The best 360 cameras for real estate photos and virtual tours - comparison, software, techniques

[@360vroomers]

Here is the comparison of the 360 cameras in this video, plus other info goo.gl/QLnTtY TABLE of CONTENTS 00:20 Introduction 01:19 Why 360 photos? 03:24 Comparison of 360 cameras 03:50 theVRKit 05:45 Ricoh Theta SC, S, V 07:22 Yi 360 VR 08:44 Xiaomi Mijia Mi Sphere 10:17 GoPro panoramic heads 11:58 Difference between Panohero H5B and Pano5+1 mk II 12:04 Pano5+1 mk II 12:59 Panohero H5B 14:10 Panono 18:52 DSLR + panoramic head 20:39 Tom Shot 360 21:10 3D 360 cameras 21:20 Insta360 Pro 22:30 Kandao Obsidian R 24:30 Comparison of 360 cameras 25:00 Software 27:12 Technique: how to disappear from a 360 photo even if there's nowhere to hide

[@360vroomers]

360 photos offer a great opportunity, especially for real estate. In this video, i compare different types of 360 cameras, and their advantages. I also talk about some useful software for real estate photos. I also show a technique for hiding from a 360 photo even when there seems to be nowhere to hide

[@rictan]

Great video, Mic. The content is terrific, as always. The lighting is beautiful and your delivery is more polished than ever. Cheers, Ric

[@360vroomers]

Thank you very much Ric! I will do my best to keep improving. best regards, Mic

[@rictan]

It's great to see you smiling more. It really adds to the overall result too! :)

[@360vroomers]

Thanks buddy! I appreciate it! :D Best regards, Mic

[@samirsmudge]

Great and informative video Thank you!

[@360vroomers]

Thanks Samir! If you'd like to see an updated comparison, check out this playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5TVpnSahJaqhJI

[@jcasman]

Really appreciate this kind of balanced overview, it saves a lot of time and effort in understanding the options out there. I guess you have to update this every couple of months with new product information. Thanks for pointing out that 360° video is appealing, but real money is being made now with static images. It's best to focus on what works.

[@360vroomers]

Thank you very much Jesse. Yes that's a good point - I will definitely update this from time to time. Best regards, Mic

[@tomaszdorawa7257]

Hi, Can I ask what exact model of the monopod and extention are you using for the theta review? 6:14 ? Thank you

[@360vroomers]

Hi Tomasz. This was the stand I used in that shot: amzn.to/2DMzW4i Thank you very much! Best regards, Mic

[@tomaszdorawa7257]

thank you :)

[@xpresee2704]

Great videos as always. Straight to the information without clowning around.

[@360vroomers]

XPresee thank you very much! I appreciate the specific feedback. I will continue to do my best! Best regards, mic

[@josephbarberphotography]

Always really thorough! Thanks for the app recommendations too!

[@360vroomers]

Joseph Barber Photography thank you very much Joseph! Best regards, mic

[@BenClaremont]

Nice work as always buddy and thanks for the shoutout!

[@LPH2004]

Hello. Very helpful video thanks. Question. is there a similar Cupix application offline version?

[@360vroomers]

Hi Luis. If you mean software that can automatically construct a virtual tour like Cupix, no, unfortunately. If you mean virtual tour software generally, yes - see for example krpano.

[@thotbuilds1466]

Thanks for the review. All links in the link.

[@thotbuilds1466]

360Rumors.com, Sadly the theVRkit isn't available on amazon and their website doesnt state my country under shipping......if possible please do a review or a show down of 360 cams under $100. Cheers....

[@robertalexander2478]

@@360vroomers can you add hotspots with this system? I noticed there wasn't any in the sample videos from the link you provided

[@santhoshmail86]

again super cool video Mic...Great

[@360vroomers]

Thank you very much Santhosh! Much appreciated! Best regards, Mic

[@n0m1s26]

Great job! Thank you soo much!

[@360vroomers]

Thank you very much Simon! To connect with other 360 shooters who are interested in real estate, i hope you will join facebook.com/groups/virtualtournetwork :D Best regards, Mic

[@leanegarden6997]

Thank you for this great detailed video. I've watched many good videos which people show how great this camera or another, but you introduced a few other models (not only the popular ones) and explained the various differences. One question comes to mind is: Can the Yi 360 App be downloaded and used to erase unwanted part from a different 360 camera or only can be used with the Yi 360 camera? Just in case you have an idea. Thanks again and continue the great video work!

[@360vroomers]

Thanks Leane! The Yi 360 app can't work with other cameras, but for Ricoh Theta, there is an app that can also erase people called Vanish360. I think there is also a plugin for Ricoh Theta V and Z1 that can do it.

[@360id]

Great videos as always Mr. Mic, and if I may know, what kind of tripod is that [06:05]? Same as attached to Insta360 Pro and Kandao Obsidian R behind you? is there a link to that tripod ..? Thanks, (MatiKiri)

[@360vroomers]

360 id hi Matikiri sorry for the delayed reply. The light stand i used is this one: amzn.to/2hrkX9N Best regards, Mic

[@360id]

It's all right 360Rumors.com / Mr. Mic, no need to worry (I'm still your dark knight from Gotham City..😂). Thank you for having time to answer it.. 😉

[@evan2156]

Thank you for putting this up. Fabulous video. Great information and very detailed and perfectly timed for my needs. Keep up the great work I subscribed! Evan

[@360vroomers]

evan2156 thank you very much Evan! To meet other real estate shooters pls join facebook.com/groups/virtualnetwork 😀

[@robertalexander2478]

Can you mount thevr kit stand on a tripod?

[@360vroomers]

Yes you can! 😀

[@robertalexander2478]

@@360vroomers awesome! Hey, how did you fix the problems you has with the xphase with the car interior?

[@kevinbailey1961]

At 28.36 you mention identical batch stitching for mi sphere. How is this done please.

[@KathrynHobkirk-g4e]

Thank you so much for this amazing video! I have a quick question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). Could you explain how to move them to Binance?

[@michaelhatfield1698]

Does the Kandao offer in-camera stitching or only through its software?

[@360vroomers]

Hi Michael. Kandao stitches only via desktop. No in-camera stitching. No reviewing of shots either. Best regards, Mic

[@mohamadcheaitani9513]

nice. appreciating.

[@360vroomers]

Thanks Mohamad! Please be sure to check out the new tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpnRiWWwjbmqirs Best regards, mic

[@MarcoRomero_net]

Great review, thank you very much!

[@360vroomers]

Thank you very much Marco!

[@amanieux]

thank for the video but did you shoot on a panasonic camera in autofocus (distracting pulsating background)

[@360vroomers]

yes i used an fz1000. i didnt know about that issue beforehand

[@Invisible1900]

Hello, in your opinion which is the better camera? The insta pro 360 or the kandao obsidian? I would like your opinion because I am looking to buy one of those. Thanks in advance!

[@360vroomers]

Jesus Quezada i think kandao has better image quality while insta360 pro is much easier to use but I need to process my kandao videos and photos to confirm whether kandao really does have better image quality.

[@amanieux]

is there no software that let you shoot around hands free in burst mode with a regular camera (no mems sensors) and regular lens (no fisheye) and if you provide enough snapshots with enough overlay it can rebuild the 360 photo ? i remener the microsoft software that took photos even from different camera and build a textured 3d model of the area ( if they can rebuild a 3d model i guess we can rebuild a more simple 360 texture on a sphere)

[@360vroomers]

Yes Google camera app can do that. Also panorama 360 can do it too

[@amanieux]

@@360vroomers google camera app can only run on smartphone as it uses the mems sensor for positioning the shots during the acquisition process i was more thinking of the panorama feature(i believe it is a feature in photoshop ) that just takes a bunch of photos from a regular camera (without any mems sensor data in the photos exif data) in random order and automatically stitches a cylindrical panorama, so i guess it must be doable for a spherical 360 photo.if such a software exist then using a entry level $500 apsc camera will give you much better quality than any 360 camera without adding too much time to the acquisition process (close to the time of a pano head process but without having to buy the expensive pano head or expensive fisheye lenses) if you wiggle enough by a few inches on the sides it may even have enough data for stereo 360 photo reconstruction, can the cupix software you mentioned do that ? have you tried MS ICE ? www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/computational-photography-applications/image-composite-editor/

[@360vroomers]

@@amanieux you can use panorama studio 3 pro to assemble photos in random order into a 360 photo, but it cannot be handheld. It must be shot from nodal point

[@CalWhiteMusic]

Hi Mic, thanks so much for all of your great work! Do you know if the keepeyeonball platform can stitch pano 5+1 images? I can see that they can do the panohero ones. I have purchased a Go Pro 5 with the Pano 5 +1 based on a lot of research which I plan to use to shoot raw. I have used a Theta SC and was quite disappointed with the results, ideally I would like to get a Panono, but we all have to start somewhere. Thanks again for all of your hardwork it is so appreciated!!

[@360vroomers]

Thanks Chris! pano5+1 is great! i asked keepeyeonball to create a template for pano5+1 too but i don't know if keepeyeonball already supports it. you might want to try contacting them...

[@CalWhiteMusic]

Thanks Mic, I will do just that, keep up the good work :)

[@360vroomers]

Thanks buddy! 😀

[@mikecatino859]

Have you done a video on the batch stitching feature of the Insta360 Pro to remove yourself from picture?

[@360vroomers]

Hi Mike. I don't have a tutorial for that but I can work on one. Best regards, Mic

[@pttravis108]

You are amazing!

[@360vroomers]

interested person Thank you very much! Glad you found the video helpful!

[@elfridawestgate]

I really appreciate your efforts! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (air carpet target dish off jeans toilet sweet piano spoil fruit essay). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@360digitalprojects]

Thank you very Much for this super complete video.... as usual. I just want to mention the Excellent Krpano software, it need some xml skills but I think is the better. for. the stiching, the best tool of the market is the Mistika VR even if it's expensive

[@360vroomers]

Thank you very much! Yes Krpano is an excellent software! Thank you very much for pointing it out. Best regards, Mic

[@justwandermaya]

Curious - In your workflow are you on a Desktop, Laptop or Phone app what % of the time? Being on the go, looking for a laptop capable of speeding up stitching workflow so multiple 360s can be stitched and not take so long. Thanks for recommendations.

[@360vroomers]

JustWander Maya hi Maya. I use the xiaomi and its pc app, which allows batch stitching. For fewer shots i use its app which can stitch while i am on the road. 😀

[@justwandermaya]

Thanks for sharing. I have an old Macbook Pro (2014). I'm procrastinating as much as possible to upgrade 'cuz they're so expensive.

[@360vroomers]

JustWander Maya hi Maya. I totally understand. Are you open to considering a windows notebook as backup? It will cost much less than a macbook.

[@justwandermaya]

I've been a Mac person since 2007 but before that I used to have an HP, Toshiba and Dell... I guess I can be ambidexter with what type of computer I use. Would want a laptop capable of high resolution stitching (i.e. GoPro & PanoHero setup) and 4k video at the least where it doesn't lag, hangup or need constant rebooting. Just wouldn't know the specs for what I need. Others have recommended I look into the same specs as gaming systems. Whatcha think?

[@360vroomers]

JustWander Maya hi Maya. To be reasonably future proof while still having a reasonable budget, i suggest at least i5-4590, at least 8gb ram, at least gtx 1050 ti 4gb, and a large hdd. You can get this for $400 partly used. 360rumors.com/2017/03/400-vr-capable-oculus-ready-pc-nvidia-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-card.html I hope that helps.

[@ChristiaanRoest79]

Mic, whats the workflow if i want to make a virtual tour with cupix by using 360 photo's made with the vrkit and my Samsung s8? Do i first have to make individual 360 photo's before uploading them to cupix? Does the vrkit app automatically make the 360 photo's and store it on my phone or are the photo's only stored online?

[@360vroomers]

Hi Chris! For thevrkit, it will stitch the photos automatically within the app. Then you upload the stitched photos to Cupix. But tbh, you will get better image quality from a Samsung Gear 360 which is around the same price: amzn.to/2sRrMTV or even the 2017 gear 360, which is also very inexpensive amzn.to/2JDSJEN. Both work with Street View, so they can take 360 photos with almost any phone as long as you have the street view app.

[@ChristiaanRoest79]

360Rumors.com ok, in that case i can better use my gopro fusion. I bought thevrkit because of the high resolution :( I thought the quality in this setting is better than from regular 360 cams. I dont like to put the gopro fusion on the manfrotto selfystick and monopod (tripod) that Ben uses because its heavy and chances are it will fall especially outside.

[@360vroomers]

Chris71319 i think Ben's mini tripod is too small. I would instead suggest a lightstand or maybe manfrotto nanopole 360rumors.com/2016/08/review-manfrotto-nanopole-excellen.html But yes fusion is one of the best for 360 photos for consumer 360 cameras. Best regards, Mic

[@ChristiaanRoest79]

360Rumors.com thanks Mic.

[@justsuperjl]

Wow lots of cameras! Have you tried the Z CAM S1?

[@360vroomers]

Thanks JL! :D I actually have several other cameras, but the Z Cam S1 is not one of them, although I wish I could buy one at a discount. :) Maybe in the future, who knows. I do have my eye on the Z Cam 3D180 :D Best regards, Mic

[@ChristiaanRoest79]

Mic, I bought the VRkit to make 360 pics with my smartphones. Looks very nice. With a very good smartphone camera i expect good results 🙏 Thanks for the advice.

[@robertalexander2478]

How did it work for you? Which smartphone did you use?

[@EduardoVega]

Hi ! which tool did you use to combine the pics and mask you out of the pic ? you mentioned two one Vanish360 and Yi VR is there any other software that work as well (Samsung Gear 360/LG 360/GoPro Fusion/InstaONE) ?

[@360vroomers]

Hi Eduardo! You can use any photo editor that can use layers, such as Photoshop or Affinity. In photoshop, you would use a layer mask. Use black to "erase" a layer, white to "paint" a layer. And you can go back and forth as needed. You can also use gray for a translucent effect e.g. as a ghost, if you want :) . Best regards, Mic

[@EduardoVega]

thanks for the super promptly response ! love your reviews & tutorials ! greetings from Costa Rica

[@360vroomers]

Thank you my friend! Best wishes and more power to you! Best regards, Mic

[@360projets8]

Hey thanx for all ur videos, i bought the xiaomi 360 following ur advice 2 monthes ago and im very happy with it, i was wondering if u think the yi will be really better justifying to pay more or not. I could need a second 360 cam maybe with hdr to avoid the white burn when u have windows in the shots so i wouldnt have to low the brightness. Or maybe i should take two different settings and combine them myself?

[@360vroomers]

360 Projets salut! For photos, xiaomi is better than yi. Yes, to avoid blown highlights, use different exposures to create hdr effect. In the future, hdr will be built into the app. 😀

[@360projets8]

hi salut Mic "merci" (thx!) for ur reply. Do u mean that xiaomi is planning an update of their app with hdr in it? If so, do u know when (its impressive how they improved the app in the last monthes fixing some issues u were talkin about in ur previous vids)? Do u know what simple app i could use meanwhile to combine different exposures? if i recall, u said that the first samsung gear hdr effect wasnt really effective, does the 2017 version of the gear works better? some french 360 director said to me that the insta360 pro is the best cam ever, very impressive, well the cost is too but not that much compared to first pro cam generation, do u think the same? And to end this comment, i will add that i use kolor panotour pro for real estate 360 tour and it works fine for me. Keep up the good work! Loic

[@360vroomers]

Hi 360 Projets. Yes Mi Sphere app will be updated to add HDR. It seems to be soon, although I don't have an exact date. There are many software for combining exposures into an HDR image. It can be done in Lightroom or Photoshop for example. Yes you're right about Gear 360. The original one had fake HDR. The 2017 has true multi-shot HDR. I love the Insta360 Pro. Here is my review: 360rumors.com/2017/07/best-worlds-insta360-pro-hands-real-world-review-part-1-sample-photos-videos.html Thanks for suggesting Panotour Pro! Best regards, Mic

[@360projets8]

Hi Mic, indeed bracketting just arrived on the xiaomi 360 with the new update. well i thought it would combine them but no, so im using fdrtools. I tried photoshop elements 7 with the photomerge tool but its adding some white line in the render all over the pic so its ruining the 360° shot, not sure why. Thanx again, best regards. Loic

[@richardlawson8599]

I'd like to try 360 video and pictures for real estate without spending more than $400 for the camera. I also plan to use cupix and adobe lightroom for editing. At that price point it seems there is seems to be a toss up between the insta 360 one or the Ricoh Theta V which would you recommend?

[@360vroomers]

Richard Lawson hi Richard! For that price i would recommend xiaomi. Many people have used it for real estate and have been pleased. 360rumors.com/2018/02/ultimate-xiaomi-mijia-mi-sphere-360-camera-faq-wiki-and-resource-page.html My second choice would be insta360 for the dng stitching convenience. Ricoh theta is good if you want to do the least amount of work, though its photos have noticeably less detail than xiaomi or insta360. Best regards, Mic

[@EduardoVega]

Hi Michael quick question, does the Camera have 2 SD cards ? why ? how are they used ? will be better to use the SD vs a SDD Hard Drive ? thx

[@360vroomers]

Eduardo Vega hi Ed. Which camers do you mean? If insta360 pro, it has only one SD card. I recommend SSD over SD. Fewer problems and it's faster. I recommend sandisk extreme 500 ssd. 360rumors.com/2017/07/faster-cheaper-sandisk-extreme-500-portable-ssd-review.html

[@nemesysmorpheus175]

Another great and informative video, thanks! I'm in to real estate and large stores 360 photography. I would like to step up my game and get a more professional camera. Had dealt with the Samsungs, Xiaomi, Ricohs ect. I definitely need more detail. Not interested in video, just photos, high megapixel/detail/sharp photos, like the samples that I've seen from Panono. Not having infinite money for the insta pro, or the Kandao, the Panono even at 1500 euros looks appealing. Would u recommend it, even with its peculiar workflow? Recently, I've read that the company filled for bankruptcy, they said ofc that support will continue, but I cannot trust fully such a statement and I don't want to waste my money. Lots of complaints from users about their servers being slow or with errors, during up/downloading. Finally, I've heard that you cannot batch upload. I really cannot decide. From your experience, would Panono be a good option, since u have this camera as well? In a few lines, how is it? Is it worth is in that price range? Should I wait for something else? Thanks in advance.

[@360vroomers]

NEMESYS MORPHEUS hi Nemesys! Thanks for watching my video! Re Panono, I'm happy with the workflow. The biggest drawback for me is the minimum stitching distance of around 4 feet all around the cam. Re bankruptcy, I've interviewed the new owners and am confident that they've turned the company around. Also, it is possible to stitch offline with Panorama Studio 3 Pro. If you are still wary, you can use Panohero H5B or wait for NCTech Iris Pro. I dont know yet how Iris Pro compares to Panono. Btw pls join facebook.com/groups/virtualtournetwork Best regards, Mic

[@nemesysmorpheus175]

Thank you for your prompt reply and for ease my concerns, maybe I'll go with the Panono after all, since my minimum stitching distance is far greater than 4 feet :) P.S. I just send a request for your page! Many thanks again.

[@360vroomers]

NEMESYS MORPHEUS thank you very much! I will look out for your request!

[@coincarver]

Where are the links? You say there is a link to the Rotator Kit for prices. All I see is timeline links.

[@360vroomers]

Hi Mike there were so many links that i just created a page for it. check out this page which has all the links goo.gl/QLnTtY best regards, Mic

[@livingonguam8322]

Salamat!

[@360vroomers]

Hi kabayan! And thanks! :D

[@jankarlsson8341]

Thanks for the tip of Cupix.com. Do you know if you can do virtual tours of buildings/houses with multiple floors in that software?

[@360vroomers]

yes you can! :D

[@wonkee184]

Wow my head is spinning in all directions after that, what an excellent vid Mic thanks 🙏🏼 , I think I’ll have to re-watch to take all in, few tours under my belt now with mi sphere but to up my game what would you suggest, from one of your previous vids checked out cupix & it excellent 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@360vroomers]

Won Kee thank you very much WK! To be honest i could have made this much longer. There's so much material that i had to just discuss very quickly :) i'm glad you found it helpful and please share with interested friends especially those in real estate! Best regards, Mic

[@not_name7421]

I would love to get the Xiaomi Mijia Mi Sphere as I'm proficient in PS and prefer RAW processing. But my Samsung Galaxy Prime is not on the approved phone list. A better (used) Samsung will add $150-200 (S7, S8, etc.) to the price of the Xiaomi so I'll prob get the Ricoh Theta V.

[@mhsvz6735]

Wow!

[@360vroomers]

mhs vz thanks!