The Bat-Family Problem.

The Bat-Family Problem. - Which is more like my personal problem WITH them.
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[@Demigah]

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[@fadepengun7646]

Some time in the last 2-3 years, DC tried pushing Harley Quinn as a member of the Bat Family, acting like Jason wouldn't shoot her ass on sight.

[@altalia07]

No matter how reformed NEVER!!!🙅🏽‍♀️🙅🏽‍♀️🙅🏽‍♀️ Ever would they all let her work that close

[@gazem_3211]

Ok, I don't read the comics, could someone please give an explanation/context to this?

[@fadepengun7646]

@@gazem_3211 She's basically trying to redeem herself. The problem is the fact that she was Joker's sidekick and has committed way too many crimes to be easily redeemed.

[@gazem_3211]

@fadepengun7646 I heard about her redemption, but HOW TF did Batman invite the accomplice of his psycho archenemy who murdered his second adopted son as a member of the FREAKING BAT-FAMILY?!!

[@fadepengun7646]

@@gazem_3211 I'm not really sure, though if I had to guess, the dumbassery that eradiates from the DC and WB executives started affecting him.

[@legendaryrenegade]

With that many Bat-Family members Gotham has its own private Justice League

[@Chilli_The_Kid]

I was just thinking that 💀

[@Demigah]

The balls of common thugs to even walk on the street at night with that many of them on patrol

[@liberleo1384]

And yet Gotham is still trash lol 😂 Seriously with that many members how is Gotham still the worst DC city.

[@sylvesterphoenix007]

No lie you just asked a really good question where is the Punisher when Gotham needs him ​@@liberleo1384

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

@@liberleo1384Gotham must be demon possessed.

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

My biggest problem is that Batman never seems to have a stable relationship with his children. Batman Wayne Family Adventures is my favorite piece of Batman media so far, because Batman clearly tries his best to be a good dad. Also, we need an animated show of this family.

[@Demigah]

Man, I was just talking to a friend about this. I even stated that Alfred is the father that Jason, Richie and Tim wishes Bruce would be

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

@@DemigahDefinitely

[@FanGirl9463]

@@DemigahI like the little moments in some of the comics where Bruce is being a good dad, like staying home with a sick Jason, hugging and making up with dick.

[@antonhanna2423]

@@Demigah Common Alfred W. All cringe aside, I'm 110% sure that Alfred is the only person besides God himself making sure that Batman's kids won't try to murder Bruce in his sleep whenever he does something ignorant/stupid.🥲

[@jj_grabes]

It’s annoying, yeah. I miss media like Batman the Animated Series where Batman while not perfect was actually a GOOD surrogate parent. Heck, Gotham Knights gets prop from me for doing this. He even helped rehab Jason for his PTSD.

[@jovans5805]

The only bat-family member outside of that list that I even remember has a solid story is Cassandra Cain

[@Demigah]

True

[@altalia07]

Yess

[@siahflaco]

Azreal too

[@contingencyaccount5672]

How about batman beyond he be pretty cool

[@antispiral4552]

​@@contingencyaccount5672 terry is goated and we all know it, but we're focusing on the mainline batfam not batman beyond, I'd believe big homie demigah would love to talk about it ngl

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

Gotham has like 7 curses on it that will cause it to forever have crime.

[@Demigah]

Why is this so funny to me? 😂😂 Like, I can't tell if this is serious or not 😂

[@SiriusM13]

😂

[@xx_prjxn]

@@Demigah oh it is 😂

[@antonhanna2423]

@@Demigah He's not joking. Even the lowest ranked D-list Gotham villain can come back from the dead and cause absolute hell on earth. *Without* abusing the Lazarus Pits might I add.😅

[@comicfan1324]

Man, we don’t need Batman to save Gotham. We need an army of priests and Constantine for some extra support

[@The_Presbyterian]

People always forget about Alfred even though he is probably the most important member of the bat family

[@Demigah]

I agree. He’s the heart, Batman is the brain, Jason is the hands 😂

[@gieldecloet7987]

@@Demigah and richard is the ass

[@kevinestrada8269]

Terry McGinnis deserves a spot in the family for a variety of reasons: 1. He is one of the few bat children that is more than willing to fill in the role of Batman 2. He roasted the Joker so damn badly he almost broke him 3. He successfully stole the Bat suit to avenge his dead daddy 4. He gave old man Bruce a reason to live again 5. And he clapped the Joker once and for all Terry is HIM and I'm not gonna accept anything else.😤😤😤

[@marvel9496]

Terry a real one he deserves that spot on the bat family

[@Goku-fn3qd]

Out of the loop with dc in general (more of marvel fan) but isn’t bro from like The future?

[@marvel9496]

@@Goku-fn3qd yeah but in some comics he does have adventures with Bruce dick Tim and the rest but theirs just so many bat family members who are just there for the fun of it

[@teamlds5235]

Terry isn't just any member of the bat family he is THE BATMAN.

[@bulletxwound3559]

Honestly orphan (Cassandra Cain) is a really cool character. Both her parents are top assassins and she's one of if not the best hand to hand fighters in the bat family. Born into a family of assassins and raised to be one, only to go against her parents wishes and join the bat family.

[@darkarrow3683]

And her being trained from birth to read body language that’s dope

[@ScarletOutlaw]

Fun fact, The Signal only goes out to protect Gotham, during the day, that's why Batman mainly does nightime patrols

[@Demigah]

My point exactly. How tf is there still crime in gotham when any of 'em can just pop out and put mfs in Mercy Hospital at all times?

[@proster7920]

​@@Demigah fax

[@altalia07]

@@Demigahexactly

[@Antiprincipl3]

I like Batwing and Azrael though, Beyond is more of a future batman. Take that power rangers cosplay off The Signal and maybe I'll take him a little seriously. They are too much in one city and one team though, they should be redrafted.

[@TheSmashGuy-x4f]

Appearantly Barbatos, a dark god of some kind is the one responsible for the crimes in Gotham City I'm not joking when i said this, he cursed the city to be a hell hole

[@Alex-bz8lj]

Batman’s AGE makes no sense he realistically should be in his 50s but for some reason he’s always 35 despite his eldest son being 30

[@Demigah]

I know wtf. They need to clarify ages on an index page in comic books already

[@altalia07]

@@Demigahthat and a mini bible or somethin

[@Darth_Bateman]

Nah, so member Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? and how Jotaro is "17 years old" ?

[@imeanslaverywasveryprofita4626]

@@Darth_Batemanwhy are you taking things out of context, he’s like 40 in stone ocean and 17 in stardust crusaders, he actually ages bro, what I will say is that you can almost never tell how old he is with just a look

[@Lance.Gardenhire]

His son is 30? Damn, Batman should be pushing 60.

[@crownedshyness9656]

For the Bat-Family, less is more because I couldn’t care less about half of them.

[@Demigah]

Exactly! Glad I'm not alone in this

[@HeyMomonia]

We already have batman, nightwing, red hood, tim, damian, batgirl, catwoman that's already enough to tell many stories. We don't need to introduce new characters that no one cares about. Azreal's pretty cool too he can make some appearances. But that's already kinda pushing it.

[@jadaavant490]

Honestly Gotham as we have come to know it doesn't make sense with the over saturation of vigilantes. Story wise. I really like Duke Thomas and Stephanie Brown AS CHARACTERS, but as far as they fit into the plot? Womp womp. BUT BLUDHAVEN IS RIGHT THERE! If you need fresh bat-related characters (that you only use to pop up sometimes anyway), there is an entire SISTER CITY to Gotham with an entire criminal ecosystem that has been around FOR DECADES. And you're telling me Nightwing is handling that solo just fine, with enough time to randomly pop into Gotham as well? There are other locations DC!

[@rookblanco5302]

“Your named after his f*cking night light” 😂💀

[@baki484]

What about the one named after his plane?

[@tayshaunmoney4621]

​@@baki484 I mean batwing sounds better than the signal

[@shibernyan2009]

@@tayshaunmoney4621 Who tf is Batwing?!!!

[@tayshaunmoney4621]

@@shibernyan2009 Lucius Fox son

[@shibernyan2009]

@@tayshaunmoney4621 Dayum, they did him dirty💀

[@Darth_Bateman]

2:36 - Bro could have literally said Richard but chose not to for a reason.

[@paatagigolashvili9551]

that was on purpose lol

[@nestamanzi3067]

Give Red Hood and Nightwing more recognition, DC! If they don’t do it, I will riot!

[@blamcheese]

DC aint DC no more, DC might give them the Tim Drake treatment.

[@SWAHswah-tm7sn]

Right now Dick is taking over DC. He has one of the highest selling books, leader of the Titans while the JL is disbanded and from what I hear is in talks about getting a movie of some sort though apparently they can't seem to get it off the ground.

[@jxlennn]

they do get recognition yall just dont read comics. Nightwing is CARRYING DC's comics right now

[@nestamanzi3067]

@@jxlennn Are Nightwing and Red Hood getting recognition in other media outside the comics?

[@jxlennn]

@@nestamanzi3067 i mean they're both pretty much confirmed to be in the DCU, red hood has one of the best batman movies and nightwing is widely known as everyones favorite robin

[@wnuZeL]

I still don’t understand why Harley Quinn is involved, everyone seems to forget she actively sought out Joker & took pleasure in hurting people

[@Demigah]

She helped him kill children on multiple occasions, too

[@Imtoogoodforyall]

Stephanie got her power in kindergarten when Billy stole her crayons

[@Demigah]

😂😂😂

[@byronrush9802]

​@@Demigahthen she snitched on him after she beat his ass

[@Demigah]

@@byronrush9802she the type to tell the teacher that they forgot to give the class homework

[@byronrush9802]

@@Demigah and that's why she had to learn how to fight

[@skunkgucc]

😭😭

[@xx_prjxn]

I agree about the family being too big, and all honesty, the core members should literally be Bruce, Alfred, Barbara, The Robins, Catwoman and Cassandra Cain (Read her run as Batgirl, she's underrated and a badass) Oh and Batwoman cuz she's literally Bruce's cousin

[@aidenrodriguez4350]

Besides the Bat himself, The Bat Family should consist of Nightwing, Red Hood, Tim Drake, Oracle, Damian, Alferd, Cassandra Cain, and occasionally Catwoman. I’d say that’s more reasonable than what we got at the moment.

[@HighLordoftheBathroom]

Kate too. After reading Wayne Family Adventures, I can totally see her being a mentor to the kids and the cool aunt they hang out with when Bruce won't let them do something 😂.

[@aidenrodriguez4350]

@@HighLordoftheBathroom her too

[@Maskedmenace8267]

What about azreale and batwoman ya know the cousin of batman and the second batman

[@semapeker2426]

I accept everyone you mentioned except Catwoman and Harley Queen and every villains

[@Spyanter2000]

Terry too but he’s a weird case since he’s the future

[@blazetanuki_4567]

In my headcannon Catwoman fine ass is in the bat family and no one can change my mind

[@Demigah]

It's my headcannon, too

[@disgruntledfox]

I mean, they were supposed to get married that one time

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

​@@disgruntledfoxnever forget what they took from you

[@antonhanna2423]

Hey if Harley and Clayface of all people can get drafted into the Bat Family (no disrespect to either of them), Catwoman passes with flying colors.

[@disgruntledfox]

@@abiodunsulaiman2297 never

[@Shiesht514]

I agree Batman has a family so big Aside Cassandra Caine I barely can remember signal and it truly is a wonder how they have enough members for Batman to launch a fkn bat-thanksgiving dinner table and crime is still running free like edp.

[@tim_soup7099]

I'm all for that for except Cassandra Cain's case. She was written way before Damian was introduced (not counting that unnamed 80s version of him that got retconned out of existence) and is a great protégé for Barbara while she was stuck as Oracle. Character-wise she's even has a better version of Damian's arc too; someone who grew up to be the best living weapon (so much she never learned to talk, just analyze people via body movements) and who the Bat Family needed to teach restraint more than anything. She's not some self insert-ish Agent 47/Master Chief hybrid.

[@Darth_Bateman]

0:07 - *looks at Batmite* Who invited bro?!

[@Demigah]

Get that mf out my dimension

[@FiniteXbc]

​@@DemigahIt's even worse when the writers try to add Harley quinn into the bat family I'm like bro the amount of problems she's caused in Gotham

[@Darth_Bateman]

@@FiniteXbc Let's turn Poison Ivy next, because why not?

[@DemonicRemption]

@Darth_Bateman Wait, what...? *Looks at the time stamp again* Ayo WTF? Why is Bat-Mite there?

[@Darth_Bateman]

@@DemonicRemption THA'TS WHAT I'M SAYING!

[@drooby9044]

I feel like a lot of what it boils down to is creative bankruptcy. They have no idea how to end anything. They can't fathom the idea of just finally closing the book on any of them cause they think they'd lose money, even tho they are actually losing money. There's no appeal anymore, and the only one who cares about any of them are the die-hard fans who can't imagine reading anything else

[@icesoul17z]

I agree. Bruce should be old and near retiring at this point. We have Tim, Jason, Cassandra, and Dick who all could take up the mantle. I'm a firm believer that each generation should have their own "hero" so to speak and let mantles be passed. After all, what's the point of having all the kid sidekicks that are supposed to grow and take up the mantle if it is never passed on? Let Bruce retire and have a happy life with the family he's created. It ain't gotta be perfect, but let the man be a decent dad and happy for once!

[@imeanslaverywasveryprofita4626]

@@icesoul17zexactly, this is why jojos is a goated series for me because characters will actually come and go

[@NiceSounds-s1b]

I do fw Cassandra tho she has a good backstory and her chemistry with Bruce is really good. And her character arc is well written. But Jason the goat and that’s on god

[@heybrothatsfunny]

Barbara Gordon has slept with or dated every member of the main Bat family (Dick, Jason, Bruce and Tim) in some continuity except Damien (thank God) making most of the Robins not just brothers but Eskimo brothers. So yeah, she was passed around more than basketball with the Harlem Globetrotters.

[@Demigah]

Even the first Blue Beetle, but that was long ago

[@FanGirl9463]

Damn she leading the league of thots in assists them some prime magic Johnson numbers

[@beepboop4833]

Big yuck

[@gieldecloet7987]

when did she do it with jason?

[@gieldecloet7987]

and tim except for arkham knight?

[@diegogiraldo4107]

Stephanie brown has been around for 32 years and she appears in detective comics 647 in case if anyone was asking she was around since August 1992 and you’re welcome to anyone who wanted to know about her

[@tayshoncampbell5900]

For nightwing, in recent comics, him and the titans are the current premiere heroes and nightwing is busy with blüdhaven too

[@isaiahjones7929]

Honestly half of DC's budget is towards making new Bat-family members at this point its a small army.

[@joshuamccready2734]

I'm glad people are talking about Cassandra Cade. If Terry McGinnis and Carrie Kelley count as Bat Family members they're also worth checking out.

[@dkachyobi-emelonye2107]

2:37 that's getting clipped 😭(no pause is crazy)

[@Demigah]

No diddy, bro, no diddy. Please 😭

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

@@DemigahWe all like Nightwing too.

[@KaoticKwan]

It’s like Batman just picks up any homeless kids off the street now

[@Demigah]

"You wanna be my Robin, kiddo?" As he smokes a cigarette

[@Beastimus_Prime]

Technically Stephanie was a Robin before Damian… well at least until she died

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

She was also batgirl for like 2 years before the N52 reboot

[@Rengokuo4o6]

Carrie Kelly was a Robin before Tim.

[@Beastimus_Prime]

@@Rengokuo4o6 Carrie Kelley as Robin was considered non canon to the main dc universe tho. Which is why she isn’t really mentioned as frequently as Dick, Jason, Tim or Damien.

[@agilmon1867]

2:48 Well, the reason you should care is....uh....um.....damn you got me there

[@Nervkeks]

I dont think the problem is the size of the bat-family. The problem is that they are not utelized as a team but instead most of them are just suporting batman characters.

[@aozorahaou2643]

I mean I recommend checking out Batman Beyond, Terry McGinnis was Miles Morales, before Miles Morales. He was a juvenile whos been to juvi a couple of times dealing with his parents being separated until his dad died, becoming Batman to put his fathers murderers to justice and ultimately became the Batman of Tomorrow. Guys literally also DCs Miguel O'Hara. And Terry operates VERY different from Bruce despite Bruce being a mentor Terrys basically what Bruce wanted Batman to be, yeah we have Dick as Batman before, but I recall Terrys the first time we saw someone else take the cowl in mainstream, plus guy could kick ass before and without the suit. Like Terry has his own TV Show and animated movie to check out.

[@evanneal1039]

More like... Bat Modern Family 😂

[@KaoticKwan]

What a knee slapper!😹

[@Demigah]

@@KaoticKwan I'm witnessing such white people behaviour here, and I love it 😂😂

[@kyng_spade]

​@@KaoticKwan even a Rib Tickler as some might say

[@disgruntledfox]

Some might even call it a heel clicker

[@evanneal1039]

@disgruntledfox a'ight that one made me laugh 🤣

[@tricky7153]

Why does there got to be so many people in the bat family I felt like they should keep it simple with the main characters in the bat family (bat girl red hood Tim drake night wing Damien Wayne Alfred obviously the goat) why do we gotta have harley in the bat family lmao that’s my take.

[@Demigah]

Having Harley in the bat family, then having more stories on her than any of the others should be a damn crime

[@Antiprincipl3]

Lucius Fox.

[@Rivər]

The jumpscare at "make like a duck and skidaddle" had me laughing for ages. Loved the vid and couldn't agree more.

[@Demigah]

I’m glad 😂 you seem to be the only one who liked it that much so far so props to you 🙏🏾

[@popgoesthewheasel3039]

Criminal that harley has more media than the other big two in the DC trinity tbh

[@deemations2229]

And is Gotham that bad that people would rather do crime than regular job to pay them even with 100% likehood of becoming crippled by the bat-family.

[@TheAntagonist006]

Azrael actually became Batman for Bruce post Bane blowing his back out over his knee, became a hyper violent vigilante Batman which caused crime to drop, even Bruce himself admits this. Azrael also becomes the nightmare Bane saw in his origin story beating Bane to an inch of his life in front of the GCPD, he then proceeded to kill a guy due to his mental conditioning by the order of Saint Dumas, which forced Bruce, Tim Drake, and Mr Buns himself get involved, in doing so he at one point nearly killed Dick Grayson. Now I gotta clarify one thing, this all happened during the 90s with the Knightfall story arc, but before that there was the sword of Azreal which saw Bruce go to Switzerland to solve a murder of John Paul Valley Sr, this is where we meet Jr who Bruce takes in to break the mental conditioning he was put under. That his main plot that his character was known for, after Knightfall he sort of got the Jason Todd treatment, there was never really that much to adapt afterwards. Until Arkham City which popularised the second Azreal (because yeah, there are two spoiler alert the first one died) Michael Lane who was taken in by you guessed it the Order of Saint Dumas, and is given a fire brand new outfit and two new swords, the sword of sorrow, and the sword of repentance. Trust me when I say, this man folded Joker, Catwoman, Bane, etc during Knightfall and is responsible for Banes capture prior to the start of Batman No Mans land Arc, which also inspired Arkham City. Your honor my client has been hit by a string of hearsay arguments and I demand some respect be put on my man’s name. I rest my case

[@TheAntagonist006]

TL;DR: Azreal folds Prime Bane like a pretzel 🥨 he is Bat Family OG

[@Chilli_The_Kid]

I think Batman should have a maximum of five members of the bat family

[@Demigah]

I'd say 7. Batman, Red Hood, Nightwing, Batgirl, Alfred, Red Robin & Robin

[@Chilli_The_Kid]

@@Demigahyeah there the only ones that matter like who cares about signal? it seems kind of weird having Batman owning his own Batman hit squad

[@stevenbryant8160]

@@Chilli_The_Kidsignal low key cool character his we are the robin stuff are amazing

[@luceroflores7074]

Stephanie has been around since the 90s 😂

[@malachisanchez5846]

0:18 nah the gunshot before the next scene is crazy😂

[@Demigah]

You’re the only one who noticed that 😂😂😂

[@Invaded_chan]

The Bat-Family is like the Kardashians of DC comics 😂

[@Demigah]

Nooo, don’t say that 😂

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

Also, my personal favorite member of the Bat Family outside of Jason and Bruce is Cassandra Cain.

[@Demigah]

That's a good choice, but in my opinion, she's a part of the extended family I kinda don't care about

[@Tayo2742]

Cassandra Cane she’s lady Shiva’s daughter, and was trained to be the perfect assassin. I believe she can see peoples weak points in a fight. And Duke is actually cool, but they just don’t do much with him, He’s kinda just be there sometimes, and I agreed name is not that creative but it’s cool that he protects Gotham during the daytime.

[@dedrik1461]

Simple answer is care about Cass, you can't care about the rest as they currently are but they do have tons of potential, including Signal fr, mad slept on

[@wukongisas9564]

I gotta agree on this, now for Stephanie i don't mind her much because i lowkey kinda like her dynamics with the other members. But outside of her i don't care much for the others besides the main 7 (Bruce, Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian, Barbara and Batwoman). If we count else worlds though i *heavily* mess with Terry Mcginnis due to his arc and story with how he navigates being Batman in futuristic Gotham

[@N01Zephyr]

Batman Beyond gave us Terry its the shit. oh an Gah Damn

[@stormgodofchivalry3051]

Bro Terry is based af, he’s always welcome

[@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620]

The Signal is great grew up with him

[@primevalwarlock3808]

When they dropping the step bat

[@Chilli_The_Kid]

💀

[@AverageBotCommentOnYoutube]

The worst are the ones with powers (Gotham, Gotham Girl, Signal, and there may be more. I would remember them if a new hero/vigilante for Gotham weren't being made every week). Because most of Gotham's villains are just guys with gadgets, gangs, money, and knowledge. There are more villains who are just insane people than there are villains who have powers that only Superman, Wonder Woman, and any other member of the Justice League can defeat.

[@adrudds]

I even saw people trying to make HARLEY part of the ‘bat family’

[@marvelfuture2057]

And the worst part is that it happends

[@pri....]

Please no, I love her but no

[@bottleofgreed4415]

The signal and his arch nemesis, the crime

[@deadlockraven1849]

I know positivity doesn't pay the bills but every new video it's like "What's his problem this time?" 🤣 GodDAMN there really are a lot of members though.

[@Demigah]

Positivity do pay the bills. Did you see the views on my last GTA video? 😂😂 And I give props and respect to the things I do like/love in these videos, but everybody ignores that then puts labels on me :)

[@Lightning-vm5gp]

I feel you, bro. Every one wants to focus on the negative nowadays because its like alle we see. But no one ever trully appreciates the positives anymore.​@@Demigah

[@Yamobama]

2:37 can be taken out of context

[@Demigah]

Yes. Yes it can.

[@Zombieworm98]

I like the idea of Signal. He's Gotham's day time hero. Sure Batty can still show up during the day but he's not patrolling like he is at night, or at least not as well. Just change his name man

[@Chentis]

Hoestly i like the signals whole story and how he gets power from the sun.

[@Demigah]

Bruh 😂

[@Chentis]

@@Demigah ong tho

[@ManHamLym]

Every villain gets his own bat family member at this point 💀

[@NullManny]

The worst part is that red hood, nightwing, damian and even azrael have so much potential but warner bros are so dog water nowadays

[@Spyanter2000]

Batman Beyond has insane potential too but WB shoots down every amazing idea for it cause they hate money

[@Defeationist]

azazel is the only one they need simple he is excatly like batman

[@JoeUpchurch-j1i]

The fact that Red Hood is only playable in like 3 games minus the LEGO stuff and Harley Quinn is in 27 fucking games is outrageous.

[@harrambou9468]

Stop right there You said…. *27?!*

[@millernumber1]

Stephanie Brown is my personal favorite. Been around since 1992! I think the problem isn't that there's too many, it's that they don't have well written stories using them well. If they had strong stories, you'd be engaged with all of them. Also, you don't have to use all of them at the same time. Some can come in and out, like Azrael does.

[@THEINFINITIVERSESAGA]

2:37 WE GOT HIM 🤫📸

[@AstraFulminous]

Duke Thomas (Signal) matters the most alongside Terry (& Helena Wayne) because their trama is a direct result of someone knowing exactly what Batman went through behind the mask and appliying it to them just to screw with Batman himself by messing with people in thr same way. Joker knows Batman is Bruce Wayne and he went after Duke to prove a point. Amanda Waller knew The World needed another Batman and planned to create the exact same scenario that creates Batman in the first place to Terry. Phantasm decided she couldn't fo through with Waller's request .But some time after circumstances with Wayne Industry's and Bruce having stoppes being Batman led to exact what Waller wanted to occur if by shere happenstance. Helena meanwhile is Bruce's daughter who also experienced the same scenerio as the oringal Batman Similar to how Jason's entire life was actually secrectly set up by the Joker, from whay happend to his family, to him becoming Robin and even the Red Hood, unlike Tim or Richard each of their cicumstanxe is directly linked to what hapoened to Bruce and his role as Batman. So in a way they are his problem now.

[@AstraFulminous]

I'm being a little vague intentionally however. But for those characters yeah it's quite the domino effect

[@siralfred2446]

the "Timmayee💅" got me 😂

[@voodoohyena7400]

In Batman beyond defense he's in the future when Batman's too old to operate😂😂

[@kaykj207]

how is harley quinn in the batfamily?? she helped the joker with almost everything, they should never add her to the family keep her as a villain or apart of the gotham city sirens smh

[@gameoveror7970]

I can see why Catwoman left at the altar imagine being the step mom to like 10 teenagers some of which you have beef with

[@crazyman9765]

Hope joker still got his crowbar

[@ZarixBoi]

2:36 Yup, that’s going straight to an Demigah Out of Context Compilation

[@Demigah]

Without a doubt 😂

[@AshtonFrostDiamond]

As someone who knows most of the lore of the Bat family members, I'm tired of the writers bringing in new members that I actually like and proceed to not use their characters for the next decade!

[@MiddleWarrior3539]

Stephanie Brown has been around since the 90s, she was Robin and Batgirl for a time.

[@purson8]

Alright alright, so the other guys don't give a single shit except orphan and spoiler that's all that I'll say. Orphan is just cool af and I like the Tim and Steph dynamic so they're the only acceptable ones to me.

[@webtely]

Stephanie Brown is one of my favorite characters and she's been around for a while since the 90s. She was a very integral part of Tim Drake's solo Robin which he had for over ten years. During the run she had some really strong character moments, got a lot of development and afterwards she even became Batgirl and her run as Batgirl is great, I highly recommend it. So no she's not just a person who snitches. Her and Cassandra should be part of it everyone else however I don't care for

[@Hollowmello1285]

For me stephanie brown never gets respected even though she was robin. From what i've heard, a common complaint (from fans and other characters) about Stephanie Brown is that she isn't as capable as others in the Bat-Family. I believe this is actually the character's greatest strength, as her entire history (from 1992-2011) is about overcoming hurdles that other people (often her friends) place in her way. Nothing in her life is “easy”, and that's refreshing in a city of master acrobats, ninjas, and superpowers. She's got a villain for a dad (the opposite of Barbara), doesn't benefit from money (like Bruce, and all the Robins), and has no extreme training (Dick, Damian, Cassandra). Everyone she's met has told her at one time or another to quit. Bruce (her best father figure) takes years to even give her the time of day. When he does bring her on as Robin, she only lasts 71 days in the green boots. No natural gifts, no faith from her role models, and things very rarely go her way. Despite all of that, she keeps plugging away. It's been said that her superpower is "trying really hard." Not too inaccurate. She's got a wide blend of motivations for being a hero, but the most constant is the drive to do good and help people. It's those traits that I like, determination through adversity, and an unerring need to do right in the world. Plus she isn't one of bruces kids, has alive parents and comes from crime alley like Jason(which makes her dynamic with bruce interesting and good to explore which the comics sadly never did cause the same writes who wanted jason dead because of stupid reasons wanted to kill off steph. That's why they had a good relationship in the comics in task force z out of everyone she gets him the most and they both got tortured by a batman villain (black mask and joker).

[@User777-p5d]

Terry,Azreal and Cassandra Caine are the 3 main obscure characters that are actually cool in the bat family

[@RangerFilms88]

The only other batfam member that you care about is Cassandra Cain. She's really like that in the comics.

[@masonmetz9814]

The family members that you mentioned you care about are good choices. I would only argue for Signal and Spoiler as additional members. Signal is good because he is Gotham city's daytime protector, however, I think he suffers when attached to the main bat family since he's not allowed to stand out his own. Spoiler has been a long supporting character of Tim Drake and has been a robin and a bad girl, so I think she solidly has her place as a member of the bat family

[@RickDubs1987]

For real I have this problem with the bat family to me Bruce to Damien is my limit

[@yummynubs3646]

Don't forget the secret nth Batfamily member: Danny Phantom!

[@cole6843]

Even Harley Quinn has joined the batman! Ugh! She doesn't deserve that! Thats just stupid!

[@Legitfelix4343]

Yo like deadass, they really got a member to watch every street in gotham

[@K2Shiesty-oo8wi]

We're not adding any new members to the Bat family until we get a red hood game thats my headcannon

[@Demigah]

Me too

[@greyarcher2099]

We need Red Hood : Kill the Suicide Squad

[@geofft.1959]

The only other character you should add to your list is Cassandra Cain.. David Cain and Lady Shiva's daughter..goddamn

[@ImNotGlitxtrap]

I have not ever heard of these members 😂

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

They're from the Rebirth comics except the biological daughter of Catwoman and Batman called Helena Wayne, (Huntress), so if you're looking into Batfamily comics I suggest buying Earth 2 comics, Batman Beyond comics, Nightwing comics, Red Robin comics, and Red Hood comics.

[@Hollowmello1285]

2:07 Alright i'll try to explain her backstory if i must : She's the daughter of Arthur Brown, aka The Cluemaster, who is clearly not the world's best father. Her mom spends most of Stephanie's childhood hooked on pills. (Though she does eventually gets her act together) When her Dad gets out of prison and back to planning robberies, Stephanie decides to Spoil his schemes by sending clues to the Batman. They take him down together, day saved. Her caped career might have ended there, but for the fact she met Tim Drake. She can't go back to a mundane life now. She's caught a glimpse of this exciting world of crime fighting, with a "cute boy" by her side! They're the same age, they both run around in spandex, they both share this secretive hobby. It's fucking magical! Well, that idea lasts for a little while at least. Bit by bit, reality creeps in. He's been trained by a legendary mentor, has tons of gadgets, and a transforming car. She's got a rope. All the other heroes running around the city? They don't even know she exists. The only one who talks to her is Robin. He knows her name and history, but she's never seen under his mask. He can clear a room of bad guys, and she's getting kidnapped. Then out of nowhere he drops that he's got a girlfriend. "Well what the hell were we just doing running around rooftops together and making out?" She got a taste of something exciting (the crimefighting life & Robin), then as soon as she expresses interest, she gets shut down. "You can't be in our cool club, and by the way, I've got a girlfriend who's not you. So sorry." That might have been the end of it, except that Tim Drake keeps stringing her along! He visits her window occasionally and lets her into an adventure here or there. He gives up a kiss or two until it's finally convenient for him to be with her. By the time she's established herself as Spoiler: Part-time Crimefighter, it's under this umbrella of never being good enough for Robin, Batman, or anyone else. They've handed her a huuuge inferiority complex. It's actually rather “Marvel” of DC to build a character like this. Whereas every other hero in the DC universe is getting challenges from the bad guys (Luthor: "Take that superman, you're not strong enough to beat my robot!" Superman:"Yes I am, look at me punch your robot!") Stephanie Brown has to deal with challenges from her friends and allies on top of it all. Bruce: You're not good enough to be out here, go home. Tim: You're not good enough to be with me, I'm more interested in this other girl (this happens over and over). Also, you're clearly the junior partner in our relationship. Oh, you're Robin now because I quit? Don't worry, Batman will fire you in two months and bring me back. Cassandra: Hey, you're nice and all, but I'm about 100x more capable than you'll ever be. Every time we fight someone tough, I knock you out beforehand so you don't get hurt. Barbara: Hey, I'm the iconic Batgirl who everyone likes more than you. I'm also super bitter that you're Batgirl now. Damain: Hey, you suck at your job, and you're poor too. Stephanie being Stephanie though, she only toughens under the pressure. I'm not entirely sure Chuck Dixon (original creator) actually intended for the character to take on these traits. But it works beautifully. She grows into a determined, experienced, and hardened crime fighter. Eventually, Batman has Cassandra Cain give Stephanie the Batgirl title, and DC has Bryan Q. Miller write it. The Batgirl run is a masterpiece because it recognizes exactly what the character wants and needs. The entire run was about her accepting her limitations, growing her abilities, earning the respect of others, and self actualizing. It ends with her exorcising her demons, finally finding her self worth, and choosing to build a life in a world of ninjas, death cults, and super powers. She sees her possible futures in the last issue, and gladly leaps towards them on the last page. It's goddamn beautiful! The 24 issues are a well directed story about entering adulthood. All through the lens of the Batfamily and crime fighting. It's the resolution of a 19 year story arc. One that highlights her need to help others, and refusal to let anyone stop her. So Stephanie Brown is a great character to read because she's fun and lighthearted, but there's also a great deal of poignancy just under the surface. I encourage others to read her stories with that in mind.

[@zachryder3150]

I respect you for not choosing a picture with Harley Quinn posting with them.

[@Demigah]

I would never disrespect the family like that

[@elctrn3311]

She has as much place in the bat family as her ex boyfriend does I'd much rather Damien become the next Batman permanently than ever have Harley in the bat family. Idc how redeemed she is

[@xxbertxx2552]

She shouldn't be in the Bat Family AT ALL

[@Chaplinandlock7462]

The top 8 gotta be Terry Batman, Dick, Grayson, Barbara Gordon, red hood and Tim and Alfred and maybe Damien not in that order

[@anonimoqualquer9422]

It's straight up a crime that we don't get a Red Hood game until this day, the only thing we have of decent to our boy is his gameplay in the Arkham Night DLC

[@Demigah]

Closest you can get is wearing his fit in DC Universe online

[@anonimoqualquer9422]

@@Demigah true

[@elctrn3311]

And its such a mid dlc, ik because damn near at least twice every month i replay the whole thing It's such a disappointment. They made a matter of family with an entirely new map, a bunch of objectives as well as an awesome boss fight, but then gave Jason three levels and a mediocre boss fight where the only challenge is not being able to combo takedown black mask. If they made a new game where he hunts the ss and Deathstroke helps him, then thatd be fire, but considering how rocksteady are basically ran by sbi, we might just get a harley quinn game where she rizzes child poison ivy LMAO

[@zskull1013]

Terry McGinnis, from Batman Beyond. Is great, as he does things Batman never would. He likes to talk, fight dirty, and laughs at the Joker.

[@orlandojosemoraamaya363]

Stephanie Is the original love interest of Tim Drake

[@Demigah]

I know about this, but thank you!

[@tomodachiotaku8004]

There is bisexuality you know.

[@tancredelaywat442]

The problem is that Batman is mad and he took kids and people into his madness where these ones are not mad like him, he brainwashed them, so there is a terrible idealistic mind that i don't caution. For this war against crime, he should have no sidekick and no one in the fire of action because that he puts his life in danger, it's already a noble cause but you don't put in danger the lives of the others. The concept of family is not the problem but the execution, and my ideal Bat Family will be composed of people who helps Batman in distance and contact and also in case of big help : - Catwoman, she is the perfect sidekick where she is there for Batman in case of big problems and at the same time, she does her thing outside of Batman missions. - Oracle, for her communication and computer support. - Alfred, for his moral support. - Lucius Fox, for his logistic and technological support.

[@horrorclause]

Bruce as Batman. Dick as Nightwing. Jason as Red Hood. Tim as Red Robin. Damian as Robin. Barbara as Oracle. Cassandra as Batgirl. Stephanie as Spoiler. And Alfred holding them all together. That's it! That's the perfect Bat-Family.

[@CyclopsWasRight]

I agree 100%. They're trying to usher in all these new peeps when the older ones are still fresh. Stephanie Brown was my favorite Batgirl btw. 😅

[@Toatekaha]

1:01 Bruh that sounds like the perfect Prady name for a Superhero, NOT IN RELATION TO THE GOD DAM BATFAMILY.

[@GM-gb1eu]

Bat Family that I care about: Batman Alfred Dick Jason Tim Damian Cassandra Cain Batgirl (the GOAT Batgirl, the fact that you didn't mention her is disgracfull) Stephanie Brown Barbara As guests: Catwoman or Talia (although one of them can be more stable member if DC decides one of them and Bruce to be together) Starfire Artemis Flatline the others can go for the mission to find some milk and I will not even ask questions where are they