The Batman is Overrated

[@excellence5144]

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[@heisenberg2712]

I agree that The riddler case is very easy especially for an ordinary real life detective. In the "thumb" drive batman found in the mayors parking garage, we can see some photos taken from a vantage point. Later in the movie it turns out that that vantage point is riddler's home. Detectives usually check those vantage points of photos for any clues. The idea is that, they want to catch riddler, they dont know where the riddler is but they at least know riddler was there at the location of the vantage point as riddler had to physically be there to take those photos. So maybe they might find some clues, small clues or big clues, finger prints or hair, or DNA samples or maybe they will find no clues and its a deadend. Anything is possible. The only way to find out is to investigate it and its worth a shot especially considering there are no other leads. Once they do that game over they caught the riddelr and 90% of the movie would not have happen as riddler lives there. Also the only reason riddler succeeded in flooding Gotham is Batman does not know what a carpet tucker is and by the time he learn what it is from the policeman its too late. real live average detectives would know what a carpet tucker is and thus be able to find the bombs and save gotham from flooding AND they would have caught the riddler throught the photos in the "thumb drive" Basically because Batman is a bad detective, the movie is 3 hours long, if he were a good one he would have solved it so fast that the movie would only be 30 minutes long lol.

[@excellence5144]

@@heisenberg2712 thank you for the time you took to write this. i didn't notice the photo detail but that's a good catch. I was mainly talking about the kindergarderner riddles. How are you gonna use such easy riddles while also trying to use Ciphers? It felt impaired for the sake of the audience being able to follow when Batman should be ahead of the audience.

[@heisenberg2712]

@@excellence5144 I agree. I felt like Matt Reeves is not competent enough to write a clever story as it very difficult to do so, so he made it easy for himself by reducing the challenge. Reducing the challenge of the riddles or making batman stupid so riddler can succeed in flooding gotham. He could tell a story which is much more clever, the riddles are difficult to solve, the challenge is greater both for batman and riddler as both are intelligent characters so it should be difficult to outsmart eachother thus producing an better clever story but I guess thats too difficult for him come up with so he made it easy for himself with easy riddlers, batman not being smart enough thus producing a poor written story.

[@IloveNavaMau]

You're opinion is fucking disgusting and I don't respect it You're a terrible person The Batman is the best film of this year

[@JamielPridgen68]

I think they should’ve nameed this movie Batman, the whisper! Because everybody in this damn movie is whispering through the entire film. I kind of enjoyed it as much as it gets annoying. It’s a good movie, but is a little exaggerated about it’s greatness. I would’ve had a little bit more fighting in there and I would’ve had BATMAN doing a little bit more detective work instead of just standing around guessing stuff for the police when he could’ve actually been doing police work, like Chris Nolan’s Batman did. The fight scene in the beginning was just OK to me. It was kind of underwhelming. The only good thing about that scene was when he first walks in through the subway but when you hear him walking and you see him, his walk sounds more menacing, than his bodyweight actually looks . In other words, if the Ben Affleck Batman had walked out of that tunnel, I think all those guys would’ve shitted in their pants lol. Also, Ben Affleck had a better fight scene when he was saving Superman’s mother . Other than that the movie was fine.

[@ControllerAkimbo]

this is such a good critique, anyone who is an actual batman fan realizes how way off the mark riddler was, he is my biggest [problem in the film and I hate Paul Dano's performance

[@TheAnti-Lgtv]

I Am sure It was More of a Introduced To Him Than a Actual Prime Version

[@geordiemc4571]

????? how would you have made riddler? he was literally the zodiac killer it worked perfectly, he was dark, intelligent, obsessed, insane, and he looks just like edward, did you want some goofy comical cartoonish riddler? thankgod your not directing it

[@tiernanfarrelly5314]

He's better then jim

[@breyor1]

@@tiernanfarrelly5314lol, no.

[@ned5231]

​@@geordiemc4571it didn't work perfectly, he ended up being some dude angry about government corruption and idolizing batman, that's not the Riddler, the riddlers 2 main distinguishing personality traits are his intellect and his narcissism, who wouldn't idolize batman he wants to beat batman, prove he's smarter than Batman

[@matrixman117edits7]

While I appreciate your passion and depth of discussion, I disagree with most if not all of your points. Bruce Wayne IS the main character of this story and does get a lot of focus in what he does out of the costume. Him being a grim obsessed stalker of the night makes sense, since he hasn't created the public billionaire image yet and is still coping with the death of his parents. Matt Reeves wasn't out to make an origin movie for the character, he was out to make a young Batman who's still learning how to be a symbol of hope for Gotham and not just a vengeful creature of the night. That's the point of the movie. That Batman should inspire hope and not just vengeful violence. So your repeated claims of this film being pointless or without a cohesive story hold no ground. Your humor also felt really out of place in most areas and should be cut down in future reviews, as it took focus away from the points discussed. If you want to use those types of jokes, I'd save it for shorter videos.

[@goose5368]

I completely agree

[@thequinlanshow3326]

Thats just not true at all lmao, considering Bruce Wayne was around for decades before Batman was a thing. The excuses for this movie are just ridiculous

[@thequinlanshow3326]

No one asked for your advice you prick, keep it to yourself

[@OfficialEdwardNewgate]

@@thequinlanshow3326 He has not been around for decades

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

So it’s a 3 hour movie about a character becoming the character he is. Sounds like a waste of time. All the defenses of this film go like this. “He’s young” “We have to wait for the sequel” “Nirvana song”

[@chrismcgill9812]

I watch this movie again the other night just to confirm with myself it wasn’t as good as I thought initially second time around I found out it was even better than I thought lol

[@zzodysseuszz]

Only if you haven’t watched it for a year. Otherwise it has no rewatch value

[@lacapone7551]

Movie is terrible makes me fall to sleep

[@alphaxan8175]

Couldn’t agree more so many people out there that try to paint this movie as boring when it couldn’t be more the OPPOSITE of boring

[@damiantirado9616]

@@alphaxan8175 it’s badly written film. Definitely boring. A bland copy of better movies

[@bruv8801]

@@damiantirado9616 Not definitely boring. It's only boring for people with short attention spans.

[@elijaharvinger1178]

Dude wanted a Batman movie set in the Marvel universe. We really criticizing the movie for not having enough action and jokes???

[@jihadx5307]

Same thing I thought. Dude said “there weren’t any giggles.”

[@BiFive_]

@@jihadx5307 whats funny to me is that i found the scenes with the teen wolf twins funny, but i was glad that the movie took it self pretty seriously because it had serious subject matter

[@vamphunterx]

Yeah, the actual problem with the movie is the unnecessary action scenes. That car chase scene was pointless.

[@ryszakowy]

this wasn't a batman movie not even a detective movie it was mid at best

[@xgaming125g]

Not every movie needs to have jokes in it. Usually a Batman movie is supposed to take itself seriously with darker tones. So this movie thankfully doesn't have too many jokes. However there is almost no action in this movie. THIS IS A BATMAN MOVIE!!! There needs to be a reasonable amount of action and there isn't much.

[@S.A.N.503]

Couldn't disagree more

[@sososnagahae8169]

🤓

[@zev2x762]

🤡

[@Youfrbray]

Loser

[@miguelmigs8520]

@@sososnagahae8169 🤡

[@S.A.N.503]

@@Youfrbray gonna cry?

[@ForeverEliite]

I just don’t understand why they didn’t use Arkham origins as the blueprint. Batman in origins is younger in his tenor as the Dark Knight and theres the stealth, brains, and he’s not invincible. He still makes mistakes and his relationship with Alfred is one of the best I’ve seen in media. The heart in Batman just doesn’t seem to be there for me until his revelation at the end. Which to me doesn’t seem as focused because of all the convoluted plot points that imo I don’t care about. - Selinas friends in trouble - Riddler is killing people - Maroni drug bust that happens *BEFORE the events of the movie for some reason that ties into falconi which also ties into Selinas father. - Bruce parents can actually be corrupt although it was a pointless fake-out to make drama. I don’t need EVERY single facet of Batman to be “built up” over the course of movies. Your telling me second year Batman has no real stealth, and has a squirrel suit for gliding which for me just ruined the *what I thought would be a cool moment.* He fights more like Captain America with a shield blocking bullets than Batman. AND EVEN THEN in Winter soldier Cap gets shot multiple times by Bucky and the impact is felt. Riddler just felt like a killer that was made to seem interesting and pretentious because he talks slow and weird to make him seem scary. Or a discount heath ledger Gordon is okay I guess although he just seems like a basic gruffled good cop rather than a person who has people who he fights for at home. For me its a 6.5/10

[@ForeverEliite]

@gibramrivera8863 I get that too because video games have longer run times but my God to me the biggest crime you can commit in a batman story is having the audience not care about Alfred at all.

[@michaelbarnes2126]

@@ForeverEliitethat’s what I’m saying. I don’t even think a Bruce Wayan returning to Gotham would have ever disrespected Alfred like he did in this movie

[@geekarchivistpearce828]

All modernists are lazy, immature, and uneducated. That's a fact

[@GhoulReviews]

I agree, this is like a 6/10 movie for me, Im glad to see someone else that's on the same page as me. I was told I was crazy for not liking this film when nah it's just overated asf 🤣

[@namehereandthere]

I can guarantee you that WB paid a bunch of influencers to pimp the heck out of this pretty decent film and call it a “flawless masterpiece”.

[@TheAnti-Lgtv]

If Thats The Talk Then Almost every Dc Fan Is what You said Just because You hate it didnt mean Everyone have to Hate It. In the end You Are Making Yourself a Clown🤡

[@mrwhite1437]

-Probably some 12 year Old

[@gontse1386]

​@@mrwhite1437he's an mcu fanboy

[@arnie4692]

My complaint from this movie was that I'll very much appreciate how they tried to make batman more grounded and practical, but in this film he was too... Tangible. Get it that he's supposed to be a myth, like a ghost, you can't see but you know he's out there. Most of the art from the comics showed him in the shadows never showing his complete attire because honestly he would look lije he's from a Halloween party in broad daylight. The movie showed him all the time moving, talking around to people, penguin, Gordon and at the police station. The major problem is the Writing. Its slow, its boring, lacks creativity or any attempt to make it engrossing. Believe me I never complain if a film is around 160 minutes or more, it doesn't matter as long as the pacing is great and it keeps you engaged.

[@BrandonOfJapan]

They establish your main criticism in the first 5 mins, how criminals fear the shadows even though he isn't there. They forgo some of that for the sake of establishing a more Detective driven batman, interrogating and investigating.

[@androogalt]

Something was in the way of this being a good movie

[@djangosusamogus742]

This version of Batman may be vengeance but he isn’t the night and definitely not Batman.

[@dreamyliamy2537]

the issue with the movie is that they took all these successful and/or beloved batman stories and ideas, stitched them together and acted like they did something original because they switched a few names around, made it modern and gave it a realistic aesthetic

[@controlman7490]

The aesthetic of the film is not realistic at all. Batman in this movie performed some very conspicuous preternatural feats. He tanked fully automatic gunfire to the chest like it was nothing and tanked C-4 to the face and didn't have a single scratch. The movie simply feels real, but the laws of physics in the movie are non-realistic.

[@dreamyliamy2537]

@@controlman7490 an aesthetic is not reflective of the substance

[@controlman7490]

@@dreamyliamy2537 Meaning?

[@dreamyliamy2537]

@@controlman7490 an aesthetic references the general visual and auditory style of the films, batman is an inherently unrealistic character so the aesthetic and tone work to push that inherently preternatural and unrealistic story into a fashion that seems realistic

[@controlman7490]

@@dreamyliamy2537 That's essentially what I said before, so why copy and reiterate what I said lmao?

[@chaoticfangurl567]

Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy will always be superior to me

[@JohnnyDollar720]

I'm so glad I didn't have to sit through another origin scene.

[@azmihakam]

I thought the movie was mediocre, not as great as people say it. I agree with you that the revelation was disappointing because the director still wanted the Riddler to be the main villain. To me, he was just another version of Nolan’s Joker with a different persona. And then the cliche bombing scene made the third act pointless. I noticed that this movie was heavily influenced by David Fincher’s work like Zodiac or Seven, but it lacked the suspense. Zodiac had me hooked every time even though it was mostly dialogue, but I didn’t feel the same way about The Batman. I liked the atmosphere and the cinematography, but in the end, it was just style over substance

[@dime1012]

Ppl slurp this movie up like it was flawless😭. I’m an avid Batman fan all around comics games movies, I’m a movie fan, I appreciate slower movies but this was at times a snoozefest. Riddler is goofy while trying to be serious and this interpretation is not very interesting compared to the pantheon of Batman villains available. Ppl say the detective aspect made the movie but it was kinda boring and dumb sometimes not rlly anything special at least. Still my favorite batamovie 8.8/10 for me but I am rlly shaken aback by group think and ppl seem to be emotionally involved whenever someone says anything negative about the movie which is dumb bc nothing no matter how good it is or you perceive it to be, it is not above criticism or improvement

[@Shockkings0714]

Your english is legit horrible lmao. Cant even read this without having a stroke.

[@dime1012]

@@Shockkings0714 there’s literally nothing wrong with my English. Can you point out a single thing that was misspelled?😂 can you point out a single sentence you did not understand? Bc if so then I think you don’t know English very well😭. I went back just to see if you were right and you were not, I actually explained my point pretty dam eloquently If I do say so myself. Anyway it’s a KZbin comment regardless so how correct my English is when you can clearly understand what in saying relevant how? Are you gonna address any of my points or you couldn’t come up with any real criticism so you’re making up shit about my grammatical ability😭😭

[@Shockkings0714]

@@dime1012 You don't know how to use punctuation and the "Slang" and shortened words gave me a stroke along with the countless emojis. It's like a 12 yr old wrote this. "Ppl", a pointless emoji after flawless, no commas between comics, games, and movies followed by a run-off sentence. "rlly", "batamovie", "bc", no period after improvement. This is how it should've been written.. People slurp this movie up like it was flawless. I’m an avid Batman fan all around comics, games, and movies. I’m also a movie fan, and I appreciate slower movies but this was at times a snoozefest. Riddler is goofy while trying to be serious and this interpretation is not very interesting compared to the pantheon of Batman villains available. People say the detective aspect made the movie but it was kinda boring and dumb sometimes, not really anything special at least. Still my favorite Batman movie. 8.8/10 for me but I am really shaken back by groupthink and people seem to be emotionally involved whenever someone says anything negative about the movie, which is dumb because nothing no matter how good it is or you perceive it to be, it is not above criticism or improvement.

[@dime1012]

@@Shockkings0714 dude, are you seriously criticizing me for using lingo. This is normal internet lingo. Rarely on the internet is the standard of not using abbreviations. You jus got upset bc I said “ppl” instead of people. Dude it’s a KZbin comment, which was perfectly understandable. You’re basically trying to treat me like I am stupid and incompetent for using abbreviations and lingo that you’re not comfortable with because you’re old (im assuming) if you have a hard time understanding what “ppl” and “rylly” mean then I highhlyyy suggest spending your time somewhere that’s not the internet or a KZbin comment section lmaoooooo llollll u got me so sleeeeppppp☠️😭☠️☠️😭☠️😭☠️😭😭☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️😭☠️😭☠️🥺☠️

[@Shockkings0714]

@@dime1012 I'm not upset. I'm just saying it was borderline unreadable. You're free to type how you want. Not old btw (If you dont count 22 as old idk)

[@WaitingForTheHook]

The Batman is meh, and the Nolan Batman Trilogy is meh, too? Christ, man... what DO you like?

[@user-ub8kd7fg9q]

I agree. Stupidest thing was chasing penguin and ruining the highway and probably killing lots of civilian but ended up just asking him a question and letting him go.

[@anthonykofron618]

See this movie is real complicated for me. I absolutely love some portions of this movie. While other parts of this movies I can't stand.

[@Shockkings0714]

What parts cant you stand?

[@the_fd_180]

Highly agree here. Everything in this has been done before. It's entertaining but not groundbreaking.

[@jordonsample9368]

Nolan throws in subtle humor, I remember getting my grandma really into TDK trilogy somehow and got a laugh from little lines from Alfred like Batman Begins for example "all those pushups and you can't even lift a bloody log" or whatever he said or when Gordon sees the tumbler and says "I gotta get me one of those" (which I saw you threw that clip in here) little stuff like that just for the little chuckle to relieve tension when the tone been too serious for too long. It's good to have that balance--I don't like when there's none, then MCU is just way over the top with it unnecessarily especially I'd say since Civil War. I remember my best friend showing me The Batman (he'd already seen it). I was into it at first but quickly became more interested in my phone lol, he fell asleep through most of it, and I remember peeking up at some interesting parts like the Riddler face reveal n stuff but the only part aside from the subway fight that really grabbed me was I woke my friend up going "oh sh*t! it's a bomb!!" like right before the seawall broke when I realized what was going on I think during the dialogue scene with Catwoman then literally went right back to not caring. The Great Escape is great example of how to do a 3hr approx runtime right. Watchmen on there too; I liked how it jumped time periods through each character's perspective of having been around the Comedian but also I like the movie ending more than the graphic novel ending (wasn't feeling the extra-dimensional entity, the lovecraft squid thingy--yeah that was weird) I completely agree with the representation of Bruce Wayne--it was absolutely terrible in this movie. Tbh, as bad as Affleck's Batman was...I gotta say he nailed Bruce Wayne. At no point in The Batman did I feel like "oh yeah, this is Bruce Wayne right here". I most definitely did not like Jeremy Irons or Andy Serkis as Alfred. Wasn't feeling the new Gordon and JK Simmons looked ok at first but I didn't really get the Gordon vibes from him. I would've liked to have seen a more intellectually intimidating Riddler, more composed and sophisticated--still an egomaniac, but something more like Arkham Riddler. This one felt like he could easily be bested by his own emotions. TDK's Joker feels more calculated by comparison to this Riddler and that doesn't sit right with me. When he got caught, it felt like they totally nerfed him.

[@excellence5144]

Thank you for the time you took to write the comment and the insight!

[@ned5231]

I agree with alot of your points, the movie is way too long, the last third of the film just completely falls apart especially the end fight with the random internet guys, the part where batman does "the big heroic save" and it's just him helping a couple of people out of 2 feet of water yet it's played so dramatically, the riddler started out good but just ended up being a bad characterisation by the end of it, why would he just give himself up? Why is he recruiting Radom internet geeks to carry out his plan? Why does he even care about corruption in the first place? Cause he's an orphan? That's just stupid and it could have worked if they just changed a few things, the riddlers 2 biggest personality traits are his intellect and his rampant narcissism, he wants to prove that he's smarter and better than every body else so just have his motivation be that he wants to prove he can do Batman's job better than batman can, he can take out the real criminals of the city who batman can't touch and he can get away with it while taunting batman the whole time, it makes no sense that he would want to team up with Batman. Also one thing you missed that really bugged me about the movie, why is everyone in it always whispering? Almost no one in the film talks normally to each other

[@ned5231]

Also I'm sick of people going on about "oh but it's a real detective movie about batman, he's the world greatest detective" he doesn't even solve the case, riddler gives himself up, if its meant to be a batman film showing what a great detective he is then it should have him actually figuring out who Riddler is

[@yurif0331]

horrible and boring movie

[@excellence5144]

@@ned5231 thank you for the comment and insight!

[@Dragonfire-ir5ln]

Your point on bruce being batman all the time is literately ignoring the entire thing they try to say about that, he literately learns at the end of the movie that being batman all the time is not the best way to help gotham and that he needs to be bruce Wayne to help in ways the batman can't

[@Dragonfire-ir5ln]

@happy little trees 239 and you don't like it because it does something more likely the actual character would try to do early in his career?

[@ItsSupercat94]

@@Dragonfire-ir5ln the point is that batman doesn't need this character arc, this is something he should have figured out before he became batman. What needed to be the main arc for him is going from a vigilante striking fear into criminals to instead being a beacon of hope which is what I liked about the movie, but batman not having his bruce Wayne persona just misses the point for me.I also want to add that in this universe Batman's identity is much more obvious than any other incarnation because of bruce basically being a shut in as-well

[@thequinlanshow3326]

@@Dragonfire-ir5ln lmao Batman would never have to do any of the bullshit he did in this movie. He's literally a My Chemical Romance stan in the movie, it's so overly dramatic its pure cringe

[@joesalyers]

They tried to make Edward Nigma into Victor Zsasz, why not just use Victor Zsasz? Even my girlfriend who isn't a comic book fan but to get caught up on the Batman lore read a few comics said to me at the theater. This is nothing like the Riddler in the comic books this guy is more like the scared killer guy, she didn't know the name Victor Zsasz but knew the character was a serial killer. She had read the knightfall books and no mans land and nothing more. So even with that little of the Batman lore she knew the Riddler was out of place. She said it would have been better if she didn't know anything about Batman before watching the movie so that wouldn't have been a disappointment. But what can you do? I was only trying to help her get interested in the movie, because at first she didn't want to go see it and I didn't want to wait for a crappy home release.

[@devrayne6770]

It was a realistic take on riddler. This batman was supposed to be more ground which was why he didn't have the bat glide but more of a squirrel gliding suit

[@TheAnti-Lgtv]

Your whole Comment seems Like You never ever read Comics Of Batman💀

[@username-ew1de]

​​@@devrayne6770It's not really. Edward Ngyma is a narcissistic, egoistical genius that prouds himself way too much. We could easily have person like that in real life.

[@thebatfan4]

I so wanna see an Arkham style movie. Not actual Arkham game into movie but an actor that can pull of that kind of Batman persona.

[@excellence5144]

I want so badly for a Gotham and world that looks like the Arkham games and Tim Burtons films, but with the focus on character and themes of the Nolan films. So many good villians can't be done in hyper realism: Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Ra's(with Magic), Clayface etc.

[@richhomiecharles2698]

@@excellence5144y’all both need to stop lml not everything needs to be like Batman 89 and the Arkham games it’s okay for things to be different some change is good break out of the same mold both of you guys are in

[@ControllerAkimbo]

@@richhomiecharles2698 not everything needs to be nolan lite "realism" either

[@richhomiecharles2698]

@@ControllerAkimbo I agree

[@ryszakowy]

@@excellence5144 give freeze a bulky suit with blue LEDs and you have a freeze paint ivy green and use cgi for plants the problem isn't with realism it's with lack of imagination

[@nbarealtalker]

Your assessment is correct. This movie is objectively terrible and all I could do is laugh unintentionally throughout. The Bruce Wayne scenes are painful to endure and it easily should’ve been an hour shorter.

[@jonathanbeauchamp586]

an opinion is not objective.

[@nbarealtalker]

@@jonathanbeauchamp586 Alfred waking up in a hospital to Bruce arguing with him was objectively terrible. Batman and Gordon literally grumbly whispering the exposition back and forth to each other was objectively terrible. The mouth-breathing, climate activist inspired Riddler was terrible. The climax was terrible. Honestly I’d concede it might make it to 6/10 range if it wasn’t dragged out so long and if they brushed Bruce’s hair out of his eyes.

[@jonathanbeauchamp586]

@@nbarealtalker Again, your opinion.

[@JesusChristsDick]

@@jonathanbeauchamp586Welcome to the world of hyperbole you autistic bed wetter

[@JesusChristsDick]

I laughed so hard because so many scenes make more sense if you imagine Steven Seagal is playing Batman… Case and point, in the very beginning when Batman says the mayor’s thumb was cut off while he was still alive? WRONG. We were there, we witnessed the murder. Riddler bludgeoned him to death, and busted out the duct tape to display the body, and the mayor still had both thumbs. Batman pretending to be an expert by regurgitating crap he heard on CSI is very Seagal-esque

[@cashkam7794]

great vid and i respect the opinion but i’ll have to STRONGLY disagree with this take.

[@excellence5144]

Peace in our time...

[@cashkam7794]

@@excellence5144 lol yea man i don’t agree but i fw the vid lol i dropped you a like

[@j_4_k_33]

I'm pretty sure what happened is that they made Hush, but then named him The Riddler for some reason...like look it up, the character named Hush, he looks really close to this Riddler, have the same motivation, and does the same things. So that's one mistake.The other mistake is they switched Gordon's, and Alfred's characters. But the biggest problem is...making Catwoman short haired :D , why not keep that hair she had earlier, instead of making it a wig?But yeah, other than these things I actually liked the movie a lot, but I understand why you didn't like it.

[@CinemaKnight]

Having recently read Batman: Year One, they took almost the entirety of their Catwoman design from that book. I think it works better, honestly, cause just like it Year One, she’s presented as definitely femme, but just a tiny bit androgynous as a kind of self-expression, letting her stand out from other female characters in a way. Someone else could probably say this better, but that’s basically where I’m at.

[@beircheartaghaistin2332]

The title of the video is 'The Batman is overrated'... that doesn't mean he didn't like it or it was bad. It simply means that he is under the impression that the excessive dick riding is unwarranted. Which, I kinda agree with. I like the movie, but it ain't that good. There are many other films I'd rather watch over it.

[@TheAnti-Lgtv]

@@j_4_k_33 bro Catwoman Originally has Short Hair..Tf You are Saying?

[@LionLThePrince781]

@@TheAnti-LgtvWhen has she ever had short hair the Arkham games and when else? 😅

[@TomaszSoprano]

The Batman is Work of art. But i respect your opinion.

[@ItzSwizzy69]

literally been obsessed with batman right when the movie came out...

[@matthewandrews3883]

Just because people make "art" out of trash, doesn't mean it's still not hot garbage. It's garbage that's just shiny with a bow, disguised as "art".

[@strettoasino9006]

Does that make a exit sign...art if it's located in a Art Gallery, By your logic?

[@jso416]

The Batman is about a 6 out of 10. Anyone who thinks this movie is a work of art is an absolute 🤡 .

[@tricky7153]

@@jso416see there’s something called an opinion right?

[@erosion271]

You have the exact type of voice I expected you to have

[@jamess854]

I think the mood and atmosphere of the film is great. The pacing and the dialogue is what killed it for me. I don't mind slow paced movies, But this film just doesn't manage to ever have pacing that feels good. I think Robert was fine as Bruce, Wayne and batman. And Paul Dano is obviously just great in everything he's in. Soundtrack is fantastic too. It just doesn't come together.

[@anakarinabanana]

I’ve learned that the word “overrated” isn’t a fair way to criticize a film. It’s not the film’s fault the amount of people that praise it or hate it it gets. What matters is the film itself as a whole (story, dialogue, character development, music, cinematography, etc).

[@soowshh1529]

Yeah some films are good but people put high expectations on it that it couldn’t deliver

[@gabrielwillames]

The amount of people saying this movie is 10/10 is tragic tho. A movie with nice takes but so many strong flaws yet people choose to be blind. I don't understand 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@thequinlanshow3326]

All of those things you listed are highly disappointing in this movie, compare this movie to The Dark Knight or even Batman Begins and it makes this movie look even worse.

[@plasticweapon]

it's O V E R R A T E D. more than any film in recent history (except for joker).

[@rakama9353]

Finally someone who had the same opinion like me

[@user-jj5pm4xo6n]

I never saw this movie, but when i saw what the "riddler" looked like i knew this wasnt the masterpiece people claimed it was.

[@marchionessamoretto7326]

You are missing out. The Riddler is more grounded and doesn't act like a clown stealing "brainwaves and information" from Batman Forever.

[@user-jj5pm4xo6n]

@@marchionessamoretto7326 im ok with a darker riddler but i think he kills politicians in the movie.the riddler doesnt care about politics,he either wants to kill batman,or prove he is smarter than everyone else.i think a darker riddler is a cool concept but they missed the mark a little bit.

[@marchionessamoretto7326]

@@user-jj5pm4xo6n what do you mean by "missing the mark" ? Explain to me. And he doesn't kill Batman because the Riddler felt inspired by him. Thank you for your reply.

[@user-jj5pm4xo6n]

@@marchionessamoretto7326 the Riddler in most media wants to prove how smart he is,or in some cases he has a personal hatred for batman.Riddler is an attention seeker that likes to toy with his victims just to prove how smart he is.The Riddler does become the Riddler because of batman but he doesnt feel inspired by him,he just wants a bigger challenge than the cops at the GCPD.

[@marchionessamoretto7326]

@@user-jj5pm4xo6n you are 90% correct.

[@TheAnti-Lgtv]

I Hardly Disagree With Your Opinion

[@Samonti-ns6od]

Hardly Disagree however Respect your opinion

[@windowsVD]

That means you don’t disagree much.

[@abs51493]

@@windowsVD or it means that they are simply respectful

[@desmondslater]

@@abs51493 right😂 like wtf?

[@windowsVD]

@@abs51493 I know what he meant, I’m simply pointing out the misuse of words. If you “hardly disagree” with something, then it means that you almost don’t disagree with it

[@thequinlanshow3326]

So you agree? Lmao dummy

[@daviahnthrasher72]

Average Movie?!? Yahhh I’m not watching this. Is that ignorant of me? Yah, it is.

[@EmperorGuyver]

It is average and completely misses the point of Batman/Bruce Wayne

[@Sketchisawesome]

Can't spell ignorant without ign

[@orange5719]

This is a really respectfully take that I disagree with. The riddlers whole point is that he’s a nobody that everyone forgot about and that they remember all the rich people. He wanted attention. Also the only scene that felt too long is the one with Bruce whining to Alfred about his parents, this movie was paced really well. Everything about preference relating to comics or other movies I can really disagree with because it’s your opinion. (I’m too lazy to be extra specific about your takes) Everything else I do agree with I hope joker never becomes a main villain.

[@matthewandrews3883]

If they forgot about him that would imply that he was once a somebody. you can't forget about nobody if they don't exist to you.

[@altaafkhan]

Actually Riddler and the people who were supporting him were suffering from poverty no one cared about them, even politicians didn't helped them because politicians were corrupted.

[@EmperorGuyver]

Yet that misses the point of The Riddler

[@altaafkhan]

@@EmperorGuyver Actually Riddler and the people who were supporting him were suffering from poverty no one cared about them, even politicians didn't helped them because politicians were corrupted. You didn't understood this movie because you are dumb, this movie is not for action lovers like you because this movie has mystry, suspense not action.

[@EmperorGuyver]

@@altaafkhan "mystry" "suspense" The only thing mysterious or suspenseful about this movie is how blatantly dumb this Batman is. You don't even "understood" how to form an actual sentence, not surprised you're an overly obsessed fanbot over an average movie with the worst Batman on screen since Clooney.

[@bdukes8075]

The Batman was boring I hated it and I really wanted to like it. I watched it a few times kept falling asleep

[@juanitajones6900]

It felt as if Reeves had incorporated some of the elements from past Batman productions and meshed them together in this film. Especially story elements from Chris Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy and the "Gotham" TV show.

[@soldier2262]

Disagree The Batman is a masterpiece and i will defend it in every cost

[@jonfreeman9682]

Masterpiece might be a stretch but it's the grittiest most realistic take and true noir detective. It's not really a superhero movie in the traditional sense. A moody drama piece like Joker. The ending was flat though.

[@m4sterpolk786]

The Batman is a masterpiece just for people in need, so a mid-good movie looks great

[@blueconvoy976]

I respectfully disagree. As a batman fan I can honestly say that this film is exactly what I wanted from a batman film.and the fiddler is a really integral part of the film as well as the point he's trying to make (that he's a nobody and everyone just forgot about him and that only people care about people with power) he's a damaged genius who wants attention as shown in the interrogation scene in arkham. You also assume that Falcone killed the Wayne's which is wrong, since alfred says it could have been anyone. And Falcone should not be a villain in a batman film, he isn't big enough a threat as the rest of batman's rogues gallery. And the point they made pattinson batman for the entire movie is to show, and he'll probably build up the bruce wayne persona in the sequel.

[@lacapone7551]

Terrible movie yk I’m right

[@wilsonwade6361]

@@lacapone7551 yeah if you're got the attention span of a toddler

[@blueconvoy976]

@@wilsonwade6361 good one

[@bruv8801]

@@lacapone7551 You are not. It's your opinion and your opinion isn't a fact. The movie is incredible. The majority of the people agree.

[@thequinlanshow3326]

Literally the second Paul Dano gets arrested the movie grinds to a halt and the Riddler falls off the deep end.

[@illuminatidad]

Thank you! I felt the exact same way about the movie, and was confused about why everyone liked it so much, while here I was a big Batman fan that didn’t enjoy it.

[@_sevenrosee]

It seems like both me and the majority of people couldn’t disagree more with your take, but aye your opinion.

[@damiantirado9616]

This just shows the average movie goer doesn’t know what makes a good movie

[@damiantirado9616]

@@cotopaximusic so people who say that superheroes are for children have bad taste? Lol keep coping kid. And stop projecting we all know you don’t have any logical arguments

[@BiFive_]

@@damiantirado9616 I mean critics also gave it favorable reviews so I guess only you guys know what makes a good movie? lol

[@damiantirado9616]

@@BiFive_ most critics gave it a kid score 60-70. And a lot of critics love trash movies, just look at how they loved ghostbusters 2016 reboot. Also it’s funny how when critics don’t agree with you, you trash them but when they do it’s the opposite.

[@BiFive_]

@@damiantirado9616 I don't like Ghostbusters 2016, and every single critic isn't writing reviews for every single movie. I agree with some critics and disagree with others for one movie, and the next movie may be vice versa, or not. That's how that works. I'm not going to agree with everyone and we can both be right within in our differences about the same subject, or both be wrong. BUT this guy just has missed so much of what this movie is going for and passes it off as being bored when really his critique is that the story wasn't spoon fed to him thru 2 hours of exposition and narration. And if we're looking at metacritic most of the favorable reviews were in the 80's and above. People who liked this movie REALLY liked it, and then there are people who hated and/or didnt care about it and who's main critiques are "not fun enough" which sure this I can at least see from other people's perspective. This isn't a "fun" movie. Its stressful and gnawing and grim. Its about trauma and people's ability and inability to grow past it, how society fails its children and how the children move forward from there; with vengeance or with hope? Can things change if we ourselves don't, and is violence the only option against the wave of rampant crime? This is what I gathered from this movie. It's so funny that he critiques the movie for not having more action scenes and then also is like "I'm glad this movie shows that crime and violence is bad, because the i think the woke mob thinks differently," when a point of the movie is that Batman being EXCLUSIVELY and INDISCRIMINATELY violent to criminals hurts victims as well and isn't helping Gotham. I liked the movie for its messaging, but i also see that the pacing was sometimes off and that the Riddles were easy, but I liked the Riddler's performance still and am glad that he'll likely come back later. This movie is far from perfect and I would definitely stray away from calling a Masterpiece overall, definitely a really good 7 or 8 to me, but I rate things pretty harshly (my 5/10 is a fair and alright movie, like most of the MCU's movies), and I'm 100% biased in my opinions for things, especially as it pertains to art, but I at least try to see where other people come from or see what a director or writer were trying to do. I think Matt Reeves does a really good job here with handling the growth of a "younger" and still traumatized and insecure Bruce Wayne. I think Excellence really missed what the movie was going for and from what I can tell, even if we like the same movies, I don't see eye to eye with what he's pulling his joy or his critiques from.

[@PerfectTroy1]

Dude, your comments are exactly why I didn't like The Joker movie: there's no way that Joker could ever be Batman's nemesis.

[@ICreatedU1]

Agreed. Any incarnation of the Batman would just pick up that Joker by the hair and throw him in the recycling bin. The joker works as a character study of some random crazy dude, but not as the origin story of Batman's most iconic nemesis.

[@theelectricprince8231]

Something is in the water to make people think this movie is a masterpiece. The movie did not leave any impression on me, it was forgettable. The Dark Knight is league's ahead of this movie.

[@anselmusdersalamander3626]

Totally overrated movie. The main goal of the riddler is to fight corruption, politicians, police. And then his final attack is flooding the city and kill normal people and children. Stupid and not logical. And the Batman changes from vengeance to „nice guy“ in the final scenes, when he „saves“ a group of people that stand in 3 foot deep water. No threat, no danger. He just leads some people out of a hall. That‘s it. This final scene is so boring and ridicoulus, I can‘t believe they wrote this story like that.

[@jobeauchamp7438]

also, who does not know Batman's origin? it's almost 85 years old. If you don't know it, it's completely on you

[@jackmclaughlin9602]

Personally I’d say it’s the 3rd best Batman movie. My list is: 1. The Dark Knight 2. Batman Begins 3. The Batman 4. The Dark Knight Rises 5. Batman 6. Batman: The Movie 7. Batman Returns 8. Dawn of Justice 9. Batman Forever 10. Batman and Robin The Batman excelled on story, acting, atmosphere and music. I like that Batman made mistakes (eg. not checking where the photos could have been taken). There was stuff I didn’t like such as Bruce Wayne being an emo who doesn’t consider Alfred his father (doing something different isn’t inherently bad or good but it needs to be done well), Bruce and Alfred didn’t have enough scenes, I don’t think Batman’s arc of realising he needed to be more than vengeance was done well, the “we don’t all work for you” scene was awesome but there’s not enough set up and it feels that it comes out of nowhere. Overall it’s still a strong 8/10.

[@jameslauder3984]

This movie was sooooooo boring

[@nightrydergaming2745]

The batman is a masterpeice. All the characters are well crafted. Batman is actually the main character. Riddler is one of the best villains. The story is very well thought out and the atmosphere is amazing. I couldn't disagree with these arguments anymore

[@crossfire6558]

I have just one simple problem with this film, just one. It is tooooooooo ......... realistic, again.

[@EmperorGuyver]

It's not even realistic. The whole plot exists because the GCPD and Batman are practically useless. Batman would've ended this movie after an hour but because they downgraded his intelligence it went for 3 hours

[@crossfire6558]

@@EmperorGuyver yo. Such crimes in real life will take six months to one year to solve. Batman here did it in just 6 days. That is not downgrading his intelligence yo. Or you expect him to be arkham batman to solve everything in one night? It is definitely more realistic than that and dceu batman and other batman movies. When I say realistic. I meant, how his suit his put together, how they interact with eachother, the limits of a human...etc. If it is complete realistism, there wont be a batman, and that was not what I meant by "realistic".

[@crossfire6558]

@@EmperorGuyver "practically" useless. There you go, you said not even realistic, and you said "practically". Where are you standing? In real life, a guy dressed in a halloween costume is useless to the law LOL!! That is realistic.

[@EmperorGuyver]

@@crossfire6558 Practically Definition: virtually; almost Seems you only remember 1 part of the definition. And yes his intelligence was downgraded, these riddles were simple as fuk and were only hard because of the deciphering. Batman would've cleared these in much lees time than 6 days... Took him 6 DAYS!! In that time Riddler could've already executed his plan and Gotham would be screwed. And if we're talking realistic with Batman and cops, they police themselves are useless so a caped crusader wouldn't be much more damaging. But I'm tired of realistic Batman too, everyone wants to make him grounded but ignore how that limits the stories they could do.

[@crossfire6558]

@@EmperorGuyver yeah realistic batman is boring.

[@DadeHudson93]

Honestly this was just a modern take on Batman begins without the childhood Origin, better fight scenes and cinematography. Personally I'm tired of watching Batman take on street level threats or his typical, grounded in reality type villains. I was much more looking forward to Ben affleck's script with him going up against Deathstroke, or having him be more intuitively challenged by the court of owls. As amazing as parts of this film were, it wasn't far from what we've already seen.

[@cotopaximusic]

@gibramrivera8863 tell me you didn't actually watch the movie without telling me you didn't actually watch the movie

[@nowonprzn7442]

@Son Of Dante he literally does no detective work he literally just get told to go places so shit can get explained to him. the few word puzzles he does solve were shit middle schoolers ask each other.

[@PersonHuman-xf9rt]

I hate how forced the relationship between batman and Selina is, it really annoyed me.

[@Itsmichaelcarroll]

Seems like you went in expecting TDK 2.0. Pretty much all your critiques were just comparisons to TDK. But the reason most of us think this is a masterpiece is bc its different from TDR and its never been done in this style/interpretation.

[@GoFartherPodcast]

In fairness, I DON’T think it’s the GREATEST Batman movie ever. I do think that on the whole it’s VERY solid & good

[@UltraZanderPrime]

I am one of the biggest Batman fan in the world… I loved all Batman movie even Clooney’s Batman and Robin… I love all animated series… and I have alot of Batman toys… but man, when I watched this movie in cinema… I was fighting my eyes to open… then I fell asleep in a few seconds.. so when it was released in digital, I watched it again… and I was bored and fell asleep… oh my… this movie ruined Batman for me.

[@VusitakethepicMak]

The point where i gave up on this movie as being a batman detective film was when he didn't know what a carpet lifter was and had to be told by a cop for him to realize the riddlers true plan. We went through over 2hrs of cat and mouse all for that to be the big missing piece.The worlds greatest detective didn't know what was a carpet lifter. Isn't this man supposed to be on the levels of Sherlock Holmes in terms of IQ and general knowledge, never mind this is a bad portrayal of batman year one. You telling me he also was still gaining intelligence and knowledge. Maybe his still learning to be wise but you telling me straight up general knowledge got him stumped.Cinematography of this movie was excellent but in terms of a story,pacing and just a batman movie it fails hard. It showed nothing of Batman true abilities other than to endure. Something everyone that truly knows batman, the comics, the animated series and movies had to learn the hard way to watch this boring ass movie.

[@danahousley-preaster2865]

Batffleck's warehouse fight still is the best. and what made him an icon

[@JohnnyDollar720]

I agree 100%. It's a shame it wasn't in the theatrical cut

[@taraishot100]

Though that scene was good it didn’t make him an icon he still sucks as Batman!

[@danahousley-preaster2865]

@taraishot100 don't care who the actor is. The scene. And he ( version) was everything we invisioned Batman to be. He was big 6'4" 220-240...massive man that when he stood there you felt the intimidation factor. No other Batman made you feel like oh crap..he looks like he can beat up 8 men. Again forget disliking Affleck. Look at the overall and scene.

[@thestrong2401]

Too bad that Batman is a killer or it would have been a perfect live action version of the character

[@JohnnyDollar720]

@@thestrong2401 That was the point. An older jaded Batman who had lost his way. Was supposed to be an arc of redemption. But the nerds bitched and couldn't handle it.

[@fanta_claws]

In other words "i have a very bad taste in movies"

[@AndoBobando]

bingo

[@rzn2258]

No.. YOU have very bad taste in movies. You wanna see a real detective masterpiece ? Go watch the movie Se7en. THAT'S A TRUE FU#KING MASTERPIECE

[@fanta_claws]

@@rzn2258 yeah, cry about that i don't care about your opinion 🤡

[@Prodbyjah464]

God no

[@rzn2258]

@@fanta_claws Then you wouldn't have wasted your time responding back , mor0n.

[@delonsoedwards8092]

Took me three times to finish this long, boring movie. When I ask people about it, they mindlessly quote the director, "It's noir. It's detective Batman ." No, it was boring.

[@michaelbarnes2126]

This movie put me to sleep….twice. I agree with everything you said. Nolan’s movies are superior

[@desmondslater]

Some of the things this guy said makes me think he's a 12 year old. The thing he said about action and marvel fans was really childish to say

[@supercoffeemug1921]

The Batman sucked first Batman is supposed to be a genius and this movie made him look like a moron Alfred solved his case batman had no clue.

[@Alessandrosaiyan]

Totally agree I almost fell asleep in the theater. And the same happened months later at home… Fucking pointless

[@StanvilleBrown]

I I think you've got it confused with Batman and Robin!

[@joshuasimber8588]

I thought the movie was bad, but not awful. Great elements like the cinematography, the intro, it's well filmed. Things that were poor were dialogue, writing, plot (didn't ultimately make sense), we don't need to see Bruce Wayne on a 15 minute slow walk through a club to talk to Falcone, some of it just felt like a long Nirvana video.

[@americanspectrum8526]

Finally someone said it! People just like to suck it off cuz it’s different.

[@KBXband]

I liked this version of the Riddler because he actually seems like an actual threat as opposed to the non threatening over the top Carrey or Gorshin. It was someone who was challenging Batman's intellect. Frankly I would rather watch a boring superhero movie than one that makes me cringe. This was pretty good. Not my favorite but far from my least favorite.

[@DrFrankNStein-sf2ww]

The best Riddler is the one from the series Gotham.

[@travisjames5]

Thank you for this. People love the teenage emo batman aspect of robert pattinsons portral of batman. But it is no where close to what/who Batman or Bruce is for that matter.

[@chrismcgill9812]

I don’t think they were necessarily going for emo look I think Robert Pattinson just has that look his self and we will see more of Bruce Wayne this was the first movie of a trilogy

[@TheAnti-Lgtv]

Bro Its For Reak Year 2 Batman And It Makes sense for Him beinh depressed Your Criticisms are so Wrong

[@travisjames5]

@@TheAnti-Lgtv before the time bruce becomes batman he is not depressed. He has overcome his emotions with logic and reason. He forms a plan and becomes the knight.

[@javierlopez9789]

@@TheAnti-Lgtv year 2 batman already had Robin and social life stablished, this movie makes it seem as If he is week 2 batman. It makes absolutely no sense no one can guess he is Bruce Wayne, you know the emo weirdo With a lot of resources who doesnt have any social life style.

[@robertprice5243]

...idk... They kind of changed who Batman even is...he's two different people... He acts the same way for both... batmans batman first/acts when Bruce Wayne... They didn't even bother with one of the most important character traits of the character

[@ral3514]

I'm glad this popped into my feed. I totally agree. I watched it on streaming and it took me 3 watchings to make it through this movie and I finished it just to say I watched it

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

Thank you. This movie is so bland. I really don’t get all the “it’s so great” at all. Because they threw a voice over and he (sort of) uses detective skills? It’s literally just the Nolan trilogy condensed into one film. With some incredibly ham fisted “character growth” at the end.

[@avace917]

I'm with you one THOUSAND percent. Same situation. Had to start it over 3 times before I did a straight watch through. I would've been pissed had I gone to the theater to see it because I probably would've fallen asleep.

[@thedarkknight5239]

@@avace917 MCU bot

[@thedarkknight5239]

@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore you probably think Thor love and thunder was a masterpiece

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

@@thedarkknight5239 😂🤣 ☠️. Damn…..that’s harsh!

[@creategreatness8823]

I had never really caught onto the fact that this film does offer VERY little context for Batman and why he is how he is. It is like this film ASSUMES that you've seen Batman Begins, or read Batman Year One...and automatically assume that you know Batman's origin, why he fights crime and why he became Batman specifically. It's quite odd. It's like this is the sequel to an origin story we never got to see.

[@jaybyhop]

I did not find anything enjoyable about this movie. Felt like a script that just had to be fit to have Batman in it. It didnt even feel like a batman movie.

[@shortsnquotes]

Pattinson Batman ,wasn't intimidating at all, his Bruce Wayne looks like an angry Chandler Bing. When he was walking into automatic gun fire, why didn’t they shoot his exposed face? I give the cinematography, 9 out of 10 and I like the color grading.

[@Diehardstlcardinalsfan]

Let’s be real …. These are writers / directors adaptations on these heroes Just like comics there is various takes on our beloved superheroes out there and we can either take them or leave them when is fine … This gentleman producing this video has his take on “what he wants in a superhero movie “ some of yall will agree and some of yall will not plain and simple I’m in the middle because I enjoy seeing different takes on our heroes as long as it’s good take on them and not crap Also side note …. Mcu didn’t create the post credit scene lol. Might have made it famous but they didn’t make it … it was done before them .

[@vladimirvilliani6732]

This is one of the worst movies I have ever seen in my entire life.

[@daygon128]

I agree with this almost entirely. This is the most boring superhero film I've ever seen, but it is one of the most beautiful at the same time. Scenes are shot incredibly well but drone on way too long. Characters are miscast (catwoman, Falcone, Gordon, the Riddler, and Gollum, I mean Alfred GTFO), and I don't go to see a superhero film to be preached to by a racist about my non-existent white privilege. It's supposed to be escapism, something that millennials, for some reason since 9/11 do not understand. It's no wonder the reviews on this film are so mixed. That being said I do like Pattinson as Batman. It's just not a good film.

[@excellence5144]

Escapism has escaped modern movie making

[@ivoryas1696]

I don't even agree with all your points, _nor_ did I actually know it was three hours, but I actually like this critique. It actually made me see some things I felt without having internalized, and some things _I _*_didn't_* see. _Heck_ of a lot more enjoyable than someone coming along and calling it garbage, lol.

[@louisblackforester]

I hate The Patman with passion ! Pattinson + Batman = Patman or Patchwork + Batman = Patman

[@BigFatMonkey9629]

I did not watch this movie, I kind of regret it, I did not know much of what was going on with dc at the time and thought it was in the DCAU, so I thought it would be shit, after watching some scenes I think I was wrong

[@Nathaniel_B400]

I am one of the people that truly believes Snyder’s DC should be the main DC, and even I have to say that The Batman is a masterpiece, and one of the greatest movies of the last decade.

[@namehereandthere]

You keep using that word, but I don’t think you know what it means. It’s pretty good, but sure as #$&$ it’s no “masterpiece”. It’s far from perfect. SEE MORE FILMS.

[@Hoopsforlife11]

@@namehereandthere it is a masterpiece everything i want from batman a dark movie without batman killing and when bruce try’s to be like his old self he can’t and it’s really powerful 9.5/10

[@joshuasimber8588]

​​@@Hoopsforlife11 you want to watch Bruce Wayne on a 15 minute slow walk to talk to Falcone about his dad? Dialogue was weak, writing was weak, and the plot was terrible and made no sense. It's basically just a 3hr Nirvana music video

[@geordiemc4571]

@@joshuasimber8588 just stick to the generic superhero action movies joshua, sounds like an attention span issue

[@joshuasimber8588]

@Geordie mc no it just needs more substance

[@alazul14]

The moment i hear your voice, i was like "this is exactly what i expected" You miss so many points of the movie, and thats either because you dont get it, or yoh get some other idea instead. Movie is partly to blame, yes, but when you upload 40 mins video of misunderstanding the movie, it's mainly on you I'll just do 1 example, so it wont be a long essay. You saying the ending is just batman drifting away from selina is a representation of him choosing gotham over his own happiness. Remember she asks him to tag along to bludhaven. But he chooses to deal with half-flooded gotham, going to the call from the batsignal, but with different mindset now. He now sees that batman can be a hero, which is what he is in case people think he's some vigilante working in the shadow. Thats progression, closed by a definite conclusion. That ending signifies the 1st step of his journey as a hero, instead of a crusade of vengeance that he's been on for 2 years d calling it "i guess thats it" is

[@GoddessWhoUsedToKnowToMuch]

Says the guy who can't even talk at a consist volume.

[@NERDYB4ITWASCOOLTV]

Overrated = It's good but not THAT good lol. Regardless it's a good movie

[@ryanward2751]

Imagine putting together 40 minutes of absolute diarrhea and have no idea how the character works. We all waste our time somehow. I’m just glad I didn’t waste mine with this video.

[@Chrisezo]

Finally, someone else that gets it. I also have been sick and tired of people hyping this new movie, and then some folks actually have the audacity to compare it to all the previous movies, some even saying that somehow its just way better than all the others before it, when the reality is that they’re just blind and not being analytical about the movie. Like you I was also interested when the movie started, and they started doing some actual investigative police work, it gave me the impression that it was going to be one of those crime drama movies, where you would be able to see how Batman fully worked, and maybe even be given the chance to solve the crimes and mysteries alongside him, as clues and leads were provided during the film, but we all know that the movie did not become that type of film. I found it extremely frustrating, that they kept saying within the movie how this Batman was so smart, and how he was such good help to the police, where Jim Gordon actually had him interfere with investigations and stuff, when in all the things that I saw during the film, they never fully demonstrated that, whenever there were riddles and that kind of stuff, this Batman pulled stuff out of his ass and never explained how he even got to those answers, all in the name of just moving the movie forward making it very unnatural, and then the super cringy scenes, such as the ones with the thumb drive or the URL one had me wanting to quit the movie, because I can’t believe they thought they could get away with such puns, that just made Jim Gordon look like a total dumbass, when he’s supposed to be a good cop that knows a lot, which is why Batman trusts him with his back, which is another thing I hated about this film, this movie is supposed to be pretty much Batman after his initial years in Gotham, so he’s supposed to be a total noob and it was shown somewhat, but if that’s the case then how come he’s all chummy with Gordon, they acted like if they were partners in a buddy cop movie, but Batman hasn’t been around for that long, so it feels like its really undeserved and out of place, they should have made it that he actually wins Gordon’s trust during the movie, it would have felt more natural and not out of place. I also didn’t like how Batman pretty much behaved, like just some random guy in the street with a costume, because of how he was always walking around and being super loud, just like in the fight scene with the thugs where he actually walked up to them and said he was vengeance, and then later in the club scene with the Penguin, he actually knocked on the door for the club expecting to be let in, when he’s supposed to know because its common sense, that they weren’t just going to let a vigilante in like that. Then there was the characterization, I know that Batman is supposed to do a lot of brooding, and he’s supposed to be the guy that always says that he works alone and that kind of stuff, but damn this has to be like the most depressing version of Batman I have seen so far, and not only that but he was an asshole to boot too, mainly because of the way how he treated Alfred like garbage, the one man who was always there for him, and during the whole movie was actually trying to be supportive of him, but when he gets blown up and ends up at a hospital bed, this Batman actually mistreats Alfred with the first thing he does, after his butler was waking up from a near death experience, he actually tells Alfred that he’s a freaking liar and starts a big fight, instead of the first thing being showing concern for his dear father figure. Then there was how he was basically pushed around and used by basically everyone, because Jim Gordon used Batman for all the investigations, Catwoman used Batman multiple times in the movie, and even the Riddler was basically playing with him like a Fiddle, when Batman should have been smarter than that and should have known better than to trust people, especially when some of those people are villains, and he even gave his important gear to Catwoman and even made her a big accomplice in a part of his investigations, where his only lead depended on a complete stranger, that he basically just met who had previously gotten him in trouble with thugs, and then he actually acts surprised when she doesn’t act as part of the plan and goes rogue, like Batman is not supposed to be this naïve or dumb even if he’s supposed to be a noob at being Batman, it was only almost at the end of the movie where he actually started acting like a Batman should. The last thing in regards to the movie I would say has to do with the actors they chose, the only ones that were truly decent had been Alfred and the Penguin, because everyone else looked either overacted or underacted, and they didn’t even fit the character’s image itself, Robert Pattinson was super out of shape instead of being in peak human condition as a Batman in his prime would have been, Selina Kyle didn’t look like the bombshell lady she should have been, in almost all of the interpretations of Catwoman, she’s supposed to be one of the sexiest ladies around, which is one of the reasons she’s able to get away with so much, since she uses seduction as one of her strongest skillsets, but the actor wasn’t able to convey any of that since she just looked like your average lady, and then for me Jim Gordon didn’t look like Jim Gordon, he just looked more like a Baxter Stockman from TMNT, and he was basically Batman’s sidekick or partner instead of being the actual police commissioner. The movie just has too many flaws, and I find it unacceptable, because they had so many previous films, or even the animated series from which there are many of them out there, for them to take a look at for reference but they still made so many mistakes and delivered such a poor-quality film. All the previous Batman films have been pretty memorable, all of the Nolan movies have very quotable lines, but I always have to think pretty hard regarding this last film because it is pretty forgettable.

[@excellence5144]

Thank you for taking your time to write this lengthy comment. I agree with alot of your sentiments.

[@matthewandrews3883]

I heard a statement about Raiders of the Lost Ark from Big Bag Theory that said the movie works without the main character. If you were to take Indy out of Raiders it doesn't change the plot or the movie at all. I kind of feel the same about this movie. If you take Batman our of it nothing really changes. The police were working on the riddles, the mayor still died, the penguin wasn't captured, the Riddler turned himself in, the flood still happened. So what did Batman actually do to movie the plot forward?

[@theofficialvernetheturtley338]

He saved a bunch of people from drowning.

[@matthewandrews3883]

He was walking through the water. Anyone else could've done the same. There were also firefighters and cops there doing the same thing. So what's your point?

[@theofficialvernetheturtley338]

@@matthewandrews3883 Well, he specifically moved rubble and lit a flare to guide the way. Not to mention, your entire point falls apart. Ready to hear why: If Batman wasn't present Selina would have died, Falcone wouldn't have been arrested, and he'd never be killed. Not to mention, he'd go into hiding due to the flood and still be in power, eliminating Riddler's whole plan. Oh sure she'd kill Kenzie, but who cares? He can buy new lackeys. And, Riddler would have never been arrested since the police weren't there with Batman to arrest Falcone, and his plan would have changed drastically, with him having to go up above Gotham Square Garden with his goons. Not to mention, Bella Real would have been shot by Riddler's goons and Riddler's plan would have succeeded. Oh, and also, if Batman wasn't there, Riddler wouldn't exist! Gotham wouldn't change. Batman inspired Riddler, so without Batman, there's no fucking movie. Maybe don't get ideas from Big Bang Theory. It never makes you look smart.

[@purpsensei271]

I agree that it could’ve and was expecting it to be better and it did have some things I really didn’t like but overall I enjoyed the movie not as much as I did the first time I watched it but yea the film isn’t bad 7.5 8/ 10 it really could’ve been way better if it had more action and better pacing. The script is a 7/10. Overall a good 8.

[@thinkinyblinko6666]

Agreed. It was absolute schlock like everything else hollywood shat out in the last 20 years.

[@DMAN590]

The Film was nearly complete Garbage, I was hoping ppl would take off the rose tinted glasses as time passed.

[@kyleg1464]

Thank you so much for this. I thought I was crazy for not being over the moon about The Batman the way others seem to be.

[@EatWave]

That is always the downside to going back to the well so many times. There are only so many interpretations that one can give before the core of the character is completely betrayed or outright abandoned, defeating the purpose of a corporation holding onto a copyright for so long. If they have to change a character from top to bottom to keep them fresh, then they need not have gone to court to change the law so they could extend their copyright exclusivity for roughly one century per intellectual property. Not only will this come across as "The Dark Knight but lesser in every respect", there will likely be a few more like it before Batman lapses into the Public Domain.

[@lukeluke333lukeluke]

I really enjoyed the movie on my first viewing but I was also really disappointing by the third act. I didn't like the twist with Riddler. Would made since if they made him Hush and that would've worked brilliantly if that's what they did. It has interesting ideas. There's a lot I like. Loved the portrayal of Gotham. Most of my problems is the twist and third act. I'm still interested to see what they do in the second movie.

[@Psilocybin77]

As someone who studied English and creative writing, this film felt like it was yet another film written by AI. I do think audiences have been conditioned to think "barely competent" is the hallmark of quality.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

What bothers me the most is how creatively dead it is, treading on old waters by previous Batman films. A triangle between Batman, Catwoman and Penguin ? Batman Returns The villain being after every rich crook in Gotham who wronged them in the past ? Mask of The Phantasm An early years/Year One-ish origin story ? Batman Begins There are isolated things I like about it like it being a more procedural crime story with actual investigation, the more down-and-dirty feel of an inexperienced Batman, the Riddler being such a 'tistic stereotype. But then we have too much raceswap (I'm fine with Jeffrey Wright as Gordon, but I really don't care for Zoe Kravitz as Selina), some really on the nose pandering like her rant about "rich white males" and the mayor candidate being an AOC stand-in, and I'm getting tired of the Penguin being portrayed as a generic mobster ever since the Arkham games. If they could somehow double down on the good stuff, introduce Mr Freeze or Hush or the Court of Owls, or come up with a good version of Robin (of which there were some talks), fine. But I don't trust them....

[@bruszli1255]

I knew this movie wont be as good as i wish it would be the moment the leaks started to drop from the production,reports were already telling me this will be a mess reshoots/sex scandals lots of fiascos behind the scenes yet people are praising this Batman movie,as long as they would say it was okay,i would agree with that but the moment they dropping shit like:"its the best,its far better than Nolan's Batman etc"Thats where i come in and ask,are you okay?Cause it can be your favorite Batman movie and still acknowledge the fact that there are better Batman adaptations than this !!

[@sebastianrivera9537]

Lil Bill: How the Batman fixed what TheDarkNight created Check that essay out

[@jaredstonebraker7466]

Average indeed

[@m4sterpolk786]

This movie shows to us that the Marvel Zombielization Audience has came to DC too. This movie is mediocre at best. For every good part in the plot there is a fucking bad non sense choice to hide them. But people enjoyed this movie, just because its Batman. If you cut the Batman participation in the movie, the events would happen the same way