The BC Rich Custom Shop Is a Joke.

[@genghisghost]

here's one take i can stand behind. you forgot to mention the schuldiner stealth with the EXACT same specs used to be a 1000 dollar guitar before they decided it was custom shop only.

[@sixstringtv1]

What??? 😭😭😭 I didn't know that, thats... yikes

[@genghisghost]

@@sixstringtv1 fr 🤣

[@dervpool]

Actually the problem rn is that there will be a import version of it but it gets delayed and delayed because of the supply chain issues. They showed pictures of it a few times. They exist and they are working on it. It's just stupid that they decided to push out the customshop first.

[@genghisghost]

@@dervpool so much dumb with BC Rich honestly. i personally was interested in Warbeast. but 1800 for floyd Rose 1000, made in Korea, Veneer top. for 300 more i can get an E-ii with an original floyd rose, made in Japan, real tops, and infinitely better hardware. BC Rich is out of touch honestly.

[@dervpool]

@@genghisghost idk personally in that price range I'd go for the instrument I'd really want the most. Never bought a instrument in the ~3000+$ range and likely won't soon. The stuff they had in the custom shop webpage like the Rutan ironbird will be strict collectables anyways. Kinda like Gibson does it rn.

[@thecosmicpallbearer]

Yeah I have been a huge fan of Erik for a bit now. His work with Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel, and Cannibal Corpse is immaculate. Why they charge 7300 bucks for a guitar is bonkers.

[@sixstringtv1]

Especially since they sell a near identical one for 2K... forgot to mention that

[@deviltronix]

@@sixstringtv1 Every guitar company does this now.. Jackson, Ibanez, Fender etc. The "hand made" stuff for all these companies has become ludicrously expensive. BC Rich has become a complete shit show with many issues unique to them but you seem to be pointing out generic issues that plague most of the big companies. Dig a a little deeper.

[@rahulmenon4357]

I must say, calling Erik Rutan Cannibal Corpse's new guitarist is like calling Mike Portnoy the old drummer for Avenged Sevenfold

[@sixstringtv1]

Yeah yeah I know he's the guy from Hate Eternal, but even on Bc Rich's website he was described as the new guy from Cannibal Corpse 😂

[@sole__doubt]

@@sixstringtv1 He was integral part of the Tucker era of Morbid Angel too which is my favorite time for MA.

[@erronblack6763]

@@sole__doubthe was also in ripping corpse, another bad ass death metal prog band before he was in morbid.

[@uv77mc85]

Erik Rutan had 2 prototypes built and he sold the first one because the 2nd had a longer scale. Then he realised he needed another one and even he couldn't order a new one so had to buy his old one back from a scalper. If the artist can't get one how the fk is anyone else gonna get one?

[@chemistchemist6438]

@@sixstringtv1bro, Rutan also is the force behind the recording process of many great death metal bands. Instruct yourself and respect for such a great musician.

[@therollband1290]

The old BC Rich guitars were amazing. I haven’t tried any of the new ones. They are out of stock everywhere. I would love to get my hands on a new Bich Legacy. The neck size and the short 24 5/8 scale are good for people with medium sized hands. My buddy’s old Mockingbird was easy to play and sounded great. 🤘🏼

[@47279J]

Damn, those so-called custom shop guitars looked BAD. I've seen some pictures of them, I know the price range and haven't looked in more detail. Now in the pictures you showed they looked like the same guitars they churn of the production line! And why the hell would you price a Cannibal Corpse or Death guitar at 7000 USD? You certainly aren't going to sell too many at that price to your average death metal fan. And who's gonna pay that, when you get nice real customs for half the price?

[@sixstringtv1]

Exactly, I needed to make this video as a follow-up to the first one, too ridiculous 😆

[@luther_beckett]

Good point about 'Who is going to buy it?'

[@KDH]

Tbf that purple is a nice colour. Not 7k nice, but nice.

[@sixstringtv1]

Oh yeah 🤩

[@corbanjohnson8694]

But has anyone seen it irl?

[@sixstringtv1]

sadly not probably cause the guitar doesn't exist

[@Xenomorph]

it's really heartbreaking, as a BC Rich fan. i'm just glad i ordered my 2 customs before the whole CS/company change over bullshit.

[@sixstringtv1]

Good on you for buying when the company was still in alright condition 😂

[@TexAgsArmyVet]

This is one of the things I honestly don't understand about BC Rich. I bought a BC Rich Jr V Deluxe for $800 with a coffin case in 2008. It had 24 frets, EMG 81/85, an Ebony board, Floyd Rose 1000 and played amazingly!!!!! It was made in South Korea , if I remember correctly... 🤘🤘🤘🤘 I looked on the website and the Import "Extreme" models look fantastic and they're around $1800. $7300 for those specs? GTFO!

[@peachhodsun9532]

Yeah bc rich is a very unfortunate company. Good video. I really love that style ya got. Keep up the good work Glamantha

[@sixstringtv1]

Glad you enjoy my content, stick around for more 😁😁

[@kyotikk6761]

Solid video for such a small channel! Better production than most big ones! Much love man.

[@sixstringtv1]

Thanks homie 🙏🙏

[@luther_beckett]

@@sixstringtv1 You're good at this. Fun stuff. The BC Rich stuff is funny. You must know about Ed Roman.

[@ryanbilly3434]

Those prices are insane! Never even bothered to be updated on bc rich because of how hard for an amateur to own them. Yes as a kid I had one and it will make you quit guitar doing the trem balance alone. lol maybe I will try to work on it again.

[@sixstringtv1]

Follow-up video to this one coming tomorrow!

[@jacksonmarshallkramer5087]

I can't understand ANY guitar going 6k unless it's been owned and concert played by CC DeVille. The BC Rich guitars from the 80 with the Les Paul type headstock and the R logo, and 46 knobs and switches are the cool ones. The current ones shouldn't go for a penny over $900.00.

[@travisspaulding2222]

I still have yet to find a better manufacturer than the FujiGen factory in Japan. That impresses me more than "Made in the USA."

[@sixstringtv1]

FujiGen beats USA by a landslide. Agreed. (as a vintage Japan Strat collector)

[@TobyKBTY]

This! Japanese guitars in general kick so much ass. I've since replaced all my USA guitars with MIJ ones and I've gotten a bunch of money back AND enjoy higher quality instruments.

[@larsheuker]

Been saying this for ages, my main is a fujigen elan expert, gibsons feel like toys compared to this thing. It has flamed binding, gotoh floyd, seymour duncans, and weighs about 11 pounds, mahogany and maple. Its a tank, the best finished guitar ive ever felt. And it cost me 1500 used.. the expert range from fujigen is the same line as the ibanez j custom for a fraction

[@saltpeter7429]

I agree 100%. I'm into made in Japan guitars, never understood the signature artists who go to the made in USA model. I have a Japanese Jackson and have had a Fujigen Ibby. Love em. If I only have made in Japan guitars for the rest of my life I will be happy.

[@fatboydashredder9877]

@@saltpeter7429 those new Indonesia Pro Series are no joke either. I have a black USA King V and I still play they Pro over it

[@MaxPower-js1sk]

In the 1980s, EMGs used to be THE pickups to have. Also, Boss effects were the pedals to have.

[@sixstringtv1]

But times have changed and so should BC Rich

[@MaxPower-js1sk]

@@sixstringtv1 They certainly have, and that was what I was implying. But I obviously did a poor job. Gibson is another company which hasn’t changed with the times. I used to love Gibson guitars, but they won’t address design flaws. So I prefer well-made modern instruments.

[@sixstringtv1]

@@MaxPower-js1sk I've made an entire video about Gibson and their BS too 😅

[@MaxPower-js1sk]

@@sixstringtv1 I’m 60yo. I have a 92 Les Paul and a 93 ES-335. I have no tuning problems with them. For 20 years I had no problems, then I messed up a nut slot on my 335 and took it to place which made a new nut and they did a terrible job. I couldn’t get it fixed because of where I live. But a few weeks ago I found a luthier who made a great nut. Now I have no problems with tuning, but I had more that 10 years of hell. I got two PRS guitars to replace my Gibsons. I was going to sell both of them and be a PRS stan. I never expected to get my 335 back. The new models are horrid. I’ve had it with Gibson.

[@jimbomctimbo1610]

I got two custom shop stealths guitars built by from Estrada in 2016 and 2017 and they're badass. But they were about 4k each. Anything over 4k is rediculous hell even 3k lol

[@sixstringtv1]

I wouldn't even pay 4K, not gonna lie

[@owenjohnston33]

Agree with everything you said, except for the fact that EMG's are not bad pickups. Also, I owned that Legator guitar, it was phenomenal, only sold it because of the floyd rose. Though the killswitch was mediocre, like you had to push rather hard on it, which I don't think you should for a killswitch, but it's also the only one I've ever used

[@sixstringtv1]

The killswitch may have been mediocre, but it'll most probably outlive any plastic one

[@Geetarman69420]

@@sixstringtv1 to be fair the buckethead Gibson has a plastic killswitch and who knows how much that costs lol

[@Halfaloaf599]

Great video. I had the pleasure of speaking with Neal Moser and owning one of his guitars. Hear me now: NO ONE delivers an axe with a setup as good as Neal.

[@sixstringtv1]

They do look sick. I'll own a Bastard V one day

[@Coasterdude02149]

Neal is the man for sure!

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

Does he have the authority to build BC Rich owned bodyshapes? Like Beast, Warlock? Or do his have to vary ever so slightly? I know he’s an ex Custom Shop BC Rich guy, but I’m just wondering.

[@PegeCovers]

I always get excited when u upload tbh.

[@sixstringtv1]

😁😁 Saturdays are good 😌

[@kiezersosay49]

Man I didn't know all this, but I do love my newer mockingbird legacy ST. Handling and playability wise, its the Lamborghini of guitars. My carvin dc400 is extremely close to matching the mockingbirds playability and the solar e1.6frlb i just got does! Solar really impressed me.

[@sixstringtv1]

Solar is fantastic. Even competing with Schecter now cause they started selling Sustainiac equipped guitars

[@kiezersosay49]

@@sixstringtv1 maybe that's what happens when a guitarist actually runs the company. I was super suprised. Its the 1st time I've played SS frets that big. My other guitars with SS frets aren't quite as big...i was a little worried because i ordered them on a warmoth i have coming, but they're amazing. It feels like a big ass super slick slate. The strings on the mockingbird/solar e1.6frlb bend so incredibly easy it took time getting used to. I was doing accident bends. Lol thats where the lambo reference came from.

[@onyxashes]

Returning because this video is absolutely funny. I USED TO BE a B.C. Rich fan (arguably a fanboy too) UNTIL I had the extreme displeasure of playing one "post-Rico Sr. days." These post-Rico guitars are so bad a bonfire would kick them out had I thrown them all in! 😄

[@sixstringtv1]

You're gonna find my next BCR video quite interesting.

[@blakeoms]

There was a B.c. rich Custom shop used around my area for sale with the beast headstock and the cosmetic flaw was around the bottom of the headstock on the corner and the seller simply put it as it was builders error and it really was something you have to look at when tuning up the low E string.

[@sixstringtv1]

How much?

[@blakeoms]

@@sixstringtv1 I believe it was a 3500$ offer and he didn't really mention how much it cost I just know it was around a local shop and it had some wood showing a little bit like it's been thumb rubbed or something and well it did look like a very fine instrument but for how much it was used it just became a talking point

[@PureVatn]

I'm gonna be honest, since they changed owners a couple of years ago they think they are the boutique of metal guitars, which they are not. The guitars they build in the 2010's around 450 and 600$ where the fucking best value and quality i ever played. Now i don't understand what market they are trying get into, but it isn't working

[@sixstringtv1]

It definitely isn't working...

[@deviltronix]

You totally hit the nail on the head. If they wanted to be boutique they should have built them like the originals and targeted the original crowd that played them. Those guys are in the Facebook forums Fighting over scraps from the '80s because BC Rich doesn't know how to build their own product.

[@bobowrathsovine.]

Paul Stanley used those Ironbirds from about 1984 to 87. I think he used one with a mirror design in the Animalize Live In Detroit home video. The Heavens On Fire Music Video and maybe Tears Are Falling or one of the other music videos off the Asylum record. The original box cover for the 1986 movie Trick Or Treat had fictional rock star Sammie Curr on stage with a red one

[@sixstringtv1]

I used to own a Paul Stanley signature Ibanez Iceman, the man had taste.

[@luther_beckett]

I bought a 1982 or 1983 Mockingbird used in 1984. USA, transparent blue, reverse Strat-like headstock, brass Strat-style bridge, brass nut, single Bartolini humbucker, vol, tone, preamp engage. Balanced well, played well-enough for my punk rock ears, and I made money with it. Paid $400US - with my employee discount. It was $700 to customers. Put the headstock through a low ceiling in a club in Boston. Had it fixed by luthier Carlo Greco. He's the guy who designed most of Guild's hollow bodies. Carlo said, in his thick Portuguese accent, "Luther, this guitar is no good." He measures the distance of frets in the upper range with a micrometer. They were the same distance apart. Carlo did a great repair. I sold it for $400. Then I got a SWEET deal on an ESP M1 - direct from ESP. Much better guitar. That's another story.

[@saltpeter7429]

I desire the M-1. Sharp lookin rocker. Funny you bring that up, the other single humbucker guitar that I was lookin at and drooling over is the BC Rich Gunslinger with a maple fretboard . I would go with an LTD because I've had a couple and loved them, the Gunslinger is an unknown.

[@luther_beckett]

@@saltpeter7429 My M-1 was another oddball. Single Seymour Duncan StagMag and some funky passive circuit. Single volume. Blue sparkle finish with a maple neck. The trem was similar to a 2-point Fender model. Totally not locking. The posts were WAY too thin and I mangled them and ESP worked with me to get it right. I got mine because I knew Norman Dunn - the guy who maintained CBGBs sound system. Norman sent me to their show where this stoner, Steve, pretty much told me - 'I can sell you this one cheap.' Steve knew I was playing out plenty then and wanted it in the clubs. This is 1987 or so. Vernon Reid had just gotten his ESP endorsement. I was working at CBGB at the time.

[@toddcontino7271]

You could make this argument for any brand custom shop. Gibson, Fender, PRS, Jackson, etc or even boutique guitars like Valenti, Mayones, etc and I’ve contacted Neal Moser and his prices are the same. $6k typical starting price. Some people don’t get it, some don’t appreciate it, some don’t need it. That’s fine. To each their own.

[@ronaldmaday]

I just started looking into BC Rich guitars and I was shocked to see the insane prices. BC Rich either has $100 trash or USA custom shops that cost a second mortgage. Furthermore, whatever happen to the 2015 NJ Retros with Kahler trems? I never saw them come out for sale.

[@joehatch1602]

I have one its a purpleish with sparkle Bich with Kahler. It was on show at the NAMM 2015 I have 8 Bichs and that is my favorite.

[@IsaacRossMusic1]

Congrats man. You hit 1k! Glad to be your 971st subscriber

[@sixstringtv1]

I wouldn't want anyone else as my 971st 😁😂

[@IsaacRossMusic1]

@@sixstringtv1 lmao

[@okayestguitar66]

Thanks for these videos and commentary on the BC Rich shenanigans. I love the Mockingbird shape, and kick myself every time I look back at having sold my Pro X Custom (made in S. Korea) I had, like, 8 years ago, just cause it had a Floyd, not a hard tail! 😖 That said, I also liked the Mockingbird Contour line, can't find those either! My playing does not warrant a custom shop guitar, and my wallet (aka, wife 😂) can't deal with the price! I don't know how this iconic American brand got so f-ed up like this, but I can't wait for the medical mini-series that shows the operation where it's head is removed from its ass!

[@dresdensinn6669]

There's a B.C. Rich Custom Shop Warlock Legacy with a Kahler in Purple Crackle for $4800! I actually have the '80's original w/a Floyd! It was my 2nd guitar...it needs some minor wiring/electronic work but it's still all original and just rests in it's original case.

[@OGbrundle]

This just solidifies my decision to get a chinese BC knockoff and rebuild it with better parts. Even then ill have paid 1/8 the price of a new BC Rich

[@dresdensinn6669]

I actually have 2 Chinese Warlock counterfeits and they're both excellent as stock, I was sent a lefty for the 1st one but I just inverted the strings and play it as right-handed...it surpisingly plays and sounds very good much to my disbelief!

[@thephoenixcycle8854]

I see those a lot and they're pretty good, huh? That's good to know. I know the clones of Strats and LPs get positive reviews. Good to know the pointy guitars are worth it. There was this super cool Ironbird l wanted but never had the chance to buy

[@Andyw1228]

My bandmate had a 1995mocking bird with Kahler and passive Dmarzios, a bit heavy but so it sounded. Another friend (guitar & vocals of German Protector) had a 1996 (or so) black witch white lining iron bird, same specs but much lighter- my dream guitar. The last one he imported himself after a gig in US and the first was an official import.

[@gsharpe84]

Or you go through a dealer such as Red Blanket Guitars and he has most of the USA models. That out of stock is the status of all products on the site, it's not a retail store. If you go through an authorized dealer u can place a build order for those guitars

[@bobowrathsovine.]

I'd say the USA Custom guitars are so high priced because the Luthers probably cost $500 per hour as opposed to reasonable rates elsewhere. Hand crafted guitars are just a traditional pre computer age wasteful way to manufacture a line of instruments. CNC machines can pound them out more accurately without wasting half the materials that get wasted by hand making them in turn keeps the cost way down. Along with actually producing the guitars they claim to produce instead of having nothing in stock from the beginning

[@sixstringtv1]

Agreed, 100%

[@SidWalter]

Hey not a hate comment I’m actually a big fan of this channel and have been watching for awhile now. What exactly do you not like about EMG pickups and how are the fishman’s any different? I’m a passive guy I love dimarzio pickups but I have a couple guitars with emg pickups and I enjoy them! Not as much as my super distortion though lol 😂

[@metalhead8338]

Their pricing is so stupid. And they are lol. I want the cheaper stealth, in guitar center is 1299,9 USD (for me in hungary, is ≈450k HUF. For comparison, i got 50k for christmas, bday, etc. And a teacher's payment is around 300k or lower. And this takes so much time, i already have around 80k HUF.

[@metalhead8338]

(these are non exact datas, sometimes my money what i get is lower or more.)

[@metalhead8338]

And 50K HUF is around 144 USD

[@marcotixxx]

i have a bc rich platinum series warlock modded with an 8mm metal kill switch. the mod cost me just a little over $20. it’s the best thing i’ve ever done to any of my guitars

[@sixstringtv1]

Exactly, insane the difference a tiny mod like that makes... But I guess 6.5K isn't enough for a metal killswitch 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lecorsaire2283]

The reality is that B.C. Rich built its reputation in the 70s and 80s and hasn’t been the same brand in decades. By the mid to late 90s they were already primarily selling low end garbage (Bronze) and solid mid-range imports (NJ series). If you’re a fan of the brand and want a good one you’re better off looking for an original vintage one than ordering a new Custom Shop which is almost certainly going to be ghost built these days.

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

I actually want a Beast. But they’ve been out of stock and “coming soon” for ages. I understand the whole new company change and supply chain yada yada… but yeah man. It’s crazy how even old use Bronze Warlocks (the most common BC Rich of the late 90s and early 2000s) are going for $400-$500. Those things were 10x cheaper about 5 years ago. You can’t find a 20 year old NJ Beast for less than $1000-$1200. This sucks for two reasons, finding them is hard, and second of all due to the huge vacuum that exists now with the brand being short of virtually everything, it drives the old, even lackluster stuff up crazy high, so younger (broke) players, like myself, have a hard time getting one. It really is a shame, some of my fav guitarists use BC Rich for a long time, and they are a legendary brand. Too bad they’ve had such bad luck for so long now.

[@jacksonmarshallkramer5087]

I had a NJ exotic spalted Mockingbird with an ebony fretboard, cloud inlays, and a Gibson style stop bar bridge. Paid $700.00 for it new in 2010. Best playing guitar I've ever owned. Wouldn't want a newer one, but the 80s models were the best.

[@devinwilliams4038]

I’m just gonna say this. “Their location matters” because U.S. labor is just more expensive. That’s why companies went abroad to begin with with manufacturing. U.S. labor just cost more. You can argue the reason why or if it’s worth it all day. But it’s pretty simple economics. More expensive labor = More expensive product.

[@sixstringtv1]

But these are usually guitars made by ona master builder in his workshop, not workers in a factory

[@devinwilliams4038]

@@sixstringtv1 even more so then. A U.S. based master builder is going to charge more.

[@DrMurdercock]

Location is relevant for quality issues dude. I have had "hand made" Korean guitars that were a joke

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Might as well go get any ESP E-II

[@matthewearl9824]

I watched this video because David Cohen recommended it.

[@RP-dy5mu]

The location is important because the amount of specialists is important. There aren't many people in indonesia who make premium, top notch, world class guitars. America, Japan, United Kingdom are about the only countries whose specialists I would trust. That's about it. If I think perfect custom guitar, I think of those countries. I don't think of fucking Indonesia, or Bangladesh, or Germany.

[@the-first-liam]

Yeah I wouldn't call the country "irrelevant" either, there's a reason east Asian guitars can sell for a fraction of the price lol (multiple reasons actually)

[@stackhom656]

If they had EBMM specs and craftsmanship I'd understand the price but 3200usd for a superstrat? for what looks like a plain gloss colored Jackson Soloist with pickup rings?

[@maf579]

Yo I agree with most of your points but don’t you DARE be dissing EMGs 😤 they may be a one-trick pony but they do that trick better than literally any other pickup

[@sixstringtv1]

Sorry 🙄🙄 But you gotta agree they don't belong in a 7K custom shop guitar

[@maf579]

@@sixstringtv1 S’all jokes mate, I’m not mad 😂 I personally don’t like actives myself just because a guitar that needs batteries would trigger my OCD, but I do really like the EMG rhythm sound and there are so many great albums that have that 81/85 tone. And imo I’d take EMGs in a custom over Fishman moderns. I feel like the moderns try to be both active and passive and don’t sound particularly convincing as either

[@sixstringtv1]

Agree to disagree 🤷🏻‍♂️ But thanks for watching 😁

[@maf579]

@@sixstringtv1 ❤️

[@FingerBrokenBranches]

It sucks man, it's so hard to be a bc rich fanboy. Love their designs and shapes more than any other but the company just doesn't know how to sell. I don't know how they stay in business.

[@sixstringtv1]

Maybe they don't stay in business, that would explain the lack of actual guitars for sale 😂😂

[@victorruiz7862]

I'm a fan of BC Rich guitars, but I feel like they're on their way out.

[@sixstringtv1]

Rapidly😂

[@Mad_Axe_Man125]

You need to order one of those Stranger things warlocks and do a review. Get this...900 dollars for a bolt on with in house pickups, a floyd special, and in house tuners. I have a new neck thru dean select V from 2021 with a Kahler bridge, SD pickups, Grover tuners...for 1200 dollars.

[@sixstringtv1]

I'd rather get a maple syrup enema and sit on an anthill

[@chrisa1125]

I had an ealy 90's Warlock I bought new back then in my early 20's... I paid a few hundred for it... have no idea what happened to it. But I wish I still had it because apparently I could get a couple of grand for it now.

[@ileutur6863]

I don't understand why american companies put the word custom on so many things. Custom is when I order a guitar to my exact specs, not when I pay more for one or two special features that I could install myself. Also there's nothing wrong with EMGs, some of their models are harsh metal trash, but the rest work just fine

[@sixstringtv1]

There's definitely something wrong with EMGs when they're put in a guitar for 7K

[@deviltronix]

@@sixstringtv1 EMG 85 one of the best sounding pickups ever made.. there is a Reason Zakk Wylde used it exclusively for years

[@sixstringtv1]

@@deviltronix Right, because Zakk Wylde sounds so great

[@deviltronix]

@@sixstringtv1 I don't understand what you're trying to say honestly. His first two albums with Ozzy and The multi-layering he did was a very popular sound at the time. Of course sound is subjective but EMGs were considered revolutionary when they debuted and are no means a budget pickup. ESP put EMGs in a majority of their high-end guitars. There's nothing wrong with not liking EMGs but the implication that there's some kind of budget pick up like Duncan Design is baffling.

[@brian3344]

Their Gunslinger and Shredzilla guitars are good players but they are high dollar even used .Its hard to find a quality Rich especially Ameican made and if you do it's going to cost you. It would be nice if they went back to the old headstock with the R on it. I've seen that Chuck Schulinder model for sale on Reverb. You would probably like the Gunslinger it's kinda a super strat. All I ever see in Guitar Center are the cheap Warlocks and the cheap Kerry Kings sometimes a newer production mockingbird.

[@sixstringtv1]

You have just recited the contents of my first two BCR videos to me

[@brian3344]

@@sixstringtv1 🤣 I didnt mean too. It's the truth though shows your not the only one who notices these things about BCR. I think the main problem is so many people have owned BCR and they have so many different models of the same guitar depending on who owned them and where they made them. Who knows how many BCRs Ed Roman destroyed and rebuilt when he owned them.

[@RodVonLongrod]

$7,300 for a BC Rich guitar? But all the blues lawyers already have a pricey Gibson Les Paul.

[@RoiDatBoi]

For people saying “it’s the custom shop of course it’s sold out they’re one of a kind” - everything on that website is sold out not just the CS - and it’s been that way for some time now

[@sixstringtv1]

*yikes*

[@RoiDatBoi]

We just want our baby to come home 😭

[@victorruiz7862]

Can you do a video on Legator guitars

[@sixstringtv1]

Yes!

[@kristanbenson803]

Who’s the ex customshop luthier you mentioned? I’m more a blues/rock player myself, this is a shame non the less, they’re iconic metal guitars.

[@sixstringtv1]

I don't know anyone by name sadly, but You'll find them very easily in the BCR groups I've been blacklisted from 😂😭

[@kristanbenson803]

@@sixstringtv1 lmao why have you been blacklisted? Was it neil mouser? N/m BcRich have got a good chance to re-establish themselves riding on the back of stranger things.

[@sixstringtv1]

For making these videos 😭 And Neal Moser has his own guitar company, makes sick guitars too tho

[@hawaiianshirtguy_29]

I sent in a couple of custom shop forms, one for a custom shop Stealth, and a custom shop Ignitor, and I've never heard anything back from them. I knew it was going to be really expensive. But I at least wanted to see what the price was going to be.

[@sixstringtv1]

Hmm, could ask Casey Crabtree or his wife on Facebook. Apparently they're really easy to reach, as his wife has been calling me broke and insulting me on there for the past hour or so

[@hawaiianshirtguy_29]

@@sixstringtv1Man dude, forget them. They shouldn't be doing that. To be honest I've kinda lost respect for their company for the past while. They just seem out of touch, and their prices are insane. And I feel bad that they are insulting you, cause you seem like a really cool and chill guy, you're just giving them your two cents. Forget them man, keep on rocking.🤟

[@sixstringtv1]

Thanks! 😁 Promised a follow-up to one of the butthurt guys on the BCR unlimited Facebook page, keep your eyes peeled 😂

[@hawaiianshirtguy_29]

@@sixstringtv1 You're welcome man! I'll have to make sure to keep an eye out!😎👍🎸

[@R1GAMBLER]

all the rad BC Rich stuff was built by Neal Moser... pointy guitars are not my jam, but I'd love to own the pointy-est pointy guitar Neal makes!

[@sixstringtv1]

Follow-up video coming tomorrow, including some inside commentary about Moser. Stay tuned.

[@brandonboe2286]

Dude I came here after seeing a Bc Rich Gunslinger USA with one pickup and a bolt on neck for 3k. I thought it was a joke, even USA made shouldn't be more than $1500 tops. And I doubt their ground level USA workers are making great wages, the top is getting it all I'll wager.

[@yellowdog2181]

Location makes a difference in the price because it’s more expensive to build anything from a guitar to a tooth pick in the US . Sadly , especially now with our incredibly leadership doing a fantastic job looking out for its citizens

[@sixstringtv1]

But the cost of building something somewhere doesn't determine quality

[@yellowdog2181]

@@sixstringtv1 you’re right it shouldn’t but in some instances it does. It doesn’t make it right. I’m a professional custom woodworker, so I see both sides. I’m a new fan love the kdh video turned me on to your KZbin

[@Germs19]

Kiesel doesn't seem to have a problem. Whoever is calculating prices over at BC Rich based on what they're offering must have hit their head really hard. They should hit it again and wake up.

[@daemonspudguy]

American here. A lot of Americans put a ludicrous amount of importance on where something is made, even with hand made stuff. Sadly, a lot of it is based on racism.

[@Shankdaddy16]

I really want a Rich Bich but I feel like I would absolutely have to play one in the store first.

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

That’s a really good idea for any guitar generally. But yeah for one those absolutely.

[@rileyyoung8525]

Why are you smirking at EMG 81-85'? Those are industry standard high gain pick ups last I checked?

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

He’s dumb

[@grgwashnton23]

love the content and your presentation! immediate sub! greetings from sri lanka!

[@sixstringtv1]

I'm glad you enjoy my content all the way over there! Greetings back from Germany! 🤩

[@lenschumann1321]

I know you hate emg’s but a lot of people still like them. They are still a good quality aftermarket pickup

[@richwallace6854]

Didn't Pat Benatar's husband/guitarist play a B.C.Rich? Things were different back in the '80's.

[@rafahellorsato]

I've seen Mayones guitars with EMGs... I swear to Satan himself, seeing EMG pickups in expensive guitars makes me want to unalive myself.

[@sixstringtv1]

Physical pain.

[@ileutur6863]

Why? There's nothing wrong with them.

[@sixstringtv1]

I've made an entire video on what's wrong with them

[@Geetarman69420]

@@sixstringtv1 there’s nothing wrong with them if you want “that” sound, but I agree if you want an uncompressed sound they are not the ones to buy

[@micahwatz1148]

Yeah im pretty disappointed with bc rich. Was excited to see them come back. But who ever is designing the guitars is goofy. Too much abalone, too many floyds, too many tremolos, not enough vs, nothing in stock

[@sixstringtv1]

Agree with all of those except too many Floyds. No such thing. 😂

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

Hell, even Moser guitars are cheaper. I am thinking of a Bastard V.

[@sixstringtv1]

Disgustingly beautiful.

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

@@sixstringtv1 they just exude edge in just the right way.

[@sixstringtv1]

@@deadinsidemcgee411 guitars that look like saws >>>

[@necrotik666]

Clearly and expert on the matter

[@sixstringtv1]

Must I be an expert to know $7000 is too much for a $2000 guitar?

[@Kylora2112]

Me: "Holy shit, Gibson's custom shop prices are fucking insane!" BC Rich: "Hold my beer."

[@sixstringtv1]

😂

[@FiendlingBM]

I'd order a custom Beast in a heartbeat if I had any faith I'd get it before cashing in my first pension, and it wasn't the price of a down payment for a house. It feels like nobody even runs the company any more. I've messaged their custom shop facebook, instagram and didn't even get a response. No modern customs are ever on reverb. There's just something seriously fishy going on with B.C Rich. It's a shame because they have some of my favourite shapes, warlock, beast, iron bird are all sick af.

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

Want a Beast too, looks like I’ll just have to settle for finding a 20 year old NJ on reverb for $1000+, the new ones have been “coming” soon” for ages.

[@FiendlingBM]

@@Divine_Serpent_Geh Yeah, I was going to get one of the new prophecy series Beasts and they just never released them. At least Moser has officially taken over the custom shop though, he responds to emails. Apparently they have build times down to something close to a year, down from 3+. The prices are mental though, 10k dollars is a bit much. I could do it but it's hard to justify at the same time.

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

@@FiendlingBM Yup and who knows when they’ll be in stock and for how long. 10k is fucking ridiculous, I don’t care who makes it. I can’t feasibly see people paying 10k for a guitar even if it was owned by Hendrix, Paige, Slash. I mean that’s just nutty, Neal Moser customs were like 3.5K spec’d exactly how you wanted it.

[@FiendlingBM]

@@Divine_Serpent_Geh Yeah, it's crazy. Mosers own guitars still are in the 4-5k range. It seems you're basically paying for the guitar twice with custom B.C Rich. You pay for Neal to make it then you pay B.C Rich the same amount again to let him use their shapes. People are buying them, I know they have a large backlog. I've almost ordered a baritone Ironbird with Beast headstock and Evertune but it's definitely a total ripoff.

[@Divine_Serpent_Geh]

@@FiendlingBM That guitar sounds sick as fuck! It would a 1 of 1 for sure. But yeah, unfortunately it would be big big money to have something like that made.

[@idiotburns]

USA, its expensive to make things here, location is relavent if you want a booming economy in your country you buy from your country, BC Rich is cool, buy em if you want em

[@sixstringtv1]

BC Rich is not cool, do not buy BC Rich.

[@idiotburns]

@@sixstringtv1 I am not interested in buying a new BC Rich, but I get why people like them, I think I would go searching for something Bernie made, hope that clarifies what I meant. Today's operation doesn't represent the history, thats all. Love the content, appreciate the heck out of this video.

[@idiotburns]

@@sixstringtv1 I would buy RL James ;)

[@solasburst59]

The solid finishes on the guitars discussed, probably hide inferior wood and build quality.

[@sixstringtv1]

That *is* a thing manufacturers tend to do. Regardless of price range, if you want the best quality wood go transparent finish 💯

[@Xbrayan777X]

I love bc rich but you are right that's why I decided to build my own stealth not gonna pay 6k for one "build in usa" when I can make my own shit here too

[@themightymcb7310]

Good video, but I do gotta push back a little bit on the Legator hate. The cheaper stuff? Yeah sure fine, they kinda suck. The upper midrange ninjas are good guitars though, and it's not exactly easy to find multiscales from other companies at that price point.

[@Nibblerr]

Performance and Overdrive series are very competitive in the 1000-1400€ price range.

[@sixstringtv1]

I've only heard shit about Legator and the few I've tried have also sucked... might make a video about them too 🤔 Won't be too one-sided, I promise

[@Nibblerr]

@@sixstringtv1 oh they 100% were crappy guitars years ago. They still have some qc issues but overall they upped their game a lot around 2020.

[@sixstringtv1]

@@Nibblerr Still, 9 strings with EMGs are ew

[@themightymcb7310]

@@sixstringtv1 I remember when they sent a $350 ninja to basically every guitar KZbinr ever in 2017. I kinda get the vibes that they never quite recovered their reputation after that. I picked up a b stock 7 string Ninja at the beginning of the pandemic for a very competitive price expecting to flip it, but I ended up keeping it instead cause I liked it so much. Only real complaints I had were the stock pickups (they weren't bad, just not what I like) and the nut (actually was bad), both of which were easy fixes.

[@darensarphie8597]

I thought you were going to amend this video to acknowledge that you were wrong about the purple custom shop warlock?

[@Alfredo78666]

Is it sold out? Damn!

[@sixstringtv1]

😭😭

[@deandee8082]

yea, all of them are taking their customs shops and artist series way to off.. they will keep pushing until the consumers say no more, so as long as they sell they'll keep raising costs.. they're out of stock cuz they want you to order one cuz ya know, they are out of stock, they will gladly pump you one out fora quick $8k

[@Davidthestratman7]

I think these are the fenders the dudes referring to

[@electrikjam7661]

So...$600 worth of parts.... $6000? Seems weird to me.

[@megatodd707]

This CANNOT be correct. How much?!? For WHAT!?! Uhhhh …. No. They are clearly delusional. 😆 Cool video. Thanks for calling out their lunacy.

[@sixstringtv1]

Yeah, I thought those prices were typos at first too 😂

[@Sc4r1_]

Yep and to add on to all of this, they said left handed versions were promised and surprise surprise! They still don’t exist and even if they did they’d be ludicrously expensive so maybe it isn’t the worst thing but still, why promise something and then never make it a reality? 😐

[@sixstringtv1]

Huge bummer, but I'm sure other brands offer cool shit for lefties too, right?? 😂 Not too well-versed in the leftie guitar scene

[@Kylora2112]

I got an import lefty Stealth Legacy from Thomann (only place I've seen one), and it's a solid guitar for the $1200 I paid (DiMarzio pickups, locking Grover tuners, Grover strap locks, nice-feeling switch and push/pull pot). The neck is a bit on the wide side, but it's still an excellent guitar. But they don't seem to have any lefty support beyond special distributor runs (XLG, Thomann, and I think Drum City Guitar Land are the only places that have carried lefty models...I follow the lefty listings on Reverb). All this, and BC Rich still has better lefty support than Jackson (Jackson has TWO worthwhile lefty models; a Pro Series Soloist and a Pro Series Monarkh...both in black). Jackson hasn't introduced a single new lefty model in like 7 years, and their parent company (Fender) makes more variant production Stratocasters (all the different finishes on the Player, American Professional, and American Ultra series) than Jackson has in their entire list of SKUs. I know Schecter gets a lot of hate, but they (along with LTD, Fender, and Gibson) are the only major companies that have a solid lineup of affordable production lefty models.

[@briangeorgebowes]

If you want a point by point breakdown of a Bernie Rico that i restored from total trash to a usable guitar, lemme know. :)

[@mrnegronis]

The term "hand made" gets thrown around way too much. I find it quite annoying actually. In reality, the only way to be truly hand made is if you completely take electricity out of the equation. Hand held electric power tools are still a relative form of automation even if it is not controlled by a computer. In order to accurately say your thing is completely hand made, you must be limited to hand held saws, files, chisels and blades with no electricity whatsoever. I seriously doubt the current BC Rich is doing anything that resembles actual hand made work. Bernie Junior did some custom shop work for them years back. They were probably the last semi hand made guitars ever branded with the name. The term "hand made" is more of a marketing strategy than anything else these days. I doubt there are any large scale guitar brands that come anywhere close to hand made. Some companies will falsely claim they build hand made guitars even if they used CNC equipment for the whole build.

[@undertowlil]

But what does 4 string radio (your evil twin that plays bass) think of this?

[@sixstringtv1]

😭😭 good one

[@zikkicharade]

Gunslinger is the same thing with baretta which is 600€

[@jamesbridges1107]

Neal Moser is a BCR Custom shop provider.

[@sixstringtv1]

But his Moser guitars are better

[@jamesbridges1107]

@@sixstringtv1 not sure. Do you own one?

[@jamesbridges1107]

You also mentioned that the guitars are out of stock…they are custom shop instruments-often times-“one offs”, I would imagine they would be out of stock. Lastly, price-remember there is a person(s) building these by hand. There are material costs, labor, etc. Paint costs a fortune(especially custom colors) what if it doesn’t turn out properly(it does happen). There are so many factors. Check out Jacksons CS. I’ve been trying to get a bass made for 6 years and get denied because of labor shortages, my quote in 2015 was $5700 if they had time to do it. How much should a luthier be paid for his/her services? Shipping costs, insurance, etc. remember these are custom instruments built for individuals and not you.

[@sixstringtv1]

My whole point was that the guitars "offered" on the website were no different from stock guitars you can buy from Thomann etc.

[@sixstringtv1]

Been lucky enough to play one a single time. Incredible guitar. But based purely on specs one could argue they're better

[@billhogue9523]

BC Rich guitars and basses were my first love. I saw an ad with Nikki Sixx with a Warlock and had to have one. Yes, I know he has made a career playing the open E. I hate the new BC Rich's. I have a Warlock bass made in the early 2000s and it is a monster. The newer ones are shit. I have owned several guitars by them and all quality since they were made before 2005. I had one of the arch top Bich's made in 2005 and it was maybe the last quality model. It is a huge disapointment since they are bad ass guitars and basses.

[@robertcancro5864]

I am exceedingly disappointed with BC Rich. I own one of their recent Mockingbird ST's. That guitar has done nothing but fight me since I took it out of the case. The volume knob is in the worst spot on the planet, so after three strums the guitar is off!! That's not even the worst of it... This guitar is the most brutally neck heavy pig I have ever strapped on my body. It is so poorly balanced that the headstock is always heading for the floor. The guitar is literally unplayable. I have seen some 22 fret Mockingbirds, and I'm wondering if that would do the trick. The point is I'm not willing to spend $7,000 for a custom shop pig that is unplayable...

[@miket2646]

The cheaper version of the Rutan Iron bird is $2300 and STILL farmed out to korea. Lame af

[@danec1384]

While most of the points you made about custom shop are just subjective, I do agree that it's way over priced and has very little info who makes the customs. I do really want an Ironbird MK1 style guitar but I feel like the new BC Rich owners have 0 idea how to run the company and they will also be super hard to get in Australia.

[@sixstringtv1]

According to my guitarist friend in Australia, you people can't get jack shit over there 😭

[@danec1384]

@@sixstringtv1 Thomann luckily ships to Aus but obviously you pay shipping and GST/import tax. We get it pretty bad here 😅. Especially Mesa Boogie stuff too. A dual rec is like 4k here

[@sixstringtv1]

Jesus Christ 💀

[@antonkovalenko364]

Forget the custom shop. It has been shady since its revival. The used market is the way to go. Agreed, though. Go to Neal or one of Bernie's kids. Also, if you invest your hard-earned money into a USA made BCR there is a good chance that it was at least partially crafted in Mexico anyway. There is a precedent for this.

[@sixstringtv1]

💯💯💯

[@patrickshannon4516]

They are asking way too much that's just ridiculous man!

[@dr.scanlan6112]

Thank god they are out of stock..or I'd have to feel sorry for the idiot who actually bought one.

[@randymiles904]

I don't know one person, that has spent the money on a custom shop bc Rich. Even Dave mustaine admits to getting ripped off, buying a "high end" bc rich bitch. The better quality imports is a high as I would go for a bc rich. The older ones at least were great mod platforms.

[@sixstringtv1]

I don't think anyone would genuinely spend that much on a BC Rich, but they couldn't even if they wanted to because they're not real 😭

[@randymiles904]

@@sixstringtv1 I don't know if your making a joke, or if you actually think bc doesn't have a custom shop. I agree with poking fun at it, but they do in fact exist. I think they're made it Washington or somewhere.

[@sixstringtv1]

I'm aware they do have a custom shop somewhere, but the guitars listed on that website don't seem to exist.. People who ordered the new Ironbird got refunds, people who own the original Schuldiner Stealth told me it has the exact same specs for ~1K as the new "custom shop only" model does

[@jamesbridges1107]

@@randymiles904 They are made in California and Colorado Springs

[@jamesbridges1107]

Well, Mustaine hasn’t played a BCR in 40 years. He begged the guitarist from Anthrax to get him a PAID endorsement deal with Jackson in the mid/late 80’s. So I would imagine he may have been a little put off when Bernie Rico denied him some “freebies”

[@Niarfor]

You should retitle this video to "DBag Nobody Who Plays Overpriced, Outdated Fender Guitars Whines About Superior B.C. Rich Guitars"... ETA: Evidently I also need to add "USA-Hating Foreigner" before "DBag"...

[@jacksterling9258]

Jeez, who pissed in your cornflakes homie? 😂

[@Pauli2323]

I had a b c rich Stealth Legacy exotic and holy shit that guitar was a horrible neck dive, it doesn't stay in tune I bought a higher quality bridge (Tonepros) to replace the original bridge of the guitar and it still didn't stay in tune the tuners also made a strange noise and rattles that was my first b.c rich experience never going back and overall it dosent feel premium guitar and it cost now something like 1500 euros. only good thing what i remember was that guitar sound pretty good but yeah... and of course that stealth shape.

[@astonewall.912]

From my experience i haven't had any bad issues with legator other than their shit pickups. I replaced em with dimarzios and we're chillin. Regardless, prices are too high for what they offer so i only get them when they're clearing their yearly models.

[@sixstringtv1]

Next time theyre doing a big sale I'll get one.

[@astonewall.912]

@@sixstringtv1 I'd suggest a p series over the s series. Necks much thinner

[@workingorder2189]

B.C. RIch need to sort out their supply chain. Its been years since they announced the prophecy series and they are no wear to be found.

[@sixstringtv1]

*yikes* follow-up to this video coming tomorrow

[@darrenwoolley8736]

You can get a $250 second hand Schectre that kills it in every aspect.. but then, some like that crappy plasticy sound and feel, so long as it's made in the USA... Australian makes guitars that rock too, but we throw pretentiousness free...