The best 2 car Honda garage? Honda e EV & Civic gen 1

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The Late Brake Show

The Late Brake Show

Күн бұрын

Two Hondas, one classic Civic gen 1 for weekends and one sensible EV for daily use - surely the best garage mates? The Honda e is probably the most fascinating EV without a Tesla badge. In fact it's probably more fascinating, because its design alone captured the attention and desire of legions of car enthusiasts who don't even give a toss about zero emission cars. There is no denying this kind of design is precisely what Honda does best. In this episode Jonny drives the Honda e for the second time, this time on UK soil and not in a hurricane.
The excuse to drive this gorgeous slice of seventies surburbia gen 1 Civic is because the Honda e borrows so many styling cues from it. Plus, the 137-mile, 35.5kWh, 154PS rwd Honda e is the spiritual successor city car to the first Civic.
Here is how the Honda e compares to its EV rivals:
WLTP Range
Honda e - 137 miles / 220km
Renault Zoe Z.E 50 - 239 miles / 385km
Peugeot e208 - 217 miles / 349km
VW e-Up! - 162 miles / 260km
Mini Cooper Se - 144 miles / 232km
Performance (0-62mph / 0-100kph)
Honda e - 8 secs (Advance spec)
Renault Zoe Z.E 50 - secs
Peugeot e208 - 8.1 secs
VW e-Up! - 11.9 secs
Mini Cooper Se - 7.3 secs
Price (UK on road price INC £3000 government grant)
Honda e - from £26,660.
Renault Zoe Z.E 50 - from £28,995.
Peugeot e208 - from £26,025.
VW e-Up! - from £20,555.
Mini Cooper Se - from £24,900.
BATTERY PACK / POWER
Honda e - 35.5kWh / 134 or 154hp (Advance spec)
Renault Zoe Z.E 50 - 52kWh / 108hp
Peugeot e208 - 50kWh / 136hp
VW e-Up! - 36.8kWh / 82hp
Mini Cooper Se - 32.6kWh / 181hp
1975 Honda Civic 1200 manual
1170cc CVCC
54bhp / 58lb ft
0-60 in 15.1 secs
Top speed: 90mph
32.5 - 38.7mpg
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:15 Honda e previous test vid
1:30 Honda e - the new spiritual Civic?
1:45 size comparison
2:05 Design similarities
3:06 Old Civic driving
4:18 old car smell
4:53 old Civic engine
5:12 Honda S600
6:06 old Civic performance stats
8:21 old Civic town driving
8:58 old Civic dash
9:26 PACMAN!
10:20 Not a Z600 or N600
10:33 old Civic brakes
10:53 Ideal 2 car garage?
12:16 Honda e road drive
12:41 Honda e previous video
13:13 Range of rival EVs
13:21 Performance of rival EVs
14:07 Pricing of rival EVs
14:50 Battery packs of rival EVs
15:37 Advance spec
16:30 Insight gen 1
18:07 Honda e suspension & ride
18:25 Honda e traction control
18:45 Type R to come?
19:45 Fast roundabout driving
20:42 Honda e charging
21:26 0-62 test
22:44 Conclusion
23:28 Subscribe!

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@JackFromMorley
@JackFromMorley 4 жыл бұрын
That dashboard looks even more similar than the exterior, the 2 spoke wheel and slab of wood across the whole thing, holy shit
@timscott3027
@timscott3027 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise how much they'd used from the old civic
@sunnylam2284
@sunnylam2284 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't care if it's short on range compared to its competitors, nor do I care about the higher price point of the Honda, I just do not care. I love the designs and I think this is one of those cars where looks alone sell. Not that it's terrible under its skin, I think, as Johnny pointed out in this video, this is a car that has the mechanicals nailed down and can live up to the looks. I want one, I shouldn't as a petrolhead, but I so so want one.
@Minky92
@Minky92 4 жыл бұрын
Same, love it so much. Got one arriving in September, can't wait :)
@sunnylam2284
@sunnylam2284 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow thank you Johnny for pinning the comment, top job on the video as usual!
@sunnylam2284
@sunnylam2284 4 жыл бұрын
@@Minky92 share with us how it is in the comments when you got yours will ya
@nothanks4425
@nothanks4425 4 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean and love the design too - but just imagine what a knock out the e would be if Honda got the range to be... just average... I want to want one, but premium design packaged with a low end battery pack doesn't work for me :(
@sunnylam2284
@sunnylam2284 4 жыл бұрын
@@nothanks4425 they kept the battery small to keep the weight down and improve the dynamics of the car, plus the lack of range shouldn't bother you if you live in the city centres anyways (sorry if I sound like a salesman from Honda)
@knott4me561
@knott4me561 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this .I honestly think the Honda e is one of the most interesting cars in a long time
@edwardmullan2724
@edwardmullan2724 4 жыл бұрын
Even just the design is great.
@ewadge
@ewadge 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I love everything about this car except the range although I could live with it. The Zoe for instance is a more practical car but the Honda e is so much more interesting and fun
@Eklipze3k
@Eklipze3k 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not necessarily sure I'd call it interesting, but as an all-electric option for people with a regular income and little need to travel long distance, it's hit the nail on the head!
@edwardmullan2724
@edwardmullan2724 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t mind the range, the times I need to travel more that 100 miles in one sitting are pretty rare, and that’s the kind of market that needs to be hit. The people like myself driving small cars relatively short distances in urban traffic daily. We are probably causing a lot more pollution than the ones sitting at 60-70 on a motorway for hours.
@Eklipze3k
@Eklipze3k 4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardmullan2724 Exactly, I fall into that group too. Heck even when I lived further from work it was only 50 miles and I'd have been able to charge at work, so the E would've been fine even then.
@gswilliams
@gswilliams 4 жыл бұрын
Money was tight in the mid 80's when I bought exactly this car with 90k on the clock. I needed 4 wheeels and was told it was reliable.... Initially hated it but gradually as the months passed I came to love the bullet proof reliability and sheer ease of daily use. Bought it for £200 sold it a year later for £250. It was the first of a dozen subsequent Hondas
@paulrobinson3528
@paulrobinson3528 3 жыл бұрын
@Fire Heart lol lol . His existence is probably paid for by a German car company!!!!
@svenn6242
@svenn6242 4 жыл бұрын
Honda E? More like Honda Cupid! I test drove Honda E on some twisty roads here in Norway, and its fantastic! I daily drive a BMW i3s and love it, but the Honda E
@k-ron7403
@k-ron7403 4 жыл бұрын
Head says buy almost any other EV in this segment..... Heart says buy this immediately cause it’s just so delightfully lovely and interesting 😍 Imagine how happy you would feel driving that around day to day. Also the range is most likely perfectly fine for 90% of the population. Everyone seems to think they need mega range with EVs but in actuality most will only need 60 miles max per day if that
@nickporter4279
@nickporter4279 4 жыл бұрын
For me it's not about typical miles per day, it's about how long you'd reasonably want to drive without needing to stop. I'm currently in an EV that does 190 miles in good conditions (ie. now), 125 miles in the worst (winter motorways), 168 miles WLTP rating. Right now it's fantastic, surplus to requirements, I can get to the other side of England on a single charge. But in winter it only *just* manages a reasonable amount of driving between stops. It's fine, but it's my minimum: I think anything less would be a compromise.
@richardupton19
@richardupton19 4 жыл бұрын
Jonny, did you triple take the lady crossing the road at 4:10?! 😂
@valcian1
@valcian1 4 жыл бұрын
Well he is a pervert... (admittedly a car-focused one).
@brokensync
@brokensync 4 жыл бұрын
The rascal
@nazdagg8633
@nazdagg8633 4 жыл бұрын
MuHaHa!
@adamjones4951
@adamjones4951 4 жыл бұрын
Was wondering if someone else noticed this 🤣 what a guy
@SpeedyGonzales95
@SpeedyGonzales95 4 жыл бұрын
He forgot his lines, yoo that booty caused amnesia 😂🤣
@Ottoplemeniti
@Ottoplemeniti 4 жыл бұрын
I love the double-take on the young mom at 4:10
@nickwilson2318
@nickwilson2318 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, best car channel on youtube. Love that you're into normal, attainable cars. Love how gentle and humble you are. Love it! Keep it up!
@iantownsend500
@iantownsend500 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope the Honda E is a massive hit. I love the styling & the interior. I think a Honda E for weekdays & a Civic type R for weekend would be a pretty damn good 2 car garage
@lew0s710
@lew0s710 4 жыл бұрын
crystal meth blue!!😆😆 16:01
@vveerrgg416
@vveerrgg416 4 жыл бұрын
De Lorean owners....👀
@chrwl007
@chrwl007 4 жыл бұрын
To go with Cocaine White?
@rnavstar
@rnavstar 3 жыл бұрын
Heisenberg edition!!
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@_rlb
@_rlb 4 жыл бұрын
That E is such a flawed car. Too small. Bad range. Expensive. I love it.
@oambrosia
@oambrosia 4 жыл бұрын
The range/price equation is flawed but in every other way it is brilliant. Honda at their best.
@dontlookforward4135
@dontlookforward4135 4 жыл бұрын
@@oambrosia lmao if it's not Vtec than who is this honda?
@buddhamack1491
@buddhamack1491 4 жыл бұрын
Too small? It's huge. I'd rather an electric version the size of the original Civic.
@IsadoreWoW
@IsadoreWoW 4 жыл бұрын
Flaws are what give cars character, if everything were good at everything all cars would be the same
@_rlb
@_rlb 4 жыл бұрын
@@IsadoreWoW that's a good point!
@DopravniPoradce
@DopravniPoradce 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly - you are the single most interesting car journo now. You're not whacky, shouty, trying to be cool or click-baity, nor are you trying to be professorial and yet you are uttering facts after facts from your encyclopedic knowledge and as objective opinions as they can get. It's unheard of and very, very entertaining. Thank you, mate. Do more of what you're doing. Btw I like watching Doug DeMuro, he's providing similar type of information about the cars but he's lacking objective context and doesn't mind to make factual errors. He's clearly not a journo. You are doing what everybody should. But then it would quickly reveal that a lot of car journos are lacking knowledge and/or abilities. About the Honda e - this is as close to as can get for a man like me to be considering an EV. I would be an ideal workhorse for my job apart from the range. It's would serve well in 90 % of situations. But that's not enough. You either need more range or another car along with this. Which is not ideal considering the price.
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's very kind of you to say so - thanks. I will keep trying to bring varied and interesting content, so spread the word. J
@DopravniPoradce
@DopravniPoradce 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow Will do. I don't want to be asslickerish by any means but I always liked you best from the crew years ago when I watched Fifth Gear, but you were somewhat behind the "main stars". What you do now is just perfect and I can't wait to watch every new video.
@waclosh
@waclosh 4 жыл бұрын
Ever watched Savagegeese? Similar vibe.
@harleydale8102
@harleydale8102 4 жыл бұрын
if he changed his name he could be like a wacky but different uk version of doug d
@DopravniPoradce
@DopravniPoradce 4 жыл бұрын
@@waclosh Never heard of savagegeese but will try.
@keithusace4352
@keithusace4352 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 75 and this brought back a lot of fond memories I remember mine even having AC.
@wightangel
@wightangel 4 жыл бұрын
The memory of the original civic is Hightower in the film Police Adademy having to rip out the front seat to drive it. Myself I loved the Accord better in the 70,s.
@mariog4707
@mariog4707 3 жыл бұрын
My dad bought a blue one exactly like this in 1975. - P registration. All the neighbours laughed. They weren’t laughing 10 years later when all their Escorts, Minis and Allegros had been replaced three times over and my dads little Civic with 120k miles was still going strong. By far the best car he ever owned.
@robgordon9396
@robgordon9396 4 жыл бұрын
Jonny, you have excelled yourself again with a wonderful 23 minutes of joy. Your love for both cars comes across so easily. Great cars, great editing, great style, well done !
@MrDemonchild71
@MrDemonchild71 4 жыл бұрын
When i was 14 there was an accident at an intersection 30 meters from my house involving one of these civics and a mk2 Cortina. I'm now 46 and still can't forget what I saw and there is no way in the world I would ride in one.
@timm9631
@timm9631 9 ай бұрын
I loved my '78 Civic! But as soon as I saw the new electric Civic, I could see it's 1st gen Civic DNA and immediately fell in love! Thanks for this video Jonny, I love your content!
@BarnClubCars
@BarnClubCars 4 жыл бұрын
My mum had a yellow Civic just like that when we lived in Hong Kong in the mid 80’s. Seeing this brings back so many memories 👍🏻
@grdn2607
@grdn2607 4 жыл бұрын
As a classic mini owner this should've been the way the BMW Mini was designed
@marks-0-0
@marks-0-0 4 жыл бұрын
Also the mini electric shares its body shell with the piston versions which comprises it battery and component placement. Due to their high cost I honestly wouldn't like to buy an ev unless it was a ground up design like the Honda e or the Zoe. Thanks Jonny that was another first class unique episode.
@grdn2607
@grdn2607 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Velo a lot of people in the classic mini community are looking at ev swaps with old Prius batteries as an alternative to the a series engine. Rather than building new evs im surprised conversation companies aren’t bigger that offer swaps from fuel engines in existing cars. Would cut the pollution from production and keep a lot of classic silhouettes on the road
@marks-0-0
@marks-0-0 4 жыл бұрын
@@grdn2607 I'm not suprised. Jonny reviewed a company that will be selling complete kits for minis. The cost will be quite high but then it is new technology.
@FabriSlv
@FabriSlv 3 жыл бұрын
@@marks-0-0 point is that it's as expensive as buying a new electric car, if not even more, and that makes it incredibly niche. That's the problem with our system, we'd rather destroy the old and make something new than fix stuff that can be fixed
@marks-0-0
@marks-0-0 3 жыл бұрын
@@FabriSlv i wouldn't say its a problem with the system because we are still at the start of a new technology. Thats like blaming the system because computers were really expensive at first, thats how it works.
@northeee
@northeee 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Johnny 👍🏻really enjoyed this . Same idea I run a Nissan Leaf 30kwh all week , and have a mk2 Escort Mexico is my weekend toy 😁
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 4 жыл бұрын
Great combo.
@LotoroE
@LotoroE 3 жыл бұрын
My earliest memories of my Gran driving my brother and I about are of her light blue mk.1 Civic. This video, and the sound of that transmission noise in particular, brings all of that flooding back. Thank you Jonny, very much appreciated!
@ten3353
@ten3353 4 жыл бұрын
Mate. Love your reviews ... you’re doing a great job! Keep them coming :)
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, an interesting and exciting electric car from Honda. Love their stellar reliability and build quiality
@slash196
@slash196 4 жыл бұрын
Honda's transmissions have been a disaster for years, but a car without a transmission sounds promising.
@jay-uo2bi
@jay-uo2bi 4 жыл бұрын
@@slash196 Never heard anything bad about their transmissions. I have heard about big oil dilution issues in the 1.5T's but I have never heard anything about their transmissions.
@racoonguy9001
@racoonguy9001 4 жыл бұрын
@@slash196 which transmission?
@slash196
@slash196 4 жыл бұрын
@@racoonguy9001 The Odyssey transmission that found its way into the sedans was a notorious basket case. That's a few years back now but I don't know if they ever actually fixed the problem.
@michaelclark3192
@michaelclark3192 4 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? Honda make the best manual transmissions of any car brand and their CVT transmissions are very reliable too. I've heard their bad auto transmission in it's made in America Odyssey but maybe that's a problem with quality control in American cars.
@gmcminitruck
@gmcminitruck 4 жыл бұрын
That 70's yellow would look good/better on the new one!
@mrjop
@mrjop 4 жыл бұрын
I think I can watch video's of Jonny 24/7. Perfect combination of likeable person, enthusiasm, great content and production. Keep it up mate :)
@dylanh1978
@dylanh1978 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Jonny, I have so much just for both of these cars. Your watch strap matched so well with the Civic it disturbed me. Keep up the great work 👍
@mathmatucla
@mathmatucla 4 жыл бұрын
Please Honda. I’m begging you. Bring some variant of the E to the US.
@Android-vk8yh
@Android-vk8yh 4 жыл бұрын
This is interesting seeing your comment I saw the first Honda a review on KZbin and all the Americans were mainly saying obviously the Range is no good for them but surely in a city this is still perfect for you guys? I reckon if enough of you from the cities contacted Honda they would get them in for you somehow? And how cool would it look pulling up next to an old stretched Cadillac, to be fair you could probably put one in the back of a pickup truck do the long journey then use the Mini to drive around the City👍😂
@BoopBobBeep
@BoopBobBeep 4 жыл бұрын
It will need to make it double the size if it want to sold in theUS market lol.
@mathmatucla
@mathmatucla 4 жыл бұрын
@@BoopBobBeep Whatever changes they need to make. I need the design cues in a car in the US.
@sheilashineleofany822
@sheilashineleofany822 4 жыл бұрын
@@BoopBobBeep yeah appearantly size is matter for US market, look at honda jazz/fit in US.. they are dead
@e.wintertashlin2903
@e.wintertashlin2903 3 жыл бұрын
This car, but with 180mi of range would be perfect for me. I think it’s delightful
@GlennLaycock
@GlennLaycock 3 жыл бұрын
I had the '77 Hondamatic - basically a 2 speed (later they did 3) - "automatic" that you have to change gears by hand. The speedometer has little shift point maximum or a range. It was my parent's car originally - and they were looking at the VW Rabbit and this one. Rabbit was a lot more $$$ but the Civic was just more interesting.
@chrisowens4550
@chrisowens4550 3 жыл бұрын
My father rolled his 73 Civic in bad New England weather, and came out fine. The roof pillars held just fine.
@kelleredward6153
@kelleredward6153 4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent review. So well thought out. Thanks só much.
@SeasideGarage
@SeasideGarage 4 жыл бұрын
The old Honda is a very nice car with its CVCC system... :)
@aricp9173
@aricp9173 4 жыл бұрын
Once they got it working correctly! They named it before they had all the bugs worked out. God the words my dad would use when working on his and trying to get the damn carb adjusted correctly. If I could find one in scrap shape and I could put batteries in it (and I had actual money), have no doubt I'd do it in a heartbeat.
@SeasideGarage
@SeasideGarage 4 жыл бұрын
@@aricp9173 yea i could imagine... it was quite complicated ! Must have been very different to the "normal" cars.. :D
@aricp9173
@aricp9173 3 жыл бұрын
@@SeasideGarage You have NO idea! Wheeler Dealers did one that was 70's yellow and the memories I had and the assorted language I remember being used brought back fun memories. I still have the original Honda tool kit. Adjusting the carb to get it correctly tuned was an art that required standing on one toe, your tongue out of your mouth at the correct angle, and the use of 5 hands, 2 screwdrivers, 4 eyes and mirrors. You had to keep the damn air cleaner on the carb to get the correct setting. The only setup that weird was Chevy's Ramjet fuel injection that normally was taken off and replaced with a carb within 5 minutes of leaving the car dealership.
@gingerbarry3831
@gingerbarry3831 4 жыл бұрын
Modern retro, I’d have one ☝️
@billbarr7591
@billbarr7591 4 жыл бұрын
As long as you don't have to go too far.
@eoghanfla6343
@eoghanfla6343 4 жыл бұрын
Jonny, loving the content lately and I have to say, fair play to you man I see you reading the comments well into the hundreds and that’s cool thing to do. Delighted the channel is going so well for you.
@sandyhagen9155
@sandyhagen9155 4 жыл бұрын
Loved your travel back to the 70s Jonny. The new Honda E looks really good. 😊👍🏻
@MJsteelo
@MJsteelo 4 жыл бұрын
“ I particularly like the HonDURReee”
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 3 жыл бұрын
I have finally worked out what the Honda E face reminds me of. You will not thank me for this: Austin Maxi.
@captainjack6890
@captainjack6890 3 жыл бұрын
Uhmm....no. Its a throwback to the 70's Civic. I figured you would have gotten that from this video.
@mikeyp8020
@mikeyp8020 4 жыл бұрын
I can really relate to your thought process, especially that on paper it's not the best of anything. But emotionally it's such an awesome EV. And thank you for sharing a piece of history with us driving that Civic around. Keep up the awesome content dude!
@erinwiebe7026
@erinwiebe7026 4 жыл бұрын
My son (20) found and rescued a '77 Civic from a local car wrecker a couple of years ago. The body was in good condition which is very surprising for a Canadian example, but it wasn't in running condition. He's since rebuilt the engine and got it road worthy enough to take out occasionally on temporary licenses. I remember seeing these cars all over when I was a child and it really is an experience to get behind the wheel to drive it around. It just puts a big smile on my face whenever I see it. It's just fun & so full of character. It's also a car perfectly designed for an urban environment - its design is purposefully limited and I think that's part of what contributes to it's charm. The Honda e is it's spiritual successor and it's design language speaks volumes to the intent of this car. It really is a modern '70's Civic, right down to its 'limited on paper' specs. That's exactly what the original Civic was all about! I love these cars!
@brentgregory1359
@brentgregory1359 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍. Nissan Zoe 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣
@alexandrawilde4820
@alexandrawilde4820 4 жыл бұрын
Honda rules, especially my Crossroad 🔥 probs less than 10 on the U.K. roads
@domt6802
@domt6802 4 жыл бұрын
I just saw one of those the other day for the first time! Didn't even know it existed
@wlwd2
@wlwd2 4 жыл бұрын
I remember standing outside my girlfriend's house in the winter of 75-76 at college in North East Ohio and watching a CVCC, as they were known in the states at the time, storming up a very snowy, icy, hill past a Buick deuce and quarter which was floundering. My '66 Mustang had virtually zero wheel drive in those conditions so it was a revelation. As soon as I could afford a new car I got my first of several Hondas. Wish the e would be sold here. Thanks for another well done piece Jonny.
@DebraWomack
@DebraWomack 4 жыл бұрын
OMG I had one of those early Civics! I got it in 1986. It was my 1st car. I loved that thing!!! Thank you for the nostalgia!
@simonvarney1124
@simonvarney1124 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha at 4:12 he forgets the car to look at some hot mommas bottom pushing a pram.........love it absolute genius Jonny
@joelcrow
@joelcrow 4 жыл бұрын
Great timestamp! Lol I just paused the video there and Jonny's looking right at that lady's plump butt! Love it!
@seanmurtagh9859
@seanmurtagh9859 4 жыл бұрын
Spotted this too 😂...who can blame him
@aftergrowth
@aftergrowth 4 жыл бұрын
Now I want one, even with its crap range 😂
@chrisbagginsmay2474
@chrisbagginsmay2474 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid. Relaxed and informative. Keep it up Johnny 🤘🏻
@mikeenglish6401
@mikeenglish6401 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Jonny, as usual. The original Civic brings back so many childhood memories 👍 Mike
@robertsedgwick1629
@robertsedgwick1629 4 жыл бұрын
21:45 nissan zoe? lol
@svenwesterlund3405
@svenwesterlund3405 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, sister car to the Renault Leaf!
@staunch2207
@staunch2207 4 жыл бұрын
125 miles of range is fine for 85% of folk to go to work and shop, after all it's just little England not the US .
@andrewolff708
@andrewolff708 4 жыл бұрын
Same in Germany - still it remains the problem that it's awfully expensive for a 2nd car. Being a father with 2 kids and a dog, the EV will remain the 2nd car option.
@Azeria
@Azeria 4 жыл бұрын
staunch2207 yeah, probably, but a lot of people don’t realise how little range they actually need
@andrewolff708
@andrewolff708 4 жыл бұрын
@@Azeria I do agree. It would work for many.
@Reddsoldier
@Reddsoldier 4 жыл бұрын
Also it's mainly aimed at people living in towns and cities who often if going long distance will take the train anyway because in the UK at least it is faster than driving and flying too from a door to door perspective (unless you live next to Stanstead or something like some mad lad)
@nickbaker4857
@nickbaker4857 4 жыл бұрын
@@AntiViGames Or. you could rent a car for that once a year trip.
@MrT33CEE
@MrT33CEE 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always Jonny, test driving the Honda e on Sunday, can’t wait to check it out.
@jr3450
@jr3450 3 жыл бұрын
MrT33CEE How did your test drive turn out?
@rattymcclelland
@rattymcclelland 4 жыл бұрын
Honda E and Honda S660 are 2 of Honda's best current cars on design ethos alone. Love it.
@dauerwerbesendung7045
@dauerwerbesendung7045 4 жыл бұрын
Fabienne: Where's my Honda? Butch: Sorry baby but I had to crash that Honda.
@mightygood1
@mightygood1 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like Honda got the E right everywhere except charge speed and range.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 4 жыл бұрын
Range is really over rated. Just like phone cameras. Everyone goes on about the 500 megapixels and whatever, but all they do is shoot some crappy badly lit pictures to put on instagram lol. For the vast majority of people this range is more then plenty. Faster charging is always better though.
@BoopBobBeep
@BoopBobBeep 4 жыл бұрын
The limitation is due to size & technology. You can only fit this much battery into small space. Let not forget of the safety features air bag which the old car not needed in that time.
@matthewwatt2295
@matthewwatt2295 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of city-dwellers in the UK (myself included) don't have off-street parking to charge a car, and the public charging is spotty at best. I would absolutely love to go electric whenever the government have actually put some effort into sorting that out.
@mightygood1
@mightygood1 4 жыл бұрын
@@BoopBobBeep The Kona has a 6cm longer wheelbase and packs 64kwh net battery.
@mightygood1
@mightygood1 4 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 I would love to see this do 100kw change speeds like the new Peugeot. Short range but quick charging.
@mikejf4377
@mikejf4377 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I like that you entered the data in the lower section so people can do a better choice. I know most of these won’t cross the pond but enjoyed.
@The3osforos
@The3osforos 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the fact that you had the specs of the Honda and its competition in the description! Cheers!
@cheeky_farquar
@cheeky_farquar 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve not seen panel gaps that big since the Tesla.
@leonkernan
@leonkernan 4 жыл бұрын
That just doesn't look comfortable. edit: I was refering to the thumbnail before the premiere, not the video or it's content.
@knifeyonline
@knifeyonline 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you are convinced you want a hot hatch with tight suspension, I don't think it looks uncomfortable 😆
@BoopBobBeep
@BoopBobBeep 4 жыл бұрын
It mean to be a fun car. Comfort is secondary.
@pompeydan3
@pompeydan3 4 жыл бұрын
You really are a very good presenter/journalist, appreciate your videos, cheers mate 👍
@Lopx90
@Lopx90 4 жыл бұрын
Honda e is such a great looking car. I'd definitely get one if I could
@christiannorwik
@christiannorwik 4 жыл бұрын
🙃 Waiting when some Japan drifters hack this new Honda E.
@willmoore505
@willmoore505 4 жыл бұрын
What will the result be? I'm sweating like a Para in a spelling test.
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 4 жыл бұрын
like prince andrew in a tv interview
@rogerfinch7651
@rogerfinch7651 4 жыл бұрын
Another top class vid Jonny 👍 great topic and great non comparison. Always a better angle than the other channels. Loving the way your camera person clung on round the roundabout too 🤢🤣🤣
@itchywitchy
@itchywitchy 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always. I remember seeing lots of Civics on the road in the 1980's they always seemed to be an old persons car at the time but now I really want one! Great to hear your thoughts about the new Honda too, it does look gorgeous.
@mattp4806
@mattp4806 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly due to the price I fear the Honda e will be the reserve of the London elite. What a shame.
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't that expensive. It's £26k, which is slap bang in the middle of its peers.
@TiJayFLY
@TiJayFLY 4 жыл бұрын
I drove the E, I liked it, but: It’s a very different market to the original Civic, which was an affordable car for all. Perhaps when small EVs are a similar cost to their petrol counterparts, we will get a “city EV for all”.
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow yep - but of course, its peers are also fairly substantially overpriced! EV is still an expensive indulgence for most........ And as your old mukker Kryters demonstrated recently, it's still about the same total cost of ownership over the life of the car comparing EV to ICE....... So, unless you actively WANT to go electric there is still no incentive to buy an EV........
@mattp4806
@mattp4806 4 жыл бұрын
CarPervert The average working man’s ticket into a new car is normally via PCH. This may sound like a generalisation but I can only speak for myself and my friends in the £20k-£30k per annum income club. For a 36 month personal contract hire on this car, 6 months down, 8000 miles per annum it’s coming out at nearly £450 per month inc vat (Porsche money). Sadly due to the uncertainty over residual values, EV’s tend to be out of reach for most. I really hope this changes as time goes on. The only reasonably priced EV via PCH is the Hyundai IONIQ and despite being a perfectly respectable car, that just doesn’t float my boat. I’m really motivated to switch to an EV but for my £300 per month budget I want to feel the bang for my buck so right now I’m afraid I’ll be going for the Golf GTI performance pack and will have to review the EV option in another 3 years. For info, I’m about to hand in my Volvo S90 T5 inscription plus so I’m very diverse when it comes to car choice for my £300 budget! Really love your Channel by the way! Keep up the great work.
@TiJayFLY
@TiJayFLY 4 жыл бұрын
Matt P I actually did the sums on these and came out at a TCO of £450/mo inc insurance and servicing with no deposit for the base model. I think the E Advance was ~£500pm TCO. I agree, that’s far too high for a small hatchback - you can get some serious ICE cars for that. When these are £300-350/month TCO, people will start paying attention.
@12alocin
@12alocin 4 жыл бұрын
1520 kg and 775kg, tell me again, which is the most modern and enviromental?
@steveteale291
@steveteale291 4 жыл бұрын
Depends how you source your fuel
@davidhall7744
@davidhall7744 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a pretty cool double garage Jonny 👍 I remember learning to drive in my mum’s 1976 Civic - great nostalgic memories flooding back 😀
@themrmarkprior
@themrmarkprior 4 жыл бұрын
Its not a car for me personally but i absolutely love it and adore that Honda have made it. 100% that other manufacturers are going to closely monitor Honda-E's sales to see if an interesting yet short range EV sells well, so that they can copy it. I really REALLY hope it sells well.
@Ro32da72
@Ro32da72 3 жыл бұрын
Jonny you had hooked with at the thumbnail, and on the like button @ 0.04s. edit - having watched it all, as expected; entertaining, factual, interesting, professional.
@HansMilling
@HansMilling 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Honda Accord for a few years, the suspension and traction was awesome, second best car I ever had. You should enable live comments for your premiere videos.
@ufx808
@ufx808 4 жыл бұрын
Saw a blue E behind me in Salisbury today. Very eye catching. It wasn't there for long, parted ways at a junction in the town centre. Great video, as always, Jonny, thank you.
@simonhaycocks
@simonhaycocks 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in '71 and do remember my primary school teacher buying one of these civics brand new! Even then i was a petrolhead so can remember stuff like this. The other teacher had a RWD toyota corolla in red which was so cool to me back then, even cooler would be a primary school teacher having one now!
@Jaroneko
@Jaroneko 4 жыл бұрын
Having just watched Henry's review of the e yesterday, I love how you had the Pacman Arcade in the Civic to contrast his SNES in the e.
@rubyquince6471
@rubyquince6471 4 жыл бұрын
i care little about cars and car reviews, but you're a pleasure to watch. And I think I've fallen in love with this, despite the shortcomings. The heart wants what it wants, right?
@Android-vk8yh
@Android-vk8yh 4 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant Johnny you're definitely my number one go to in the UK tubing.I was a bit down this morning looking for work and then I saw your video and it puts a big yellow Honda pacman smile on my face😍 the thing is about the old Civic it was such an advancement on engine design and that engine will probably go on for longer than we are around, the fact that it conquered America was amazing I actually saw an 80s civic I swear on an episode of Cheers at the Beginning Norman pulls up in one, he then swaps parking tickets with Cliffs postal van 😂😂 the new Honda e is not only probably the most characterful electric vehicle Honda probably developed this a little bit too early and probably had a little bit of a delay putting it to Market similar to the NSX which is probably why the battery range is also not as good as it could be. But with every Honda they listen to their customers they listen to the engineers and they're extremely good at Development so as you said I reckon there be a some sort of Sport version or longer range version developed in the next few years. You mentioned there be any type R version as a type of and I'm not sure about this Johnny I own a Type-R and if someone can go out and buy an electric one it's going to sort of put us iVTec owners to shame especially when they beat us off the lights, it won't sound as good but they will have the bragging rights especially when they will Spinning Around the lamp post 😂😂😂 the funny thing is even with bad snopes they'll have to admit that the Honda having heritage with this car looking like the original car and still being Japanese makes it a prestige electric vehicle as far as I'm concerned. Does anyone else know that the original golf probably copied the shape of the Civic as well as it came out before it. I don't think the golf or the Mini have the same retro rare impact, has there so many of them on the road and their does big fat copies of The Originals really. I think you need to get the Honda e on a B road next, and can we please have the next episode of your Honda S600 please👍👍👍
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you v much - glad you enjoyed the vid and cheered you up. Packman rules!
@robchisholm72
@robchisholm72 4 жыл бұрын
Love that Mk1 Civic, remember driving it a couple of years ago at a Silverstone event. It's lovely, the smell, the feel everything about it is a classic. Oh Johnny, did you like the pizza??
@jo05dk
@jo05dk 4 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to imagine how well the early prototype, the two door with the big wheels, would sell if on the market. It's such a cool little car to look at. The real successor to the Civic mk1. I LOVED seeing a yellow mk1 again. The first car i owned back in the day was a yellow mk1 Civic. I loved that car to pieces, and drove the wheels off it. Man i had some fun times in that little thing
@johnpardo4695
@johnpardo4695 4 жыл бұрын
My dads friend had a metallic brown series 1 Civic like that, we all loved it.
@Elektoos
@Elektoos 4 жыл бұрын
Drove it a couple of weeks ago. It is absolutely marvelous. If you are in to small cars, this is it.
@davidhall7744
@davidhall7744 3 жыл бұрын
I learned to drive in my mum’s 1976 light blue metallic Civic and the Honda E reminded me of it as soon I first saw videos of the concept car, particularly the round highlights plus the sweeping wood (veneer) arch of the dashboard 😍
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 3 жыл бұрын
That Honda E is just brilliantly designed. 👍
@petere8129
@petere8129 4 жыл бұрын
As ever a really great review part two. I’m sold on it and I’m already thinking how could I accommodate the mileage issue when or if I ever get back to commuting. I like the effort Honda have put into this, putting batteries in an already popular car and not changing the design is a bit of a copout especially when they chuck in a vastly higher price. Keep up the good work Jonny, really great reviews you’re putting out there
@mmatiasautio
@mmatiasautio 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the constant battles about which digital camera has the best specs vs cost. Specs are not everything - who would ever buy older cars if specs were everything that mattered? The soul and the feel is where it's at. Thanks for the video, enjoyed it.
@Porco1984
@Porco1984 4 жыл бұрын
Great content :D My parents replaced their Mini with a brand new little red Civic back in the 70s, they always talked fondly about that little car :)
@michaelclark3192
@michaelclark3192 4 жыл бұрын
Honda's have always been understated with their specifications, they don't even quote power figures for their motorcycles but they have won my heart with their characterful futuristic stylish design and innovation as well as their great smooth quick feeling engines. I'm sure the Honda E will be all of that and if I have the chance I'd love to own one.
@trevorwhite915
@trevorwhite915 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual love both Honda’s long been a fan in a way I wish I still had my N360!
@MrTrull1
@MrTrull1 4 жыл бұрын
Aw... our next door neighbour had a Civic back in the 70s & so I’ve always had a soft spot for them.
@virgilrytaar9083
@virgilrytaar9083 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that I going to say this; I want one! As soon as you suggested Type R, i shouted yes. The moment its announced, I'm in
@ashterfadgadget817
@ashterfadgadget817 3 жыл бұрын
My mum has got herself a Honda E .. bloody marvellous little car!
@peter.russell
@peter.russell 4 жыл бұрын
As always, a different viewpoint and very, very interesting. Today Jonny, I have awarded you a .......... 🦔 for your fine work 🙂
@brianoreilly8000
@brianoreilly8000 3 жыл бұрын
I owned the Honda Civiv - MLA 993P a long long time ago Nice to see it is still running
@micheltebraake7915
@micheltebraake7915 4 жыл бұрын
Two fantastic cars, well done Jonny!
@kennethroberts3953
@kennethroberts3953 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and both very cool cars both look fun to drive and nice touch with the Pac-Man what a classic. 👍🏻
@jamesgibb9737
@jamesgibb9737 4 жыл бұрын
Once again a great review. Despite its apparently compromised range it's a thing of beauty. The front view reminds me of Zagato Fulvia.
@frcgfd107
@frcgfd107 3 жыл бұрын
I think the E will be a game changer in ways we may not appreciate yer, don’t ask me how, I just have that feeling and I got it from Jonny as well!
@kaisersean2981
@kaisersean2981 4 жыл бұрын
Great video...Mum's first car in the early 80's was a little white Hondamatic Civic, this video brought back memories of me and my 2 siblings riding around in the back. I love the new E too, its an interesting and stylish car where most cars pretty much look the same these days. But I'd have to Civic given the choice!
@garrynorth6269
@garrynorth6269 4 жыл бұрын
Another awesome vid Jonny thank you.
@Saint_S1
@Saint_S1 2 жыл бұрын
Jonny, can I just say that not only did I enjoy this review (my Mum had a series One Civic) but I also appreciated you matching your watch strap to the cars being reviewed and also ensuring you had a yellow flash on your t-shirt to compete the look! 😄
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for noticing Simon!
@janrupertalfeche8959
@janrupertalfeche8959 4 жыл бұрын
The 70s-retro-look on the driving footage of the 1970s Civic was a nice touch! 👌🏻
@markgaudie80
@markgaudie80 3 жыл бұрын
Love the old Gen 1 Civic and the Gen 2 come to think of it. I was so close to buying a Gen 2 Civic last year. I spotted it for sale on Facebook marketplace in Stoke. The young guy had it up for £900. I was hoping it would be less rusty than it actually was. When I actually got to have a closer look around the car it was like it had been left at the bottom of the ocean for 12 months. I was really gutted as I wanted to clean the car up and keep it as a little run around classic for my local classic car meets at The Scotch Piper pub. Oldest pud in the North West I’ll have you know. Great vid this one Jonny. Right up my street. 👍
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