The Bersa TPR9C - A Great Gun (When It Actually Works)

[@757Flynn]

At 17:00 when you pulled the trigger in SA the hammer hits and moves the slide into battery making it able to shoot and you did in DA. I noticed on my TPR9 the extractor was sticky and needed to be worked in(worn down bit). this is what I believe is happening, the round and the extractor are not meeting up right causing the gun to not go fully into battery.

[@davidholl20]

I have had one for about 6 years and had the same issue. I used different ammo and had same issues. I sent it in for warranty they found a Burr on the firing pin. And I also had to pay for the shipping. It was taken care of and it shoots fine now. Just ran 400 rounds through it last weekend.

[@Aspen7780]

I have had a trp9c for about 5 years and it’s been fantastic. Shoots well, aims well, easy recoil, comfortable, easy to operate and clean. I have never had a single malfunction in it. Easiest gun to take apart. I’ve always had it on my bucket list to get the full size someday. I’ve especially been happy with it being da/sa hammer fired and the wonderful safety/decocker. Great trigger. It’s a tank. Sorry to see you had issues with yours. I’ve never had a single round fail to fire. I’ve put a variety of ammo brands through it through the years and never experienced what happened to you. My only complaints is that is a little chunky for iwb carry. Also I wish that it had an option for a 15 round mag. Spare mags can generally be a little hard to find. I understand the full sized mag should fit the compact but no one makes a sleeve for it. I wish they would make a subcompact version of this or a single stack. Or just something a little thinner and easier for iwb carry but keeping all the features. Dedicated holsters can be hard to come by too. I would definitely recommend this gun as a quality gun for anyone who doesn’t want to spend Sig p229 prices for a similar gun. I reached out to bersa once in my life for a problem I had with a bersa thunder 380cc. They were very helpful. They shipped a replacement gun which I had in my hand in about 2 weeks.

[@MoeLarryTheCheese]

It's the Magtec ammo . everything I have has the same light primer strike issues when using it.

[@DaGunGuy]

Unfortunately, when I got it back, I also tried Fiocchi which failed to fire and that same box of Magtec worked fine with my other 9mms.

[@ab39z]

I've had these guns on my radar for a long time. My concern with your review is that you appear to have used only one brand/weight of ammo for your test. The first thing I look at when I have light strikes is the ammo. You might have a bad box, or just cheap ammo altogether. Although, I've never had a problem with Magtech. I would try at least two other brands of ammo before writing off an otherwise good gun.

[@CS-zo7wx]

This is the only questionable review I’ve ever seen. I’ve been an owner since the first version about 7 years and 1000+ rounds later I have never had a single issue. I’ve never seen anyone ever question reliability or feeding. Maybe he got a dud?

[@RonV535]

The misfires are being caused by the slide not going fully forward (watch the back of the slide/frame interface). Could be weak recoil spring, something slowing down the slide while reciprocating, etc. I’ve noticed on my Thunder9 and TPR9 that the springs are a little light as compared to other 9mms I have. Have not had any issues. IMO, if shot more and any rough surfaces smooth out, slide travel will be more smoother and faster reducing failures. Stronger spring would work but would need to find the right size to drop in.

[@jimpumphrey7713]

And maybe a little oil might help. It could also be the ammo. To me it appears the extractor isn't fully engaging the rim of the round so probably a bur or lack of lube or cheap ammo. But I agree with you that a longer break-in period would likely solve the problem.

[@lintlicker4178]

Could be crap ammo

[@katanapr3]

I have both the TPR9 full size and the TPR9C and they have worked great for me. I have been carrying the TPR9c for almost 4 years now. The best thing of any Bersa is their trigger, smooth and super short reset. The bad thing and only thing I have change was the sights, they are plastic and known to brake off while shooting. I replaced both guns sights as soon as I bought them. All in all they are good litte guns that don't brake the bank.

[@eugeniog-arg.potencia]

Hello, I am Argentine and I own 3 Bersa pistols. Thunder 22X caliber 22lr, BP40CC caliber .40 S&W and TPR9T caliber 9mm. Keep in mind that I also have CZ, Tanfoglio, S&W, Beretta, Taurus, Colt, Browning, Keltec pistols and a Hatsan semi-automatic shotgun. I like guns and shooting with them in caliber .22lr, 9mm, .40 S&W and .45ACP. Bersa pistols are of very good quality, resistant and with a great variety. It would be good if you paid attention to these weapons, since they are at the same level as other very selected ones in the USA and have nothing to envy.

[@senorx942]

Le salio malisima la Bersa amigo, y no, ni se le acerca en calidad a las primeras marcas que nombras. Seamos realistas

[@eugeniog-arg.potencia]

@@senorx942 Como verás en mi comentario, yo tengo 3 armas y nunca tuve inconveniente alguno y tengo armas importadas y no hay diferencia, como para envidiarles. Todo depende para que uso y que trato le des. Solo lo que es aconsejable en la TPR9 es alivianar el gatillo. El gatillo de fabrica de las BP*** es tremendo, en todas las otras armas que poseo, no hay uno igual. Quizás no tuviste suerte... Anda a tirar con la nueva B1911 y te vas a sorprender. Tengo 42 años de tiro. Creo saber algo de armas. Suerte

[@senorx942]

@@eugeniog-arg.potencia Una cosa es q anden bien y otra es que no tengan nada q envidiarle a primeras marcas. Te enumero: el pavon de las Bersas es una c4gada, las terminaciones medio pelo, precisión buena pero ni cerca de las otras, ajuste general nada que ver. El guión de las Tpr se me han volado varios. No seas necio, ni cerca estan de las primeras marcas.

[@eugeniog-arg.potencia]

@@senorx942 a vos te tocaron malas. No sé que tendrás de ellas, pero te detallo las mías... Thunder 22x, a 15 metros agrupa en 8cm, funciona bien con balas aguila y remingtong, se traban alguna Orbea cobreadas. Bp40cc, arma de porte, cañón corto, agrupó en 15m en 12 cm. Municion empleada Magtech de 155gr y 180gr. Pavón marcado por la pistolera. TPR9T full frame, resorte de disparador aceptable, agrupación en 15m en 5 cm, pavonado cerakote super resistente. Munición empleada Magtech de 124gr a 147gr. No sé que tenés vos, llévala a Bersa y que te la repare la garantía. Yo la única modificación que hice, fue ponerle una Red Dot automatica a la BP40CC. Personalmente, muy conforme con ellas.

[@eugeniog-arg.potencia]

@@senorx942 por otro lado, mira los comentarios de los lectores. Sin muy pocos los que hablan mal de ellas. Fallas tienen todas las armas, no son todas perfectas al 100%. Por eso tenés garantías en todas las marcas. Que vos tengas preferencias por otras, es otra cosa.

[@Pmansell03]

I had the exact same happen to mine and it only got worse. Through the warranty it was shipped to American Arsenal and Armory in Indiana. I spoke to them on the phone and they were familiar with this problem. They replaced the safety block and another part. Since getting the gun back I've put boxes of rounds through and have total confidence as a ccw. I would highly recommend getting this work done and keeping it.

[@Pmansell03]

On a side note I paid shipping also. Wasn't happy about this , but the work was performed. A couple of weeks ago had warranty work on a taurus revolver. I was excited about the free shipping. The pistol made its way back to me only to find in the box a pistol that still didn't function and a repair order saying fixed.

[@DaGunGuy]

Awesome! TY - that's who is getting this gun as well. They seem like they really know their stuff.

[@Pmansell03]

It took me at least 50 to 100 rounds to quit wincing anticipating it to light primer strike. But now it's a great and accurate gun to have around. Outperforms or holds its ground next to my full-size pistols at the range

[@ulisesrivas6983]

I am Argentinian and first of all I wanted to say that I loved your video and right now I am subscribing to your channel, on the other hand I think that the problem of both the magazine and the missing shots are because your BERSA is defective in my opinion they should have given you a new one, the police do not have that type of problem at all otherwise they would choose another weapon, Thank you and enjoy it and I hope you can get a BERSA in optimal conditions

[@curtshelp6170]

Thanks for shining a light on an a product not being talked about.

[@photobyseat]

I've had one of these since 2019 and have only had one failure and that was a stovepipe when my daughter-in-law was shooting it. Just to note some of the differences between your gun and mine is that the magazine is not nearly that loose, and my trigger pull is much firmer. I double checked several older reviews and the double action pull was reading about 9+ lbs with the single action pull at just under 5 lbs. This makes me think that your hammer spring is a quite a bit lighter than most. Also @RonV535 commented about the out of battery issue. At the 18:32 point in your video is the clearest view of the slide jumping into battery as the gun mis-fires then it was able to fire on the next pull. I think this in the case in all the other mis-fires. Another Gun-tuber who was testing target ammo came across some Magtech ammo (rounds that I have shot frequently with no issues) that created a similar issue. Hhis box had rounds that measured just out of specs, in fact some cases were slightly oval. Hopefully this is the case and not a bad chamber or other problems. I guess that the magazine fitment could create this problem too. I also checked the sights on my gun and they stick to a magnet so they are steel of some new plastic that is magnetic. Anyhow I love my gun and to answer you question about the quality of new guns, I think the quality of everything has been slipping for some time.

[@johnmcknight8109]

I own both the TPR9 and the TPR9c. Both are excellent. The finish (blue) may not be as fine as a Sig, but the handguns shoot just as well as Sig. Bargain priced high quality reliable pistols.

[@DaGunGuy]

I agree with you about everything except the reliable part.

[@cliff8680]

I bought a tpr9c. And I love it. Fired everything from 90 grain bullets to 147 grain.

[@alexandernalerio1108]

I've been in the uruguayan Army for 20 years, shot Colt 1911s , Browning HP, Glock 19 and some others. Last year I bought a Bersa tpr9, man that piece is awesome, 17 rounds, súper easy to shoot and maintain, am impressed how accurate and flat shooter is, haven't had any issues so far and it shoots stones if you load them to it. Other pro pistols can't say the same, if you use reload ammo they get sick

[@spwiggins]

I have 2 Bersa pistols, 380 & 9mm. Had them for years and have never had any problems with them.

[@dougclark1191]

I up graded from the UC9C and have fired thousands of rounds each and have never had a single issue either, great guns, It is my EDC and I trust it to go bang every time I pull the trigger.

[@DaGunGuy]

Good luck with that 👍

[@drdepena1958]

Did you do something to the gun before firing it? I have the TPR9C since 2019 and it has yet to misfire. All I did was change the sights with TruGlo Sig #8 when i first got it. I lost count of how many 9mm bullets I have fired when I reached 2000, and that was in 2021. This is the best CCW I have ever owned. Period.

[@DaGunGuy]

Nope. Mine light strikes a lot

[@davidj3755]

I have the same experience when it comes to light primer strikes in single action. About 10% or less of the time with regular range ammo. I still love the gun and so fun to shoot, but I honestly can't trust my life with it unless I knew for sure that it's truly ammo related. I'm hoping that my Hornady hollow point ammo has better primers that will keep my TPR9C reliable.

[@destroyingdadxx2274]

I wanted a compact da/sa gun and it came down to the Bersa TPR9C and the Taurus TH9C. I ended up getting the Taurus and it’s been fantastic. Sounds like you just have a weak hammer spring. Thanks for the video.

[@antoniobaskerville6823]

Great Bersa ❤ Video

[@DaGunGuy]

Thank you!

[@RedeemedXGrace]

Good video about the gun. I have to say though, that I didn't see you switching the ammo to a different brand to rule out the possibility of the ammo being at fault. Also, the loose magazine can affect feeding but not cause a missfire. Once the cartridge is in the chamber, its got to fire if the primer is hit with enough force. First time I see a review showing any kind of failure in this gun.

[@DaGunGuy]

I'm not sure if we did that in the initial video or if it's part of the follow up. But we should have the follow up done within a week. Good news is, after a few burps and a very deep cleaning, the gun now seems to have ate the first 100 rounds of Magtech, Federal and Blazer well.

[@RedeemedXGrace]

@@DaGunGuy That sounds great. I am looking forward to watch the follow up. Keep the good work, and thank you.

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

I have a discontinued Bersa Thunder .40 S&W from the 90s that I inherited from my late brother. It's DA/SA, manual safety/decocker, 7.5", 13+1. I like it other than it is heavy for me to shoot one handed as my wrist gets tired and the muzzle drops. I have pretty small hands so a 6" gun or so works better for me. The hard part is finding one with all of the features of the 90s gun with less of the size. It's really a two handed compact duty pistol more than a real one handed concealed carry gun. But it seems like once you get around 6" almost every gun becomes plastic striker fired junk with fewer features. Right now pretty much only Beretta and H&K offer a combined decocker/manual safety in a subcompact gun. H&Ks are expensive and their decocker is in a weird location behind the cocked hammer. Beretta's PX Storm Carry is still a bit big at 6.8" and their safety/decockers tend to be high up and behind the thumb. It also looks like a stapler. About the only difference between this gun and the Thunder .40 S&W is the 9mm shaves off an inch in length. I would expect closer to 6" considering nearly 30 years of technological progress. What's the benefit of going to 9mm in a gun this large when I have a .40 S&W with a more powerful round, same ammo count, and exactly the same features? An inch in smaller size isn't enough to justify the tradeoff. Where are extremely small, high capacity, DA/SA hammer fired guns? Not everyone wants a Glock or Sig P365 clone. I wish CZ made their 75 Compact as a subcompact or micro compact with a manual safety/decocker/DA/SA. Even better a Browning Hi Power clone with all the features of the Bersa in a subcompact/micro size. There really is no excuse for every gun not to have these features as at least options because they allow more conditions of carry. Modern new shooters just don't want to learn how all the controls of a 1911 style gun works, and gun enthusiasts are offended at the thought of a thumb safety. Thumb down on the upswing. Decock before holstering. Train. That easy.

[@reyt2304]

what ammo ?

[@Jeffroh]

Ive had 4 and theyre the best guns ive ever had.

[@kirbygraham8265]

I edc a bersa tpr9c and have had zero issues with it. It’s been 100% reliable and accurate. I do wish the grip was a little thinner, but other than that it has been exactly what I was looking for.

[@jalcanites2939]

My hand is the smaller side as well. What will you compare the grip thickness to? I can comfortably grip a glock 19, a CZ P01, HK P30.

[@kirbygraham8265]

@@jalcanites2939 the grip is thicker than the p01 and the 19, but it’s grip is also shorter than them, which makes it easier to conceal. Also the tpr9c magazines have a pinky extension so you are still able to get a full grip.

[@timothyfrederick2099]

Totally agree 100%. I loved everything about the pistol Except the grip. I must have smaller hands. IMHO the grip thickness is its Only drawback. Also because the way the grips are designed nobody really makes replacements

[@Lugnutz89]

wish I would have bought the ultra compact when I got my Thunder Pro 9. I don't like the updated look of the TPR but I'll still probably get one. Sorry you had issues, I'm guessing they are rare as most of the reviews I've seen have all been good.

[@jefflang9432]

It's not the ammo, it's the gun. The TPR9C is my third Bersa, The others are flawless. I'm having problems with a light primer strikes. I have used at least 4 different brands of ammo. I have replaced the firing pin and spring, and also replaced the recoil spring. Still having problems. The first 50 or 60 rounds through the gun were perfect. Then it starting having the light primer strick issue. Any suggestions?

[@ketchman8299]

Did you clean the gun before shooting, ie clearing the firing pin channel of possible fried grease/ debris? Did you try multiple types of ammunition? Will be ineterested to see the follow up vid.

[@7239Matteo]

I have the same TPR9c. I've put over 500 rounds through it with no issues.

[@DaGunGuy]

Could be I just got a bad one?

[@blackout7615]

None were light strikes. Uour slide isnt going fully forward into battery and the first hammer strike is sending the slide forward completely and then the second strike fires ss normal. Do a plunk test of your ammo into the chamber. Check your extractor and lube everything and run some hotter ammo. Try a firm grip and run a few hindred rounds through it. Every mechanical device needs to be broken in.

[@birdman6499]

I hope we see an update when you get it back.

[@DaGunGuy]

Working on the video BUT spoiler alert: it does not have a happy ending!

[@ilyar5868]

Were those misfires due to the gun or the ammo ?

[@DaGunGuy]

The gun

[@user-jetmachinist]

I bought the tpr9c in 2019 and didnt have any problem with it , been reliable ever since , replace the sights with truglo tritium pro and its sig#8 sights , bought 4 sets of recoil springs from eagle imports when they still exist , the magazine on the full size tpr9 will work on the tpr9c . I guess mine was made better . The play on the magazine can be fix by an o ring . I hardly shoot it now because there are new breeds of guns available that are better.

[@gregorycarter2259]

I experiencing the same thing when I checked it was failure to feed shoots great using good 115 grade amino.

[@alancartwright1172]

Finally a DA guy hooray

[@Jyhtosixa]

Bersa tpr9 CL is beautiful

[@claudiomaio2489]

Unfortunatelly you have buy a lemmon; My tpr9 fires more than 500 rds Magtech, in 124 gr, 115 gr, holow points, also steel case ones and no problem at all. Here in Argentina Bersa are by far the best option in handguns

[@jamespetrelli3729]

R thumb hitting decocker?

[@DaGunGuy]

I don’t believe so.

[@martincalcopietro9537]

Hi James, I'm from Argentina. The security features of the TPR series are made to match the necessities of the police and military forces. The controls are very intuitive and functional. I really encourage you to get any Bersa, but in my not so informed opinion the Bersa Thunder 380 plus (or combat plus) is the best of the bunch

[@ShowemRight]

Out of the Box, BERSA should change their policy for shipping..or perhaps they are factoring in the price they charge for their firearms which is 1/3 less than Sig Sauer ..keep us updated sir, and perhaps another range day with this firearm when it returns to you.

[@rbm6184]

The Bersa TPR9C - A Great Gun (When It Actually Works) No I have not had any of those problems with my TPR9C. No misfires, no out of battery, and no loose mags. Send yours back in under warranty and get it fixed. Mine is accurate and reliable with over 600 rounds of various ammo and still flawless. I bought it back around 2017. It is my favorite sub compact. I will say I have seen others only have problems including catastrophic failure with reloaded ammo that Bersa says to not use or void warranty I think like most manufacturers. It is even worse if that reloaded ammo is lead bullets where plain lead builds up very quickly in that polygonal barrel and key holing will happen or worse. I shoot mostly just factory ammo in it or if I do use my reloads then they are powder coat or jacketed bullets.

[@davidforsberg5675]

Try switching brands of ammo. I had a similar issue with walther and magtech switch to federal no issues

[@DaGunGuy]

That seems to be the advice Bersa gave as well. The problem is when I get a new gun, I expect it to shoot all the ammunition it gets fed. Otherwise it’s unreliable for self defense. ie just a purchasing mistake

[@mukarramkhan1477]

Beautiful pistol

[@Mauser_.]

What kind of a person decides to save a few dollars by refusing to reimburse for shipping a defective gun, recklessly tarnishing the firm's reputation and leaving a bad taste in the customer's mouth? I had planned to buy a TPR9 for home & a BPCC to carry but after hearing this I'm never touching that company as a matter of principle. Hope the change they saved on shipping was worth it 👍

[@farhan.naushad]

I had the same experience with TPR9C. I so wanted to make it my CCW but can’t after that experience. Warranty support is non existent.

[@atoadigi]

Wow, very strange. I've been thinking of getting one of these to add a DA/SA pistol to the collection without breaking the bank and I've watched a ton of video reviews and everyone says it's a great, reliable pistol.

[@DaGunGuy]

I read those too before I bought it BUT …

[@CharlesOglesby-e4g]

The missfires could be ammo related. Try a different brand to confirm your findings.

[@DaGunGuy]

The ammo worked fine in all other guns I used it in: HK P30L, HKP30SK, Ruger SR9 (yep it's old) & Sig P320. I'm thinking the spring is weak and needs to be replaced - but we'll see when they send it back.

[@user-zv2eu1vj4l]

It appears that he used Magtech brand ammunition. That’s a total of ONE brand that he used. He NEEDS to try several others.

[@seniorp9444]

Needs stronger hammer spring but guess there’s no way to order one

[@thearcherii1176]

It is a very new gun and it loosens with use. You need to cycle the ammo but you don't need to shoot it.

[@mrdato116]

Most boomerfudd review there is

[@elpato1990]

I'm from Argentina and this si very segure gym and poker

[@arby2348]

My TPR9C was doing that. I sent it to a service center and they fixed it under warranty. Works fine now.

[@DaGunGuy]

I got mine back and it worked beautifully for 60 rounds and then ... light strike misfire

[@mr.personhumanson6871]

"Italians" haha

[@carlhansen8672]

Good video. I almost gave this a chance but after watching vids I decided it wasn't a good choice. I ended up buying A Taurus GX4 Carry.

[@ShowemRight]

I own 3 BERSA'S chambered in 9mm, and not 1 of them malfunctioned ..I mean my BERSAS shoots just as good as my SIG's , and a lot cheaper too in price, never quality.

[@PaulPerryArgentina]

Strange, Bersa makes great guns...Yours might be defective. They rarely fail. I paid 400 bucks for mine a few weeks ago.

[@sergiopeacemaker4688]

Hello friends of the da gun gay channel. The problem you had with your TPRC is quite common here in Argentina, I saw pistols coming out of the box that had the rear sight blown off or the retainer broken slinding. Other luckier ones have had them for years without any problem, this indicates that qualitycontrol fails. Personally, seeing all these flaws in Bersa as in its competitor Taurus ( witch does not have a lifetime warranty), i chose to buy supeior quality weapons,for example H&K or CZ or Beretta. Surely someone would have had a problem with any of these brands, but surely many less than with Bersa or Taurus, etc. From Bs As Argentina,cordial greetings.

[@DaGunGuy]

TY for the info!

[@senorx942]

Hola, llevela a la garantía, esa pistola tiene muchas fallas. Yo personalmente tengo una tpr9c y funciona perfectamente. Lamentablemente con Bersa le puede pasar que le toque una pistola mal terminada. Bersa no es Glock, Sig Sauer ni ninguna primera marca. Con Bersa el control de calidad lo hace el usuario final, usted tuvo la mala fortuna que le toco una fallada. Saludos

[@eugeniog-arg.potencia]

@@senorx942 y vos te pensas, que las otras marcas nombradas o reconocidas no tienen fallas?

[@senorx942]

@@eugeniog-arg.potencia En mucha menor medida, usted me quiere hacer creer que las motos Zanella son de igual calidad que Honda o Yamaha. La gente paga el doble porq le gusta gastar nada mas 🤣🤣🤣

[@eugeniog-arg.potencia]

@@senorx942 bueno... Quédate vos con tu opinión. Yo tengo la mía fundada y en base a mi experiencia en armas. Todo el mundo elige Glock y sin embargo es una pistola que en EEUU cuesta entre 500 y 700 dólares según el modelo y hay otras marcas que salen unos 2600 como la CZ Shadow 2. La diferencia está en la calidad y el precio, pero ambas funcionan muy bien y son precisas. La Beretta 92 Fs también lo es, y cuesta 600 dólares. Compra lo que quieras, yo compro Bersa y otras marcas mejores, pero la que críticas no es mala. Si fuera así, para que la tenes? Venderla y cómprate una mejor. Saludos

[@senorx942]

@@eugeniog-arg.potencia Pero no lees lo que escribo?? Tuve y tengo Bersa y estoy conforme por lo que pague. Pero vos decís q son de igual calidad que las primeras marcas y es una BU RRA DA

[@eugeniog-arg.potencia]

@@senorx942 está bien Burro.

[@lintlicker4178]

You used magshit ammo, I've had serious issues with that brand out of Beretta's and Brownings too

[@timothyfrederick2099]

I own one of these. This is the ONLY negative review I have ever seen of this pistol. I bought it for all the features you mentioned And the reviews I read on it. Honestly I haven't got to shoot it yet. But My 1st thought watching your video was as Others have said. Try Different Ammo. By judging the gun Without Eliminating the Ammo First your doing a dis-service to Bersa, the Gun itself, and your viewers.

[@DaGunGuy]

Thanks for watching and commenting. I tried a bunch of different ammo. The gun was defective - sent back and eventually fixed. We'll have the follow up video out shortly.

[@ZeBra235]

I’ve taken my gun in twice for the same issue. I don’t want that gun or a replacement. I want my money back. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYaygZqbfb9om7c&si=Lzo0eFL3vrRWiD5C That video is for the Spanish-speaking audience. The next one will be on a channel consumed in the North and aimed at an English-speaking audience. Please, people in the United States, do not buy these guns. They are of poor quality, and the company's after-sales policy is nonexistent.

[@ecocharliezulu]

100% crap! Bersa is not used by Arg armed forces. The .380 has onlyan external resemble to the ppk; it has a completely different trigger system and different dissasembly procedure.

[@DaGunGuy]

It is my understanding that: at the end of the 1990s Bersa won the contract for supplying a new standard sidearm for the Argentine Armed Forces and Argentine Federal Police that were looking to replace their aging Browning Hi-Power pistols. The Bersa Thunder 9, an evolution of the Model 90, was chosen.

[@malcolmjohnstoneinstructorITB]

@@DaGunGuy Indeed Bersa is mainly a supplier of the different police forces in Argentina but it also provided guns to the armed forces which also still use their old HP35s as part of their equipment. Now the .380 Bersa although nowadays shares the word "thunder" as part of their name, has nothing to do with the TPR models. Is more like the bulked up version of the traditional Bersa .22lr pistol. Regards from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

[@Revel214]

Have had one of these for several years now, got it from a pawn shop and it has never had a jam, a misfire, or issue of any type after hundreds of rounds. Any and all ammo, including remanufactured. For those who enjoy this pistol, you can carry it in a leather holster from JM4 Tactical or a kydex holster from either Clinger or Pyntek Holsters. Sorry you got a bad one. Mine has been a tank.

[@4thTribe-v6d]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 USING TRASH AMMO IS THE PROBLEM NOT THE GUN MINE WORKS FINE AND I HAVE PUT 1050 ROUNDS THRU IT AND NOT ONE MISFIRE I USE PREMIUM SPEER GOLD DOTS !!

[@DaGunGuy]

I'n not sure if I'd consider Magtech "trash" ammo. It works fine in all the other pistols I ran it through. Also, it seems like it's a pretty common problem for people based on the other comments. BUT, as a general rule, I agree with trying to avoid "range" ammo or super cheap ammo.

[@jdontcare8520]

Bro, I've been running cheap steel case Magtech ammo for almost 2 months now. Over 2,000 rounds shared between 6 guns and not one problem. I'm not knocking the gun, but I'm sure his needs a heavier main spring.