The Beretta M9A3 Modular Handgun Proposal

[@TimHPop776]

I own an M9A3, it is one of the very best pistols I have owned. Thank you.

[@v8felon]

Do old m9/m9a1 mags fit it?

[@jimtheedcguy4313]

@@v8felon yes they do. They're all the same. They wouldn't have changed it as being a selling point for the military would be that their current stockpile of m9 mags would be compatible with the newer m9.

[@dixy2k]

It's not the first bad choice the military made in it's history.

[@thecoolnerdplaysvr5674]

@dig duck ww1 model had some reliability issues. also i dont judge early automatic rifles too hard. as they were experimental

[@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke]

The m9a3 should have won the trials, it's clearly the best option

[@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke]

@Grimwol I, nor my wording implies anything of the sort

[@The_Crimson_Fucker]

It also benefits from being, more or less, what's already in service. I smell the smell of corruption.

[@baker90338]

What does corruption smell like? I’m guessing rancid milk

[@The_Crimson_Fucker]

@@baker90338 Stale semen and incense, it smells like stale semen and incense.

[@TheFalloutguy326]

thomas williams military hasn’t always been smart even operators use a Glock worst pistol on the planet Springfield is a amazing Firearms so are sigs and M9 Series it’s been proven since the 80s if it’s not broken don’t fix it

[@johnoldman5877]

Well done Chris. I definitely agree they should have just migrated to the A3. A full conversion isn't necessary as the parts are interchangeable. I would just have just added M9A3's as necessary, or swap the slides/barrels for those units which need the functionality. The pistol is the least used firearm in combat, and the Beretta has already proven to be rock solid. Changing to a whole new system is a colossal waste of money.

[@burmiester1]

That's the government for you. If they knew what they were doing they would have taken care of the M9s in the first place rather than wearing them out to the point where they can't even be fixed anymore.

[@chill_will9816]

And if you are going to change platforms, who in their right mind thought to go with a striker fired, no safety setup? Aside from soldiers being accustomed to that manual of arms, they (soldiers) are held to extreme accountability when it comes to ROE/ lethal force (something cops don't have to worry about as much).

[@richardlahan7068]

I have no idea how military procurement works but it seems like a fair amount of politics and a confusing way of determining what is needed in a military handgun contributes to a dysfunctional system in which the military may or may not get the gun they need.

[@TJackson736]

@@richardlahan7068 From what I can tell is ut is who can tell the bigger lie about their product.

[@BigTex65]

Matthew Williams they have safeties on them.

[@chiefro7]

“Government fuckery”... my new favorite term for sure! Solid. Lmfao

[@eatsleepplayrepeat]

I love my 92FS. It's everything I want.

[@231mac]

I'm pondering that Beretta's lawsuit, combined with their stance on the Gov paying for all upgrades had anything to do with this. I mean, that HAD to ruffle the wrong person's feathers somewhere.

[@greggstrasser5791]

That was a long time ago. All those guys are retired.

[@caseybrown5183]

It wasn’t their money.

[@randyknapp1910]

@@caseybrown5183 The government should have just turned around and had Winchester pay for it.

[@Painfulwhale360]

My dad has the M9A3 after carrying the 92 in LE many years ago. M9A3, is a sweet sidearm.

[@sincerelybryce823]

So happy these are being offered on the regular market

[@JesusisLord-7A]

Just subscribed to your channel. I retired from the Army in 2015. I LOVE THE M9!!! My son bought me a P320. I'm not impressed.

[@guerrierodelgiaguaro]

Sir, your ability and professionality are astonishing, a pleasure to follow.

[@williamgonzalaez229]

Great video! I’m a loyal m9 fan this video made me not loose any faith

[@xxxyyyzzz7739]

M9A3 is a superior weapons platform. I have been using one since its inception. Beretta makes a superior product. I have hundreds of thousands rounds down range with the 92/M9 platform. The M9A3 is hands down my favorite. I shoot competition ISPSA IDPA with my M9A3 and there is no other platform that offers everything the M9A3 offers. I shoot Glock, FN and Springfield as well. Beretta M9A3 is my personal carry pistol and favorite platform. Trusted and accurate companion that I trust my life with!

[@R0o5ter_88]

You’re my first choice for military firearm knowledge 👍🏻

[@hikerbro3870]

I completely agree to the superiority of the A3. The chassis system is completely unnecessary in a military pistol and I fear will simply cause problems. We had enough issues with whole M9s walking away from the armory (sometimes by the hundreds). I can't imagine how much easier it will be to "misplace" M17 components. As far as the A2 program was concerned, those kind of upgrade programs are a mixed bag as far as success is concerned, but I think that the nature of the changes and Beretta's long history would have given it an excellent chance of success. Three best KZbin gun channels: SmallArmsSolutions Paul Harrell Forgotten Weapons Thanks for the BS-Free zone.

[@daniel022209]

Another good gun review channel is Hickok45.

[@MarketAndChurch]

I also enjoy Alabama Arsenal, and if you enjoy long-range precision rifles, Snipers Hide.

[@usmcvet0313]

Nutnfancy and Military Arms Channel are also excellent.

[@hikerbro3870]

@Raphi Yeah, it was a great video. Don't get me wrong. The M17 is a great weapon. I just think that between the two systems as they were released, at the time they were released, the A3 was a better product and did not present the same logistic challenges. Is that still true now? Dunno. Plus, it fits his hand better.

[@laptopdragon]

Paul Harell sure likes the beretta, and I certainly didn't know there's so many different versions that all look the same (aside from the finish). got to look into these a bit more, good video.

[@Dragon_W0LF]

The Beretta M9A3 should’ve been adopted, WHY it’s even better than the original.

[@arieheath7773]

Yeah, wish I could get one though. My state sucks. But hey, at least I’ve got a standard M9.

[@theglacier3367]

@@arieheath7773 Same here

[@watchchat]

Awesome elaboration on the differences between models. I’ve been indecisive between the M9A3 and the TT Elite models

[@SaginawGS]

Thx for the education. I was mostly misinformed on the m9. Maybe i need to buy one now

[@fritzd2116]

SaginawGS Same here. Very interesting info.

[@elementalist1984]

They're actually a good gun. Most of the complaints we had about them in the army were due to the fact they were rarely maintained and abused by officers. As a 91-F I fixed several of them only to find out they'd been broke for months or longer.

[@rickthompson1422]

@@elementalist1984 ...are you from Texas?

[@elementalist1984]

@@rickthompson1422 nope. Never even lived there

[@rickthompson1422]

@@elementalist1984 ....thanks. I know some Fays in central Texas....

[@christopher-ace-azevedo5509]

Great job, very informative, spent a lot of time with the Berreta 92, carried it for almost 2 years through numerous training and an entire year in-country in 05 on a 6 man surveillance and Recon team on multi-day autonomous missions, so yeah I carried it. Guys hated them, no fault of the weapon, it was failures to feed on lowest bidder magazines supplied by Uncle sugar, AKA Uncle Sam. Had aftermarket mags sent in and some factory beretta mags and never had a problem. Sad to see it go.

[@kevinosborne8308]

I love my 92fs police edition, 92A1 and M9A3 G. You can't go wrong with Beretta!

[@hkadera]

I have the 92FS and the price of the A3 stopped me buying one...now I'm looking at it again, damnit!

[@davidbutera5985]

Just grabbed an m9a3 from gun prime 725$ been wanting one since it came out and the price was right! I love it!

[@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop]

Buy once, cry once

[@Sneedmeister]

really really want one of these one day. beretta's are my favorite handguns, and the a3 is everything i could ever want out of the m9 series other than an OD green color instead of FDE

[@flavespo]

Wow I'm Canadian and that pisses me off. Love how precise and detailed you are.

[@adlerarmory8382]

Yeah look at your guys, carrying 1944-45 mfg Inglis P35 until the end of your GWOT participation, worn out guns at unit level being supported by canabalized parts from new condition guns in storage.

[@magnetar2524]

Well at least citizen consumers win. We get a new pistol from beretta.

[@mikerotch6733]

Yes

[@codycharles7147]

Not to mention they were to be manufactured in the USA, and Beretta still does!

[@doctoruttley]

Modern 1911 and the M9A3...best of the best. Own lots of Glocks, mostly for my friends to shoot as they are inexperienced.

[@JoelRyanMusic]

What a fantastic video. Thanks for the info. I bought an A3 5000 rounds ago and really haven't found much info about them. Love the little stories and explanations you put in the vid.

[@tr_vmi4844]

This is excellent! And I've always loved the M9.

[@jimrodriguez8047]

Great detailed review...learned a few new things about the M9’s

[@RichiesHouse]

So better chance of hitting lotto then my beretta jamming - the 92 is the greatest handgun ever made . Nothing else feels or handles like it . It is the best

[@nicholasstilley2370]

I know this is late but this makes the task and purpose video on the M17 even more engaging

[@hydroplaneconvoy8130]

I have the A1&A3. Best video on KZbin explaining things. Thank you bro.

[@jeffreymiller7496]

Welcome Back, how was it in You Tube “Jail”? Missed your excellent content.

[@petesheppard1709]

Thanks for a very informative video! This history of the evolution of the M9 is very educational. The military certainly missed the boat in not simply going with the M9A3 upgrades. The parkerized Checkmate mags were per milspec. Parking was not a problem with single-stack mags like M1911 or double-stack/double feed mags like M14s. It turned out to be a huge problem with the double-stack/single-feed M9 mags, in the 'moon dust' of the Middle East, though the mags passed the 'normal' sand tests. A new polymer finish was developed & specced, and the problem went away, even with Checkmate magazines. However it happened, that mag issue was a big black eye for the M9.

[@adlerarmory8382]

Mil-Spec doesnt mean special.unicorn horn dust mixed with pixie dust. It is the minimum quality the DOD will accept at the bidded price. Made by.the lowest bidder with set asides for protected classes.

[@petesheppard1709]

@@adlerarmory8382 Yep, they have to meet a certain standard. That does NOT mean, 'best'. As private citizens we thankfully have the ability to choose what meets OUR specs, at what we consider the best price.

[@richardmcginty8819]

Chris I sure appreciate your commentary, knowledge and weapons evaluations. Thanks for your hard work and research.

[@grantorino2009]

This channel is pure gold.

[@eloymarquez4783]

Thanks for the in-depth review! This is what real content should look like.

[@raylandraybels9462]

It should be mentioned with the m9a1 and m9a3 mags that not only do they have a slicker pvd coating, but also a rib that is the only part of the magazine body that contacts the rounds.

[@p51mustang24]

Considering that the new pistols were a minimal upgrade, if anything, the m9a3 should've been a no brainer. I'd probably prefer glocks but they should have just upgraded an already perfectly good system. Until they develop a new caliber, any change in handgun is going to be a sidegrade or a very minor upgrade.

[@burmiester1]

The APX is better than a Glock, it's what the military should have adopted but didn't. Glock screwed the pooch because they didn't even bother to meet the requirements for a modular pistol. They were so confident they were going to win.

[@p51mustang24]

The APX is quite nice, but it's a marginal upgrade over the m9. If I personally had an m9 I carried I'd happily switch to an APX, but the considerations are different for the military. And the modular requirement is retarded. The usefulness of modularity is basically limited to civilians living in countries were they can only own one serial number. Same goes for the caliber conversion kits on rifles. 99% of people who buy them never use it.

[@jellyfrosh9102]

what I'm wondering is why do they want a modular handgun so bad? Handguns are barely used in the military.

[@cosmokramer8078]

@@burmiester1 they did meet the requirements for modular. Watch Chris video on the m17 he explains it.

[@null2470]

This is the best channel on YT.

[@injuredoutdoorsman9011]

I was a federal, state and local law enforcement officer, that was disabled in the line of duty. As I try to be an advocate for the disabled 2A, and outdoor communities, I would like to contend that where the use of a polymer guide rod is not necessarily a bad thing, a stainless steel or tungsten one, as well as an addition of a light to the dust cover, does help in reducing felt recoil. The Beretta already has less slide mass, as well as not having the traditional Browning tilt barrel design, which actually help in reducing felt recoil already. Despite not having a modern “disabled pistol” offering (like S&W ShieldEZ & Walther CCP) I do still recommend the Beretta 86 & 32 Tomcat to disabled shooters, with recoil sensitivity and reduced hand strength.

[@saleemsuliman3062]

Thank you sir for your valueble info it means a lot the craftsman ship this Gun offers is priceless. Yup you are right there are many reasons why Berretta never got the contract again and the sig was introduced Which i think is no where near this Masterpiece. And one thing which you mentioned was important was that if army decided to choose another calibre then changing the firearm was justified.

[@Febreze99]

Amazingly comprehensive video... superseded my expectations of the m9a3

[@dilawarkhan7150]

Very nice and comprehensive detailed video. 👍👍 A3 are really nice in target shooting. I love it

[@jjcastleberry3662]

Someone was asleep at Military Acquisition and Procurement Department on the A3 for sure. If i didn't know better ..... I wonder who was getting kick backs on the approved XM17 pistol(s)

[@jrtortellini2540]

I guarantee somebody did. It went thru no testing.. wtf

[@StryderK]

Let’s just say this for me. Just bought a regular M9 last week. Loving the hell out of it. My second will be a Glock G19, mainly as a CCW….The Beretta is after all, a bit of a bollywog to conceal carry. My third will be an AR-15. Fourth? The gun in the video….The M9A3! Simply put, I love the M9 trigger action, the smoothness and the accuracy! Hence why I’m gonna be the owner of two Berrettas soon!

[@StryderK]

After some massive delay, got a G48, G19, M&P-15 Sports II, DD MK12, KUSA KR-103 SFS, and Remington 870, finally put this on layaway, can’t wait to take it home.

[@elonmusk8667]

This is the dude to talk to if you want a Beretta.

[@brunojung1984]

I own civilian version of M18 and M9A3. I love them both but I've been shooting M9A3 almost everyday because I love it.

[@tobinshadwick89]

That for sure will be my next purchase

[@buellboy007]

This is such my hopes to one day on this gun I have a Langdon LTT but that new M9A3 is absolutely gorgeous 1 day I trade to My c z's for that 1

[@candiduscorvus]

Good video. I think Sig is a very good manufacturer and the p320 is most likely going to be a very good weapon for the DoD, but the Beretta pistols were also damned good and the only fault I ever found with them was the weak ammo that was procured to shoot in them. I spent years thinking all 9mm was garbage because the rounds that the Marines would have us shoot were trash. I got out and into the civilian world only to discover that the 9mm ammo available in the private sector is superior to the cheap ammo the Marines would buy, and it made me respect 9mm as a viable round.

[@jaysensmith4154]

Great gun. I wonder why HK never put in the usp ?

[@eatsleepplayrepeat]

Does anyone know why the 92 barrels have been unavailable for over a year everywhere? I want a new barrel.

[@mikes3174]

Great to see you back on here. Keep up the good work!

[@harleydavison4526]

Awesome video! Thank you for doing this video on this subject.

[@grantorino2009]

Damn, this is a good video. Very informative and objective.

[@Armednready87]

Great content and history, always enjoy your videos

[@kevinp5325]

The M92a1 was a solid pistol; I never had any issues with during all the times that I shot it and it certainly was an accurate pistol. I really didn't see the need to replace the Beretta with a brand new pistol, especially with the major overseas conflicts winding down.

[@elementalist1984]

Just curious. But how many people are actually issued pistols overseas. State side it was only officers

[@scottrobbins6216]

I have a Beretta APX carry …. Fine little platform

[@robertrenstrom4668]

As usual, top-notch review and the history about the weapons that you present. I do have one question about the M9 A3 and upgrades to that. I carried an early version of the 92 FS with LAPD back from the early 90s and was wondering if it's possible to upgrade the hardware to M9 A3 level with the exception of the picatinny rail because that takes welding. I want to update it as much as possible as my daughter has become quite fond of the 92 FS and will inherit it when she turns 21. I want to ensure that it is as reliable as possible. It gets about 1500 rounds a year put through it and would have more but I'm cycling each of my guns through her hands so she has a perspective about the jewel that my 92 FS has been.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Robert Renstrom all parts are compatible

[@usmcvet0313]

I agree, I was a big fan of the A3 from the moment it was proposed. Just as was said, if you're sticking with the 9mm what more are you really going to get with another pistol.

[@steven3379]

I'd like to see a follow-up on this video.. 👍

[@larskunoandersen5750]

i love your videos. very good info. Please take a look on the Fabarm FP6 shotgun. I hope shotguns are your thing

[@therealhawkeyeii7888]

Excellent!

[@ashleycalhoun1824]

Working a 92X into my duty/edc system...

[@rafaelarrieta933]

Super well explain SR

[@joelbond7978]

Great video! Thank you for making it

[@LarryLookLike]

Late responding to this video and I do have a couple sigs that are all steel pistols, the p320 you couldn't give me one...PERIOD!!!

[@rb89509]

1:45 The DOD has proven it isn't interested in saving money by doing conversions. If they were, they would quit looking for a replacement for the M4 in 5.56 and just convert it to 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC-II.

[@johnwilliams9179]

Very interested in getting an M9a3, the standard m9 always felt uncomfortable in my smallish hands

[@hardtarget2359]

Great video Chris! Glad your back! I would love to see the M17 vs M9! Hey I gotta idea 💡! Take a M17 and M9 and use that 20k rds you got stacked up over there on your shelf and do the test yourself! Lol! Shooting 1k per gun per video for the next 10 weeks! I would watch.

[@treerat7631]

The M17 is junk and should have went with Glock instead

[@melmatrix1669]

So baretta sued the government and thought somehow they would get a renewed contract from them??? I never knew about this. Thanks for the info

[@alcodie1558]

First . I wondered why the trigger guard was thicker , now I know . To beat people over the head without fear of damaging the gun . Second . I think the reason why the army went with Sig over Beretta was because of politics over reason ... The right person got their palms wet if you know what I mean !! Third . This was a very good vid . I always learn something from your vids . Good stuff : )

[@donniesanders3780]

I believe the a3 should have had the nod but its not the 1st with a threaded berrel my 92a1 is suppressor ready even on the box description

[@rickkahapea5361]

Great video. Great job brotha.

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

thank you, you are right.

[@jessitaylor4170]

They should have went with the M9A3, they would have saved money on training and parts.

[@RichiesHouse]

The modern 92 in any version is one of the most reliable and accurate out the box pistol . Just always use beretta mags . All the issues with the military beretta were for no Maintencae on springs and Amal parts . Also using cheaper locking blocks and garbage mags

[@RichiesHouse]

Beretta - “the locking lugs with last 18,000 nato rds” Everyone in 2021- “it’s ok , we only use 50 rds a year now . “

[@sergionatali3071]

Very good video!

[@KZSoze]

The outgoing Beretta was demonstrably more reliable than the incoming Sig. Add in the training curve force wide, the additional man hours, logistics, etc.. it's tens of millions spent for no reason. Just like that gem 1911 the Marines picked up, and couldn't get rid of fast enough.

[@mattcarlisle5040]

Should’ve chosen any over the Sig

[@dennissmith6783]

I always liked the Beretta but it was big and heavy compared to others

[@jamesbreeden3061]

I agree totally with Mr. Bartocci. I am a Sig fan, but not of the P320. I have a Beretta M-9 too and I think we should have gone with the Beretta over the P320. I like the Sig 226, 225, 229 and 220 but the P320 in my opinion is inferior to the Beretta. They should have stay with the Beretta and left the P320 alone. I have shot all of these pistols and have carried all of them. I am not a fan of striker fired guns. They should have kept the Beretta in service or gone with a 226 if they wanted a 9mm, but since they had the Beretta, they should have kept it. It is a very good service pistol.

[@vincentfauconnier1460]

hi, great video. was wondering if you could only have one, would it be the new M9A3 now or an older version? I like the look of the new M9A3 in black and am thinking of getting that over the M9A1

[@kylec.g3719]

I’m no expert by any means and there’s people that are way smarter than me but I have 2 theories as to why beretta lost the contract. First being the lawsuit against the government. Second is that they had all these years to upgrade their platform but only did it when the us military said we want to replace you. I equate it to a relationship ship where your partner keeps saying they’ll change and be better but never does until you leave but by then it’s too late. All that being said I just bought an M9A3 and can’t wait to get it

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Actually, wrong on the second. Beretta, like Colt has regularly presented the government with updates to improve the weapons but since the requirements never changed to warrant updates the DoD refused. The government never adopted the significantly better locking block for the m9 pistol. Only when COTS guns were bought did the military get the updated parts.

[@kylec.g3719]

@@SmallArmsSolutions oh ok! I didn’t know that!

[@vicsage83]

I have a 1911 and a P320 already…I’m starting to consider a 92 variant. That and a BHP or clone

[@pigpaul]

Great video, love the details!

[@thewatcher4552]

US Military has failed in the small arms arena lately. As usual militarily and government over spending. What ever happened to a replacement service rifle? That is going to be another debacle! SMH pray for our boys on the ground! Great video!

[@jacksman7]

I agree with Chris but I will say the one downfall to the 92 series is that you can't have a frame mounted red dot and they are the future. There is not enough 'dead space' in that area of the slide to mount one. I am hoping someone in the future can work around this issue because I do like the 92 series.

[@sadrocket1]

top info sir. thanks a lot

[@maxerickhuapayavaldiviezo755]

Hola muchas gracias por tan preparado video, te envío un saludo desde Perú y es que gracias al traductor de KZbin puede entender todo tu vídeo, aparte tengo una pregunta que hasta ahora nadie a podido responder, o no hay información sobre cuál es el tipo de aluminio con el cual se fabrica el armazón de la pistola beretta, ya que tengo una duda si es que el armazón es muy fuerte y no se vaya a romper con golpes o incluso munición de defensa personal como la jhp + p de hornady critical duty.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

The frame and slide will handle +P fine. No aluminum or steel frame can take steady diets of +P+

[@DarkPhoenixTSi]

The problem with the Checkmate was on the DoD's head, not Checkmate. CM told the DoD that the coating would cause a problem and they should use another coating, but the DoD insisted.

[@joeyacosta1871]

Have you tried the mnine three .without the plastic piece and only the strong.like past tense SSP style guns .like n notch or v notch.stlye type.

[@marincapital2586]

Aside from the threaded barrel which will be lost by soldiers, it is THE perfect handgun for our troops

[@onetruedodd]

Good info. I think your audio could be better. Are you using the lavalier mic audio? It still sounds like a camera microphone. I recommend lowering the input gain (volume) on your camera input or recording device (or the microphone itself) and roll off some of the high end (if you can).

[@flyontop]

Excellent video!

[@joelwhitus7878]

I love your channel man.. very knowledgeable guy.. keep it going

[@joethebourbonman]

I agree the upgraded M9 is a very good gun. I think the govt really just wanted a striker fired system. As to the modularity, do you think the P320 and the ability to field both the M17 and M18 has any advantage? I know the US has not bought any M11s in a long time, but it seems like a lot of organizations have moved to a compact sized handgun--was the xM17 pitched as having the potential to save cost by replacing both the M11 and the M9 by having both M17 and M18 versions?