The Battle of Lake Trasimene (217 B.C.E.)

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Historia Civilis

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Music is Beethoven's Sonata No. 07 in D Major, Op. 10 No. 3 - I. Presto, performed by Daniel Veesey.

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@somewony
@somewony 9 жыл бұрын
"The current consuls are idiots! Vote for me!" /gets elected/ /proceeds to march an army single file along a narrow path without sending scouts/
@Jatischar
@Jatischar 8 жыл бұрын
+somewony politicians being politicians, that never changed I guess :D
@asserius9058
@asserius9058 8 жыл бұрын
+somewony Sounds pretty similar to modern politics...
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 8 жыл бұрын
"You see the Romans hated scouting. They thought it was kind of boring" ..... O_O ..... O_o .... I just... what the... seriously?
@JohnSmith-dz2dc
@JohnSmith-dz2dc 8 жыл бұрын
By watching these videos, it makes me question how Rome became an empire in the first place
@doid3r4s
@doid3r4s 8 жыл бұрын
Hannibal was the Bogeyman of an entire Roman generation.
@hastalamuertesiempre4895
@hastalamuertesiempre4895 8 жыл бұрын
""Hannibal was tapdancing across Italy, setting fire to everything." Subscribed.
@alessandrorotta
@alessandrorotta 8 жыл бұрын
I live in a city in Tuscany, central Italy, called Arezzo. At that time the region was called Etruria and the city was called Arretium and it was the place where the four legions of Gaius Phlaminius were based just before the battle. Some day in June 217 b.C. these legions departed from here and marched on the road along the Chiana valley for a few dozens miles, they passed the etruscan city of Cortona and shortly after they turned left and moved towards Perusia along the northern shore of lake Trasimeno, where they were ambushed. I've travelled the same road many times...
@johnmatrix7809
@johnmatrix7809 8 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, man
@MesserMorfeo
@MesserMorfeo 8 жыл бұрын
Every time I drive along that road, I remind this battle. Gosh, Hannibal was a genius.
@Skull_Gun
@Skull_Gun 9 жыл бұрын
1 Roman survivor downvoted this
@lazios
@lazios 8 жыл бұрын
+J amie 1 Roman survivor downvoted this No.. Romans survivor continued to fight and delete Carthage from the face of Earth.
@PMMagro
@PMMagro 8 жыл бұрын
Given the victories of Hannibal it is amzing how strong Rome was. Coming back again and again despite terrbile losses. For sure Rome was loads stronger than Carthege to begin with....
@MetaltronNorwood
@MetaltronNorwood 8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Magro The thing with Rome was that it used a levy system, which meant that there was a massive amount of troops. It was a culture where combat was glorified, and most people had equipment. They basically managed to survive this defeat by basically having an enourmous recruitment pool. Meanwhile the Carthaginians were a naval trading power, who used mercenaries and allies to fight their battles for them. They didn't use this levy system, so hard a much smaller recruitment pool to draw from.
@hagukww
@hagukww 8 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of these battle breakdown videos from other famous commanders like Napoleon, Belisarius or admiral Yi :)
@kubikubikubikubi
@kubikubikubikubi 9 жыл бұрын
Hey you missed an opportunity to do the Battle of Waterloo on the 200 year anniversary. Maybe in the future?
@tytube3001
@tytube3001 9 жыл бұрын
Kubilay Ozdil we don't care about toilets
@ShowTheOreo
@ShowTheOreo 8 жыл бұрын
These battle videos are perfect, I would love to see more. Dropped a big fat like for you my man
@chugster3
@chugster3 8 жыл бұрын
Man i Wish i had found your channel earlier. As a larp commander, i absolutely love this. Please keep up your work, man, these videos are amazinhg. Cheers from brazil!
@Drew15000
@Drew15000 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these
@wrekone
@wrekone 9 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I've watched them all and thoroughly enjoyed every one.
@DcIxvi
@DcIxvi 9 жыл бұрын
Please do more battles...these videos are so well done!
@alexcala3428
@alexcala3428 9 жыл бұрын
cheers!lookin forward to see the next one
@chickenfingers991
@chickenfingers991 9 жыл бұрын
I liked the old music, it sounded more intense.
@shoukatsukai
@shoukatsukai 8 жыл бұрын
I love your description of "the main Carthaginian force started advancing silently down the hill." I can imagine the Carthaginians taking their time nonchalantly XD
@JK_2998
@JK_2998 8 жыл бұрын
A massive army moving around on their tiptoes xD
@Johnismybestfriend
@Johnismybestfriend 9 жыл бұрын
I was very happy to see this in my inbox, loving your calm explanation and graphical representation of these events. Way better than reading about it on Wikipedia! I'd love to see a video on the Battle of Carrhae. By the way, is it possible to make a one-time donation in stead of a monthly one?
@kaischneider5447
@kaischneider5447 8 жыл бұрын
God I love this channel. I could watch your videos all day, your mic could be made of plastic for all I care.
@lashram32
@lashram32 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the work you do. I love your vids.
@maximusmcpoyle8030
@maximusmcpoyle8030 9 жыл бұрын
great video i had never heard of this battle before
@lewishutcheson7363
@lewishutcheson7363 9 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video!
@colinmarx5025
@colinmarx5025 8 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Keep it up!
@Zoootex
@Zoootex 9 жыл бұрын
man o' man I love your videos!
@MrMaximkozin
@MrMaximkozin 8 жыл бұрын
what was the scalp helmet council's name?
@lMyGenocide
@lMyGenocide 9 жыл бұрын
These videos are great. Could you include a size scale possible? Somewhere in the corner signifying 100m or something.
@0hn0haha
@0hn0haha 8 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Kursk and Operation Bagration on the Soviet side (especially Bagration) were basically massive human wave ambushes. Stalingrad kinda too, but not the same; but Bagration saw tanks crossing the "impenatrable" Belorussian swamps through some ingenious stuff.
@1NaturalMystik1
@1NaturalMystik1 8 жыл бұрын
these are really good, make more plz.
@PassesBG
@PassesBG 9 жыл бұрын
Love the videos!
@buckyryan2804
@buckyryan2804 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video
@k9cheese
@k9cheese 9 жыл бұрын
Please keep making these
@dumbrain0knowIt
@dumbrain0knowIt 8 жыл бұрын
the piano inn the background is so fitting
@1987MartinT
@1987MartinT 8 жыл бұрын
While the battle of Cannae is very famous(and deservedly so) I don't know if it's the most famous battle in human history. It is certainly one of the most famous, but I think people are more likely to have heard of the battle of Waterloo, the battle of Stalingrad, or the battle of Normandy. Perhaps my definition of most famous is different than yours. My definition of most famous is: the thing within the subject category that the largest number of people are familiar with. Please tell me if our definitions are different, and if that's why our opinions differ.
@jonarsenault7679
@jonarsenault7679 8 жыл бұрын
i like how u called the gods noexistent
@moxhoxhoxho4581
@moxhoxhoxho4581 8 жыл бұрын
Canae probably is the most ingenious battle in the western world but i doubt that is the most famous. Anyways I appreciate and like your illustrated strategy videos and I thank you.
@calvincoolidge9370
@calvincoolidge9370 7 жыл бұрын
🎶Trasimene, Trasimene, Ooh-la-laaa🎶
@MrMichaelbird88
@MrMichaelbird88 9 жыл бұрын
This is great!
@lucasmullen348
@lucasmullen348 8 жыл бұрын
ahhahaha omg I love you... please continue posting, it's so interesting :(
@RoyalAnarchist
@RoyalAnarchist 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you had more fun making this one
@SirSanje
@SirSanje 8 жыл бұрын
Why yas I am like you! you answer all the good questions, you're videos rock
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 7 жыл бұрын
Surprising how many bad habits the Romans seem to have had. Any other Empire whose army was too lazy for scouting probably wouldn't have existed for 50 years, let alone a millennium.
@Kdunkham
@Kdunkham 9 жыл бұрын
Dude, your vids are interesting as fuck, keep doin your thang.
@DeLunny
@DeLunny 8 жыл бұрын
Loving this channel, what happened to the Roman prisoners?
@ianbuenaventura984
@ianbuenaventura984 8 жыл бұрын
it's sad that this account is dead. :(
@kravenmoorehead3824
@kravenmoorehead3824 8 жыл бұрын
Check out the Tet offensive in the Vietnam War. That was pretty damn big.
@gamerdude1246
@gamerdude1246 8 жыл бұрын
+Kraven Moorehead It was a surprising offensive campaign, not quite an ambush.
@buddyltd
@buddyltd 8 жыл бұрын
What program do you use to make the battle maps? Is it just an image editing program, or something else?
@Villimolli
@Villimolli 8 жыл бұрын
I think he uses paint.
@SchlrFtrRkMystc
@SchlrFtrRkMystc 8 жыл бұрын
"Non-existent gods" but then "and God knows what they did with him" :/
@aquila4460
@aquila4460 8 жыл бұрын
I think. An ambush is a unexpectet atack. planned by one side. With little to no warning to the enemy. The ambush is sucessfull when the enemy is hit quick enough to not be able to prepare. A failed ambush is discoverted or is to slow to it the enemy before they can set up a defence. the perfect ambush would crush the enemy with little to no resistance. But most Ambushes still gave the enemy the time to form up a defence. Mostly after the first engagement when everything was in chaos and someone rallied their troops to set up an effective defence.
@MRrealmadridRaul
@MRrealmadridRaul 8 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me what would happen to prisoners in ancient times?
@StandardTrickyness
@StandardTrickyness 8 жыл бұрын
So some people say that the Romans rushed into this ambush because they had realized Hannibal had slipped past their defenses and was worried about the security of rome is that true?
@alexandriariley5209
@alexandriariley5209 8 жыл бұрын
1:02 You didn't even mention the war elephants. -.-
@VasileIuga
@VasileIuga 7 жыл бұрын
I think Battle of Podu Înalt/Vaslui was a bigger ambush by far, at least in numbers but also in complexity. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vaslui
@the0glitter
@the0glitter 8 жыл бұрын
Battle Of Zama Please !!
@vkmicro2
@vkmicro2 8 жыл бұрын
may I ask what book you are reading for all of this? Sounds interesting
@whowantsabighug
@whowantsabighug 8 жыл бұрын
+vkmicro Ab Urbe Condita by Livy is a decent primary source for the Second Punic War.
@Herpaderple
@Herpaderple 9 жыл бұрын
You know at first I was put off by your minimalist display but I am so damn intrigued by the information that, after watching everything you have made, it seems like a petty complaint! Can't wait for the next video! Also would you consider doing reviews of battles from Chinese conflicts or the American Civil War?
@darthdj31
@darthdj31 8 жыл бұрын
after trasimene the gauls had his NUMBER
@Turgon92
@Turgon92 8 жыл бұрын
MOAR battles
@zombatija
@zombatija 8 жыл бұрын
do you know what did they do with captured romans?
@arvindalexander1884
@arvindalexander1884 8 жыл бұрын
The Roman historian Livy observed, " The place was perfect for an ambuscade, where Lake Trasimenus comes closest to the mountains of Cortona". Methinks the popularly elected Roman Consuls were often amateur generals, leading a superb professional army of disciplined legionaries. No match at all for arguably the greatest military genius in history.... HANNIBAL!
@Taltinus
@Taltinus 9 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Total War here I come...
@imlostagainWTF
@imlostagainWTF 8 жыл бұрын
so in all battle, a portion of the Roman army dont know what they are doing and is with out command?
@spencerabril7951
@spencerabril7951 8 жыл бұрын
I lol'ed at 00:52
@mkb6418
@mkb6418 9 жыл бұрын
What is an ambush? You didn't explain.
@davisa3542
@davisa3542 9 жыл бұрын
Birgilios Marmaroglou "A surprise attack by people lying in wait in a concealed position".
@mkb6418
@mkb6418 9 жыл бұрын
Davis A Ah, ok, thanx.
@Bwkjam
@Bwkjam 8 жыл бұрын
Is the non existent gods thing that contreversial? The Romans, Carthiginians, Iberians, and Celts of this period all followed religions that are pretty much extinct at this point. None of them were followers of any current major world religion.
@whowantsabighug
@whowantsabighug 8 жыл бұрын
+Bwkjam Yeah but it makes the narrator sound like one of those irritating militant Atheists who hold Dawkins as the new Messiah. And I'm an Atheist myself.
@NoctisAugustus
@NoctisAugustus 8 жыл бұрын
+Bwkjam They're not extinct, the roman, hellenic and germanic religions are being revived.
@abd-al-haqal-haqiqi6981
@abd-al-haqal-haqiqi6981 8 жыл бұрын
it's wrong to say romans hated scouting Rome wasen't burned by hannibal because of scouting and because of their spies network who were able to intercept the messages between Hannibal and his borther who took the last remaining forces in iberia to come help him siege Roma
@tatskamaster
@tatskamaster 8 жыл бұрын
I just wonder how accurate the info in these video is? What is his source? How can we know a thousand year old event in such detail?
@tatskamaster
@tatskamaster 8 жыл бұрын
***** Anyhow, it's pretty damn cool! :P
@Bomstep
@Bomstep 9 жыл бұрын
Isnt Stalingrad more famous than Cannae?
@Bomstep
@Bomstep 9 жыл бұрын
Andro Nom I disagree. Cannae was the most famous up to that point. Just because Stalingrad occurred in the 20th century doesn't make it less famous in history
@andronom557
@andronom557 9 жыл бұрын
***** It's hard to say "most famous" without providing a definition of what that really means. If you define it as "most famous throughout all of history as an average" then Cannae would be it, possibly. If you define it as "most famous now" then yes, Stalingrad would be more famous than Cannae.
@monsieurlaguillotine3481
@monsieurlaguillotine3481 9 жыл бұрын
***** It wasn't an ambush though. The Soviets knew the Germans were coming.
@andronom557
@andronom557 9 жыл бұрын
Lucius Albinus What does that have to do with it?
@616lordofdarkness
@616lordofdarkness 8 жыл бұрын
that's somehow not unsimiliar to the battle at teutoburgerwald... water on one side and tree+hills on the other is somehow a romans nightmare
@thibaud33ful
@thibaud33ful 8 жыл бұрын
Romans hated scouting and just went to fight like "fuck it". I sure would have been a roman
@crazybanana17
@crazybanana17 8 жыл бұрын
how can you simply say the battle of cannae was the most famous battle in human history?
@notsoprogaming9789
@notsoprogaming9789 7 жыл бұрын
most famous battle in human history it was very famous and might have been one of but i mean most? ehh....
@0hn0haha
@0hn0haha 8 жыл бұрын
BEETHOVEN!!
@tytube3001
@tytube3001 9 жыл бұрын
you make good videos but can you dance
@LannisterFromDaRock
@LannisterFromDaRock 8 жыл бұрын
Dat fail...
@shrekas2966
@shrekas2966 8 жыл бұрын
"non existing gods" "god knows what they did to him" nice hating
@Tyrkia123
@Tyrkia123 8 жыл бұрын
''non existent gods'' Im not religious, but you should keep on point and leave out personal feelings about those stuff to your self or on other videos. These educational videos should be informative, not bashing on other people. Just my 2 cents tho :P it's your channel.
@Tyrkia123
@Tyrkia123 8 жыл бұрын
Vercingetorix 39 For me it isn't about offending anyone, but being proffessional.
@InternetHandle123
@InternetHandle123 8 жыл бұрын
TheBoss he even goes to say 'and god knows what they did to him', therefore it's safe to assume it was more of a history joke than a religious riticule
@TheCaptainZodo
@TheCaptainZodo 8 жыл бұрын
+TheBoss Yeah, I was thinking to myself that sentence would flow better if he'd left out non existent and said "the gods must have been... blah blah blah etc etc".
@TheCaptainZodo
@TheCaptainZodo 8 жыл бұрын
Burhan the Somali Technically they could still be the ones that exist though, just no one worships them anymore!
@Tyrkia123
@Tyrkia123 8 жыл бұрын
Burhan the Somali Again, it's not only for being politically correct, but also because if he wants to be a professional, he shouldn't show biased views in these educational videos.
@jozebutinar44
@jozebutinar44 8 жыл бұрын
it wasnt like that, hanibal have a camp romans thought that they have him so atack the cam not known that the camp was intentionly put there the whole army atack the camp at the midle of the battle the carthage turn around and flee romans thought that they won and give the chase not known that this flee was part of the plan
@johnalexander651
@johnalexander651 8 жыл бұрын
Battle of Red Cliffs was the biggest ambush in history...
@cjclippa98
@cjclippa98 8 жыл бұрын
Vietnam war
@ArodWingfoot
@ArodWingfoot 8 жыл бұрын
1 thing bugs me. The Invasion of Normandy could be counted as an ambush because the Germans thought that there wasn't going to be an invasion that day, or for the following weeks. They where very surprised when the Allies showed up to the point that, the commanding officer, Rommel, WASN'T EVEN THERE! (He was back in Germany, celebrating his wife's birthday) However, that is just nitpicking at wording, and you could certainly argue Normandy was not an ambush, but, in my opinion, I would say it was.
@NoctisAugustus
@NoctisAugustus 8 жыл бұрын
The "non-existent gods" and "disgusting helmet" comments were completely unnecessary.
@ianbuenaventura984
@ianbuenaventura984 8 жыл бұрын
it's sad that this account is dead. :(
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