The Bat Signal The Penguin Finale Ending Scene Episode 8

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@miteigi8334 Ай бұрын

"Nothing is in your way now." Then suddenly something's in the way.

@purpsensei271 Ай бұрын

W comment

@neverfoldvlogs Ай бұрын

That theme song better play

@festarii Ай бұрын

W comment

@lmaoded1550 Ай бұрын

Tuuununununuuu

@Jack-pz9oy Ай бұрын

double entendre eh?

@Americanlorebooks 2 ай бұрын

I think the Bat-Signal was perfect at the end. This story was about why the Penguin is such an evil villain, so evil that it borders on the mythical. And when he crosses that threshold of becoming a powerful villain in the last scene, it simultaneously calls for a hero to be activated. Like Gotham or nature now knows it needs its Dark Knight, evil's nemesis.

@jadenmartinez9209 Ай бұрын

I got chills reading this.

@Tragedyval Ай бұрын

If matt reeves makes villains mini series like this for other villains. All their endings should end with the bat signal

@Zenith_Nulls Ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@vanillabatcave5677 Ай бұрын

I like this, in some stories Batman is almost like Gotham's immune system trying to fight off all the evil within it.

@victorpena3129 Ай бұрын

lol duh

@StupiDummy 2 ай бұрын

Mannn this scene is so unsettling and disgusting. From his vegetable mom just laying and staring, which she specifically told him not to let happen, to his prostitute girlfriend dressing up as his mom and him telling her what to say to him. Just plain disturbing.

@torad_2120 Ай бұрын

@SilverPlayer2002 Ай бұрын

And what a great way to end this show for how irredeemable and villainous Oz is at his core. He became the monster we all know Penguin to be.

@lmaoded1550 Ай бұрын

Vegetable xd

@travjt2 Ай бұрын

“Vegetable mom” 💀

@hypercc1 Ай бұрын

Thats the point though isn't it? Batman's villain's are disturbed whether they start out like that or become that. Oz is obsessed with power and influence and also clearly has an oedipal complex. He's achieved his lifelong goal and thinks nothing stands in his way.........until a light shines in the sky

@dforman4770 2 ай бұрын

The ending that reminds us, oh yeah. *He’s one of the most heartless, demented Batman villains ever* .Also, having a prostitute dress up as his mom was so goddam creepy

@connorranz9746 Ай бұрын

Clayface

@darkman7009 Ай бұрын

@@connorranz9746Eva karlo based from basil karlo

@JohnDoe-ym8si Ай бұрын

wtf how did I miss that !

@MasDouc 12 күн бұрын

Yeah they turned all of the viewers into brainwashed henchman, The Penguins best skill.

@nickbrown638 8 күн бұрын

I know it’s lame to say, but I always got a weird vibe from his relationship to his mother as we got to see his past and how he and his mom went on little “dates”. His girlfriend dressing as her made me feel as horrified as I was vindicated.

@Stardweller1 Ай бұрын

Oz was too focused on beating the other crime lords to remember that there’s someone else out there who is the ultimate enemy of ALL crime lords!

@DJKO12X Ай бұрын

Joker: Oooooh big bird is now on the move....But Im always one step ahead of him. He lacks a good ol....*PUNCHLINE*

@mohammedyasin4006 Ай бұрын

Man you hyping me up😂

@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou 2 ай бұрын

Enjoy it while it lasts Oz, because sooner or later, the Bat will come for you...

@Gadget-Walkmen Ай бұрын

It’s so disturbing that she told him to take her out IF she turns into a vegetable but Oz does the exact opposite and purposely keeps her alive for his own self interests and selfishness. That’s why Francis’s cries, because her son never truly does what she wants.

@spartanmuse Ай бұрын

I see it as a fitting, although disturbing, punishment. He convinced himself that everything he did was for his mom, to have her love and approval even going so far as letting his brothers drown and it turns out that she knew, that she hated him for it and those were her last words to him. So Oz, being the disturbed individual we know he is, decided to fulfill one of his promises to her, watching the city from a penthouse, while neglecting his other promise.

@bradleymarshall5489 Ай бұрын

I mean she's probably also crying because she knows full well that her son is the devil who took everything from her from her sons to her dignity and that she should've just had him killed when she had the chance

@asturianix9820 Ай бұрын

Fun fact: Sociopaths cannot feel true empathy for anyone, but they can feel a kind of "selective empathy". This means that they may develop a connection with certain people, but it is based on how those people benefit them emotionally. They cannot feel real love because they cannot experience the emotional depth that love demands. What they feel is more of a form of utilitarian emotional interest or dependence. Oz doesn't love his mother (even though he thinks he does). What Oz wants is her maternal love to feed his narcissistic ego. But he doesn't care about her as a person. That's why she doesn't care if she suffers as long as she "fulfills her function": Having the penthouse he promised her, and telling him that she is proud of him. He is a creepy overgrown spoiled toddler, whose sense of "importance" is still being the center of attention of her mommy, even if she is in agonizing pain or living as a vegetable. An inhuman born monster throwing a chilidish neverending tantrum... who cant possibly be any other thing.

@syuriychuk3782 Ай бұрын

Isn't it psycopaths?

@asturianix9820 Ай бұрын

@syuriychuk3782 no. Psicopaths can feel empathy either, but for what I understand (im not a professional) they are less emotional and impulsive.

@krokodylan2373 20 күн бұрын

That is waht i love about the show. Everything he does he says he did for his mom, and i think he really believes that to. But it all comes down to being praised by her, i would say it comes from his childhood where his mother never gave him enough attention. Or it was already like this at birth

@asturianix9820 20 күн бұрын

@krokodylan2373 just as she said, she had enough love for the 3 of them. He wasn not a tragic crippled kid. He was just a born monster. Thats the twist we didnt see coming.

@ombeth 20 күн бұрын

@@asturianix9820 I think the main difference between the two is a psychopath does not respond to fear, where as a sociopath will. Sociopathy is part of psychopathy, but they would still have the reaction, "Oh no I just got caught." A psychopath caught doing a crime is going to be more like, "Yeah, And?" Consequences don't phase a psychopath.

@DAVISITHO1520 Ай бұрын

“Nothing steps on your way now.” Batsignal activated Chills.

@Therealstoob Ай бұрын

chills, literal chills

@MichaelTuohy Ай бұрын

Dafuq? The line is "Nothing's standing in your way now." What you wrote doesn't make any sense

@tacticaltaylor6936 29 күн бұрын

@@MichaelTuohydeadass they probably had the video going too while typing that

@ultron_sigma 7 күн бұрын

@@MichaelTuohy he's indicating that oz thinks he's the top dawg in gotham and won, only for the batsignal to appear alludes that he hasn't won yet.

@MichaelTuohy 7 күн бұрын

@@ultron_sigma Eh? I know what he's saying and what it means. The quote from OP is incorrect.

@kentinson1670 Ай бұрын

I love that he's portrayed as an irredemable insane villain and chose to end his story on that. From killing Vic, keeping his mother alive, and his girlfriend dressing like his mom, they showed us that Oswald is just as batshit insane as the rest of Arkham. Remember that in traditional Batman lore, the Penguin is almost always locked up in Arkham rather than Blackgate, which is where the sane criminals are incarcerated. Thank the writers they didn't make him a sympathetic anti-hero. Now we can all enjoy Batman jumping this mfer's ass

@lordofbamfs-3941 Ай бұрын

This is scene is as comparably creepy as Homelander getting the shapeshifter to be his old boss/gf

@lmaoded1550 Ай бұрын

Exactly

@vickysib0611 Ай бұрын

Or Norman Bates keeping his mother’s corpse

@sunchaser9898 Ай бұрын

"where was Batman in all this" you'd be surprised how much Batman misses because he's doing like a million other things. Hell sometimes it even takes him out of Gotham. I mean its one guy and a butler vs easily 10 insane madmen/madwomen

@StoogesTheTwo Ай бұрын

Exactly. People wanted him to come when really Batman prob had his hands tied already with something completely different, maybe something involving assisting city with repairs or something from the end of the last movie. The whole penguin show takes course over just a few months and penguin was relatively under the radar except for the past weeks in show

@channe3049 Ай бұрын

@@StoogesTheTwo The show took place a week after the movie. Batman was probably busy rescue people from the flood while he recovering from his chest wound from shotgun blast. Not to mention that Batman would not take a risk to involve in a gang war between 2 Gotham's big mafia crime families killing each other.

@spacemonkey. Ай бұрын

It's understandable Batman not appearing, but every single gangster acting like he doesn't exist? They could have made him present with some dialogues abiut him, or someone with fear of doing something, or even the batsignal appearing along the series, would've made sense, specially after the setting scene in the movie where different street level criminals stop doing their thing afraid of the dark after watching the batsignal in the sky.

@jonathangael3370 Ай бұрын

@@channe3049 the hell you mean, he does that all the time

@ziglgler 11 күн бұрын

honestly, if you have noticed the small details. It’s literally one man and his butler against all of gotham (Court of Owls hint hint)

@neverfoldvlogs Ай бұрын

Who else knew straight away when the camera pointed at the sky We knew the bat signal was gon be up 😭 I knew he wasn’t gon show up but I’m just glad we got a little taste of that scene Gives me chills knowing Gordon is calling Batman up because they found a body and wants Batman to investigate on it. “Nobody stand in your way” then the big bat shows up

@claritycrystal8742 Ай бұрын

Maybe it's just me but why did I think of "body" as in Victor's body? Like the police found him dead and his connection to Oz will lead the Batman to him somehow.

@vanillabatcave5677 Ай бұрын

I liked that, like in the Joker comic where he doesn't show up until the very end.

@joyajohnson2216 Ай бұрын

My god, his poor mom. She’s conscious but she can’t move or speak. And is forced to hear Oz having a prostitute pretend to BE HER just downstairs. My god. He is vile.

@bilbobaggins3068 Ай бұрын

It’s a fate worse than death but she also had it coming. She knowingly fostered a monster in the hopes that it’ll come around to benefit her.

@joseluis5055 Ай бұрын

@@bilbobaggins3068it backfired in the worst way possible. She should've thrown him in jail

@MasDouc 12 күн бұрын

The bat signal turning on is the perfect answer to "Gotham is yours now, nothing can stand in your way." Summoning a Batman with the unofficial theme song of "something in the way"

@Dementia-pt5uz Ай бұрын

The best part of this show is how it understands Batman’s villains are compelling enough to tell their own stories *without* Batman. His presence elevates them just as they do for him, but they can and will stand on their own.

@Speednut5016 11 күн бұрын

I hope this isn’t the case with the Clayface movie. I know it’s the DCU but that villain you kind of HAVE to show Batman in a capacity beyond the lit up signal and mentions. Heck they can even have Clay mimic Batman, that’d be pretty slick.

@QuangMinh-kd1bn Ай бұрын

imagine the opening scene of The Batman 2 is Bruce holding Vic’s ID card 😅

@ultron_sigma Ай бұрын

That's gonna be impossible since his ID is deep in the water, and no one else doesn't even know

@official_man01 Ай бұрын

@@ultron_sigmaOz did that so no one would know who Vic was.

@AdamJames-y4j Ай бұрын

@@ultron_sigmaor the lake freezes since its winter and someone stumbles on it under the ice

@Arkhamman2023 Ай бұрын

@@official_man01Fellow man?

@HeliosSol183 21 күн бұрын

Won't happen, Vic was a nobody in the grand scheme of things

@jdyico Ай бұрын

Oz: *Tell me you're proud of me.* Eve: *I'm so proud of you, Oz.* Oz: *Tell me, "IT'S COBBIN TIME!".* Eve: *Wait what?*

@fernhausluv44 19 күн бұрын

Oz: "I'M GONNA OZ ALLLLL OVER THA PLACE MA!" Eve: Okay...I think its time for bed...you smoke too much of that 'Cobblepot.'

@TXTerrz 2 ай бұрын

In the end, it shows that Oz may have had some humanising moments throughout the show. But in the end, he was and always will be one of Batman's greatest foes and Gotham's future Kingpin. 🐧

@owene2530 2 ай бұрын

Any humanity we saw in Oz was an act and this episode showed him for who he truly is, a psychopath, a sociopath, a cold blooded murderer, and an animal.

@loneoutsider8004 Ай бұрын

@owene2530 I'm really sick and tired of stigma against aspd. Evil is not mental illness, and calling someone an animal is downright insulting and foolish. We humans have done so much worse than any animal in the planet.

@travjt2 Ай бұрын

@@loneoutsider8004can you do something that I would get banned if I told you to do

@HeshamGamil-c7v Ай бұрын

He is a rat with wings la rata

@Malgus87 28 күн бұрын

He is a mobster, not the Kingpin.

@ignaciodiazr Ай бұрын

The thing is that nobody gets in his way and the Bat Signal appears, it goes deeper since Batman looked at the Penguin as a nobody, but now he is a threat to Gotham.

@Fitchy-ke3wz Ай бұрын

The ending reminds us all that The Penguin is a villain.

@nms7872 Ай бұрын

And all the previous scenes didn't make that clear for you??

@ultron_sigma Ай бұрын

Notes sony should take

@goonishereva Ай бұрын

@@nms7872Actually not really. By showing everything in Oz’s POV the show tricks you into rooting for him, only to remind you that he’s among Gotham’s most demented villains

@BOZ_11 13 күн бұрын

@@goonishereva I was rooting for Sofia by the end of episode 3. It was clear that he didn't have the honour present even among thieves. Come to think of it, Sofia never crossed anyone who didn't have it coming; unlike Oz

@david9243 Ай бұрын

”Its the frigging bat!”

@uskz708 2 ай бұрын

Notice that she’s wearing exactly what his mother was wearing when they danced in the nightclub

@pedrogarciaverdous5438 2 ай бұрын

Yes and he call hers Ma, and if you notice when we see her we think its her mother because of the blur because of the hair and dress

@torad_2120 Ай бұрын

REALLY? IT'S ALMOST LIKE THAT'S THE POINT OF THE SCENE

@krpyton7368 Ай бұрын

Someone needs to put the Batman returns soundtrack at the ending of this final episode where the camera moves up and the back signal is turned on

@maxuabo Ай бұрын

No, my brain does not work nor does my memory. Never heard of it.

@ArthurMrgan Ай бұрын

Notice how she has the same hairdo that Francis had. Almost like Oz wants her to look like his mother.

@emilianoh.r5844 Ай бұрын

Whoever thought making that final scene and final frame deserves a raise! Genius!

@thedarknate08 Ай бұрын

Why? They will never bring in Batman for this show

@infinitytimer6245 Ай бұрын

@@thedarknate08 You do know that this show is a tie-in to a movie series... right?

@thedarknate08 Ай бұрын

@@infinitytimer6245 yes but I don't think they will bring batman in

@infinitytimer6245 Ай бұрын

@@thedarknate08 What I'm saying is this show was *made* to set up penguins' involvement in Batman 2. That's why the ending is so well framed. It's the perfect precursor for the sequel while also just being a good scene. And, depending on how the events of batman 2 goes this probably isn't going to get another season tbh.

@samlaskowski9537 Ай бұрын

@@infinitytimer6245also Batman part 2 starts a few minutes after the signal goes up. According to Matt Reeves.

@Claybrown95 2 ай бұрын

Give this man a Golden Globe !

@JLee-g6w Ай бұрын

Colin Farrell was spectacular in this role. He needs to win every award he’s nominated for.

@abhirai6124 Ай бұрын

Yes reward him.❤

@alexanderdoney2520 Ай бұрын

We all were like “WOW!!” when they showed the bat signal. Just a reminder that this is Gotham and Batman is around. So cool.

@DarlingDreadful Ай бұрын

Eve Karlo is seriously teasing Clayface with all her wigs and outfits

@GarthDibbler Ай бұрын

What a great season, brilliant television. Im not big into comics and all that, the other films never grabbed me, but I am absolutely hooked on this batman universe. The film was beautifully dark and disturbed, the pacing was great and some of the shots were pure art - and this show just adds to it. Roll on the next installment! I'm all in!

@MegaTech81 Ай бұрын

"Nothing's standing in your way now." No. There's something in the way... mmmmmmmhmmmmmm...

@thaistomp 28 күн бұрын

Emo Batman isn’t scaring anyone lol 🤣😎

@zackfisher6893 Ай бұрын

This ending was more satisfying than any MCU show they've made and they didn't even have a Batman cameo

@Therealstoob Ай бұрын

Fr, it was entertaining enough with penguin and all the other crime bosses

@Malgus87 28 күн бұрын

Moon Knight was pretty good, but Disney didn't want to be fully dark and destroyed it.

@Kaiba_yug 24 күн бұрын

W for DC its about time 🙌

@sunchaser9898 Ай бұрын

I loved that the series didn't do anything outside of The Penguin. No Riddler, Mr. Freeze, Joker, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, just him. Then at the end, it's the return of the King, The Dark Knight, The Batman

@chaunceywashington2493 Ай бұрын

A nice showcase of why the batman villian gallery deserve to be in arkham asylum rather than Blackgate.

@rasputin7633 Ай бұрын

We never stop seeking our parent’s approval. Couple that with a sociopath with delusions of grandeur. What an excellent show they’ve crafted for us.

@sameersingh01 Ай бұрын

Penguin enjoy as much as you can, Batman is coming

@shadowfists Ай бұрын

2:37 aura ♾️

@darthvader1303 Ай бұрын

Vengeance is on it’s way 🦇🦇🦇

@unclephilly2127 18 күн бұрын

Well done scene. The musical dancing number at the end was head and shoulders above the musical numbers in Joker 2.

@thaistomp 7 күн бұрын

Oz dancing with eve at the end is one of my favorite scenes in the series. He’s the kingpin now. Hated seeing my boy Victor go out like that though 💯

@jimmy2k4o Ай бұрын

“Tell me I was good as ‘bullseye’ ma”

@MasDouc 12 күн бұрын

Oh honey, even I can't lie that well

@jimmy2k4o 12 күн бұрын

@ oz: guess you done want an Emmy huh ma?

@vecrb00 Ай бұрын

"Nothing steps on your way now" Then the batsignal appears Os: Why do I hear boss music?

@Howlingburd19 Ай бұрын

Amazing end to an amazing show. The worst part is that deep down Oswald cared about Vic, but he saw Vic as a weakness and that’s why he killed him! But I’m happy they did that because it makes him all the better of a villain!

@ButchSwim Ай бұрын

Everytime oz wins another problem appears till the very end

@VincentOdhiambo-l5h 3 күн бұрын

He won… at least he gets to fight another day

@raiders1994 Ай бұрын

Penguin and Clayface dancing.

@damianstarks3338 Ай бұрын

This ending is both twisted and perfect

@Tyr_Archalion Ай бұрын

I cried when he said "Now I am truly The Penguin" and then stabbed himself in the eye with that broken glass bottle

@Eldron2027 Ай бұрын

This was such a penguin moment Disturbing and all covered in gold

@MrEstrela12 Ай бұрын

We got ourselves a movie coming ladies and gentleman

@JamesMorgan-ne8qu Ай бұрын

Living that Chris Chan life.

@JXJ2.0NETWORK 2 ай бұрын

Looks like the story may have ended the series but he will return in Batman 2

@lordofbamfs-3941 Ай бұрын

Why does the scene kinda look familiar to Arkham Origins to Black Mask’s penthouse

@sedlyholmes3722 Ай бұрын

Oz got mommy issues

@joewhitehead3 Ай бұрын

He just loves his mommy too much

@egb50000 Ай бұрын

He takes the Oedipus complex to a whole another level.

@ombeth 20 күн бұрын

Psychopath got a fixation.

@revelare_xvii6269 Ай бұрын

Now I understand why Batman nearly killed Oswald during that Batmobile chase sequence.

@hbkgunner Ай бұрын

He's coming for you....

@ppmv4285 13 сағат бұрын

Honestly, the Bat signal was the best way to cameo Batman in this series. Oswald's got enough on his plate with the other mobs he's working on, and the signal shows that while Batman might not be on him now, he will be... Just saying this because I heard someone propose they thought Batman should've been standing in the shadows, watching from another rooftop.

@Kat1kafka Ай бұрын

I was kinda hoping it would end with Oz looking over the city, then turning around and showing us a figure of batman

@bat-seal6293 Ай бұрын

Am i the only one who got Batman Return ending vibes

@flavioalbatrozz2557 Ай бұрын

Now i need a twoface series (it could be about a good lawyer that turns into a bad person because of how corrupted Gotham is, or maybe he could lost a case against OZ) a redhood series (what happened with joker before he became the joker) a Gordon series, ( like true crime or Seven)

@PepeTheFren 2 ай бұрын

So fckd up in so many ways. I loved it. :D

@axelfransson751 8 күн бұрын

Vengeance is coming

@DAVD305 Ай бұрын

🐧 Smoked Vic and Robbed him 😂

@vvitchuntt2983 Ай бұрын

i have chills

@Elusivearth 11 күн бұрын

Penguin got hit with the "the tutorial is now over, spawn protection has been lifted" and batman straight up camping noobs

@Matthematic7 2 күн бұрын

This is on par with the "blood smile" scene from Joker

@Kloutkulture Ай бұрын

Nothings in your way Something’s in the way…. Hmmmmm unhhhh

@kagemaru2503 Ай бұрын

There should be no Season 2 it ended this series perfectly

@egb50000 Ай бұрын

Oz Cobb will return in The Batman: Part II

@thegamervoid7487 13 күн бұрын

"Nothing is in your way now." Nothings in your way for another 3 years.

@Will-sq3ip Ай бұрын

Now that I see what kind of person Oswald, aka the Penguin, is, he fits perfectly in Arkham.

@mrbluesky4838 24 күн бұрын

Nah, he’s definitely a bit nuts when it comes to his mother but other than that I’d say he’s one of Batman’s sanest villains lol which says a lot

@cesaracosta5483 Ай бұрын

As much as I love the ending. I still wish he would’ve worn that top hat and at least smoked a cigar. It would’ve been perfect. Earlier in the episode the councilman told him that he should clean his image a bit. I’m sure that’ll give Oz the idea that he should present himself as a more legitimate business man that just happens to be the kingpin of Gotham. Just like the classic version of penguin. Man, I love this series so much my excitement for The Batman Part II just Skyrocketed.

@francesconatalia8070 Ай бұрын

Gotham is yours

@Darkd1n0 Ай бұрын

I genuinely can’t tell if Francis is crying because of her being a vegetable or if she’s crying out of joy that oz actually kept his promise and gave her the penthouse she deserved.

@Imanmagnet00 Ай бұрын

She's crying cus she was left to become a shell staring at nothing, like she told Oz she didn't want to

@krypticunlimited6925 Ай бұрын

Its most definatly the fact that she's a vegetable. The last thing she ever said to him was how ashamed she was of him for killing her other two sons, and he couldnt even keep his promise to let her die once she came to this state. Fate worse than death

@ombeth 20 күн бұрын

She's crying because she's in hell.

@DarkCreed Ай бұрын

Penguin dancing with Clayface

@burhanuddinsakarwala5033 Ай бұрын

Oz killed the one person who believed in him, and for what?

@Zuexis1 Ай бұрын

Fr he did Victor wroooong. That sht pissed me off, but it really cements his villain status. I really started to like Oz lmao. (Aside from him killing his brothers.)

@Other-up7xm Ай бұрын

for himself thats what, Vic made him weak and he couldn't let that happen. He's a sociopath. Poor Vic

@YesMan7331 25 күн бұрын

Vic solidified it when he called Oz family I think. Oz doesn’t like to be perceived as weak & I think he actually did care about Victor in his own twisted way so he smoked him so that his care for Vic wouldn’t come back to bite him later. (Ex; Vic gets taken & Oz has to deal with ransoms etc, Oz would probably do it) but it’s ultimately something Oz believes that ppl would perceive him as weak for & he’s already got his mom to worry about. (I’m rationalizing his possible thoughts not condoning them).

@joewhitehead3 Ай бұрын

I’d like to know where Batman was throughout the timeline of this series

@ultron_sigma Ай бұрын

Probably dealing with other big issues before oz became the top dawg, only to finally get the batmans attention.

@joewhitehead3 Ай бұрын

@ Mmh interesting concept

@mrdrek2007 Ай бұрын

So this is it til The Batman 2? 😢

@AdarshKumar-lh3wo 2 ай бұрын

What's the name of the song playing in.rhe background?

@iamstarstreek 2 ай бұрын

If This is Goodbye - Margaret Whiting

@Yiii912 7 күн бұрын

If he drank a glass of milk or a tiny bottle then yeah... sorry Oz Homelander still keeps the 🐐 crown for mommy issues.

@rijusnar1994 Ай бұрын

Penguin is not going to be the main vilain in Batman 2 .

@adelgani2895 Ай бұрын

Dear lord, hope its not going to be joker again, Batman movies and games have been over saturated with joker, they should let other villain shine in the next movie, mainly scarecrow, bane or Mr freeze.