

[@johannesritter2944]

I've been playing for 700 hours and have not even activated my home instance .. I also don't need housing anet should focus more on group-oriented PvE contet with increasing difficulty

[@TimeWaveOfficial]

Guild MM = Guild Market Makers?

[@Ulairon]

GW2 subreddit discord is a cesspool

[@Lmfaocj]

I have to say this after hearing the balance portion of this. Please, Anet, remove trapper runes. Stealth of trap is so fucking annoying to play against!

[@StoganNZ]

call it a day and add fishing he says, well called lmao

[@justinpeace6841]

Appreciate the gw2 talk. Always so dry lately

[@asgarzigel]

I disagree on your take on the simplification / railroading of games. I think it's not so much a "this is what gamers want" as it is a diversification of the people that play games. If you want a hit game nowadays, you basically have to appeal to as many people as possible. Gamers just getting older is also a thing that plays a role I think. A kid does have the time to just no-life a game forever and get really into it, an adult usually has a job, probably a family and really doesn't have much time for games, so a streamlined experience does make more sense. Add to that the way that modern game hype-cycles and FOMO work and there is basically always a new game coming out everyone is talking about and it's no wonder people don't really flock to games that require a ton of time investment. Oh and of course devs have figured out that grindy Skinnerbox design is a waaay easier way to manipulate people into spending more time (and money) with your game instead of actually designing and maintaining a deep and interesting game long term. In the end, it's the same issue as with raids in GW2, the target audience exists, but it is too small to justify the expenses in the minds of the people in charge.

[@shawtay]

Teapot, bigbrain. You need a job at ANET dude

[@Magmadu100]

People being unhappy with content in FF14 is a bit misleading, especially since literally next week they'll have a worldwide fanfest to reveal the full trailer for this year's expansion and the second job the it will add, no one "went back to watching anime" lol ...And all that not to mention the HILARIOUSLY outdated notions about other MMOs.

[@XxLeafCatxX]

why cant we have guild halls AND player housing? Swtor does this with guilds having their own giant space ship as a guild hall and you can have houses on many different worlds.

[@invadecanadanow]

Teapotman is right, the gameplay is the best part of the game. One issue though is that for new players, core gameplay is just "good" while elite specs makes it great. Why not go nuts? Let new players train hot/pof elite specs! Make all blue-yellow gear stat selectable! Halve the cd of racials until lvl 80! Shake up core a bit!

[@Strzia]

Tengu

[@KokkeOP]

Every time, Mighty Teapot speaks: "genius xD" Mukluk: "awesome. Good point right there" Guild MM: "hmright. Kay. next question" (don't kill me. It's a joke)

[@bmscarecrow.]

Even though I love firebrand the tombs should have never been virtues unless they toned them down to maybe 3 skills ea and even then that would be probably too strong. The tombs needed to be something like kits where you actually need to give something up to have access to 5 new skills.

[@Rinin.]

Guild MM needs a better mic. Dudes the richest plaayer in the game or whatever and yet he sounds like he's speaking to me through a closed door with a blanket over his head.

[@GingerMeTimbers10]

Teapot carrying the entire interview the entire time.

[@Tom_makes]

First

[@mortammer]

remember when guild wars was about the warring guilds of man, not dragons.

[@petra_g]

It never was, even in the first game the “Guild Wars” happend before the story you get to play.

[@Evlakk]

i dont think the primary hub for gw2 should be called hardstuck. should have a nice universal name. when i hear hardstuck, just sounds like a guild, doesn't make me think it's the united gw2 nations. u gotta think about it from noobs and casual's perspectives. called it united tyria or some shit

[@xecor4450]

3hrs of my life. Gone.

[@JorikPar]

Algorithm meme.

[@jessedaly7847]

Player housing sounds super boring

[@BrendanCS]

Half the reason GW doesn't have a cohesive community is because anet tries to artificially control and police all of the obvious places to go for community, the forums, reddit, etc.

[@shifureisaikyou2055]

player housing is not so good. both gliding n mounts added things to gamemplay player housing sure there will be whales, but it is essentially an Opt-in thing? ppl who love the sims would probably be all over it but why spend money to stay still and afk the whole dayoccasionally move some furniture around and swipe that credit card? There will be nothing to do it wont last long after an initial craze it will not keep money flowing much an eleborate pet system like heroes in Gw1 with unique skinns(only ussuable in open world) is much better idea

[@chrissansour3434]

end of dragons was a fail. good luck covering a garbage dead game.