The Best (and cheapest) 35mm Film Stock | Kodak Vision 3

[@cinewales]

Great video , I bulk roll 500t I love it,I c41 process too. It’s so versatile, I’ve even found a way to remove the remjet before shooting if I want 800t halation at night.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Thank you! 500T is such a great film stock!

[@rayce]

Cross processing in C41 just had more contract. Honestly perfect especially if you want to use it for darkroom prints later on. Going to make this my go to process pretty soon.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Hmmm I wonder what RA-4 prints would look like with the film processed in ECN-3. I saw an article that showed the same shots on Vision 3 250D but one was developed in ECN-2 and the other in C-41 and there were a lot more color shifts and contrast. Here’s a link to the article. www.35mmc.com/17/08/2023/my-first-time-using-kodak-motion-picture-film-enc-2-vs-c41/

[@lolkthnxbai]

Because it needs to be fixed in post, outside of photography I really like film editing and do a bit of color correcting in DaVinci Resolve, it reminds me a bit of dealing with sony log3. I think you can fix this in a program like rawtherapee if you adjust the L*A*B values and negative import settings and it would look amazing.

[@KrisHomemadeBaking]

I like using the Kodak vision 3 motion picture films for sure. My favorite is the 200T, even though the T suggests that it's more suitable indoors, that tungsten color looks really nice outdoors especially urban sceneries during daytime

[@michaelbennettphoto]

I have yet to try 200T, but 500T preformed great for me shooting with it outside.

[@ferdamusonthebeatz7891]

Great video ! Thanks for the recommendation! Gotta finish my roll soon. So far I shot 50d and 250d…definitely need to try out 200t as well

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Yo for sure! I would love to try out more of Kodaks Tungsten balanced cinema film!

[@johnger850305]

bro you really convinced me, some of the best 500T examples I've seen, just went to the local camera store and picked up two rolls, $7 each, quite a bargain.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Thank you for the kind words dude!! $7 is a crazy price!!

[@Anthony-fz9ye]

Photos look really great. I might give it a go soon, I have some rolls in my fridge.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Thank you! You definitely should. They’re amazing film stocks.

[@franz_bergmueller]

Great video and great photos!

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Thank you!

[@StevesFilmThoughts]

Great looking images. I have several test rolls of vision 3 50D, 250D, 200T, and 500T in a freezer awaiting development so i can judge which stock i like best to buy a 400' roll and bulk load my own. Im curious did you use an 85B filter on the 500T photos when shooting in daylight? Are you scanning your own negatives or are these coming from your lab? Im surprised the 500T daylight shots arnt cooler (warmed up in post?). I'd prefer the 500 iso but was thinking i would likely end up using 250D for the color balance without using a filter but seeing your images has me reconsidering.

[@Crsmo322]

Great comment. I had the same questions and thoughts while watching the video.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Hey Steve! I didn’t have any correction filters on the lens while shooting. I scanned all of the images at home on my digital camera and then converted them in Lightroom using negative lab pro. I also expected the 500T to have a strong blue cast when shooting it during the day, but negative lab pro did a really good job at correcting any casts. I have a dedicated video coming out soon about how I use negative lab pro to convert my film and I’ll be sure to include some images shot on 500T in that video. Hope this comments helps! I would definitely recommend shooting the 500T, it’s an absolutely amazing film stock and by my favorite color film I’ve ever used.

[@framesbyls]

@@michaelbennettphoto Hey Michael I‘ve just saw your video and was amazed by the shots you have taken. Would love to know when you are planning to drop the tutorial on how you process your negatives in NLP especially those of Vision 500T👀

[@ShazaTarig-p6w]

When shooting in studio - do you have any recommendations on lighting set-ups to really get a soft diffused and well-lit image?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Oh it would be really hard to explain over a comment. I’d recommend checking out some videos on KZbin about studio lighting.

[@30DegreesBank]

So you are saying that those gorgeous colors under the bridge weren't at all made with 85B Filter? 500T giving such vibrant colors in daylight? I might try it then, I was only getting 250 D until now, because I was scared of the Tungsten balance. Any recommendations on how to avoid the blue ast or it can be easily balanced in Post?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

No correction filter was used for the 500T. I use negative lab pro to convert the film and it seemed to automatically correct for the blue cast

[@gottanikoncamera]

Beautiful shots. It’s possible the scan tech may have corrected for some of 500T’s inherent coolness? Have a link to the eBay store you used?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Thank you! I scanned and converted the images at home using Lightroom and Negative Lab Pro. Here’s the link to the eBay store. www.ebay.com/itm/125915649728?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=xicmdsxsqcg&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=SM4R7RJfSn6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[@felixsturmair4854]

Did you try using an 85B filter on the Tungsten balanced film as well?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

No, I didn’t have a filter on the lens.

[@Thejunoroux]

Great pictures! (Had to slow you down to 0.75x though when you get excited 😝) keep up the good work!

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Hahaha thank you!!

[@thestupidwolf7438]

Generally what you save in initial cost, you spend it in developing, because of the ecn-2 at the end i spend exactly the same as any other color film but yeah 500t is a great film, even in daylight

[@michaelbennettphoto]

The lab I go to charges me the exact same for ECN-2 and C-41 processing so shooting Vision 3 is actually a bit cheaper than a lot of other film stocks on the market.

[@khanscombe619]

Awesome. So u didn’t need or use an 85B daylight filter outside or can u correct in post?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Negative lab pro seemed to automatically color correct for me.

[@MrFreakwent]

Remjet isn't for static I believe, but rather it's carbon that protects the film when spooled in motion picture cameras.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

I’ve read it’s to pretext the film from static electricity charges that build up while the film is moving through the cameras and reels as high speeds.

[@tommymonolo]

Cool video man…. It’s the same price in England even cheaper possibly! Is it developed E6 ? Can it be cross processed at C-41 ? I guess but not sure of results ? Keep on shooting on ! Tommy

[@michaelbennettphoto]

The native chemical process is ECN-2. Developing in C-41 is technically cross processing but it can be done! The results are a little different and personally I think developing with the native ECN-2 gets better results. I’m sure it would look wild developing in E6!

[@malypavel25]

Vision 3 is not cheap once you factor in the factor in the price of developing. Colorpus and Gold are certainly cheaper at the end of the day. That said, both 250D and 500T are both amazing films. You can easily use them in a half frame camera while retaining great definition and the colours can be stunning. They are also much easier to convert than C41 films.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Gold is definitely a bit cheaper, but shooting 500T is about the same cost as shooting Colorplus. As I mentioned in the video, the development cost is the exact same for C-41 and ECN-2 so there isn’t a difference for me personally.

[@matthewmichael2850]

ECN2 chemistry is cheap and removing remjet is easy

[@Where_Have_All_My_Files_Gone]

Did you use a warming filter in daylight or did nothing and just edited in post?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

I didn't use any filters when shooting the 500T. When I converted the images using Negative Lab Pro, the software seems to automatically correct for any color cast.

[@Where_Have_All_My_Files_Gone]

@@michaelbennettphoto Thanks.

[@WillJauregui]

what lab do you send it to that charges the same for ECN-2 as C-41? every place ive seen charges more for ECN-2

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Studio V in Oklahoma City.

[@moneyshotphoto]

I buy 300 foot rolls for about $150 from production companies. That works out to around $3 a roll

[@michaelbennettphoto]

That’s a crazy deal!!

[@KittenoftheBroccoli]

I get my 100-footers for $110... Where are you getting yours?

[@KenPepper]

GREAT SHOTS!!what flash did you use on the shoot with the talent on the bed?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Thank you!! It’s the Sunpak AP-52. I also slid a pink gel in front of the flash to add a bit of color. It’s pretty subtle, but it adds just enough.

[@KenPepper]

Thanks to you man. I’ll talk a look a it. The first images it’s so subtle the flash that looks like normal. Great work.

[@Door_dash11]

I like the 250D

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Same here! It’s an amazing film stock!

[@cas4392]

What lab do you use?

[@michaelbennettphoto]

It’s called Studio V Lab in OKC

[@chris42069]

3:24 🤌

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Thank you dude! I really like that one!

[@tommymonolo]

Thanks dude …

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Of course!

[@mr.negative_film_store]

35mm 500T smokes Porta every day of the week. No need for 120.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

It’s an absolutely amazing film stock.

[@lensman5762]

Vision-3 is a motion picture film stock and is not manufactured by kodak, but by Eastman. Kodak or whatever is called these days, only manufactured films for stills photography. To get the best out of this film the ECN-2 processing is paramount and is quite expensive and not so easily available. Please do the lab a favour and tell them that your film requires ECN-2, beause if that Remjet layer is not removed, it will ruin the Lab machinery for good. One thing to note is that none of this has anything remotely resembling a motion picture movie in appearnce. The stuff you shoot is a colour negative. This colour negative will go through many stages again to turn into a colour graded positive that is either projected or digitally scanned by purpose made motion picture scanners and becomes a digital file.

[@michaelbennettphoto]

In the video I talked about how the chemical process is ECN-2 and not C-41. I also mentioned that this film can’t be sent to a normal lab unless they can develop ECN-2. My intention is not to make this film look like the cinema film after it went through the intended process. I shoot the film because I like the way it looks and the affordability of the film makes it a great option for myself and other people.

[@lensman5762]

@@michaelbennettphoto Yes you did, but recently quite a lot of videos have turned up on Y.T advocating the C41 process, because it is a lot cheaper and readily available. This process will work with Vision 3 emulsion only if the Remjet layer has been removed, which is not at all an easy task without the right chemicals ( baking soda only partially works, it needs a strong Alkali solution ). I only wanted to post a warning on behalf of the many processing Labs who may be left with damaged machines if the film does not get recognised as ECN-2. So long as these emulsions remain ' affordable ' then they should be used without too much emphasis being placed on tehir ' cinema ' credentials, but I have a funny feeling that greed will take the better of these corporations and these will soon follow in the footsteps of Portra, or other films that have more than doubled in price in the last two years or so.